THE BRIDGE-WAY

Lionhawk wrote:P.S. Mr. V. ? Is it a possibility that you can take two decks and shuffle them together and then do a reading? Is this a stupid question?

The tarot is a tool on the mystical path. It can be used to great effect and great power. Bit scary actually. In which case, you need to ditch Waite and learn what it is really about. That's what I did, and am sharing in here.

For divination : Q: Do you believe there is something outside of you that would communicate through a deck of cards?  If yes, as long as you are absolutely consistent in your interpretation of the cards (or whatever) then yes, it will work, if this other-dimensional contact is for real.
If no, you dont believe the universe wants to talk to you, then can the tarot be used for reliable self psycho-analysis? absolutely yes, same rules apply, you need to be consistent in your interpretation.

There are 2 things I need to explain in the tarot. And both came up in Clearwater's birth card. Saves me a job explaining twice would that be a synchronicity?

Or are we all just delusional drooling incoherents at this stage?

Vidya Moksha wrote:

Lionhawk wrote:P.S. Mr. V. ? Is it a possibility that you can take two decks and shuffle them together and then do a reading? Is this a stupid question?

The tarot is a tool on the mystical path. It can be used to great effect and great power. Bit scary actually. In which case, you need to ditch Waite and learn what it is really about. That's what I did, and am sharing in here.

For divination : Q: Do you believe there is something outside of you that would communicate through a deck of cards?  If yes, as long as you are absolutely consistent in your interpretation of the cards (or whatever) then yes, it will work, if this other-dimensional contact is for real.
If no, you dont believe the universe wants to talk to you, then can the tarot be used for reliable self psycho-analysis? absolutely yes, same rules apply, you need to be consistent in your interpretation.

There are 2 things I need to explain in the tarot. And both came up in Clearwater's birth card. Saves me a job explaining twice would that be a synchronicity?

Or are we all just delusional drooling incoherents at this stage?

I get it and I'm in total agreement with you on the Waite deck. Just understand, I have no reference point here at the house. No books on Crowly, although I am familiar with who he was but only scratched the surface. I dug up my old art supplies, put a sketch pad in front of me and I don't know where to start. So maybe I should put that to the side. I'm a fish out of the water here. And that's okay. Just trying to find ways to help out. I'm even thinking of trying something on a cpu program. Maybe I can work on the cover of your book or do you have that already? Shaking my head...wondering? Let me know how I can help out.

Fish out of the water,

ClearWater wrote:That is a generous offer! Would love to have you calculate cards for me, if they are different than what the calculator outputted above. My birth date is November 12, 1974.

Be careful you dont get what you wished for !..

12/11/1974

1974 + 11 + 12 =1997  1+9+9+7= 26 only 22 Major cards so keep reducing 2+6=8

1+9+7+4+1+1+1+2 = 26,  2+6 = 8

So, the numbers will generate 1 to 3 major cards, in this case 1, number 8.

Only one card, so 17 is implied as 1+7=8

Outer card=star, inner card=adjustment. Minor card (wheel) is 7 Cups.

The 8th Major Arcana is Adjustment. Or waite's 'Justice'

Hand up all those who thought 8 was the strength card? This was one of Waite’s deliberate blinds. Can you see now why that card calculator is wrong..
The Strength Card you know is number eleven.

Waite called Adjustment ‘Justice’.  and attributed it to the 11th major arcana.  Adjustment = Justice.

The other point is that Crowley switched the star and the emperor paths on the tree of life.. he had a vision which told him to do it.  I don’t understand it. Doesn’t make sense. So on the tree of life I posted earlier, switch the emperor and star paths. I need to make a corrected version, somewhen.

Hopefully this will be clearer over time.

Ready?   I promised a cut and paste job, and I don’t have time to edit now, so here is some information overload for you.  And you can see why I have some work to edit the major arcana.


8. JusticeWaite: This is Karma, Eternal Justice and Balance. Strength and Force, but arrested as in the act of judgement.  legal proceedings, a court of law, a trial at law, seeing harmony,  Justice, decision, getting what you deserve, a lesson learnt, absolute honesty, balance, an indication that nothing can save you except yourself.



