The White Supremacist and fascist 'UFO Contactees'

I personally have no problem with judgement. For example, when people say dont judge, they are making a judgement. The art of philosophy will take that much deeper. Semantics.

Everyone judges at each moment of their lives. Personally I think judgement from experience is not as bad as people think.

For example

If you had a daughter you loved who wanted to join Scientology against your wishes, then the educated judgement of someone who was aware about the religion of Scientology would be of value to you.

Scientologists may disagree with the advice given to your daughter but you may prefer to accept the judgement of someone who hasn't wasted all their money on the dubious quasi religious mind controlling techniques of some wierdo. Its all relative but there needs to some grounding of knowledge rather some wishy washy concept of non judgement.

Sometimes judgements are useful. And believe you me, some are eternally grateful for them.

One of the great weapons of TPTB is their ability to misinform. When we dont 'judge' their motives, we are at a great loss.

By the way
I know you are not against me, because you are me and you dont exist.

How I hate the white man- Roy Harper

PS please dont view this as hatred of the white man but rather a sad appraisal of what he has done to this planet. It could have been worse but we slightly avoided that for now.

Floyd wrote:Sanicle. I understand. I for one appreciate your posts.

Thanks Floyd. I knew you'd understand. But, at the risk of having my words and meanings misinterpreted yet again, I have to say that is not my idea of fun.

So I'll leave you guys to it and remove myself to a safe distance on the sidelines, just reading all the interesting stuff that's being revealed here.

Have fun you guys.

Sanicle wrote:, just reading all the interesting stuff that's being revealed here.

Try this one for size. It is a basic summary of the thread thus far.

Despite the white supremacist contactees and the racketeers that are the I AM Activity being spiritually vacuous, politically retarded and philosophically backward they do continue to have some level of influence.

What we see in post 1920s America is the emergence of two kinds of new religious movement that merged together, capitilising not only on pro nazi anti semitic fervour but with the public's fascination with UFOs, especially from the 1940's onwards. The Ballard's and others became the new 'messiahs' promising immortality and ascension long before David Wilcock was soiling his diapers.

It is with the fusion of all these movements that we see for the first time the birth of the UFO cult, or for want of a better term, alienism.

Pelley is still revered as Americas modern mystic by some. Both his and latterly George Hunt Williamson' mixture of mysticism, automatic writing, channeling and fascism led them to become the self styled messiahs of a new America, free of the influence of Jewry and the gradual elimination, repatriation and exclusion of those deemed to be of inferior race.

The Ballards capatilised on this and Guy Ballard's fictitious stories (partially plagiarised) lent an element of romanticism and religious authority and belief in America as the new 'promised land'. The Gods of the Ballard's and the contactees were blonde haired blue eyed super beings. Thus they are still depicted today by all manner of alien contactees claiming various things from various beings.

It is with Liebenfel's ariosophy, and the writings of Pelley and Williamson, that have continued to exert influence on neo nazi and white supremacist groups. Pelley's silver shirts was just one of a wave of fascist groups in the United States that went on to influence later right wing extremist groups such as the Aryan Nations and Rockwell's the American Nazi Party. George Van Tassel was an associate of Reverend Wesley Swift, the forefather of the Aryan Nations. British groups such as Combat 18, Stormfront and others all would hold Pelley and Williamson in high esteem as well as the Gnostic Liberation Front.

There are websites available todoy that hail the work of the contactees and a quick google search will reveal them though I am not going to afford them the luxury of a link. The Ballard's legacy also lived on through a variety of incarnations of I AMism which exists in several different splinter groups to this day. Lori Toye, founder of I AM America has been given maps of a future planet. An America, reduced heavily in size will be host to 'Golden Cities' She says America is an anagram for the I AM Race. Perhaps these 'Golden Cities will be populated by Golden haired blonde whites?


Other UFO cults followed, some with a less detectable white supremacist agenda whilst others are plainly bizarre. They still exist today ranging from the sexually liberated human cloning Raelian movement to the psycho babble and extortionately priced science fiction of Anna Hayes.

