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    Post  Carol Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:14 pm

    This is really very good.

    http://projectavalon.net

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10234-THE-RULERS-OF-THE-WORLD-A-new-Project-Avalon-video-interview

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    My (Kerry) response also posted on the forum/my blog and articles on my site:

    http://projectcamelotproductions.com/blog-hp.html

    January 2, 2011
    Notes on Rulers of the World interview
    FIGHTING THE GOOD FIGHT
    a review by Kerry Lynn Cassidy from Project Camelot of The Rulers of the World interview by Bill Ryan
    May the best 'man' win? Is that where this is at? With the recent interview released by Bill Ryan the questions that arise are many.

    According to a Source, 'Charles" is not telling the truth when he says the nuclear option is off the table. They substantiate this by referencing recent nuclear tests by France and clandestine nuclear tests that are likely going on underground in India and elsewhere. It is of course highly desirable that be the case. The shutdown of the minutemen missiles documented by Robert Salas and other recent disclosure witnesses at the National Press Club would seem to support this idea. The trouble is, the data is conflicting.

    So what else about what is talked about in the interview with Charles, is questionable, in either the lack of clear information or the obfuscation of the material? The clearest statement seems to be in relation to the threat from GMO foods. The garnering of control over the seeds. But this is old news and well known in the alternative community. Monsanto and other companies have been working hard to push that agenda. The names of these companies are out there. Why the huge resistance and warning against stating the obvious? Of course who controls the seeds and the lack of heritage seeds in circulation obviously narrows the controls over those who produce the crops... And the dumbing down and weakening of immune systems and possibly a multitude of other detrimental effects all point to a very damning conclusion so much so that various European countries have simply banned the use of GMO seeds. Again this is known.

    So what is going on here? This man appears to have had an interaction with some kind of AI or possibly mind control to where his original 'program' was modified so that he becomes more an agent provocateur than an outright assassin. Maybe this is just a natural trajectory. It stands to reason that bumping people off and making their lives miserable if they don't toe the line can be a very disheartening way to exist. It might even give one cancer or some incurable disease. Working for the dark side is not good for ones health it would appear.

    But from what I know, this person, though it is not revealed on the screen, has gone through a kind of Jason Bourne type of experience... Where his insubordination was punished...yet he survived. From the interview we know that somehow he has managed to convince his handlers that turning him--using him to start a dialog with the 'alternative community' as we are called, is apparently considered a worthwhile exercise or experiment.

    And so, he steps forward and does the interview with my partner in Camelot, Bill Ryan. To quote from my recent article called "Wikileaks: The Magus in Deep Black" ..."But those behind the scenes in this surveillance society, the ones who call themselves Magus, who manipulate the effects of the truly courageous actions of the bright stars, diamonds in the rough, under their Control, cannot be ignored. It is necessary that we go deeper into the black, what some would call, above black, to discover the real war being fought."

    Indeed this is the real question. Unfortunately this recent interview does little to reveal anything more about the Controllers. The info about UFO's being shot down is also old news. No one, at least no one I know, believed they crossed solar systems to crash from mechanical failures! We know they have been shot down. Particle beam weapons, scaler technology, some early radar based, laser technology from Wilhelm Reich... this is all out there. Indeed the truth is out there. Even this witness agrees.

    So what about the "laughter surrounding the 2012" issue? How can this remain a joke when in the next breath he talks about the uncontrollable Sun and the sensibleness of establishing an out of the way 'farm' to prepare for what the future may bring. Starvation is clearly part of the agenda... So storing food in underground bases, out of the way of the dreaded solar CMEs doesn't sound funny any longer. And of course this is what governments are also doing. Why is he contradicting himself one wonders. Unless of course one realizes that is the modus operandi for agents. There is obviously a recognition of the need to throw some truth into the mix, such as the binary system (yes we know this) and modular space craft (yes) in with misdirection and flattery.

    So what is the flattery involved and what does it mean? Unfortunately, like any good love affair the implication is that Bill 'turned his head' and made him rethink his priorities. Of course as charming as Bill is, this is still too much to believe. And this is one of the glaring problems within the body of the piece. Acknowledged that it is lonely at the top or close to it, especially when one is a lone gunman.. Finding a fine rapport with an individual of good intellect is albeit encouraging and even gratifying. But does it change the agenda?

    Bill states "'Charles has explained that the extraterrestrial race who initiated this project are letting everything unfold with a philosophy of non-interference." This is patently untrue. Evidence to the contrary is everywhere. It does not square with Bob Dean's assertion that the Anunnaki are walking the halls of the Pentagon. Presumably doing more than just 'strolling'. Or Wendell Stevens, the laudable researcher who recently passed on, and who, just before he died, said to his good friend, Bob Dean, that there is no doubt that the Anunnaki are ruling this Earth.

