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    Post  mudra Thu Jan 06, 2011 7:00 am

    My own thoughts about the interview is that I found Bill treading on eggs .
    For Charles I feel compassion knowing that he is terminally ill .
    I would have loved to tell him that there is another world that reaches beyond
    and overlaps the world he has known so far , that it is my hope he comes into
    contact with it , that the journey really is within and that as many of us he is
    only that many inches away from coming to realize his true self and that by
    reconnecting to Nature's pattern and flow he has all he needs to
    expand his Consciousness to a place where he can heal himself.
    And that by doing so he will give himself a chance to have a completely new and
    refreshing understanding of things.
    To both I would say that the Mind rules in a finite binary world while Spirit sees no bounderies
    and knows that simply by Being , from one's eternal presence and awareness thereof miracles emerge.
    If language and thoughts were dropped ...what would remain ?

    Love from me
    mudra
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    Post  lawlessline Thu Jan 06, 2011 7:15 am

    This is where I think he has the view that is given to him regarding to the info that he has been given. If I was to tell him that Black was white and visa versa from the begining he would believe that.

    I think he has a view of a future world of his own. So this brings in the idea that the future could be split into many realities and we are choosing the future that we want? splitting the world and all that.

    Frustration does get to me aswell regarding their control programme. I believe total uncontrol is possible, hence my name, Lawless. This doesn't mean violence. But I am a kind of person that doesn't believe in hunting people down regardless of the trajic past. That is something that they will have to confront at somepoint. Standing infront of the mirror will be much worse than giving them the easy way out as beheading. For this I agree with emonkey. It would be a pointless exercise and a major energy loss.

    Our success is their failure. That would be the result that would be much better than beheading. But I understand the frustration that their control madness produces.

    t
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    Post  enemyofNWO Thu Jan 06, 2011 7:39 am

    lawlessline wrote:This is where I think he has the view that is given to him regarding to the info that he has been given. If I was to tell him that Black was white and visa versa from the begining he would believe that.

    I think he has a view of a future world of his own. So this brings in the idea that the future could be split into many realities and we are choosing the future that we want? splitting the world and all that.

    Frustration does get to me aswell regarding their control programme. I believe total uncontrol is possible, hence my name, Lawless. This doesn't mean violence. But I am a kind of person that doesn't believe in hunting people down regardless of the trajic past. That is something that they will have to confront at somepoint. Standing infront of the mirror will be much worse than giving them the easy way out as beheading. For this I agree with emonkey. It would be a pointless exercise and a major energy loss.

    Our success is their failure. That would be the result that would be much better than beheading. But I understand the frustration that their control madness produces.

    t

    Lawlessline you are entitled to your opinion . However , all humanity is in trouble , and superman or a deus Ex Machina , will not come to the rescue . We ( humanity ) will have to resolve the situation by ourselves . Barring miracles like reprogram of the whole humanity or other remotely possible interventions I don't see any other solution . When living in a state of anarchy and oppression it is justifiable for the individual to take the law into his hands .
    There no forgiveness from my part for those 33 criminal families , I think the appropriate solution is extermination . After all those crims are behind the " Culling " .
    I would use the nails myself to crucify a couple of creeps 12,000 miles away . But I will not go there .....


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    Post  lawlessline Thu Jan 06, 2011 7:58 am

    enwo,

    I tend to agree with you. The only thing is that may cause as much damage as their culling idea??????? And the other thing is the the average Joe blogs in the street will not be able to wake in time and that is not yours or my responsability.

    The video respose that Mudra put up earlier on this thread was a good response. I prefer to keep to the path I am on. I think it will help ease the situation in the future???? But to get there I am affraid that what ever the future brings there will be some form of suffering. I am not the judge and maybe the superman is in each of us????

    Just Ideas cos you and I and everyone has their own descisions to make. I have let go of the hate I had for any of those control freaks. let love rule.

    t
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    Post  Floyd Thu Jan 06, 2011 8:07 am

    lawlessline wrote:Floyd,

    As you do not recieve messages I will post it here.

    I have been so engroosed in my work at the moment that I lost myself in my writings. I just wanted to thank you for helping me get back to earth today. Your humour is just the best.

    I guess you know already, but my doors are always open for you and if you find yourself in my area, you have a place at my table.

