The White Supremacist and fascist 'UFO Contactees'

Floyd wrote:

Lionhawk wrote:The reason being is that you have not extended your mind beyond the 3D. Most of what you are dealing with, if you go to the source of the dilemma, is beyond the 3D construct.

That's rather high and mighty of you but nothing short of what I expect.
Unfortunately most of the problems in the world exist on 3D.

You say your spirituality is questioned when all I see from you is the questioning of others.

There is evidence enough to link white supremacy and anti semitism with the contactees and St Germain and its all in this thread

If you choose to be blind to it then that's up to you.



Have a nice day.

Floyd wrote:The fact that the planet Hatonn belongs to one of the star-suns of the galactic system of Andromeda indicates the greater ageof this galaxy. The Universal Temple of Records is also located on Hatonn and only a world of great spiritual advancement could be so honored

http://www.scribd.com/doc/2499355/Other-Tongues-Other-Flesh-by-George-Hunt-Williamson

Lionhawk wrote:, "Unfortunately most of the problems in the world exist on 3D." Programmed from 4D. So in order to change the 3D, you have to change the programming in the 4D. Duh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You really haven't researched how this works? That's okay. I learn something everyday. At least now I know you are a program. Welcome to the Mists.

Brook wrote:

Floyd wrote:The fact that the planet Hatonn belongs to one of the star-suns of the galactic system of Andromeda indicates the greater ageof this galaxy. The Universal Temple of Records is also located on Hatonn and only a world of great spiritual advancement could be so honored

http://www.scribd.com/doc/2499355/Other-Tongues-Other-Flesh-by-George-Hunt-Williamson

If it walks talks and sounds like a duck it must be a duck......it sounds like a MYTH.

Floyd wrote:

Lionhawk wrote:, Floyd wrote, "Unfortunately most of the problems in the world exist on 3D."

Lionhawk wrote, "Programmed from 4D. So in order to change the 3D, you have to change the programming in the 4D. Duh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You really haven't researched how this works? That's okay. I learn something everyday. At least now I know you are a program. Welcome to the Mists.

4D is just as temporary and illusional as 3D and all the things that lie in it.
Dont be so obsessed with 4D.
Its ok. I still haven't given up hope on you. It is through the will and the consciousness of the human race that will decide the future of our planet. Not via any attempt of any 4D group or astral beings. A world in which hate and all its vehicles have no harbour.

Welcome to the mists indeed.

Floyd wrote:

Carol wrote:

Floyd wrote:

This post is dedicated to the bigots who follow this crap.

Becoming a bit cynical Floyd?

Cynical of ultra right wing, homophobic, racist, eugenic supporting, fascist, nazi bigots. Why of course I am. Are you not?
Cynical is not a word I would choose. Its a bit lightweight in all fairness. How about thoroughly disgusted? That sounds much much better.

As I said above, there are those who dont have a problem with Hatonn, the fascist contactess nor the white supremacism of Ballard and the St. Germain cults etc. many actively encourage these ideologies to the detriment of those who would suffer at its hands. As all of them wish to eliminate Jews they draw most of their support from the conspiracy movement as most conspiracy see Jews or Zionists as the root of the worlds problems. I think it unwise to hate an entire race of people and t see them as the soul problem in relation to the planets woes. That is incredibley naive and obsessive. Many in the conspiracy movement are unwilling to speak out or criticise these groups because they essentially embody many of their beliefs and that is why groups like these continue to manifest. Unfortunately, antisemitism and the extinction of Judaism and Zionism are not their only goals. They also wish to introduce policies of spiritual eugenics whereby non whites,the disabled and homosexuals would be depleted from the population. This isnt a joke it is really happening and its followers exist in all areas of human life. I dont see how having a laissez-faire attitude to these groups just because they hate Jews is useful. They have other agendas too.

