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    Post  blue roller Tue Mar 01, 2016 1:21 pm

    Swanny wrote:So Blue you decided to take on human form to live on this planet even though in your mind you're part of a vastly superior race and now you spend your time trolling around forums trying to convince people that nordics are wonderful creatures yet aren't here to help them.
    I must be missing something so maybe you could explain what exactly you're doing here in this forum and on this planet?? Are you just here to gloat?


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    I have never EVER said we are superior. I have said we work very hard to live in harmony with Nature .That is the difference Swanny .

    Typical programmed human response , project your own issues on the 'enemy' Accused of the arrogance you are so want to display.

    You dont get it because you dont want to get it. YOU get off on the abuse you suffer and inflict on others , no matter what you say to the contrary.

    One second you scream like a spoiled little girl because we dont help you sort out YOUR MESS. The next you deny our existence because 'we look down on you'. Do you have any idea of of how absurd you look when you spin round in such tight hypocritical circles ?

    The only Intelligent input I have seen so far is from Mudra . She gets it . She cares. That's the whole point . If you care you will do the right thing. If you just whine and complain and show nothing but crappy attitude your going to be left out of the negotiations.

    I don't give a rats arse if you believe a word of what I say but this much is certain. Your Planet is not a haven of sanity .Its a crap storm of hate ,fear and poisonous attitude and you Swanny are a perfect example of just how messed up Humans are in their attitude.

    If we decloaked above your house tomorrow to say hello , you would crap your pants so fast and faint ! BUT that's not what we are trying to do here.

    My ancestors seeded this planet a long long time ago and let nature take its course .Unfortunately Jehovah discovered it and the results are plain for even you to see. Misery suffering and a dying world. Your attitude of blame and denial is a virus ,just like your god.
    You worship him by using his arguments. Circular ,illogical and inconsistent . Keep going Swanny , its your own hole your digging .

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    Post  blue roller Tue Mar 01, 2016 1:39 pm

    Hi Orthy.
    Hope you dont mind the short handle being used. Its like this. If your a lab rat which most humans are , you dont know who is playing you or why. You just know your hungry and sometimes the door on the right gives you a shock and some days the door on the left gives you a shock when you try to get food from it.

    So most humans do not speak from a position of knowledge because they have not risen above the Lab and seen the men in white coats messing with them, YET.

    At night though when the men in white coats have gone home to kick the dog and humiliate their wives , we try to connect with the lab rats and give them a vision of running wild through the grass. They still wake up in cage but wow , what was that dream about ?

    SO one day a careless scientist leaves a cage door open and a rat escapes to the wild outdoors and f**k ME ! Finds out the dream is real. He meets other free rats and they say yes , we have been trying to free you guys for years but we could not break in so we came to you in dreams .

    The rat then says to his wild friends "we have to go back ,there are more of our kind in there suffering unspeakably !'
    His wild friends want to help so they arrange a break in.

    But when they go back they find all the lab rats are being subjected to a new experiment involving extremely addictive drugs. They break open the cage doors but their lab friends dont want to leave. But you can be free ,the free rats say . But the lab rats say hey ,we get fed and housed and all they want is a blood sample everyday. It hurts a bit but so what. No you go back to the wild ,we are happy here. At that point , the Scientist enters the lab and see's the wild rats and goes ape s**t !

    He does not want his experiment f****d up by thoughts of freedom ! So he kills the free rats and drugs the lab rats to put them back to sleep. So they think it was just a dream the next day.
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    Post  blue roller Tue Mar 01, 2016 2:07 pm

    Carol wrote:Po, po Blue. You actually ended up in a forum with a number of very old souls. I'm constantly laughing at what is occurring here as this thread is quite entertaining.

    Swanny and mudra both hit the nail on the head. And just for the record BR.. I tend to stick with the facts and first hand experience. Not disinfo. If you choose not to accept another's experiences and perspective different from your own - what does that tell you about yourself?

    You can tell a lot about a woman by the hand bag she carries . Its like an advertisement for her . Leopard print and lots of gold chain says I am looking to be a sex kitten for any many who's got enough money to keep me in a Mercedes convertible and a house full of overstated excess. You know ,white furniture that no one gets to sit in comfortably and relax . Show home for show pony.

    Then you get the new age types with the ethnic handbags who don't shave their legs and fill their heads with non threatening fairy's and Granola rat feed diet. They obsess about astrology and tarot and whatever the next spiritual fluffy guru has to say about how beautiful they are . These women are usually the result of the abusive narcissistic Leopard print brigade.

    Its a circle jerk of greed and self hate . Either way , the compensations they embrace do not fill the emptiness they feel inside.

    Outside this closed circle of recrimination and blame a Young woman leaves home and makes her own way in the world .She keeps an open mind . Learns from her mistakes and moves on when it no longer works for her. She see's all these slave mentality types and knows only that they are not happy and at peace. She likes being in nature and dresses how she feels without regard for what other people think. She is natural.

    One day she meets a guy who has an easy smile and a kind heart . He does not worry much about what other people think or say either .He just does his own thing . They fall in love and find great happiness in each others uniqueness and share a life. Their children are happy and full of joy.

    The other women learn to hate this couple for finding what they dont have . They put it down to blind luck ! and wait for the man who will never come . Because that good man will take one look at them and see a selfish Bitch /desperate flake incapable of genuine warmth or affection, either of them.

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    Post  Carol Tue Mar 01, 2016 2:17 pm



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    With deepest respect ~ Aloha & Mahalo, Carol
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    Post  blue roller Tue Mar 01, 2016 2:18 pm

    Thank you Mudra. Ever been hugged by an ET ? Its like being hugged by a Frenchman only with a bit more savoir faire. Unless that cheeky french man is an ET in disguise . In which case you get good food and good love . Works for me anyway.

    Love is not something that happens to you , its the place where you are love and live love and give love. Its a state of being . You dont have to search for it , its searching for you . But most people dont open the door when it knocks.

    You cant buy it ,you cant sell it .You can be it , then you can see it .
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    Post  orthodoxymoron Tue Mar 01, 2016 2:35 pm

    Thank-you blueroller. What you said reminded me of Goliath Awaits and Pinky and the Brain. I keep thinking this whole mess is a tussle between two Archangels (Gabriel and Michael??) -- but I'm not sure if they're Friends -- Enemies -- or BOTH Friends and Enemies. I keep thinking this Solar System might be a Galactic Rat-Trap -- and that the War in Heaven and Earth might be an Archangelic False-Flag!! I have a HUGE Amount of Silent-Homework to do -- so I'm honestly trying to STOP Posting!! BTW -- Hell Hath No Fury Like a Goddess Scorned!! What Would Lilith Say?? What if Lilith = Michael = Christ?? What if Eve = Gabriel = Antichrist?? What if Adam = Humanity?? What if Lilith and Eve are teaching Humanity and the Universe a VERY Important Lesson?? Remember in Earth: Final Conflict that Ma'el NEVER Came to Earth?! Mael = Michael = Lilith = Christ = Lamb Slain from the Foundation of the World?? What Would Sherry Shriner Say?? Despite her apparent craziness, I think Sherry KNOWS. I think Carol KNOWS. I think Mercuriel KNOWS. I think Raven KNOWS. I think Brook KNOWS. I think Lionhawk KNOWS. I think Mudra KNOWS. I could continue. I also KNOW That I Don't KNOW. That's why I wish to Go INCOGNITO. Geronimo.



