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    Cliff High had his site taken down

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    Post  Anchor Thu Nov 04, 2010 2:11 am

    --test

    I added the line above as last line to Carols post.

    I thought when you edited a post, you got the edited by tag added at the end, but clearly this is not always the case.

    Live and learn.

    John..
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    Post  newel Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:29 am

    Anchor wrote:Well this post was not edited by anyone after it was posted.

    A lot of newspaper sites and blogs now have script that runs when you "COPY" text from them.

    Thank you. That makes sense. Disable Javascript before copying and enable it before pasting.

    Carol wrote:
    So who wants to guess what this is going to be about?

    I have no idea except that it has to be something that will hit the MSM harder than 9/11.

    Anchor wrote:
    I thought when you edited a post, you got the edited by tag added at the end, but clearly this is not always the case.

    The last post of a thread does not get the edited tag.
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    Post  LeeEllisMusic Thu Nov 04, 2010 8:09 am

    Here's the article on Cliff high's new numbers as of Nov 3
    Blessings,
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    http://www.halfpasthuman.com/nunums.html

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    New Tipping Point numbers ....



    All of the numerics of our work change with each new data analysis run. This is the nature of dynamic, radical linguistics. Knowing this, we have kept the spyder programs focused on data gathering as the planet is moved closer to the tipping point at which building tension language shifts suddenly to release of tension language.

    In spite of attempts at some level of officialdom to derail our progress and procedures (they have been Xxxxxxxx with us pretty seriously here at HPH), we have been able to keep the spyders out and about, and i have just (November 3, too damn early in the AM) finished the examination of the numerics and the sums. We have new conclusions to report.

    The new information comes in the form of some date changes, and two significant alterations to the release language period. First, the date changes.

    The emotional tension level plateau is has grown. It had been previously forecast to start on the 8th, but now shows as beginning on November 5, 2010, at approximately 2:30 PM Pacific Coast Time (UTC + Cool. Further, the plateau of building emotional tension now extends out further to the 14th of November instead of the 11th. This is the last building tension to accrue. Expect the level to stay maddeningly the same until the breaking point.

    Repeat. The 'break' in the tension values that indicates the tipping point after which we (the planet of humans) is into emotional release language starts on November 14th at 6:50AM Pacific Coast Time (UTC + Cool. Repeat - Tipping point starts on 11-14-2010.

    So we have had conditions alter such that the plateau is now starting earlier and lasting nearly 3 days longer.This relates to the timing of the shift into release language, now we need to concentrate on the slightly more complex nature of the release period that follows the tipping point.

    There have been several changes in the numerics associated with the release period. First is that the rate of decrease of the numerics is faster than previously forecast. This is to say that the 'angle' into the release language will be steeper. So, for regular humans, the important point is that the emotional response to the period will be more intense levels of release language. Yet another way to think of it is that more words expressing deeper levels of emotional turmoil will be assaulting you with greater intensity. Or, yet another way, you will need to exercise your personal lexicon harder to come up with words to express your level of emotional response to the manifesting circumstances of these (upcoming) days.

    So the descent into release language starts a few days later, and is steeper (deeper) which basically means it is forecast to be a bit more intense than first thought. Further we need to note that the release language now has 2/two alterations to its path. Previously we had thought that the release would be more or less down to about January 23rd of 2011 without any let up or alteration of the rate of release language expression. However, the data analyzed this morning shows that a minor small plateau shows up on January 1, 2011, that starts about 5AM Pacific Coast Time (UTC + Cool and lasts for nearly 25 hours until about 6 AM on January 2. During this 25 hour period the data shows that while the language still is within the release of emotional tension type, its rate of emotional release value sums virtually drops to zero. So kind of a 'hang time'. This small respite of slightly over one solar day, is abruptly shifted back to the release language value decrease rate as though without pause on January 2, 2011. This rate then continues unabated for 5 additional days until January 7th at which point becomes really accelerated (increased angle of descent) as the rate of numeric value reduction nearly doubles. Stated another way, the levels of release language, already very severe, and in continuous stream since November 14th of 2010, nearly double in a very rapid fashion over mere hours (1.12 hours) on January 7th, at about 5 AM. Further this increased rate of emotional release language persists for an additional 23 hours until 4:30 AM on the 8th of January. Then, whew, the rate of release language goes back to its previously experienced levels, which , while steep, are not as intense as the January 7 to 8 'purge' of anguish.

