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    Post  Carol Mon Nov 15, 2010 2:20 pm

    Well for us maybe. Not so for Cliff. This was suppose to be bigger then 9/11

    Cliff High had his site taken down - Page 14 JesusFacepalm

    However, if one looks at what is happening we've got some amazing earth changes, the fiscal arena is in the toilet, CMEs and sparks on the ground in snow (this is very significant), new government policy regarding slowing down imports from China (look out WalMart), more infighting among nations over the economy, the Presidents plan had to land due to some type of engine problems (someone sabotage the plane?), the postal services is billions in the hole. I'd say during this time period there were multiple tipping points but more like water dripping over the side of a dam.


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    Post  Carol Mon Nov 15, 2010 3:33 pm

    http://urbansurvival.com/week.htm

    Quote:

    Points of fact in support of this being a tipping point:

    1) The Fed has now surpassed China as the #1 holder of US Treasury debt.

    2) The Fed this morning received a demand letter from various parties demanding they withdraw QE2.

    3) This weekend, China and greater Asia are now actively discussing/seeking alternatives to the USD for balance of trade.

    Impact Today: NONE.

    Impact Tomorrow: HUGE.

    Again, tipping points are not single events ala 9/11. Though they could be. Since this particular forecast called for a tipping point being largely economic, take another look at the three points above. If you don't understand HOW those could be part of a large tipping point, you have a lot to learn.

    Those three points above all occurred over this past weekend, but only largely being reported today.


    From Steve Q.:

    Why Last week Will Go Down in History as America No Longer Is at Turning Point But a Burning Point


    November 14, 2010
    Steve Quayle


    Hide in plain sight is the name of the game. Everyone is looking for the big event, but not seeing the little steps that have led to the destruction of our currency, freedoms and future. The Chinese sub incident has basically shown that the balance of power and technology has shifted from the West – The United States – to the East primarily China and to a lesser extent Russia. To the globalists within our One World Government crowd, including the "Captain of the Titanic", America must be absorbed through violent revolution with the roundups and destruction, of the resisters to the New World Order.


    The rape pillage and plunder of everything and everyone is "a fait accompli", meaning an irreversible action which is completed before those affected by it, are in a position to reverse it! Consider the physical strip searches by the TSA and the following "perverse molestation" of little children which would bring a child molestation charge if it were done by any body other then the "officials". Any man, father, brother or guardian, worth his salt, would STOP at all cost a person doing this to a child.

    Ask anyone who has ever counseled those traumatized in youth by sexual molestation how even minor groping can traumatize some children for life! The financial moral depravity and theft of America's capital base are another in your face successful plundering and destruction of the middle class as the manufacturing base and technological lead, once enjoyed by the U.S., has now shifted to China and India.

    The law of the jungle is being substituted in the place of common law and constitutional law, is superseded daily by those implementing our NATIONAL DESTRUCTION. When you listen to the lying shills on "lame stream TV" and the constant drone of the "Wall Street gang bangers", it becomes incredibly transparent who is being enriched and who is being impoverished by the IN YOUR FACE LYING MIND CONTROL MEDIA.

    You need to know and comprehend the behind the scenes financial shenanigans of the G-20, who by the way unanimously endorse one world government and a one world currency! While they speak publicly about global finance, behind the scenes they are relentless in orchestrating events that are supernaturally directed to bring the world nations into the "Global Blob" of the ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT UNDER LUCIFER!

    This week whether you know it or admit it, the US Dollar was abandoned and the USA was told in no uncertain terms that no one will buy our bonds anymore. To all the critics out there still working overtime on the shill boards that boast liberty but exhibit bondage, which would delight the heart of Markus Wolf (East Germany's former spymaster) – SHAME ON YOU!

    You can't refuse to recognize the DIS-information agents on your own boards. The global default of nations such as Iceland and Ireland with demonstrations in Spain, Greece, France and Britain are all planned. It should come as no surprise then that massive riots and political upheaval are directly related to the austerity measures that were initiated against the working class by the elitists! Prison camps, railroad cars, coffins, Rex 84, Operation Garden Plot are all being implemented now for the express purpose of using a manufactured false flag event against our own citizens. The Evil Ones know that when there is no gas, food, credit cards, checks and access to funds that Americans will be ripe for the slaughter!

    Shame on the false eunuchs in the pulpits that have failed to speak out against evil. Shame on the whited sepulchers who have denied the Bread of Life – JESUS CHRIST – to a hell-bent society. Woe to those pastors and teachers that have entertained but not prepared the Sheep of His pasture, but have knowingly or ignorantly placed the Redeemed of the Lord in the jaws of the wolf.