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    Post  Swanny Tue Mar 01, 2016 3:32 pm

    blue roller wrote:

    I don't give a rats arse if you believe a word of what I say


    That's good to hear because I don't Lolerz
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    Post  blue roller Tue Mar 01, 2016 4:16 pm

    Don't sell yourself short Orthy . That's what the men and WOMEN in white coats want you to do . Yes ,they know who you are and yes they are trying to keep you in play on their terms by messing with your head and throwing you half truths dressed as fresh food .

    Dont look for the food , look for the invisible bars that enslave you . Guilt ,shame, fear ,self doubt,anger ,hate.

    Look at how Swanny works if you need to understand these types. Always trying to get emotive responses through false accusations . But the more he plays his hand to try and get you to bite ,the more he shows his hand. Sooner or later he's going to run out of cards and unlike him I have plenty of fresh decks to choose from. And worse , I am not in the lab , I am a visitor who can walk through bars.

    The lab owners are the biggest experiment of all. They are experimenting on themselves behind a barbed wire electric fence ! yet they think they are in control . Now that's Dumb.

    Let the fools play games in their little Lab .

    Old souls with Alzheimer's  go nowhere fast.

    Right ? Very Happy
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    Post  blue roller Tue Mar 01, 2016 4:36 pm

    orthy , you spend a lot more time watching TV and films than I do ,which is good and it seems to me you are latching on very accurately to what your soul is prompting you is the right track.

    I took the more experiential track myself so a lot of this stuff is not familiar to me. The Important thing is that unlike most people you are seeing the subtext that underlines all these different threads /films etc.

    Dont forget to get out there and live though . You can only spend so much time at the feet of a master before he is going to get impatient , kick you in the Bum and say "get out there and experience truth , talking about it is just a primer ".

    Life is not a spectator sport . Only the dead watch from the sidelines.
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    Post  Sanicle Tue Mar 01, 2016 8:31 pm

    blue roller wrote:Thank you Mudra. Ever been hugged by an ET ? Its like being hugged by a Frenchman only with a bit more savoir faire. Unless that cheeky french man is an ET in disguise . In which case you get good food and good love . Works for me anyway.

    Love is not something that happens to you , its the place where you are love and live love and give love. Its a state of being . You dont have to search for it , its searching for you . But most people dont open the door when it knocks.

    You cant buy it ,you cant sell it .You can be it , then you can see it .

    As yes, Love.  The longer I live on this planet, the less I trust that word.  I think most of us have love in our hearts but then EGO comes along and love gets trounced.  The same can happen when fear comes along as well.  I know I'm not immune to the screaming voice of the ego either, but I'm working on it. Funny thing is though that it's often those that yell love most loudly who are the worst offenders.  Ah well, we all live and learn together.

    And No, that's not bitterness or self-pity talking Blue, as you usually accuse.  It's a realization that's been ongoing for some time, before you came along and amplified it.  I have plenty of real, sweet, reliable love in my life to compare the fake stuff with.  I'm a lucky woman.  Uncomplicated honesty is at the heart of it.

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    Post  orthodoxymoron Tue Mar 01, 2016 10:09 pm

    blue roller wrote:Don't sell yourself short Orthy . That's what the men and WOMEN in white coats want you to do . Yes ,they know who you are and yes they are trying to keep you in play on their terms by messing with your head and throwing you half truths dressed as fresh food .

    Dont look for the food , look for the invisible bars that enslave you . Guilt ,shame, fear ,self doubt,anger ,hate.

    Look at how Swanny works if you need to understand these types. Always trying to get emotive responses through false accusations . But the more he plays his hand to try and get you to bite ,the more he shows his hand. Sooner or later he's going to run out of cards and unlike him I have plenty of fresh decks to choose from. And worse , I am not in the lab , I am a visitor who can walk through bars.

    The lab owners are the biggest experiment of all. They are experimenting on themselves behind a barbed wire electric fence ! yet they think they are in control . Now that's Dumb.

    Let the fools play games in their little Lab .

    Old souls with Alzheimer's  go nowhere fast.

    Right ?
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    blue roller wrote:orthy , you spend a lot more time watching TV and films than I do ,which is good and it seems to me you are latching on very accurately to what your soul is prompting you is the right track.

    I took the more experiential track myself so a lot of this stuff is not familiar to me. The Important thing is that unlike most people you are seeing the subtext that underlines all these different threads /films etc.

    Dont forget to get out there and live though . You can only spend so much time at the feet of a master before he is going to get impatient , kick you in the Bum and say "get out there and experience truth , talking about it is just a primer ".

    Life is not a spectator sport . Only the dead watch from the sidelines
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    Thank-you blue roller. I'll be watching from the shadows (because I can't afford a bunker). I think I died inside (probably around the onset of puberty). Perhaps I can actually LIVE in my next life (if I even have one). BTW -- I'm still waiting for some sort of a scholarly critique of my United States of the Solar System threads -- but I'm not holding my breath. Perhaps I'll have to pay someone to do THAT. Should I submit a Multi-Agency Freedom of Information Act Request?? Should I retain a Theologian, Psychiatrist, Exorcist, and Attorney?? Pro Bono?? Or perhaps I should just talk to the Jesuits in the Vatican!! ET Phone Rome?? I'm sure they'd drop everything, and blurt everything out!! But then I'd know too much, and I'd no longer have the luxury of "plausible-deniability". Perhaps I should just shut-up and run!! Unfortunately, I don't think there's anyplace to hide. Not even for Insiders and Elites. ALL of Us might be more screwed than we can imagine (and I wish I were kidding).


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    Post  blue roller Tue Mar 01, 2016 10:50 pm

    No worries Orthy .I will check out your work now I know about it and get back to you .

    So back at the Rat Lab the next day there is an urgent meeting of all the whitecoats . The conversation went something like this.

    "Ladies and gentlemen ,what happened yesterday was a serious breach of security that could undermine everything we have achieved here and seriously affect our profitability as well so I want all the Rats that witnessed this event terminated NOW."

    So after the 'guilty' rats have been taken care of the White coats try to continue their work, But now Orthy , things are not the same . Rats who used to play the game and go through the labyrinth of torture to get a feed just sit in the corner , vacant and unmotivated. Other Rats just give up and die .
    Punishment is meted out to Rats that dont behave . In the meantime the quality of DNA samples is degrading and profits are slumping.

    Consternation reigns , beards are torn and the share price slides. The junior white coats ,not having any real idea why the fuss ,start their own investigations in to exactly what these DNA samples are used for ..............

    But what the Lab does not know is that the Rat that escaped had children. As soon as they were old enough ,white lab rat told his Children where he came from and about the suffering he experienced there . He told them ,never go near fences with big buildings behind them , no matter how curious you feel . Its dangerous.

    Now the Children have lost their father and grieve for him and his brothers and sisters in the lab .They call the lab the citadel ,or city for short. A place where innocent rats are turned in to slaves and made to do things they hate to get food and live.
    So to give hope to their rat cousins the children learn how to leave their bodies just like all wild rats learn to do .They visit the Lab unseen and start to case the joint for a weakness they can exploit. They call themselves the Reconnaissance rats which means the Rats who want to give their cousins a rebirth and new life ,free in the wild .