St Germain, Green, Pelley, Willkiamson, Ballard, Meier,Bellringer, The Prophets,the Mighty I AM, right wing militia the pseudo Indians, Templar groups, Skinhead groups, hooligan groups, quasi mystical neo nazi groups, this is what they would wish for in their wildest dreams. Their alien and master kings would sit on thrones of power whilst their creeping minions carry their sorry arsed bidding. That is exactly what they want. Unfortunately, many 'new agers' who join these groups have absolutely no idea what they really stand for. That is one of the reasons why this thread is here. To shed some light on the real nature of these sinister ufo cults and St Germain cults..not to be cynical for the sake of it. One less hater in the world has to be good for the consciousness of the planet yes?

Do you think the blatant value judgements and hate filled stance against gay people and other minorities in the channelings of Hatonn of the Talmud of Jmannuel are acceptable for example. What about the exclusion of blacks from I AM meetings. How about their policy of total extermination of an entire race of people. What about their belief in installing super beings in government as Gods of the people which will enable to carry out these horrendous policies.
Do you find the racist policies and his descendents of Pelley acceptable. Shall we just sit back and watch and label those who find it abhorrent as 'cynical'? Good lord.

I dont see these groups as "distractions". They help me more to understand the dire condition of the human race and the fact that these groups act in the name of spirituality, both under the banner of alien and supra spiritual beings is alarming.

Brushing all that evil nonsense under the carpet so I may continue to stick my head up the arse of my own spiritual path whilst blaming homosexuals, blacks and Jews for every ill under the sun is not the way I do things.

Cynical. You bet babe. And I am far from finished.

Lionhawk wrote:

Sanicle wrote:It's like a giant octypus spreading its tentacles all over the planet isn't it. I like that analogy actually. The tentacles immobilizing people, keeping them earthbound. The 'ink' keeping them in the dark energies. Brrrr! I truly hope that some who are involved in any of these groups will see this thread and become aware...spread the word. Bless you Floyd.

Sanicle, you actually nailed it by calling it a an octopus. It is exactly that. With the exception of it having a head. There is no head on it. The location of it is on the border of our solar system. It is very fat and happy. Black and red in color. Very large tentacles branching smaller ones. It is also huge in size. It transmits the frequencies onto the Planet. These frequencies form the programs that control us. Everything we see in the physical in terms of wars, reactions to the control mechanisms, famine, etc. are all from this amoeba. That is my perception of it, instead of an octopus. Even the flypaper being doled out, because it causes an emotional reaction and that reaction outputs a frequency. This thing feeds on all of these. So understand that we are feeding the beast is actually very true indeed.

I don't know if folks were paying attention, but Brook discovered two energy streams, being transmitted from this thing. One was a carrier frequency and the other was the actual frequency compressing our DNA. But these are not the only ones being transmitted. Many of the channeling messages we read are also from this thing. Basically programs with a name attached to it. One that is often read about is the Micheal program. Anything written with the name Micheal as the head tag is a program. Same with St. Germain. Same with GFL. And on and on. Nazis, white supremacists, prejudices, or other negative thought path ways, with a title.

The reactions of all will feed the beast. For or against will go hand in hand to feed the beast. Simply because of the alternating polarity is required to complete the circuit. So if you are fore or against, take heed in the part you are contributing too. This feeding will only make the beast grow stronger and cause it to create more dangerous programs to strangle this Planet.

The hyper dimensional beings also know this. It is also well known that if you sit in your armchairs, only reading or explaining or complaining about it, you will never discover any of this. In other words, prove it out into the first hand, which second provocateurs don't want you to do because something in the program that they are affixed to, sees that as a real threat to that program. Didn't we see that parallel in the movie the Matrix, where someone wanted us to see how valid that is? It is no different in our world.

The darkside have duplicated all the cast and the programs. Then they get you to buy into it by getting you the "sucker" to BELIEVE it is so. So they make you look like a damn fool and are laughing at you, because they are the gate keepers and can see who and where your head is at. In many cases, you may find your head where they wanted you to put it in the first place. They bet on it. If you find info just landing in your lap because you think you are so good and don't have to put any work into it, then you without you knowing it, become the new sucker on the block and new bets are taken on your behalf for the next laugh they indulge in.

