Every single time you disagree with someone you call it "secondhand" and act like your more spiritually advanced. Why can't you just respect others opinions? It's not spiritually advanced to call people "secondhand" every time you disagree in this passive aggressive crap. That's Floyd opinion and I respect it. Oh and btw Icecold former member of the Aticus 18 pmed me in the past, and tried to get me involved looking into Inelia. They thought their influence over Bill was decreasing and were trying to discredit Inelia in my opinion. For the record I have a low regard for both Charles and Inelia, and didn't want to get involved with AV2, because I dislike all 3 of them. Their plan failed though and they lost influence. Charles should be a man and build his own community once again.
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Lad of the North- Posts : 23
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Wow some getting a little touchy feely about Steven Hodges here why doesn`t he just present himself and speak for himself ? I was bummed out when he didn`t show up with my christmas gift he promised to bring me
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Floyd wrote:That is very much a subject for debateTHEeXchanger wrote:he was a puppet
He had a lot more more power than conspiracy theorists think he had as did his minions.
He was no puppet. The politics of pre nazi Germany is profound.
I doubt he the Nazi movement was controlled by anyone less by those who contrived it. And it did not come from occult societies as some would have us believe.
Floyd go online and research The Transfer Agreement it took place before the Jews were rounded up It was the negotiated release of a Zionist fraction of Jews who were allowed to leave Germany with their wealth entact . Who is the most wealthy Zionist family on the planet ? The House of Rothschild> who negotiated the boundaries with the British for the creation of the state of Israel ? why none other the Rothschild himself. Who assisted Hitler by financing the war effort in the fatherland ............ Guess who Rothschild and he was the one who ordered the death of the Jews . Want to know something even greater research the Russian Revolution and the massive number of people who were killed there at the hands of you got it Russian Jews . It makes the nazi`s look like amateurs
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Owlsden wrote:.or you can find out and KNOW the damned truth.
Well this would mean joining the "organization" would it not?
Hey i did join the organization and found out all kinds of things while there and from other members of the 18 that stepped down even have pics of Hodges he is not at all like he is preceived too be very frail looking man
Jenetta- Posts : 1978
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As posted already on the Egyptian Folklore Thread:
Brook thank you for revealing more of you...truthfully I've never quite understood you however now after watching the Ammach video I see what you are trying to do in this life...I made the "victim or martyr" remark because I knew it would draw you out about this whole fiasco...and like everyone else here at the Mists I was appalled that you deleted your data and maybe angry about that too.
I know what it feels like where defamation of character is happening and like you I'm not a person who wants to be a "carpet" for everyone else to walk all over with malicious gossip.
I feel with this Atticus1 group and the 18 I was of the impression that Charles at the Project Avalon 2 forum was the guiding light for bringing the 18 into being...and here on the Mists we heard so much of Charlie's nefarious doings at Avalon. Maybe this is why not too many stepped up to the plate to support you.
Anybody have a peace pipe? I could do with a puff...
I wish you and Lionhawk all the best...you are very lucky to be able to remember your karmic role (no matter how horrid it was) in a past Egyptian life.
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Brook thank you for revealing more of you...truthfully I've never quite understood you however now after watching the Ammach video I see what you are trying to do in this life...I made the "victim or martyr" remark because I knew it would draw you out about this whole fiasco...and like everyone else here at the Mists I was appalled that you deleted your data and maybe angry about that too.
I know what it feels like where defamation of character is happening and like you I'm not a person who wants to be a "carpet" for everyone else to walk all over with malicious gossip.
I feel with this Atticus1 group and the 18 I was of the impression that Charles at the Project Avalon 2 forum was the guiding light for bringing the 18 into being...and here on the Mists we heard so much of Charlie's nefarious doings at Avalon. Maybe this is why not too many stepped up to the plate to support you.
Anybody have a peace pipe? I could do with a puff...
I wish you and Lionhawk all the best...you are very lucky to be able to remember your karmic role (no matter how horrid it was) in a past Egyptian life.
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Lad of the North wrote:Owlsden wrote:.or you can find out and KNOW the damned truth.
Well this would mean joining the "organization" would it not?
Hey i did join the organization and found out all kinds of things while there and from other members of the 18 that stepped down even have pics of Hodges he is not at all like he is preceived too be very frail looking man
OK smarty-pants, I'll bite. Stop teasing. Who is Steven Hodges???
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Sanicle wrote:Lad of the North wrote:Owlsden wrote:.or you can find out and KNOW the damned truth.
