The White Supremacist and fascist 'UFO Contactees'

and here I was worried about the One World Bank.

Sanicle wrote:

I have also heard so many comments in this thread that would make you believe the world is still flat. All I can say is that it is all about awareness. The field of awareness we each surround ourselves with. That is usually indicative of what the sum of experiences we have experienced. That is the only difference in essence.

The conflict begins when that awareness is not equally shared in that conversation[/b]. Again because of the awareness issue which falls back to experience. That's okay as long as one of the parties doesn't use their hard head as a spiritual tool. LOL

Honestly Lionhawk, do you even realize how condescending and patronizing some of your posts sound? And you wonder why people get their hackles up! Do you also realize that there's quite a few of your posts in which you've contradicted yourself, making arguments that could be picked to pieces? And also that people may not be doing it out of respect for you and because they just don't want to get down to that level with you when you do it to Floyd?

And No, I'm not going to get into that with you or Brook. You just frustrate me so much when you go on like this that I just had to finally say it....for everyone's sake!

I hope people get their hackles up. I hope folks are totally awake when it comes to these issues. I hope folks respond. How is it I am being condescending when some folks are pissing on my feet and yet telling me it is raining? On one hand telling me the earth is flat when I know it isn't. And when I speak of awareness and experience as showing that as the difference, how is that condescending? You are defending Floyd. So be it. But I ask are you helping him or hurting him by doing that? If you knew the truth and as to how much time I have spent trying to broaden his perspective on these issues, you would take a breathe and chill out. I'm not his enemy. But at the same time I am trying to wake up an apple tree that forgot to produce apples by slamming it with a ball bat, so that it can produce once more. So while you defend him, and I am not discouraging that, please keep in mind what my intentions are. Maybe you didn't know what they are. And if you want to prove out your statements, go for it. You will learn differently, I assure you. Pick it to pieces if that is what you must do. It has all been done before. Nothing new there. In the meantime..........I was going to address your earlier posting in a civilized way.......but now things have gotten off track. Sorry for that.

On another note, these issues will only bring you much discord and persecution. Ask anyone who has traveled this road before. I'm done with the persecution, make no mistake about that.

Sorry Sanicle, but what has happened here was not for the right reasons. I had full intention of explaining those reasons and the whys as to why I am responding to Floyd's thread. But after this derailment, I will just do you a special favor and exit out of this thread. No drama needed. Chow!

Raie wrote:Brook, a quick google search of the words you "quoted yourself" with reveals a body of text plagiarised from an essay called "Hamlets Mill"

In fact it is not the first time I have done this with things you have written, and it is not the first time I have found it plagiarised.
The one that made me laugh (from one of your now deleted posts) was "Genesis, meaning gene of isis" - which was also plagiarised.

If you want to be taken seriously as a writer or researcher you should reference the material you use. It may seem like a small point but it is important I think, which is why I have mentioned it.

Floyd man, this is a great thread.

Raie.

Welcome to the Mists Raie

Brook, I remember that it was a whole paragraph, or more, that was written on the "gene of isis" that was taken from a website and changed slightly. That is plagiarism, the presenting of other peoples work or ideas as your own. No link police here.

So you think it a 'fact' that 'Genesis' means the 'gene of isis'? Have to disagree there!

Raie

Thanks Floyd, as I said this is a great thread there should be more like it.

Yes, welcome from me too Raie. Hope you enjoy your time here. Sounds like you've been viewing for quite a while so you're well aware that we are all really friends.......with opinions haha.

Yes Sanicle friends. Like Floyd and others I am also very concerned about people who are being deliberatley misled and harmed.

Raie wrote:Yes Sanicle friends. Like Floyd and others I am also very concerned about people who are being deliberately misled and harmed.

Some stuff,on this thread, well actually all of it Raie, comes close to the bone...and some dont like it.

Hatonn

" listen to the sound of my Nazi voice " not

lmfao

If you would to know where hate stems from in the us then look no further.

