United States AI Solar System (2)

orthodoxymoron wrote:

Over the past nine years, there have been several series and movies (including Jupiter Ascending) which were brilliant conceptualizations (with mediocre plots)!! It's almost as if they were purposely botched!! I guess that's why I post on The Mists of Avalon -- incorporating bits and pieces of this and that (including Jupiter Ascending). On the subject of "Harvest" -- if you're really ambitious and adventurous -- check out "The Harvest Principle" by the late theologian Herbert Douglas -- and pages 62-69 in "Christ's Object Lessons" by Ellen White. Sorry to keep bringing that sort of thing up -- but it's part of who I am (for better or worse, I know not). Consider watching Jupiter Ascending -- Guardians of the Galaxy -- and Ex Machina -- side by side -- over and over. What if the Human-Race was Illegally-Created by Jupiter Jones?? What if Jupiter Jones was exiled (and presumed eternally-dead) while humanity matured?? What if humanity did better than expected -- while continuing to exist under enslavement and extenuating-circumstances?? What if Jupiter Jones has unexpectedly reappeared -- much to the consternation of the Reigning-Queen?? What if the existence of Humanity and Jupiter Jones threatens the traditional governance, administration, and stability of the universe??!! This thing might be nastier and more-complex than we can possibly imagine. Consider the Jupiter-Moses sculpture in the Vatican. What if Jupiter Jones secretly worked behind the scenes throughout history to nurture and preserve the Infant Human-Race?? What if Isis = Azazel = Jupiter Jones?? What if Jupiter Jones was the "Lamb slain from the Foundation of the World"??

What if Jupiter Jones had a lot to do with Job through Daniel?? I keep thinking this whole mess we're in is some sort of a test. Perhaps Jupiter Jones was some aspect of the Reigning Queen!! Perhaps they were two sides of the same coin!! I keep receiving glimpses of the truth -- but I can't put it all together -- and perhaps that's just as well. Consider what Dr. A. Graham Maxwell says in the following video (at 1 hour, 20 minutes) concerning God being ready to start-over regarding the existence of humanity -- rather than change the governance-modality of the universe. A Significant Individual of Interest told me that we needed to start-over with Planet-Earth. No Joke. Once again, it's very difficult to determine what's really going on. I think the Bible is a test -- and I keep wondering if 99% of humanity might be getting it wrong??!! What might the consequences be for getting it wrong?? Are ignorance and sincerity valid excuses for not getting it right?? What if 99% of those presently within this solar system rebelled against God in or around the Garden of Eden thousands of years ago?? Once again, I'm going to try to say less and less as I learn more and more. I get the feeling that 99% of humanity have already made their choices concerning the most important decisions imaginable. Perhaps probation has closed. What if probation closed thousands of years ago?? What if those who were loyal to God -- left Earth thousands of years ago?? If so -- what will humanity say when they see what those who were loyal to God got??

I just remembered something relative to this thread. When I spoke with astronaut Dr. Edgar Mitchell at a Whole Life Expo -- we discussed Life After Death -- and Dr. Mitchell spoke of the "Survival of Information" rather than the "Survival of the Soul"!! That was around 1990 -- but that language sounded a lot like that used in the last video below!! I could say more -- but I'd rather not. Not now.

Eartheart wrote:

  Whata deceptive thread, like some ghost
bound my shoelaces into the eternal knot, or a wall of beercases...  

So full compassion for Corey and his astral-psyfi, and that here in the mists,
after all the revelation and still every week those datapackets for the bin...
I thought we help those majestic abused and those counterparts from the eastblock - which we havened talked clearly about yet (sleepercells mmm)...

But see them (those video props) all in here, probability is them shortsighted/feartalked/agended NABS turning in their gnashing teeth dance and dementing
that wrong/tomuch disCERN-ment (who benefitted this whole discerning BS
on our conciousness awakening anyhow - say3letters?!?)

I am happy those pseudointels dont resonate at all:::  

Dr. Oxy, the remark of the survival of data/info/lifetraces deserves more
thoughts, especialy with that remark of the jesuit teachings of the soul as
implant of satanic/draconian/rep ect. sourcing or overwritten history...
But so many nicenicenice kids work for their soul,soulgroup,soulstars and
the soulmusic is funq for shure... Nobody cant decide and there is the faith
healing expierience, which is a little harvest too...
Be the lifetree, be the fruit of creation and be the harvestgirl too...  

orthodoxymoron wrote:I think I might know who you are, Eartheart -- and I think I might know why you write as you do -- but I probably only understand 50% of your posts. I've been waiting for years for a government-guy to knock on my front-door with a briefcase chained to his wrist -- containing the Real-Story (with zero bullshit) -- and I'll probably be waiting for the rest of my life (however brief that may be) -- or at least until Hell freezes-over. BTW -- have you seen the Sun lately?? What Would Charles Hapgood and Douglas Vogt Say??? Immediately after I made this post -- my computer shut-down with a "Watchdog-Violation"!! Can't We All Just Get Along??

B.B.Baghor wrote:Ortho's words:"Thank-you for your detailed response, B.B. I often just read the posts of others, without responding directly, other than saying "thank-you". I am often inspired to make a comment which might seem somewhat unrelated and non-responsive."

I'm happy to hear more from you than just "thank you" ortho, even if it may be unrelated and non-responsive. I prefer to let it come out
and handle its accuracy or relevance in the moment, telling each other while sharing views and news. My style of posting isn't always
popular and glamorous and often takes some effort and time. I'm happy to receive a response on that, just like what lately happened,
when Pris responded to a knee-deep philosophical and lengthy post of mine, by telling me she was without a map going through it.
That's very clear. And useful too as a reflection, so that I'm stopped in my tracks and think for a moment, with this feedback being offered.

I'm not afraid of stumbling or being an optimistic tourist-guide in a forest, with physical agility, happily lunch-munching in a tree-home
high above the ground, with the group below in confusion, none of them making up their minds. Never realizing that none of them is ready
to climb the rope ladder, for not seeing it as a means to be successfull. It doesn't improve the situation when I keep yelling at them
"Just climb the ladder, it's easy!" from my point of view, pun intended. I've got to climb down and see how the situation can be dealt with,
level with the group and choose to have lunch on a blanket spread on the forest floor and have a break: easy does it

As for reading the Bible, before or after that lunch...  for me there's no value in studying the Bible much. The only text in it, that I find
beautiful is 1 Corinthean verse 13, on love. I'm planning to read the Nag Hammadhi scrolls text but for now I rather climb trees in this
thriving Somerset county.  

orthodoxymoron wrote:Thank-you B.B. I've become rather wary in identifying and defining "God" -- "Christ" -- "Holy-Spirit" -- "Lucifer" -- "Satan" -- "Azazel" -- et al. I include the Bible in my posting and studies because it's a significant part of the puzzle and history -- regardless of whether I (or anyone else) like it or not -- and I often do NOT like it. It seems to be a ticking time-bomb which is existence-threatening. Anyway -- here is a possible "Study and Wish" List for my Next-Life (if I even have one):

1. Genesis and Deuteronomy (KJV).
2. Job through Daniel (KJV).
3. Luke through Romans (KJV).
4. Hebrews and James (KJV).
5. Prophets and Kings (E.G. White).
6. The Desire of Ages (E.G. White).
7. The 1928 Book of Common Prayer.
8. The Traditional Latin Mass.
9. Sacred Classical Music.
10. Gothic Cathedral Architecture.
11. The Federalist Papers and U.S. Constitution.
12. The Wall Street Journal and The New York Times.
13. Astronomy and Law Textbooks.
14. Project Avalon and The Mists of Avalon.
15. Office/Apartments in Rome, London, and New York City.
16. Top of the Line Laptop-Computers.
17. Absolute Encrypted-Satellite InterPlaNet Access.
18. Absolute Alphabet-Agency Protection and Cooperation.

But honestly -- all of this makes me feel really sick and small. This is really a list for others. It's too late for me. I'm too old, lazy, crazy, and stupid. Still -- I think it would be cool to get paid to deal with all of the above full-time. It's fun to think about -- but the reality would probably be a nightmare. Siriusly.

B.B.Baghor wrote:I feel I should return a "Thank you" to you Ortho" and than ask as an introduction to this post "Can we discuss the impact of the Bible and God in whose name this book is written and discuss the nature of God and how it's created or experienced by an old humanity?"

I need to say in advance that I'm discerning religion from a belief-system in a church institute, a man made creation only. And my jokes
on Biblical and religious affairs aren't meant to offend anybody's religious belief here. It's a necessary ingredient to enter and endure a
discussion on this subject, for me. To me, many people have become far to serious in church institutes, sucking the life blood from it
by cold-hearted-ness and hot heads. It's maybe childish, my jokes, please tell me if you feel it's not welcomed. I'm catching up with my
past. I was the first to run into a ditch, catching frogs and dragonflies, splashing in the mud with bare feet, after Sunday service.
My white socks and black shining shoes were carefully watched over by me, so that they remained clean of sins

I can understand Ortho, why you call the Bible a "significant part of the puzzle and of history". To me that book may have been a genuine
report of events and keys to and processes of evolution in consciousness, in a distant past. The early Bible books may have been from a
time where life wasn't lived in duality consciousness. I can imagine that life was experienced in a different way long ago, compared to how
we experience it now. It's evident in its place on the counting of time, isn't it? Aren't we alive amidst a myriad of manifestations in some
form or another? With a virtual world as a welcome escape, a "safe haven"? With overwhelming choices, hard to handle for young people
who start their journey in life? There are clear headed ones among them for sure.