It is no different than what happen to Jesus. The discrediting program. They hijacked that as well and there are so many different slants and Bullshit being applied, that unless you met him, you wouldn't know better, period.

So how can anyone in their right mind trust anything that is being written for the masses nowadays? Really? It is second hand info at best and that is the problem to the so called awakening everyone thinks is going on. It also promotes the so called NEw AGe. Because there is so much reading to do. Is that real action?

So while everyone is reading about it and thinking they are putting air into action by responding to what is written, this beast continues to feed, because the illusion is if you read and react, you are in action. Is that the real action we really are seeking? I somehow thought it was to rid of this beast and the programs it transmits, so that we are no longer under the control of any outside influences whether alien or human.

And another thing. If you are only reading about it, you will never find out the whole truth concerning it. It will never add up. That meaning the sum of all it's parts. The darkside are winning this info war because they have hijacked the whole system. If you have never met any of the folks being written about, how would you know the truth? Yes, there are some lucky hits, but more alarming the hits that put someone 180 degrees out away from the real truth is a dis service to them and only creates karma for you.

Just like a lot of these sites saying this or that or even an individual saying it. There is this word called responsibility that they don't take seriously, for all the damage they may cause because some sucker believes what they say to be truth. (Viking for example, and I was hoping myself it was real for him)

This is also why, taking rhetoric for granted, higher dimensional beings don't visit folks. If you do the work, and meet them half way, they will find you. If you do the work really well, you might even surprise them with a visit.

I only know what I have experienced in this regard. If you can't prove this out, then you are just as guilty as the program dishing it out, because whether you are right or wrong, you choose to feed the beast by never proving it out and finding the whole truth. So scream as loud as you can when they capture your soul. No one is going to hear you but the ones that are doing the capturing and all they have to do is roll up the flypaper.

Here's a real stupid question. Do you think a Tall Grey (Hatonn) gives a hoot about any human? I dare you to answer that one. (Also remember he is in charge of communications) What does that tell you?


Namaste'

Brook wrote:Breathe a sigh of relief Floyd...this will be my last post here so you can carry on with your LIST...who's obsessed with 4D? Not me.....but perhaps......

I have been added to the "LIST"? At the very least my beliefs are now being "listed" as suspect? I believe the baby is most proverbially being thrown out with the bath water eh?

Carlos Castaneda is now suspect Shocked Whoa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A man who wrote 12 books on shamanism, sold more than 8 million copies in 17 languages. Is now on the fascist / pseudo fake something or other list....well I'll be!

http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3692p180-the-white-supremacist-and-fascist-ufo-contactees#67431

And the list just keeps on GROWING!.............me thinks the fascist ufo aliens....have messed with the human DNA a bit too much........ Shocked

Floyd wrote:Yes. Hes a bit like T Lobsang Rampa isnt he. His authenticity is highly disputed but has sold millions of books. (rampa turned out to be a plumber from Canada I think though I enjoyed his books knowing he wasnt really who he said he was.)

Im more interested in the pseudo Indian connections with right wing militia and fascism though and I dont think old Carlos was one of those. But you never know lol.

I can see how the real Indians get pissed off with these pretenders though. These imposters pollute the egregore of their ancient collective wisdom in a rather foul manner.

Neteru wrote:

If I may: I understand that you have worked hard to bring this information to light. I understand that you believe that "Ufology" is a Nazi hoax. I have read 98 percent of this thread in it's entirety.

TRANCOSO wrote:Hear, hear!

Excelent reply!

Keep 'm coming, mate!

devakas wrote:I am sorry I did not read this, but wanted to bump Floyd words when he recently somewhere said

we have to give not what we have, but have to give what we are.

please correct if you can.

love you all

devakas

hope you have fun on this weekend

Floyd wrote:

Neteru wrote:

If I may: I understand that you have worked hard to bring this information to light. I understand that you believe that "Ufology" is a Nazi hoax. I have read 98 percent of this thread in it's entirety.