    And so, we have what Charles is calling the "Fair contest". Sorry there is no fairness involved here. On the contrary. This game is rigged. Very much so. Since the beginning. Rule by secrecy is what they call it.
    When Bill told me about his interaction with Charles I asked him to read a rather old and forgotten book but one that made a great impression on me when I was around 12. Yes, I was young and rather adventurous when it came to reading material. The book is called THE MAGUS by John Fowles. I encourage everyone who hasn't to read it before finding out what happens at the end. Because it is in the journey that one experiences the real effect. But suffice to say, that this mode of operation is how 'they' think. It may be found to be highly instructive when applied to the current drama between Bill and his friendly adversary turned protector.

    So what then is the game? And who again, are the Controllers. One source has told me that discussing who they are is off-limits... So are they 33? Are they, as they are reported to consider themselves "pure human"? Or, much more likely, are they really pure reptilian-human hybrids from one branch of the Anunnaki?

    Are they of angelic human lineage as described by Ashyana Deane? Unlikely, given they are the self-proclaimed rulers of this planet. Because what is clearer than most anything else is that angelic humans, those who came from off planet are certainly not the Controllers. The takeover by the present group happened back around the time of the altering of the DNA of humanity back in the 'deep abzu' according to the Sumerian tablets. The initial dumbing down. So this group of very wealthy rulers are not pure human at least in this sense, by any means. So that must be a 'cover'.

    And where do they operate from? Certainly the City of London is one of their bases of operations. Another, I am told is the state of Israel. Recently, I was told that a major alternative media personality is working as an agent to redirect attention away from the Mossad and the state of Israel because this is an Anunnaki base of operations within the Middle East. Makes sense if you think about it. If they started as Sitchin says they did in Babylon then they aren't far from 'home' at least as far as an earthly sense of that word.

    And, they said, this has nothing to do with the Jewish culture. The state of Israel was established as a place for the bankers to operate from, to launder money and one would extrapolate, to establish a stronghold in the Middle East in the center of the oil cartel... This is an interesting line of investigation. Of course, anyone who veers in this direction is instantly accused of being anti-semitic. What a great cover for a deep black operation. This, I am told has nothing to do with the Hasidic or traditional Jews.

    Although, it does have to do with the Rothschilds. And the bankers. And ultimately, it is about bloodlines.. what kind of superman inhabits this planet and then, goes out and terraforms others.

    If Bill has his wish and manages to get another interview with Charles, it is likely they will begin to sketch out the bloodline issue. But whether this explanation will bring us any closer to the truth is another matter.

    Of course Mars has to be one of the more likely real home bases in this solar system at present. All the indicators point to this. The recent information we received regarding the Venture Star and the routine flights off planet from the underground base in Utah, near Dugway.. as the JPL website states... "the Utah Test & Training Range provides the largest overland contiguous block of restricted airspace in the continental United States authorized for supersonic flight, available for aircrew training and weapons testing." That's pretty clear. Room for 35 scientists on each flight, we were told. Very well.

    It is a misdirection to say this group of 33 that Charles is referring to is not the "illuminati". The fact is, the philosophy of the illuminati, goes deeply into this group... It must. Because it's the occult philosophy that they clearly use to operate out of. For more on this, read the RA Material.

    So what is behind the visit from the lone assassin who has supposedly turned the tables on his handlers and in return found he has tops 4 years to live as a result? Isn't it much more likely that any change of heart on his part (and I wouldn't rule this out, after all, Camelot was established for just such people, defectors, I call them... whistleblowers from the matrix who are coming over to our side. To the light.) But in vetting such a one, we must be careful. Because, as is clear here, this person, not unlike several we have dealt with, is working, even openly as a double-agent. He is reporting back to the 'other' side, while stating that Bill is safe, (and I assume myself) as long as he is alive. Although from the sound of things that would mean our days are 'numbered' as they say if this is true. But, as he says, let the best 'man' win, survival of the fittest... and so on. Let the games begin in other words. On this new round. At the start of 2011.

    Note: none of the above is meant to detract from the strong interview conducted by Bill Ryan or the possibility that this man Charles is exactly who he claims to be. Although that is still an open question.

    To continue, when Bill uses the opportunity to interview Charles as a platform to make a plea to the so-called 33 for the viability of a different approach to solving the problems on the planet and against their favorite eugenics program.. this is laudable, however quaint in its approach. The trouble is, one must know that they are well familiar with the arguments against. And as Charles says have considered all the options. Sure it doesn't hurt to use this unique opportunity to state the case again... however, I have to say, this ignores the fact that you are talking to the tiger itself, about its own tools in the toolbox, such as free energy and space travel capability probably 1000 years in advance of anything we know of in the public sector and asking if they will consider playing fair. After 1000s of years of doing the opposite, playing on their advantage (off-world advantage) using power in service to self for aeons one rather doubts that another momentary plea will stop them in their tracks or even alter the playing field in any way.