I think many of us alive now are veterans and challenged warriors, having tried out things and found that we explored, celebrated and
denied our human heart's desire and the explorations of our nature, creating life, beauty, grace, peace, drama and trauma. All by free will.
At some point in all of that, I think the Bible has become a written expression of how human beings made THEIR Church Institute the One
and Only Church Institute. A mental matter of fact "I tell YOU what to DO" the start of yielding power and where use and abuse of that
power is on the menu of that old pub called "Purgatory", with a delightful but deceptive home made cider.

During the year 2009 I wasn't very active in discussions at the P.A. forum. I've read the start of that P.A. Forum thread of yours
and found some interesting parts in 2 of your posts in this link: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=18223&highlight=orthodoxymoron+threads

Ortho's words in Post 1:

"Is Amen Ra not only the ancient Egyptian God...but also the God of the Bible? Is Amen Ra and the Dog-Star Sirius at the center of everything?
Is Sirius the star the wise-men followed? Is Sirius the illumination behind the All Seeing Eye at the top of the pyramid? We may not be dealing with
the Creator God of the Universe...but rather with imperfect deities...who are a mixture of good and evil...sanity and insanity. Could a complete understanding of all of the above become the foundation of a New Non-Theistic Theology? I know this is a supreme oxymoron...but I think that
we can and should have a New Theology which does not have an all powerful single God. The first and last commandment should
be 'Thou Shalt Have No Gods'...because power corrupts...and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Having said that...we still need divine principles and concepts...which lift us higher. This is a more delicate operation than brain surgery. How do we tell the world the real truth...without destroying civilization?"

Really? How do we tell the world the real truth... without destroying civilization? Who's speaking here? Who can tell? Why not be a way-shower?
The part in red is true to me, under the condition when I declare God as a being in existence outside of me. As a figure of authority having a say
in who and what I am, should be... and even.... why and to whom! To me, that's a concept that may have been created as, or by, a mind-program:
duality consciousness.

The story of the Garden of Eden is an example of that, to me. Eve felt herself attracted to a bite from the apple of the "tree of good and evil" and
she shared the apple with Adam. Suddenly, they became awkwardly self-conscious. "Oops.... we've got no clothes on" said Eve to Adam. And before going to H&M they took a couple of fig-leaves and covered the most shameful parts of their bodies. "Out! Out!" screamed the big angel with a sword.
I see many Bible stories as allegories of processes that may take a long time to complete. Timeless and encoded teachings? Is it about how we treat
our physical bodies with awareness of their value as treasure chest with gold? Where's the key?

The concept of duality points at the existence of a "here" and a "there" at a power outside of oneself, that is given the right to proclaim something
as being okay or not okay, good or bad, right or wrong. That's one side of a coin that has the word "separation" on its other side. The two are a
dual, see what I mean? "I am here and all others are there.... says our reptilian brain. I believe that the bridge between the left and right hemisphere
of our brain holds the secret of dissolving that sense of separation.

One of the most intriguing questions that is at present in my mind is "What has been the original plan when life began on this planet and what instruments are involved for the fulfillment of the purpose of human beings with an eternal spirit, through eons of time until the present day?"
Sometimes I chew on this idea: that the bite in the apple was intentionally orchestrated, so that human beings were in a duality consciousness,
creating all kinds of emotional states and ideas of the mind, mixing them into a thick broth and putting a label on it with a conclusion, a dogma or a definition. As an anchor for the ego and the physical body, to create a sense of security, a sense of belonging when in resonance with others around.

Voila... there you have it, people created fortifications to protect their lifestyle and material wealth. Like attracts like.... or is forced to look alike and with safety in numbers and the gift of "The Word" soon some "wise" men began to yield power and learned by experience how to use and abuse power. Was this the creation of priesthood? I see it like this that at the start of "life on the land" the farmer and shepherd were in power over their own lives and at peace with their tribe members. While combining the work of their hands and heads in unison, in a balance and in touch with the beauty and ugliness of living, with all conditions in life, with the soil and the cattle's manure, growing crops. The laws of nature may have appeared as deities to them or as invisible beings of nature, respected in the offering of tobacco in exchange for a gift of nature, by the North American Indians.

Other human beings, from all over the world, even within religious circles, may have an experience of all life's expressions as being God, in God and
from God. Who knows, we may desperately run for Shelter (God) while we are already Home (Heaven). I hold that as the strongest possibility,
expressed in the saying "Be still and know I AM" I AM there, I move away from it and return to it, again and again, in a non linear way.

Ortho's words in Post 7:

"I just want our world to move beyond the hocus-pocus and mumbo-jumbo. I want this world (and solar system) to be governed by Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom...as a non-theocratic union of spirituality and state. Perhaps at some point...Ra might even say Amen to that!
Come to think of it...Ra might HAVE to say Amen to that...for this concept to become a reality. Hope springs eternal".

I think that's a very beautiful statement in green, Ortho. You may be closer to what you seek, than your mind tells you you are. But who am I
to tell you that? Make a knot in your handkerchief, to remind yourself of this statement, Ortho? It's also what I want, a world governed by Namaste.
When I believe (and at times I can sense it) God as present in all life's expressions, than that is the way out of that hocus-pocus and mumbo-jumbo,
for the simple reason that God = a creation in the name of love for us, definitions of God expressed in us, his offspring or dust-particles created by a
Big Bang: God's birth of self awareness. God, how he/we needed that! For where would we be if that hadn't happened? God = a creation in the name
of us for love.

The omnipresence of God aka The Source of Love or Love itself, to me, is equal to accepting who I am and who you are and all others are. In that
state all is good and nothing needs to be done to fix our lives. Healing may be present with surrender, which isn't a blissful state of non-doing, to me. It's a jump in the unknown wildness of life and trust in her support, giving love and receiving love. This reminds me of Beren's golden signature
"Love, love... and see what happens". It's all we need to do, in essence. Not so in our mind's eye though. From that union in love we arrive at Ra HAVING to say Amen to a once again... United States of the Solar System  

orthodoxymoron wrote:Thank-you B.B. What if this Universe is filled with Star-Wars?? What if God is the Most Powerful Warrior with the Most Powerful Space-Fleet?? What if the Bible is representative of the Management of the Defeated?? I honestly do NOT mean to be mean!! But what if this is REALITY?? What if a Solar System MUST be run as an Empire by a Sun-God?? What if a Sun-God is a Local Solar-System Administrator?? Again, I mean zero disrespect or rebelliousness. What REALLY troubles me is the nasty and violent History of the World. What troubles me somewhat less is how my Honest-Questions seem to be interpreted as Rebellious-Accusations. Some of you know exactly what I'm talking about. Is it IMPOSSIBLE to run a Solar System with Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom?? John Dominic Crossan has stated that one can have an Empire or a Republic -- but one cannot have both for long. He has also stated that one can have an Empire or a Democracy -- but one cannot have both for long. I perceive that we've been under a Roman-Empire for thousands of years -- long before there was a Roman Catholic Church -- and long before the Time of Jesus Christ. Babylon-Egypt seemed to be replaced by Greece-Rome -- possibly beginning sometime around the End of the Old-Testament Writings (around 400 BC). The fact that the Old-Testament is not thoroughly and honestly discussed in the New-Testament is highly-suspicious to me. Religion (in general) seems to be filled with dishonesty and rationalization. One seemingly can make the Bible say whatever they want it to say. What portions of the Bible apply ONLY to Jews?? What parts apply ONLY to Gentiles?? What sections apply equally to BOTH Jews and Gentiles?? Why don't we have a New-Bible which applies equally to EVERYONE?? Why don't we use Science-Textbooks which are 2,000 to 4,000 years-old?? The best Books of the Bible have remained highly profound and relevant. The worst Books of the Bible are unimaginably arbitrary, violent, and barbaric. I've gone round and round and round with the most wonderful Christians regarding the contradiction between "Thou Shalt Not Kill" and the "Endless Mass-Murder" in the Bible. They wish to defend BOTH!! I sometimes wonder if ALL Religions were started and nurtured by the Same Deities to control and exploit Humanity?! Once again, I'm not necessarily being mean and rebellious. I'm simply being HONEST. Remember that thing about "Thou Shalt Not Lie"?? Try being a Completely Open and Honest Priest or Politician!! Good-Luck!! BTW -- a United States of the Solar System would probably be a Minimalist and Benevolent Equal-Opportunity Theocratic-Republic!! I've set a tentative target-date of 2133 A.D. I'm looking at interesting Eschatological Dates of 2046 A.D. (Douglas Vogt) -- 2060 A.D. (Isaac Newton) -- and 2133 A.D. (Daniel and Silvestre). I'm just a Poor-Boy -- but I've joked about starting the Church of Orthodoxymoron of Latter-Day Luddites (for popularity, pleasure, power, and profit)!!

B.B.Baghor wrote:Reading your post, Ortho, mainly noticing the "What if's...?" I find that they're so quick to jump in that you've not (yet?) found the moment to respond to the part of my post where I'm pointing at the difference between a God present as a power outside of us and a God present  inside of us, part of us or us as part of God, all this as an omnipresent energy or source. An Alpha and an Omega present on the whole periphery of a circle, if you will. Can you see that to me it's paramount to our perception of being innocent poor Earthlings, anxious and suppressed? When we project God outside of us, in fear or in our own smallness, similar to Calimero's charming complains?

What if.... once upon a time... we convinced ourselves to believe that there's a ruling power outside of us?
What if.... we remain to this day in that paradigm, due to inherited deep fear and dna programming?
What if.... we stepped out of that paradigm and decide it's been enough?
What if.... that shift of consciousness is the key to creating a peaceful world?
What if.... pondering the past and future are just.... thoughts of a mind in need of anchors?
What if.... the least suitable place to find an anchor is the past or the future?
What if.... finding answers are the anchor that is so much missded?
What if.... the past and future are not real?
What if.... our capacity to create thoughts, is a bypassing of the place of truth within us?
What if.... all these questions are only my poor attempts to grasp the truth and understand my reality?
What if.... my post is an attempt to be creative in moving through that labyrinth of mind and look from different angles?
What if.... I imagine myself in a stillness without  "what if's...?" and allow my inner voice to present its "What if's?" to me?
What if.... such a thing started to happen in you? Would you be at a loss for words? Feel fearful? Feel relief?