I do not believe that all UFOism is a Nazi hoax. Only a part of it as detailed. Welcome.

Lionhawk wrote:

Floyd wrote:

Lionhawk wrote:, Floyd wrote, "Unfortunately most of the problems in the world exist on 3D."

Lionhawk wrote, "Programmed from 4D. So in order to change the 3D, you have to change the programming in the 4D. Duh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You really haven't researched how this works? That's okay. I learn something everyday. At least now I know you are a program. Welcome to the Mists.

4D is just as temporary and illusional as 3D and all the things that lie in it.
Dont be so obsessed with 4D.
Its ok. I still haven't given up hope on you. It is through the will and the consciousness of the human race that will decide the future of our planet. Not via any attempt of any 4D group or astral beings. A world in which hate and all its vehicles have no harbour.

Welcome to the mists indeed.

That's not what I expected for a response. To also say that it will be up to us as far as what will be decided for the Planet is not the truth either. That is an arrogant statement because Gaia herself will be the one who decides what. We are just useless fleas on her back, destroying her for our own indulging egos. As long as that thing is out on the border of our solar system, good men and women do nothing about it, the writing is on the wall. Or should I say as long as we indulge on second hand information, humanity will never experience the cure because in order to do that, you have to do that in the first hand.

Breathe a sigh of relief Floyd...this will be my last post here so you can carry on with your LIST...who's obsessed with 4D? Not me.....but perhaps......

I have been added to the "LIST"? At the very least my beliefs are now being "listed" as suspect? I believe the baby is most proverbially being thrown out with the bath water eh?

Carlos Castaneda is now suspect Whoa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A man who wrote 12 books on shamanism, sold more than 8 million copies in 17 languages. Is now on the fascist / pseudo fake something or other list....well I'll be!

Neteru wrote:

Floyd wrote:

Carol wrote:

Floyd wrote:

This post is dedicated to the bigots who follow this crap.

Becoming a bit cynical Floyd?

Cynical of ultra right wing, homophobic, racist, eugenic supporting, fascist, nazi bigots. Why of course I am. Are you not?
Cynical is not a word I would choose. Its a bit lightweight in all fairness. How about thoroughly disgusted? That sounds much much better.

As I said above, there are those who dont have a problem with Hatonn, the fascist contactess nor the white supremacism of Ballard and the St. Germain cults etc. many actively encourage these ideologies to the detriment of those who would suffer at its hands. As all of them wish to eliminate Jews they draw most of their support from the conspiracy movement as most conspiracy see Jews or Zionists as the root of the worlds problems. I think it unwise to hate an entire race of people and t see them as the soul problem in relation to the planets woes. That is incredibley naive and obsessive. Many in the conspiracy movement are unwilling to speak out or criticise these groups because they essentially embody many of their beliefs and that is why groups like these continue to manifest. Unfortunately, antisemitism and the extinction of Judaism and Zionism are not their only goals. They also wish to introduce policies of spiritual eugenics whereby non whites,the disabled and homosexuals would be depleted from the population. This isnt a joke it is really happening and its followers exist in all areas of human life. I dont see how having a laissez-faire attitude to these groups just because they hate Jews is useful. They have other agendas too.

St Germain, Green, Pelley, Willkiamson, Ballard, Meier,Bellringer, The Prophets,the Mighty I AM, right wing militia the pseudo Indians, Templar groups, Skinhead groups, hooligan groups, quasi mystical neo nazi groups, this is what they would wish for in their wildest dreams. Their alien and master kings would sit on thrones of power whilst their creeping minions carry their sorry arsed bidding. That is exactly what they want. Unfortunately, many 'new agers' who join these groups have absolutely no idea what they really stand for. That is one of the reasons why this thread is here. To shed some light on the real nature of these sinister ufo cults and St Germain cults..not to be cynical for the sake of it. One less hater in the world has to be good for the consciousness of the planet yes?