America is truly unique. In it we see the development of a new religion, mixing sightings of UFOs and meetings with blonde nordic aliens, with automatic writing from aliens who have a right wing agenda. This then merged with fascist politics and the teachings of the mighty I AM toprovide us with a highly fascinating but deeply sinister modern religious phenomena. It went on to influence others.

America also gave us other new religious movements such as Christian Science (bizarrely William Pelley channeled Mary Baker Eddy, founder of Christian Science to make some corrections to her original doctrine) and The Church of Latter Day Saints of Jesus Christ. It is the latter that believe in the celestialsation of the planet Earth where humans can live as Gods on the Planet Kolab. The heavenly planet. Now if that isn't sci fi what is? America could soon see its first Mormon president. A sign that the old religions are gone perhaps and that the new religions of the United States are starting to have some real impact. Pelley before him tried and failed. Guy Ballard also had pretensions for leadership.

Interesting times.
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And then we have Hatton

Gyeorgos Ceres Hatonn that is to say.

Floyd wrote:And then we have Hatton

Gyeorgos Ceres Hatonn that is to say.

You're Hatonn my friend....

http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t148p165-gfl-debate-thread#63951

Many here will think it the wife of George Green ( thanks to the disinformation operation that is Project Camelot) who is channeling Hatonn but however, the history of this dubious entity goes much deeper.

It was in the morse code messages received by George Hunt Williamson, who once used to work for and was influenced by American fascist Pelley, that we get the first message from Hatonn.

In Williamson's messages, Hatonn was the the name of a planet, not the name of a being.

The Planet Hatonn was in Andromeda. It was only later with the influenced RT Miller that the concept of Hatonn became an entity though their Telonic Research Center.

Later...

Hatonn has also communicated through the Ashtar Command and there is a well documented battle between the 'Ekkers' and the 'Greens' (pathetically) as to who holds the genuine thread of the true Hatonn, as well as $40000 worth of gold and the sorry arsed story of the Phoenix Liberator.

Hatonn would make a good republican candidate..

It should be noted, that Green was a promoter of the hideous hoax of the Talmud of Jmannuel given to the world by the European contactee Billy Meier.
Make what you will of that.

There is a long boring story out there but nevertheless, I cannot see an ounce of service to humanity in any of these dimwits.

Rather, the work of numpty personalities engaged in the singular purpose of disruption.

Always best to get at the root of things Brook you are quite correct.


Which goes right back to American right wing extremism? Disguised by little green men?

As far as this particular story is concerned.

And there is more to come. These people are horrendous and part of a rather ugly agenda.

Keep smilin

Oh my. We've gotten so jaded along this path of deceivers and disinformation egotists.

Floyd wrote:How I hate the white man- Roy Harper

PS please dont view this as hatred of the white man but rather a sad appraisal of what he has done to this planet. It could have been worse but we slightly avoided that for now.

I once read somewhere many years ago about the different ages of races. First, the black race controlled the world, followed by yellow race... and ending up with the white race. Seems everyone has mucked it up at one time or another. However, the red race had it right from the get go. I suspect their connection to the off-worlders was the strongest.

Carol wrote:Oh my. We've gotten so jaded along this path of deceivers and disinformation egotists.

Well we will keep at them till they fail Carol. And that they will. Hatonn included.

It used to be such great fun.

Now I just want to sit in the hot tub (yet to be installed) with a nice glass of Mascato. It's been cold here. burr....

Although I do have a stash somewhere of magic shrooms - which I've never taken. Picked them myself right out of the cow dung (which is why they are still here). I was saving them for the salad of an invading army in hopes of altering a few perspectives before I crossed over.

Hatton, of the Intergalactic Fleet of Ashtar Command, purportedly keeps an inordinate eye on our global affairs from his orbiting ship. Not your typical "channeled entity," his messages arrived via a special military channel that was received by 60-ish grandmother Doris Ecker and then made available in George Green's right-wing Phoenix Liberator publication. The alleged Hatton material includes conspiratorial rants about the New World Order with an anti-Semitic flavor, such as claims that the Holocaust was a hoax.