    This is actually already an open dialog between the alternative community and 'this lot'. And the answer coming back has sadly been anything but inspiring. But, this does not detract from the fact that this interview, and this kind of dialog is a step in the right direction. One might as well have out with it. The trouble is, that the Controllers are still in hiding. And those who appear to be in charge are being managed. That much is certain. The evidence is everywhere.

    So where does this leave us? On the trail of the Anunnaki... for one. No doubt about it. The trouble is, that in this layered game, there are many off-planet races involved. And each group seems to think they are the ones in charge.

    Another interesting bit of information from another source tells me that the newest arrivals from 'outer space' are working with the Chinese. And that China is, as a result, building up their war machine at an unprecedented rate. The 'new guys' on the block are not friendly to the rest of us. And they are supplying China with the means to even the playing field. So much for the 'China is our savior' PR campaign that has had some success among the 'alternative community'.

    On another note, from what I understand from still another source, Julian Assange may indeed be working for a certain side. And the question still remains when considering who one works for in this game, that what the agenda of the given player is, must be taken into consideration along with that of the group they play for. Because if one finds oneself in sympathy with the agenda of one side, say over another, and, in furthering the agenda of the group one works for one furthers one's own equally important agenda then where's the harm? I imagine this is what we have to consider when looking at the case of Julian Assange or anyone who has behind the scenes elected to work for any group.

    What is troubling is when one considers that ones allegiances are often practical as well as limited by the amount of depth and understanding one brings to the big picture... ie. the playing field... in all its dimensions and aspects. This is unavoidable. Where are the blinders? What are the limits of knowledge or prejudice any one individual brings to the table when considering where to cast ones vote or take ones stand? And then, a certain degree of tolerance even kindness has to be brought to bear in understanding why one individual cast their lot in with one group vs. another. The path of light is often shrouded in illusion.

    Therefore, the issue with respect to Charles and even Julian has to be: which group and what agenda?? This is where the labyrinth becomes daunting and intimidating in every respect. Because again as perhaps too often quoted and yet too often found to be true, as Hoagland says 'the lie is different at every level.' And what level are we talking about at any given time has to be taken into consideration. Especially when asking or answering a question.
    It is instructive to know that information given to humans at this stage is done so with this in mind. And when considering the Galactic playing field the game changes at least from our perspective. This is where false flags such as Project Blue Beam a faked alien invasion aimed at uniting us as Reagan so wistfully put it 'against a common enemy' comes to the fore. And the trouble is, that while they spin this fake alien invasion scenario to certain ends, the real invasion, interference and yes, war, has been going on all along. It's just that many never take the time to look behind the curtain long enough to see it. Layers upon layers.

    We are at the brink of a Brave New World indeed. As Corso said 'if you can take it'... and I would add, whether you can take it or not. Moving into this New Year, it is useful to survey the playing field and see where we stand.

    Addendum

    Ultimately, the question on this planet comes down to sovereignty and then the inheritors. Because all the bloodline secrecy and genetic manipulation has to ultimately result in a race of humanity 2.0 .... possibly even more than one resulting race. Those in control who wish to maintain their control are doing so using money (as energy) but their desired objective is clearly superman or as I have stated, robotic superman because it appears highly likely given their established penchant for technology ... that they will go the way of AI/robotics/biological androids rather than to simply let the human evolve into the highest order of beingness they are capable of.

    The potential in our DNA indicates that we have built in capability to be so much more than what we are at present. But allowing that angelic human to manifest is slow in contrast to the manipulated hybrid option. Control of the line is unlikely to yield the best out of this mix... because in the end, it is not perfection we are after but impeccability. This is a profound distinction and one which seems to have been lost at least to those who wish to manipulate our genome.

    January 4, 2010
    Update on The Rulers of the World : their response to my response

    Although I have very little information to go on, I have been told via Bill, who was told via Charles that my long response entitled Fighting the Good Fight (see below) has upset some of the group that Charles represents. It should be noted that everything I said is already in the public domain (for the most part) and has been reported by me elsewhere in presentations and if not by me than by our Camelot witnesses and sources. It would appear that there is some value there.




    my previous post:


    January 1, 2011
    The Rulers of the World - Bill Ryan's interview with the man sent to "deal" with him and Project Camelot (because we have become a problem)

    Highly recommended.
    The information here is not new for Camelot supporters. But it does give a slightly different angle on the same material. A look at the way a group who consider themselves the Controllers think and plan for the future. A game of cat and mouse that eventually gets round to substantiating the active threat from the sun, GMO seeds, plans for population elimination and the importance of certain bloodlines to their plans. Interstellar craft, bases on Mars and the moon... the reality of ET, plans for Project Blue Beam and underground bases here on Earth..this is all in there and given passing reference.


    What is perhaps most interesting is what isn't said. Because of this individual's interaction with what appears to be AI ... the assassin decides not to take out his target... and instead engages in a dialog with him.
    Note: Of course we know they tried to take us down.. first by helping make the split happen -- this didn't work because what was one problem then became two problems and because the so-called split wasn't permanent :-) Note: a supposedly separate group was sent to deal with me. But I was told, that a certain person stepped in on my behalf to stop that action.

