Clif High finally DID get something right! DECEIVERS would be outed.....

Linda wrote:

Andromeda wrote:

Linda wrote:

Micjer wrote:
Linda he has posted a statement.

Really?
A new one? at his site?

There are a couple of new posts

1) http://www.halfpasthuman.com/ukemiarts.html this one mentions his intervention in GLP
2) http://www.halfpasthuman.com/mukamae.html this one posted on the 15th

Thanks....already saw those.......was waiting for something AFTER his OUTING on so many forums..........that is what I am looking for............

Can't wait to hear what his monkey mind has to say or try to TWIST........

Linda ,

Thanks for your links . I did not read before link 2 . This links refer to Eric Cantona whose campaign to sink the banks is going viral .
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/news-views-f9/eric-cantona-kill-the-banks-video-t1292.htm

Cliff got it right on this . Eric is becoming a rallying point for the purpose of sinking the rotten banking system . There is a video at
http://maxkeiser.com where Eric explains how protesting in the streets is a useless exercise.....but taking the money out of the banks is more powerful .
Also in the same article Cliff explains that the expected event is totally different in nature to the 9/11 . I still give Cliff the benefit of the doubt on this , because events are still unfolding . But we have already noticed the financial crisis in Ireland and Portugal .

IMHO not only Cantona is a hit, please remember that in another time when the derivatives bubble bursted it appeared that the webbots had failed and they did not

The problem is that people has their own expectations on what should have happened and those expectation can be never fulfilled

If one is to think on the impact of 9/11 and the TSA scanning methods, oh boy it has had a greater impact in our lives, so much so that many are chosing not to fly all together

Additionally to that, think about the derivatives bubble, aren't we still feeling the effects, wasn't that the end of the world as we knew it? how many people are on the loosing side of the equation? People are trapped in their houses, or unemployed and living under a bridge, how many have lost all their assets by being repossessed?

I dread to think of the impact that the end of "buy now pay later" will have...is terrifiying...no more credit

One thing more I wanted to add, Clif have said that he cares nothing about his reputation so carry on with your bad blood as looooooong as you want

In the meantime, it may be that the economic world will be collapsing all around you as China reins in and the emerging markets become sinking markets. If China does not buy the raw materials for its factories, may I ask who will? We are tanking folks...it is economic Armageddon time

I am taking some solace in the fact that if America goes down who will China sell their high quality useless junk to? I mean, where else can you get melamine in your milk from? With a little tweaking, the cow will produce the milk AND the carton in one go . That's progress

America seems to need china at present, who manufactures anything in America anymore? I found a vintage -ish dress a while ago with the old american IGWU (or whatever) label in it, remember those?

I also see that lots of people who used to sound like they knew the score are as confused as I am. It's very hard to know who is running the show just at the economic level with any certainty.
Some of this I feel is down to the emerging cosmic energies of people feeling boundaries dissolving .

I would say China needs us also.

This is an article in regards to the missile that was fired off of California.

IS IT REALLY CHINA?

There is only one reason that the United States didn’t announce the usual “weather balloon” or “box cutters” cover stories. It means that the nation responsible, assuming it is China, warned us that they would go public and that the American military had to live with the humiliation as a punishment.

There is no other explanation. There also is no other “suspect” than China, who has the interests in the Pacific region, the technical capability and the complex “love-hate” relationship with the United States. China finances Americas debt, they are our largest trading partner, certainly our primary business partner in the world today in every way and are still continually presented to the American people as an enemy. Our homes are filled with Chinese products, without China, our local Walmarts would stand empty.
Assuming China, and without a denial from the Pentagon, we must assume China, what could the United States have done to push them this far? Is China telling the United States that we are ‘mad dogs’ ready to be “put down?”

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/11/17/gordon-duff-the-california-mystery-missile/

I hear walmart is now selling local produce. What will they do with the rest of the aisles?,Make a dodgem rink for amigo drivers? ( Translation, bumper cars/ motorised sit on shopping -cartmobiles ) Any road kill could furnish the meats aisles .

anomalous cowherd wrote: I am taking some solace in the fact that if America goes down who will China sell their high quality useless junk to? I mean, where else can you get melamine in your milk from? With a little tweaking, the cow will produce the milk AND the carton in one go . That's progress

America seems to need china at present, who manufactures anything in America anymore? I found a vintage -ish dress a while ago with the old american IGWU (or whatever) label in it, remember those?

I also see that lots of people who used to sound like they knew the score are as confused as I am. It's very hard to know who is running the show just at the economic level with any certainty.
Some of this I feel is down to the emerging cosmic energies of people feeling boundaries dissolving .

