Carol, Mar 15 2010, 05:53 PM
QUOTE (enemyofNWO @ Mar 15 2010, 02:01 PM)
QUOTE (Carol @ Mar 15 2010, 04:42 AM)
She publicly humiliated HD on her forum after MaryLou had reported him to the FBI for being involved with 911 and posted about it. .
Again this is sensitive info and I would appreciate folks keeping it here in this forum.
Fancy reporting HD to the FBI ?
It is just like me going to the police to complain that I am followed by the spooks .
Carol are you at liberty to tell us why HD was humiliated by Kerry ?
Cheers
I suspect because immediately after MaryLou made her post about HD, he went into a panic and started deleting the witnesses threads along with his own. You have to remember the man is brillinat with computers and because of that had full access to the forum's innards. Kerry was furious with him for what he was doing behind the scenes. It was clear he had the capacity to crash the forum.
MaryLou found out in chat that HD had been associated with the 911 attacks and is a very patriotic. She loves the US and wasn't about to stand by while she knew someone who was involved in the 911 attacks goes un-noticed by the FBI, so she outed him both to the FBI and on the forum. By the time Kerry got involved the damaged had already been done. MaryLou didn't tell any of us what she was going to do and acted on her own. HD reacted by deleting his previous text from the chat box along with his text to me. Bill and Kerry immediately banned him as a mod but the damage had already been done as he had access through some back doors left open as well.
In the beginning if anyone followed the link from a mod who was in chat on their profile page, the member had access to the mod chat. HD knew what was going on and being brilliant with computers and systems managed to delete all of his threads/posts and many of the other witnesses threads/posts as well. He also was trying to gain access and work the system through us mods/admins as he would skype us making various requests. You have to remember that we are looking at a very short period of time that all of this took place... 24-48 hours or so for the major part of this. Since HD lost access to the front door when he was demodded he asked me to delete the thread MaryLou had started and where Kerry had thrown her lob at him. All I felt comfortable doing at the time was to move it to the moderator view only section, where it remained for a few hours, until Kerry had it moved back out on the forum. HD was humiliated and wanted it out of sight. He was afraid for himself and felt Kerry was exploiting him by allowing the thread to remain where anyone could read it.
We all pretty much know that Kerry doesn't pull punches and tends to do a lot of her fighting in the public arena. She did this most recently with Bill but this time it was much more toned down. She is not afraid to take a stand and really doesn't seem to care what others think about the stand she takes, one way or the other.
HD felt he was risking a lot just by being a witness and felt they had pursued him for a long time to get their interview. He told me that he deliberately included disinformation so he could distance himself from them, if for some reason he needed to do so in the future. However, he also claimed that the interview was not accurate.. meaning it had been altered by Bill. In discussing this with Bill, Bill asserted that the written copy was given to HD for his review and input, so what HD was claiming made no sense to him.
When I chatted with HD in the chat box the night before the big blow-up, and again later the next day, it was clear to me he had no memory or our previous chat exchange. Meanwhile, the admins were trying to sort out WTF was going on and were going back into the logs reviewing everything. That is when we discovered that HD had been in there deleting his chat text and when Kerry had them pull the plug to his mod access.
What most folks don't know is that the person whose text is posted in chat can go in and delete or alter their own post but they cannot alter one of the other mods chat post. Yet, my chat text post responses to HD were missing. That's how we knew it had to be someone with a really good tech background doing the internal damage.
Due to their personal friendship Bill refused to believe HD would do such a thing and thought the volunteer staff (admin and/or mods) were infiltrated by psyops. He accused Avalon's admin who promptly up and quit. Bill refused to accept what the admins discovered and continued to believe the primary admin deleted the other witnesses threads and posts. Meanwhile, Kerry, not so easily fooled, sorted out what was going on. She put a stop to it by demodding HD (yet allowed him be moderator for his own forum, with no access to the mod chatbox) and letting MaryLou's thead stand along with her own statement.
If you look at this objectively one can only say each person acted from what they "believed" to be true and the right thing to do.
I think what was most difficult for all of us is that our own government would be involved in 911. Yet, this is the case... and it does go much deeper then this as at one level, there is an alien connection.