    Time goes on and the story is passed down through the generations . A new breed of rat emerges. Passionate, focused and idealistic ,combining wild rat cunning with a peculiar and unique knack for problem solving .

    Meanwhile back at the lab , the white coats are forced to become more and more brutal and extreme to get the Rats to stay the course. They have some success but the increasing instability of the Rats genome from genetic engineering is backfiring. The rats seem to be hallucinating or having extended REM episodes when they sleep............. No one can explain this strange turn of events except perhaps one man. The man who owns the lab and he keeps quiet.

    To be Continued.
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    Post  blue roller Tue Mar 01, 2016 11:22 pm

    Sanicle wrote:
    blue roller wrote:Thank you Mudra. Ever been hugged by an ET ? Its like being hugged by a Frenchman only with a bit more savoir faire. Unless that cheeky french man is an ET in disguise . In which case you get good food and good love . Works for me anyway.

    Love is not something that happens to you , its the place where you are love and live love and give love. Its a state of being . You dont have to search for it , its searching for you . But most people dont open the door when it knocks.

    You cant buy it ,you cant sell it .You can be it , then you can see it .

    As yes, Love.  The longer I live on this planet, the less I trust that word.  I think most of us have love in our hearts but then EGO comes along and love gets trounced.  The same can happen when fear comes along as well.  I know I'm not immune to the screaming voice of the ego either, but I'm working on it.  Funny thing is though that it's often those that yell love most loudly who are the worst offenders.  Ah well, we all live and learn together.

    And No, that's not bitterness or self-pity talking Blue, as you usually accuse.  It's a realization that's been ongoing for some time, before you came along and amplified it.  I have plenty of real, sweet, reliable love in my life to compare the fake stuff with.  I'm a lucky woman.  Uncomplicated honesty is at the heart of it.

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    If your so happy ,why do you protest and project on to me your own inner anguish , City Dweller ?
    Love is not love which alters when it alteration finds. Or makes exceptions for those who do not tow the party line.

    If your 'happy' then that's all that matters . But when some people protest to much its hard to avoid the impression there is unresolved hand baggage.

    Why do you even bother with 'worst offenders' ? Let it go .

    Before I came along ? Did we have some kind of secret Trist I am not aware of ? Did you develop some kind of attachment to me ?

    You see ,whats happening is that you are subconsciously emoting towards me to fill an emptiness . Now I am not judging you for that. You are.

    This is what happens when loneliness confronts truth. Don't be ashamed of what your feeling , get more aware of what your really saying .
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    Post  blue roller Wed Mar 02, 2016 12:09 am

    Through all the vicissitudes of corporate lab management a bright innocent young assistant starts work. Fresh out of University with a Degree in applied cloning technologies .A rookie with a soft heart in the wrong game.

    She starts out at the bottom ,cleaning out the cages , monitoring the new births and doing all the grunt work for the lab techs and senior research scientists .

    One day she watches a mother rat give birth ,fascinated by the loving attention the mother gives her new babies . For reasons she cant quite explain she feels compelled to keep a close eye on this litter.

    After a while she notices one young rat amongst all the pink eyed albinos has astonishingly beautiful bright blue eye's . She picks it up out of the cage and stares in to its eye's, captivated by the color and sparkle behind it . Then she does something that is a cause for instant dismissal .She gives it a name .
    Worse, she fakes its death in the Log book and takes it home.

    The name she gives the Rat is Nordy . Nordy becomes more than just a pet , he becomes her best friend because he is so funny ,cheeky and alive . She could swear he listens intently to her when she talks to him and he watches her when she sits at her lap top, patiently observing . On weekends she takes him shopping and he snuggles in her Blouse , peaking his head out as she wanders through the market . He is quite simply adorable .
    She gets a tee shirt made that says 'love me ,love my rat'. Its a joke but its somehow serious too. And it becomes Nordy's favorite top too.

    Nordy and Sarah become inseparable but she knows she must keep Nordy a secret from everyone at work. If word got out she would be the laughing stock and loose her job . She cant see why its such a big deal but its in the contract for some stupid reason.........

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    Post  blue roller Wed Mar 02, 2016 4:46 am

    One thing is for sure .You dont learn much about life or nature living in a cage or box. Often the prison isn't physical but mental .People in Fear are afraid to take risks of any kind. In its extreme form its called agoraphobia. Most people have a milder sub clinical form which is sanitized and called Normality.

    So its okay to be normal ? I don't think so .

    People who are in a constant state of fear tend to lash out for no apparent reason , but look a bit deeper and the reason is actually quite obvious. Sensual deprivation or in the common tongue , loneliness.

    But since loneliness is equated with failure , no one will admit to it openly. Travel for any length of time on your own and you will overcome shyness . The isolation combined with confronting each day as it comes soon teaches you to be adaptable and open. In the old days they called it pilgrimage or peregrination .

    Normality frowns on freedom so it replaces it with the Bullshit equivalent , Democracy . Or mob rule for short.
    Sameness replaces individuality and cloning starts to make sense to people who want to be THE SAME. funny how that works.
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    Post  Sanicle Wed Mar 02, 2016 4:48 am

    blue roller wrote:
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    blue roller wrote:Thank you Mudra. Ever been hugged by an ET ? Its like being hugged by a Frenchman only with a bit more savoir faire. Unless that cheeky french man is an ET in disguise . In which case you get good food and good love . Works for me anyway.

    Love is not something that happens to you , its the place where you are love and live love and give love. Its a state of being . You dont have to search for it , its searching for you . But most people dont open the door when it knocks.

    You cant buy it ,you cant sell it .You can be it , then you can see it .

    As yes, Love.  The longer I live on this planet, the less I trust that word.  I think most of us have love in our hearts but then EGO comes along and love gets trounced.  The same can happen when fear comes along as well.  I know I'm not immune to the screaming voice of the ego either, but I'm working on it.  Funny thing is though that it's often those that yell love most loudly who are the worst offenders.  Ah well, we all live and learn together.

    And No, that's not bitterness or self-pity talking Blue, as you usually accuse.  It's a realization that's been ongoing for some time, before you came along and amplified it.  I have plenty of real, sweet, reliable love in my life to compare the fake stuff with.  I'm a lucky woman.  Uncomplicated honesty is at the heart of it.

    Lionhawk

    If your so happy ,why do you protest and project on to me your own inner anguish , City Dweller ?
    Love is not love which alters when it alteration finds. Or makes exceptions for those who do not tow the party line.

    If your 'happy' then that's all that matters . But when some people protest to much its hard to avoid the impression there is unresolved hand baggage.

    Why do you even bother with 'worst offenders' ? Let it go .

    Before I came along ? Did we have some kind of secret Trist I am not aware of ? Did you develop some kind of attachment to me ?

    You see ,whats happening is that you are subconsciously emoting towards me to fill an emptiness . Now I am not judging you for that. You are.

    This is what happens when loneliness confronts truth. Don't be ashamed of what your feeling , get more aware of what your really saying .

    Sorry Blue, I'm having a bit of a giggle here. I think that you need to realize that everything I say does not revolve around you.

    Projecting what I said onto you alone? No.

    Secret tryst, attachment? No.