When Ecker was accused of plagiarizing William Cooper's paranoic tome, Behold a Pale Horse, word for word in some of Hatton's messages, a rift in the group took place. Now Green's wife Desiree claims to be in constant contact with Hatton as well. A judge ruled in a recent court case (in which the Greens fought with Ecker over $400,000 in gold donated to the Hatton cause) that it should be returned to the "devotee," a retired mathematics professor. However you slice the pie, supposed extraterrestrial Hatton's propaganda smells decidedly home-grown.

http://www.greatdreams.com/ufos/hatonn.htm



Hatonn was a planet on Andromeda.. (long before the galactic federation of bulllshit)
Then an entity...
Then he was fought over..
By several factions..

From George Hunt Williamson to the odious George Green they all have one thing in common

Extreme right wing politics trussed up in some farcical alien agenda.


Blame it on the aliens.

Vote ET

Any form of extremism is useless, whether it be socialism, communism, nazism, zionism or the XXXX pile in which we currently abode. These idiots simply muddy the waters and try to put the blame on someone else.

When I was at school, the guy who tried to put the blame on someone else was always known as a complete and utter ?*%$

America will be the downfall of western society just like it is the sum of the parts of everything that was wrong with Europe.

And there is nothing that the Nazis, nor the Zionists can do about it? The question is which will fall first. The States or her mother race? It is a conundrum.


What kind of consciousness will follow from such an almighty disaster?

A new race (consciousness) hopefully.

These silly bastards can count on Pelley and George and arisophy as there big deal

Right

Silly futher muckers

"Howard Menger, along with George Adamski, George Van Tassel, George Hunt-Williamson, and (among many other lesser-known contactees of the 1950's-era) gave a strikingly-similar message of spiritual upliftment and hope for humanity, given to them by Space Brothers"

This is what it says on the tin.

No mention of Ballard or Pelley or the other nazi George Green but you can bet your bottom dollar they are at the top of the heap.



However, as we have seen. all of the above are affiliated with white supremacist right wing America.

To dress it up as some UFO cult is highly discouraging for humanity.

If you are tuning in to the UFO story boys and girls... All that glitters is not gold.

Richard Girnt Butller, the former Lockheed engineer and founder of the Aryan Nations in the United States was a member of white supremacist William Duddley Pelleys Fascist 'Silver Shirts' organisation.

Pelley as we know, was the mentor of crypto Fascist George Hunt Williamson who was the first person to receieve 'messages' by 'morse code' from the right wing alien 'Hatonn' currently channeled by the wife of nazi George Green though many others have staked a claim in having a unique relationship with this vile astral spook. If not a complete invention of some sort. Nevertheless a reflection.

Nice Mr Green (Handbook for a New Reich) of course was the promoter of Billy Meiers odious invention, the so called the Talmud of Jmannuel.

All of these people promote spiritual eugenics, and the elimination of Jewish people and coloured races. yes go on, google it.

Williamson told us that Hatonn was a planet, only later did it become a person.

The rest is history..a rather ugly one at that.

An interesting take on the so called alien phenomena and its links to fascism is the that of the UFO researcher Nick Redfern and his theory of the Collins Elite

UFO researcher Nick Redfern joined George Knapp to talk about a secret group within the U.S. government known as the Collins Elite, who believe our purported alien visitors are actually deceptive demonic entities. Redfern first learned of the group's existence, through Ray Boeche, an Anglican priest, and former director of Nebraska's MUFON. Boeche said back in 1991 he met with two men from the Defense Dept. who told him about a secret project to contact NHE's (non-human entities). They showed him photographs of people who allegedly died during experiments while contacting the NHEs, and contended that the beings they communicated with were simply masquerading as ETs.

Eventually, Redfern interviewed a man in his 80s named Richard Duke, who claimed to be a member of the Collins Elite up until 1960, and recalled many specific details about the group. The group took its inspiration from occultist Aleister Crowley's ritual in which he reportedly made contact with an interdimensional entity named Lam. Later, in the 1940s, rocket scientist Jack Parsons engaged in similar experiments trying to invoke a being, and subsequent UFO sightings may have been enabled through his opening of a portal, the group believed. According to Duke, the Collins Elite also suspected that various contactees in the 1950s, such as George Hunt Williamson, who used a Oujia board for ET communications, were experiencing demonic deceptions.