I would say China needs us also.

I am not so sure that China needs the US anymore, over the last years China has bought a multitude of interests in South America, Africa, Far East and Europe. China is no longer a poor country, they have a very well stablished and growing middle class

So, it seems that China has played poker with the US economy and won. Their plans are to rein in production and raise interest rates. At best that means more expensive stuff, the end of cheap chinese clothing, nick nacks, ELECTRONICS, white goods, cars, etc, etc, etc.

China is suffering from food prices inflation thanks to the devaluation of the dollar and has decided to reevaluate the yuan, progressively

The problem here is that people are expecting China to behave like a capitalist country but they won't, so that is a fundamental turning point. Same is happening with the Irish that are not following the usual do as you are told with the IMF and EU

If China does not buy the US dollar who will? Countries are already asking to be paid in alternative currencies

There is a lot going under our noses but it is not headlines, it is specialist economic news

The problem is BIG

One must remember that to the Chinese, "Time is not money." They have the patience and long term vision to accomplish their goals. They've been around a lot longer then America and do have clout.

TIPPING POINT IS REAL

It is official, there is inflation in China and they are subsidizing food....oh yeah...back to protectionism
From Bloomberg.com


China Inflation `Volcano' May Prove Too Hot for Controls After Cash Surge
Standing near his 12-table noodle shop on Beijing’s Yonghegong Avenue, owner Liu Heliang says meat and vegetable prices have climbed 10 percent in a year and staff wages are up 40 percent.

“I’m struggling to make ends meet with costs going up like this,” said Liu, a native of Sichuan province who pays his workers as much as 1,800 yuan ($271) a month, or 88 percent more than the Beijing minimum wage, to serve up a staple Chinese meal. “Raising prices is the only way out,” he said, predicting he won’t be able to hold out beyond two months.

Premier Wen Jiabao’s cabinet last week announced it will sell grain, cooking-oil and sugar reserves, ordered an end to tolls on trucks carrying produce and threatened price controls to rein in a 10 percent inflation rate for food. Because the measures would do nothing to counter the 54 percent surge in money supply over the past two years, the risk is they will prove insufficient to cope with the challenge.

“They are just not addressing the fundamental problem at all,” said Patrick Chovanec, an associate professor at Beijing’s Tsinghua University. With the expansion of credit and cash in the economy stemming from China’s response to the global crisis, “you’re sitting on a volcano,” said Chovanec.

The People’s Bank of China has raised its benchmark interest rates once this year, lagging behind Malaysia, Thailand, Taiwan and South Korea as emerging Asian economies led the global economic rebound. Policy makers have instead relied on guidance to banks to scale back lending and on increases in reserve ratios, with the PBOC announcing the fifth boost of the year four days ago
more http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-11-22/china-inflation-volcano-may-prove-too-hot-for-controls-after-cash-surge.html

I would say there are more tipping points right now...
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/news-views-f9/tsa-stooge-touching-child-is-convicted-pedophile-t1293-45.htm#23880

Millions to lose unemployment benefits


http://presstv.com/detail/151820.html

Millions of jobless Americans are expected to lose their unemployment benefits, as lawmakers in the House of Representatives have failed to extend the program.


In eleven days, 800,000 people will lose all their benefits and by the end of the year, 2 million people will join their ranks, a Press TV correspondent reported on Saturday.

House Democrats and Republicans blame each other. Party leaders in Congress disagreed over how the $12.5 billion measure would be funded.

“This is unprecedented,” US unemployment analyst Scott Lilly says.

“We have always gone to extended benefits when we had unemployment above 7 to 7.5 percent. It is 9.5 percent now and we are terminating the program,” he added.

House Republicans and 11 Democrats wanted more spending cuts before they would authorize the extension.

Meanwhile, according to the Department of Labor, the current unemployment rate has been around the stubborn 9.6 percent for weeks, with 14.8 million people looking for work.

In the past 3 years, federal spending for unemployment recipients has reached more than $300 billion.

This comes as the United States is about to start its holiday season and its coldest. Even with the federal government's subsidizing job and welfare programs, nearly one in 5 Americans say they lack the money to buy basic groceries.

Despite the deadlock in Congress, there is still a chance for millions of Americans to receive unemployment checks.

If lawmakers can reach an agreement, the House has two days after this Thursday to pass benefits legislation.

And if you lose your house, and have to live in a tent.......this happens (to people in St Pete's anyway)

The new US is China...

Grain Prices to Soar Pushing Food
By Roger Wiegand

Grain Could Rise +50% In 2011 On Drought, Shortages, Demand, And Weather.