    The rate of release language continues at its original pace until January the 17th when the first of any building tension values appears after 63(sixty three days). This is NOT a good sign as the mega sun spot cycle has its next 'active' day for solar eruptions on January 18th. And if the activity levels of October 24-28th are any indication, we can expect major Terra intrusions on that date and to continue for a few weeks afterward.

    So, basically, things have changed, but remain, mainly the same. For the mind controlled human, all things are either a curse or a blessing. For the aware human, all things are merely challenges. Note: challenging times just around this next temporal bend. Time yet remains to pie up and have a good nap.

    Likely this is the last update prior to the tipping point on 11-14-2010.

    November 3, 2010

    Bona fortuna omnihumanity in novum annum.
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    Post  enemyofNWO Thu Nov 04, 2010 8:27 am

    I Found the link to this video on Urbansurval . George Ure is a friend of Cliff . George recommends to watch the following video about a possible black flag .





    There is a Sympson episode that shows a nuclear explosion in an American city . It is really worthwhile watching it . It last only 10 minutes .


    Now . Let's see what's happening .

    1) Obama will be out of country for a trip to ASIA .
    2) Hillary Clinton is already out of the US .
    3) US /Israeli members of the Obama White House staff have resigned their position only recently ..
    4) The day of the 9/11 black flag operation , Jewish companies located in the WTC were advised to close down for the day .
    5) It appears that government officials do not want to be in Washington in that period of November .

    Whatever is going to happen from false flag to a market meltdown , Obama does not want to be involved ! Do you remember at the time of the 9/11 George (the Shrub ) Bush took refuge in a primary school and received a lot of flak ?
    If by any chance something happens ( we hope not ) this event has already the Israeli dirty fingers on it !





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    Post  lindabaker Thu Nov 04, 2010 9:13 am

    Thank you for this, Enemyof. I have second hand information that there are a whole lot of people leaving D.C. right now. Motorcade after motorcade, like a high-end evacuation. It may be a sign that if there is a plan, some know, and some don't know that it is time to get out of Dodge. Interesting information.
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    Post  Brook Thu Nov 04, 2010 12:05 pm

    lindabaker wrote:Thank you for this, Enemyof. I have second hand information that there are a whole lot of people leaving D.C. right now. Motorcade after motorcade, like a high-end evacuation. It may be a sign that if there is a plan, some know, and some don't know that it is time to get out of Dodge. Interesting information.

    Now that is interesting information. Wonder what they are running from?
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    Post  superhero Thu Nov 04, 2010 1:20 pm

    Thanks for posting Lee - much appreciated! cheers






    LeeEllisMusic wrote:Here's the article on Cliff high's new numbers as of Nov 3
    Blessings,
    Lee


    http://www.halfpasthuman.com/nunums.html

    ***********************

    New Tipping Point numbers ....



    All of the numerics of our work change with each new data analysis run. This is the nature of dynamic, radical linguistics. Knowing this, we have kept the spyder programs focused on data gathering as the planet is moved closer to the tipping point at which building tension language shifts suddenly to release of tension language.

    In spite of attempts at some level of officialdom to derail our progress and procedures (they have been Xxxxxxxx with us pretty seriously here at HPH), we have been able to keep the spyders out and about, and i have just (November 3, too damn early in the AM) finished the examination of the numerics and the sums. We have new conclusions to report.

    The new information comes in the form of some date changes, and two significant alterations to the release language period. First, the date changes.

    The emotional tension level plateau is has grown. It had been previously forecast to start on the 8th, but now shows as beginning on November 5, 2010, at approximately 2:30 PM Pacific Coast Time (UTC + Cool. Further, the plateau of building emotional tension now extends out further to the 14th of November instead of the 11th. This is the last building tension to accrue. Expect the level to stay maddeningly the same until the breaking point.

    Repeat. The 'break' in the tension values that indicates the tipping point after which we (the planet of humans) is into emotional release language starts on November 14th at 6:50AM Pacific Coast Time (UTC + Cool. Repeat - Tipping point starts on 11-14-2010.

    So we have had conditions alter such that the plateau is now starting earlier and lasting nearly 3 days longer.This relates to the timing of the shift into release language, now we need to concentrate on the slightly more complex nature of the release period that follows the tipping point.