    I truely thank you my friend.

    t


    Hey up geezer
    Nothing wrong with being engrossed on your work. Laughter is always the best the medicine..thanks for the table thing..I hope you have some cheese and onion sandwhiches!! Ill bring the vino!

    I dont worry about controllers aliens or 33's or whatever..Its a bit like the Wizard of Oz..when you peer behind the curtain you see no great Wizard but only your fear staring right back at you..They can all kiss my arse. Even the secret coalitions and the etheric aliens must one day bend(over?) to the fantastic beings that are really pulling the strings in our solar system. The best thing to do is to enjoy your life and keep yourselves and others informed and be ready..and have a laugh on the way. They have no control. Let them run to their shelters. Arseholes always get found out in the end
    Cheers...Hmm Ifell like a glass of vino righ now as it happens!
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    Post  Guest Thu Jan 06, 2011 12:30 pm

    I think there are many players with many scripts and only humanity will decide which way the balance tilts. Interesting how Kerry and Bill are divided again Rolling Eyes
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    Post  eleni Thu Jan 06, 2011 1:13 pm

    mudra wrote:My own thoughts about the interview is that I found Bill treading on eggs .
    For Charles I feel compassion knowing that he is terminally ill .
    I would have loved to tell him that there is another world that reaches beyond
    and overlaps the world he has known so far , that it is my hope he comes into
    contact with it , that the journey really is within and that as many of us he is
    only that many inches away from coming to realize his true self and that by
    reconnecting to Nature's pattern and flow he has all he needs to
    expand his Consciousness to a place where he can heal himself.
    And that by doing so he will give himself a chance to have a completely new and
    refreshing understanding of things.
    To both I would say that the Mind rules in a finite binary world while Spirit sees no bounderies
    and knows that simply by Being , from one's eternal presence and awareness thereof miracles emerge.
    If language and thoughts were dropped ...what would remain ?

    Love from me
    mudra


    Hmm.......I'm not so sure he is terminally ill. Just like I'm not so sure about more than half of what was said. Anyone else catch the part where he said it's all part of the disinfo then quickly corrected himself and said education? Anyhow- I remain skeptical until more info is released. And I agree with NWO- we are being sold an idea (LOL, got to give them credit for attempting to sell us) problem, reaction, solution. Those 33 will learn money isn't everything nor is power. They won't be escaping their own karma (if karma even exists). They will reap what they sow sooner or later even if they have managed to escape that the last 2 million or so years.
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    Post  Marie Thu Jan 06, 2011 1:25 pm

    Here is a discussion about that interview of Charles, It is from the Universal Truth Evolution blog talk radio show.
    Was interesting to listen to, I think good points are made there and worth listening.

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/universaltruthevolution/2011/01/04/modus-operandi-of-the-controllers-important-discus

    From what i read, in my opinion we won't really know what is really behing this. But i think the Avalon forum is crazy right now about this. lots of judging, critics etc. I honestly don't know where this is all going!
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    Post  eleni Thu Jan 06, 2011 1:27 pm

    The latest from Charles:


    Dear All:

    'Charles' has asked me to post this on his behalf. It's been very slightly edited for ease of presentation (which he asked me to do).

    The meaning, content and style are unaltered.

    As is often the case with Charles, the information he presents is designed to make the recipient think for themselves just a little.

    ------
    If you are a type of animal that's genetically passive, you have no aggressive tendencies.

    Let's say as result of not eating the small creatures, because you're not equipped mentally for callous self-preservation, you ignore part of your diet that is in turn needed to give you a genetic boost of those very abilities.

    This renders you even less able to gather that nutritional violent 'Viagra'.

    Then let's say that the other properties of that area of available diet - or in this animal's case, the lack of it - are that you tend to be deficient in some mental ability.

    Now let's put this imaginary animal in a fairly hostile environment.

    Hard life... and no real genetic potential.

    Now let's add some other genetic material to the mix.

    The same animal now does have genetic callous ability, and takes advantage of every opportunity, food, control of environment, to excel at being there, staying... not dying off to be consigned to the genetic memory of mistakes and dead ends.

    Let's say this diet enables this version to think in a less cluttered manner, to clearly understand this must be done to dominate and survive.

    Let's say this animal has a different thought process.

    In being able to achieve this thought process, can you now imagine that this animal, if it's unchecked, will successfully be the result of its own demise by stripping its environment.

