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    Post  Carol Thu Apr 30, 2015 4:11 pm

    truth (Aragorn?):

    This is a small international forum with readers from all around the globe. They come on a daily basis primarily for information. We're not that much of a chatty group. The discussions we have are for the most part about that information that is posted. Personally I don't see the need for you to post anything about Pris. She came here like many of us did.. as someone who was banned from another forum to the Mists. Hence our name. Our number one rule is mutual respect. Pris is doing something many of us did when we were banned. Just sharing what happened to her. It's a safe space for her here for however she wishes to remain - as long as she follows the rules. There are two.

    You just became a member today to give your side of what? You want to chat about a new member here? What value is that as that is not what we do, unless it's a compliment or recognize another member's effort with the info they share or what they share about themselves.

    I will add that I was once a moderator at Avalon and personally experienced the dark underside of it. Later was banned due to someone else's lies. So I'm really not interested in what you want to share. We don't know you and you don't know us. And just for the record the majority of us have been hanging out together in forum land for about 7 years now (5 years in the Mists), so there is a long history among us based on mutual respect and appreciation. If you want to throw rocks into the pond they will be fished out.

    I would also like to add that it is inappropriate to follow her over here from another forum and become a member to give your side of the story. Not okay.


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    Post  TRANCOSO Thu Apr 30, 2015 6:19 pm

    Nicely said, Carol.

    Isn't it odd that we are the only PA spin-off that has truly stuck to its core values and became a safe haven for those of other forums to share their dirty laundry?

    Makes you wonder, doesn't it?!
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    Post  Carol Thu Apr 30, 2015 7:08 pm

    I don't wonder Lord Trancoso. The creme de la creme were the core members who migrated to Mists because they wanted a safe haven to carry out their mission of gathering in awareness and disseminating the wisdom knowledge Hadriel they carried within them for "all" to benefit from.


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    Post  Pris Thu Apr 30, 2015 7:58 pm

    Carol wrote:Nice thread titles Pris. It would be nice if you share those threads here. As for the labeling.. is that person a licensed psychotherapist such as myself? If he were he would know what he did is a no-no in the mental health profession.

    It's good that you can set the record strait here for those who are interested to know the facts. As for the label of oppositional-defiant disorder (it would really be oppositional-defiant personality disorder if true), sometimes this is a good thing. Especially when fighting against injustice and standing up for what is right. So best to let the label slide while continuing to stand up for yourself and putting out your unique individual perspective. It's welcome here.

    As for Aragorn.. sometimes folks tend to get caught up in ego and their own sense of self-importance, assuming they are contributing something of value when offering their opinion about someone else, when in reality no one else really cares. Ergo, ego. Tsk, tsk. Nutbar

    Thank you for you thoughts on this, Carol. :)

    Thanks, I've noticed that 'disorder' labels seem to be foisted often onto people when they 'speak their minds'.


    For those who may be interested, the excerpt came from post #6 in the thread entitled, 'TOT My Experience'.  It was posted April 26, 2015, in The One Truth forum.


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    Post  Pris Thu Apr 30, 2015 8:35 pm

    Yes, Carol, thanks!  I can post my threads here in The Mists of Avalon -- when I get some time lol!  Right now, I'm rather busy still just keeping up with my inbox these days. :)
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    Post  Pris Thu Apr 30, 2015 8:48 pm

    Carol wrote:truth (Aragorn?):

    This is a small international forum with readers from all around the globe. They come on a daily basis primarily for information. We're not that much of a chatty group. The discussions we have are for the most part about that information that is posted. Personally I don't see the need for you to post anything about Pris. She came here like many of us did.. as someone who was banned from another forum to the Mists. Hence our name. Our number one rule is mutual respect. Pris is doing something many of us did when we were banned. Just sharing what happened to her. It's a safe space for her here for however she wishes to remain - as long as she follows the rules. There are two.

    You just became a member today to give your side of what? You want to chat about a new member here? What value is that as that is not what we do, unless it's a compliment or recognize another member's effort with the info they share or what they share about themselves.

    I will add that I was once a moderator at Avalon and personally experienced the dark underside of it. Later was banned due to someone else's lies. So I'm really not interested in what you want to share. We don't know you and you don't know us. And just for the record the majority of us have been hanging out together in forum land for about 7 years now (5 years in the Mists), so there is a long history among us based on mutual respect and appreciation. If you want to throw rocks into the pond they will be fished out.