    One note: anyone who has paid attention knows that craft were shot down... and as a result crashed. There has been an ongoing war going on. The STS footage showing us shooting at one... is all over the net including here: (about 7 mins into my documentarty short entitled Have You Seen a UFO).




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    Post  orthodoxymoron Tue Jan 04, 2011 8:58 pm

    I liked the interview - but I also liked Kerry's response. What if all of the ET's, Hybrids, UFO's, Underground Bases, Nukes, Advanced Weaponry, Governments, Religions, Agencies, Mainstream Media, Major Financial Institutions, etc. (in this solar system) - are ALL controlled by ONE GROUP RULED BY ONE INDIVIDUAL? Consider Occam, Hegel, Machiavelli, and Lucifer. What if ALL of the damned elites are errand boys?
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    Post  Carol Tue Jan 04, 2011 10:26 pm

    Well OXY, what if they are? What if we are the fallen ones and were off-shoots of Lucifer with that Divine spark in us to help guide us out of 3D imprisionment and back home? What if we have a choice as to which path to walk? What if there is only one being in charge of the whole shabang? Called God?


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    Post  eMonkey Wed Jan 05, 2011 12:26 am

    That's a lot of "what if's". That is just way too much to contemplate for my simple monkey-mind. So here are my simple 2cents as perhaps 'over simplified' and 'stating the obvious' they may be. Yes - the very answers that are staring us in the face are often the ones overlooked.

    I instinctively know which of the good and evil paths I want to walk and I have made a choice to follow in the footsteps of all that is good in love and compassion. I think that if everyone that espoused peace stopped 'over analysing and thinking too much' but instead, starting 'doing' and practicing what they preach for good then perhaps humanity would not be facing the problems it finds itself in. By thinking & in-action, who are we really serving - ourselves or others?

    Of course the situation of intollerence of others to others may not dissapear overnight, but we all know that there are no quick and easy fixes however, we need to start somewhere. We are the saviours we have been waiting for, not ET, Corporations or Government. It really is a simple formular.

    Forgive me if I am off topic here as I have not heard any of these interviews nor have I read the lengthy replies. If it cannot be presented cogently, then I skip over.
    These interviews should simply become irrelevant and I for one no longer follow the distraction, competition, titfortat, back stabbing and the like. We should move on and leave this stuff behind and continue searching for answers within, not from without.

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    Post  orthodoxymoron Wed Jan 05, 2011 12:42 am

    Carol wrote:Well OXY, what if they are? What if we are the fallen ones and were off-shoots of Lucifer with that Divine spark in us to help guide us out of 3D imprisionment and back home? What if we have a choice as to which path to walk? What if there is only one being in charge of the whole shabang? Called God?

    Carol, if there is an Ancient and Ongoing Human vs Hybrid Civil War - perhaps everyone is wrong. What if all of us are fallen angels? What if all of us are a mixture of good and evil? I'm still seeing a Local God - as being separate and distinct from the Creator God of the Universe. There is a huge missing piece of the God Puzzle. I really do want answers, but I'm much more interested in Resolution, than I am in Crucifixion.

    eMonkey, your points are well taken. There is a time and a place for everyone and everything. Some of us probably need to do extensive research and speculation. Most of us probably just need to get on with living positive, responsible, and productive lives. It takes all kinds - but I sometimes wonder why...
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    Post  Mercuriel Wed Jan 05, 2011 2:31 am

    We are the Fallen...

    Fallen into Matter...

    The Bearers of the Light in Matter to varying degress of Vibration and Harmonic...

    6 Electrons...

    6 Protons...

    6 Neutrons...

    "Let They Who hath understanding reckon the Number of the Beast - For It is a Human Number - Six Hundred and Sixty Six..."

    Adam = 46 in Gematria...

    Man = 46 Chromosomes...

    Woman = 46 Chromosomes...

    33 Vertebrae in the Human Spine = 33 Degrees in the Scottish Rite...

    7 Chakras = 7 Degrees in the York Rite...

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    Raising the Kundalini - Raising the Snake as It were...

    The Choice is to either follow the Path of Descension = That of Lucifer or Fallen Man - Or to follow an Ascendant Path to Your Chist Consciousness and the Seat of the Lord - The Pineal Gland - The Third Eye...

    More to follow Oxy when I get some other Graphics finished...

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    Post  Anchor Wed Jan 05, 2011 3:48 am

    6 Electrons... 6 Protons... 6 Neutrons...

    The significance of this is that it is Carbon - as in carbon based life. (Well the C12 isotope anyway which is 98.9% of all naturally occurring Carbon)

    Interesting, I never saw 666 explained that way before.

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    Post  mudra Wed Jan 05, 2011 4:01 am

    Anchor wrote:
    6 Electrons... 6 Protons... 6 Neutrons...