    We are no longer at a turning point in America but at a burning point, whether it comes next month or next year. IT WILLL COME!

    Maybe the FUSION CENTERS WILL GET, WHAT THEIR NAME SAKE IMPLIES, A SURVEILLANCE VIEW OF THE PLANNED THERMO NUCLEAR DESTRUCTION OF THEIR FORMER NATION, THAT THEY BETRAYED, INTO THE HANDS OF AMERICAS EXTERNAL ENEMIES! So what do you think happens to you "FUSEES" when the external invading armies come? They will mow you down. Useful idiots are expendable once they have been fully exploited!


    This post from the Thailand-USD thread.

    QUOTE:

    OK...let's give this a shot in sort-of personal terms for someone who might not understand:

    We purchase the majority of our XXXX from China, Eastern and SE Asia.

    Those countries decide to trade in their LOCAL currency (or a currency other than the USD).

    This negatively impacts THE CONFIDENCE in the dollar...further driving the value of the dollar down against other currencies.

    As the dollar goes down, you get less for your money (less dollars against the traded currency), which means higher import prices. Or stated another way: you are going to be paying even more money for all your XXXX. =P

    Now, IN ADDITION, when a country trades in USDs, the country must maintain USD deposits, bonds, treasuries for USD settlement of transactions. This includes CRUDE.

    If a country is not trading in USD, then the country does not have to maintain their USD deposits, bonds, treasuries, which FURTHER reduces the confidence in the USD.

    The US sells treasury bonds to countries to help support the value of the USD. If no one wants these treasuries OR needs these treasuries, then the support for the USD is FURTHER reduced.

    When we are talking about CRUDE, that's a whole helluva a lot of USD deposits, bonds, treasuries back in our hands seeking a buyer.

    If the treasuries hold no value, then who is going to buy them???

    Now, add in our own dollar meddling such as Fed decisions (QE crap), mortgage backed securities fraud (intl issue), etc.

    In short: it's a confidence game, and as the world moves away from the dollar - especially the petro dollar - the world is saying we have no confidence in the dollar, and EVERYTHING we import just shoots up in cost to the US consumer.

    As ED stated, it can be a country by country domino effect that *could* move so fast it would make building 7 look like it fell in slow motion..........especially if another currency (or basket) replaces the petro dollar.

    To add: if this occurs (at whatever point), the real, hard-hitting consumer impact is a couple of months down the road although prices (lag time for imports)will start rising immediately.

    To further add: Iran was elected leadership of OPEC starting Jan 2011 and recently stated $100 bbl oil would not be bad for the economy.


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    Post  lindabaker Mon Nov 15, 2010 4:20 pm

    Carol, what about the sparks on the snow news? Curiouser and curiouser. Do you have a link?

    Edit:
    Never mind, I saw Brook's link about the solar wind. Did they ever say where the sparks on the snow story came from, which state?


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    Post  TRANCOSO Mon Nov 15, 2010 4:47 pm

    mudra wrote:The end of Liberty

    spooky USA Shocked

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQv-sdMCClQ&feature=player_embedded#!


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    Spooky it is!

    Allthough you have to keep in mind that this is an 'Advertorial Documentary', with the purpose to persuade people to join a movement (The NIA) & invest their money in gold.

    I wonder how many people actually test the quality of the gold & silver they purchase.

    Not all that shines is gold

    When something looks too good to be true, it usually is.

    Keep in mind that very often when 'the general public' becomes/is been made aware of a 'bubble', the bubble is about to burst...
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    Post  Carol Mon Nov 15, 2010 6:24 pm

    lindabaker wrote:Carol, what about the sparks on the snow news? Curiouser and curiouser. Do you have a link?

    Edit:
    Never mind, I saw Brook's link about the solar wind. Did they ever say where the sparks on the snow story came from, which state?

    No they didn't.


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    Post  Mercuriel Mon Nov 15, 2010 7:29 pm

    TRANCOSO wrote:Most users ever online was 140 on Mon Nov 15, 2010 1:02 pm

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    Post  Carol Mon Nov 15, 2010 7:44 pm

    I just got this as an email alert. Maybe this is Cliff's 9/11.

    "A RUN ON THE DOLLAR,"
    came the sober warning from a Nobel Prize-winning MIT economist... "probably the kind of disorderly run that precipitates a global financial crisis..."
    ...while other monetary experts now warn, "We're in the terminal stages of the world's most gigantic pyramid scheme" set to vaporize assets of the average citizen.