Now I need to climb that other tree I found in the woods  

orthodoxymoron wrote:Thank-you B.B. I understand the "Personal-Power and Human-Potential" thing -- yet I continue to think "We the Peons" need a "God Outside of Ourselves." What if God needs a God??!! I keep portraying God in various rather mundane roles -- such as Astronaut -- Race-Car Driver -- Little-Girl -- Amadeus -- et al -- not to be Rebellious and Irreverent -- but (once again) to simply be Honest. I think we have a "Highly-Problematic Historical-God" (judging from the Bible -- History -- and the Church) -- but what if Humanity expelled the Real-Deal from Earth in the Garden of Eden thousands of years ago?? What if the Real-Deal is seemingly AWOL because We Didn't Want God???!! What if Humanity has been ruled from the shadows by the Anti-God??!! I honestly think I might've talked repeatedly with the Anti-God (or a representative of them) in more than one form. I was friendly and polite -- yet cool and non-committal. I might be mistaken and/or crazy -- yet this perception has been a visual-aid to my cosmic-conceptualizations. I am NOT possessed (just because I suddenly came out of my shell on the internet). I've been tormented by this madness throughout my life -- and it seems as if there shall be no peace or resolution. In fact -- the problems seem to be exponentially-multiplying -- with no end in sight. BTW -- shuttling between Loma Linda (Ellen G. White) and Garden Grove (Robert H. Schuller) for four-years was MOST enlightening. Also -- at that time -- I watched and listened-to Christian Television and Radio almost non-stop. I also did a lot of hiking in the San Bernardino Mountains -- agonizing over Life, the Universe, and Everything. Didn't Billy Graham and Alex Collier (separately) do something similar in that general area?? I can't quite remember. What Would Bill Bright Say?? I obviously came to very different conclusions -- and I basically shut-down and dropped-out. I've honestly never recovered -- and I honestly do NOT expect to recover for the remainder of This Present Incarnation. I hypothesize regarding Reincarnation -- but I'm not into Eastern-Religions. I'm just a Smorgasbord Completely-Ignorant Fool -- and Proud of It!!! One more thing. I honestly wish I had turned-out like Angela -- doing Eye-Surgery and performing Organ-Recitals at St. Mary's Cathedral and Notre Dame de Paris!!! Honestly!! Angela once gave me a very Cross-Look when I expressed passive-support for Praise-Songs and Contemporary Christian Music!!! What Would K.S. Bach Say?? What Would Fred Bock Say?? What Would Lloyd John Ogilvie Say?? I keep thinking about that scene in Constantine -- where Angela (the Detective) talks to David (the Priest) at The Theology Club -- while Gabriel and Constantine have a Fireside Chat!!! Did I lose a Spiritual-War OR did I Gain the Victory Internally??!! What Would Sun Tzu Say?? Kimo told me to fight on the inside (not on the outside). He also told me I might be surprised by how well I could improvise on the pipe-organ. He was right (on both counts) -- but I didn't discover that fact until decades later!! Honest!! Pipe Organ Encounter = Pure Orgone Energy = P.O.E. = Pure Organ Energy = Pipe Organ Energy?? What Would Sherry Shriner Say?? That J.S. Bach was a Demon-Fighter?? You might be surprised!! One More Thing. Has Anyone (besides me) Wondered What Luther Looked-Like Before and After the Diet of Worms??!! Do I Really Need to Explain??!!

Carol wrote:

‘If the internet goes down, half the planet will come to a standstill’
– preppers will be last ones standing

August 2015 – LONDON – These days the world is a scary place to live in. If there’s not an asteroid on its way to obliterate us or terrorists plotting our imminent downfall, there’s the dangers of giant online data hacks or complete economic collapse. But when the end does arrive, there are a few people who aren’t just able to cope with the apocalypse – they’ve been actively preparing for it. These people call themselves ‘preppers’ or ‘survivalists’ and they belong to a vast underground community. When the ATMs stop running or the internet goes down, they’ll be the ones that make it out alive.

“It’s a huge community, especially in the States. But in the UK it’s becoming more and more recognized,” explained Steve Hart, the man behind the UK’s top prepping website: ukpreppersguide.co.uk. “Prepping itself is just another form of insurance. People have life, car or pet insurance for the “what ifs” – this is just looking at a “what if” from a slightly different perspective. “What if a serious earthquake hits? Or a tsunami or a volcano or even a bio-terrorism attack,” said Steve, whose website racks up around 100,000 hits a month. Admittedly, those situations are a little unlikely – but 59-year-old Steve sets us straight pretty quickly. “What if the government starts acting up? That’s the number one fear among most preppers: economic collapse.”The next thing you know the whole world is plummeting down to a position you can’t get out of.”

“If anything to do with the internet goes down, half the planet will come to a standstill,” Steve told Mirror Online, citing the fact that we work, bank and socialize online in the 21st century. “99% of your life relies on technology.” He recognizes that many of these apocalyptic scenarios won’t come to pass, but calmly suggests it’s better to be safe than sorry. Some of the hallmarks of prepping involve keeping stockpiles of food in your house – enough to last a week or so if the power goes out – and learning survival skills for how to cope in the natural world. –Mirror

Eartheart wrote:

iread about the "Lord of the Tharsis"

and thought about this Katharsis and thought:
its the egyptian KA, whichchanges all here...

does the repitition of fake content help to induce true content in ones mind?
if this parasitic niche of faked and deliberately misused content points to
the forgers and their agendas, can all deliberately forged Mnemo of the gaian
haloworlds be released/actualized in one swoop without damaging the bio hardware?
this so called parasitic mindframe/set of some subgroup, specialized in the forgery of internal
and collective mnemoplexes can be related to ideas of absolute truth beyond the individual
alignment frequency? By what authority? By what mirror?

B.B.Baghor wrote: ortho's words: "I try to provide a wide variety of posts -- despite accusations that I just keep saying the same things over and over again. On the other hand, if I were inconsistent, I would be accused of being confused and unstable. I frankly don't care what anyone thinks. I simply want everyone to think. Period".

Comment in the tubby with the grizzly bears catching salmon, in your post "For every salmon that is caught, hundreds make it past the bears......."

Once upon a time -- I had a digital voice-recorder which worked perfectly -- expect when recording one particular individual. A normal-sounding voice became a hideous gravely (almost demonic) voice when played-back on that particular digital-recorder!! This occurred repeatedly (without exception). I mentioned this to the Ancient Egyptian Deity -- to which they replied "Some Slip Through". Honest.

Honestly, ortho, comments on your saying the same things over and over, to me that's not an accusation. When I share that opinion, it's a comment on how it's perceived by me. For some reason you seem to be fixed on that judgment, of being accused, so that you feel compelled to repeat your message, in order to prove you're right or to make clear what it is you're after. That's a possible checkmate position, to me.

So -- is this a King and Queen War-Game?? I often feel like a Completely Ignorant Pawn!! Please remember that I am honestly modeling concepts and personalities which do NOT reflect who I am in "real-life". I might share some of the inclinations and biases -- but I don't behave like this in everyday life. What scares me is that the ease with which I model on this thread leads me to wonder if I might've been somewhat like this in previous lives. I'm honestly NOT channeling some nefarious entity. I don't do anything even remotely creepy. I might be channeling myself. Was it Lionhawk who spoke of channeling themselves?? I can't quite remember -- but I know it was someone on this forum who is no longer posting. Each of my posts are the same -- only different -- reflecting the concept of "Theme and Variations". I honestly keep feeling as though I was somehow set-up in this incarnation -- where every behavior and editorial-slant would be somehow used against me -- with the general theme of Build Them Up -- and Knock Them Down.

It's your reaction, to feel an accusation and you seem stuck in it. You're as much trying to live up to expectations of your audience as dictating your rules how the audience should listen. I think that you're in one of the most patient and kind forum here, with many members, including me, communicating with you in an open-minded way and with good intentions.

I can't dictate Rules of Listening. What Would Julian Treasure Say?? I can't even get others to listen. Period. This is a highly tolerant forum -- but I often feel as if I am silently being fed enough rope to hang myself (which I seem to be effectively and efficiently doing each and every day). I seem to be somehow protected -- while I continue to destroy myself. I guess I keep thinking that if I am never built-up -- it is more difficult to knock me down. This whole thing is frankly a Most Dangerous Game to me. It's so sad -- that it's almost funny...

I don't choose to belittle you or your thread, or display a smiling face, at the same time shaking my head inside. Some may do that here, to sort of please you. That's not helping, does it? Many of those who read your thread, have shown you they appreciate your presence here and (maybe with some difficulty) also your thread. You are not your thread, see? That's where the sting is present, or so it seems. I feel a sameness in your trying hard and my trying hard, in a way.

Forgive me for repeating this -- but you often remind me of "Angela" in that 1978 movie "The Word" (which sends chills up and down my spine). That's actually a compliment. I honestly feel like a sci-fi script-writer. Decades ago, I spoke with a very famous Hollywood-Director's Stepmother about wishing for "someone" to create a High-Tech Science-Fictional "Life of Christ" Based Upon The Desire of Ages by Ellen White. Honest. She spoke of her stepson being fearful. Now I think I understand why -- based upon which movies were being made at that time -- and what I know now.

There's an obstacle between people's minds present here, reading your thread and yours presenting food for thought in it. So far, you don't receive what you're aiming at, that's made clear by you. To me, it seems that somewhere there's an opinion put on ice. My efforts to clarify or understand, may prove that "never the twain shall meet." That opinion on ice, or a prefixed idea, may be in the mind of the readers, in my mind also, for I truly find it hard to follow, where your mind goes, or is, ortho.