Well this would mean joining the "organization" would it not?
Hey i did join the organization and found out all kinds of things while there and from other members of the 18 that stepped down even have pics of Hodges he is not at all like he is preceived too be very frail looking man
OK smarty-pants, I'll bite. Stop teasing. Who is Steven Hodges???
Why none other then Charles /Atticus
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Cool Lad of the North. 
I thought you might have been an acquaintance of our friend Floyd instead and was referring your comment to him. Interesting. Thanks for replying. 
Just realized....who was the man in the vid with b.rian then?? Oh, he's supposed to have cancer isn't he? Maybe he's become thin because of that? Hope that's not the case. Don't wish cancer on anyone.
I thought you might have been an acquaintance of our friend Floyd instead and was referring your comment to him. Interesting. Thanks for replying. Just realized....who was the man in the vid with b.rian then?? Oh, he's supposed to have cancer isn't he? Maybe he's become thin because of that? Hope that's not the case. Don't wish cancer on anyone.
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Sanicle wrote:Cool Lad of the North.
Just realized....who was the man in the vid with b.rian then?? Oh, he's supposed to have cancer isn't he? Maybe he's become thin because of that? Hope that's not the case. Don't wish cancer on anyone.
Steve Hodges is his real name for some reason they don`t like his info getting out Hell i even have pics of his face but its the same guy as in the Video with Bryan
Looks a tad like Boy George with out make up
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Oh, OK, I can see it now. Thank you. It's good to be able to put a face to this guy who seems to have caused so much heartache here and elsewhere. Maybe he doesn't want his photo shown because those who see it can send energy to him directly. Must say, seeing him is not helping me to feel any more gracious towards him either..worse if anything. Hmmm.
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investigator wrote:Every single time you disagree with someone you call it "secondhand" and act like your more spiritually advanced. Why can't you just respect others opinions? It's not spiritually advanced to call people "secondhand" every time you disagree in this passive aggressive crap
Ah yes the LIon. Just ever so slightly passive aggressive lol.
Always blaming someone else for disagreeing with his omniscience and spoiling the forum.
Anyway thats not really that interesting and not why we are here.
And yes Investigator your longer post was somewhat correct.
I was merely connecting the dots between white supremacy in the I AM religions, neo nazism and white supremacism in football hooliganism.
Then we have Charles connections with football hooliganism and its connections to white supremacy and right wing, neo nazi political groups as well as Charles connections to ST Germainism which is most definitely associated with white supremacy and right wing politics (especially) in the USA.
Its most unfortunate he chose to affiliate himself with both is it not? Or is that just a coincidence?
Then we have Charles psychopathic past and his history of threatening people and the chaos that ensues wherever he goes.
Really. Who would want to follow a man like that?
Then we have the notion of spiritual elitism with the so called 18. or the notion that an elect group can somehow be of more import than those who have been doing for a long time what they have only been talking about doing. (The 18 have had more line ups than Yes)and its drama surrounding them and their highly dubious leader is bloody farcical. Frankly who's in it and who isnt I find irrelevant and boring. Its their choice but I dont see the need for them. The work is already happening without them. Perhaps they would be better to go about their business diligently and quietly and without their controversial founder.
In all fairness, the only thing I have seen the 18 successfully achieve during their short tenure, is to go from forum to forum causing disruption and acrimony.
Not particularly constructive.
To me there are those around the world quietly going about their business in service to humanity and the planet that are the ones that make the difference. No fanfare, no forums, no controversy, just honesty, no threats just hard work and humility. And no one will ever know their names. They wont be on a list. There are many more than 18 of them and they exist in all corners of the planet. Working in nature, ecology, science and the arts. With them there is no hullabaloo
Im sure here are members of this forum doing their bit but feel not the need to advertise it. In fact im pretty certain of it (no matter what Lionhawk says or thinks being presumptuous as is usual).
So if you want to do something..just do it without the drama of interrupting forum after forum and get on with it.
If anyone is going to make a difference it will be in that way.
I dont think any one was calling Brook a white supremacist least of all me.
I agree fully investigator, it was elite spiritual circles that helped to destroy the original Project Avalon.
Stuart Wilde is always a good read on the problems of spiritual elitism and holy naval gazing. Very funny.
Alice Bailey for all her faults bless her, also wrote about it the Problem of Glamour (glamor). The notion of ones ego and sense of self importance taking over the individuals spiritual quest.
