Why do people give these idiots credence?
If people follow this advise from these "alleged" aliens we could all end up looking like this
All rather sinister.
Floyd wrote:Why is it that publications by folk like the fascist William Dudley, the race controlling Urantians and the Talmud spawned from the fraudulent and self proclaimed messiah Billy Meires UFO cult promote eugenics and selective breeding along with race hate and homophobia etc?
Why do people give these idiots credence?
If people follow this advise from these "alleged" aliens we could all end up looking like this
All rather sinister.
ceridwen wrote:
It is very interesting indeed. I have been researching different myths to track down what could be the reason for this desire of getting an alien saviour
I am currently reading the Silmarillion by JRR Tolkien and there is this character Melkor jealous of the creation and always working to derail it
Similarly there is the Gnostic Sophia that strays and wants a creation similar to herself. The result is the archons who allegedly influences the human mind for the worse
A bit like good angel/bad angel
Perhaps there is something to it and we as a specie have a weakness that allows some of us to be influenced by unpleasant and revengeful outcast of creation?
orthodoxymoron wrote:How can we really know anything for certain -- especially regarding the BIG issues about Life, the Universe, and Everything??? I have been attempting to engage in a sort of Political and Theological Science Fiction -- which takes in all of the conspiracy-theories and little-green-men stories -- yet which remains mostly undecided regarding just about everything. Unfortunately, despite my best intentions, I seem to have burned myself rather badly with all of this madness. At this point, I'm not sure exactly how to proceed. Perhaps simply working-hard and playing-hard might be the way for me to go -- and this might be the best way for most people to live. I have attempted to converse with the people who frequent this site regarding aliens and the end of the world -- but I do not talk to people I meet every day about any of this madness. I have purposely kept low-profile because of the volatile and upsetting nature of the subject-matter -- and because of the difficulty in proving any of it. Still, I really would like to figure out a lot of the hidden aspects of life, the universe, and everything -- even if it puts me in the poor-house, the nut-house, or in Camp FEMA.
orthodoxymoron wrote:How can we really know anything for certain -- especially regarding the BIG issues about Life, the Universe, and Everything??? I have been attempting to engage in a sort of Political and Theological Science Fiction -- which takes in all of the conspiracy-theories and little-green-men stories -- yet which remains mostly undecided regarding just about everything. Unfortunately, despite my best intentions, I seem to have burned myself rather badly with all of this madness. At this point, I'm not sure exactly how to proceed. Perhaps simply working-hard and playing-hard might be the way for me to go -- and this might be the best way for most people to live. I have attempted to converse with the people who frequent this site regarding aliens and the end of the world -- but I do not talk to people I meet every day about any of this madness. I have purposely kept low-profile because of the volatile and upsetting nature of the subject-matter -- and because of the difficulty in proving any of it. Still, I really would like to figure out a lot of the hidden aspects of life, the universe, and everything -- even if it puts me in the poor-house, the nut-house, or in Camp FEMA.
ceridwen wrote:orthodoxymoron wrote:How can we really know anything for certain -- especially regarding the BIG issues about Life, the Universe, and Everything??? I have been attempting to engage in a sort of Political and Theological Science Fiction -- which takes in all of the conspiracy-theories and little-green-men stories -- yet which remains mostly undecided regarding just about everything. Unfortunately, despite my best intentions, I seem to have burned myself rather badly with all of this madness. At this point, I'm not sure exactly how to proceed. Perhaps simply working-hard and playing-hard might be the way for me to go -- and this might be the best way for most people to live. I have attempted to converse with the people who frequent this site regarding aliens and the end of the world -- but I do not talk to people I meet every day about any of this madness. I have purposely kept low-profile because of the volatile and upsetting nature of the subject-matter -- and because of the difficulty in proving any of it. Still, I really would like to figure out a lot of the hidden aspects of life, the universe, and everything -- even if it puts me in the poor-house, the nut-house, or in Camp FEMA.