“Soybeans, Palm Oil to Extend Rally on Chinese Purchases, Investment Demand.”

“Global prices of soybeans and palm oil are likely to extend their rally on demand from China, the biggest user, and as investors buy commodities to protect their wealth, said analysts and executives at a Guangzhou conference.” (Editor: We think the whole price sector of all grains and related oils will see price explosions. China will not be denied on either cash or credit).

“The price of July-delivery soybeans may climb to $16 a bushel from $13 should drought occur in the U.S. next summer, said Anne Frick, analyst at Prudential Bache Commodities LLC in New York. Palm oil may extend its rally into 2011, said Godrej International Ltd. Director Dorab Mistry in prepared remarks. He also predicted at the weekend that the price may gain to 3,300 Ringgit ($1,067) per ton, a level reached today.”

“Higher prices may spur costlier food, fanning inflation. World food costs climbed to the highest level in more than two years in October on more expensive meat, cereals, cooking oils and sugar, the United Nations’ Food and Agriculture Organization said. Farm commodity prices, measured by the Standard & Poor’s GSCI Agriculture Index of eight futures, climbed +37% this year as China and India grew three times faster than the U.S.”

“The growth in consumption is in China,” and, by some forecasts, is so rapid that it may test the world’s limited resources, Frick told industry officials. Should the appetite for commodities from cash-rich investors become “wild and crazy” as some executives predicted, the market “could get out of control,” she said.”

‘Soybeans for January delivery were little changed today at $12.8575 a bushel, below the $12.90 a bushel reached on November 5, the highest level for the most active contract in more than two years. Palm oil for January delivery jumped +4.4% to 3,330 Ringgit in Malaysia. The pace of China’s soybean purchases for delivery this marketing year has exceeded expectations, according to Cofco Ltd.”

“More and more companies are buying further into future months” and purchases are larger, said Chang Muping, vice general manager of the oilseed division at Beijing-based Cofco. While Chinese crushers used to buy a few months before shipping, they now buy half a year or more ahead, he said.”

“Soybean costs climbed even as global output increased to a record, signaling prices are more influenced by economic changes such as increased money supply, said Frank Zhou, general manager of protein and vegetable oil trading at Cargill Investments (China) Ltd.”

“The rates of price increases “have surprised me even as I’m bullish,” Zhou said. China’s domestic edible oil market has seen excessive price gains even with large inventories, which are an “overbought” indication, Zhou said.”

“The market will find ways to regain the balance, said Frick. China’s pace of U.S. soybean buying slowed last week, improved weather in South America will speed planting, and a predicted increase in palm oil output may alleviate tightness, she said.”

“The flipside of the question is whether China’s demand in fact supports global prices at these levels,” said Larry Li, trading director at Noble Grain China. “Purely based on fundamentals, these high levels are certainly not supported.” “What worries me is everyone in the room is bullish,” Frick said. “Who’s going to sell?” -William Bi, & Claire Leow Bloomberg.net

We are not ready to forecast 2011 grain and oil prices just yet. However, on a modest forecast we could see preliminarily, corn at $7-$8, soybeans at $16 and wheat at $12.00. Palm oil and soybean oil could be 150% higher in 2011 than the highest highs recorded for 2010.
http://traderrog.wordpress.com/2010/11/20/grain-prices-to-soar-pushing-food/

For the common folks like us this means food inflation...serious food inflation. One of the predictions of the webbots was that food was going to be sooooo expensive that we will see it in the shops but we will be unable to afford it...

As if food inflation was not enough of a hit for the webbots, we have another hit

Dollar to Become World's `Weakest Currency,' Drop to 75 Yen JPMorgan Says

The dollar may fall below 75 yen next year as it becomes the world’s “weakest currency” due to the Federal Reserve’s monetary-easing program, according to JPMorgan & Chase Co.

The U.S. central bank, along with those in Japan and Europe, will keep interest rates at record lows in 2011 as they seek to boost economic growth, said Tohru Sasaki, head of Japanese rates and foreign-exchange research at the second-largest U.S. bank by assets. U.S. policy makers may take additional easing steps following the $600 billion bond-purchase program announced this month depending on inflation and the labor market, he said.

“The U.S. has the world’s largest current-account deficit but keeps interest rates at virtually zero,” Sasaki said at a forum in Tokyo yesterday. “The dollar can’t avoid the status as the weakest currency.”

The Fed said on Nov. 3 it will buy $75 billion of Treasuries a month through June to cap borrowing costs. The central bank has kept its benchmark rate in a range of zero to 0.25 percent since December 2008. The Bank of Japan on Oct. 5 cut its key rate to a range of zero to 0.1 percent and set up a 5 trillion yen ($59.9 billion) asset-purchase fund.