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investigator wrote: Oh and btw Icecold former member of the Aticus 18 pmed me in the past, and tried to get me involved ....
I dont think there was anyone he didnt pm as he was playing people of each other on various forums lol.
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Jenetta wrote:Carol wrote:JesterTerrestrial wrote:
Idiot
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
An idiot = someone who acts in a self-defeating or significantly counterproductive way.
Yup. That would describe my brothers to a tee. A pair of idiots.
Well I have just finished reading a lot of "verbal diarrhea" from page 16 to page 25 and finally found something I could respond to...Carol I have the same problem with my brothers:cheers: ...and I can relate to Shiloh's recent comment on this thread...it definitely has been a week of confusion and miscommunication Jan 15 - 21st/2012.
Now I'm off to bed:sleep: Oh yes...some pages did give me a good giggle
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Indeed Jenetta and here is a Bacon encoded message for Brook; now the Year of the Water Dragon has officially begun at 7:39 UCT with the Aquarian Sun Full Moon, which is 5 hours ago from the posting of this message.
PS: For all concerned here' This is in fact a 'cosmically stipulated' Week of Confusions or WOC and spanning from
Sunday, January 15th to January 22nd, 2012.
This also coincides with the New Year of the Chinese Waterdragon on January 23rd, 2012 btw.
So I may ask for all concerned here to take this into your considerations in regards to bannings and leavings and being upset about things which might all resolve themselves in time and when better communications become feasible.
ThE RaiNS oF AbbA'S curse Are fallIng uNtO moROnIC foRGetFullneSS !
[10:56:30 PM] Tonyblue: This Encoded Bacon Cipher Binary can be decoded by using Bacon's 24-tier standard alphabet encoding structure!
22+11+22=55
55=SKY=HEAVEN=SATAN=JUDAS=BARBELO=SONG=CLOUD=20122102
The Bacon Alphabet uses combinatorics in the Binomial Series expansion and a 5-letter code so allows 1+5+10+10+5+1=32 members of the alphabet. I conformed to the standard in this code and set i=j and u=v for 24 members and so omitting the usage of 8 additional characters of the binomial coefficients, which define the number of permutations in the A's and the B's .
5&0 A's become defined in the first and sixth polynomial coefficient as 1; 4&1 A's form the second and fifth polynomial coefficient in 5 and 3&2 A's complete the expansion in 10 such coefficients as the third and fourth polynomial terms.
Because the Bacon code uses a binary form of A=0 and B=1 and so associates the ABBA-BAAB alphanumerics say; I bothered with it to show the enquirers, what this is all about.
Some might so be able to decipher this most basic code with a little dligence and application.
Otherwise the secret message will remain - well a secret! But Mudra knows it!
ThE RaiNS oF AbbA'S curse Are fallIng uNtO moROnIC foRGetFullneSS !
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacon's_cipher
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Jenetta wrote:As posted already on the Egyptian Folklore Thread:
Brook thank you for revealing more of you...truthfully I've never quite understood you however now after watching the Ammach video I see what you are trying to do in this life...I made the "victim or martyr" remark because I knew it would draw you out about this whole fiasco...and like everyone else here at the Mists I was appalled that you deleted your data and maybe angry about that too.
I know what it feels like where defamation of character is happening and like you I'm not a person who wants to be a "carpet" for everyone else to walk all over with malicious gossip.
I feel with this Atticus1 group and the 18 I was of the impression that Charles at the Project Avalon 2 forum was the guiding light for bringing the 18 into being...and here on the Mists we heard so much of Charlie's nefarious doings at Avalon. Maybe this is why not too many stepped up to the plate to support you.
Anybody have a peace pipe? I could do with a puff...
I wish you and Lionhawk all the best...you are very lucky to be able to remember your karmic role (no matter how horrid it was) in a past Egyptian life.
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Thank you Jeanetta. I will take that peace pipe and have long hard draw on it. Because when Mercuriel comes back and sees the damage I did I'm really going to want to hide in a corner.
Carol sent me an email and one sentence was.." So what was the dynamic in play here that triggered such a deep grief response? " I think I probably should seek that one out.
But I will say this. It's beyond having opinions here by the peanut factory that is contained in using the Mists as a rumor mill. It's one thing to suggest with some kind of certainty. A whole other thing to direct malicious and totally unfounded innuendo. For which I was working to dispel such nonsense. Such as the notion of spiritual elitism with the so called 18. Or connections to this group Catch 18 or whatever it's name is. The premise of 'saving the world"....that nonsense. Because it does not exist.
