TRANSPARENCY IN THE ONE TRUTH FORUM

B.B.Baghor wrote:
To me, a humorless discussion lacks vitality, missing a chance to evolve for the better or even dissolve. That missing of vitality might
be the very thing, Trancoso, that creates your earlier mentioned "boredom and a loss of appetite" Thanks for that insight of  
I've learned something today [/size]

truth wrote:I would like to post my 2 cents in here if that's ok.

Before i do i would like to ask the administrator  if i saying anything against Pris will it be deleted.Can i also point out that anything i do say will not be derogatory

I am not a troll but i think your readers deserve to here the other side.

NANUXII wrote:Stifling freedom of speech is a dangerous thing , to mute someone who cannot defend their honour is dangerous indeed , to accuse them of things they didnt do without cause is even more so , paehaps sadder than dangerous ..

at the end of this situation those who have been silenced will speak , they will voice their opinions and this is the creation of releasing that which is held down, this is natural , it should be allowed because soon after , once the bitterness is out , we let it all go and move on , and it becomes an insignificant moment in time , just a spec of dust in the realms of existance.. but make no mistake , without freedom of speech , comes hard times , fro those who opress us , you will be judged , for those who listen you will be appreciated.

i needed to have my say , so many times i tried to reason and be amicable but was silenced .. rudely , without compassion.. just a drunken attitude to ones own self congratulation.

now that the venom is gone and we dont care for fighting any more we can return to being our selves and moving forward without the opressor ..

NANUXII wrote:Stifling freedom of speech is a dangerous thing , to mute someone who cannot defend their honour is dangerous indeed , to accuse them of things they didnt do without cause is even more so , paehaps sadder than dangerous ..

at the end of this situation those who have been silenced will speak , they will voice their opinions and this is the creation of releasing that which is held down, this is natural , it should be allowed because soon after , once the bitterness is out , we let it all go and move on , and it becomes an insignificant moment in time , just a spec of dust in the realms of existance.. but make no mistake , without freedom of speech , comes hard times , fro those who opress us , you will be judged , for those who listen you will be appreciated.

i needed to have my say , so many times i tried to reason and be amicable but was silenced .. rudely , without compassion.. just a drunken attitude to ones own self congratulation.

now that the venom is gone and we dont care for fighting any more we can return to being our selves and moving forward without the opressor ..

NANUXII wrote:Stifling freedom of speech is a dangerous thing , to mute someone who cannot defend their honour is dangerous indeed , to accuse them of things they didnt do without cause is even more so , paehaps sadder than dangerous ..

at the end of this situation those who have been silenced will speak , they will voice their opinions and this is the creation of releasing that which is held down, this is natural , it should be allowed because soon after , once the bitterness is out , we let it all go and move on , and it becomes an insignificant moment in time , just a spec of dust in the realms of existance.. but make no mistake , without freedom of speech , comes hard times , fro those who opress us , you will be judged , for those who listen you will be appreciated.

.. rudely , without compassion.. just a drunken attitude to ones own self congratulation.

now that the venom is gone and we dont care for fighting any more we can return to being our selves and moving forward without the opressor

NANUXII wrote:Stifling freedom of speech is a dangerous thing , to mute someone who cannot defend their honour is dangerous indeed , to accuse them of things they didnt do without cause is even more so , paehaps sadder than dangerous ..

at the end of this situation those who have been silenced will speak , they will voice their opinions and this is the creation of releasing that which is held down, this is natural , it should be allowed because soon after , once the bitterness is out , we let it all go and move on , and it becomes an insignificant moment in time , just a spec of dust in the realms of existance.. but make no mistake , without freedom of speech , comes hard times , fro those who opress us , you will be judged , for those who listen you will be appreciated.

i needed to have my say , so many times i tried to reason and be amicable but was silenced .. rudely , without compassion.. just a drunken attitude to ones own self congratulation.

now that the venom is gone and we dont care for fighting any more we can return to being our selves and moving forward without the opressor ..

truth wrote:
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truth wrote:

NANUXII wrote:Stifling freedom of speech is a dangerous thing , to mute someone who cannot defend their honour is dangerous indeed , to accuse them of things they didnt do without cause is even more so , paehaps sadder than dangerous ..

at the end of this situation those who have been silenced will speak , they will voice their opinions and this is the creation of releasing that which is held down, this is natural , it should be allowed because soon after , once the bitterness is out , we let it all go and move on , and it becomes an insignificant moment in time , just a spec of dust in the realms of existance.. but make no mistake , without freedom of speech , comes hard times , fro those who opress us , you will be judged , for those who listen you will be appreciated.

i needed to have my say , so many times i tried to reason and be amicable but was silenced .. rudely , without compassion.. just a drunken attitude to ones own self congratulation.

now that the venom is gone and we dont care for fighting any more we can return to being our selves and moving forward without the opressor ..

Sanicle wrote:Seems 'Truth' can relate to what you wrote NANUXII.  He/she clearly has a lot of 'venom' to get out of his/her system as well going by his/her posts.  Shame that a forum for sharing can do this to people.

B.B.Baghor wrote:

NANUXII wrote:Stifling freedom of speech is a dangerous thing , to mute someone who cannot defend their honour is dangerous indeed , to accuse them of things they didnt do without cause is even more so , paehaps sadder than dangerous ..

at the end of this situation those who have been silenced will speak , they will voice their opinions and this is the creation of releasing that which is held down, this is natural , it should be allowed because soon after , once the bitterness is out , we let it all go and move on , and it becomes an insignificant moment in time , just a spec of dust in the realms of existance.. but make no mistake , without freedom of speech , comes hard times , fro those who opress us , you will be judged , for those who listen you will be appreciated.

.. rudely , without compassion.. just a drunken attitude to ones own self congratulation.
now that the venom is gone and we dont care for fighting any more we can return to being our selves and moving forward without the opressor

Hi NNUXII, I always try to see the light and life in what members share and so I try to see that present in your posts.
Sticking to the facts, as much as possible, the words shared in your post here:  i needed to have my say , so many times
i tried to reason and be amicable but was silenced .....etc. and to be clear, I am open to a better understanding of what it
is you're after, have you found answers in a moment of pondering about "sharing your say" and the way it's done by you?

Have you found moments to stop and think, before trying again... and..  as you mentioned.... again, in a different way?
Or deciding to choose a different way or do nothing at all? Finding more of the same as a response to your words, must be
pretty depressing and no vitamin for inspiration, I imagine, NNYXII. It all depends on where you're coming from and the only
one that can determine that is yourself, as I see it. I may be wrong and need more understanding of what it is you're trying
to share or find.

Your words: "...now that the venom is gone and we dont care for fighting any more we can return to being our selves..."
I honestly hope that the venom isn't gone for the sake of producing more. I mean having to go through it HERE, see?
To my understanding we always can return to being ourselves, without having to go through that venom thing first, or fighting,
in virtual communication like in the Mists here. I like a fair sparring excersize, clear difference of opinions and points of view.  
If the venom needs to go out, I don't dismiss its presencel, for I know what it is and how it feels, there are other spaces
for getting rid of venom, as I see it. This relates to our personal privacy and public sharing, in the open virtual space there are
ways of dealing with it, when mentioned and discussed, that can benefit those involved, in larger numbers than just the one
holding it inside, getting rid of it, see what I mean?

I guess time will tell, personally I'd rather see whatever needs to be clarified, told by your words here and now, you see?
I'm interested in what it is you like to share here, I don't see much value in commenting on what others do. Even more so
in bringing dirty linen over and try to fill up other people's washing machine.

NANUXII wrote:
As for the venom , ive said my piece, and now im going to venture else where speak about differen t subjects and be in dialogue with the members of the Mists

TRANCOSO wrote:I miss the essence in this discussion:
STYLE

where psychological or psychic warfare is prohibited

Pris wrote:

TRANCOSO wrote:I miss the essence in this discussion:
STYLE

Thanks, everyone!  I appreciate your contributions to this thread.