    Let's introduce yet more DNA.

    Now we have a hybrid that can understand all aspects due to a combination of both DNA strings and diets.

    It's able to see its brothers' and sisters' weaknesses: true weaknesses, as callous behaviour in the second strain's nature is also a weakness.

    Let's say this hybrid's diet and thinking is a mix of the two.

    A Gemini in one.

    Let's say this animal understands that all strains are needed to survive the habitat.

    Having this understanding of what should it do:

    MANAGE.
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    Post  enemyofNWO Thu Jan 06, 2011 1:35 pm

    " Let's say this animal understands that all strains are needed to survive the habitat.

    Having this understanding of what should it do:

    MANAGE."

    Yes we can manage without the moronic 33 mentally retarded families javascript:emoticonp('Argh')
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    Post  orthodoxymoron Thu Jan 06, 2011 1:49 pm

    Shouldn't we really attempt to understand the true nature of Humanity - the true nature of the Annunaki - and the true nature of the relationship between Humanity and the Annunaki - which might include a very ugly history? Eleni, can you tell us anything about the Annunaki? I remember you telling us some things on Avalon 1. I tend to think that everyone is screwed-up - and that if most of us were placed in the positions which the elite occupy - we might be just as bad, or worse, than they are.
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    Post  Floyd Thu Jan 06, 2011 1:50 pm

    He has certainly opened a can of worms.



    Bollocks
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    Post  Marie Thu Jan 06, 2011 1:58 pm

    orthodoxymoron wrote:Shouldn't we really attempt to understand the true nature of Humanity - the true nature of the Annunaki - and the true nature of the relationship between Humanity and the Annunaki - which might include a very ugly history? Eleni, can you tell us anything about the Annunaki? I remember you telling us some things on Avalon 1. I tend to think that everyone is screwed-up - and that if most of us were placed in the positions which the elite occupy - we might be just as bad, or worse, than they are.

    I think you are right, Maybe we should try to understand all those points. If we want to understand what is happening now, i guess we need to understand the past? But is that really necessary? I am not sure. But i do not think that everyone that would be in positions of the elites would be as bad or worse. But i think it is important to understand their point of view if we want to understand more. They are looking from their perception. They think they are doing the right thing. Now where do we go from there? No idea!:)
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    Post  enemyofNWO Thu Jan 06, 2011 2:12 pm

    Marie wrote:
    orthodoxymoron wrote:Shouldn't we really attempt to understand the true nature of Humanity - the true nature of the Annunaki - and the true nature of the relationship between Humanity and the Annunaki - which might include a very ugly history? Eleni, can you tell us anything about the Annunaki? I remember you telling us some things on Avalon 1. I tend to think that everyone is screwed-up - and that if most of us were placed in the positions which the elite occupy - we might be just as bad, or worse, than they are.

    I think you are right, Maybe we should try to understand all those points. If we want to understand what is happening now, i guess we need to understand the past? But is that really necessary? I am not sure. But i do not think that everyone that would be in positions of the elites would be as bad or worse. But i think it is important to understand their point of view if we want to understand more. They are looking from their perception. They think they are doing the right thing. Now where do we go from there? No idea!:)


    If for you exterminating most of the humans is OK ,may be you should join them .
    It must be remembered that those criminal families have imposed their system of government ( by buying politicians from all sides ) , and the economic system that SUCKS which is destroying our planet . So now they propose their solution to EXYERMINATE US ( 6.3 billion people ) . I do understand the problem and the problem are all those families ! This solution implies only the little sacrifice of 33 bloodsucking families . We need urgently a change of management in this world . There is food for everybody .
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    Post  Oliver Thu Jan 06, 2011 2:24 pm

    I believe, simply, that they, the so-called rulers, are more confused with what is happening and what will happen to this planet than we all are.
    If this is true that they really want to share with us SOMETHING, than it shows that they want to escape their own responsibility.
    They do not have what to share with us.
    (At least I am not interested in their stories anymore).
    It is their game, not ours.
    They will get what they deserve.
    If they are They, of course.

    Greetings,


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    Post  Floyd Thu Jan 06, 2011 2:30 pm

    eleni wrote:The latest from Charles:


    Dear All:

    'Charles' has asked me to post this on his behalf. It's been very slightly edited for ease of presentation (which he asked me to do).