The fact that this lad of the north Northernboy can freely come and go in his manic rages at Atticus1 is only one more proof we don't slight anybody. He in fact posts there whenever he feels the urge. So that controlling elitism that is suggested does not exist. He's free to be a total fool if he so chooses...and does so often enough. And yet has also used Atticus1 as a platform for his own free speech of Freeman material and has been encouraged to do so.
The thing that disturbed me the most is that floyd is now in his glory to add that verbal diarrhea and use this forum as a platform to do so is also proof. And to my amazement was very successful at doing the very thing I felt the Mists was above.
Now the opportunity was here...and the circus began. NO one else is going to come here to convince anybody of a thing here. That's done... so Northernboy go back to nexus and give yourself a cigar. If you wish to talk to Stephen you know how to contact him.
To Instigator...secondhand has nothing to do with spiritualism. It has to do with getting information from an indirect source. Then perpetuating said information and basically creating soemthing esle...such as the things Floyd has perpetuated here. I'm sorry to say but the inference in this thread of connecting eliteist nazi groups such as this combat 18 and Stephen or the group of 18 who are working to set up a site for some pretty cool purposes does not exist. but Floyd is not only using this forum to make lists... and direct this thought...he's becoming successful at it.
If you'll recall....there was another man who made lists and said it was for the sake of truth and honor and the like. Got a whole nation to follow him with that list... and became very famous. RUMOR has it his death was faked and he ended up in South America to live out the last of his days. Do you think he held tightly to that list? How's that list going floyd?
If anything upset me the most it's that the Mists is being used in such a way as this. I think we are all much better than this. Because I hold this place in my heart when I see such misuse of this forum for such nonsense rumor..... I really want to fight for the forum not the subject. As I know what the 18 is about and it's not this. No matter what nonsense rumor is being spread.
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Lad of the North wrote:
Hey i did join the organization and found out all kinds of things while there and from other members of the 18 that stepped down even have pics of Hodges he is not at all like he is perceived too be very frail looking man
What did you glean from your experiences Lad of the North? Where you personally threatened by him or do you know of others who where and in what way? Do you know of anyone who has been traumatised by his behaviour?
We know he said he stabbed his religious teacher at school and has admitted to a murderous past. His involvement in football hooliganism would have have seen take part in some horrific violence. I have friends of friends who were Chelsea Headhunters.
In what way have ex members been treated. Why is the forum closed. Can you give us more information on the 5,000 year old skin shedding Master. Is it St Germain.
Thanks.
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Floyd wrote:Lad of the North wrote:
Hey i did join the organization and found out all kinds of things while there and from other members of the 18 that stepped down even have pics of Hodges he is not at all like he is perceived too be very frail looking man
What did you glean from your experiences Lad of the North? Where you personally threatened by him or do you know of others who where and in what way? Do you know of anyone who has been traumatised by his behaviour?
We know he said he stabbed his religious teacher at school and has admitted to a murderous past. His involvement in football hooliganism would have have seen take part in some horrific violence. I have friends of friends who were Chelsea Headhunters.
In what way have ex members been treated. Why is the forum closed. Can you give us more information on the 5,000 year old skin shedding Master. Is it St Germain.
Thanks.
Ahh...yes....perpetuate the rumor.... And drag the Mists down with you.... Stellar Floyd! Get ready to add to your LIST....Northernboy will surely love this. This is what he lives for lately....He will become manic in the process. It will be quite a show. He'll be more than happy to help you with your list.
Members of the Mists......Just watch now what you brother Floyd is bringing to your front door.
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[quote="Brook"]
This statement is total rubbish. I recall you being one of the busiest contributors to the Full of Crap Files and you were enjoying yourself. frankly I have nothing else to say to you or your mate as Im certainly not missing anything of note anyway..
Why dont the 18 keep themselves to their little closed forum and spare the rest of us.
Floyd this floyd that blah blah blah. Good lord spare me.
Again I would so most people who spend their time in service work to the planet and humanity do so with humility and anonymity.
It is just so totally unnecessary to do it that way.
In the end what will be will be.
Jenetta wrote: but Floyd is not only using this forum to make lists...
This statement is total rubbish. I recall you being one of the busiest contributors to the Full of Crap Files and you were enjoying yourself. frankly I have nothing else to say to you or your mate as Im certainly not missing anything of note anyway..