    There have been several changes in the numerics associated with the release period. First is that the rate of decrease of the numerics is faster than previously forecast. This is to say that the 'angle' into the release language will be steeper. So, for regular humans, the important point is that the emotional response to the period will be more intense levels of release language. Yet another way to think of it is that more words expressing deeper levels of emotional turmoil will be assaulting you with greater intensity. Or, yet another way, you will need to exercise your personal lexicon harder to come up with words to express your level of emotional response to the manifesting circumstances of these (upcoming) days.

    So the descent into release language starts a few days later, and is steeper (deeper) which basically means it is forecast to be a bit more intense than first thought. Further we need to note that the release language now has 2/two alterations to its path. Previously we had thought that the release would be more or less down to about January 23rd of 2011 without any let up or alteration of the rate of release language expression. However, the data analyzed this morning shows that a minor small plateau shows up on January 1, 2011, that starts about 5AM Pacific Coast Time (UTC + Cool and lasts for nearly 25 hours until about 6 AM on January 2. During this 25 hour period the data shows that while the language still is within the release of emotional tension type, its rate of emotional release value sums virtually drops to zero. So kind of a 'hang time'. This small respite of slightly over one solar day, is abruptly shifted back to the release language value decrease rate as though without pause on January 2, 2011. This rate then continues unabated for 5 additional days until January 7th at which point becomes really accelerated (increased angle of descent) as the rate of numeric value reduction nearly doubles. Stated another way, the levels of release language, already very severe, and in continuous stream since November 14th of 2010, nearly double in a very rapid fashion over mere hours (1.12 hours) on January 7th, at about 5 AM. Further this increased rate of emotional release language persists for an additional 23 hours until 4:30 AM on the 8th of January. Then, whew, the rate of release language goes back to its previously experienced levels, which , while steep, are not as intense as the January 7 to 8 'purge' of anguish.

    The rate of release language continues at its original pace until January the 17th when the first of any building tension values appears after 63(sixty three days). This is NOT a good sign as the mega sun spot cycle has its next 'active' day for solar eruptions on January 18th. And if the activity levels of October 24-28th are any indication, we can expect major Terra intrusions on that date and to continue for a few weeks afterward.

    So, basically, things have changed, but remain, mainly the same. For the mind controlled human, all things are either a curse or a blessing. For the aware human, all things are merely challenges. Note: challenging times just around this next temporal bend. Time yet remains to pie up and have a good nap.

    Likely this is the last update prior to the tipping point on 11-14-2010.

    November 3, 2010

    Bona fortuna omnihumanity in novum annum.
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    Post  Carol Thu Nov 04, 2010 1:26 pm

    I was just listening to Jim Berkland and he said there is a major seismic window that is opening up with the new moon beginning Nov 5th through the 14th and that the Aleutian Islands look like something will happen there. Meanwhile there were over 400 small quakes in California and Mexico this past week. The one in San Joaquin Valley was unusual because they usually don't get quakes there.

    So we may get some major earth shifts coming up during this time period.


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    Post  Guest Thu Nov 04, 2010 2:01 pm

    Carol wrote:I was just listening to Jim Berkland and he said there is a major seismic window that is opening up with the new moon beginning Nov 5th through the 14th and that the Aleutian Islands look like something will happen there. Meanwhile there were over 400 small quakes in California and Mexico this past week. The one in San Joaquin Valley was unusual because they usually don't get quakes there.

    So we may get some major earth shifts coming up during this time period.

    There have been 11 quakes at the Andreanof Islands, Aleutian Islands, Alaska today http://tsunami.geo.ed.ac.uk/local-bin/quakes/mapscript/demo_run.pl
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    Post  newel Fri Nov 05, 2010 11:01 pm

    Radio show with Mel and Clif is supposed to be online in a few minutes:
    http://www.veritasshow.com/

    Edit, It's on! Here:
    http://www.manticoregroup.com/radio/latest.htm
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    Post  Carol Sat Nov 06, 2010 1:32 am

    Listening now, thanks. albino


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    Post  Guest Sat Nov 06, 2010 7:05 am

    metaw3 wrote:Radio show with Mel and Clif is supposed to be online in a few minutes:
    http://www.veritasshow.com/

    Edit, It's on! Here:
    http://www.manticoregroup.com/radio/latest.htm

    Thanks Flowers
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    Post  Guest Sat Nov 06, 2010 10:14 am

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    Post  Carol Sat Nov 06, 2010 11:00 am

    Bloomberg article has already been taken down.. post text A.

    Here is the next link.