    The significance of this is that it is Carbon - as in carbon based life. (Well the C12 isotope anyway which is 98.9% of all naturally occurring Carbon)

    Interesting, I never saw 666 explained that way before.

    John..

    Go and check the" Shaman Healers " thread John...
    http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t1582-shaman-healers-a-must-see

    It's covered in lengh there . Very interesting stuff Cheerful

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    Post  Mercuriel Wed Jan 05, 2011 4:27 am

    Indeed and honestly I must expand on the Gnosis this has produced in Me.

    All must be seen - Light must be shed in Dark places and so I will show You All the following...

    Many Years ago - While Sleeping/Dreaming and obviously as I understand It now - Travelling Astrally - I met others Who spoke to Me and told Me to Stand and be Vigilant - Verbatim...

    This was most of what I remembered but also one other thing. They called Me Mercuriel...

    This has become a Name that I have told Family and Friends I am also known as.

    Now let Us look closely at this shall We as We will be honest with this - Truly...

    The 4 ArchAngels (Arcangles) - Michael, Gabriel, Raphael and Uriel.

    Uriel = Lucifer before the Fall...

    MercUriel...

    Blink

    This has rocked Me by It's implications...

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    Post  Floyd Wed Jan 05, 2011 8:13 am

    I found this interview highly amusing.
    An ex football hooligan who knows a bit about non verbal communication (chelsea headhunter?)advising us on what is coming on behalf of a council of 33! Ive heard it all now. My own intuition is that this 'geezer' is a disinformant. I didnt really find anything interesting or new but It was a good laugh. They spend a large ammount of time talking about the subject of nonsense which I found somewhat appropriate.

    The best bit was when he was emphasising that nothing was going to happen in 2012 and that it was all rubbish before going on to say the pole shift was a problem that wasnt a problem but that they, them, whatever, were making preperations for it. Then he tells us to all go and live on Island. Then there was the top secret advice to protect our electric equiptment because of possoble solar flares around 2012 which has been in just about every newspaper you can think of. Complete and utter bollocks.

    Typical Avalonian material.
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    Post  enemyofNWO Wed Jan 05, 2011 8:53 am

    I watched the interview for a record 5 minutes and then I quit . In my view All BULLdust . Just at the very beginning Bill talks about the technology to clean the Earth : well why are they poisoning the planet every day then ? Birds and fishes dying by the thousands , the Gulf of Mexico disaster . " We could be the captains of the Earth ! " . Yes ! Yes! BS ! , I fairer fight ? Yes with everything rigged , every politician bought off , your constitutional rights in the garbage bin , war of conquest never ending , and attempt to reduce the population ......
    I haven't forgotten the Zurich conference that was full of secret services spies ...... including members of the " Ground crew " . Thanks Bill for nothing .
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    Post  burgundia Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:19 am

    The same opinion as the two above me...lol
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    Post  Carol Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:56 am

    Mercuriel wrote:Indeed and honestly I must expand on the Gnosis this has produced in Me.

    All must be seen - Light must be shed in Dark places and so I will show You All the following...

    Many Years ago - While Sleeping/Dreaming and obviously as I understand It now - Travelling Astrally - I met others Who spoke to Me and told Me to Stand and be Vigilant - Verbatim...

    This was most of what I remembered but also one other thing. They called Me Mercuriel...

    This has become a Name that I have told Family and Friends I am also known as.

    Now let Us look closely at this shall We as We will be honest with this - Truly...

    The 4 ArchAngels (Arcangles) - Michael, Gabriel, Raphael and Uriel.

    Uriel = Lucifer before the Fall...

    MercUriel...

    Blink

    This has rocked Me by It's implications...

    Harp

    Uriel, you little devil you. CAMELOT - Kerry's response to Bills interview 'Rulers of the World' with Charles  1/2/11 Little_Devil

    In all of this time - this very enlightening confession factoid was omitted from our many conversations. Now, much more makes sense as it is clear you've turned Lucifer onto the path back toward the Divine and singularity. It just took Hadriel to reflect back to you your own Divine essence.


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    Post  Mercuriel Wed Jan 05, 2011 11:59 am

    I must admit that Its a conclusion that I've also come to...

    Musical

    The Head of the Snake - That Old Serpent - The Adversary - Has been decapitated...

    The Overeaching Intelligence no longer remains and Their Plans now fall into Dust...

    Lesser Representations attempt to carry on the Charade but all that will come to naught - Very soon...

    Harp

    Simply put - One must bend the Knee in order to go Home...

    I have a Hunch that the Volume will now Increase Exponentially...

    cheers


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    Post  mudra Wed Jan 05, 2011 4:43 pm

    RULERS OF THE WORLD: project avalon comment pt 1/2

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hy0eBRldnQ&feature=related


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    Post  lawlessline Wed Jan 05, 2011 6:05 pm

    Ok I have listened to the video twice now. My thoughts are:

    Firstly I know this man, "Charles". Not in the litteral sense or physically. But I from the same area in London. I hear him speak and it takes me back through my childhood and early youth. It was great to hear someone who hasn't fallen prey to the cosmic energy plan. I am a Chelsea supporter, have been since 1976 when I started going with my old man. I know Charles in that respect.