Why dont the 18 keep themselves to their little closed forum and spare the rest of us.
Floyd this floyd that blah blah blah. Good lord spare me.
Again I would so most people who spend their time in service work to the planet and humanity do so with humility and anonymity.
It is just so totally unnecessary to do it that way.
In the end what will be will be.
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You do of course realize that Northenboy has searched out and posted personal information without a care of who he hurt? Such as the address of one said Gypsywoman? And another who he thought was the address of Stephen...
And by posting pictures without consent puts people in danger? He'll be happy to tell you all about it. He thrives on this. Just wait to see what Floyd and Investigator have brought to your door here at the Miss now....whoa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And all I wanted to do was dispel the rumor of racism within the group. silly me...
And by posting pictures without consent puts people in danger? He'll be happy to tell you all about it. He thrives on this. Just wait to see what Floyd and Investigator have brought to your door here at the Miss now....whoa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And all I wanted to do was dispel the rumor of racism within the group. silly me...
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[quote="Floyd"]
Yep...until I saw the direction such a list was going.... And this new angle of said list is quite revealing Floyd.
Brook wrote:Jenetta wrote: but Floyd is not only using this forum to make lists...
This statement is total rubbish. I recall you being one of the busiest contributors to the Full of Crap Files and you were enjoying yourself. frankly I have nothing else to say to you or your mate as Im certainly not missing anything of note anyway..
Why dont the 18 keep themselves to their little closed forum and spare the rest of us.
Floyd this floyd that blah blah blah. Good lord spare me.
Again I would so most people who spend their time in service work to the planet and humanity do so with humility and anonymity.
It is just so totally unnecessary to do it that way.
In the end what will be will be.
Yep...until I saw the direction such a list was going.... And this new angle of said list is quite revealing Floyd.
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Brook wrote:You do of course realize that Northenboy has searched out and posted personal information without a care of who he hurt? Such as the address of one said Gypsywoman? And another who he thought was the address of Stephen...
And by posting pictures without consent puts people in danger? He'll be happy to tell you all about it. He thrives on this. Just wait to see what Floyd and Instigator have brought to your door here at the Miss now....whoa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And all I wanted to do was dispel the rumor of racism within the group. silly me...
You are starting to sound a little Manic Brook.
Well we dont wont Northern boy posting personal information. Just a simple request for his side of the story. No what is wrong with that?
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Floyd wrote:Brook wrote:You do of course realize that Northenboy has searched out and posted personal information without a care of who he hurt? Such as the address of one said Gypsywoman? And another who he thought was the address of Stephen...
And by posting pictures without consent puts people in danger? He'll be happy to tell you all about it. He thrives on this. Just wait to see what Floyd and Instigator have brought to your door here at the Miss now....whoa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And all I wanted to do was dispel the rumor of racism within the group. silly me...
No I'm quite calm I'll just sit back and watch the show
You are starting to sound a little Manic Brook.
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rick there as u know him lad from the north
posted a womans address with comments akin to inciting violence
as a direct result some one smashed her window in with a brick
while her teen age daughter was home alone
keep in mind he thought this was atticus's address
so please dont take your facts from someone who targets women and children
and for the record id beat his head in too
posted a womans address with comments akin to inciting violence
as a direct result some one smashed her window in with a brick
while her teen age daughter was home alone
keep in mind he thought this was atticus's address
so please dont take your facts from someone who targets women and children
and for the record id beat his head in too
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also..posting personal pictures of Stephen (without his consent_)also is a no no.... Not keeping the safety of one individual for the purpose of exposing identity is malicious. and just plain wrong.
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silentghost wrote:
and for the record id beat his head in too
Thats not very spiritual.
I was simply asking for another side to the story from an ex member and what he can tell us about the things that have been said about its founder.
Im not aware of his altercations and publishing addresses and what have you and for me that is unnecessary
What has gone outside of this forum does have to be replicated here.
No. posting pictures of Charlie doesnt really answer anything I have to say.
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Floyd wrote:silentghost wrote:
and for the record id beat his head in too
Thats not very spiritual.
I was simply asking for another side to the story from an ex member and what he can tell us about the things that have been said about its founder.
Im not aware of his altercations and publishing addresses and what have you and for me that is unnecessary
What has gone outside of this forum does have to be replicated here.
No. posting pictures of Charlie doesnt really answer anything I have to say.
See what propelling rumors can do? Because several people wanted to do the "unspiritual" after he caused such a ruckus. With malicious intent I might add.
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