    Worst offenders? Not what you're thinking at all.

    Emoting just to you to fill an emptiness? No.

    Lonely? Yep, I live alone but am far from lonely.

    But thanks for not being a jerk about what I said this time. I love you
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    Post  blue roller Wed Mar 02, 2016 5:05 am

    There comes a breaking point when the self denial can no longer be contained and the lonely person reaches that place called desperation and shouts
    out . It could be a friend or work colleague or online acquaintance but whoever it is will have to process a barrage of pent up emotion .

    Ordinarily that pent up emotion is cynically channeled and harvested by the Church and state and corporate world for profit . But sometimes it leaks out elsewhere . Art , music , riots , forums.

    In dreams , the soul is trying to tell a story too , but most people make no effort at all to interpret their Dreams . That's a great loss .

    So what do most people do to damp down this emotional Fire ? They reinvent it and start to lie . They make up cover stories just like their govt does.

    Women can be the worst offenders in this regard . If they are attracted to a man they wont just say 'Hey fella I totally fancy you ,why dont you invite me out sometime ?' Oh no . Quite the opposite. They will make a scene over some silly thing and expect you to figure it out . Men then find themselves in the dubious entrapping position of decoding an agenda that is deliberately ambiguous and men don't like ambiguity.

    This is where it pays to do your Handbag Psychology homework guys or face the consequences. Failing that the avatar they choose is usually very indicative. Women are born advertisers.

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    Post  Sanicle Wed Mar 02, 2016 5:25 am

    Lolerz Blue, if that above relates to me I have to say that this 'person' finds herself getting cranky purely out of frustration at other people's duplicity and...um.. shall we say "over confidence" (as we're being 'nice')? I don't do hidden agendas. As I said I love honesty in all my communications and relationships. End of story. Maybe you're just not used to dealing with people like that. Keep enjoying your fantasies Blue. It's all good.
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    Post  Carol Wed Mar 02, 2016 8:38 am

    BR as a trained and licensed psychotherapist/psychoanalyst, dream interpretation was part of the training along with a number of other things. Many peoples mental health problems are often a combination of things. It can be genetic, medical based pertaining to some type of brain damage (even a small injury to the head), chemically induced by a variety of drugs both in utero by the mother and/or afterwards by ingesting such substances. The list is endless. Yet my personal experience based on both NDE and OBE moved my perception beyond the physical explanations of why or how a person behaves to the bigger picture of pre-birth challenges one sets up for themselves during the life lived as "human" on this planet in 3D, which is for the purpose of personal growth at the soul level. There is no need to judge anyone. In addition, many ET souls came to this planet at this time in earth's history to help it though the upcoming transition. They chose to be here in human bodies and work in this dimension irrespective of the difficulties that this experience presents dealing with various lower entities energies.

    I recall sitting across from Mellen-Thomas Benedict, an individual who was dead for several hours and then came back to life listening to his story of being on the other side. It was quite remarkable. His description about all of the problems with humanity and the planet was a personal journey from his emotional attitude of hatred toward the ills of humanity to one of great love and acceptance as he came to realize how all of these so-called "negatives" in reality were designed to collectively raise humanities consciousness.

    What I experience from you is a very limited view of humanity in general which I find quite sad. You attempt to distance yourself from that part of you which is human, yet fail to recognize the shell is just a tool to have a fuller experience of the world at a soul level. Strip away the physical form of off-worlders and humans.. what do you get?

    Our souls contain the sum total of our experiences (conscious and unconscious). Our DNA also contains the sum total of our memory of such which is often demonstrated when an individual undergoes certain types of body work and the hidden memories are triggered.

    In essence, living in a human body is about taking on the experience of what that is... in the third dimension. Most evolved beings can barely stand to be among those humans who would create violence, discord and cause harm. Subsequently, the only true way to overcome this negative influence on the planet is to become self-actualized via meditation and spiritual practice where one taps into that deep inner core of peace and surrenders to Cosmic Consciousness. Since I was fortunate to actually sit across from various spiritual masters, including the Dali Lama and others who literally levitated while in the practice of meditation, there is a deeper understanding of how the will along with intention can be used to move oneself along an evolutionary spiritual path back toward source.

    It's clear you see yourself as a teacher. Yet the spiritual master understands they are the student and everyone else is the "teacher." Hence, sans ego. Ego is a 3rd dimension construct to help deal with the experience of duality (good, bad pertaining to experiences and the choices ones makes). As one accumulates life experiences one comes to understand that what may have been considered a "bad" experience at one time is later in life understood to be a "good" experience due to what one learned about oneself. This is where judgment tends to fade and where one accepts the life experience for what it is - a tool and means for personal growth and evolution.

    As long as you remain "stuck" in the me versus them attitude - you'll continue to limit yourself as you use your personal "ego" defenses to protect yourself from a "bigger" reality.

    We're all on this planet in the 3rd dimension by "choice" as free will is the dominant factor when it comes to incarnation.


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    Post  Carol Wed Mar 02, 2016 9:07 am

    Mellen-Thomas Benedict's Near-Death Experience
    The Road to Death


    In 1982 I died from terminal cancer. The condition I had was inoperable, and any kind of chemotherapy they could give me would just have made me more of a vegetable. I was given six to eight months to live. I had been an information freak in the 1970's, and I had become increasingly despondent over the nuclear crisis, the ecology crisis, and so forth. So, since I did not have a spiritual basis, I began to believe that nature had made a mistake, and that we were probably a cancerous organism on the planet. I saw no way that we could get out from all the problems we had created for ourselves and the planet. I perceived all humans as cancer, and that is what I got. That is what killed me. Be careful what your world view is. It can feed back on you, especially if it is a negative world view. I had a seriously negative one. That is what led me into my death. I tried all sorts of alternative healing methods, but nothing helped.

    So I determined that this was really just between me and God. I had never really faced God before, or even dealt with God. I was not into any kind of spirituality at the time, but I began a journey into learning about spirituality and alternative healing. I set out to do all the reading I could and bone up on the subject, because I did not want to be surprised on the other side. So I started reading on various religions and philosophies. They were all very interesting, and gave hope that there was something on the other side.

    On the other hand, as a self-employed stained-glass artist at the time, I had no medical insurance whatsoever. So my life savings went overnight in testing. Then I was facing the medical profession without any kind of insurance. I did not want to have my family dragged down financially, so I determined to handle this myself. There was not constant pain, but there were black-outs. I got so that I would not dare to drive, and eventually I ended up in hospice care. I had my own personal hospice caretaker. I was very blessed by this angel who went through the last part of this with me. I lasted about eighteen months. I did not want to take a lot of drugs, since I wanted to be as conscious as possible. Then I experienced such pain that I had nothing but pain in my consciousness, luckily only for a few days at a time.

    I remember waking up one morning at home about 4:30 am, and I just knew that this was it. This was the day I was going to die. So I called a few friends and said goodbye. I woke up my hospice caretaker and told her. I had a private agreement with her that she would leave my dead body alone for six hours, since I had read that all kinds of interesting things happen when you die. I went back to sleep. The next thing I remember is the beginning of a typical near-death experience. Suddenly I was fully aware and I was standing up, but my body was in the bed. There was this darkness around me.

    Being out of my body was even more vivid than ordinary experience. It was so vivid that I could see every room in the house, I could see the top of the house, I could see around the house, I could see under the house.