    NICE, France (Dow Jones)-- French President Nicolas Sarkozy, after a meeting with his Chinese counterpart, on Friday called for world economic powers to stop squabbling and hammer out a new international monetary system.

    France has set reform of the international monetary system as its chief priority for its upcoming presidency of the G-20 group of leading nations.

    The country's ambition is for all countries "to accept to sit around a ...

    Next link:

    IMF Executive Board Approves Major Overhaul of Quotas and Governance
    Press Release No. 10/418
    November 5, 2010

    The Executive Board of the International Monetary Fund (IMF) today approved proposals that will lead to a major overhaul of the Fund’s quotas and governance, strengthening the Fund’s legitimacy and effectiveness.

    “This historic agreement is the most fundamental governance overhaul in the Fund’s 65-year history and the biggest ever shift of influence in favor of emerging market and developing countries to recognize their growing role in the global economy,” IMF Managing Director Dominique Strauss-Kahn said after the Executive Board’s decision.

    As part of the far-reaching reforms, the Executive Board proposes completion of the 14th General Review of Quotas with a doubling of quotas to approximately SDR 476.8 billion (about US$755.7 billion at current exchange rates) and a major realignment of quota shares among members. It will result in a shift of more than 6 percent of quota shares to dynamic emerging market and developing countries and more than 6 percent from over-represented to under-represented countries, while protecting the quota shares and voting power of the poorest members. The Board also endorsed proposals that would lead to a more representative, all-elected Executive Board.

    The Executive Board, which oversees the Fund’s day-to-day operations, recommended the reform package to the Board of Governors, which represents all 187 members and must approve the proposed quota increases and a proposed amendment of the Articles of Agreement that would eliminate the category of appointed Executive Directors. Following the Board of Governors’ approval, the proposed quota increases and the amendment will have to be accepted by the membership, which in many cases involves parliamentary approval, and which members will make best efforts to complete by the Annual Meetings 2012.

    “The doubling of quotas maintains the quota-based nature of the Fund, and ensures its ability to serve its membership in times of crisis. A fairer allocation of quota shares reflecting better our members’ economic importance, together with a more representative Executive Board, will enhance the credibility and effectiveness of the Fund’s ongoing efforts towards greater global financial stability,” Mr. Strauss-Kahn said.

    “The reforms build on those initiated in 2008 and, combined with the earlier steps, the voting shares of emerging market and developing countries as a group will rise by well over 5 percentage points,” he added. “The package we have arrived at is a balanced one. The negotiations have not been easy, but our members have shown a willingness to compromise and to demonstrate the flexibility needed to reach an agreement for the greater common good. For that I thank each and every member country—all the various national authorities that have made great efforts in advancing these discussions, including Korea which played an important role in bringing together the G-20 two weeks ago. I look forward to the Board of Governors’ approval of these reforms.”

    The quota shift would exceed the target set out in October 2009 by ministers and governors in the International Monetary and Financial Committee (IMFC)—the Fund’s policy-advisory body—of a shift in quota share to dynamic emerging market and developing countries of at least 5 percent from over-represented countries to under-represented countries, while the voting share of the poorest members is protected. The 10 largest members of the Fund will consist of the United States, Japan, the “BRICs” (Brazil, China, India, the Russian Federation), and the four largest European countries (France, Germany, Italy, the United Kingdom). The Executive Board endorsed a timeline that calls for the quota increase and realignments to take effect by the Annual Meetings of October 2012, and Executive Board reforms to be implemented no later than the subsequent Executive Board election, which is scheduled in late 2012.

    Summary of the Key Elements of the Reforms:

    1) Quotas and Voting shares

    • Quota increase – Members’ quotas, the Fund’s principal source of financial resources, will double under the 14th General Review of Quotas to SDR 476.8 billion from SDR 238.4 billion agreed under the 2008 quota and voice reform. Once the increase in quotas becomes effective, there will be a corresponding rollback in the New Arrangements to Borrow (NAB), a back-stop arrangement between the IMF and a group of IMF members to provide additional lending resources to the Fund, preserving relative shares.

    • Shift in shares – The minimum targets set out in the October 2009 IMFC Communiqué will be exceeded with a more than 6 percent quota shift from over-represented to under-represented members, and a more than 6 percent quota shift to dynamic emerging market and developing countries. Moreover, the total shift in voting share to emerging market and developing countries as a whole will be 5.3 percent, when combined with the 2008 quota and voice reform.