The feminine complement of the Fool, justice, the act of adjustment, suspending action pending the outcome of a, lawsuits, marriage, engagement and political treaties.
Tarot Justice is not blind, its vision is presumed to be perfect, seeing inner realities revealed by the light of Truth.
True Justice does not punish or reward, it simply compensates conditions of unbalance
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Colours in this Path: Emerald Green
The white (which actually represents pure brilliance) is Kether, while purple is the colour of Chesed in Atziluth.  
yellow, meaning Tiphareth.
blues refer to Jupiter on this path.

Alchemical Correspondences
Prophetically, the first of 3 feminine powers encountered by the Charioteer is Justice – the death aspect of the triple goddess. Alchemically she weighs fire and water, she balances the male and female aspects.

Astrological Correspondences
Libra (Cardinal Air)
Several planets have influence on this path.  Venus rules Libra, to which this Path is directly attributed. Mars is related because this is an exercise of the purging energies of Geburah. The Sun is involved not only because the Path runs from the Sun to Mars, but because Justice must take place in the clear bright sunlight of Truth. Saturn is exalted in Libra. Finally there is Jupiter, Planet of Chesed, and that Libra is ruled by Venus is to state that behind Justice stands the Empress, the primary Path of Venus which is the perfect balance between the energies of Chokmah and Binah. The reference is also to the nature forces of Netzach.

Hebrew Characters
Lamed MEANING: Ox Goad
SIMPLE LETTER: Work

Qabalah/Golden Dawn
the 22nd Path The PATH OF LAMED
Esoteric Titles~ The Daughter of the Lord of Truth; the Ruler of the Balance. the Holder of the Balances The Twenty-second Path is the Faithful Intelligence
The path of Justice runs between Tiphareth and Geburah. It is "The Severity of Beauty and Sovereignty, Mars acting through Libra upon Sol." This path assures the balance of the whole Tree by equilibrating between the pivotal core of the Tree and the sphere of its harshest action. The function of this path is to constantly compensate for imbalance. Justice acts like a carpenter's level, showing which side of the project needs adjustment. If a person is imbalanced on the side of Mercy, the Sword of Justice swings to the side of Severity, and vice versa. The unbalanced aspects are severed by the Sword of Geburah in a necessary, martial fashion. This is a double edged sword that can swing both ways, either in the act of destroying or consecrating. Its action is like that of a pendulum, which only comes to rest in the centre, after the gravitational pull of both polarities has quieted.

This attribution points to the letter's special relationship with Aleph (ox) on the Path of the Fool. Their interaction is exceptionally complex, although the essential principles can be simply stated: Justice maintains the balance of the Tree, so that the outpouring energy of the Fool (this has sometimes been called the "Holy Ghost") will operate within the confines of a natural pattern. Justice is the administrator of the laws of Binah, written by The Hierophant. It is the "Ruler of the Balance."
The entire Tree of Life is related to the Twenty-Second Path, the number of which is the totality of all the Paths. Justice is not one solitary figure or force, it is an amalgam of all the Paths which are self-focused. The alignment of forces has been described as being within .the essential life force symbolized by the Fool.

The sword of Justice, the weapon of Elohim Gibor (God of Geburah) is fearful. It can be swift and devastating in its cutting away of what is no longer needed. It can make war; it can enforce peace. But the sword has two edges, one of which destroys and the other of which consecrates as in the conferring of knighthood. The cutting away of the negative aspects of body and soul is a return to purity, a consecration. This idea of renewed purity is reinforced by the attribution of Libra and the kidneys, which cleanse waste from the body system.  

some writers suggest  this Path relates to Purgatory, a condition of consciousness after death where the soul is cleansed of the dross of its earthly incarnation

These ancients had a concept of "right, truth, law and rectitude" expressed by the single word maat. This originally meant "that which is straight," but came to mean also a rule, a measure of some kind, or a law. Maat was symbolized by the feather, against which either the heart of the deceased or his whole body was weighed. In illustrations, we find this weighing administered by Anubis, and the results recorded by Thoth.