    3. The Light of God

    There was this light shining. I turned toward the light. The light was very similar to what many other people have described in their near-death experiences. It was so magnificent. It is tangible; you can feel it. It is alluring; you want to go to it like you would want to go to your ideal mother's or father's arms.

    As I began to move toward the light, I knew intuitively that if I went to the light, I would be dead.

    So as I was moving toward the light I said, "Please wait a minute, just hold on a second here. I want to think about this; I would like to talk to you before I go."

    To my surprise, the entire experience halted at that point. You are indeed in control of your near-death experience. You are not on a roller coaster ride. So my request was honored and I had some conversations with the light. The light kept changing into different figures, like Jesus, Buddha, Krishna, mandalas, archetypal images and signs.

    I asked the light, "What is going on here? Please, light, clarify yourself for me. I really want to know the reality of the situation."

    I cannot really say the exact words, because it was sort of telepathy. The light responded. The information transferred to me was that your beliefs shape the kind of feedback you are getting before the light. If you were a Buddhist or Catholic or Fundamentalist, you get a feedback loop of your own stuff. You have a chance to look at it and examine it, but most people do not.

    As the light revealed itself to me, I became aware that what I was really seeing was our Higher Self matrix. The only thing I can tell you is that it turned into a matrix, a mandala of human souls, and what I saw was that what we call our Higher Self in each of us is a matrix. It's also a conduit to the Source; each one of us comes directly, as a direct experience from the Source. We all have a Higher Self, or an oversoul part of our being. It revealed itself to me in its truest energy form. The only way I can really describe it is that the being of the Higher Self is more like a conduit. It did not look like that, but it is a direct connection to the Source that each and every one of us has. We are directly connected to the Source.

    So the light was showing me the Higher Self matrix. And it became very clear to me that all the Higher Selves are connected as one being, all humans are connected as one being, we are actually the same being, different aspects of the same being. It was not committed to one particular religion. So that is what was being fed back to me. And I saw this mandala of human souls. It was the most beautiful thing I have ever seen. I just went into it and, it was just overwhelming. It was like all the love you've every wanted, and it was the kind of love that cures, heals, regenerates.

    As I asked the light to keep explaining, I understood what the Higher Self matrix is. We have a grid around the planet where all the Higher Selves are connected. This is like a great company, a next subtle level of energy around us, the spirit level, you might say.

    Then, after a couple of minutes, I asked for more clarification. I really wanted to know what the universe is about, and I was ready to go at that time.

    I said, "I am ready, take me."

    4. The River of Life

    Then the light turned into the most beautiful thing that I have ever seen: a mandala of human souls on this planet.

    Now I came to this with my negative view of what has happened on the planet. So as I asked the light to keep clarifying for me, I saw in this magnificent mandala how beautiful we all are in our essence, our core. We are the most beautiful creations. The human soul, the human matrix that we all make together is absolutely fantastic, elegant, exotic, everything. I just cannot say enough about how it changed my opinion of human beings in that instant.

    I said, "Oh, God, I did not know how beautiful we are."

    At any level, high or low, in whatever shape you are in, you are the most beautiful creation, you are.

    I was astonished to find that there was no evil in any soul.

    I said, "How can this be?"

    The answer was that no soul was inherently evil. The terrible things that happened to people might make them do evil things, but their souls were not evil. What all people seek, what sustains them, is love, the light told me. What distorts people is a lack of love.

    The revelations coming from the light seemed to go on and on, then I asked the light, "Does this mean that humankind will be saved?"

    Then, like a trumpet blast with a shower of spiraling lights, the Great Light spoke, saying:
    "Remember this and never forget; you save, redeem and heal yourself. You always have. You always will. You were created with the power to do so from before the beginning of the world."

    In that instant I realized even more. I realized that WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN SAVED, and we saved ourselves because we were designed to self-correct like the rest of God's universe. This is what the second coming is about.

    I thanked the light of God with all my heart. The best thing I could come up with was these simple words of totally appreciation: "Oh dear God, dear Universe, dear Great Self, I love my life."

    The light seemed to breathe me in even more deeply. It was as if the light was completely absorbing me. The love light is, to this day, indescribable. I entered into another realm, more profound than the last, and became aware of something more, much more. It was an enormous stream of light, vast and full, deep in the heart of life. I asked what this was.

    The light responded:
    "This is the RIVER OF LIFE. Drink of this manna water to your heart's content."
    So I did. I took one big drink and then another. To drink of life Itself! I was in ecstasy.

    Then the light said:
    "You have a desire."
    The light knew all about me, everything past, present and future.

    "Yes!" I whispered.

    I asked to see the rest of the universe; beyond our solar system, beyond all human illusion. The light then told me that I could go with the Stream. I did, and was carried through the light at the end of the tunnel. I felt and heard a series of very soft sonic booms. What a rush!

    Suddenly I seemed to be rocketing away from the planet on this stream of life. I saw the Earth fly away. The solar system, in all its splendor, whizzed by and disappeared. At faster than light speed, I flew through the center of the galaxy, absorbing more knowledge as I went. I learned that this galaxy, and all of the universe, is bursting with many different varieties of LIFE. I saw many worlds. The good news is that we are not alone in this universe!

    As I rode this stream of consciousness through the center of the galaxy, the stream was expanding in awesome fractal waves of energy. The super clusters of galaxies with all their ancient wisdom flew by. At first I thought I was going somewhere; actually traveling. But then I realized that, as the stream was expanding, my own consciousness was also expanding to take in everything in the universe! All creation passed by me. It was an unimaginable wonder! I truly was a wonder child; a babe in Wonderland!

    It seemed as if all the creations in the universe soared by me and vanished in a speck of light. Almost immediately, a second light appeared. It came from all sides, and was so different; a light made up of more than every frequency in the universe.

    5. The Void

    I felt and heard several velvety sonic booms again. My consciousness, or being, was expanding to interface with the entire holographic universe and more.

    As I passed into the second light, the awareness came to me that I had just transcended the truth. Those are the best words I have for it, but I will try to explain. As I passed into the second light, I expanded beyond the first light. I found myself in a profound stillness, beyond all silence. I could see or perceive FOREVER, beyond infinity. I was in the void. I was in pre-creation, before the Big Bang. I had crossed over the beginning of time - the first word - the first vibration. I was in the eye of creation. I felt as if I was touching the face of God. It was not a religious feeling. Simply I was at one with absolute life and consciousness.

    When I say that I could see or perceive forever, I mean that I could experience all of creation generating itself. It was without beginning and without end. That's a mind-expanding thought, isn't it? Scientists perceive the Big Bang as a single event which created the universe. I saw that the Big Bang is only one of an infinite number of Big Bangs creating universes endlessly and simultaneously. The only images that even come close in human terms would be those created by supercomputers using fractal geometry equations.

    The ancients knew of this. They said Godhead periodically created new universes by breathing out, and de-creating other universes by breathing in. These epochs were called yugas. Modern science called this the Big Bang. I was in absolute, pure consciousness. I could see or perceive all the Big Bangs or yugas creating and de-creating themselves. Instantly I entered into them all simultaneously. I saw that each and every little piece of creation has the power to create. It is very difficult to try to explain this. I am still speechless about this.