    I would also like to add that it is inappropriate to follow her over here from another forum and become a member to give your side of the story. Not okay.

    Thank you, Carol. I am grateful to you, and I feel honoured to be here.
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    Post  NANUXII Thu Apr 30, 2015 11:57 pm

    Ello Ello !   Pris ,


    hi there peeps , im the guy NANUXII that was banned from TOT as well. I was on there the same time as Pris and experienced pretty much the same tratment there as she did as well as some 60 + members that have left over the last 2 months.

    I was also subsequently accused of hacking their forum as well by the Founder. his name is " The One " and before i go into any back ground id like to examine the motivations behind someone claiming this title and how that is poignant to his motivations and behaviour towards his staff and members.

    What is the psychology behind that name ? " The One " one may postulate a very grand self image ? " The One " perhaps even a God ? God is infalable is he not ? and in order to maintain the God image he must not be seen to be falable. Hence why he cannot take any type of constructive criticism.

    I think TOT and its founder , in particular the founder, has always been blaming its members for its short falls. But the problems on TOT are continuous , they havennt changed with all the re in carnations of members and staff ... so if the problem still remains then what is at the core of the problems ? " The One "

    its founder is the problem, he is the one creating the un fair situations foist upon its members and staff and then expects people to just take it without wanting to express them selves, and you cant do that there .. if you debate anything against the Founder , " The One " you are erased, banned and subsequently accused of things that are quite literally impossible to prove.

    I was blamed for splitting up the mod and admin team ... but i dint do anything , his un fair tratment of me was. These people , who are really good folk, made up their own minds based on the behaviour of " The One " hence why so many of his long standing and intelligent members have left. Just in the last week over 40 members have unsubscribed ...

    And to " The One " in his little cloud of God fluff and a half a lager .. its all them and not him .. yes im in falable , I Am The One ! and all you lot are wrong and just to prove it ill have the last say and close the thread and then ban you so you dont have a voice.

    This is a Dictatorship, and The One is Benito Mussoloni. : 0)

    I feel for the people on TOT because he is creating a community of sheeple , to blindly follow his program cos he owns the place.. he is the God .. he is
    " The ONE " This is an ego maniac of the first magnitude.

    Having said all that , im not upset , actually i find his behaviour amusing .. he has , just liek he did to Pris , made me into a Martyr and look like a total Bad Ass as well.. so thanks for the ships and giggles

    The majority of people there are great , lots of fun and heaps to talk about but like any forum , the culture that is being created there will stifle free speach and create nothing but Un Truths .. the complete opposite of its name sake.

    How can you have truth when you wont allow people to speak openly and freely ? you cant.

    Ego , Self Edification , Pride ... all marks of a dictator ,, zing heil !


    Love and Hugs

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    Post  TRANCOSO Fri May 01, 2015 2:10 am

    NANUXII wrote:Ello Ello !   Pris ,


    hugs

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    If you had any doubts about this place, take a look at the threads in 'On the Drama' http://www.themistsofavalon.net/f47-oh-the-drama and you will see that freedom of speech is just what's it supposed to be
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    Post  NANUXII Fri May 01, 2015 2:35 am

    TRANCOSO wrote:
    NANUXII wrote:Ello Ello !   Pris ,


    hugs

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    If you had any doubts about this place, take a look at the threads in 'On the Drama' http://www.themistsofavalon.net/f47-oh-the-drama and you will see that freedom of speech is just what's it supposed to be

    Hello Trancoso , i appreciate the welcome : 0)

    long live freedom of speech.

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    Post  TRANCOSO Fri May 01, 2015 3:19 am

    NANUXII wrote:long live freedom of speech.

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    Indeed, long live freedom of speech!

    Sweet, kind and lethal.

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    Post  Pris Fri May 01, 2015 4:00 am

    NANUXII wrote:Ello Ello !   Pris ,


    hi there peeps , im the guy NANUXII  that was banned from TOT as well. I was on there the same time as Pris and experienced pretty much the same tratment there as she did as well as some 60 + members that have left over the last 2 months.