    WHAT WILL IT MEAN FOR YOU?
    Heed the unmistakable warning signs in this Year-End 2010 URGENT ALERT, or risk missing your FINAL CHANCE to protect what's left of your nest-egg, before the crushing weight of national debt collapses the once-mighty U.S. Dollar, rendering...

    ...YOUR ASSETS VIRTUALLY WORTHLESS!

    Dear Concerned American:
    All signs point toward the U.S. dollar - which has already shed fully a third of its value relative to foreign currencies - streaking at supersonic speed for a precipitous and historic crash.

    Anyone holding dollars (or dollar-denominated assets) is sitting on a ticking time bomb with the Zero Hour fast approaching. Given the massive currency inflation generated in just 18 months by a grossly misguided Obama administration and Federal Reserve - with far more promised in the next few months - we've no time to lose before a worldwide rush to the exits.
    Your family's security rests on you reviewing this Year-End 2010 Urgent Alert right to the end. I urge you: read this letter now, because if you wait 'til later, you may indeed be too late.

    Unmistakable warning signs - each of which I'll reveal here in detail - point to a monetary crisis on the verge of spinning wildly out of control, leading to massive INFLATION and quite possibly, a sudden and catastrophic dollar collapse that will change our nation forever.

    Let's take a closer look at events unfolding now, and the best steps you and I can take today to protect ourselves.

    Under intense pressure to generate immediate cash flow to shore up a virtually bankrupt U.S. Treasury, federal regulators are systematically destroying, seizing, and otherwise transferring to federal control trillions of dollars in private assets. The all-but-certain impact on our currency, on your purchasing power, and on your standard of living could be both sudden and devastating.
    Obama & Co. spent recklessly to gain controlling interests in the titans of the U.S. banking, insurance, and auto industries. At one point, Mr. Obama chortled in front of C-Span cameras -

    "We are out of money now. We're operating in deep deficits..."


    For months we were told that the full impact of Obama's bailout would come to oh, no more than $787 billion. Then the independent Congressional Budget Office checked the math and found that just this first bit of "Obamanomics" will, in fact, bloat deficits by $862 billion. But even that is just the tip of the iceberg of what's already been spent or committed.

    In recent days, the Federal Reserve vowed it will print up another $600 billion in new money between now and next July. They've even explicitly announced they are trying to increase inflation!

    Major foreign investors such as China are quickly catching on to the hard reality of burgeoning U.S. debt and our impending insolvency. They see that we are out of moves, and are coming to the inescapable conclusion that the only way Washington can keep its Ponzi finances going is to run the monetary printing presses non-stop. (More about what this means in a moment.)

    While ALL currencies on the globe are falling againsttangible assets, the U.S. dollar is falling faster.

    As I mentioned, the dollar has already surrendered fully a third of its value relative to other weakening world currencies in less than a decade. This and other facts lead inescapably to the conclusion that Western economies and markets will shrivel relative to those of ascendant countries in Asia.
    A massive, catastrophic dumping of the devaluing U.S. dollar looms large like a dagger over our heads. The upshot is - if you don't immediately begin taking basic precautions with your money as I'll outline right here, you stand a good chance of acting too late and getting caught with your britches down.

    Even mega-investor and high-profile Obama cheerleader Warren Buffett has caught wind of what's happening. The Oracle of Omaha has admitted publicly that the recent spate of frantic spending and money creation will soon trigger a currency-destroying inflation that will be much more severe than in the 1970s. Translation: get out of the dollar now!

    Another truly big-time investment guru, Jim Rogers, dispatched this sobering assessment in a strongly worded email -

    "The world at large does seem to understand innately that governments are bankrupting themselves and destroying paper currency."

    "Bankrupting." "Destroying." Strong words indeed, but truly meaningful only to those savvy enough to take action now before the other shoe drops with a thud. And specifically which nation's government and currency are on a fast-track to monetary doomsday? As Rogers recently told TIME magazine,"America is the largest debtor nation in the history of the world."

    The Dollar's Coming "Reckoning Day":
    National Turmoil on Par With
    Pearl Harbor and 9/11?