I have repeatedly stated that this thread merely scratches the surface. I could make this MUCH more complex and graphic. I've been around highly-educated English and Australian Theologians and Preachers -- and it's quite humbling -- and even a bit creepy. Some of you know what I'm talking about. This thread is sort of Gizeh-Intelligence for the Rest of Us!!

Can we meet halfway? That could work maybe....... I think    I'm honestly thinking out loud, to myself mainly, sharing it here with a purpose, if you can get that. Is making sense done by thinking? Is humour a way to bypass the trap of absolute truth and perfection? When is an answer given that is also received as an answer?

Perhaps. I'm honestly attempting to understand what Genuine Fundamentalist Biblical Theology in the Context of Ancient and Modern Science-Fiction really looks like. My starting-point is that Everyone is Right -- and Everyone is Wrong -- which makes everyone angry and indignant. Irreverent-Humor seems to be destroying me -- little by little -- yet it seems to serve a utilitarian-purpose presently -- so I shall continue to crucify myself. We all have our crosses to bear -- don't we?? Orthodoxymoron or Wave of the Future?? Time Will Tell -- as it always does...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhGuXCuDb1U

Tim Minchin's Storm the Animated Movie

To me, this is a delicious merging of instinctual view and overview. Those 2 views are meant to be made aware in one moment, as I see it, in a positive "the twain shall meet".

I learned "Combining-Opposites" from Shirley Maclaine. I knew a Hollywood-Insider who told me that Shirley seemed to be lost in deep-thought when not on stage. Once -- while inside a major television-studio -- as I watched a rehearsal -- I noticed one particular individual who sat motionless and transfixed in front of the stage -- watching intently and silently -- with total-concentration. That made a deep impression on me. I honestly aspire to be that sort of person (regarding life, the universe, and everything). BTW -- I recently encountered an Individual of Interest who seemed to NOT like me one little bit -- and I think I might know why...

"The mind…  can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven" ― John Milton

Some of us seem to be "Making Heaven Into Hell" while others of us seem to be "Making Hell Into Heaven". What if CERN will somehow merge Heaven and Hell into some sort of an Eschatological Final-Jihad?? The Horror. I equate "Mind" with "Character" -- which we apparently take with us when we die. Who says "You Can't Take It With You"??

"Oxy -- You Need to Learn Your Place in the Great Scheme of Things..."

Hebrews 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,  2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;  3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had  by himself purged  our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;  4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.  5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?  6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith , And let all the angels of God worship him.  7 And of the angels he saith , Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.  8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.  9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore  God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.  10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:  11 They shall perish ; but thou remainest ; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment;  12 And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up , and they shall be changed : but thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail .  13 But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool ?  14 Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?

2:1 Therefore  we ought to give the more earnest heed to the things which we have heard , lest at any time we should let them slip .  2 For if the word spoken by angels was stedfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just recompence of reward;  3 How shall we escape , if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him;  4 God also bearing them witness , both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will?  5 For unto the angels hath he not put in subjection the world to come , whereof we speak .  6 But one in a certain place testified , saying , What is man, that thou art mindful of him? or the son of man, that thou visitest him?  7 Thou madest him a little  lower than the angels; thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works of thy hands:  8 Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. But now we see not yet all things put under him.  9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little  lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.  10 For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.  11 For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,  12 Saying , I will declare thy name unto my brethren, in the midst of the church will I sing praise unto thee.  13 And again, I will put my trust in him. And again, Behold I and the children which God hath given me.  14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is , the devil;  15 And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.  16 For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.  17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.  18 For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted , he is able to succour them that are tempted .

3:1 Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus;  2 Who was faithful to him that appointed him, as also Moses was faithful in all his house.  3 For this man was counted worthy of more glory than Moses, inasmuch as he who hath builded the house hath more honour than the house.  4 For every house is builded by some man; but he that built all things is God.  5 And Moses verily was faithful in all his house, as a servant, for a testimony of those things which were to be spoken after ;  6 But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end.  7 Wherefore  (as the Holy Ghost saith , To day if ye will hear his voice,  8 Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness:  9 When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my works forty years.  10 Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said , They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways.  11 So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.)  12 Take heed , brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.  13 But exhort one another daily  , while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.  14 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;  15 While it is said , To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.  16 For some, when they had heard , did provoke : howbeit not all that came out of Egypt by Moses.  17 But with whom was he grieved forty years? was it not with them that had sinned , whose carcases fell in the wilderness?  18 And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not ?  19 So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.

4:1 Let us therefore fear , lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it .  2 For unto us was the gospel preached , as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.  3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said , As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.  4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh  day from all his works.  5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.  6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein , and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:  7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said , To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.  8 For if Jesus had given them rest , then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.  9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.  10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.  11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.  12 For the word of God is quick , and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and  spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.  13 Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.  14 Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession.  15 For we have not an high priest which cannot  be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.  16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

5:1 For every high priest taken from among men is ordained for men in things pertaining to God, that he may offer both gifts and sacrifices for sins:  2 Who can have compassion on the ignorant , and on them that are out of the way ; for that he himself also is compassed with infirmity.  3 And by reason hereof he ought , as for the people, so also for himself, to offer for sins.  4 And no man taketh this honour unto himself, but he that is called of God, as was Aaron.  5 So also Christ glorified not himself to be made an high priest; but he that said unto him, Thou art my Son, to day have I begotten thee.  6 As he saith also in another place, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.  7 Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and  supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared;  8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered ;  9 And being made perfect , he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;  10 Called of God an high priest after the order of Melchisedec.  11 Of whom we have many things to say, and hard to be uttered , seeing ye are dull of hearing.  12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.  13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.  14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

6:1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,  2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.  3 And this will we do , if  God permit .  4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened , and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,  5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come ,  6 If they shall fall away , to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh , and put him to an open shame .  7 For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them  by whom it is dressed , receiveth blessing from God:  8 But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned.  9 But, beloved, we are persuaded better things of you, and things that accompany salvation, though we thus speak .  10 For God is not unrighteous to forget your work and labour of love, which ye have shewed toward his name, in that ye have ministered to the saints, and do minister .  11 And we desire that every one of you do shew the same diligence to the full assurance of hope unto the end:  12 That ye be not slothful, but followers of them who through faith and patience inherit the promises.  13 For when God made promise to Abraham, because he could swear by no greater, he sware by himself,  14 Saying , Surely  blessing I will bless thee, and multiplying I will multiply thee.  15 And so, after he had patiently endured , he obtained the promise.  16 For men verily swear by the greater: and an oath for confirmation is to them an end of all strife.  17 Wherein  God, willing more abundantly to shew unto the heirs of promise the immutability of his counsel, confirmed it by an oath:  18 That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie , we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us :  19 Which hope we have as an anchor of the soul, both sure and stedfast, and which entereth into that within the veil;  20 Whither the forerunner is for us entered , even Jesus, made an high priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.

7:1 For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him;  2 To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is , King of peace;  3 Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually .  4 Now consider how great this man was, unto whom even the patriarch Abraham gave the tenth of the spoils.  5 And verily they that are of the sons of Levi, who receive the office of the priesthood, have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law, that is , of their brethren, though they come out of the loins of Abraham:  6 But he whose descent is not counted from them received tithes of Abraham, and blessed him that had the promises.  7 And without all contradiction the less is blessed of the better.  8 And here  men that die receive tithes; but there he receiveth them, of whom it is witnessed that he liveth .  9 And as I may so say  , Levi also, who receiveth tithes, payed tithes in Abraham.  10 For he was yet in the loins of his father, when Melchisedec met him.  11 If  therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood,  (for under it the people received the law ,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?  12 For the priesthood being changed , there is made of necessity a change also of the law.  13 For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar.  14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.  15 And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest,  16 Who is made , not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.  17 For he testifieth  , Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.  18 For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.  19 For the law made nothing perfect , but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.  20 And inasmuch as  not without an oath he was made priest:  21 (For those priests were  made without an oath; but this with an oath by him that said unto him, The Lord sware and will not repent , Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec:)  22 By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament.  23 And they truly were  many priests, because they were not suffered to continue by reason of death:  24 But this man, because he continueth ever , hath an unchangeable priesthood.  25 Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.  26 For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;  27 Who needeth  not daily , as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.  28 For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore.

8:1 Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens;  2 A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched , and not man.  3 For every high priest is ordained to offer gifts and  sacrifices: wherefore it is of necessity that this man have somewhat also to offer .  4 For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law:  5 Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See , saith he , that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.  6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.  7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.  8 For finding fault with them, he saith , Behold , the days come , saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:  9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not , saith the Lord.  10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:  11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying , Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least  to the greatest .  12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.  13 In that he saith , A new covenant, he hath made the first old . Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

9:1 Then verily the first covenant had also ordinances of divine service, and a worldly sanctuary.  2 For there was a tabernacle made ; the first, wherein  was the candlestick, and the table, and the shewbread  ; which is called the sanctuary.  3 And after the second veil, the tabernacle which is called the Holiest of all  ;  4 Which had the golden censer, and the ark of the covenant overlaid round about with gold, wherein was the golden pot that had manna, and Aaron's rod that budded , and the tables of the covenant;  5 And over it the cherubims of glory shadowing the mercyseat; of which we cannot  now speak particularly .  6 Now when these things were thus ordained , the priests went always into the first tabernacle, accomplishing the service of God.  7 But into the second went the high priest alone once every year, not without blood, which he offered for himself, and for the errors of the people:  8 The Holy Ghost this signifying , that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest , while as the first tabernacle was yet standing:  9 Which was a figure for the time then present , in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect , as pertaining to the conscience;  10 Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.  11 But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come , by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say , not of this building;  12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.  13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean , sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:  14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?  15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.  16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator .  17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth .  18 Whereupon neither the first testament was dedicated without blood.  19 For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, and scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book , and all the people,  20 Saying , This is the blood of the testament which God hath enjoined unto you.  21 Moreover he sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle, and all the vessels of the ministry.  22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.  23 It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.  24 For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:  25 Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others;  26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.  27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die , but after this the judgment:  28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear  the second time without sin unto salvation.