    The meaning, content and style are unaltered.

    As is often the case with Charles, the information he presents is designed to make the recipient think for themselves just a little.

    ------
    If you are a type of animal that's genetically passive, you have no aggressive tendencies.

    Let's say as result of not eating the small creatures, because you're not equipped mentally for callous self-preservation, you ignore part of your diet that is in turn needed to give you a genetic boost of those very abilities.

    This renders you even less able to gather that nutritional violent 'Viagra'.

    Then let's say that the other properties of that area of available diet - or in this animal's case, the lack of it - are that you tend to be deficient in some mental ability.

    Now let's put this imaginary animal in a fairly hostile environment.

    Hard life... and no real genetic potential.

    Now let's add some other genetic material to the mix.

    The same animal now does have genetic callous ability, and takes advantage of every opportunity, food, control of environment, to excel at being there, staying... not dying off to be consigned to the genetic memory of mistakes and dead ends.

    Let's say this diet enables this version to think in a less cluttered manner, to clearly understand this must be done to dominate and survive.

    Let's say this animal has a different thought process.

    In being able to achieve this thought process, can you now imagine that this animal, if it's unchecked, will successfully be the result of its own demise by stripping its environment.

    Let's introduce yet more DNA.

    Now we have a hybrid that can understand all aspects due to a combination of both DNA strings and diets.

    It's able to see its brothers' and sisters' weaknesses: true weaknesses, as callous behaviour in the second strain's nature is also a weakness.

    Let's say this hybrid's diet and thinking is a mix of the two.

    A Gemini in one.

    Let's say this animal understands that all strains are needed to survive the habitat.

    Having this understanding of what should it do:

    MANAGE.

    I have rarely come across so much crap that has come across so much exposure. The video interview is hilarious. About 17 minutes of it has any content where he actually says anything. Most of it is Ryan saying.."I hear you"..What did he hear. All I heard is little, nothing or at best contradiction. I appreciate Bill's quest for a new earth but here we have a conversation between two control freaks. Examine the body language with the volume off. I think watching a re run of Dallas would be more enlightening.
    I am amazed how much this has disturbed Avalon. Bill has been digging his own grave for some time now but this really is the final nail in the coffin of his credibility as a useful source of information.
    Funny and sad at the same time. A very aggressive subject who did a fine job.

    Has anyone interviewed anybody interesting with something useful to say lately?
    Please do tell,
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    Post  orthodoxymoron Thu Jan 06, 2011 2:34 pm

    enemyofNWO wrote:
    Marie wrote:
    orthodoxymoron wrote:Shouldn't we really attempt to understand the true nature of Humanity - the true nature of the Annunaki - and the true nature of the relationship between Humanity and the Annunaki - which might include a very ugly history? Eleni, can you tell us anything about the Annunaki? I remember you telling us some things on Avalon 1. I tend to think that everyone is screwed-up - and that if most of us were placed in the positions which the elite occupy - we might be just as bad, or worse, than they are.

    I think you are right, Maybe we should try to understand all those points. If we want to understand what is happening now, i guess we need to understand the past? But is that really necessary? I am not sure. But i do not think that everyone that would be in positions of the elites would be as bad or worse. But i think it is important to understand their point of view if we want to understand more. They are looking from their perception. They think they are doing the right thing. Now where do we go from there? No idea!:)

    If for you exterminating most of the humans is OK ,may be you should join them .
    It must be remembered that those criminal families have imposed their system of government ( by buying politicians from all sides ) , and the economic system that SUCKS which is destroying our planet . So now they propose their solution to EXYERMINATE US ( 6.3 billion people ) . I do understand the problem and the problem are all those families ! This solution implies only the little sacrifice of 33 bloodsucking families . We need urgently a change of management in this world . There is food for everybody .