    The dollar's coming Reckoning Day will be a traumatic, game-changing milestone in the decline of our beloved nation as a financial powerhouse.
    As I'll detail in a moment, the sheer havoc unleashed by a dollar crisis will be nationally jolting at least on a par with the 1929 stock market crash, Pearl Harbor, JFK's assassination, and 9/11. Yes, it's fully possible (if not likely) that the bottom will drop out in just one harrowing day.
    Here's just a glimpse of the likely fallout as I see it:

    A PRICE EXPLOSION as Americans scramble over one another to obtain tangible assets or simply hoard basic necessities, before the dollar's purchasing power evaporates fully.

    WIDESPREAD SHORTAGES, sparse grocery store shelves, and the return of long gas lines.

    FAILED BUSINESSES and economic dislocations far eclipsing anything we've seen to date.

    A BREAKDOWN IN COMMERCE, as longer-term transactions become impossible to do.
    RISING CRIME with rampant unemployment far beyond today's "official" 10% jobless rate.

    GOVERNMENT HANDOUTS DRYING UP, with the dependent class - angry, hungry, and desperate - taking to the streets. Looting, arson, and general lawlessness will quickly follow.

    I want to give you the inside skinny on the steps prudent citizens are quietly taking right now to gird themselves against the economic and civil consequences of the coming greenback collapse... and even prosper through intelligent preparation and prudent asset allocation.

    You can - in fact, you must - take key steps to protect your family's way of life. And you must do it soon. "Waiting it out" is not a plan for anything short of a catastrophe. I'll explain.

    Respected economist and forecaster George Whitehurst-Berry has offered an astute explanation of the financial gyrations rocking U.S. markets, as quoted in the opening of this letter:

    "We are in the terminal stages of the world's most gigantic pyramid scheme," he explained, referring to the ultimate collapse of the U.S.-led monetary order that will permanently impoverish millions while making a handful of smart thinking, ahead-of-the-curve investors very rich.

    Even the Pentagon is Secretly Planning for
    Dollar-Collapse Scenarios that Dramatically
    Tilt the Geo-Political Balance

    The looming dollar crisis is no idle theory.This threat is so real that top Pentagon experts are running live "planning scenarios" in which resource-rich nations like Russia and China exploit U.S. indebtedness to wreak sudden havoc in our financial system and basic economy.

    In the 2009 Unrestricted Warfare Symposium at the Johns Hopkins Applied Physics Laboratory, intelligence analyst James Richards unveiled a blueprint detailing how U.S. foes could manipulate the dollar - dropping its value by a shocking 75%, crippling our economy overnight.

    This report's conclusions are nothing short of chilling. So vulnerable is the U.S. to this scenario, Richards urges U.S. intelligence agencies to pay close attention to global gold supplies and financial maneuverings of rival powers (something I do on virtually a daily basis for my valued subscribers).
    Richards' prescient paper came out days before Zhou Xiaochuan, governor of China's central bank, challenged the U.S. to step aside to allow a new global currency to replace the dollar.

    The international news media recently reported another Chinese connection to the coming doom of the dollar. The Financial Times of London, for one, noted: "China has quietly almost doubled its gold reserve to become the fifth biggest holder of the precious metal." Yet as usual, the celebrity-obsessed U.S. media totally glossed over another harbinger of what is to come.

    Or as the always-reliable Casey Report added: "On the bigger global screen, this revelation [about China's gold hoarding] stops the concept of gold as a 'barbarous relic' as bankers had hoped it would become in the past 50 years..." Translation: The day of the paper-backed dollar is coming to an ugly end, and soon.

    You Must Plan for the Coming Inflation: NOW

    Specifically, you must have a practical, doable plan to put yourself ahead of the 99% of Americans who are going to get caught completely off-guard when the terrible fundamentals of the U.S. dollar wipe out the purchasing power of their salaries and their retirement savings.

    The coming wicked inflation will wreak economic and social havoc far beyond skyrocketing prices. Widespread fuel and food shortages, relentless crime waves, and the government's endless socialistic machinations will devastate the American way of life like a giant tornado.

    My name is Lee Bellinger, publisher of the private monthly financial, health, privacy, and taxation intelligence advisory Independent Living. In my three decades of publishing discreet inside information about government power-grabs and scams, never have we produced as important a document as my new mega work, the 152-page Dollar Destruction Defense Manual: Everything You Need to Protect Your Way of Life Against the Coming Inflationary Ruin. (If you want this let me know and I'll post the info)

    Experts Deliver Dire Prognosis on the Future
    of the U.S. Dollar: Your Hard-Earned Money
    Will Be Debased to Alleviate Federal Insolvency

    The late Nobel Prize winning economist Dr. Paul Samuelson - Harvard doctorate, advisor to two U.S. presidents and author of the best selling economics textbook of all time - characterized U.S. financial imbalances as so severe and "irreversible that we must accept that at some future date there will be a run on the dollar. Probably the kind of disorderly run that precipitates a global financial crisis."