I think I have been where you are in this moment. The problem resides in "believing" vs "experiencing"
We have been trained to believe what "authorities" say, therefore anyone who writes a book or does an interview becomes a bona fide "authority"
Much to my regret the New Age Movement failed the grade and has been taken over by psy ops or created by psy ops pushing a "new religion" agenda
The ETs do not come as "equals". We are the "puny little" humans as Salusa has said, unable to sort our own problems. For me all that is same old, same old
Religion was never created to enlighten anyone. It is a tool for mass control. UFO movements are a form of fanatical religion IMHO
Follow yourself and be your own experience is my mantra, for wisdom I visit the woods. Anytime I have a question I visit the woods, I always come back with an answer. All that I have to do is be open-minded and observe rather than think as in "being in the moment" and merge with the scenery
I am not saying that there are no other beings but, transcended beings are egalitarian because they realize that all is one and all will go back to one eventually. Transcended being do not lecture, don't offer unsolicited advice, don't speak, they talk in pictures and music
All the rest is BS, we do not need priests (male or women), channelers, intermediaries of any sort. Facilitators and shamans perhaps but only if they do not try to control
No transcended being will suggest that one's body or senses are "bad". We are here with a body and we have senses to use them. Life is it
Just some random thoughts
ceridwen wrote:
The ETs do not come as "equals". We are the "puny little" humans as Salusa has said, unable to sort our own problems. For me all that is same old, same old
Religion was never created to enlighten anyone. It is a tool for mass control. UFO movements are a form of fanatical religion IMHO
Follow yourself and be your own experience is my mantra, for wisdom I visit the woods. Anytime I have a question I visit the woods, I always come back with an answer. All that I have to do is be open-minded and observe rather than think as in "being in the moment" and merge with the scenery
I am not saying that there are no other beings but, transcended beings are egalitarian because they realize that all is one and all will go back to one eventually. Transcended being do not lecture, don't offer unsolicited advice, don't speak, they talk in pictures and music
All the rest is BS, we do not need priests (male or women), channelers, intermediaries of any sort. Facilitators and shamans perhaps but only if they do not try to control
devakas wrote:ceridwen wrote:orthodoxymoron wrote:How can we really know anything for certain -- especially regarding the BIG issues about Life, the Universe, and Everything??? I have been attempting to engage in a sort of Political and Theological Science Fiction -- which takes in all of the conspiracy-theories and little-green-men stories -- yet which remains mostly undecided regarding just about everything. Unfortunately, despite my best intentions, I seem to have burned myself rather badly with all of this madness. At this point, I'm not sure exactly how to proceed. Perhaps simply working-hard and playing-hard might be the way for me to go -- and this might be the best way for most people to live. I have attempted to converse with the people who frequent this site regarding aliens and the end of the world -- but I do not talk to people I meet every day about any of this madness. I have purposely kept low-profile because of the volatile and upsetting nature of the subject-matter -- and because of the difficulty in proving any of it. Still, I really would like to figure out a lot of the hidden aspects of life, the universe, and everything -- even if it puts me in the poor-house, the nut-house, or in Camp FEMA.
I think I have been where you are in this moment. The problem resides in "believing" vs "experiencing"
We have been trained to believe what "authorities" say, therefore anyone who writes a book or does an interview becomes a bona fide "authority"
Much to my regret the New Age Movement failed the grade and has been taken over by psy ops or created by psy ops pushing a "new religion" agenda
The ETs do not come as "equals". We are the "puny little" humans as Salusa has said, unable to sort our own problems. For me all that is same old, same old
Religion was never created to enlighten anyone. It is a tool for mass control. UFO movements are a form of fanatical religion IMHO
Follow yourself and be your own experience is my mantra, for wisdom I visit the woods. Anytime I have a question I visit the woods, I always come back with an answer. All that I have to do is be open-minded and observe rather than think as in "being in the moment" and merge with the scenery
I am not saying that there are no other beings but, transcended beings are egalitarian because they realize that all is one and all will go back to one eventually. Transcended being do not lecture, don't offer unsolicited advice, don't speak, they talk in pictures and music
All the rest is BS, we do not need priests (male or women), channelers, intermediaries of any sort. Facilitators and shamans perhaps but only if they do not try to control
No transcended being will suggest that one's body or senses are "bad". We are here with a body and we have senses to use them. Life is it
Just some random thoughts
Thanks for posting, I enjoy your posts.
No transcended being will suggest that one's body or senses are "bad". We are here with a body and we have senses to use them. Life is it
I would like to know what kind of beings you mention , but hooman body senses are not perfect in Kali Yuga. Even subtle body- mind.