    • Protecting the voting power of the poorest – Voting shares will be preserved for the poorest countries, defined as those members eligible for borrowing from the low-income Poverty Reduction and Growth Trust and whose per capita income is below the International Development Association threshold (US$1,135 in 2008, the year on which the quota reform calculations are based, or twice that amount for small countries).

    • Quota formula and next review –A comprehensive review of the current quota formula, which formed the basis to work from during the 14th General Review, will be completed by January 2013. Completion of the 15th General Review of Quotas will be brought forward by about two years to January 2014. The goal is to continue the dynamic process of adjusting quota shares to reflect shifts in the global economy. Any realignment is expected to result in increases in the quota shares of dynamic economies in line with their relative positions in the global economy, and hence likely in the share of emerging market and developing countries as a whole. Steps will also be taken to protect the voice and representation of the poorest members.

    2) Governance—Executive Board size and composition

    • The membership commits to maintain the Executive Board size at 24 members, and to review Board composition every eight years, starting when the quota reform takes effect.

    • Advanced European countries will reduce their combined Board representation by two chairs at the latest by the time of the first election after the quota reform takes effect.

    • The Executive Board will consist only of elected Executive Directors following entry into force of the proposed amendment of the Fund’s Articles of Agreement, ending the category of appointed Executive Directors (currently the members with the five largest quotas appoint an Executive Director).

    • There will be further scope for appointing second Alternate Executive Directors to enhance representation of multi-country constituencies.

    ANNEX

    The Board of Governors is the highest decision-making body of the IMF and consists of one governor appointed by each member country. The governor is usually the minister of finance or the governor of the central bank. Most powers of the IMF are vested in the Board of Governors. The Board of Governors has delegated to the Executive Board all except certain reserved powers. The Board of Governors normally meets once a year.

    The Executive Board functions in continuous session and is responsible for conducting the business of the IMF. It is composed of 24 Directors, who are appointed (5) or elected by member countries or by groups of countries (19), and the Managing Director, who serves as its Chairman. The Board usually meets several times each week. It carries out its work largely on the basis of papers prepared by IMF management and staff.

    Each member country of the IMF is assigned a quota, based on its relative position in the world economy and various other variables. Quota subscriptions generate most of the IMF's financial resources. A member’s quota determines its maximum financial commitment to the IMF and its voting power, and has a bearing on its access to IMF financing.




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    Post  newel Sat Nov 06, 2010 11:06 am

    Carol wrote:Bloomberg article has already been taken down.. post text A.


    It's just the link here that is broken. Here it is:
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-11-06/imf-approves-china-as-third-biggest-power-weakening-influence-of-europe.html
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    Post  Guest Sat Nov 06, 2010 11:06 am

    Here is the article from Bloomberg

    The International Monetary Fund’s executive board approved a plan that would make China the third- strongest voice in the organization while weakening Europe’s influence to make room for emerging economies.

    Acting on an Oct. 23 deal by finance chiefs of the Group of 20 nations, the IMF agreed to shift more than 6 percent of voting rights to what officials called “dynamic” developing countries. That would give more say to nations such as Brazil and South Korea, while decreasing the clout of European members including Belgium and Germany. “Advanced” European countries are also set to give up two seats on the board under the package.

    “We catch up with the reality,” IMF Managing Director Dominique Strauss-Kahn told reporters at a news briefing in Washington today, calling the agreement historical. “The ranking of the countries is really the ranking they have in the global economy.”

    The plan now requires the approval of an 85 percent majority of the 187 members’ votes and most countries will then need to go through a legislative process to enable the changes.

    The aim is to make the 65-year-old institution a better reflection of a world economy that was pulled out of the recession and is still being driven by growth in emerging markets. The planned changes come at a time when the IMF has been asked to help the G-20 monitor global trade imbalances and exchange rates amid tensions between its members over whose policies are most hurtful to a balanced global recovery.

    Increased Responsibilities

    Officials including U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner and Strauss-Kahn have tried to link access to bigger clout at the IMF to increased “responsibilities” in the global economy, a hint at China to accelerate its currency’s appreciation. China has said it’s done enough to deserve more say.

    While the governance package is “a big moment” in the history of the fund, it’s unlikely to prompt China, which moved from the sixth rank, to adopt a different stance on the yuan, said Bessma Momani, a professor at the University of Waterloo’s political science department in Canada.

    “For people to expect the Chinese to somehow switch gears and become very vocal at the IMF because of its increase in political weight there is very premature,” she said.