    I was also subsequently accused of hacking their forum as well by the Founder. his name is " The One "   and before i go into any back ground id like to examine the motivations behind someone claiming this title and how that is poignant to his motivations and behaviour towards his staff and members.

    What is the psychology behind that name ?  " The One "  one may postulate a very grand self image ?  " The One "  perhaps even a God ?  God is infalable is he not ? and in order to maintain the God image he must not be seen to be falable. Hence why he cannot take any type of constructive criticism.

    I think TOT and its founder , in particular the founder, has always been blaming its members for its short falls. But the problems on TOT are continuous , they havennt changed with all the re in carnations of members and staff ... so if the problem still remains then what is at the core of the problems ?    " The One "

    its founder is the problem, he is the one creating the un fair situations foist upon its members and staff and then expects people to just take it without wanting to express them selves, and you cant do that there .. if you debate anything against the Founder , " The One "  you are erased, banned and subsequently accused of things that are quite literally impossible to prove.

    I was blamed for splitting up the mod and admin team ... but i dint do anything , his un fair tratment of me was. These people , who are really good folk, made up their own minds based on the behaviour of " The One "  hence why so many of his long standing and intelligent members have left. Just in the last week over 40 members have unsubscribed ...

    And to " The One " in his little cloud of God fluff and a half a lager .. its all them and not him .. yes im in falable , I Am The One !  and all you lot are wrong and just to prove it ill have the last say and close the thread and then ban you so you dont have a voice.

    This is a Dictatorship, and The One is Benito Mussoloni. : 0)

    I feel for the people on TOT because he is creating a community of sheeple , to blindly follow his program cos he owns the place.. he is the God .. he is
    " The ONE "  This is an ego maniac of the first magnitude.

    Having said all that , im not upset , actually i find his behaviour amusing .. he has , just liek he did to Pris , made me into a Martyr and look like a total Bad Ass as well.. so thanks for the ships and giggles

    The majority of people there are great , lots of fun and heaps to talk about but like any forum , the culture that is being created there will stifle free speach and create nothing but Un Truths .. the complete opposite of its name sake.

    How can you have truth when you wont allow people to speak openly and freely ?  you cant.

    Ego , Self Edification , Pride ... all marks of a dictator ,, zing heil !  


    Love and Hugs

    Naniu



    Hellooo, Naniu! Big Grin 2

    It's been awhile since we talked -- what a surprise seeing you here!  Great post, by the way.  I really couldn't have said it any better.  

    By the way, did you know that you and I are, apparently, part of a crime syndicate*?  Here's another excerpt from that same post from Aragorn:

    Do you guys think that this is all acceptable? Do you think that this is really good for the forum? Do you think you're being so enlightened when playing these childish ego games? Well, here's some news for you. Pris is now a moderator at that new forum that she, Anarp, NANUXII and whoever else have created, so Pris will now learn what it means to be a moderator, and we'll see how long it takes before she realizes that you have to either start moderating and deleting posts, or else let go of your forum and let it become a jungle.

    Where does he come up with this stuff?

    For the record, I started the whole thing on my own with no help.  I didn't even plan it in advance other than coming up with the idea that same morning when I woke up.  Although many people have come and helped me after the fact, I take full responsibility for what I did.

    Also, the Mental Floss 2 forum already existed for some time prior to me showing up.


    * Please note: I am making a joke.


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    Post  TRANCOSO Fri May 01, 2015 4:01 am

    NANUXII wrote:How can you have truth when you wont allow people to speak openly and freely ?  you cant.

    Naniu

    Let people speak openly and freely and criticize anything and everything they want, and pretty soon they'll get bored and loose their appetite.

    The moment you start to moderate opinions and close threads, the sh#t hits the fan.

    It's simple as that, but apparently very hard to understand.
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    Post  NANUXII Fri May 01, 2015 5:18 am

    A crime Syndicate ?   lol  and what are we stealing ?  

    if you make an accusation like being a crime syndicate at least show some evidence, or motive, theres been nothing of the sort. So it seems TOT is used to saying what ot wants without ever showing any proof, or being accountable because the moment you try to defend your self you are muzzled.

