The White Supremacist and fascist 'UFO Contactees'

Sanicle wrote:I've been mulling over this debate about Billy Meier some more and it's really confusing. I studied Billy's work myself years ago and was very impressed with what he had to present, so much so that when the smear campaign started I was happy to believe that the dodgy photos etc were put out to discredit him. I can also believe that his ex-wife could be part of that smear as I find it hard to believe that she could have connected the UFO image with the dust-bin lid (or whatever it was) unless she was in on the set-up and it's use in the photos herself. But that's beside the point.

I would really like to ask you Lionhawk, with respect, why you think Billy would have presented that 'Talmud of Jmmanuel' document. That's the point here really. Do you think he may have been compromised, mind-controlled or what? From what I read in the past, his Plejaran friends were there to protect him constantly from being shot and so on, so I would have assumed they'd be able to protect him from being mind-controlled or whatever as well. Can you give us your view on the Talmud document to us at all? Please? Maybe then understanding will come.

Delta (1/2 - 4 cycles per second) Delta is associated with deep sleep, this pattern is very slow, however, this brain waves pattern is important for the explorer of consciousness , the EEG is no help to grade, when occur X or Y in the delta range. If you work to merge with the mass consciousness of our planet you need to work in delta, the first step will be to learn to be conscious in your dreams, you can do that, you can go further in the exploration. Astral projection or Out of Body experience occurs in Delta. The EEG will not be able to really measure in what state you are in, because, it is not a sophisticated machine. http://www.psychic101.com/brainwaves-beta-alpha-delta.html

Hence the visit that Lionhawk speaks of. Now most aliens are of an advanced intelligence but they do make mistakes. One I can site right off the top of my head and having their guard down and getting shot down was in Roswell eh? So it's very likely the Plejarens let their guard down with Billy and he got compromised. The TJ is not something from an alien species or higher intelligence I think we all know this. We also know much of the channeled material that is out is of a "spiritual nature" and hooking the public in a big way with the NEW AGE concepts as a primary goal of what I call entrapment. I also don't discount all of the making of some NEW AGE material...just in how it's used and abused to control and distract and remove people from finding real solutions. That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.. But when it comes to this mind control version of a frequency sort it's very real and very dangerous if implemented in an implant. fortunately we've been warned about the idea and dangers of implants that are now being suggested for the last few years...but it's very real and a technologically proven method of mind control.

Now if we can only get free from that frequency......

burgundia wrote:Brook, do those two streams have any impact on other living creatures, animals for example?

orthodoxymoron wrote:Today, I'm relistening to Bill Ryan and the 'Anglo-Saxon Mission'. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rw4z-rSwNjY&skipcontrinter=1 Should this video be trusted regarding honesty and accuracy? Do meetings like this really take place? What sort of high-level meetings really take place throughout the solar system? I wonder if I would be able to remain sane if I attended these meetings. I have spoken of wishing to have access to these meetings, as a fly on the wall, but what madness would I descend into if I actually took it all in? If I actually took the elevator to the top, and associated with the creme de la creme of solar system governance, I might not like the view. I've recently been trying to center a lot of my thinking in England in general, and the City of London in particular. What would it really be like to be a City of London Insider? Does the Ryan video fit in with this thread? I obviously know a lot more about Western Civilization than say China, Russia, Africa, the Middle-East, etc. -- so most of my posts have been somewhat Americentric. I am white, and I do have a sense of self-preservation, but I wish to be protective of all nations and races. Where is the proper balance in all of this?

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Sanicle wrote:I've been mulling over this debate about Billy Meier some more and it's really confusing. I studied Billy's work myself years ago and was very impressed with what he had to present, so much so that when the smear campaign started I was happy to believe that the dodgy photos etc were put out to discredit him. I can also believe that his ex-wife could be part of that smear as I find it hard to believe that she could have connected the UFO image with the dust-bin lid (or whatever it was) unless she was in on the set-up and it's use in the photos herself. But that's beside the point.

I would really like to ask you Lionhawk, with respect, why you think Billy would have presented that 'Talmud of Jmmanuel' document. That's the point here really. Do you think he may have been compromised, mind-controlled or what? From what I read in the past, his Plejaran friends were there to protect him constantly from being shot and so on, so I would have assumed they'd be able to protect him from being mind-controlled or whatever as well. Can you give us your view on the Talmud document to us at all? Please? Maybe then understanding will come.

Hi Sanicle! I'd like to answer that if I may. I've been doing lots of research on this subject. Not necessarily Billy Meier...but 'mind control' and how it works. Ever since I discovered two energy streams running an unnatural frequency I've had to. I've also found I'm not the only one who has discovered this. As I discovered two, the lower one I found contained lots of information of a persuasive sort. Mostly of a religious context as well. That's where I discovered the "Michael program" titled 'Merovingian" and if you've had any type of religious upbringing of a strict orthodox background.....and have an experience of the extra sensory sort you may very well run into it. This is just an example....and I found while doing this research that this Colleen Thomas was hit by this frequency big time. Hence AA Michael piloting her spaceship and the huge repent content in her messages. Now her handler was a very savvy published physicist ( who I also have provided a picture of the two of them together) who also works for the DOD and SARA (research center for the DOD)...developing all sorts of non lethal warfare applications in the use of not only remote viewing but implanted memory and suggestion through frequency via brain to skull technology. This is not fantasy...this is fact. And he worked with some BIG players and still does for that matter.