Crowley relates both of these Gods to the Nineteenth Path which is the balance between Geburah and Chesed..
As a Goddess, Maat represented moral law and truth. She was, in essence, the personification of the concept of maat. It is this Goddess who is shown on the Crowley card, crowned with her attribute, the ostrich feather. The weighing of souls is, implied in the Waite version

in the Crowley card the scales are black as a reference both to Binah and to Saturn. This means not only assessment, but restriction, which is also time, an important aspect of the administration of the law. By contrast, the Waite version shows golden scales, meaning that the individual soul is measured as it stands within the pure golden Light of Tiphareth. It is only under this Light that the sword of Geburah does its work, as is suggested by the Maat legend. Maat relates to the Sun God, Ra. She is, in fact known as the "Daughter of Ra," as she is Qabalistically named the "Daughter of the Lords of Truth." The Egyptians also called her "Queen of Heaven."
Most important is that Maat is the regulator of the Path of the Sun. The Egyptian texts suggest that it is through Maat that the Sun subsists, for Ra is said to "rest upon Maat," and to "live by Maat."In our terms this means that the principles of The Path of Justice maintain Tiphareth. But insofar as Ra is the source of all Light, he is also the Fool. Thus one can paraphrase, and say that Aleph rests upon Lamed and that Lamed is the regulator of the Path of the Divine Life Force.
The relationship between Aleph and Lamed conceals the greatest secret of the Tarot, one which is, as Crowley said "beyond all planetary and zodiacal considerations," meaning Kether!
Waite emphasizes the Mars aspect of Justice over its Venus aspect by having the figure clothed primarily in red. And if his card is considered on the pattern of the Tree of Life (when the card is placed on the Path of Lamed) it will be seen that the raised sword points to Geburah while the scales are lowered in the direction of Tiphareth.  

Crowley calls the figure not only the Goddess Maat, but also Harlequin, "the partner and fulfillment of the Fool." The figure stands within a diamond-shape which is the Vesica Piscis. Behind her is a throne of spheres and pyramids, in groups of four, meaning "Law and limitation." This is another reference to Chesed. As Maat she wears ostrich feathers, with the Uraeus serpent, Lord of Life and Death, on her forehead. She holds the Sword (a male symbol in this context) in such a way as to suggest sexual union, and the "completion" of the female. This is what Crowley described as  "The Woman justified. By equilibrium and Self sacrifice is the Gate." A scale, springing from a point above her head, weighs all that is in creation, the Alpha and the Omega. She is total equilibrium, yet in constant motion: "She is the ultimate illusion which is manifestation; she is the dance, many-coloured, many-wiled, of Life itself. Constantly whirling, all possibilities are enjoyed, under the phantom show of Space and Time; all things are real, the soul is the surface, precisely because they are instantly compensated by this Adjustment. All things are harmony and beauty; all things are truth: because they cancel out."
This card in the old pack was called Justice. This word has none but a purely human and therefore relative sense; so it is not to be considered as one of the facts of Nature. Nature is not just, according to any theological or ethical idea; but Nature is exact.

This card represents the sign of Libra, ruled by Venus; in it Saturn is exalted. The equilibrium of all things is hereby symbolized
This card is the feminine complement of the Fool,.

The figure is that of a young and slender woman poised exactly upon toetip. She is crowned with the ostrich plumes of Maat, the Egyptian goddess of Justice, and on her forehead is the Uraeus serpent, Lord of Life and Death. She is masked, and her expression shows her secret intimate satisfaction in her domination of every element of dis-equilibrium in the Universe. This condition is symbolized by the Magic Sword which she holds in both hands, and the balances or spheres in which she weighs the Universe, Alpha the First balanced exactly against Omega the Last. This all takes place within the diamond formed by the figure which is the concealed Vesica Piscis through which this sublimated and adjusted experience passes to its next manifestation. She poises herself before a throne composed of spheres and pyramids (four in number, signifying Law and Limitation) which themselves maintain the same equity that she herself manifests, though on a completely impersonal plane, in the framework within which all operations take place. Outside this again, at the corner of the card, are indicated balanced spheres of light and darkness, and constantly equilibrated rays from these spheres form a curtain, the interplay of all those forces which she sums up and adjudicates.
This woman-goddess is Harlequin; she is the partner and fulfilment of The Fool. She is the ultimate illusion which is manifestation; she is the dance, many-coloured, many-wiled, of Life itself. Constantly whirling, all possibilities are enjoyed, under the phantom show of Space and Time: all things are real, the soul is the surface, precisely because they are instantly compensated by this Adjustment. All things are harmony and beauty; all things are Truth: because they cancel out.
She is the goddess Maat; she bears upon her nemyss the ostrich feathers of the Twofold Truth.