Next, I do accept that HD was on Mars. Some of you have yet to delve into all of the info out there regarding this but if you remember, the Philadelphia Experiment happened in the 1940s. Our government has been involved in time travel for a good 60 years. And it was at that time they opened a door to another dimension where some of the more warring type ETs slipped through. There is a whole other reality that we are only privy to through bits and pieces we see through the eyes of Hollywood.
Mars is accessed using Tesla's technology with telportation and time travel. One can walk into what looks like an elevator here on earth and the door can open into the future on Mars where the base is located. I've read various testimonies from a number of others and at least 3 others who do not know each other testimonies are consistent with one another.
In my research on alien cultures one thing is clear, there are many different alien cultures on this planet and each of them have their own agenda. The human looking off-worlders blend right in and even marry humans. (Read Mass Contact by Stefano Breccia if you want to research this more for yourself)
The way I see it is that Avalon was doomed from the onset. Folks like Anchor, Colin, MaryLou, John, Karen, myself and all of the mods put in many, many volunteer hours to try and keep it going. We loved the primary focus but did not agree with the management style which was difficult from the onset. You see, Kerry really doesn't have time to spend on a forum. She is too busy with her other activities so she tends to let others run it and will step in when she feels she has too. Bill was gone, completely absent. There was no leader, no direction so basically it developed on its own.
For myself, I honestly believe we all need to step back and get out of the blame game. Avalon did what it was meant to do... gather us together. Now it is splitting into areas of like-minded individuals. This is as it should be. Rather then having one's energy scattered it is becoming more focused. Each of us will eventually settled into whichever forum fits best for us at this time in our lives. I suspect we really don't have much time left so this is a good thing. It allows those just catching up to sort out what their priorities are and those who have already gone through the sorting process to go with the forum that holds the most interest for them.
Our primary Avalon gathering place will be closed. This site can be that type of place if folks continue to offer truth with compassion as compared to an acid rain that melts ones flesh off ones bones. I just ask each person to be kind. To please remember there is a real flesh and blood human being behind each post. Please, please be respectful and continue to build upon your positive karma in this life with the other members of the Mysts.
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Aloha, do jeh, toda, arigato, merci, grazie, salamat po, gracias, tack, sukria, danke schoen, kiitos, dank u, mahalo nui loa ~ Heaven
With deepest respect ~ Aloha & Mahalo, Carol
QUOTE (enemyofNWO @ Mar 15 2010, 02:01 PM)
QUOTE (Carol @ Mar 15 2010, 04:42 AM)
She publicly humiliated HD on her forum after MaryLou had reported him to the FBI for being involved with 911 and posted about it. .
Again this is sensitive info and I would appreciate folks keeping it here in this forum.
Fancy reporting HD to the FBI ?
It is just like me going to the police to complain that I am followed by the spooks .
Carol are you at liberty to tell us why HD was humiliated by Kerry ?
Cheers
I suspect because immediately after MaryLou made her post about HD, he went into a panic and started deleting the witnesses threads along with his own. You have to remember the man is brillinat with computers and because of that had full access to the forum's innards. Kerry was furious with him for what he was doing behind the scenes. It was clear he had the capacity to crash the forum.
MaryLou found out in chat that HD had been associated with the 911 attacks and is a very patriotic. She loves the US and wasn't about to stand by while she knew someone who was involved in the 911 attacks goes un-noticed by the FBI, so she outed him both to the FBI and on the forum. By the time Kerry got involved the damaged had already been done. MaryLou didn't tell any of us what she was going to do and acted on her own. HD reacted by deleting his previous text from the chat box along with his text to me. Bill and Kerry immediately banned him as a mod but the damage had already been done as he had access through some back doors left open as well.
In the beginning if anyone followed the link from a mod who was in chat on their profile page, the member had access to the mod chat. HD knew what was going on and being brilliant with computers and systems managed to delete all of his threads/posts and many of the other witnesses threads/posts as well. He also was trying to gain access and work the system through us mods/admins as he would skype us making various requests. You have to remember that we are looking at a very short period of time that all of this took place... 24-48 hours or so for the major part of this. Since HD lost access to the front door when he was demodded he asked me to delete the thread MaryLou had started and where Kerry had thrown her lob at him. All I felt comfortable doing at the time was to move it to the moderator view only section, where it remained for a few hours, until Kerry had it moved back out on the forum. HD was humiliated and wanted it out of sight. He was afraid for himself and felt Kerry was exploiting him by allowing the thread to remain where anyone could read it.