There was experimenet done by doctor with a group of people. In one closed room the game was for same to play role of prisoners and for some to play role as quards. In a few days later it was so nasty that they had to stop the experiment right away. People mind can become bad in some circumstances, it depends on circumstances. So i agree that self control if tought from childhood would solve a lot of problems on our beloved earth, including greed, unnessesary desires, cheating would go away, angry and envy qualities would melt.
I will try to find excelent message to post
Dogs do not need 10 amendments.
We saw what demonic people do with animals.
So senses are very very very important...!! At least to know who we are, right?
my 2 cents
devakas
Perhaps my experience is different. Through life I have tried many techniques given by gurus, no disrespect intended, but none of them can compare with sitting under a tree and whole heartily embracing the space with all that one is
Our senses are only flawed because we are forcing ourselves to live in the illusionary matrix called "society" and "consumerism". We no longer have time to smell the bluebells (in season now) or admire life coming back to the land. When we sinc with nature, there is nothing wrong with our senses. We can walk, see almost on a 360 panorama, listen to the birds singing, smell the perfume of Earth, plants, flowers and trees all at the same time. The forest does it for you, it opens your senses if one stops thinking and start just observing
There is also the expansion of time, one hour in the forest living with all our senses is like 4 hours of matrix time. Intense, invigorating, soul expanding
Just this morning I went to a RSPCA wood and stumbled into a part I have not seen before. I can not begin to explain the symphony of colour, aroma and beauty there was. The trees in early leaves and a sea of bluebells. I have seen bluebells in my life but this was so pristine, so profound that I could only feel gratitude for the opportunity to be the witness of such perfection. There are no words that can explain it. Nothing in the matrix that can be compared to
When I am in the woods, it does not matter who I believe I am as a social being, what I am wearing, whether I am hungry or not, whether I have money or not, whether people like me or not. I am part of the forest, I am part of mother Earth. What is new in the forest co-exist with the decay that feeds it, fallen trees and new trees. New branches growing out of fallen trees, seasonal plants that last few weeks out of a whole year, colours that are continuously changing and the natural rythm where animals eat animals. All part of life in perfect balance
The other beings I speak about are our ancestors with whom as humanity we have lost contact. In the past people were in touch with their ancestors for guidance. The ancestors have never abandon us, we have abandoned them, believing that we know better which is why is all out of balance. Without our memory of the ancestors there is no responsibility for the present or the future which explains why the world is in such self-destructive frenzie now
As social beings we have become ungrounded. Being ungrounded we feel we do not belong, we feel unloved and unwanted. Yet mother Earth love us, with a love that is gentle and supportive but we have learned to ignore her
Going back to nature puts things into perspective, make us question who we realy are and why we want what we think we want, it is all there free and ready for anyone that wants to remember who they are. No strings attached, no bills, no pay back if you don't want to pay back. No need for phds to tell us what to do, we know, is all in the DNA
Maybe our ancestors do not want to contact us anymore because we are killing others, maybe we became too much involved in the loop of cycle of life. I thought and thought… I still had thoughts why we are capable to change ourselves in different circumstances.
ceridwen wrote:Thank you for that Floyd, very interesting. It appears that in the late 1800's to early 1900's there was a push towards eugenics headed by the I AM movement in its many forms
It is really shocking
Perhaps all can be tracked to the Knights of the White Camelia? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_of_the_White_Camelia
Floyd wrote:ceridwen wrote:Thank you for that Floyd, very interesting. It appears that in the late 1800's to early 1900's there was a push towards eugenics headed by the I AM movement in its many forms
It is really shocking
Perhaps all can be tracked to the Knights of the White Camelia? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_of_the_White_Camelia
Hello. In what sense do you call them an I Am cult? There are overlaps with ballardism ufoism and eugenics. It is rather convienient that the emerging racial protection philosophies in the US where dressed up in templar or ufo guise. There is more info on its later neo templar format in europe (ie proto solar temple)in the white supremacist thread.
It is no suprise to learn that some of the leading lights of eugenics were very wealthy familes such as kellog sadler and gamble.
In a ufo alienist sense it is traceable to the fascist inventions of pelley prior to later ufo cults such as the urantians,meiers or greens etc