    Can you or anyone tell me how in blazes are you going to track a tor browser ?   the NSA would have trouble doing it let alone " The One "  

    so how can you point the finger ?  what does this say about The One , who creates problems , and manufactures evidence.. he has at least 6 different membershps on there posting as this person and that .. this is the type of person behind TOT ... His latest membership he named after his daughter .. Sophia .. what a creep



    just for clarity , this is the IP addrsess he says did the DDOS attack on his site , 77.247.181.165  

    i would love for anyone thats has the know how , to try and track this IP and then identify the owner ?  

    id love to see if its actually possible.

    Hugs

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    Post  TRANCOSO Fri May 01, 2015 5:34 am

    NANUXII wrote:A crime Syndicate ?   lol  and what are we stealing ?  

    if you make an accusation like being a crime syndicate at least show some evidence, or motive, theres been nothing of the sort. So it seems TOT is used to saying what ot wants without ever showing any proof, or being accountable because the moment you try to defend your self you are muzzled.

    Can you or anyone tell me how in blazes are you going to track a tor browser ?   the NSA would have trouble doing it let alone " The One "  

    so how can you point the finger ?  what does this say about The One , who creates problems , and manufactures evidence.. he has at least 6 different membershps on there posting as this person and that .. this is the type of person behing TOT ... His latest membership he named after his daughter .. Sophia .. what a creep



    just for clarity , this is the IP addrsess he says did the DDOS attack on his site , 77.247.181.165  

    i would love for anyone thats has the know how , to try and track this IP and then identify the owner ?  

    id love to see if its actually possible.

    Hugs

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    Nanu, can you at least quote or clarify what you're talking about so we can all enjoy your post?

    I for one are curious what you mean with 'A crime Syndicate'.

    I know I've read it somewhere but...



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    Post  Pris Fri May 01, 2015 5:40 am

    NANUXII wrote:A crime Syndicate ?   lol  and what are we stealing ?  

    if you make an accusation like being a crime syndicate at least show some evidence, or motive, theres been nothing of the sort. So it seems TOT is used to saying what ot wants without ever showing any proof, or being accountable because the moment you try to defend your self you are muzzled.

    Can you or anyone tell me how in blazes are you going to track a tor browser ?   the NSA would have trouble doing it let alone " The One "  

    so how can you point the finger ?  what does this say about The One , who creates problems , and manufactures evidence.. he has at least 6 different membershps on there posting as this person and that .. this is the type of person behind TOT ... His latest membership he named after his daughter .. Sophia .. what a creep



    just for clarity , this is the IP addrsess he says did the DDOS attack on his site , 77.247.181.165  

    i would love for anyone thats has the know how , to try and track this IP and then identify the owner ?  

    id love to see if its actually possible.

    Hugs

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    No, no, no... I was making a joke.


    crime syndicate

       n.
       a loose affiliation of gangsters in charge of organized criminal activities


    Apparently, we're in on something nefarious we planned together, so I suggested we're in a crime syndicate. Ha ha ha. tongue
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    Post  truth Fri May 01, 2015 6:23 am

    NANUXII wrote:Ello Ello !   Pris ,


    hi there peeps , im the guy NANUXII  that was banned from TOT as well. I was on there the same time as Pris and experienced pretty much the same tratment there as she did as well as some 60 + members that have left over the last 2 months.

    I was also subsequently accused of hacking their forum as well by the Founder. his name is " The One "   and before i go into any back ground id like to examine the motivations behind someone claiming this title and how that is poignant to his motivations and behaviour towards his staff and members.

    What is the psychology behind that name ?  " The One "  one may postulate a very grand self image ?  " The One "  perhaps even a God ?  God is infalable is he not ? and in order to maintain the God image he must not be seen to be falable. Hence why he cannot take any type of constructive criticism.

    I think TOT and its founder , in particular the founder, has always been blaming its members for its short falls. But the problems on TOT are continuous , they havennt changed with all the re in carnations of members and staff ... so if the problem still remains then what is at the core of the problems ?    " The One "

    its founder is the problem, he is the one creating the un fair situations foist upon its members and staff and then expects people to just take it without wanting to express them selves, and you cant do that there .. if you debate anything against the Founder , " The One "  you are erased, banned and subsequently accused of things that are quite literally impossible to prove.

    I was blamed for splitting up the mod and admin team ... but i dint do anything , his un fair tratment of me was. These people , who are really good folk, made up their own minds based on the behaviour of " The One "  hence why so many of his long standing and intelligent members have left. Just in the last week over 40 members have unsubscribed ...