    It took me years after I returned to assimilate any words at all for the void experience. I can tell you this now; the void is less than nothing, yet more than everything that is! The void is absolute zero; chaos forming all possibilities. It is absolute consciousness; much more than even universal intelligence.

    Where is the void? I know. The void is inside and outside everything. You, right now even while you live, are always inside and outside the void simultaneously. You don't have to go anywhere or die to get there. The void is the vacuum or nothingness between all physical manifestations. The SPACE between atoms and their components. Modern science has begun to study this space between everything. They call it zero-point. Whenever they try to measure it, their instruments go off the scale, or to infinity, so to speak. They have no way, as of yet, to measure infinity accurately. There is more of the zero space in your own body and the universe than anything else!

    What mystics call the void is not a void. It is so full of energy, a different kind of energy that has created everything that we are. Everything since the Big Bang is vibration, from the first word, which is the first vibration.

    The Biblical "I am" really has a question mark after it: "I am? What am I?"

    So creation is God exploring God's Self through every way imaginable, in an ongoing, infinite exploration through every one of us. Through every piece of hair on your head, through every leaf on every tree, through every atom, God is exploring God's Self, the great "I am". I began to see that everything that is, is the Self, literally, your Self, my Self. Everything is the great Self. That is why God knows even when a leaf falls. That is possible because, wherever you are, is the center of the universe. Wherever any atom is, that is the center of the universe. There is God in that, and God in the void.

    As I was exploring the void and all the yugas or creations, I was completely out of time and space as we know it. In this expanded state, I discovered that creation is about absolute pure consciousness, or God, coming into the experience of life as we know it. The void itself is devoid of experience. It is pre-life, before the first vibration. Godhead is about more than life and death. Therefore there is even more than life and death to experience in the universe!

    I was in the void and I was aware of everything that had ever been created. It was like I was looking out of God's eyes. I had become God. Suddenly I wasn't me anymore. The only thing I can say, I was looking out of God's eyes. And suddenly I knew why every atom was, and I could see everything.

    The interesting point was that I went into the void, I came back with this understanding that God is not there. God is here. That's what it is all about. So this constant search of the human race to go out and find God ... God gave everything to us, everything is here - this is where it's at. And what we are into now is God's exploration of God through us. People are so busy trying to become God that they ought to realize that we are already God and God is becoming us. That's what it is really about.

    When I realized this, I was finished with the void, and wanted to return to this creation, or yuga. It just seemed like the natural thing to do.

    Then I suddenly came back through the second light, or the Big Bang, hearing several more velvet booms. I rode the stream of consciousness back through all of creation, and what a ride it was! The superclusters of galaxies came through me with even more insights. I passed through the center of our galaxy, which is a black hole. Black holes are the great processors or recyclers of the universe. Do you know what is on the other side of a black hole? We are; our galaxy; which has been reprocessed from another universe.

    In its total energy configuration, the galaxy looked like a fantastic city of lights. All energy this side of the Big Bang is light. Every sub-atom, atom, star, planet, even consciousness itself is made of light and has a frequency and/or particle. Light is living stuff. Everything is made of light, even stones. So everything is alive. Everything is made from the light of God; everything is very intelligent.

    6. The Light of Love

    As I rode the stream on and on, I could eventually see a huge light coming. I knew it was the first light; the Higher Self light matrix of our solar system. Then the entire solar system appeared in the light, accompanied by one of those velvet booms.

    I saw that the solar system we live in is our larger, local body. This is our local body and we are much bigger than we imagine. I saw that the solar system is our body. I am a part of this, and the Earth is this great created being that we are, and we are the part of it that knows that it is. But we are only that part of it. We are not everything, but we are that part of it that knows that it is.

    I could see all the energy that this solar system generates, and it is an incredible light show! I could hear the Music of the Spheres. Our solar system, as do all celestial bodies, generates a unique matrix of light, sound and vibratory energies. Advanced civilizations from other star systems can spot life as we know it in the universe by the vibratory or energy matrix imprint. It is child's play. The Earth's wonder child (human beings) make an abundance of sound right now, like children playing in the backyard of the universe.

    I rode the stream directly into the center of the light. I felt embraced by the light as it took me in with its breath again, followed by another soft sonic boom.

    I was in this great light of love with the stream of life flowing through me. I have to say again, it is the most loving, non-judgmental light. It is the ideal parent for this wonder child.

    "What now?" I wondered.

    The light explained to me that there is no death; we are immortal beings. We have already been alive forever! I realized that we are part of a natural living system that recycles itself endlessly. I was never told that I had to come back. I just knew that I would. It was only natural, from what I had seen.

    I don't know how long I was with the light, in human time. But there came a moment when I realized that all my questions had been answered and my return was near. When I say that all my questions were answered on the other side, I mean to say just that. All my questions have been answered. Every human has a different life and set of questions to explore. Some of our questions are universal, but each of us is exploring this thing we call life in our own unique way. So is every other form of life, from mountains to every leaf on every tree.

    And that is very important to the rest of us in this universe. Because it all contributes to the Big Picture, the fullness of life. We are literally God exploring God's Self in an infinite Dance of Life. Your uniqueness enhances all of life.

    7. His Return to Earth

    As I began my return to the life cycle, it never crossed my mind, nor was I told, that I would return to the same body. It just did not matter. I had complete trust in the light and the life process. As the stream merged with the great light, I asked never to forget the revelations and the feelings of what I had learned on the other side.

    There was a "Yes." It felt like a kiss to my soul.

    Then I was taken back through the light into the vibratory realm again. The whole process reversed, with even more information being given to me. I came back home, and I was given lessons on the mechanics of reincarnation. I was given answers to all those little questions I had:

    "How does this work? How does that work?" I knew that I would be reincarnated.

    The Earth is a great processor of energy, and individual consciousness evolves out of that into each one of us. I thought of myself as a human for the first time, and I was happy to be that. From what I have seen, I would be happy to be an atom in this universe. An atom. So to be the human part of God ... this is the most fantastic blessing. It is a blessing beyond our wildest estimation of what blessing can be. For each and every one of us to be the human part of this experience is awesome, and magnificent. Each and every one of us, no matter where we are, screwed up or not, is a blessing to the planet, right where we are.

    So I went through the reincarnation process expecting to be a baby somewhere. But I was given a lesson on how individual identity and consciousness evolve. So I reincarnated back into this body.

    I was so surprised when I opened my eyes. I do not know why, because I understood it, but it was still such a surprise to be back in this body, back in my room with someone looking over me crying her eyes out. It was my hospice caretaker. She had given up an hour and a half after finding me dead. She was sure I was dead; all the signs of death were there - I was getting stiff. We do not know how long I was dead, but we do know that it was an hour and a half since I was found. She honored my wish to have my newly dead body left alone for a few hours as much as she could. We had an amplified stethoscope and many ways of checking out the vital functions of the body to see what was happening. She can verify that I really was dead.

    It was not a near-death experience. I experienced death itself for at least an hour and a half. She found me dead and checked the stethoscope, blood pressure and heart rate monitor for an hour and a half. Then I awakened and saw the light outside. I tried to get up to go to it, but I fell out of the bed. She heard a loud "clunk", ran in and found me on the floor.