Do you think the blatant value judgements and hate filled stance against gay people and other minorities in the channelings of Hatonn of the Talmud of Jmannuel are acceptable for example. What about the exclusion of blacks from I AM meetings. How about their policy of total extermination of an entire race of people. What about their belief in installing super beings in government as Gods of the people which will enable to carry out these horrendous policies.
Do you find the racist policies and his descendents of Pelley acceptable. Shall we just sit back and watch and label those who find it abhorrent as 'cynical'? Good lord.

I dont see these groups as "distractions". They help me more to understand the dire condition of the human race and the fact that these groups act in the name of spirituality, both under the banner of alien and supra spiritual beings is alarming.

Brushing all that evil nonsense under the carpet so I may continue to stick my head up the arse of my own spiritual path whilst blaming homosexuals, blacks and Jews for every ill under the sun is not the way I do things.

Cynical. You bet babe. And I am far from finished.

If I may: I understand that you have worked hard to bring this information to light. I understand that you believe that "Ufology" is a Nazi hoax. I have read 98 percent of this thread in it's entirety. I wasn't going to say anything, mostly because there are not many threads like this here, and also because I have been trying to avoid conflict anywhere that I can. But I feel it is necessary to say something.

I have experience ET encounters. I have seen human ET life forms. I know that they exist, and I also feel that Billy Meier has been framed, much like others feel the same way. I will not deny that there are malevolent groups of ET in every single "species", if we could truly separate all of the groups in such a diverse classification, but to say that every single "nordic" ET contactee, or that every singly "nordic" ET are wishing for this agenda, is to be quite ignorant. I have seen this information called, "second hand." I agree with this label because it is true. First hand encounters always "trump" second hand information. I have had first hand encounters that prove to me, and me alone unfortunately, that your information is incomplete. Billy Meier is not a "neo nazi". Earth humans are dangerous, but there are bigger threats outside of this race, bigger threats that are using negatively aligned earth humans as slaves, pawns, and worse still, food. In depth research certainly proves this, despite what many want to pretend, and if the majority of humanity knew the truth, they would not be laughing at "little green men" anymore.

This goes far beyond any "nazi" plot. I have seen with my own two eyes the form of the reptilian ET. I have detailed my experiences in another thread if you would be willing to read them. They are in the ET section of this forum. I cannot prove my experiences as Meier was able to do, and my experiences were not as "long" in time as Alex Collier's were. But they were my experiences and I am only one of many who have had these experiences. I have been called many times "crazy" by those who do not understand. We live in a world where misinformation, disinformation, and misjudgment can exist side by side. This is why one should not base their entire belief on second hand information alone. You never know what has been forged or altered. Billy Meier for one was framed. The videos in this thread show that he was not a fraud. He was not lying about the Plejarens. He even took a lie detector test. One could go on, and on, and on about how mistakes can be made when testing physical evidence, but really that is beating a dead horse.

Are there malevolent human ET who could be pushing a "race purification" agenda similar to Hitler's? Possibly. But the Plejarens are not involved. Billy Meier is not involved. He was falsely and deceptively linked to many things since the revelation of his experiences. It is easier to believe that it is all a Nazi agenda. It is easier to believe that none of it is real. I know that because it would be easier to believe that I never had my experiences. But I had them and I cannot deny that I had them. It is a fact that I had them. It is a fact that the Plejarens are not supporting a "neo nazi" agenda. Ask any Plejaren contactee. I see that there is at least one here according to this thread. I will not dismiss his experiences because I would be a hypocrite. At this point there are is no such thing as "too crazy" in my mind because too many unthinkable things have happened in the past three years. This planet is nowhere near what it was at the turn of the millennium.

But that is my personal analysis of your thread and the information that you have brought forward. It is my contribution to this unfortunate conversation.

I have also heard so many comments in this thread that would make you believe the world is still flat. All I can say is that it is all about awareness. The field of awareness we each surround ourselves with. That is usually indicative of what the sum of experiences we have experienced. That is the only difference in essence.