She represents Manifestation, which may always be cancelled out by equilibration of opposites.
She is wrapped in a cloak of mystery, the more mysterious because diaphanous; she is the sphinx without a secret, because she is purely a matter of calculation. In Eastern philosophy she is Karma. Her attributions develop this thesis. Venus rules the sign of the Balance; and that is to show the formula: "Love is the law, love under will". But Saturn represents above all the element of Time, without which adjustment cannot take place, for all action and re action take place in time, and therefore, time being itself merely a condition of phenomena, all phenomena are invalid because uncompensated.
The Woman Satisfied. From the cloak of the vivid wantonness of her dancing wings issue her hands; they hold the hilt of the Phallic sword of the magician. She holds the blade between her thighs.
This is again a hieroglyph of "Love is the law, love under will. Every form of energy must be directed, must be applied with integrity, to the full satisfaction of its destiny.

The Star
General Divinatory Meanings
Hope, faith, unexpected help. But sometimes also dreaminess, deceived hope, etc. Unexpected help, clearness of vision, realization of possibilities, spiritual insight, can be error of judgement, dreaminess, disappointment.
Peace after the storm, hope, healing, wholeness, optimism, bright prospects, a calm and confident future, the unconscious activated in a very benign way.

Lionhawk wrote:Oxy, did you have a bad couple of days or what? I mean slapping people in the face and saying things that are not true as to those who care about you, to me, raises alarms. What is bothering you to such a degree that you would say that you don't like the direction this website is going? Where is it going? Just for you...

"I Love BWV 565!!"

Vidya Moksha wrote:I will say clearwater, those are remarkably balanced cards. Very level. With an even better impression given to those around you.

Look on the tarot wheel. 7 cups... (mudra is 6 cups) .. Now ruled by the knight of wands. We are going to call him the king of wands. But kings are powerful male energy and wands are powerful male energy. He is fire of fire...

i reckon he can even pull venus out of that mess she got herself into in scorpio..

nice cards !

mudra wrote:
LionHawk wrote on Sat 18 2021

I learned a major lesson on that front. If you have something to say to me, you can say it in Public. If you can't do that, then it isn't worth saying. Don't bother sending me a P.M. because I won't open it. And if you send me something to my home email, I'll just delete it. I'm not in high school anymore. Also for the record, despite what lies may be out there, I do not object to being challenged. In fact, I invite that. As long as you keep your emotional body in check and you are respectful. I don't mind mixing it up because it makes it for an interesting exchange. You respect my path and I will most certainly respect yours. If you need assistance, I will give you the shirt off my back. I have also never charged for any services rendered. I see spirituality as priceless. Meaning in the context of no price. And if I do something for you, please have some dignity and be a little bit grateful, instead of stabbing me in the back. If you can't do that, then take a hike and do it yourself. Some folks really know how to show their arrogant butts. Life is too short to be playing these kinds of games. If I'm not mistaken, we are all volunteers and on that note alone, if you have any expectations of having others do it for you, best get a life and do it yourself. As they say, put your money where your mouth is. I'm just being forthright. Again, I'm not the enemy here. Grow up! And that's that! IMHO. Does anyone here have a problem with that? Here's your chance to get it off your chest. Enough said.

When I read the above I thought " If I was still having issues with you LionHawk I would consider the above an honorable proposal and I would take the offer to come forward to settle things and restore understanding "  This would take courage on both sides but it would a noble deed that served a noble cause, peace.  

ClearWater wrote:
Sound like I'm a hot mess enclosed in a tidy wrapper, lmao!

Thank you again sir!  This is going well beyond what I had expected, and I'm very grateful for the time you're investing into it.  

I have always been very fascinated and largely ignorant when it comes to Tarot, Astrology, and things of that ilk, so the information your'e sharing is definitely appreciated.  Looking forward to learning a lot!

Far from it. The major cards are the important ones. The scorpio reference is not 'tarot' but astrology.. just a muse..

but venus in scorpio.. well, she should know better at her age

but the major arcana are solid, well balanced.. i need to look more on the tree of life, I am not familiar with these cards in the personal sense.. I meet a lot of fools and chariots..

it is also going way beyond what I expected (not your cards -the manuscript dump).. i think eye strain is the biggest hurdle. It takes a long time to post in here using the editor. I am trying to compose the forum syntax in my document so i can post directly in here.

But hey, I am happy to share, it will just take me a while.