    When I recovered, I was very surprised and yet very awed about what had happened to me. At first all the memory of the trip that I have now was not there. I kept slipping out of this world and kept asking, "Am I alive?" This world seemed more like a dream than that one.

    Within three days, I was feeling normal again, clearer, yet different than I had ever felt in my life. My memory of the journey came back later. I could see nothing wrong with any human being I had ever seen. Before that I was really judgmental. I thought a lot of people were really screwed up, in fact I thought that everybody was screwed up but me. But I got clear on all that.

    About three months later a friend said I should get tested, so I went and got the scans and so forth. I really felt good, so I was afraid of getting bad news.

    I remember the doctor at the clinic looking at the before and after scans, saying, "Well, there is nothing here now."

    I said, "Really, it must be a miracle?"

    He said, "No, these things happen, they are called spontaneous remission."

    He acted very unimpressed. But here was a miracle, and I was impressed, even if no one else was.

    8. The Lessons He Learned

    The mystery of life has very little to do with intelligence. The universe is not an intellectual process at all. The intellect is helpful; it is brilliant, but right now that is all we process with, instead of our hearts and the wiser part of ourselves.

    The center of the Earth is this great transmuter of energy, just as you see in pictures of our Earth's magnetic field. That's our cycle, pulling reincarnated souls back in and through it again. A sign that you are reaching human level is that you are beginning to evolve an individual consciousness. The animals have a group soul, and they reincarnate in group souls. A deer is pretty much going to be a deer forever. But just being born a human, whether deformed or genius, shows that you are on the path to developing an individual consciousness. That is in itself part of the group consciousness called humanity.

    I saw that races are personality clusters. Nations like France, Germany and China each have their own personality. Cities have personalities, their local group souls that attract certain people. Families have group souls. Individual identity is evolving like branches of a fractal; the group soul explores in our individuality. The different questions that each of us has are very, very important. This is how Godhead is exploring God's Self - through you. So ask your questions, do your searching. You will find your Self and you will find God in that Self, because it is only the Self.

    More than that, I began to see that each one of us humans are soul mates. We are part of the same soul fractaling out in many creative directions, but still the same. Now I look at every human being that I ever see, and I see a soul mate, my soul mate, the one I have always been looking for. Beyond that, the greatest soul mate that you will ever have is yourself. We are each both male and female. We experience this in the womb and we experience this in reincarnation states. If you are looking for that ultimate soul mate outside of yourself, you may never find it; it is not there. Just as God is not "there." God is here. Don't look "out there" for God. Look here for God. Look through your Self. Start having the greatest love affair you ever had ... with your Self. You will love everything out of that.

    I had a descent into what you might call hell, and it was very surprising. I did not see Satan or evil. My descent into hell was a descent into each person's customized human misery, ignorance, and darkness of not-knowing. It seemed like a miserable eternity. But each of the millions of souls around me had a little star of light always available. But no one seemed to pay attention to it. They were so consumed with their own grief, trauma and misery. But, after what seemed an eternity, I started calling out to that light, like a child calling to a parent for help. Then the light opened up and formed a tunnel that came right to me an insulated me from all that fear and pain. That is what hell really is.

    So what we are doing is learning to hold hands, to come together. The doors of hell are open now. We are going to link up, hold hands, and walk out of hell together.

    The light came to me and turned into a huge golden angel. I said, "Are you the angel of death?"

    It expressed to me that it was my oversoul, my Higher Self matrix, a super-ancient part of ourselves. Then I was taken to the light.

    Soon our science will quantify spirit. Isn't that going to be wonderful? We are coming up with devices now that are sensitive to subtle energy or spirit energy. Physicists use these atomic colliders to smash atoms to see what they are made of. They have got it down to quarks and charm, and all that. Well, one day they are going to come down to the little thing that holds it all together, and they are going to have to call that ... God. With atomic colliders they are not only seeing what is in here, but they are creating particles. Thank God most of them are short-lived milliseconds and nanoseconds. We are just beginning to understand that we are creating too, as we go along.

    As I saw forever, I came to a realm in which there is a point where we pass all knowledge and begin creating the next fractal, the next level. We have that power to create as we explore. And that is God expanding itself through us.

    Since my return I have experienced the light spontaneously, and I have learned how to get to that space almost any time in my meditation. Each one of you can do this. You do not have to die to do this. It is within your equipment; you are wired for it already.

    The body is the most magnificent light being there is. The body is a universe of incredible light. Spirit is not pushing us to dissolve this body. That is not what is happening. Stop trying to become God; God is becoming you. Here.

    The mind is like a child running around the universe, demanding this and thinking it created the world. But I ask the mind, "What did your mother have to do with this?"

    That is the next level of spiritual awareness. Oh! My mother! All of a sudden you give up the ego, because you are not the only soul in the universe.

    9. What Is Heaven?

    One of my questions to the light was, "What is heaven?"

    I was given a tour of all the heavens that have been created: the Nirvanas, the Happy Hunting Grounds, all of them. I went through them. These are thought form creations that we have created. We don't really go to heaven; we are reprocessed. But whatever we created, we leave a part of ourselves there. It is real, but it is not all of the soul.

    I saw the Christian heaven. We expect it to be a beautiful place, and you stand in front of the throne, worshipping forever. I tried it. It is boring! This is all we are going to do? It is childlike. I do not mean to offend anyone. Some heavens are very interesting, and some are very boring. I found the ancient ones to be more interesting, like the Native American ones, the Happy Hunting Grounds. The Egyptians have fantastic ones. It goes on and on. There are so many of them. In each of them there is a fractal that is your particular interpretation, unless you are part of the group soul that believes in only the God of a particular religion. Then you are very close, in the same ball park together. But even then, each is a little bit different. That is a part of yourself that you leave there. Death is about life, not about heaven.

    I asked God, "What is the best religion on the planet? Which one is right?"

    And Godhead said, with great love:
    "I don't care."
    That was incredible grace. What that meant was that we are the caring beings here.

    The Ultimate Godhead of all the stars tells us:
    "It does not matter what religion you are."
    They come and they go, they change. Buddhism has not been here forever, Catholicism has not been here forever, and they are all about to become more enlightened. More light is coming into all systems now. There is going to be a reformation in spirituality that is going to be just as dramatic as the Protestant Reformation. There will be lots of people fighting about it, one religion against the next, believing that only they are right.

    Everyone thinks they own God, the religions and philosophies, especially the religions, because they form big organizations around their philosophy. When Godhead said, "I don't care," I immediately understood that it is for us to care about. It is important, because we are the caring beings. It matters to us and that is where it is important. What you have is the energy equation in spirituality. Ultimate Godhead does not care if you are Protestant, Buddhist, or whatever. It is all a blooming facet of the whole. I wish that all religions would realize it and let each other be. It is not the end of each religion, but we are talking about the same God. Live and let live. Each has a different view. And it all adds up to the Big Picture; it is all important.

    I went over to the other side with a lot of fears about toxic waste, nuclear missiles, the population explosion, the rainforest. I came back loving every single problem. I love nuclear waste. I love the mushroom cloud; this is the holiest mandala that we have manifested to date, as an archetype. It, more than any religion or philosophy on Earth, brought us together all of a sudden, to a new level of consciousness. Knowing that maybe we can blow up the planet fifty times, or 500 times, we finally realize that maybe we are all here together now. For a period they had to keep setting off more bombs to get it in to us. Then we started saying, "We do not need this any more."