The conflict begins when that awareness is not equally shared in that conversation[/b]. Again because of the awareness issue which falls back to experience. That's okay as long as one of the parties doesn't use their hard head as a spiritual tool. LOL

Raie wrote:Brook, a quick google search of the words you "quoted yourself" with reveals a body of text plagiarised from an essay called "Hamlets Mill"

In fact it is not the first time I have done this with things you have written, and it is not the first time I have found it plagiarised.
The one that made me laugh (from one of your now deleted posts) was "Genesis, meaning gene of isis" - which was also plagiarised.

If you want to be taken seriously as a writer or researcher you should reference the material you use. It may seem like a small point but it is important I think, which is why I have mentioned it.

Floyd man, this is a great thread.

Raie.

Lionhawk wrote:

Neteru wrote:

Floyd wrote:

Carol wrote:

Floyd wrote:

This post is dedicated to the bigots who follow this crap.

Becoming a bit cynical Floyd?

Cynical of ultra right wing, homophobic, racist, eugenic supporting, fascist, nazi bigots. Why of course I am. Are you not?
Cynical is not a word I would choose. Its a bit lightweight in all fairness. How about thoroughly disgusted? That sounds much much better.

As I said above, there are those who dont have a problem with Hatonn, the fascist contactess nor the white supremacism of Ballard and the St. Germain cults etc. many actively encourage these ideologies to the detriment of those who would suffer at its hands. As all of them wish to eliminate Jews they draw most of their support from the conspiracy movement as most conspiracy see Jews or Zionists as the root of the worlds problems. I think it unwise to hate an entire race of people and t see them as the soul problem in relation to the planets woes. That is incredibley naive and obsessive. Many in the conspiracy movement are unwilling to speak out or criticise these groups because they essentially embody many of their beliefs and that is why groups like these continue to manifest. Unfortunately, antisemitism and the extinction of Judaism and Zionism are not their only goals. They also wish to introduce policies of spiritual eugenics whereby non whites,the disabled and homosexuals would be depleted from the population. This isnt a joke it is really happening and its followers exist in all areas of human life. I dont see how having a laissez-faire attitude to these groups just because they hate Jews is useful. They have other agendas too.

St Germain, Green, Pelley, Willkiamson, Ballard, Meier,Bellringer, The Prophets,the Mighty I AM, right wing militia the pseudo Indians, Templar groups, Skinhead groups, hooligan groups, quasi mystical neo nazi groups, this is what they would wish for in their wildest dreams. Their alien and master kings would sit on thrones of power whilst their creeping minions carry their sorry arsed bidding. That is exactly what they want. Unfortunately, many 'new agers' who join these groups have absolutely no idea what they really stand for. That is one of the reasons why this thread is here. To shed some light on the real nature of these sinister ufo cults and St Germain cults..not to be cynical for the sake of it. One less hater in the world has to be good for the consciousness of the planet yes?

Do you think the blatant value judgements and hate filled stance against gay people and other minorities in the channelings of Hatonn of the Talmud of Jmannuel are acceptable for example. What about the exclusion of blacks from I AM meetings. How about their policy of total extermination of an entire race of people. What about their belief in installing super beings in government as Gods of the people which will enable to carry out these horrendous policies.
Do you find the racist policies and his descendents of Pelley acceptable. Shall we just sit back and watch and label those who find it abhorrent as 'cynical'? Good lord.

I dont see these groups as "distractions". They help me more to understand the dire condition of the human race and the fact that these groups act in the name of spirituality, both under the banner of alien and supra spiritual beings is alarming.

Brushing all that evil nonsense under the carpet so I may continue to stick my head up the arse of my own spiritual path whilst blaming homosexuals, blacks and Jews for every ill under the sun is not the way I do things.

Cynical. You bet babe. And I am far from finished.

If I may: I understand that you have worked hard to bring this information to light. I understand that you believe that "Ufology" is a Nazi hoax. I have read 98 percent of this thread in it's entirety. I wasn't going to say anything, mostly because there are not many threads like this here, and also because I have been trying to avoid conflict anywhere that I can. But I feel it is necessary to say something.