    What anyone may term as BS coming from him is blinded by their own personal view of how they want the future to be. I understand the way he talks. I know when someone from his background is pulling my leg. I didn't hear the bells ringing. Now that is not to say he has the correct view of the situation. I think he has alot of things arse ended about. Maybe because the 33 or himself believe something that is wrong. But one thing is sure. He believes the majority of what he is saying to be true. And I am sure that the people he worked for or are working for believe this aswell. This I believe will be their down fall.

    One thing this interview has done is to produce a discussion about a world view point rather than the hard infomation that he shares. The info will always be second info. It means that the info that comes to the fore will always be yesterdays news. I like many if not all others are working to another plan, our individual plan within the structure of the planets situation.

    The biggest point that came across in this interview was that the human race is soo far from nature, that we are blinded by the idea that everyone should be sorted. Nature doesn't work this way and will never work this way. When it does will be the death of everything. And I mean everything here and the universe. We will all never agree. That is a good thing. This provides the room for progression and development in all areas. It is childish and very naïve to think that the throbbing masses will turn to a one love culture without going through the chaos before hand. You take a walk down Columbia Market in East London, or go down the Dove pub in Bethnal Green and you will understand totally what this man is talking about.

    He is not stupid, a BSter or even a Chelsea headhunter. But the throbbing mass he has pegged right. He also has the alternative media down to a T or a cup of tea more like. There are certain personalities that I gladly laugh at in the same way as he does. They have feathered their nests, made their markets and are now milking the BS machine for all their worth. You can find them at some weekend conferences around the world. I think when he spêaks about that aspect, he is speaking about alot of the early interviewees that PC had and are still connected with. I consider them to be as big a problem as the self ordaned PTB. Princess Lia had it right in Star wars when she said to DV." The tighter you squeeze the more star systems will slip through your fingers." This is why TPTB know this and apply a certain pressure, to sort the chaff from the wheat. They, like our mother nature does not what the Chaff and will only keep the wheat.

    The best thing I took from this interview was to confirm the view point I have of how this world works. Sure it doesn't work as we think, but to the same token it does. Having a foot in both worlds is the good advice. I think this is really what he was conveying.So for this I feel it was a great interview.

    Never will one person have the entire picture, have the correct info, I included. To take a photo of the world, you need at least 6 photos and even then it is a a very distant view and not very detailed. To have a detailed view you will need far more than we can imagine.

    For those who discard him because of his thug like aire has played straight up his street. Never under estimate anything.


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    Post  eleni Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:49 pm

    Not forming concrete opinions just yet, waiting until more background info is released. I have watched this twice already.
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    Post  Carol Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:55 pm

    I haven't watched this yet but did like Kerry's broad base overview review. I thought some of the points she raised intriguing and wondered who her data source was.


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    Post  orthodoxymoron Wed Jan 05, 2011 11:38 pm

    Once more - I just try to listen to everyone, with an open yet critical mind. Even if Charles is an insider - he would probably not tell us the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. This might simply be another installment in the controlled release of forbidden knowledge - which would probably be a mixture of old news, lies, and new truth. I tend not to crucify anyone. Even if someone is a complete fraud - they could stumble across something which might be of profound value. Just listen to as many sources as possible - without trusting anyone. I continue to treat all of this as an ongoing science fiction series - which might contain some truth. I keep speaking of Lucifer. If I ever met Lucifer, I would be respectful, aloof, detached, questioning, non-committal - and I would attempt to treat them as I would any other individual. I wouldn't start yelling Bible texts at them, in the name of Jesus. I'd really like to absorb the existing PTB into a new paradigm of governance. I wish to vastly reduce their power - but I don't wish to destroy them. I think this thing might be more delicate than brain surgery. Incidentally, there are two factions of Annunaki, in conflict with each other, right? They're probably arguing about what the heck to do with us. They might have a tiger by the tail. They might be afraid to let go - and risk yet another Star War. Just speculation.
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    Post  Mercuriel Thu Jan 06, 2011 2:35 am

    "There are more things in Heaven and Earth My Dear Horatio than are dreamt of in Your Philosophy..."

    Musical

    As Observer - Perspective - We are all Actors and Portrayers in Your Dream and vice versa ad infinitum. What We see Outside is but a reflection of what We see inside...

    The Fall was Us into Matter. Not in a Negative way but as Spirit Vibrating down into Matter in order to Experience Knowledge into Wisdom.

    That said somewhere along the way - Things moved into Error and thats where the Negativity began...

    We in Matter - Moved into Error - And Its the reclaiming of Our Fallen Nature as the Group Consciousness of Lucifer through raising the Snake / Kundalini to the Pineal in moving back to Christ Consciousness and Infinite Mind...

    Simply put - Its a Hologram - Programs abound - So become what You once were, again - The Prime Programmer...