    And to " The One " in his little cloud of God fluff and a half a lager .. its all them and not him .. yes im in falable , I Am The One !  and all you lot are wrong and just to prove it ill have the last say and close the thread and then ban you so you dont have a voice.

    This is a Dictatorship, and The One is Benito Mussoloni. : 0)

    I feel for the people on TOT because he is creating a community of sheeple , to blindly follow his program cos he owns the place.. he is the God .. he is
    " The ONE "  This is an ego maniac of the first magnitude.

    Having said all that , im not upset , actually i find his behaviour amusing .. he has , just liek he did to Pris , made me into a Martyr and look like a total Bad Ass as well.. so thanks for the ships and giggles

    The majority of people there are great , lots of fun and heaps to talk about but like any forum , the culture that is being created there will stifle free speach and create nothing but Un Truths .. the complete opposite of its name sake.

    How can you have truth when you wont allow people to speak openly and freely ?  you cant.

    Ego , Self Edification , Pride ... all marks of a dictator ,, zing heil !  


    Love and Hugs

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    Post  TRANCOSO Fri May 01, 2015 6:26 am

    Pris wrote: Here's another excerpt from that same post from Aragorn:

    ... so Pris will now learn what it means to be a moderator, and we'll see how long it takes before she realizes that you have to either start moderating and deleting posts, or else let go of your forum and let it become a jungle.
    I'd rather choose for the 'jungle' option than getting rid of all the core members and end up with a bunch of nitwits.

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    Post  TRANCOSO Fri May 01, 2015 6:33 am

    truth wrote:TRANSPARENCY IN THE ONE TRUTH FORUM - Page 3 Rottenecards_54901051_mhh9n32xs8

    That's all you can add to this debate?

    What a sad reply.
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    Post  NANUXII Fri May 01, 2015 6:36 am

    as you can see how much it hurts The One to have someone speak about him and be powerless to do anything , on here is a pleb ..

    The One Pleb

    it gives me great joy to know he is fuming ... lol you see The One is hugely upset bu the Truth , he dispises it , when someone talks their opinion and it invoves him he starts scratching like a cat .. meow


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    Post  truth Fri May 01, 2015 6:40 am

    NANUXII wrote:as you can see how much it hurts The One to have someone speak about him and be powerless to do anything , on here is a pleb ..

    The One Pleb

    it gives me great joy to know he is fuming ... lol you see The One is hugely upset bu the Truth , he dispises it , when someone talks their opinion and it invoves him he starts scratching like a cat .. meow


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    Hello everybody!
    How would you translate the expression "taking the piss" in Italian?
    Many thanks

    Have a good day!

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    Post  TRANCOSO Fri May 01, 2015 6:47 am

    NANUXII wrote:as you can see how much it hurts The One to have someone speak about him and be powerless to do anything , on here is a pleb ..

    The One Pleb

    it gives me great joy to know he is fuming ... lol you see The One is hugely upset bu the Truth , he dispises it , when someone talks their opinion and it invoves him he starts scratching like a cat .. meow


    The One Meow

    Not much of a reply either, Nanu.

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    Post  NANUXII Fri May 01, 2015 6:50 am




    this is a very fitting video to describe The One , he is a cluless dictator lol

    and all the people he executed are still alive and well

    pleb
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    Post  NANUXII Fri May 01, 2015 6:52 am

    TRANCOSO wrote:
    NANUXII wrote:as you can see how much it hurts The One to have someone speak about him and be powerless to do anything , on here is a pleb ..

    The One Pleb

    it gives me great joy to know he is fuming ... lol you see The One is hugely upset bu the Truth , he dispises it , when someone talks their opinion and it invoves him he starts scratching like a cat .. meow


    The One Meow

    Not much of a reply either, Nanu.


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    Post  TRANCOSO Fri May 01, 2015 6:54 am

    truth wrote:
    h-WPexVEujg

    Hello everybody!
    How would you translate the expression "taking the piss" in Italian?
    Many thanks

    Have a good day!

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    Truth, you're very cheap.
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    Post  B.B.Baghor Fri May 01, 2015 6:58 am

    TRANCOSO wrote:
    NANUXII wrote:How can you have truth when you wont allow people to speak openly and freely ? you cant.