10:1 For the law having a shadow of good things to come , and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year  continually  make the comers thereunto perfect .  2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered ? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.  3 But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.  4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.  5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith , Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:  6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure .  7 Then said I , Lo , I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.  8 Above when he said  , Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;  9 Then said he , Lo , I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.  10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.  11 And  every priest standeth daily  ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins:  12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;  13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool .  14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified .  15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before ,  16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;  17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.  18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.  19 Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,  20 By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say , his flesh;  21 And having an high priest over the house of God;  22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.  23 Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering;  (for he is faithful that promised  24 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:  25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching .  26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,  27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.  28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:  29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye , shall he be thought worthy , who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified , an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?  30 For we know him that hath said , Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense , saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.  31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.  32 But call to remembrance the former days, in which, after ye were illuminated , ye endured a great fight of afflictions;  33 Partly , whilst ye were made a gazingstock both by reproaches and afflictions; and partly, whilst ye became companions of them that were so used .  34 For ye had compassion of me in my bonds, and took joyfully the spoiling of your goods , knowing in yourselves that ye have in heaven a better and an enduring substance.  35 Cast not away therefore your confidence, which hath great recompence of reward.  36 For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise.  37 For yet a little while , and he that shall come will come , and will not tarry .  38 Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back , my soul shall have no pleasure in him.  39 But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.

11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for , the evidence of things not seen .  2 For by it the elders obtained a good report .  3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear .  4 By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh .  5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found , because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony , that he pleased God.  6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is , and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.  7 By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear , prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.  8 By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed ; and he went out , not knowing whither he went .  9 By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise:  10 For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God.  11 Through faith also Sara herself received strength to conceive seed, and was delivered of a child when she was past age , because she judged him faithful who had promised .  12 Therefore sprang there even of one, and him as good as dead , so many as the stars of the sky in multitude, and as the sand which is by the sea shore innumerable.  13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.  14 For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country.  15 And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out , they might have had opportunity to have returned .  16 But now they desire a better country, that is , an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed  to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.  17 By faith Abraham, when he was tried , offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son,  18 Of whom it was said , That in Isaac shall thy seed be called :  19 Accounting that God was able to raise him up , even from the dead; from whence also he received him in a figure.  20 By faith Isaac blessed Jacob and Esau concerning things to come .  21 By faith Jacob, when he was a dying , blessed both the sons of Joseph; and worshipped , leaning upon the top of his staff.  22 By faith Joseph, when he died , made mention of the departing of the children of Israel; and gave commandment concerning his bones.  23 By faith Moses, when he was born , was hid three months of his parents, because they saw he was a proper child; and they were not afraid of the king's commandment.  24 By faith Moses, when he was come to years, refused to be called the son of Pharaoh's daughter;  25 Choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures  of sin for a season;  26 Esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt: for he had respect unto the recompence of the reward.  27 By faith he forsook Egypt, not fearing the wrath of the king: for he endured , as seeing him who is invisible.  28 Through faith he kept the passover, and the sprinkling of blood, lest he that destroyed the firstborn should touch them.  29 By faith they passed through the Red sea as by dry land: which the Egyptians assaying to do were drowned .  30 By faith the walls of Jericho fell down , after they were compassed about seven days.  31 By faith the harlot Rahab perished not with them that believed not , when she had received the spies with peace.  32 And what shall I more say ? for the time would fail me to tell of Gedeon, and of Barak, and of Samson, and of Jephthae; of David also, and Samuel, and of the prophets:  33 Who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions,  34 Quenched the violence of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, out of weakness were made strong , waxed valiant in fight, turned to flight the armies of the aliens.  35 Women received their dead raised to life again  : and others were tortured , not accepting deliverance; that they might obtain a better resurrection:  36 And others had trial of cruel mockings and scourgings, yea, moreover of bonds and imprisonment:  37 They were stoned , they were sawn asunder , were tempted , were slain with the sword  : they wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins  ; being destitute , afflicted , tormented ;  38 (Of whom the world was not worthy:) they wandered in deserts, and in mountains, and in dens and caves of the earth.  39 And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise:  40 God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect .

12:1 Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about  with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,  2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.  3 For consider him that endured such contradiction of sinners against himself, lest ye be wearied and faint in your minds.  4 Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin.  5 And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:  6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth , and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth .  7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?  8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.  9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence : shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live ?  10 For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure ; but he for our profit , that we might be partakers of his holiness.  11 Now no  chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby .  12 Wherefore lift up the hands which hang down , and the feeble knees;  13 And make straight paths for your feet, lest that which is lame be turned out of the way ; but let it rather be healed .  14 Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:  15 Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby  many be defiled ;  16 Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright.  17 For ye know how that afterward , when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected : for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears.  18 For ye are not come unto the mount that might be touched , and that burned with fire, nor unto blackness, and darkness, and tempest,  19 And the sound of a trumpet, and the voice of words; which voice they that heard intreated that the word should not be spoken to them any more:  20 (For they could not endure that which was commanded , And if so much as a beast touch the mountain, it shall be stoned , or thrust through with a dart:  21 And so terrible was the sight , that Moses said , I exceedingly fear  and quake:)  22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,  23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect ,  24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.  25 See that ye refuse not him that speaketh . For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven:  26 Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised , saying , Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven.  27 And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken , as of things that are made , that those things which cannot be shaken may remain .  28 Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:  29 For  our God is a consuming fire.

13:1 Let brotherly love continue .  2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby  some have entertained angels unawares .  3 Remember them that are in bonds, as bound with them ; and them which suffer adversity , as being yourselves also in the body.  4 Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge .  5 Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have : for he hath said , I will never leave thee, nor  forsake thee.  6 So that we may boldly say , The Lord is my helper, and I will not fear what man shall do unto me.  7 Remember them which have the rule over you, who have spoken unto you the word of God: whose faith follow , considering the end of their conversation.  8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.  9 Be not carried about with divers and strange doctrines. For it is a good thing that the heart be established with grace; not with meats, which have not profited them that have been occupied therein .  10 We have an altar, whereof they have no right to eat which serve the tabernacle.  11 For the bodies of those beasts, whose blood is brought into the sanctuary by the high priest for sin, are burned without the camp.  12 Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate.  13 Let us go forth therefore unto him without the camp, bearing his reproach.  14 For here have we no continuing city, but we seek one to come .  15 By him therefore let us offer the sacrifice of praise to God continually, that is , the fruit of our lips giving thanks to his name.  16 But to do good and to communicate forget not: for with such sacrifices God is well pleased .  17 Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves : for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief : for that is unprofitable for you.  18 Pray for us: for we trust we have a good conscience, in all things willing to live honestly.  19 But I beseech you the rather to do this, that I may be restored to you the sooner.  20 Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant,  21 Make you perfect in every good work to do his will, working in you that which is wellpleasing in his sight, through Jesus Christ; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.  22 And I beseech you, brethren, suffer the word of exhortation: for I have written a letter unto you in few words.  23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty ; with whom, if he come shortly, I will see you.  24 Salute all them that have the rule over you, and all the saints. They of Italy salute you.  25 Grace be with you all. Amen . [Written to the Hebrews from Italy, by Timothy.]

B.B.Baghor wrote:Here's a couple of interesting views on Lucifer and his origin and role. Strike a match and light a candle to ponder some more food for thought on the "Lightbearer" who's now, according my perceptions, being invited to dine with God in the Hall of Fame decorated by us human beings, now waiting behind the curtains  

"When Carl Sagan had famously said that “we're made of star stuff,” he wasn't joking because the facts are that the cosmos are hidden within all of us humans. We are the SO BELOW here on earth in which the cosmos and heavens are the AS ABOVE.

Albert Pike, 33rd Degree Freemason and Sovereign Grand Commander of the Scottish Rite said; “Lucifer the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with its splendours intolerable blinds feeble sensual, or selfish souls? Doubt it not! " And one of Freemasonry's greatest philosophers that has ever lived, 33rd Degree Freemason and master Rosicrucian Manly P. Hall said this about Lucifer in his book, All Seeing Eye;

"Lucifer represents the individual intellect and will which rebels against the domination of Nature and attempts to maintain itself contrary to natural impulse. Lucifer, in the form of Venus, is the morning star spoken of in Revelation, which is to be given to those who overcome the world."

Source: http://gnosticwarrior.com/lucifer.html

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Isaiah Chapter 14 is the ONLY direct reference in the Old Testament to Lucifer, and it’s here:
http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Isaiah-Chapter-14/

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Who's Lucifer? by Brian Knowles

"The King James Version renders it as follows: "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How art though cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations."

In spite of this rendering, the proper name "Lucifer" is not in the original Hebrew text. In Hebrew "Lucifer, son of the morning" is helel ben shachar. It could be translated "Shining one, son of the dawn." It is not a proper name, but an epithet for the king of Babylon.

Why then did the King James translators translate "Lucifer" for "Shining one" in this passage?

The answer lies in two earlier translations. In the third century B.C.E., Ptolemy Philadelphus (285-247 B.C.E.), the Greek-speaking Pharoah of Egypt,
commissioned a Greek translation of the Hebrew Scriptures for his own library. Seventy-two scholars performed the work. They became known as "The Seventy." Their translation itself was called "The Septuagint" or "LXX," which are the Roman numerals for "70."