    Uriel as Oversoul reclaims It's Fallen Avatar - Lucifer and therein - Lucifer moves back to the Even Pool - Having done It's Job as a Lower Co-ordinate Representative with no need of maintaining the Lower Avatar once remembrance of the Impetus behind It all - Is finally recalled...

    Oversoul Integrates Itself...

    Harp

    I will leave off with this - What does Light Itself - The Photon - Torque Itself against so to move @ 186 282 MPS ? Therein lays a great Truth...

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    Post  Floyd Thu Jan 06, 2011 3:27 am

    lawlessline wrote:Ok I have listened to the video twice now. My thoughts are:

    Firstly I know this man, "Charles". Not in the litteral sense or physically. But I from the same area in London. I hear him speak and it takes me back through my childhood and early youth. It was great to hear someone who hasn't fallen prey to the cosmic energy plan. I am a Chelsea supporter, have been since 1976 when I started going with my old man. I know Charles in that respect.

    What anyone may term as BS coming from him is blinded by their own personal view of how they want the future to be. I understand the way he talks. I know when someone from his background is pulling my leg. I didn't hear the bells ringing. Now that is not to say he has the correct view of the situation. I think he has alot of things arse ended about. Maybe because the 33 or himself believe something that is wrong. But one thing is sure. He believes the majority of what he is saying to be true. And I am sure that the people he worked for or are working for believe this aswell. This I believe will be their down fall.

    One thing this interview has done is to produce a discussion about a world view point rather than the hard infomation that he shares. The info will always be second info. It means that the info that comes to the fore will always be yesterdays news. I like many if not all others are working to another plan, our individual plan within the structure of the planets situation.

    The biggest point that came across in this interview was that the human race is soo far from nature, that we are blinded by the idea that everyone should be sorted. Nature doesn't work this way and will never work this way. When it does will be the death of everything. And I mean everything here and the universe. We will all never agree. That is a good thing. This provides the room for progression and development in all areas. It is childish and very naïve to think that the throbbing masses will turn to a one love culture without going through the chaos before hand. You take a walk down Columbia Market in East London, or go down the Dove pub in Bethnal Green and you will understand totally what this man is talking about.

    He is not stupid, a BSter or even a Chelsea headhunter. But the throbbing mass he has pegged right. He also has the alternative media down to a T or a cup of tea more like. There are certain personalities that I gladly laugh at in the same way as he does. They have feathered their nests, made their markets and are now milking the BS machine for all their worth. You can find them at some weekend conferences around the world. I think when he spêaks about that aspect, he is speaking about alot of the early interviewees that PC had and are still connected with. I consider them to be as big a problem as the self ordaned PTB. Princess Lia had it right in Star wars when she said to DV." The tighter you squeeze the more star systems will slip through your fingers." This is why TPTB know this and apply a certain pressure, to sort the chaff from the wheat. They, like our mother nature does not what the Chaff and will only keep the wheat.

    The best thing I took from this interview was to confirm the view point I have of how this world works. Sure it doesn't work as we think, but to the same token it does. Having a foot in both worlds is the good advice. I think this is really what he was conveying.So for this I feel it was a great interview.

    Never will one person have the entire picture, have the correct info, I included. To take a photo of the world, you need at least 6 photos and even then it is a a very distant view and not very detailed. To have a detailed view you will need far more than we can imagine.

    For those who discard him because of his thug like aire has played straight up his street. Never under estimate anything.




    I dont think he is stupid but he does come across as making himself appear more intelligent than he actually is which he didnt really have to do. I wouldn't disregard someone because of their upbringing or accent but I do think he is a bullshitter and I did find it amusing. I had lots of cockney friends during my time in London and im sure indeed that this fellow was a nasty piece of work when he was a fascist thug and a football hooligan. He is certainly riddled with fear. Watch the video again and see how many times he contradicts himself. The information he armed himself with is freely available by and large. Its of a similar quality to the Dr Pete Peterson (remember him)information. Pure bullshit and a complete distraction.
    With regard to the alternative media and conspiracy theories we have all known it was inundated with nonsense for some time. There is nothing new there. Not for me thanks but if you enjoyed it Tom thats fine by me. Maybe you are just missing your roots!
    I think you are correct about the disconnect from nature. That is humanities worst enemy rather than aliens or secret councils There is no 33 but there are 57 varieties of Heinz



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    Post  lawlessline Thu Jan 06, 2011 5:07 am

    Floyd wrote:


    I dont think he is stupid but he does come across as making himself appear more intelligent than he actually is which he didnt really have to do. ....

    He is certainly riddled with fear. Watch the video again and see how many times he contradicts himself. The information he armed himself with is freely available by and large. Its of a similar quality to the Dr Pete Peterson (remember him)information. Pure bullshit and a complete distraction.....


    With regard to the alternative media and conspiracy theories we have all known it was inundated with nonsense for some time. There is nothing new there. Not for me thanks but if you enjoyed it Tom thats fine by me. Maybe you are just missing your roots!.....