    After the changes take effect, the fund’s 10 biggest shareholders will comprise the U.S., Japan, Germany, the U.K, France and Italy as well as Brazil, Russia, India and China. A smaller shift in voting rights of 2008 has still not been implemented.

    Months of Negotiations

    The agreement ends months of negotiations that saw the U.S., Europe and some emerging nations at loggerheads over who should give up power. It also closes a debate unexpectedly forced by the U.S. in August of which countries should sit on the institution’s board of directors, which will now permanently have 24 chairs.

    The developed European nations’ plan on how to give up two seats is not yet agreed on, though it will probably be based on having some European countries take turns at the board with emerging economies, according to two European officials who spoke on conditions of anonymity. Turkey and Poland may benefit from the changes, the officials said.

    The shift in voting shares will take place through a general increase of quotas, which also determine members’ financial commitment to the fund and access to loans. That means the IMF’s permanent resources will be doubled to about $750 billion, mostly by shifting countries’ contribution from an emergency pool, according to the G-20.
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    Post  Carol Sat Nov 06, 2010 11:11 am

    Thanks guys. I thought this may happen after China was ramming the Japanese ship a couple of days ago and how China is positioning themselves around the globe. China is jockeying for world control and may have the financial means to do so.

    Thanks Andromeda. Having the text helps just in case something else happens.

    The Feds announcement went over like a lead balloon. I wonder where Obama's family is (Michelle and kids). Are they back in Washington or with him?

    Global anger swells at Fed actions

    ASHINGTON/BEIJING (Reuters) – Global anger at a fresh round of liquidity injections into the U.S. economy swelled on Friday as Germany called the move "clueless" and emerging nations protested that it will wreak havoc on them.

    Harsh criticism poured in as President Barack Obama headed for Asia on a trip he had hoped to use as a springboard for pressuring China to revalue its yuan but may end up in a fractious Group of 20 leaders summit next week.

    The United States has been pressing China, largely unsuccessfully, to let its yuan currency rise more quickly to reflect the strength of what is now the world's second-largest economy and help correct global trade imbalances.

    The Federal Reserve's decision this week to buy $600 billion in long-term bonds with new money to try to revive the flagging U.S. economy have increased fears of more money pouring across borders in search of better returns.

    China landed its own blows by saying a U.S. proposal for numerical targets for surpluses and deficits -- akin to a range for yuan appreciation -- smacked of outmoded central planning that won't win any friends for the United States.

    Chinese Vice-Foreign Minister Cui Tiankai, who is China's chief G20 negotiator, told a news briefing that he was also worried at the prospect of a flood of money pouring into global markets in search of higher yields.

    "They owe us some explanation," Cui said. "I've seen much concern about the impact of this policy on financial stability in other countries."

    FED LIQUDIDITY CREATING PROBLEMS IN OTHER COUNTRIES
    A "common theme" is emerging that "excess liquidity in the U.S. is creating problems in other countries," Brazil's Central Bank Governor Henrique Meirelles told reporters in Chicago.
    Resentment abroad stems from worry that Fed pump-priming will hasten the U.S. dollar's slide and cause their currencies to shoot up in value, setting the stage for asset bubbles and making a future burst of inflation more likely.

    "With all due respect, U.S. policy is clueless," German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble told a conference.
    "(The problem) is not a shortage of liquidity. It's not that the Americans haven't pumped enough liquidity into the market, and now to say let's pump more into the market is not going to solve their problems."

    Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke, speaking to students in Florida, seized the opportunity to defend the move by saying "a strong U.S. economy, a recovering economy, is critical, not just for Americans but it's also critical for the global economy."

    New U.S. unemployment figures on Friday, showing a surprisingly strong 151,000 jobs were created in October, caused some analysts to question whether the Federal Reserve's pledge to buy up to $600 billion of Treasury securities was even necessary.

    But with a jobless rate stuck at 9.6 percent, few doubted the Fed will proceed with buying.

    German Chancellor Angela Merkel will address U.S. policy in Group of 20 discussions on exchange rates, a government source said, adding that she shared Schaeuble's criticism.
    Policymakers from the world's new economic powerhouses in Latin America and Asia have said they would consider fresh steps to curb capital inflows after the Fed's move.
    South African Finance Minister Pravin Gordhan said Fed policy "undermines the spirit of multilateral cooperation" that the G20 had sought to achieve. The money will find its way into financial markets of emerging nations with potentially devastating impact on their exports, he charged.