In translating Isaiah 14:12, the Seventy chose the word Heosphoros for the Hebrew helel ben shachar. Heos means "in or of the morning" and phoros
means "that which is borne, or bearing." This is not an exact translation of the original Hebrew, but it’s reasonably close.

Jerome’s Translation

As mentioned above, the Septuagint (LXX) translation was commissioned during the reign of Ptolemy Philadelphus. The Prophets section wasn’t completed until around 200 B.C.E. By the time of Jesus and the apostles, the LXX was in common use throughout Palestine. It is clear from the wording that many of the New Testament’s quotations from the Old Testament are taken from the Greek (LXX), rather than the Hebrew, text.

Because Greek is a very different language than Hebrew, much of the original meaning and intent was lost in the LXX.

As empires rose and fell, the fortunes of languages rose and fell with them. The longer the Romans ruled, the more prominent Latin became. During Constantine’s reign, the Roman Empire took over gentile Christianity, politicized it, and made it the state religion. By the fourth century C.E., the Latin "father" Jerome (340 AD – 419 AD) had risen to prominence within the Roman Catholic Church. At the suggestion of Pope Damasus, Jerome began work on a Latin translation of the Bible. After 20 years of toil, the translation now known as the Vulgate was completed in the year 405 C.E.

Jerome used the LXX version, along with the Hebrew, in making his translation. As Church historian Schaff explains, "From the present stage of biblical philology and exegesis the Vulgate can be charged, indeed, with innumerable faults, inaccuracies, inconsistencies, and arbitrary dealing, in particulars…"

When he translated Isaiah 14:12, Jerome did not strictly translate the Hebrew helel ben shachar, nor did he use the Greek (LXX) Heosphoros, which term, by his day, had fallen largely into disuse. Instead he translated as though the original word had been lukophos. Lukophos, by Jerome’s time, had become an epithet for the gods Apollo and Pan. Earlier, Catholic theologians Tertullian and Origen had begun to read Satan into the story of the King of Babylon in Isaiah 14. Jerome’s selection of words may have been influenced by this theology.

As a result of Jerome’s translation, the images of Pan and the Devil were morphed together. Today, the devil is often depicted as "Lucifer," and his appearance is similar to the ancient god Pan, with goat-like features including horns and cloven hoofs. Yet there is nothing in the text itself that would indicate that a figure named "Lucifer" is intended. Nor do these verses in Isaiah 14 represent an account of the fall of the devil."

Source: http://www.godward.org/hebrew%20roots/Feature%20Articles/who_is%20lucifer.htm

orthodoxymoron wrote:Thank-you B.B. Look for "sermons" on "Lucifer" and the "Sabbath" in the Holy Bible. There aren't any. I could mention other topics -- but in my SDA background these were "Hot-Topics". Ellen G. White is very prolific and eloquent regarding "Lucifer" and the "Sabbath" with "here a little -- there a little" biblical-support. Some have charged that SDA's make the books of Ellen White a "New-Bible". I'm conflicted. I actually prefer reading the following Ellen White books (in the following order) as an alternative to reading Genesis through Revelation straight out of the Bible -- but is this approach closer-to or further-from the "Truth"??

1. Patriarchs and Prophets.
2. Prophets and Kings.
3. The Desire of Ages.
4. The Acts of the Apostles.

Imagine Cleopatra, Delenn, or Vala Mal Doran reading these volumes theatrically in a cathedral or spaceship!! I am open to the theory that the Holy Bible and Ellen White Books contain a lot of "Historical-Fiction" -- but how is one to REALLY know (without absolute-access to City-State Documents and Scholars)??

Carol wrote:Lawrence Wilkerson, former chief of staff to former US Secretary of State Colin Powell claims that US politics is determined by about 400 people with a combined wealth of trillions of dollars who control government decision-making from the backstage. http://sputniknews.com/us/20150829/1026327916.html#ixzz3kG0U0QcE

Carol wrote:

 Pope Francis Calls For A New Global Political Authority To Save Humanity
http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/pope-francis-calls-for-a-new-global-political-authority-to-save-humanity
Well there you have it... the one world government.

Pope Francis says that global warming is a fact and that a new global political authority is necessary in order to save humanity from utter disaster.  The new encyclical that was scheduled to be released on Thursday has been leaked, and it is being reported that this new global political authority that Pope Francis envisions would be in charge of “the reduction of pollution and the development of poor countries and regions”.  The funny thing is that this sounds very much in line with the new sustainable development agenda that is going to be launched at the United Nations in September.  This radical new agenda is already being called “Agenda 21 on steroids” because it goes so much farther than Agenda 21 ever did.  The new UN agenda does not just address the environment – it also addresses issues such as poverty, agriculture, education and gender equality.  It is essentially a blueprint for governing the entire planet, and that sounds very much like what Pope Francis also wants.  In fact, Pope Francis is going to give the speech that kicks off the UN conference in September where this new sustainable agenda will be launched.  For some reason, this Pope has decided to make the fight against climate change the central pillar of his papacy, and he is working very hard to unite as much of humanity as possible to get behind that effort.

It is not an accident that this new encyclical is coming out now.  An article from the Guardian even states that the release was intended “to have maximum public impact” prior to the Pope’s major speech at the UN in September…

The rare encyclical, called “Laudato Sii”, or “Praised Be”, has been timed to have maximum public impact ahead of the pope’s meeting with Barack Obama and his address to the US Congress and the UN general assembly in September.

It is also intended to improve the prospect of a strong new UN global agreement to cut climate emissions. By adding a moral dimension to the well-rehearsed scientific arguments, Francis hopes to raise the ambition of countries above their own self-interest to secure a strong deal in a crucial climate summit in Paris in November.

Much of the encyclical is not that surprising.  But what is raising eyebrows is the Pope’s call for a new global political authority.  Here is more from the Guardian…

Pope Francis will this week call for changes in lifestyles and energy consumption to avert the “unprecedented destruction of the ecosystem” before the end of this century, according to a leaked draft of a papal encyclical. In a document released by an Italian magazine on Monday, the pontiff will warn that failure to act would have “grave consequences for all of us”.

Francis also called for a new global political authority tasked with “tackling … the reduction of pollution and the development of poor countries and regions”. His appeal echoed that of his predecessor, pope Benedict XVI, who in a 2009 encyclical proposed a kind of super-UN to deal with the world’s economic problems and injustices.

What is even more alarming is who will be on the stage with the Pope when this encyclical is formally released. John Schellnhuber is a German professor that has some very radical views on climate change.  For instance, he believes that our planet is overpopulated by at least six billion people…

And Schellnhuber also happens to believe that we need a new global political authority.  If he had his way, there would be an “Earth Constitution”, a “Global Council” directly elected by the people of the planet, and a “Planetary Court” that would be above all other courts on the globe.  The following is an excerpt from a very disturbing piece that he authored…

Let me conclude this short contribution with a daydream about those key institutions that could bring about a sophisticated — and therefore more appropriate — version of the conventional “world government” notion. Global democracy might be organized around three core activities, namely (i) an Earth Constitution; (ii) a Global Council; and (iii) a Planetary Court. I cannot discuss these institutions in any detail here, but I would like to indicate at least that:

– the Earth Constitution would transcend the UN Charter and identify those first principles guiding humanity in its quest for freedom, dignity, security and sustainability;

– the Global Council would be an assembly of individuals elected directly by all people on Earth, where eligibility should be not constrained by geographical, religious, or cultural quotas; and

– the Planetary Court would be a transnational legal body open to appeals from everybody, especially with respect to violations of the Earth Constitution.



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orthodoxymoron wrote:I don't think we have any accurate idea of who we really are -- or regarding the true nature of the universe (or even the solar system). We might all be in for some very rude awakenings. Just don't wake-up on the wrong side of the bed -- even if it turns out that we've been sleeping with the devil for thousands of years. I'm going to go way, way, way, way out on a broken limb with the following speculation -- and I don't know where to begin or end -- because it is insanely farfetched speculation. It has to do with Michael, Lilith, the Creation of Some Version of Humanoid Beings -- the writing of certain books of the Bible -- and the War in Heaven. Should the Song of Solomon really have been named the Song of Lilith?? What if someone told you that you were Michael, Lilith, Isis, and Cleopatra (among others) -- that you created some version of humanity -- and that you wrote five books of the Bible?? I suspect that someone has been playing massive mind-games with me -- but there have been various hints from various sources, that some or all of the above might be true for me on a soul-basis. I realize this qualifies me many times over for that secret mental institution -- but I am quite sober and reasonable -- although being this far down the rabbit-hole makes life completely insane 24/7 -- which is why I just whisper and whimper on this thread -- and why I honestly keep trying to remain silent and contrite. I'm sure there are those who sincerely hope that I shut-up -- so they don't have to shut me up -- and I'm NOT kidding. On the other hand -- back-channel communication might be sort of a safety-valve. What if Lilith wrote the Song of Solomon, Psalms, Proverbs, Isaiah, and at least one of the Gospels (or at least the teachings contained within the Gospels)?? What if Solomon was Sol-Amen-Ra?? What if the Queen of Sheba was Lilith?? The Exodus and the Reigns of King David and King Solomon are VERY Interesting!! Especially Behind the Scenes!! Remember that strange message I posted a couple of months ago?? I received the following message (unedited) under VERY Strange Circumstances:

You were Incarnate 2000 Years ago and let Us also say that You brought the Prime Creator's Message to the People (Big "G"). After You had been exiled to the far east in those times - A Usurper (Jesus Cesarian) was set up to draw others away from Your Message and to corrupt It. 300 Years Later - The Council of Nicea was convened by a Roman Emperor (Constantine) to reduce the understandings You'd brought to the People - From approximately 37 Books down to 5. Under the Tutelage of these Controller's - Classical Christian Religion was enacted and forced upon the People over the next 1700 Years...The True Teachings of Yeshua are being held in the Vatican Archives so that They can remain on Top as Controllers (See Stigmata: We need no Men or Buildings to reach the Prime Creator was the Thrust of the Teachings kept secret - The Path within). Does this then mean that the Man  that originally brought the Message was trying to deceive Us? Or is It rather that the Controller's perverted the Understandings that You'd brought Us previously on Purpose? Simply put - I would say - The Later...This is the Crux and one They have worked hard to convolute...