    Or as Dr. Ron Paul, presidential candidate and a member of the U.S. House of Representatives, recently noted about the rampant, unprecedented money creation going on, "If we continue doing what we are doing right now, we will literally destroy the dollar."

    U.S. Finances Are an Even Bigger Mess
    Than is Generally Understood

    Even before Obama was sworn in, unfunded federal liabilities had blown past $500,000 per U.S. family of four. In fact, federal finances are in such shambles that David Walker, Comptroller of the Currency, resigned in disgust at the tail-end of the Bush administration.

    Worse is what's happened since Walker resigned. As Rep. Ron Paul recently wrote, the trillions of dollars created to bail out banks in just the past six months have added the equivalent of a whole new federal establishment to Uncle Sam's bloated obligations.

    Obama's new spending obligations stagger the imagination, amounting to...
    More spending than the socialistic New Deal...
    More spending than the Korean War...
    More spending than the 1980s savings and loan bailout...
    More spending than the entire Iraq War...
    COMBINED!

    And that was even before the Congressional Budget Office discovered that minor little $75 billion miscalculation I mentioned earlier in the Obama team's math.

    Now another CBO report shows that rising unemployment and falling tax revenue will likely force the Social Security "Trust Fund" into the red as soon as this year - a full decade before the Comptroller General's office had previously warned it would happen.

    The Next Financial Train Wreck
    Could Be the "Fail-Safe" Bond Market -
    Are You Properly Hedged?

    Recently Bloomberg tabulated the continuously-growing U.S. government takeover of the private-sector (in the form of loans, guarantees, and other commitments). So far, taxpayers have been saddled with an ADDITIONAL $12.8 trillion in unpayable debt.

    These federal bailouts now amount to 90.14% of America's annual gross domestic product - nearly our entire output for a year! Imagine that for every $1.00 you make, brand new federal bailouts now have a claim to more than 90% of your hard-earned money.

    What's especially infuriating to me is the Fed's refusal to disclose who has been on the receiving end of all its bailout dough, or exactly what's now on its ballooning balance sheet. The Fed's own Inspector General in recent Congressional testimony admitted after much waffling and obfuscating that she cannot account for trillions of dollars in off-balance-sheet transactions and has absolutely no idea how much the secretive central bank is losing on its "investments."

    As scandalous as the massive corporate bailouts are, they pale in comparison to those that will be required for Social Security and Medicare. An editorial in Barron's stated flatly - "Medicare, Medicaid, pensions, indeed the full freight of the federal government constitutes a Ponzi scheme in plain sight. Income is recycled to pay benefits; no new wealth is created."
    How ironic that the feds locked up Bernie Madoff and threw away the key (and rightly so) over his multi-billion dollar Ponzi swindle...
    ...when the U.S. government itself is the operator and tireless defender of the most gigantic, multi-trillion dollar Ponzi scheme ever, with you, me, and millions of Americans holding the bag!

    Financially, the U.S. Is on a Road with No Turns

    U.S. public and private debt now amounts to nearly four times the gross domestic product. In the midst of the Great Depression, total debt topped out at three times GDP. That suggests the current financial crisis could be even more severe in magnitude and length.

    So it should come as no surprise that Standard & Poor's quietly reported last year that Treasury bonds are poised to lose their AAA-rating because of the way Washington is indulging in emergency cash creation and massive spending.
    Lest there be any doubt over the reliability of the warning from S&P, Moody's Investors Services issued the identical warning in early 2010. When Moody's and S&P both cast a dark shadow over the safety of hallowed U.S. Treasuries, any investor, taxpayer, and regular American citizen ought to sit up and take notice.

    Yet when asked by ABC News to share his own views on Moody's latest warning of a coming downgrade in U.S. Treasury ratings, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner predictably replied: "Absolutely not. And that will never happen to this country."

    If you believe that happy talk, you might as well throw this letter away. I can't help you. But if you have a hunch as I do that when both Standard & Poor's and Moody's are onto something and that U.S. Treasuries are headed for trouble, please stay with me.

    MarketWatch recently reported another disturbing and telling warning sign: The cost to buy insurance against U.S. sovereign debt has surged by a factor of seven as compared to two years ago.