    Now we are actually in a safer world than we have ever been in, and it is going to get safer. So I came back loving toxic waste, because it brought us together. These things are so big. As Peter Russell might say, these problems are now "soul size." Do we have soul size answers? YES!

    The clearing of the rain forest will slow down, and in fifty years there will be more trees on the planet than in a long time. If you are into ecology, go for it; you are that part of the system that is becoming aware. Go for it with all your might, but do not be depressed. It is part of a larger thing.

    Earth is in the process of domesticating itself. It is never again going to be as wild a place as it once was. There will be great wild places, reserves where nature thrives. Gardening and reserves will be the thing in the future. Population increase is getting very close to the optimal range of energy to cause a shift in consciousness. That shift in consciousness will change politics, money, energy.

    What happens when we dream? We are multi-dimensional beings. We can access that through lucid dreaming. In fact, this universe is God's dream. One of the things that I saw is that we humans are a speck on a planet that is a speck in a galaxy that is a speck. Those are giant systems out there, and we are in sort of an average system. But human beings are already legendary throughout the cosmos of consciousness. The little bitty human being of Earth/Gaia is legendary. One of the things that we are legendary for is dreaming. We are legendary dreamers. In fact, the whole cosmos has been looking for the meaning of life, the meaning of it all. And it was the little dreamer who came up with the best answer ever. We dreamed it up. So dreams are important.

    After dying and coming back, I really respect life and death. In our DNA experiments we may have opened the door to a great secret. Soon we will be able to live as long as we want to live in this body. After living 150 years or so, there will be an intuitive soul sense that you will want to change channels. Living forever in one body is not as creative as reincarnation, as transferring energy in this fantastic vortex of energy that we are in. We are actually going to see the wisdom of life and death, and enjoy it.

    As it is now, we have already been alive forever. This body that you are in, has been alive forever. It comes from an unending stream of life, going back to the Big Bang and beyond. This body gives life to the next life, in dense and subtle energy. This body has been alive forever already.

    Read more: http://www.near-death.com/reincarnation/experiences/mellen-thomas-benedict.html


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    Post  Carol Wed Mar 02, 2016 9:51 am

    I found this interesting as well with respect to the human potential and what folks have already been doing for years.

    This basic philosophy is based upon the notion that the individual mind and soul is not a localized phenomenon within the body, and his memory images and the way he used them are anticipations of something very modern, and with a proven—though little understood—track record: remote viewing. Indeed, within the technique of remote viewing, the viewer first clears his mind, then focuses attention on the “target,”drawing an initial “squiggle,”an image or ideogram, which encapsulates all the information that is subsequently to be opened and elaborated upon by the viewer through controlled mental processes. This “squiggle”or ideogram is thus a kind of psychic “zip file.”98 And like Bruno centuries before, the scientists and participants in these remote viewing programs came to the conclusion that the mind, and its memory, were indeed non-local affairs, and that any individual could indeed access the vast sea of “information in the field”that constitutes the substrate to mind and the medium. It constituted—and please note the financial metaphor—a vast treasury of information that could be drawn upon by anyone, anytime, anywhere, provided one knew the proper “magical”techniques. Mind and memory were thus, for Bruno, a kind of metaphysical treasury of intellectual money, a medium of the exchange of information, accessible to all. As we shall see in the next chapter, this too constituted a threat to the papacy, with its doctrine of the Treasury of Merit. It was small wonder then that Bruno, having demoted Yahweh to one of many mutable gods, should have caused the ire of the Vatican. And we have provided hints, in this chapter, of why he should have been so anxiously sought by a Venetian nobleman, who, having learned the Nolan’s secrets of magical memory, should also have turned him over to the Inquisition. But why would Bruno have been denounced as an atheist in England, and received as the warmest theist in Germany? How does one explain this apparent contradictory assessment of the man and his memory magic? And why would it take a combination of Vatican bishops and Venetian banksters to bring him down? " Joseph P. Farrell, Financial Vipers of Venice: Alchemical Money, Magical Physics, and Banking in the Middle Ages and Renaissance.

    This short video is also relevant.




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    Post  blue roller Wed Mar 02, 2016 2:08 pm

    Sanicle wrote:Lolerz Blue, if that above relates to me I have to say that this 'person' finds herself getting cranky purely out of frustration at other people's duplicity and...um.. shall we say "over confidence" (as we're being 'nice')?  I don't do hidden agendas.  As I said I love honesty in all my communications and relationships.  End of story.   Maybe you're just not used to dealing with people like that.  Keep enjoying your fantasies Blue.  It's all
    good.

    What made you think I was talking about you ? Do you suffer from the delusion you are the only female on the planet too ?

    If you don't believe me , try checking out the availability of a wide range of handbags that cater to every psychological profile down at Victoria markets . Or David Jones has a good selection if your taste leans more to the conventional .

    Controlling women is very profitable for the cabal because many women will happily pay twice as much for clothes/accessories of half the quality than men will put up with.

    Men have many faults but by and large they are better able to asses the relative real value of things and not waste so much time on body and clothes Image.

    Isolating women from real choices by indulging their vanity is the Cabals main tool of control. The cabal is male dominated so what would you expect ?
    In the mean time I have a story to tell and the story is not based on you or anyone else on this forum . Any resemblance to persons living or dead is purely coincidental . Enjoy the ride .


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    Post  blue roller Wed Mar 02, 2016 2:18 pm

    The story Tellers and cartoonists are an interesting bunch. Traditionally anarchic they get away with telling the truth by anthropomorphism .Turning their stories about humans in to animals.

    Pinky and the Brain Being a classic example amongst many .

    Professional psychology is a rats nest of abuse. Easily seduced by the influence they enjoy over their patients , many mental health professionals prey on their clients . But if you can find a good one they can be an enormous help in dealing objectively with your unresolved hand baggage. That's why they limit hand luggage on planes. Because women carry way to much . Just kidding. Cool Heh heh


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    Post  blue roller Wed Mar 02, 2016 2:34 pm

    Nordy did not mind being left at Sarah's home and having the run of the house everyday at first .He toilet trained himself and never left a mess . Pee went in the pot plants and the toilet seat was always left up for him to do his number two's. Sarah was that rare female who could accommodate a male rats needs and not make an issue out of it .

    But eventually his curiosity got the better of him and Sarah , being an intensely practical introverted type had a very large leather Handbag she took to work . Nordy just cadged a lift one morning when she was not looking. He knew he was not supposed to so it was the first secret he kept from her . He felt bad about that but he also felt very protective of Sarah and needed to know what she did during the day .

    Sarah had only a basic security clearance at the Lab and worked in the nursery section only. She had no access to the other parts of the lab at all. Better perhaps if she had never found out what happened elsewhere.

    But in the canteen she started to notice a guy that drew her eye . He was a techy by the look of it . Some what careless of his dress habits but he had an easy and kind smile . So one day Sarah deliberately accidentally spilled some coffee on him as she squeezed past him . That's how they met , over coffee. Destiny ? perhaps.

    One thing lead to another and Mike who had fancied her too from the first time he saw her took her out on a date. First date's are not for pets so Nordy had to stay at home . He was cool with that because he liked Mike.

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