    I don't wish to join them. I wish for them to join me. http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t918-namaste-constitutional-responsible-freedom-solar-system Many of us are good - because we lack the opportunity to be bad. http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=16609&highlight=lucifer+effect Everyone has their price - which is why I desire that solar system governance become more transparent, decentralized, and accountable. Everyone seems to want to kill someone - which is why those who have the tiger by the tail, may be afraid to let go. Things might really go to hell. How do we make things better - without making things worse? I keep thinking that the full truth regarding all hidden ancient and modern power struggles - needs to be revealed to the general public (in installments) - and that a reconciliation should occur. But once more, I don't know much of this secret story. I don't know Jack. I don't even know Jill - or Kali, for that matter. I just keep thinking about an ancient hybridization program, abuse of power, rebellion, war, enslavement - and ultimately the Annunaki ruling Humanity from the shadows - and keeping forbidden knowledge, advanced technology, and who knows what - hidden from mankind. But, the Annunaki should be considered to be part of Humanity, shouldn't they? Just asking. I keep thinking that probably no one is guiltless - historically and presently. I keep thinking about Gizeh Intelligence, Confiscated Technology, Underground Bases, Hybridization, Monotheism, North Africa, the Middle East, India, China, and Tibet. The ancient power struggles might have been really, really bad - and might have included nuclear war (throughout the solar system - or War in Heaven?). 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_PfhV_Hns4 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jConUC-tC6g&feature=related 3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mHe211mLV0&feature=related Our recorded history might be the cold war aftermath of a really hot war. And always remember that the victors write the history books. Could the Sumerian Tablets and the Bible have been purposely miswritten - to hide a very different, and much darker, history? What would Kali say?


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    Post  mudra Thu Jan 06, 2011 2:53 pm

    eleni wrote:
    I'm not so sure about more than half of what was said.

    That does'nt leave a lot as he already said hardly anything imo.
    One is treading on eggs while the other is making sure he does so . This does'nt lead anywhere .


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    Post  mudra Thu Jan 06, 2011 3:01 pm

    eleni wrote:

    As is often the case with Charles, the information he presents is designed to make the recipient think for themselves just a little.


    Think for themselves just a little ...

    hmmm... that tells a lot Wink

    Love Always
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    Post  Marie Thu Jan 06, 2011 3:04 pm

    enemyofNWO wrote:
    Marie wrote:
    orthodoxymoron wrote:Shouldn't we really attempt to understand the true nature of Humanity - the true nature of the Annunaki - and the true nature of the relationship between Humanity and the Annunaki - which might include a very ugly history? Eleni, can you tell us anything about the Annunaki? I remember you telling us some things on Avalon 1. I tend to think that everyone is screwed-up - and that if most of us were placed in the positions which the elite occupy - we might be just as bad, or worse, than they are.

    I think you are right, Maybe we should try to understand all those points. If we want to understand what is happening now, i guess we need to understand the past? But is that really necessary? I am not sure. But i do not think that everyone that would be in positions of the elites would be as bad or worse. But i think it is important to understand their point of view if we want to understand more. They are looking from their perception. They think they are doing the right thing. Now where do we go from there? No idea!:)


    If for you exterminating most of the humans is OK ,may be you should join them .
    It must be remembered that those criminal families have imposed their system of government ( by buying politicians from all sides ) , and the economic system that SUCKS which is destroying our planet . So now they propose their solution to EXYERMINATE US ( 6.3 billion people ) . I do understand the problem and the problem are all those families ! This solution implies only the little sacrifice of 33 bloodsucking families . We need urgently a change of management in this world . There is food for everybody .

    I am not saying it is ok, i am saying THEY think it is ok from their perception. And of course they are doing everything to make their plan work.
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    Post  Floyd Thu Jan 06, 2011 3:11 pm

    mudra wrote:
    eleni wrote:
    I'm not so sure about more than half of what was said.

    That does'nt leave a lot as he already said hardly anything imo.
    One is treading on eggs while the other is making sure he does so . This does'nt lead anywhere .


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    Post  orthodoxymoron Thu Jan 06, 2011 3:13 pm

    Floyd wrote:
    mudra wrote:
    eleni wrote:
    I'm not so sure about more than half of what was said.

    That does'nt leave a lot as he already said hardly anything imo.
    One is treading on eggs while the other is making sure he does so . This does'nt lead anywhere .


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    Post  eleni Thu Jan 06, 2011 3:27 pm

    mudra wrote:
    eleni wrote:

    As is often the case with Charles, the information he presents is designed to make the recipient think for themselves just a little.