    A collapsing U.S. bond market will spell disaster for the pension funds, mutual funds, and insurance companies that hold bonds by the billions. Of greater concern to me, when the bond market ruptures, millions of retirees on fixed income could find themselves destitute.

    I don't want you to be among the tragic victims of this looming meltdown. Fortunately, you can take effective steps right now to hedge any exposure you have to the bonds (if you have a retirement plan or a life insurance policy, you are in particular danger). You can even set yourself up to profit from the coming decline and fall of U.S. Treasuries.

    Global worries about the debasement of the dollar are quite VALID. Massive expansion of the money supply at the end of the Bush administration has been eclipsed by even more massive dollar-printing during the Obama administration. With U.S. economic output stagnant, massive inflation is inevitable as the Federal Reserve and the politicians try to prop up the economy with loose money.

    Financial Sense analyst Brian Pretti has produced a thoroughly documented report demonstrating why the Fed has had no option but to begin directly funding U.S. government debt (nearly $2 trillion worth of new IOUs were issued in 2009 alone) through the creation of even more printing press money because of flagging demand from China, Japan, and private investors.

    We are witnesses to the end of a 39-year experiment - in which global currencies linked to the dollar (and with no gold backing anywhere) are reaching the final inevitable stages of all fiat money. When the Weimar Republic, and more recently, Zimbabwe, began to monetize their debt, the countries plunged into hyperinflation.

    In short, the United States is attempting to print its way out of debt and recession. And that means the value of the dollars you hold is destined to go down significantly.

    The Smart Money Stampede Out of the Dollar
    Has Already Begun

    If you've already heard a little voice in your head warning you that Wall Street paper assets are highly-manipulated certificates of financial folly, you got this letter just in time. While rampant money creation may force the DOW upward in nominal terms, the DOW index itself has been collapsing against the value of hard assets for some time.

    The Dow may once again fall to a 1:1 ratio with the gold price.
    For example, it currently takes barely 8 ounces of gold to buy a share of the DOW industrials. Yet as recently as 1999, it took 44.8 ounces of gold to buy a DOW share - that's a whopping 80% crash in the real value of the DOW.
    The money magicians in Washington can fool millions of investors in the short-term, true. But they can't fool those who measure their wealth in terms of precious metals, which retain their value over time. Gold is the mortal enemy of big government borrow-and-spenders. When the gold price shoots up, it signals to the world that the currency upon which government Ponzi finances operate is losing value.


    ...well there's more but the guy is selling a book here and I was more interested in the facts he listed out then buying a book. If you want his link just let me know. C


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    Post  LeeEllisMusic Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:21 am

    Thanks for that Carol~ I'd like the link please.
    Perhaps my family would like to read this and make some changes before it's too late.
    One can only hope :)
    Blessings,
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    Never mind, Carol~ I found his info...


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    Post  Guest Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:23 am

    And yet there are experts from Moody sayin "U.S. Rating Not Under Pressure This Year or Next, Moody's Says" http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-11-16/u-s-credit-rating-not-under-pressure-this-year-or-next-moody-s-hess-says.html

    This video somehow is disturbing, specially about the TSA and children...



    I can not understand how people that call themselves humans can do that to children...or why parents chose to travel for "holidays" and expose their children to such treatment...maybe this is the tipping point, people are gone...have no desire to resist tptb anymore? anything goes, worse than cattle....
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    I think I found the tipping point, it is not confirmed but oh boy! it is a substantial change

    Knight Research' Stunning Call: "The Game Is Over"
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    From Knight Research. Presented without commentary.

    The Game Is Over

    The simple story is this: We believe the structural and cyclical terms of global trade have finally reached their tipping point. This will catalyze a wholesale change in sentiment and a historic repositioning of risk assets. The emerging market global growth story is over.

