Aliens and Eugenics

ceridwen wrote:
Some human invasions were particular shocking, for example, European ancestors arriving in Central and South America might have looked like outer space beings to the indigenous people. Vessels and horses were unknown to them. To that followed horrendous massacres which created a memory in the ethers. I think the same at a different level might have happened in North America. Notice most of the alien meme comes from the Americas

The new world has new religions, many of them based around the alien theme. The Mormons believe that the earth will be celestialised and that men can become as god on the Planet Kolob. It is very much an alienist religion mixed in with a bit a bit of freemasonry and moral rectitude. Most Ufo cults originate in the United states, often blended with fascism and other right wing ideology. It is a huge business and the origin of much nonsense.

There is a lot of information on the ethers when you tune in the natural time, stones are very good record keepers. I have not been able to find thus far any records of space ships. I have been in Avebury and Stonehenge many times. I even traveled to Wales and visited the Preseli mountains. Invasions a plenty from humans but not from outer space


The stones are wise. Averbury is fine but I would recommend castlerigg. A visit to Glastonbury Tor on the St Michael ley line is essential, especially on a clear day. There are some fine standing stones in north west Wales that are worth a visit.

At one point there was a tear between the world of the Sidhe and our world which many account for aliens and cause all sort of Earth changes, the clearest memory I found was in the Heartlands, Devon. That was plugged in and sealed millenia ago. It will take much more than CERN to open that up again as far as I can sense

I also went to the Temple of Vesta in Rome but apart from the usual war patterns I did not sense anything that I didn't knew already

Vesta is a dried food food company in the UK that sells curries and chow mein

The Sidhe also have taken steps to sort out weaknesses of their own worlds after the end of their wars

Do the Sidhe also make dried foods?

I would say that the only reason we have an active alien meme is because the rulers need a cover up for their secret planes program. The meme was implanted by books and movies

Aye, without a shadow of doubt Hollywood has played a huge rule in implanting the alien archetype into the psyche along with misinformation and counterknowledge.

The shadow of humanity will disappear when we stop feeding it with our fear. It is possible too that it will be greatly diminished by stellar energies that have been coming for a while. That could be a possible explanation for people awakening from their inner self-created prisons

There is also work being done across the world to heal the wounds that wars caused. All cultures are involved in this healing

Could you expand on this please

Alternatively, it is possible that people are channeling dis-encarnated entities of those that refuse to transition to other worlds. It is not uncommon for strong personalities of disturbed people to linger and have a laugh at the expense of those they can influence. Subtle matter take longer to decay if it is not cremated

Demons and ghouls like to hang around and wear the costumes of various imaginations]

ceridwen wrote: What kind of food it has? How about the seasons? The sun(s)? etc but I have been given no answers

ceridwen wrote:

There is nothing new in ETs theories, they all seem to be copy cat of movies and books. Idealized societies like in Star Trek, no originality at all

ceridwen wrote:Hi Sanicle, I don't know you nor I know Floyd outside this forum

We do seem to have a contrarian perspective on the alien meme that is supported by many in this forum. I think people are in their own journeys and will have their own experiences. I have my own experiences too but not with aliens

I do admire Floyd for his courage bringing on this matter forward for people to ponder, it is rare

In the past I have tried to ask ET followers things like: what do you know about the planet they may take you? How do you know your body will survive the experience? Which is the name of the planet? Which are the coordinates? What kind of habitat it has? What kind of food it has? How about the seasons? The sun(s)? etc but I have been given no answers

I do not know anyone in the ET movement which has had a one to one on the flesh with any ET. And I do have friends that are devouted to the movement

Instead I do know loads of people who have a relationship with their ancestors and totem animals

Further research has indicated that there is no supporting evidence for visitations. Lately Peter Levenda has made it clear that he belonged to the Catholic Orthodox Church in New York and that he knows first hand that Area 51 was made up by the Vatican to cover up the crash of one of their secret planes. It does not get more clear than that IMHO

Floyd is coming from a different perspective in his sociological investigation about the motives and modus operandi of ET groups and I have to agree that they are suprematist, concrete evidence is just too overwhelming

I have no doubt that there are many habited planets in the cosmos but, there is no concrete evidence whatsoever that those beings are visiting us. Only heresay

Channelers descriptions are not logical. They are too human, too pyramidal, too bossy IMHO

It has never been my intention to upset anyone, just to deepen my understanding of the hypothesis that say that there is no alien visitation

Peace

Floyd wrote:What are your feelings on eugenics and depopulation Carol? Is it a necessary evil?