    I think you are correct about the disconnect from nature. That is humanities worst enemy rather than aliens or secret councils There is no 33 but there are 57 varieties of Heinz.....





    Firstly Floyd, roots yeah miss them from time to time. But when I talk about that aspect it is just to say I grew up with people like that and can tell straight up when they are pulling my leg. Sure he contradicts himself and sure he gives info that is out there already. He says that loads himself. This is why I didn't focus on the info he was putting out. If I did it was rather like a chat down the pub rather than a whistle blowers interview. He has his feet on the ground in that respect.

    I think he has moved into a world where people are far more awake. So in this respect, the language that he used was very flattering to us. He knew he couldn't talk his usual jib in order to get the view point across. Because I feel that is the only interesting thing in the interview.

    I am more sure that the 33 exist to the 57. Simply because the people that I think are running the alternative media in circles are the people who are talking about these things. Think about it. If these 57 or at least some are in contact with a select elite of this planet, I sure as HELL would not except them as a guide from outer space. I know they exist, sure but the whole them verses us out in space shows the only thing that they have over us is technology. They are not more inteliigent to Charles or as he pretends to be.

    Sorry just realised you were joking on that count FLoyd. Been working too hard and not playing here enough maybe. But just to wrap it up, I take info with a sea of salt, who ever is telling it. I just thought the way in which the game is set up he has right. But for him to be on the interview I think he knows aswell as tptb know that they only have the cards they have and not the whole pact.

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    Maybe it "is there place for the hopeless sinner, that has hurt all man kind."

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    Post  lawlessline Thu Jan 06, 2011 6:17 am

    Floyd,

    As you do not recieve messages I will post it here.

    I have been so engroosed in my work at the moment that I lost myself in my writings. I just wanted to thank you for helping me get back to earth today. Your humour is just the best.

    I guess you know already, but my doors are always open for you and if you find yourself in my area, you have a place at my table.

    I truely thank you my friend.

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    Post  enemyofNWO Thu Jan 06, 2011 6:39 am

    I eventually viewed the whole interview .
    It seems to me that "Charles " has been sent to sell the idea of " Culling " the population to the public . There will be some gullible people that will swallow this line of thought completely . The reality is that the 33 idiots want to retain control of the world with a smaller population so their control could be more effective , but the 33 idiots don't want to change the economic system which really doesn't work and is the cause of the Earth pollution . If the "culling " succeed a Modern feudal society will be implemented .
    The problem is that the Earth is in trouble because of those 33 jokers that push this broken economic system on the population for a long time.
    It is an impossible and unsustainable situation to have a dogma like " growth " taught in Universities as gospel . How is it possible to have infinite growth in a finite Planet ? So now that planet is stressed as a consequence of the 33 idiots control , they propose as a solution the "Culling " of the population . Problem ,reaction ,solution . So the consumer society , that the 33 idiots love , and their globalization have given to the world large areas of the Pacific Ocean that are filled with floating garbage . We have enormous ecologic disasters like the Gulf of Mexico and the destruction of the Amazon forest all brought to us by greed and corruption under the leadership of the 33 morons from psychopathic lineage .
    People must remember the uprooting of orange orchards in Italy , Australia and other places because importing orange juice from Brazil is cheaper . The setting of production quotas on milk and other products in the EU and other parts of the world . If there is going to be famine it won't be because the Earth cannot support the population but because the economic system with it's distortions cannot cope and cannot be trusted to feed the poor people living with less than 2 dollars a day . Have a look at what happened to the precious metals . Their price has been manipulated for decades and so the prices of other metals , oil , commodities such as grain , coffee, cocoa, sugar etc. Ask yourself who benefits from the wholesale manipulation of food prices ? Certainly not the poor people of the world !
    The 33 idiots are the one that don't care about the starving population in the world , and they view the poor nations as a tool to be exploited , robbed of their natural resources and controlled totally .
    Charles said that 2012 is BS . Fine . Later on he talked about the underground bases , the Sun being unpredictable and other things , Isn't this a form of contradiction ?
    Why are the underground bases necessary then ? My attitude tho the underground bases is simple " Block the entrance and exit " after the "chosen one " are inside .
    During the French revolution , the governor of the Bastille was killed and his head was paraded around on a pike . History has a habit of repeating itself .

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    Post  eMonkey Thu Jan 06, 2011 6:45 am

    enemyofNWO wrote:My attitude tho the underground bases is simple " Block the entrance and exit " after the "chosen one " are inside .
    During the French revolution , the governor of the Bastille was killed and his head was paraded around on a pike . History has a habit of repeating itself .

    You have to first catch them to chop off their noggins. Their bases are rabbit warrens with multiple exits. Also many are interconnected, so you will have to find and plug all of the holes. A nice thought but if a snake goes down one hole in the US and then ends up in Australia, you may have a long long wait for them to show.


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