    * In meetings with clients throughout October, we began emphasizing our growing concerns about the nearly ubiquitous confidence the financial markets—and for that matter, global leaders and their body politic—have in China; and by extension, the rest of the emerging market story, commodities, and the direction of foreign exchange cross-rates.
    * Not surprisingly, our concerns were met with varying degrees of resistance; but the overall consensus clearly favored a very bullish, asymmetric outcome over both the near and intermediate terms. When pressed as to our own sense of timing and specific catalysts for broad-based trend reversal, candidly we were unclear. Our sense then, was that the higher and faster the commodity markets pushed, the sooner the reversal would occur. But we have now clarified our view.
    * In just the past several weeks, we believe the data and government actions out of China, the back-up in US interest rates, the Fed’s emphatic commitment to QE2, intensifying pressures across the EU, broadly rising commodity prices, government efforts to control hot money flows, have finally pushed the global terms of trade to their tipping point.
    * And now, as is evident by the flight to safety, and growing evidence that China will soon try and effect price controls in addition to raising interest rates and significantly changing the rules for their vast network of Local Government Funding Vehicles (LGFVs); the writing is on the wall. The game is over.
    * The simple story is this: The structural and cyclical terms of global trade have reached their tipping point which will effect a wholesale change in sentiment and a historic repositioning of risk assets.
    * So what do we consider the “terms of global trade”? Structurally, per our top chart, they are the intersection of Government Policy (viz., rule of law, market systems, trade law, etc.,) Resource and Industry (viz., natural resources, labor/demographic pools, industrial advantages, import dependencies, etc.,) and Economic Security (viz., the sovereign’s competitive standing, the relative power/needs of the citizenry, the mandate/control of the government, etc.) And cyclically, (as represented by the light blue, bold arrows) the terms of trade are defined by the intersection of foreign exchange rates, commodity prices, and the cost and availability of trade finance.

    * And in our assessment given:

    1. The structural breakdown of the credit and labor markets in the developed world and the anemic outlook for nominal GDP growth
    2. The immaturity of the developing world and their vulnerability to credit shocks and uncontrollable inflation
    3. China’s dependence upon non-economic, and unsustainable credit expansion to maintain growth far beyond natural export and domestic demand, and
    4. Asia’s dependence upon imported energy and agriculture

    the game is over. Presently, we believe that the broad-based resurgence of investor confidence in the emerging market and secular bull market in commodities will end badly; proving that the rally which commenced in Q2 2009, was in fact an “echo bubble” facilitated by massive—and unsustainable—stimuli from the Chinese Government

    * And although such cataclysmic shocks rarely result in rhythmic, straight line fractures, the chain of price adjustments should be relatively clear. Accordingly, we expect a shockingly powerful rally in the dollar, broadbased weakness across the commodity sector, a dramatic widening of emerging market credit spreads, and what could prove to be a stampede of hot fund flows out of the emerging markets.
    * We appreciate both the gravity and the brevity of this note; but then again, the story is simple.

    We believe that the end of the Great Consumer Credit Cycle and the vast structural differences in the terms of trade between the United States, the EU, and China, have finally caught up with the secular bull thesis on Emerging Market and Commodities. Quite ironically, the Fed’s aggressive policies will likely prove to be the catalyst which breaks China’s unbridled expansion of credit and non-economic growth, ushering in a wholesale rebalancing of risk assets.
    http://www.zerohedge.com/article/knight-research-stunning-call-game-over
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    Post  Guest Sat Nov 27, 2010 1:58 pm

    Clif has indicated that the release language is happening according to plan and published and article at halfpasthuman http://www.halfpasthuman.com/horrors.html


    An extract

    So once again, so sorry to shock the inner reptilian, but old Occam was trying to constrain universe and complexity by his 'law', and it just is waaaaay too small to fit. The idea that simple is a clue in universe is absurd when it can be easily observed that universe is complex beyond our ability to comprehend!

    But what is easily understood is that ANYONE trotting out old Occam's razor to 'explain' any issue, is only trying to settle it with a control technique. For instance. Occam's razor says that JFK was shot by a single nutter assassin who was almost instantly killed by his own assassin. Occam's razor says that the simple answer is the most likely true answer. Of course true and factual are not the same thing. So when someone, especially government types, who operate almost exclusively under reptilian control, offers up old Occam as 'proof' of anything, the aware observer, will smile, and note that complexity is demonstrating itself right here in universe, and someone's inner reptile is having a XXXX fit. So they keep a wary eye focused inward to watch out.

    Other horrors for your inner reptile are rapidly approaching during these times of increasing emotional release language. The inner reptile freaks out over 'insecurity' as that implies death and lack of control, and no more inner reptile which it simply will not allow if it can Fight, Flee, or Freeze. However the human mind aware being notes that none of these tactics will ever succeed in fulfilling the frenzied needs of inner reptilian mind and thus Free it of its incessant drive and the chatter that we call 'monkey mind'. The aware observer also notes that obsessions with odorous order often manifest as fixations on numerals and 'synchronicities'. Such aware observers thus discriminate in mind before manifesting universe clearly demonstrating that while all synchronicities are meaningful, and reveal different aspects of universe, not all are benign. Universe is complex, and complexity comes with in built traps for the unwary or unprepared minds. Universe is complex and comes with both potential and actual manifestations of forces and condensate energies (beings) that are working their own agenda....not all of which are favorable to terrestrial humans.