    Think for themselves just a little ...

    hmmm... that tells a lot Wink

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    oh, I didn't write that- think for themselves- that came from Bill R. I think more credit is being given to these 33 freaks and their thug than they deserve.
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    Post  eleni Thu Jan 06, 2011 3:30 pm

    Ortho- I linked the Boyd info on the old PA about the Annunaki and they matched the description of 3 beings I had an encounter with 19 years ago. Other than that, I know nothing other than what I've read on the subject of Annunaki.
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    Post  Oliver Thu Jan 06, 2011 3:33 pm

    These are all honest, fair, and intelligent questions, Ortodoxymoron. And well said. And with burning & truthloving passion.
    Where there is a question, there must be an answer, too.
    There is no logic a question to appear, if no answer exists.
    However, the great master Osho once said:
    "When there is no question - THAT is the answer!"

    Damn duality! I am tired of it.It is boring. One always come to it at the end. Unsatisfying. We all have a wish for an absolute truth in our DNK. And duality always relativize it, ALWAYS!

    Damn it! I am tired of looking people suffering for truth.
    And why suffereing?

    Even Mother Teresa's faith was put in temptation at the end of her life. She wrote few letters with only one question: Why so much suffering, dear God? Why? What is the reason?

    I can not see any reason for so much evil in this world?
    It is absurd. If it is absurd than the life is an accidence.
    Damn hard to believe. I do not believe.

    Yes, Ortodoxymoron, we need answers!


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    orthodoxymoron wrote:
    enemyofNWO wrote:
    Marie wrote:
    orthodoxymoron wrote:Shouldn't we really attempt to understand the true nature of Humanity - the true nature of the Annunaki - and the true nature of the relationship between Humanity and the Annunaki - which might include a very ugly history? Eleni, can you tell us anything about the Annunaki? I remember you telling us some things on Avalon 1. I tend to think that everyone is screwed-up - and that if most of us were placed in the positions which the elite occupy - we might be just as bad, or worse, than they are.

    I think you are right, Maybe we should try to understand all those points. If we want to understand what is happening now, i guess we need to understand the past? But is that really necessary? I am not sure. But i do not think that everyone that would be in positions of the elites would be as bad or worse. But i think it is important to understand their point of view if we want to understand more. They are looking from their perception. They think they are doing the right thing. Now where do we go from there? No idea!:)

    If for you exterminating most of the humans is OK ,may be you should join them .
    It must be remembered that those criminal families have imposed their system of government ( by buying politicians from all sides ) , and the economic system that SUCKS which is destroying our planet . So now they propose their solution to EXYERMINATE US ( 6.3 billion people ) . I do understand the problem and the problem are all those families ! This solution implies only the little sacrifice of 33 bloodsucking families . We need urgently a change of management in this world . There is food for everybody .

    I don't wish to join them. I wish for them to join me. http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t918-namaste-constitutional-responsible-freedom-solar-system Many of us are good - because we lack the opportunity to be bad. http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=16609&highlight=lucifer+effect Everyone has their price - which is why I desire that solar system governance become more transparent, decentralized, and accountable. Everyone seems to want to kill someone - which is why those who have the tiger by the tail, may be afraid to let go. Things might really go to hell. How do we make things better - without making things worse? I keep thinking that the full truth regarding all hidden ancient and modern power struggles - needs to be revealed to the general public (in installments) - and that a reconciliation should occur. But once more, I don't know much of this secret story. I don't know Jack. I don't even know Jill - or Kali, for that matter. I just keep thinking about an ancient hybridization program, abuse of power, rebellion, war, enslavement - and ultimately the Annunaki ruling Humanity from the shadows - and keeping forbidden knowledge, advanced technology, and who knows what - hidden from mankind. But, the Annunaki should be considered to be part of Humanity, shouldn't they? Just asking. I keep thinking that probably no one is guiltless - historically and presently. I keep thinking about Gizeh Intelligence, Confiscated Technology, Underground Bases, Hybridization, Monotheism, North Africa, the Middle East, India, China, and Tibet. The ancient power struggles might have been really, really bad - and might have included nuclear war (throughout the solar system - or War in Heaven?). 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_PfhV_Hns4 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jConUC-tC6g&feature=related 3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mHe211mLV0&feature=related Our recorded history might be the cold war aftermath of a really hot war. And always remember that the victors write the history books. Could the Sumerian Tablets and the Bible have been purposely miswritten - to hide a very different, and much darker, history? What would Kali say?

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