Alabama
Clio
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Decatur
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Munford
· National Socialist Movement
Neo-Nazi
Alaska
Anchorage
· National Alliance
Neo-Nazi
Arizona
Florence
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi

· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Phoenix
· National Alliance
Neo-Nazi

· World Church of The Creator
Neo-Nazi
Arkansas
Brookland
· Aryan Nations-offshoot
Neo-Nazi
Little Rock
· National Alliance
Neo-Nazi
Magnolia
· Aryan Nations COJCC
Neo-Nazi
Russellville
· White Revolution
Neo-Nazi
Uniontown
· National Alliance
Neo-Nazi
California
Big Bear
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Calpella
· National Socialist Movement
Neo-Nazi
Corcoran
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Fallbrook
· White Aryan Resistance
Neo-Nazi
Fresno
· SS Enterprise
Neo-Nazi
Lancaster
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Long Beach
· Aryan Nations-offshoot
Neo-Nazi
Los Angeles
· National Socialist Movement
Neo-Nazi
Oakland
· National Alliance
Neo-Nazi
Orange Cove
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Redding
· National Socialist Movement
Neo-Nazi
Reseda
· National Socialist Movement
Neo-Nazi
Riverside
· National Alliance
Neo-Nazi
Sacramento
· National Alliance
Neo-Nazi
San Diego
· National Socialist Movement
Neo-Nazi
San Francisco
· National Socialist Movement
Neo-Nazi
Sunland
· Aryan Nations COJCC
Neo-Nazi
Tehachapi
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Van Nuys
· National Alliance
Neo-Nazi
Colorado
Aurora
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Denver
· National Alliance
Neo-Nazi
Connecticut
Clinton
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Hartford
· National Alliance
Neo-Nazi
Middlebury
· World Church of The Creator
Neo-Nazi
Wallingford
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Florida
Bradenton
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Century
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Clearwater
· World Church of The Creator
Neo-Nazi
Davie
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Defuniak Springs
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Ft. Lauderdale
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Gainesville
· National Alliance
Neo-Nazi
Indiantown
· World Church of The Creator
Neo-Nazi
Lake Park
· National Socialist Movement
Neo-Nazi
Lake Worth
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Lakeland
· National Socialist Movement
Neo-Nazi
Milton
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Monticello
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Okeechobee
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Orlando
· National Alliance
Neo-Nazi
Oviedo
· Aryan Nations-offshoot
Neo-Nazi
Palm Beach County
· Aryan Werwulfe Brotherhood
Neo-Nazi
Pensacola
· German American Nationalist PAC
Neo-Nazi
Perry
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Plant City
· National Alliance
Neo-Nazi
Punta Gorda
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Raiford
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
St Petersburg
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Georgia
Atlanta
· National Alliance
Neo-Nazi
Atlanta
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Bonaire
· National Socialist Movement
Neo-Nazi
Columbus
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Dahlonega
· National Alliance
Neo-Nazi
Idaho
Boise
· National Alliance
Neo-Nazi
Coeur d'Alene
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Hayden
· National Alliance
Neo-Nazi
Hayden Lake
· Aryan Nations
Neo-Nazi
Notus
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Post Falls
· National Socialist Movement
Neo-Nazi
Illinois
Bloomington
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Chicago
· National Alliance
Neo-Nazi

· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Creve Coeur
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Deerfield
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Downers Grove
· National Alliance
Neo-Nazi
East Peoria
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Joliet
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Park Ridge
· World Church of The Creator
Neo-Nazi
Pontiac
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Indiana
Goshen
· National Socialist Movement
Neo-Nazi
Indianapolis
· National Socialist Movement
Neo-Nazi

· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Wakarusa
· National Socialist Movement
Neo-Nazi
Iowa
Cedar Falls
· National Socialist Movement
Neo-Nazi
Kansas
Hutchinson
· National Socialist Movement
Neo-Nazi
Scandia
· National Socialist Movement
Neo-Nazi
Kentucky
Lancaster
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Prospect
· Aryan Nations-offshoot
Neo-Nazi
Louisiana
Arabi
· Christian Defense League
Neo-Nazi

· Sons of Liberty
Neo-Nazi
West Wego
· Aryan Nations
Neo-Nazi
Maine
Matinicus Island
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Maryland
Baltimore
· National Alliance
Neo-Nazi
Bryans Road
· Aryan Nations-offshoot
Neo-Nazi
Cumberland
· Aryan Nations
Neo-Nazi

· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Edgewater
· SS Regalia
Neo-Nazi
Hagerstown
· National Alliance
Neo-Nazi
Lavale
· Aryan Nations
Neo-Nazi
Massachusetts
Boston
· National Alliance
Neo-Nazi

· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Cape Cod
· National Alliance
Neo-Nazi
Peabody
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
South Walpole
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Sterling
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Sutton
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Michigan
Detroit
· National Alliance
Neo-Nazi
Eastpointe
· American Nazi Party
Neo-Nazi
Kalamazoo
· National Alliance
Neo-Nazi
Petoskey
· National Alliance
Neo-Nazi
Plymouth
· National Alliance
Neo-Nazi
Redford
· National Socialist Movement
Neo-Nazi
Minnesota
Grove City
· National Socialist Movement
Neo-Nazi
Hutchinson
· National Socialist Movement
Neo-Nazi
Minneapolis
· National Socialist Movement
Neo-Nazi
Park Rapids
· National Socialist Movement
Neo-Nazi
Mississippi
Collinsville
· National Socialist Movement
Neo-Nazi
Raymond
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Missouri
Archie
· National Socialist Movement
Neo-Nazi
St. Louis
· National Alliance
Neo-Nazi
Nebraska
Lincoln
· National Socialist German Workers Party
Neo-Nazi
Nevada
Fallon
· National Socialist Movement
Neo-Nazi
Henderson
· National Alliance
Neo-Nazi
Las Vegas
· National Alliance
Neo-Nazi
Reno
· Aryan Nations
Neo-Nazi

· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
New Hampshire

· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Hampton Beach
· Aryan Nations
Neo-Nazi
New Jersey
Bordentown
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Hamilton
· World Church of the Creator/Sisterhood of the WCOTC
Neo-Nazi
Hewitt
· National Alliance
Neo-Nazi
Island Heights
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Livingston
· Aryan Renaissance Society
Neo-Nazi

· National Socialist Movement
Neo-Nazi
Montville
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Mt. Holly
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Newark
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
North Bergen
· Aryan Nations-offshoot
Neo-Nazi
Oaklyn
· National Socialist Movement
Neo-Nazi
Trenton
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
New Mexico
El Prado
· National Socialist Movement
Neo-Nazi
Rio Rancho
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
New York
Brooklyn
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
New York
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Syracuse
· National Socialist Movement
Neo-Nazi
Wantagh
· Aryan Nations-offshoot
Neo-Nazi
Warwick
· National Socialist Movement
Neo-Nazi
North Carolina
Benson
· National Alliance
Neo-Nazi
Charlotte
· National Alliance
Neo-Nazi
Cullowhee
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Greensboro
· National Socialist Movement
Neo-Nazi
Marshville
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Raleigh
· National Alliance
Neo-Nazi
Ohio
Akron
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Cleveland
· National Alliance
Neo-Nazi

· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Columbus
· National Socialist Movement
Neo-Nazi
Lakewood
· National Socialist Movement
Neo-Nazi
Lisbon
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Mansfield
· National Socialist Movement
Neo-Nazi
Oklahoma
Chickasha
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Oregon
Portland
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
The Dalles
· National Socialist Vanguard
Neo-Nazi
Pennsylvania
Bethlehem
· National Socialist Movement
Neo-Nazi
Greensburg
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Harrisburg
· National Alliance
Neo-Nazi
Leola
· Aryan Nations-offshoot
Neo-Nazi
Philadelphia
· National Alliance
Neo-Nazi

· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Pittsburgh
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Reading
· National Alliance
Neo-Nazi
Ulysses
· Aryan Nations-offshoot
Neo-Nazi
York
· National Alliance
Neo-Nazi

· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Rhode Island

· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
South Carolina
Edgefield
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Enoree
· National Socialist Movement
Neo-Nazi
South Dakota
Rapid City
· Aryan Nations
Neo-Nazi
Tennessee
Chattanooga
· National Alliance
Neo-Nazi
Memphis
· National Alliance
Neo-Nazi
Nashville
· National Alliance
Neo-Nazi
Ramer
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Sequatchie
· National Socialist Movement
Neo-Nazi
Woodlawn
· Aryan Nations-offshoot
Neo-Nazi
Texas
Austin
· National Alliance
Neo-Nazi

· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Dallas/Fort Worth
· National Alliance
Neo-Nazi
Fort Worth
· Aryan Renaissance Society
Neo-Nazi
Groveton
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Houston
· National Alliance
Neo-Nazi
Huffman
· Aryan Nations-offshoot
Neo-Nazi
Hurst
· Aryan Nations COJCC
Neo-Nazi
LaMarque
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Lubbock
· National Socialist Movement
Neo-Nazi
Utah
Ogden
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Salt Lake City
· National Alliance
Neo-Nazi
Virginia
Herndon
· National Alliance
Neo-Nazi
Newport News
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Pound
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Suffolk
· Aryan Nations-offshoot
Neo-Nazi
Washington
Port Angeles
· National Socialist Movement
Neo-Nazi
Port Hadlock
· National Socialist Movement
Neo-Nazi
Seattle/Tacoma
· National Alliance
Neo-Nazi
Vancouver
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Yelm
· National Socialist Movement
Neo-Nazi
West Virginia
Hillsboro
· National Alliance
Neo-Nazi
Reedy
· Liberty Bell Publications
Neo-Nazi
Wisconsin
Cudahy
· National Socialist Movement
Neo-Nazi

· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Kenosha
· National Alliance
Neo-Nazi
Mercer
· Aryan Nations
Neo-Nazi

· National Socialist Movement
Neo-Nazi
Milwaukee
· New Order
Neo-Nazi

· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Racine
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi
Wyoming
Cheyenne
· Inter-National Socialist Party
Neo-Nazi
Riverton
· World Church of the Creator
Neo-Nazi

If you are in doubt, just ask Hatonn above

"You must remember this,
A list is just a list,

A file is just a file.."

Groups Promoting Oppression or Right-Wing Agendas


http://www.publiceye.org/research/directories/dem_grp_undermine.html

And before I have to listen to anyone's high and mighty bullshit..no..I am not a socialist or a communist.

I am however a humanist in the best sense of the word.
Love and kisses
F

Raie wrote:Brook, I remember that it was a whole paragraph, or more, that was written on the "gene of isis" that was taken from a website and changed slightly. That is plagiarism, the presenting of other peoples work or ideas as your own. No link police here.

So you think it a 'fact' that 'Genesis' means the 'gene of isis'? Have to disagree there!

Raie

That may very well be...as lot's of things on my thread have been referenced. That included. So everyone is entitled to their opinion....on neo Nazi things I would agree as I have already once...having a Jewish name is not easy around a bunch of Nazis eh? That would be me you know? I have a Jewish name and get a little skiddish around Nazis. To paint a whole plethora of things in this light is a real shame too.

As for Genesis....

genesis [ˈdʒɛnɪsɪs]
n pl -ses [-ˌsiːz]
a beginning or originof anything
[Old English: via Latin from Greek; related to Greek gignesthai to be born]

If were are not of our genes...what are we?

gene
   noun
the basic physical unit of heredity; a linear sequence of nucleotides along a segment of DNA that provides the coded instructions for synthesis of RNA, which, when translated into protein, leads to the expression of hereditary character.
Origin:
1911; < German Gen (1909), apparently abstracted from -gen -gen; introduced by Danish geneticist Wilhelm L. Johannsen (1857–1927)

Or...you could believe in the Black veiled Isis Myth.....And don't bust me eh...I don't know who wrote this...it was shared with me....LOL




It's not the GENES of Isis...but the coding that needs to be paid attention to. Or perhaps you prefer to believe we all came from the great apes? Then again we do have that reptilian brain stem....Evolution is such a great debate eh?

The father of fascist contacteeism William Dudley Pelley

Guy and Edna in white with St Germain

sorry double post

Disciples of St Germain

Fraudsters and right wing bigots Like Ballard above

Ex bishop of the Church Universal and Triumphant and disciple of St. Germain

Again dressed in pure white

No surprises clothed in white
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No St Germain this time but the usual crap of we are right, everyone else is wrong and you have to pay us.