What do you think about such a thing?? I did NOT make this up!! I found it in my word-processor!! I just stumbled upon it -- and I could've easily missed it!! The Ancient Egyptian Deity called me Michael -- but I have NO Idea whether there is any substance to that, or not. I've simply used various messages, suggestions, and sources as conceptual-crutches for modeling the unknowable. I'm NOT going to spell this out -- but I could go into a lot more detail. Let's just say that I don't really care one way or the other. It honestly makes very little difference to me. In fact, it could be a VERY bad thing if it were true. I honestly have NO Idea who I might really be on a soul-basis -- and I'm NOT going to try very hard to find out!! My concern is how to help make things work correctly and properly in this solar system -- and possibly beyond -- and this seems to presently be an impossible dream. I honestly keep seeing myself in a 600 square-foot office-apartment and think-tank of probably less than a dozen researchers -- on an ongoing basis -- lifetime after lifetime -- probably inside some Sport-Model Piloted-Asteroid the Size of Phobos. They supposedly like me on Phobos (for who knows what reasons)!! I might've spent a wild-weekend there in a previous incarnation!! BTW -- note that in the most recent "V" the V-Ships have surfaces that are sort of asteroid-like AND in the fourth episode, a bunch of V-Ships are on the edge of the solar system (in close proximity to something which looks like it might be Nibiru)!! What if Anna (in 'V') and Lilith (in literature and images) are depicted in ways which do not reflect who they might be (or might've been) historically and presently?? I continue to say that I liked the best aspects of Anna and the V's -- but hated the worst parts. What hidden-agendas might be seen in various Sci-Fi series and movies (including 'V')?? Once again, consider re-watching the first four episodes of the most recent 'V' series. Really, most of this thread is closely related to this final post. You would need to look very, very closely to really 'get-it' -- and I don't intend to make things any clearer than I already have. I have purposely made things somewhat obtuse and obscure. I need to say it one more time -- that I have ZERO CONFIDENCE in myself in this particular incarnation -- but that I think this particular thread is VERY interesting if you REALLY study it -- and read between the lines. Once again, in many ways, I am an irresponsible idiot -- and that's probably being kind. But in other ways, I seem to be capable of significant insights in the proper context. But I'm not quick and sharp at all. I'm really very miserable and sluggish -- and I'm really not quite sure why. If I were a Long-Lost Lilith -- would that make me a target of the Nether-Realms?? I have NO freaking idea. Most days I just want to disappear, call this life a Mulligan, and start over. Call me the Mulligan Man!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tt3UH2k9lu0 I truly HATE Myself and this Stupid Incarnation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MP_G6arpVI I wish to state one more time that I don't get involved in channeling, regression-hypnosis, bloody-rituals, mediums, madams, séances, out of body, remote-viewing, or anything even remotely creepy. I have never belonged to a cult or a secret society. I've been repeatedly invited to join the Masons, but I have declined these offers. I think Ancient Egypt might hold the key to a lot of things -- but I prefer to approach Egyptology from a Biblical Perspective. I just think that the Bible has been massively messed-with, and that it is just part of a very messy and complex story. Several individuals have given me various and sundry clues over several years -- and I won't repeat them -- although I have given you a few clues (including within this final post). I'm not going to do anything with this thread -- other than study it -- and keep my mouth shut. I don't know if this post makes my life more threatening and threatened, or not. Again, I really don't care if this far-fetched hypothesis is true or not. Please don't die laughing at me!! I don't really know what to think about most important things. I just present various 'roads less traveled'. I'm mostly trying to help solve a puzzle -- and help save a race which seems to be on life-support.

orthodoxymoron wrote:JT: "Ya well if your in conflict with divinity i guess thats what you get as it has been said that the universal matrix of physical reality is conscious and hears everything you think even if your not conscious of it then its just usually just garbled pre programmed 3d go to work go to school go to eat go to bed trapped in a square loop of time on the gregorian time matrix its almost Christmas time again lol oh jeeze here comes the humans with their chainsaws lol well at least the boys know how to operate em right up here."

ODM: So much for privacy. I've been told that I'm watched even in the bathroom. Am I supposed to be OK with that??? We seem to be watched, listened-to, harassed, possessed, misused, abused, exploited,  deceived, tortured, murdered, etc. -- and we're supposed to be OK with that??? BTW -- what are those chainsaws used for up there -- exactly?? There are some fine religious people who have no problem with the Human-Sacrifice of Christ -- Old-Testament and End-Time Torture and Mass-Murder by God and the Angels -- but you had better not utter the F---Word!! Not in Their House!! I'm sick of this moral-inconsistency!! I'm sick of the Alternative-Paradigm and New-Age mumbo-jumbo!! I'm sick of the whole GD Mess -- and I'm going away for at least a year or two. Perhaps I'll read some Murray Rothbard or some Martin Heidegger!! Perhaps I'll study Politics and Religion in the 1930's -- with special attention given to England, Germany, and Italy!! You get the picture. I've sort of burned-out -- and it's time to move-on. I even have a couple of new hobbies planned for next year -- if I'm still alive, that is. I continue to think we are in the middle of a very ancient and nasty War in Heaven -- and that we know comparatively little about the mess we're in. When one really starts poking and prodding, things start getting pretty darn ugly. I've tried to make all of this painfully real -- and it's just about finished me off. I can only imagine how bad a lot of City-State meetings really are. Some of you know what I'm talking about. I guess my present goal is to say less and less about most everything -- especially the stuff I've been posting -- and just internalize my quest -- becoming an expert in the areas I've touched upon -- without doing anything. Period. I realize this is a HUGE waste of time and energy -- and that it might really and truly put me in the Bethesda Naval Hospital -- yet I think it might be important relative to my next incarnation -- as strange as THAT sounds!! I've said over and over that I'm virtually useless and hopeless in this present incarnation -- yet in my next tour of duty -- with the proper training -- I think I might be of some use as a consultant relative to what I've modeled over the past few years. On the other hand -- I might've so angered the Galactic Powers That Be -- that I might not even have a Next-Incarnation. This might be 'Curtains'. I wish I were joking. But please know that I haven't dug in my heels and circled the wagons. This has been all about seeking the TRUTH. No disrespect or hostility has been intended. I simply do not really know who and what I'm dealing with -- and no one on the inside really seems to wish to tell me.

Anyway, I'm done. This just isn't fun. I perceive that I've stepped over the line with my last few posts (including this one) -- and I also perceive that a 'crack-down and purge the malcontents' time of trouble and reckoning might be upon us. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpiUKyZa-xE It's probably too late for me to not be considered as being an unacceptable and problematic reprobate heretic of a most pestilential nature (or something like that) -- so I'm assuming the worst for my near and distant future -- regardless of which regime dominates in the coming decades. I truly could've done a lot more if I hadn't felt miserable and attacked -- and if I didn't have to worry about physical harm and eternal damnation. I still think that this whole Human-Experiment could've been handled in a much more constructive manner -- regardless of whether the experiment ultimately succeeded, or not. I've tried to help over the past several years (even if it didn't seem like it) -- but this effort didn't work -- and now I feel very little obligation and responsibility to keep repeating something which does not work -- and which no one wants. I'm out of here -- and it might be nearly impossible to get me back -- if anyone were so inclined (which I sincerely doubt). The best and the brightest will hopefully save the world, the solar system, and the galaxy -- and they can hopefully do it without the assistance of completely ignorant fools such as myself. It's sort of nice to NOT be needed. It's a truly liberating experience to NOT feel the crushing weight of responsibility for saving the human race (and who knows which other than human races). What if a reprehensible state of affairs has been allowed to exist within this solar system for thousands of years -- for some very legitimate reasons?? I'm not trying to defend evil. I'm just wondering why the universe at large, hasn't cleaned up what seems to be a miserable mess?? But what if that mess is the human race (and not just evil souls, situations, and humans)?? The Book of Revelation describes the end of life as we know it -- but would that necessarily be a good thing?? I am very Sirius regarding my perception that not everyone in this universe is in love with humanity -- and that some desire that humanity not exist anywhere, under any circumstances. There is evidence for that sort of thing -- and I will continue to model that basic hypothesis. Just know that I will be imagining the most idealistic -- and the most horrific -- world, solar system, and galactic possibilities imaginable. I'm worried Stock-Market Analysts have become Distorted and Bastardized. That keeps me awake at night. That -- and worrying about a Counterfeit Second-Coming of Christ, an Alien-Invasion, Moon-Nazis, the Arrival of the Descended-Disasters, Thermonuclear-Warfare, the Destruction of Everyone (Including the Righteous and the Wicked), and the Chinese Taking Possession of the United States. It's the Little-Things. If you secret-agents ever see my hands shaking -- you'll know why. I'm not sure what percentage of the population should think like I do -- but it should probably be less than one-percent. The problem is, that those who REALLY know the Real-Deal are probably so controlled and watched, that they can't do much with their insider-information -- other than follow orders, get back to work, control and exploit the masses. What if the world, solar system, and galaxy will HAVE to be saved by Completely Ignorant Fools (such as myself)??!! But, please, if I am ever forced into such a role, PLEASE let me do it by continuing this thread -- rather than by making a Completely Ignorant Fool out of myself in Real-Life -- in front of the whole universe!!