    Naniu

    Let people speak openly and freely and criticize anything and everything they want, and pretty soon they'll get bored and loose their appetite.

    The moment you start to moderate opinions and close threads, the sh#t hits the fan.

    It's simple as that, but apparently very hard to understand.

    Trancoso's words "It's simple as that, but apparantly very hard to understand" or in Dutch "Het is simpel-weg eenvoudig,
    maar blijkbaar heel moeilijk te begrijpen".

    To me, Trancoso, those couple of words are saying very much, for it's profound in that every word of it goes for all of us.
    Wherever we stand. I'm fine with anyone and anything being discussed and shared, as long as it's in the company of respect
    and self-reflection. I don't mean perfection in never expressing a fierce opinion or feeling, as a law, that kind of self-moderating
    works stifling, in that way, as I perceive it. Ahem.... Mother Superior is experienced in that and knows of those kind of vows Cheerful

    I like a Tai Chi approach in general and to boundless negative posting, for that happens in company of motion on many levels.
    It's like the nature of water, it always flows and finds its ways. When water represents emotions it's the awareness of it that
    determines the flow of it and its destination.  Water  To me, a Tai Chi approach doesn't mean being passive in "doing nothing".
    That's a significant difference with "going with the flow" in awareness, the game of pushing and pulling, learning to relate.

    As I see it, we're all free to share an opinion, being older or newer members here. In age as well as in length of membership.
    I'm not very experienced in following or being active in the discussions that went wrong and the drama that lead to s**t
    hitting the fan in all kind of ways.  UhOh that some of you here are familiar with. The virtual nature of all web-fora, with an
    apparent ignorance to responsibility and the comfort of invisibility, plays a part in this, I think. I've shared my views on that Luke

    I'm making efforts to be aware of how I feel about words shared in the virtual way and separate my feelings from its content
    and sender. When I try to give words to what is aroused in me, I try to see what it is why I feel the way I do and not convey
    the thoughts that are popping up as a result from it, immediately. I see a boundless expressing of feelings, in whatever negative
    e-motion, as a perpetual triggering of the same and a never-ever-getting-there discussion, for the sake of holding it in existence,
    as I perceive it. It's one way of releasing emotions that is "easy come..... easy go..... "Those kind of going in circles is something
    I feel can be decided on as a "no go" and stopped, when they are present, objectively. Possibly, of course, discussed with creators.

    To me, those negative circling discussions affect the Forum atmosphere and attract more of the same. Don't know how you see
    this, I'm learning and finding my own private challenges in how to best create rules of conduct in the Mists of Avalon Forum and
    how I sense in what way we all can find goodies and foodies for thought. I'm struggling a bit now, with the need to have answers
    to questions that are better left open and lived with through my days and not worried about. I'm in a completion of some sort,
    leaving old grounds entering new. At times it feels like when making a leap and finding myself hanging in mid-air, unsure of the
    ground beneath my feet, when landing. Earth

    It's the simplest of truths that my situation, is about letting go of control and be in trust. Which is shown as the best medicine  sunny  
    to me, in the outside world, be it in Holland or in the UK.  In that same sense, our need for simplicity and trust, combined with a
    huge amount of change happening on many levels in the world at large too, I look forward to discussions, efforts-in-getting-some-
    where and a sense of finding support and more understanding, when in need for it, welcoming the company of humor.  Lolerz and

    Lawless

    To me, when humor is absent, it's a sign of almost "otherworldly" presence alien  and a lack of common sense that is connected to
    planet Earth conditions. To me, humor is the way to create bridges between the spiritual part of our being and our human body with
    our senses awake, trying to make chocolate of life with its contradictions and open agenda, in essence. Expressions of sharing in being
    human and accepting that in light  I love you edness. When that is missing, it's not calling me to go into very far. By no means I ignore
    compassion and support of others that are serious due to a troubled heart or hurting, in spirit or body.

    To me, a humorless discussion lacks vitality, missing a chance to evolve for the better or even dissolve. That missing of vitality might
    be the very thing, Trancoso, that creates your earlier mentioned "boredom and a loss of appetite" Wink Thanks for that insight of  UhOh
    I've learned something today Hugs

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