Just so everyone knows, I really don't have any bitterness, resentment, 'venom', whathaveyou, built up over this.  I do still feel somewhat irritated, but that's about it.  For example, I wonder how many people actually believe I have mental disorder now, thanks in part, to Aragorn lol?  Mostly, I feel sadness for Malcolm and everyone who's supporting him in this continued attack against me.

I really did have a good reason to do what I did.  

On TOT, I protested being censored, ridiculed, and attacked.  I tried so hard to be heard.  To avoid being censored, ridiculed, and attacked, I tried every round-about-way to be heard.  I was respectful, civil.  I tried helping others to be heard.  I tried and tried.  I kept hoping that one of my messages would eventually get through to them.  But, I realized, sadly, that the more I tried, the more they resisted.  

'Do or do not -- there is no try.'  Wise words (LOL).  I did something, and here we are.


Unfortunately, there's a lot more going on in TOT than 'simply' censorship of free speech.  'Experiment' comes to mind...  It's interesting how that word is in their 'mission statement'.  I also find it interesting that they should say this:

where psychological or psychic warfare is prohibited

Anyway, TRANCOSO, I couldn't help but pick up that part about cats in your video 'having style in abundance'.


Btw, 'Truth', it would be nice if you could contribute something... nice.  Otherwise...

truth wrote:

Oh come here you little vulture for a hug

truth wrote:

Oh come here you little vulture for a hug

Pris wrote:REVIEW and UPDATE for Mental Floss 2


Hello everyone!

Here is a review and update of the most recent events with regard to the forum, Mental Floss 2.

Quite recently, Si invited me to his forum, Mental Floss 2, which advocates 'freedom of speech'. That appealed to me, so I joined. Even though I was inactive as a member because I was still too busy over on The One Truth forum, Si knew that one day I might arrive with a few friends.

The day I sent out my 'TRANSPARENCY IN TOT' message en masse, I also emailed around nine people mentioning the Mental Floss 2 forum just prior to my ban from TOT. I did not tell Si what I had done and thought maybe a handful of people might show up in his forum. In the days that ensued, around 70 people joined.

To be clear, no one knew anything about my 'TRANSPARENCY IN TOT' message until after I had sent it out.

At first, in all the confusion, it seemed kind of fun -- the influx of new members. For Si (the founder of the forum since 2012) and myself, the whole thing was entirely unexpected and unplanned. The enormous task of running things and keeping everything together fell into our laps. That is when I asked Bob to help us with the forum. Under the circumstances, we would not have been able to cope without him.

Mental Floss 2 started out as a public, transparent, safe place for people to speak freely. It was because of this and not having yet established rules in dealing with the trolls that followed me over, that we were unable to ban them. Finally, we did, but the damage was done.

With more trolls attacking the forum, a decision was made to 'shut the gates' and screen members for registration. To me, this was supposed to be a temporary measure. Soon, however, it became clear an 'exclusive club' of ex-TOTers was forming. Without public view and only allowing for select membership, Mental Floss 2 was in danger of becoming a controlled social experiment. So, the rug was pulled out from under it for the best interests of all.

Regardless, many people had their eyes opened to what was really going on over in The One Truth forum and are now free to move on with their lives.

For anyone who may be interested, I now reside in another forum that advocates 'freedom of speech'. It is called, The Mists of Avalon.

Thank you all,

　
Pris

SophiasChoice wrote:Hmpf..
Yes I see that happening.
The way the rug was pulled out though was rather harsh in my humble opinion and left a lot of people already disorientated fall flat on their faces..

So even if the idea was good. The execution of it did not free people to go happily along.
Best interest? Well I have different ideas about that. A cause does not always justify the means to get there..

When the mass exodus from ToT happened a lot of people felt empowered. This little stunt had them not second guessing their decision per se, but took away a lot of the empowerment they felt. That's how it appears to me anyway.

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SC. (Eelco)