The dollar traded at 83.38 yen as of 12:04 p.m. in Tokyo after falling to a 15-year low of 80.22 on Nov. 1. The greenback declined to post-World War II low of 79.75 yen in April 1995. The U.S. currency has declined against 12 of its 16 most-traded counterparts this year, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.

More here http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-11-18/dollar-to-become-world-s-weakest-currency-drop-to-75-yen-jpmorgan-says.html

That is what one calls double wammy

ok andromeda, no need for glp,you are my new financial advisor, you seem to have a handle on it, but the dollar is up for today, against the pound anyway.
But do you have an allotment? Can you imagine if they tried to pull the weird food shizzle bill s510 on us here in Blighty and said no more homegrowing?

anomalous cowherd wrote:ok andromeda, no need for glp,you are my new financial advisor, you seem to have a handle on it, but the dollar is up for today, against the pound anyway.
But do you have an allotment? Can you imagine if they tried to pull the weird food shizzle bill s510 on us here in Blighty and said no more homegrowing?

I am not really a financial advisor, only an observer of trends. I used to do forecasting in my old job and kinda like to see in the future a bit

Things are not going to happen all the sudden, that is not the way the economy works. To make a buck on differential trade you really need insider info and I am out of the loop now

The best advise is to pay debts, buy food and prepare for an unusual life, kinda voluntary downsizing. If you can grow food now is the time. Ornamental vegetable gardens are the rage

Perhaps the flights of fancy brought by the internet culture are about to turn into a more subsistence driven economy and the old farmers that were keeping the wilderness here will go back to grow food? who knows. The EU may change its policy and encourage farming again so there is less dependency of imports. They are pushing for GMo but there are many resisting, still, I doubt that there will ever be a s510 here, the government itself encourages that one grows food and gives seeds away to people who can not afford that like pensioners with allotments. It is a different culture at least in Britain. Groeing food is encouraged as a way of taking exercise

On the other hand, if prices of things go up that will create industries too as labour will be more equivalent but it is early days

I don't think the banks will disappear, there will be different rules and credit will be like in the early 90's which may totally kill the housing market and its satellite industries. US is something different and will be more painful all together, what happened in the UK in the 50's may well happen in the US and that means learning to live with less comforts. Like with the fall of the Roman empire, life goes on only different

These are my thoughts for the moment related to the economy only. If there are earth changes things can get exponentially complicated like if there is a black out of electricity due to CME's

I don't know if anyone has noticed but for the first time in my lifetime I don't see 3rd world countries asking for financial help. The ones in trouble are developed countries...weird eh? Like in the early 1900's

I don't know if anyone has noticed but for the first time in my lifetime I don't see 3rd world countries asking for financial help.

Reminds me of my Mennonite neighbours who live without electricity. If the power grid goes down, their life does not change. Same can be said of 3rd world countries. (that is those within the country doing without)

America has never had a war on its own soil, apart from the civil war, so their psyche is untested in certain ways. They need to knit some bollocks FAST to withstand what is in the pipeline.

The Brits proved to themselves how working together in hardship is the way to sustain and can even be enjoyable. The youth may be uncouth flabby TV watching alcho zombies but there are still some elders to show how to do it. I love the allotment culture and my small town is riddled with them. I almost wish my garden was smaller so I could have one.

I think the line "and the meek shall inherit the earth " is ringing in a few ears, but I always wonder, will we want it when they have finished with it?

Hi everyone

Hope you don't mind that I get this thread back on topic with an update.

I realize there are many people who still want to believe that Clif did no wrong and was right about his "tipping point" and then point out ALL the terrible things that are currently going on.

Of course there are lots of horrible things happening and it's not getting any better.
Most of us have done our homework and are aware.
Yes, we must all prepare in our own way for the changes.

Getting back to Clif......
The fact is that he has been EXPOSED.

Many knew about his deception for years, shared it, but were ignored.
I am just glad that people are starting to wake up on how these deceivers operate.

Jeff Rense now has 4 links on his site and the latest one is directed to Clif.

Rense is waiting for Clif to come out of hiding and respond to the evidence.
I think this is a big deal for Rense to do this.
Hopefully Clif will make a statement soon because this is not going away.

This is on Rense's site as of today:

*Phen Speaks To Clif High
*Meet Baldrishi - You Know Him As Clif High
*Clif High HalfPastHuman, Bill Deagle & Blog Wars

*Clif High's Reponse/Rebuttal Welcome Here 11-22-10

As with all controversies, we stand ready to post any and all rebuttals and responses from people mentioned in the material we post.
So far, we have not be able to find any such material regarding the posts on GodLikeProductions

http://www.rense.com/general92/clif.htm

I am posting this here because it has some connections here but also on the missle fired off Calif.