    Universe, in its expression of complexity increasing as the 'natural state of things', is having one of those 'bloop-d-bloop' moments when the constraint balloons imposed on the collective, working view of reality by TPTB (the powers that be, all of whom are deep reptilian mind types), are going to be a'poppin....an interesting time indeed.

    The release language for this period is shaping up as predicted, and in spite of the many threats from those under control of their personal lizards who wished for calamity all at once, complexity of universe is manifesting alternatively to their preconceptions. This release language period will demonstrate, and is demonstrating what 'release language' does 'feel like'. As forecast.

    Noting that the inner lizard does not know anything about humor, and that part of initiation is to teach how to think other than under inner reptile control, i offer as a replacement image for the current consensus manifesting reality the idea that we are all sitting down in the theater with our pie and drinks (dark roast coffee for me, touch of honey please), while the main event has started on screen. So far we see that TPTB (played by CFR, FED, minions) as Curly, Moe, and Larry, find themselves in a room full of operating fans, and with 3/three (notice how different it feels to read 3/three versus 3 ) shovels and a giant pile of lizard XXXX. Hmmmm...wonder what will happen?

    By the way...we here in the PNW have had weather issues causing communications problems with intermittent net connectivity at best. This will likely resurface for lots of humans across the northern hemisphere (especially northern tier USofA, and northern Europe) as we progress into winter.
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    Post  newel Sat Nov 27, 2010 3:14 pm

    Thank you for the heads up Andromeda. So far, at least locally for me, it's still possible to think that all this release language is just hype, and it's even possible to ignore it, as most people around me happily do. The next 2 months are going to be very interesting.
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    Post  newel Sat Nov 27, 2010 6:36 pm

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    Post  TRANCOSO Sun Nov 28, 2010 2:41 am

    Blowing up the economy
    is the shortest road
    to a cash-free
    society.

    Is the 'microchip implant 666 bible prophecy' agenda, bound to become a reality?
    Perhaps.
    In a Y2K way.

    There's only one real problem that hasn't been solved by TPTB yet, & that's how to keep the next World War non nuclear.
    Read: 'The battle of ideas - Conversations with Fidel Castro: The dangers of a nuclear war.' at http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=21892

    As long as they don't trust eachother, there's no need to worry.
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    Post  lindabaker Sun Nov 28, 2010 7:42 am

    Trancoso, let it be true. As some of my ex husband's family members would say, from your mouth to God's ears.
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    Post  newel Sun Nov 28, 2010 3:06 pm



    Plan B...
    November 28, 2010

    with respect, and awareness, let us begin...

    They, the powers that used to be, are trying it again.

    You know, the whole 'problem, response, solution' thing that they use to control large numbers of mostly hypnotized people on this planet. They create a 'problem' that causes you to go into fear mode which is chemically triggered by the R-complex in your lower brain matrix, and then they control you through your emotions by manipulating events such that you agree to give them your power in exchange for them providing a 'solution' to the 'problem' that they caused.

    They had thought that their 'israel versus iran' problem would be sufficient to lever the planetary populace into a middle east focused global war. It did not work since so many of us were watching for so long.

    More: http://www.halfpasthuman.com/mastery.html
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    This fits with the "secrets revealed"





    Interesting to see that the Arabs are into demising Iran...oh wait a minute, some are capitalists and some are not...
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    An this one with the oppresion of people and supression of free speach



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    Land masses rising



    He also has several videos regarding the Korean issue, too many to post so visit his channel https://www.youtube.com/user/jsnip4 if you are interested

    Is getting rather wacky Shocked speacially with the subcero siberian weather hitting the South East of England...oh man I keep pinching myself cos is sureal pale Rolling Eyes Nutbar
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    Post  lindabaker Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:05 am

    My comments moved to correct thread.


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    Post  newel Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:14 am

    Are you sure you posted in the right thread Linda?
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    Post  Guest Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:18 am

    Mmmm exemmm Dear Linda, this is the wrong thread but never mind

    At the webbot forum they are working on "101 ways to screw over TPTB" so from seeing the facts to changing them with positive ideas....food for thought...maybe a new thread
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    Post  lindabaker Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:36 am

    OOps, sorry, you are right. Wrong thread. As the kids say, my bad. It's early here on the east coast of the us. Not enough java. Shall I leave it alone?
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    Post  newel Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:40 am

    lindabaker wrote:Shall I leave it alone?

    Whatever suits you.

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