Innocente, disciple of the white supremacist con man Ballard

Get it yet?

But hang on a minute..If these guys are working for St Germain...then who is Charles working for.
Not the same St Germain behind this lot?

There can be only one. Perhaps I should write to them.

Templar Nazi occult groups infiltrated.

Interesting piece. This snippet about Luc Jouret's, (student of nazi and Disciple of St Germain and other Masters of Agartha,Julien Origas) Solar Temple



The Knights of the Extreme Right
Many secret societies, including those aimed at nurturing the spiritual enlightenment of their members, have been infiltrated by intelligence agencies for the purposes of grooming terrorists and fulfilling nefarious political agendas.

....subject, Secret d’Etat? (“State Secret?”), he explains where his lines of enquiry have taken him. For example, it has become clear that police and investigators purposefully neglected clues that showed that unknown persons aided if not executed the “collective suicides” (which, in France, took place in 1995). Trails suggesting that several hundreds of millions of dollars were moved from OTS bank accounts into what appears to have been Australia were intentionally not followed up during the investigation. Specifically, Fusier has identified that key figures within the OTS had direct links and access to the then French Interior Minister Charles Pasqua. Indeed, in the final weeks of the OTS’s existence, members claimed and complained that they had been “infiltrated”, and just before their deaths they sent their passports to Pasqua, apparently claiming that they felt he was responsible for what was about to happen. But how could a cult hold the Minister of the Interior responsible for deaths that were officially of their own doing?
The theory of collective suicides has also been heavily contested by Alain Vuarnet, René and Muguette Rostan, Willy and Giséla Schleimer, who are relatives of the victims, and Dr Alain Leclerc, their lawyer. Their investigation has uncovered one document, a copy of a letter of 21 April 1997, addressed by a lawyer’s office to a bank, concerning the distribution of 17 million French francs (about 2.5 millions euros) between various personalities and political parties, the OTS and the Rosicrucian Order AMORC (Ancient Mystical Order Rosae Crucis). In his demand for a further investigation, Dr Leclerc (quoted by Fusier) wrote: “If the document is true, it shows that the Order of the Solar Temple was in activity after the last March 22, 1997 massacre [in Quebec, Canada] and that the leaders of this organisation are still alive.” The court refused to investigate the letter.
If the OTS’s demise was a “state secret”, what was going on? Author François-Xavier Verschave has argued that the “collective suicides” were connected to Gladio, the secret NATO stay-behind network in Italy. Verschave may be echoing the opinions of Dr Jean-Marie Abgrall, an expert who was used during the investigations into the OTS and who was accused of violating these secret investigations as he spoke out of turn. He was not the only expert who was frustrated with the level of secrecy and the desire to bring some of this information into the media spotlight: another was French esoteric journalist Jean-Luc Chaumeil.
Abgrall repeatedly stated, in declarations to Le Point and Nice-Matin in February 2003, that the Renewed Order of the Temple (Ordre Rénové du Temple, or ORT) cult, the ancestor of the OTS and created in 1968, had relations with the Gladio network. Abgrall added that there were further relationships between AMORC, of which he was once a member, and the French networks in Africa, the so-called “Foccart network”. According to Fusier, Abgrall concluded that “the Order of the Solar Temple, as well as AMORC and the ORT, was created and controlled by French and foreign secret services”.
Other researchers have concluded that Luc Jouret, head of the OTS, co-operated with the far-right Belgian activist Jean-François Thiriart. In the 1970s, they founded an organisation whose goal it was to organise a split in the Communist Party of Belgium, forming the Parti Communautaire Européen, which then became the Parti Communautaire National-Européen. Bruno Fouchereau, author of La mafia des sectes and a writer for Le Monde Diplomatique, has alleged that this Belgium “Nazi-Maoist group” was actually controlled by the SDRA8, Belgium’s branch of Gladio...

In 1975, Origas also held a series of meetings in Brussels, where he said that he saw that year as the beginning of a new era and the creation of a new super-race.




http://www.philipcoppens.com/stateterrorism_2.html

Origas was in direct contact with St. Germain according to him.