These ideas are just a connecting of dots and maybe completely wrong, so please don't jump on my head because it is only a suggestion. I am not backing anybody, such as Clif, but lets just gather the facts.

Ok Clif has had his cover blown. Was he working for the PTB or was he just feathering his nest, he could even be just a revolutionist of the peaceful kind qnd he just wanted to give the movement a push start????? Questions questions question.

So for the dots.

Clif had this tipping point thing, lots of people in the world was up for the info. Building tension, to take someones phrase.

Obama headed off with a whole fleet of things Boats People etc. He was is South Korea. Now I don't know the direction of the missle that was sent off Calif. Lets just presume that it was an American missile. A little Nuke that would take out Obama and start a conflict in Korea. Which has started this morning.

The Americans could call it on China or North Korea. This would have fitted the whole set up, from Clif, Simpsons, Missile and opening of the war between the US and Asia.

The fly in the salad dressing was that someone at ABC got wind of this and filmed the thing. This blew the whole thing out of the water. The US are now trying to say it was a plane, as not to offend the Chinese and not to get caught by its own people as to the false flag operation. The thing about the UFO stopping it was just the opportunists trying to get as much attention for their movement.

Although Clif was off his rails, he may not have been too far from the truth. May be he knew that truth thats what made him stop his thing. This has put the US in a very weak position in all respects.

So we can be thankful to the thwauting of the plan or just that Clif is a nutter that rode a fine wave of deciet??

I think it is the first, and we have just started to see the reprocussion of the situation.

The Chinese is a major owner of the US debt. They don't want the Dollar to fall just yet. So they are calling the shots. They have told the EU to back off on knocking out the dollar. China is now running the show. The Economic war has started its final faise. If you look what was going on in China during 2004-2007 there were major conflicts in the banking world. Recently about the false money exchange rates.


As I said I am not backing anyone and I think Clif has been taken for a ride as much as he has taken others for a ride, me included. Just as interesting putting the dots together as listening to HPH.

Enjoy,

t

I'm not mad at Clif, he did not deceive me, I never paid for any reports, I liked listening to him talk. he has a way with words, the pie was a nice touch, as were the space goat farts ...

If Coleen Thomas had said what she said in an even manner, giving way LESS information, less cleavage, heck, let's go with no visibility, part of clif's charm dontcha think? the mystique?... people might think she was connected to some prophetic tool or org.

Think about it, anyone here could have put out Clif's information, all one would need would be the spin, the hubris, the umiak, and the (most likely) fictitious webbot itself. Why do we need to make him either all powerful or a villain? I never gave him any power so I don't need it back.

I think people believed it because he pulled together what we alredy know in the research community, he just tied it up with a bow. and a gadget. sheesh.

Brook wrote:

Mercuriel wrote:Uhhhmmm...

HPH and our shape reports have become so infamous that propagation and pollution of our data stream is a reality.

Is this not what Brook - Lion - I and others were saying about the potential scewing of the Webbot Reports and how it can be done ?

Clif himself has now admitted as much...

In some places that would be called a Slam Dunk...

Imagine that...........

*Cough Cough*,



Well i did say he was a manure salesman, sooner or later its going to blow up in your face.

actually i need some manure, what does he charge? I know he delivers...

I don't know but this bunch of news seems to be a series of related events …
we are in a downward spiral . If Ireland or Greece will abandon the Euro , the EU will dissolve and I say great news .


SNIP
"Irish PM Dissolves Government; Spanish Banks Face Debt Challenge; Greece May "Shut-Down"; Meaning of "Guarantee"; Should Ireland Ditch the Euro?


Things continue to simmer in Europe with problems appearing on multiple fronts in Ireland, Spain, Portugal, and Greece.

Here are a few of highlights: Irish Prime Minister Brian Cowen announced he would step down once a series of fiscal packages and budgets were in place next month; Portugal Struggles to Meet Deficit Goal; High Frequency Economics Ltd. says Greece May ‘Shut Down’ on Cash Shortage.

After a look at a few articles I take a look at suggestions for Ireland to abandon the Euro, and a critical look at the meaning of "guarantee".

Irish Leader to Dissolve Government After Budget Passes

The New York Times reports, Irish Leader to Dissolve Government After Budget Passes. "

The rest at :


http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2010/11/irish-pm-dissolves-government-spanish.html

http://www.themistsofavalon.net/news-views-f9/mexico-curbs-use-of-dollars-11-13-10-t1275.htm