I don't believe in depopulation and know that there are ways to sustain everyone on the planet. The greedy are the bottle neck as they seek to exploit others for personal gain. And I'm not a socialist either. However, if everyone had the means to grow their own food and free 'clean' energy was made available the GP that would likely clear up a major percentage of the worlds problems.

Do the aliens you have had experiences with suggest such things or do they offer an alternative or just the status quo?

There are different groups with different agendas. One group is seeking to put their hybrids on the planets surface after some type of major type natural event that takes out much of the world population. From everything I've gleaned from various contactees they do not seek to destroy humanity. Some wish to help humanity while some seek to exploit and others just seek to avoid .

Do you think that the messages (of sterilisation) are unethical?

From a personal perspective I do believe in the sterilization of both men and woman who have children irresponsibly and expect the general population to pay for these children's care. For instance, one youth in high school impregnated 4 girls within the span of 12 months. Or the man who fathered 30 children from various woman and wanted help with child support. So yes, sterilization should be an option for those who reproduce irresponsibly - especial for those improvised woman in the US having children as a means to collect welfare money. I'd like to add that I think large Personally I like large families but chose not to have one for a variety of reasons.

What clear messages have you received that may suggest otherwise?

None

Im very interested. Where do they come from? What are their names? Your aliens that is.

Hah! The 64 million dollar question. They didn't say.

Can you communicate with them? You say you dont know.

During the encounter they ask questions at a telepathic level so rapidly that I'm just responding back telepathically - not hearing the specific question. They were in complete control as they have a means to scan both hemispheres of the brain and download every thought, memory and emotion. It was just a one time experience. As far as I know, I don't communicate with them. If I was taken I've no recall of that happening either.

And by the way, the divide and conquer argument doest wash with me.., in this context its pure segregation and elimination and shouldn't be dressed up as divide an conquer. This is one of the mechanisms used by extreme right wing groups.

Perhaps.

The fact is that this alienist philosophy is right wing full stop and end of story and it probably has nothing to do to with outer space or ETs.

Again, I don't know about this. I only know what various contactees have to share about their various experiences. I've often thought that any ET experience that comes through tends to take on the some of the personal view of the experiencer. Meaning the message can easily enough be distorted. In my encounter they wanted to know if I would protect one of their hybrids that I had come to know personally. After ET contact I stopped communication with this person as I didn't wish to risk my own safety.


You either agree with it or you dont so who cares what they are trying to divide or conquer.

Even aliens have their Gods.

Some do and some don't. In fact some view god as the creator who never dies.

devakas wrote:

Where we are going on this thread?

Floyd wrote:

devakas wrote:

Where we are going on this thread?

Hello Devakas. I can see you are having a great time here!.

What we are examining here is the relationship between alleged alien messages and their connections to social engineering and genetic manipulation on the basis of racial superiority.

Furthermore, can we accept these messages as coming from a bona fide non human source, especially when they are affiliated to right wing extremists and promoters of eugenics a la Nazi. But of course eugenics and their adherents were well in place before the Nazis. In some ways it could be said the philosophy of eugenics influenced the Nazis before they even thought of it properly.


namaste and cheers

ceridwen wrote:While I do not share John Lamb Lash philosophy, I must say that this interview with Thomas Sheridan is very clear in what is related to the alien deception. A must listen, great eye opener

http://blogtalk.vo.llnwd.net/o23/show/3/285/show_3285875.mp3