We all pretty much know that Kerry doesn't pull punches and tends to do a lot of her fighting in the public arena. She did this most recently with Bill but this time it was much more toned down. She is not afraid to take a stand and really doesn't seem to care what others think about the stand she takes, one way or the other.
HD felt he was risking a lot just by being a witness and felt they had pursued him for a long time to get their interview. He told me that he deliberately included disinformation so he could distance himself from them, if for some reason he needed to do so in the future. However, he also claimed that the interview was not accurate.. meaning it had been altered by Bill. In discussing this with Bill, Bill asserted that the written copy was given to HD for his review and input, so what HD was claiming made no sense to him.
When I chatted with HD in the chat box the night before the big blow-up, and again later the next day, it was clear to me he had no memory or our previous chat exchange. Meanwhile, the admins were trying to sort out WTF was going on and were going back into the logs reviewing everything. That is when we discovered that HD had been in there deleting his chat text and when Kerry had them pull the plug to his mod access.
What most folks don't know is that the person whose text is posted in chat can go in and delete or alter their own post but they cannot alter one of the other mods chat post. Yet, my chat text post responses to HD were missing. That's how we knew it had to be someone with a really good tech background doing the internal damage.
Due to their personal friendship Bill refused to believe HD would do such a thing and thought the volunteer staff (admin and/or mods) were infiltrated by psyops. He accused Avalon's admin who promptly up and quit. Bill refused to accept what the admins discovered and continued to believe the primary admin deleted the other witnesses threads and posts. Meanwhile, Kerry, not so easily fooled, sorted out what was going on. She put a stop to it by demodding HD (yet allowed him be moderator for his own forum, with no access to the mod chatbox) and letting MaryLou's thead stand along with her own statement.
If you look at this objectively one can only say each person acted from what they "believed" to be true and the right thing to do.
I think what was most difficult for all of us is that our own government would be involved in 911. Yet, this is the case... and it does go much deeper then this as at one level, there is an alien connection.
Next, I do accept that HD was on Mars. Some of you have yet to delve into all of the info out there regarding this but if you remember, the Philadelphia Experiment happened in the 1940s. Our government has been involved in time travel for a good 60 years. And it was at that time they opened a door to another dimension where some of the more warring type ETs slipped through. There is a whole other reality that we are only privy to through bits and pieces we see through the eyes of Hollywood.
Mars is accessed using Tesla's technology with telportation and time travel. One can walk into what looks like an elevator here on earth and the door can open into the future on Mars where the base is located. I've read various testimonies from a number of others and at least 3 others who do not know each other testimonies are consistent with one another.
In my research on alien cultures one thing is clear, there are many different alien cultures on this planet and each of them have their own agenda. The human looking off-worlders blend right in and even marry humans. (Read Mass Contact by Stefano Breccia if you want to research this more for yourself)
The way I see it is that Avalon was doomed from the onset. Folks like Anchor, Colin, MaryLou, John, Karen, myself and all of the mods put in many, many volunteer hours to try and keep it going. We loved the primary focus but did not agree with the management style which was difficult from the onset. You see, Kerry really doesn't have time to spend on a forum. She is too busy with her other activities so she tends to let others run it and will step in when she feels she has too. Bill was gone, completely absent. There was no leader, no direction so basically it developed on its own.
For myself, I honestly believe we all need to step back and get out of the blame game. Avalon did what it was meant to do... gather us together. Now it is splitting into areas of like-minded individuals. This is as it should be. Rather then having one's energy scattered it is becoming more focused. Each of us will eventually settled into whichever forum fits best for us at this time in our lives. I suspect we really don't have much time left so this is a good thing. It allows those just catching up to sort out what their priorities are and those who have already gone through the sorting process to go with the forum that holds the most interest for them.
Our primary Avalon gathering place will be closed. This site can be that type of place if folks continue to offer truth with compassion as compared to an acid rain that melts ones flesh off ones bones. I just ask each person to be kind. To please remember there is a real flesh and blood human being behind each post. Please, please be respectful and continue to build upon your positive karma in this life with the other members of the Mysts.
--------------------
Aloha, do jeh, toda, arigato, merci, grazie, salamat po, gracias, tack, sukria, danke schoen, kiitos, dank u, mahalo nui loa ~ Heaven
With deepest respect ~ Aloha & Mahalo, Carol