In the 1960s, the Collins Elite examined a number of NDE reports, such as one in which deceased humans moved through a hellish landscape as a UFO-type craft hovered overhead, extracting their souls with a ball of light, Redfern detailed. "They eventually came to the conclusion...that the human soul possesses some sort of energy, which these entities can use as sustenance...In other words, they're harvesting human souls," he said, adding that the group believed that a strong religious viewpoint, such as Christian fundamentalism could keep the demonic entities at bay.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjcI6h5Ljqg

review on coast to coast

I would have to agree with the idea as to what aliens actually are as purported by Redfern.

Clearly, listening to the vile nature of contactee philosophy, these ideas cannot emanate from beings with the concept of compassion as a universal truth. Quite the opposite in fact.

A powerful indicator of this idea would be the disturbing movie 'The Fourth Kind'

So that was the Collins Elite

One of the wierder stories to come out of this bunch of likely lads is when George Hunt Williamson ( the first contactee to receive messages from the infamous Hatonn)changed his name, yet again, this time to Brother Philip where he set up an Ascended Master UFO cult up in the Andes. Off he went deep into the Andes in search of the Lost Sun Disc of Mu of all things in An Indiana Jones style adventure...
Having found himself being unsuccessful in his attempts to locate the Lost Sun Disc of Mu, he ended his days belonging to an obscure christian church, the Assyrian Church of the East.

And that was the end of George Hunt Williamson.

A must read

http://users.on.net/~thefirstbruce/Ballards/PsyDict.pdf

All about Mr St Germain and the good old USofA and its little known fascist history (and no, its not a Jewish conspiracy)

The good news is that its free!!!

Its all about a man who met St Germain in the mountains one day

The interesting thing about Guy Ballard (whom in the obligatory style of many a cult leader changed his name) or as he became known, Godfre Ray King, is that he was a leader of a new religious movement who lived the American Dream. Ballard was a true American entrepreneur.

American radio, mail and newspaper ads were his media and parting the gullible American public from their cash was his game. ( if there were internet and forums in those days he would have utilised them also)Like someone else here on this forum has suggested, correctly, (no wonder a certain few complained about him) , not for the last time this use of ST Germain was an utter fabrication, a ruse and a focus for his adoring followers. A figure head he borrowed to form a new religion.

Although volumes were written in his unveiled mysteries about his meetings this mysterious non entity, in this case ST Germain was to become a figurehead for a new Atlantis, a new America. Blacks and coloured were not allowed into I AM Activity meetings, an edict the group only reversed in the 1980s to avoid further PR disasters.

Ballard was actually quite jealous of the contactee fascist William Dudley Pelley and began to draw in new recruits from his nazi silver shirts group. The pictures of an Aryan looking St Germain no doubt found favour with the white supremacists and they took to the I AM religion like a duck to water. Ballard promised ascension and immortality, the notion that an Aryan Reich would be immortal was a very appealing factor for them. It has been suggested that Ballard actually mirrored Pelleys fascist group and used it as a successful business model. Read the excellent Psychic Dictatorship in America (see above) for further information

Like most cults, the I AM Activity faltered for a bit then transformed into something else, existing today in various formats all of which have been outlined on this thread including the right wing Church Universal and Triupmphant. Their St Germain is always portrayed in the same manner. Similarly, like most cult leaders, after Ballard died (much to the chagrin of his fan base who believed him immortal) his wife was charged for mail fraud. Pelley was also later charged for a securities fraud.

Where the contactees and the I AM followers differ, is in their use of aliens, or masters as the figure heads of their new religion. What they share in common are notions of racial superiority American exceptionalism and the pseudo christian crypto fascist right wing ideal. True religions for those with elitist notions.



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Scott Beekmans Book as depicted is also an essential read.



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Ballards wife Edna. Looking a little like something out of a Nazi propaganda movie.

The Sanctus Germanus Foundation, headed by a certain Michael Mau, (who used to work for the American Foreign Service) who channels St Germain allegedly, recommends the fascist literature of William Dudley Pelley and has links to his publications on his website. Actually the recommendations to Pelley's nutty mixture of contactee messages and fascism are suggested by no other than St. Germain himself.