    Zhou Xiaochuan, China's central bank governor, said while Beijing could understand that the Fed was implementing more monetary easing in order to stimulate U.S. recovery, it may not be a good policy for the global economy.

    Before he left on an Asian trip that will take him to the G20 gathering next week, President Barack Obama said a dramatically realigned political landscape in the United States called for cooperation at home because U.S. global economic leadership was at stake.

    "We can't spend the next two years mired in gridlock," Obama said in a reference to the outcome of mid-term elections that put Republicans in control of the U.S. House of representatives. "Other countries, like China, aren't standing still. So we can't stand still either."

    NO BALANCE
    Efforts to reduce imbalances that are destabilizing the global economy will top the agenda of the November 11-12 summit of the Group of 20 forum of leading economies in Seoul.
    China and Germany oppose a plan floated by U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner last month to cap current account surpluses and deficits at 4 percent of gross domestic product.

    "Of course, we hope to see more balanced current accounts," Chinese Vice-Foreign Minister Cui Tiankai told a news briefing. "But we believe it would not be a good approach to single out this issue and focus all attention on it. The artificial setting of a numerical target cannot but remind us of the days of planned economies."
    Cui, China's chief G20 negotiator, also rejected any attempt to set target ranges for the yuan to appreciate.

    "That would indeed be asking us to manipulate the ... exchange rate, and it is something that we will of course not do," Cui said.
    The Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) forum in Kyoto, which Geithner will attend, will also provide an opportunity for emerging economies to voice their views of the Fed's action.


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    Post  Carol Sat Nov 06, 2010 11:32 am

    Drudge headlines.

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    ALL SMILES AND OUT OF DC

    China tees up showdown with USA..
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    Powder keg...

    Bernanke Defends Pumping...

    Treasury Yields Tumble to Records...
    Republicans to Use Debt Cap to Push Cut

    9 AIRCRAFT IN OBAMA ENTOURAGE...
    600 SECURITY AGENTS FORM 'PROTECTION RING' AT HOTEL...
    'First time' ever teleprompter will be used in Indian parliament...
    'We thought Obama is a trained orator'...


    In India: Even if the closure is for six minutes, one has to take into account the sheer number of aircraft in Obamas entourage, said an airport official. With nine aircraft, helicopters and planes, scheduled to land on Nov 6, air-space closure may last for at least 54 minutes.

    Read more: Air Force One to hit schedules for a six - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mumbai/Air-Force-One-to-hit-schedules-for-a-six/articleshow/6874304.cms#ixzz14W7WYbug


    What the hell is this all about? He is traveling around the world with all of these people, planes, helicopters, ships... good gad! AND THE NATION IS BROKE - HE'S SMILING!


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    Post  newel Sat Nov 06, 2010 11:49 am

    Carol wrote:What the hell is this all about?

    Besides the obvious money situation, this guy might have something on how it's gonna be played out officially:
    godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1245290/pg1


    NUCLEAR BOMB CONTINGENCIES. WHY OBAMA IS IN INDIA.

    As I see it, Obama is rightfully scared shitless about the possibility of a Radical Islamic take over of Pakistan. He wants to get Indian cooperation for a joint strike to bottle up the Pakistani nukes. As of last report, they were stored in one secure place. We can nuke that storage area, but only if we were to get India's concurrence that it is necessary. We may be offering Indian rule over Pakistan and Afghanistan if they support us in a ground war to force regime change in Iran.

    We will approach them about the coming war with Iran. We can not allow Radical Islamic Iran to have nuclear weapons. Even their ally Russia is scared shitless that the Iranians might give nuclear support to the Radical Islamic rebels in Chechnya or elsewhere in Russia. there were hundreds of forest fires and grass fires set in Russia this past summer by Radical Islamic rebels. Hundreds of thousands of acres of grain fields were burned by the Islamics. A strong Russian retaliation is coming and it might border on Russian genocide on Radical Islamic hot spots in their country and elsewhere.

    We have to clamp a lid on any potential Radical Islamic use of nuclear bombs. Their prophecy is that they will destroy the world and kill all of the infidels.

    Since good Christians, Jews, Hindus, Confucians, and Shinto Priests are seen as infidels most of the world is not interested in having their heads cut off with rusty knives. Action has to be taken.