I have experience ET encounters. I have seen human ET life forms. I know that they exist, and I also feel that Billy Meier has been framed, much like others feel the same way. I will not deny that there are malevolent groups of ET in every single "species", if we could truly separate all of the groups in such a diverse classification, but to say that every single "nordic" ET contactee, or that every singly "nordic" ET are wishing for this agenda, is to be quite ignorant. I have seen this information called, "second hand." I agree with this label because it is true. First hand encounters always "trump" second hand information. I have had first hand encounters that prove to me, and me alone unfortunately, that your information is incomplete. Billy Meier is not a "neo nazi". Earth humans are dangerous, but there are bigger threats outside of this race, bigger threats that are using negatively aligned earth humans as slaves, pawns, and worse still, food. In depth research certainly proves this, despite what many want to pretend, and if the majority of humanity knew the truth, they would not be laughing at "little green men" anymore.

This goes far beyond any "nazi" plot. I have seen with my own two eyes the form of the reptilian ET. I have detailed my experiences in another thread if you would be willing to read them. They are in the ET section of this forum. I cannot prove my experiences as Meier was able to do, and my experiences were not as "long" in time as Alex Collier's were. But they were my experiences and I am only one of many who have had these experiences. I have been called many times "crazy" by those who do not understand. We live in a world where misinformation, disinformation, and misjudgment can exist side by side. This is why one should not base their entire belief on second hand information alone. You never know what has been forged or altered. Billy Meier for one was framed. The videos in this thread show that he was not a fraud. He was not lying about the Plejarens. He even took a lie detector test. One could go on, and on, and on about how mistakes can be made when testing physical evidence, but really that is beating a dead horse.

Are there malevolent human ET who could be pushing a "race purification" agenda similar to Hitler's? Possibly. But the Plejarens are not involved. Billy Meier is not involved. He was falsely and deceptively linked to many things since the revelation of his experiences. It is easier to believe that it is all a Nazi agenda. It is easier to believe that none of it is real. I know that because it would be easier to believe that I never had my experiences. But I had them and I cannot deny that I had them. It is a fact that I had them. It is a fact that the Plejarens are not supporting a "neo nazi" agenda. Ask any Plejaren contactee. I see that there is at least one here according to this thread. I will not dismiss his experiences because I would be a hypocrite. At this point there are is no such thing as "too crazy" in my mind because too many unthinkable things have happened in the past three years. This planet is nowhere near what it was at the turn of the millennium.

But that is my personal analysis of your thread and the information that you have brought forward. It is my contribution to this unfortunate conversation.

Thank-you Neteru for not going into the night without saying anything. Your post was very much appreciated by me. I also value your testimony that was inlaid in the form of energy that you posted. I will go and read it on the other thread.

Understand that Floyd here will freak out if you say Billy Meier.

Now would it be an exclusive thing if one with held information in regards to Billy Meier? I hope so! Because I do have some really good exclusive info in regards to Billy. It will stay that way to as long as Micheal Horn is still breathing on the Planet. And Floyd thought I was going to refer to him in that context. LOL But just so you know Floyd, is that when things become exclusive, is because there are those who don't have a proper foundation to handle the information and so it is kept from them. Not because the ones holding the information don't want to share it but because the ones who would be told such information aren't mentally prepared for it. It's that simple.

No one can understand what it is like to have these kind of experiences unless they go through them themselves. What used to be considered the "normal" is in actuality the whacked.

I have also heard so many comments in this thread that would make you believe the world is still flat. All I can say is that it is all about awareness. The field of awareness we each surround ourselves with. That is usually indicative of what the sum of experiences we have experienced. That is the only difference in essence.

The conflict begins when that awareness is not equally shared in that conversation. Again because of the awareness issue which falls back to experience. That's okay as long as one of the parties doesn't use their hard head as a spiritual tool. LOL