It is interesting to note in this context, that the Norwegian white supremacist and racist killer Anders Breivik claimed that he was part of the Knights Templar Europe or Norway (a movement I am not sure exists or not) as well as attempting to associate himself with the neo nazi EDL (English Defense League) a spin off from the National Front and BNP (British National Party) which consists of largely football hooligans sent in to stir up racial hatred among the working classes via football violence and gang wars in working class estates predominately in the North of England and particularly in Lancashire and Yorkshire. The EDL has been infiltrated both by British and Israeli intelligence, the latter causing a huge rift in the group, splitting it between the traditional neo nazi and the muslim hating pro Israeli.
All of these groups were influenced by the Nazis and contactee William Dudley Pelley and those he in turn inspired. In fact the EDL did have support from prominent conservative Jewish groups at one stage. It is obvious an attempt has been made to neutralise the neo nazi element in far right white supremacist groups giving some people the false impression that they are one and the same.

Breivik's killing spree in Norway may well have been sponsored by a right wing backed crypto masonic Templar Group but it cannot be ruled out that he was indeed a lone nut with pretensions to be part of this white supremacist European Templar Network. It could well be he was a psychopath acting alone under the duress of his religion and politics of hate that most psychopaths are inspired by in this dark domain.It is an area these unfortunate creatures seem to excel in.


In this equally interesting article below we see how intelligence groups like the CIA have used other so called new age and esoteric groups to fulfill a dark agenda. This really is a good read on mind control using cults as a medium.
http://www.raven1.net/mcf/mindnet/mn116a.htm


One thing is for certain however, is that Julian Origas was a part of several Templar groups with neo nazi connections and we are interested in him because he was working under the orders of St Germain. An ancient being operating out of his underground base.

Floyd wrote:Breivik's killing spree in Norway may well have been sponsored by a right wing backed crypto masonic Templar Group but it cannot be ruled out that he was indeed a lone nut with pretensions to be part of this white supremacist European Templar Network. It could well be he was a psychopath acting alone under the duress of his religion and politics of hate that most psychopaths are inspired by in this dark domain.

If he was alone he makes all the other gun totting crazies look like rank amateurs, compared to any other such event, say columbine, he was unbelievably efficient as a killer, that island was a lot bigger than a school.

So unbelievably efficient that I don't believe for one minute he was alone, how could someone be more lethal than elite special forces by playing video games alone ?

I think he had training, aid in procuring equipment, and accomplices.

The strange fact that his "manifesto" was the same as the unabombers hints at him being a mind controlled operative, and the fact that no one noticed anything odd about his behaviour prior to the attack would indicate that a 'switch' was thrown in his mind.

Why did the police take so long to respond ? Its the little things that make up the circumstantial evidence to events like this, like how he just gave himself up to the police thinking he would be hailed as a hero.

The problem is that no groups are saying that he was affiliated with them. The Knights Templar Europe does not exist and I think the even EDL were a little bemused by him. That is why it cannot be fully ruled out he was a lone mothers boy nut with a fascination with arms and Templar Militia.

On the other hand, it is also plausible that he was indeed used by an esoteric Knights Templar group. Perhaps the order came direct from St Germain himself or one of his subjects?

I would love to be a fly on the wall in that police station.


For your interest, here is listing of various Templar Groups .

Cheers.


Templar Groups

Floyd wrote:.
In this equally interesting article below we see how intelligence groups like the CIA have used other so called new age and esoteric groups to fulfill a dark agenda. This really is a good read on mind control using cults as a medium.
http://www.raven1.net/mcf/mindnet/mn116a.htm

For your interest, here is listing of various Templar Groups .

Cheers.


Templar Groups

Very interesting finds, I've bookmarked both of them for reference, I've been dibbing in & out of this thread for some time, as some of the strands are pertinant to my own experiences / path, and I definately think there is a lot of truth behind the mumbo jumbo, to do with bloodlines, re-incarnation & UFOs', as well as covert agendas, hidden occult groups, black projects and double bluff "charletans" to blurr truth & fiction.

I think that in recent times a lot of these "Templar" groups are on a sliding scale from dodgy occult groups to social clubs in capes, that said there is a wealth of symbology and mystery that is perfect for exploitation by mind control "agencies", either to embed & obscure "missions" or to create false memories to hide some thing else.