So. It is cogent and undeniable that the links between the alleged persona of St. Germain ( Hatonn being the alien equivalent) and fascism are incredibly tangible. There is no doubt about it.

Thanks for the link to that .pdf Floyd. It's an interesting read, not only for the info that relates to what you are speaking of here on this thread.

I'm reading with ironic amusement as the pattern in the messages given by 'St Germaine' are so basic to most 'channelled' material. I'm recognizing it in the stuff I used to do as well lol.
* The endearments you are addressed with
* Being made to feel you have an important mission, teaching or healing to give
* The promises to give you what your heart desires (different to them in my case)
* The call to go out and spread the word (which I didn't take up, even though friends wanted me to)
* The 'testing of loyalty' phase
* Some minor 'miracles' and 'predictions' coming true
* And, of course, the odd Truth being thrown in to stir the heart.

It makes me grateful that there is so much more communication these days thanks to the Internet, especially threads like this that warn people. So many more people should have wised up to the tricks these entities use to suck the unwary seeker in now.

Strange, isn't it, that just because the info comes through in a more unusual manner (ie not through someone on this plane) that the being giving it is not subjected to the same amount of critical appraisal we'd give to a human we can see, feel and touch that might speak these words. I guess it's the 'feeling special' ego trip that does it lol, along with the sense of awe that all you've heard about others achieving is actually possible for you too.....that 'magic' does exist. Big trap for a sincere seeker.

Sanicle wrote:Thanks for the link to that .pdf Floyd. It's an interesting read, not only for the info that relates to what you are speaking of here on this thread.

I'm reading with ironic amusement as the pattern in the messages given by 'St Germaine' are so basic to most 'channelled' material. I'm recognizing it in the stuff I used to do as well lol.
* The endearments you are addressed with
* Being made to feel you have an important mission, teaching or healing to give
* The promises to give you what your heart desires (different to them in my case)
* The call to go out and spread the word (which I didn't take up, even though friends wanted me to)
* The 'testing of loyalty' phase
* Some minor 'miracles' and 'predictions' coming true
* And, of course, the odd Truth being thrown in to stir the heart.

It makes me grateful that there is so much more communication these days thanks to the Internet, especially threads like this that warn people. So many more people should have wised up to the tricks these entities use to suck the unwary seeker in now.

Strange, isn't it, that just because the info comes through in a more unusual manner (ie not through someone on this plane) that the being giving it is not subjected to the same amount of critical appraisal we'd give to a human we can see, feel and touch that might speak these words. I guess it's the 'feeling special' ego trip that does it lol, along with the sense of awe that all you've heard about others achieving is actually possible for you too.....that 'magic' does exist. Big trap for a sincere seeker.

I have known several channelers sanicle and always wondered what they really felt when the messages start to appear. I suppose it can be disconcerting. It could be an astral spook,an auditory hallucination a connection with the higher self or an evolved consciousness of some sort.

There is of course the possibility that there are genuine messages being delivered by benign entities, just a lot or astral spooks to go with them to throw the message 'off line'

These 'beings' often give out contradictory messages even if allegedly the same entity which can be confusing.

What we are seeing in the Case of Ballard and later related movements is that St. Germain has become politicised into a right wing agenda as was Hatonn with the contactees. It is up for debate whether there was actually a Ballardian St. Germain at all, but rather a ruse from a crypto fascist pseudo religion. The bottom line though is that Ballard was classic con man and he was mostly interested in money.

Floyd wrote:
It could be an astral spook,an auditory hallucination a connection with the higher self or an evolved consciousness of some sort.

There is of course the possibility that there are genuine messages being delivered by beneing entities, just a lot or astral spooks to go with them to throw the message 'off line'

These 'beings' often give out contradictory messages even if allegedly the same entity which can be confusing.

Yeah, well that's the problem isn't it......figuring out which it is. And you really have to keep going with it until you are able to figure out if the 'source' is trustworthy or not. I still look for proof on this plane (if it's possible to give it) and am always wary if it's apparent the ego is what's being appealed to. If there is no 'proof' I'm satisfeid with and the ego is obviously being stroked, I'm out.