    Once all hell breaks loose, I expect to see Europe break out in civil war with Infidels killing Islamics where ever they are found. You know it is building up to it. All of the horrific Radical Islamic bombings in Europe have the people about ready to rise up and retaliate. I would not blame them. If I was a Turkish worker in Germany, I would be considering moving back to Turkey right about now.

    It is all coming to a head people. I do not know what will happen if India shows they have no balls for the coming action.
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    Post  Carol Sat Nov 06, 2010 12:18 pm

    Thanks metaw. I was just reading where Obama planned on being go for 10 days. Hmmm, after the tipping point breaks and eases off. And I saw his wife with him. I wonder if the kids are with them too because that would indicate they are not safe in Washington DC



    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/22/AR2010102202786.html
    Think this economy is bad? Wait for 2012.

    By Greg Ip
    Sunday, October 24, 2010
    We're barely two years past the banking crisis, still weathering the mortgage crisis and nervously watching Europe struggle with its sovereign debt crisis. Yet every economic seer has a favorite prediction about what part of the economy the next crisis will come from: Municipal bonds? Hedge funds? Derivatives? The federal debt?


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    Post  Brook Sat Nov 06, 2010 12:18 pm

    I find this quite interesting.......Just before Obama left he signed an order about the Attorney General. It seems he is the only one in the white house staff that is not going on this trip.

    If I were the Attorney General....I'd be very worried...... coincidence? Rolling Eyes



    Executive Order--Order of Succession Within the Department of Justice

    By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the Federal Vacancies Reform Act of 1998, 5 U.S.C. 3345 et seq., it is hereby ordered that: Section 1. Order of Succession. Subject to the provisions of section 2 of this order, the following officers, in the order listed, shall act as and perform the functions and duties of the office of Attorney General, during any period in which the Attorney General, the Deputy Attorney General, the Associate Attorney General,and any officers designated by the Attorney General pursuant to 28U.S.C. 508 to act as Attorney General have died, resigned, or otherwise become unable to perform the functions and duties of the office of Attorney General, until such time as at least one of the officers mentioned above is able to perform the functions and duties of that office:
    (a) United States Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia;
    (b) United States Attorney for the District of Minnesota; and
    (c) United States Attorney for the District of Arizona.
    ............. http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2010/11/04/executive-order-order-succession-within-department-justice


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    Post  Brook Sat Nov 06, 2010 12:23 pm

    Now isn't the Attorney the only one who can legally arrest the President of the United States? Or am I mistake on that?
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    Post  Brook Sat Nov 06, 2010 12:37 pm

    One more note...on that very same day...November 4, 2010 he signed this order.....regarding the disclosure of "controlled Unclassified Information"



    Executive Order -- Controlled Unclassified Information

    By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered as follows: Section 1. Purpose. This order establishes an open and uniform program for managing information that requires safeguarding or dissemination controls pursuant to and consistent with law,regulations, and Government-wide policies, excluding information that is classified under Executive Order 13526 of December 29, 2009, or the Atomic Energy Act, as amended. At present, executive departments and agencies (agencies)employ ad hoc, agency-specific policies, procedures, and markings to safeguard and control this information, such as information that involves privacy, security, proprietary business interests, and law enforcement investigations. This inefficient, confusing patchwork has resulted in inconsistent marking and safeguarding of documents, led to unclear or unnecessarily restrictive dissemination policies, and created impediments to authorized information sharing. The fact that these agency-specific policies are often hidden from public view has only aggravated these issues. To address these problems, this order establishes a program for managing this information, hereinafter described as Controlled Unclassified Information, that emphasizes the openness and uniformity of Government-wide practice

    .....................http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2010/11/04/executive-order-controlled-unclassified-information

    So.....what's up Mr Obama?
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    Post  Brook Sat Nov 06, 2010 1:33 pm

    Well, I just find it quite interesting that Obama, takes a fleet of ships....his staff, excluding the Attorney General, and set's these two orders. And just before taking off on his trip...one that has an unprecedented entourage, and military presence up the ying yang. These two orders are interesting in and of themselves...but right before the trip is a RED FLAG.
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    Post  malletzky Sat Nov 06, 2010 1:53 pm

    A lot of speculations can be raed these days about this trip to India. One particular is that this one, (inclusive the whole fleet of ships) will costs the US taxpayers aprox. 2.000.000.000 $, or some 200.000.000 per day.

    Now I wonder...usually, such trips are planed allways in advance. But could we assume that it's been particulary planed to be right NOW?


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