In this research Ufology along with the implementation of source spirituality has been introduced. Hence the implanting of the "nine" at Esalen Institute. Again by some VERY big players. If you're not familiar with the nine...google it to see what I'm speaking of. They are a group of extra terrestrials that 'channel' through certain individuals. And again they are an IMPLANT. Verified and discussed by the head physicist and director of Esalen Institute who worked with such forms of consciousness manipulation since the early 60's. His name...Jack Sarfatti. Who also happened to be associated and close to Colleen Thomas who was a guinea pig for a current program use. Then discarded...as she is now just a statistic.

In the case of billy Meier.....here you have a guy who claims contact since the age of five. Has had numerous life threatening attacks and is now siting the TJ. Prior to the TJ....he was reportedly "directed" to go to the place where he met with an EX GREEK ORTHODOX PRIEST to discover the TJ. Keep in mind if he had a strict religious upbringing he would surely trust a PRIEST of this sort and bam! He's a victim. Then he leaves the TJ with the priest to translate and later he edits it. Now apparently it's around this time he gets compromised or as Lionhawk terms it "suppressed". His information needed to be discounted as a hoax so what better way then to tap into his psyche and tap into his most likely religious upbringing and bring some 'sacred texts' to discredit him. I suspect his ex wife was also a handler of sorts and you have Michael Horn and this EX priest doing a big number on him. Remember he met his wife in the same town I believe it's been reported as he found the "sacred texts" and met up with the ex Greek Orthodox priest. slip in some fake photos among the docs and steal some which has also been reported by billy and you have one hell of a conspiracy. Better yet you have a contactee who has now been discounted via his own words. Very convenient.....clean work and well done. Only experts could pull that off. Ones with the background that I have sited in the previous paragraph. Experts in the field of consciousness.

Now you ask why the Plejarens have not protected him. Everybody can make mistakes it doesn't matter who you are. Apparently somehow billy got compromised and in his consciousness believe this TJ was a real document. In fact so much so he was also programmed to edit it to fit his religious upbringing which I suspect was strict and Orthodox. somehow the Plejarens slipped up . And to try to assist him now could result in some serious brain damage as this is a highly profound technology that can in fact short circuit the brain. So there is not much they can do now to protect him. because understand this.....these PTB types these elites that have control of him now are powerful as well and they can at any time do him in. but he is also now a TOOL for discredit to the field of Ufology. So he servers a purpose now. And Michael Horn is there to protect that aspect. Keep the fires burning on this as it were. So for the time being Billy is safe in the hands of the bad guys so to speak.

Now I also suspect strongly he still has contact. It would be in the Delta state as EEG cannot be detected there and he would be safe. However he cannot recognize this either in a waking state. Delta state would be the only type of contact that wound be safe....

Delta (1/2 - 4 cycles per second) Delta is associated with deep sleep, this pattern is very slow, however, this brain waves pattern is important for the explorer of consciousness , the EEG is no help to grade, when occur X or Y in the delta range. If you work to merge with the mass consciousness of our planet you need to work in delta, the first step will be to learn to be conscious in your dreams, you can do that, you can go further in the exploration. Astral projection or Out of Body experience occurs in Delta. The EEG will not be able to really measure in what state you are in, because, it is not a sophisticated machine. http://www.psychic101.com/brainwaves-beta-alpha-delta.html

Hence the visit that Lionhawk speaks of. Now most aliens are of an advanced intelligence but they do make mistakes. One I can site right off the top of my head and having their guard down and getting shot down was in Roswell eh? So it's very likely the Plejarens let their guard down with Billy and he got compromised. The TJ is not something from an alien species or higher intelligence I think we all know this. We also know much of the channeled material that is out is of a "spiritual nature" and hooking the public in a big way with the NEW AGE concepts as a primary goal of what I call entrapment. I also don't discount all of the making of some NEW AGE material...just in how it's used and abused to control and distract and remove people from finding real solutions. That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.. But when it comes to this mind control version of a frequency sort it's very real and very dangerous if implemented in an implant. fortunately we've been warned about the idea and dangers of implants that are now being suggested for the last few years...but it's very real and a technologically proven method of mind control.

Now if we can only get free from that frequency......

Have you guys and gals considered that there is this chance that everybody spoke the truth but in the meantime got contacted by agencies who basically told them that if they continue like they intended they will be in deep trouble(death threats,and such) so they quietly eluded or watered their message during time...

Lionhawk wrote:Floyd, have you ever been to Germany?

Lionhawk wrote:
More to come.....You know why Floyd?...... Because I have decided not to give up on you.


Namaste'

Lionhawk wrote: you have also twisted the facts in your threads. Just so that you appear to be in control of what you consider to be righteous, while doing so with second hand methods. This is a very deceptive practice in my opinion. Also lacks integrity.
What about Forced Sterilization? Is that out of reason?

Lionhawk wrote: Like walking on glass. Say it this way. Damn if you do or damn if you don't.

Billy Meier is still alive. Is that a sin or what? Based on a passed list. Is that a kill list too? Ain't no different than killing Floyd's the nutters and everything else Floyd typed out. Killing is still killing. And as history does validate, many a killing field was perpetrated through the second hand propaganda machine.

Agaim I would stress being apologetic or making excuses for these people and their miserable religions and philosophy.

There is nothing credible about Meier

Floyd wrote:If there was a dark faction behind the agenda this little shop of horrors are promoting they wouldnt be getting any support from me.

Truth is simple I have come to believe. The beauty of nature can teach us nearly everything we know.

A lot of the metaphysical stuff schools cults and societies teach etc, especially the paid for variety, is just convoluted and unnecessary IMO.

It may be there are some friendly evolved beings out there but its not this lot in this thread.