Once again, it is nearly impossible to substantiate or invalidate much of what we discuss. In a broader sense, History and Religion are the same way. Who really knows?? I am reduced to considering a lot of possibilities and a lot of information -- and then just getting hunches about the way things might likely be. I've said many times that I feel as if I am in conflict with Divinity, Humanity, and Myself -- and this does NOT make me a happy-camper in a happy-clappy church. Speaking of church -- what if religion will somehow be integrated into school, work, home, and family -- rather than being a stand-alone institution?? What if most church properties will be somehow converted into schools (with churches)?? I've seen some very fine integrations -- wherein a church-school property is well-utilized seven days a week!! Remember to ALWAYS Have a Sabbath-Attitude!! I do NOT wish to Degrade the Decalogue -- but I think we need to take a VERY Careful Look at ALL of Deuteronomy -- Determining What Deuteronomy Means in Modernity -- to ALL the People of the World. Enough Said About THAT!! I've been replying -- but now I'm going to try listening (without replying). BTW -- there are HUGE differences between reacting -- replying -- and responding! The fact that controversial and sensational threads get the most attention is behind the reason I think this world remains screwed-up (and seems to be getting worse). I continue to think this solar system (and not just this world) is One Big Business called Purgatory Incorporated wherein conflict, disease, pain, suffering, warfare, misery, greed, fear, class-warfare, holy-wars, religious-controversy, nationalism, uber-alles, end-of-the-world, saved-and-lost, us-v-them, Salvation4Sale, etc, etc, etc -- are Good for Business!! I call it The Corrupt Ruling the Stupid!! The Golden Rule = Those with the Gold RULE!!! The sad thing is that both the Corrupt and the Stupid seem to be pleased with the present arrangement!! Creating Heaven on Earth aka Paradise Incorporated might be harshly resisted by both the Corrupt and the Stupid!! I suspect that this might be the reason we seem to have Harsh-Administrators of this Prison Planet in Rebellion!! Attempting to Make Things Better might actually Make Things Worse!! I'm morphing into Lurk-Mode for at least a year or two -- watching and listening without replying. One more thing. Consider Everything from All-Angles Always -- and then Compete Without Ceasing With Positive Response Ability!! Robert H. Schuller got it right with Possibility Thinking -- yet this should be ALL Possibilities -- and NOT simply the Positive Possibilities!! Self-Doubt should be punctuated with Self-Esteem -- but neither Self-Doubt or Self-Esteem should be chronic!! The combining of Roman Catholicism with the Crystal Cathedral should be MOST Interesting!! Please remember that this irreverent and slap-stick thread was a means to an end -- which has ended in failure.

As I go away -- please research Soul-Nature, Human-Nature, Pre-Human Nature, and Other Than Human Nature -- with special attention to Conditions Surrounding Their Creation and/or Evolution -- and the Morality and Obedience of All of the Above. In other words -- leave no stone unturned in this general area of research. While I am disgusted by much Human-Behavior and Human-History -- I keep thinking that Basic Human-Nature is actually not that bad -- and that it seems that Humans must be deceived, programmed, and pushed to do most of the "BAD" things they are famous for. Are Humans too disobedient or too obedient?? Are we easily led astray because we are too compliant and too obedient?? Does it take someone such as Hitler to rile us up to do horrible things?? Still, I am puzzled by the disconnect between the Germany of the 1930's and the Germany of the 1940's -- as well as the alleged persistence of the Nazi-Phenomenon into the 21st Century. Who told Hitler what to say and do?? I might study Martin Heidegger to try to understand this puzzle. Does it take someone such as Alex Jones to wake us up to bad things happening all around us in plain sight?? Does it take ranting and raving to wake us up?? Consider re-watching The Century of the Self. I keep sensing a Harsh and Sinister Solar System Administration. I keep wondering about the legitimacy of this suspected administration. Perhaps there are legitimate reasons why we live in Purgatory Incorporated rather than Paradise Incorporated. I suspect that Ancient Orion, Sirius, Atlantis, Babylon, Egypt, Israel, Greece, Persia, Rome, etc. probably hold a lot of the keys to figuring this out. Plus, I know there are those in this solar system who know the WHOLE Story -- and I think I've spoken directly to at least two of them -- but they were quite reluctant to tell me much. I just knew that they knew -- and I tried to read between the lines -- but I didn't like what my perceptions were revealing to me. It was very frustrating and frightening -- and it further ruined my already ruined life. I've joked about being a Token Nice-Guy Insider -- but I honestly question whether I would retain what little sanity I had left, for any longer than 24 hours on the "Inside" -- and I'm NOT joking. I truly think it might be THAT Bad. The Illuminati are often portrayed as being Heartless-Bastards -- but what if being so is the only way to survive in the Shadowy-Underworld??? I'm serious about certain qualified researchers studying this thread over a period of months and years -- again NOT because I'm smart or spiritual -- but because I don't think you'll find this mix of material in very many places -- tied together in the manner I've done it. I'm NOT promoting myself. I Am Promoting the Information and the Arrangement of That Information. I think it might avoid a lot of ditches and cliffs -- if you know what I mean. Once again, I have assumed certain online identities and characteristics which are NOT Me in Real-Life. This is Fantasy-Land. Please Remember That. I'm now going to do my best to NOT post online -- and to attempt to Look-Good and Make-Money in Real-Life in a Highly-Respectable Manner. I'm going to pretend this online and real-life fiasco NEVER Happened. If you talk to me -- don't expect me to say or do anything relative to the past few years. BTW -- I'm still not happy about all the sneaking-around, spying, and whispering behind my back -- and You Know What I'm Talking About. This whole thing should've remained Within This Website. All of this madness was NOT intended for the community I reside in. If I thought I had a case, I'd probably seek legal counsel -- but it might be fun to at least go through the DISCOVERY process (with Multiple FoIA's, an Attorney, an Exorcist, and a Private-Investigator) -- and I'm NOT Joking. Pro Bono Anyone?? You MIGHT be able to retire!! The Jokes are Over Folks. You'll have to get your laughs somewhere else. Good-luck solving all the problems -- and I sincerely mean that.

Just another Biblical thought -- which I think I've mentioned previously -- what if one focused upon Job, Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Song of Solomon, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Lamentations, Ezekiel, and Daniel -- or basically the Wisdom-Books and the Major-Prophets?? Does any religious group do this sort of thing?? What would the Jews say?? What would the Christians say?? What would all religions say?? What would atheists say?? What would agnostics say?? I've wondered about a Christianity which focused upon the Red-Letter Teachings of Jesus -- but what if this Ten Book Old Testament focus were sort of an Old Testament version of Red-Letter Christianity?? Something is very wrong with the church and state situation on this planet -- and I suspect this is by design -- just like I suspect a lot of things are not random accidents of coincidence and fate. Further -- what if one placed these ten books in the context of an Ancient Hebrew-Egypt?? One other study possibility was Deuteronomy, Job, Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Song of Solomon, Isaiah, Matthew, and the 1928 Book of Common Prayer -- as a Minimalist-Traditionalist Old-Testament Based Reformed-Catholic Christianity!! Isn't THAT a Mouthful??!! This option might be most interesting if it were conceptualized as being contained within Ancient-Egypt (complete with Ancient High-Technology)!! Imagine two, three, or four Sun-Gods arguing with each other concerning all of the above!! I still think that Religious and Political Historical Science Fiction might be a productive pursuit -- if and only if genuine truth-seeking were the goal. But I truly think that those who go this route might pay a rather high personal price. I believe that genuine truth-seeking is somewhat self-defeating and self-destructive -- and I'm not sure the Gods and Goddesses are thrilled by such activities. Once again, I think there are probably Gods and Goddesses who are a helluva lot smarter and tougher than we are -- yet they might not be what we might wish for them to be. There might be valid and legitimate reasons why they seem to Rule by Secrecy -- rather than being Open, Honest, and Visible. One last thought regarding Regimes and Changes -- Make Damn Sure That a Change is a Change for the Better -- Long-Term. Do NOT Jump Out of the Frying-Pan and Into the Fire. Think Long and Hard About What I Just Said. What if we really require a Bad@ss Sun God aka Solar System CEO?? What if the Gods and Goddesses in Stargate SG-1 are somewhat representative of the Solar Deities we are dealing with in real-life?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b365_qJEpDg  What if there is sort of a Papa Midnight's Club for Sun Gods on the Dark-Side of the Moon?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5H9fhHkhH4 What if they met at Mork 'n Orks Grey Bar?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9qAqwIW704 Shouldn't we consider even the most absurd possibilities on an ongoing basis?? Unfortunately, I'm finished doing this sort of thing in public. I've learned the hard-way that it just doesn't pay. This sort of thing just doesn't sell. It's NOT popular and respectable -- and it's way too painful and difficult. But I will create a Private-Hell for myself, wherein I agonize over the unthinkable. The Horror.

I appreciate people such as Manly P. Hall. I don't know that much about him -- but I respect esoteric-research -- if, and only if, it is done in the right way -- and for the right reasons. LOVE -- for me -- has digressed into trying to transform Purgatory Incorporated into Paradise Incorporated -- which might involve essentially the same Solar System Structure -- but with the highest ethical-standards -- and the most effective law-enforcement imaginable. I've been told that I should've left everything in the Lord's Hands -- and I still don't know what was meant by that. Should I look the other way when I see cruelty and corruption?? What if there are Many Lords -- Living in Many Mansions -- with Many Wives??? We might be surprised!! Should I conceptualize something between Purgatory Incorporated and Paradise Incorporated?? You know -- the System of Rewards and Punishments being Paradise Incorporated as the Reward -- and Purgatory Incorporated as the Punishment???!!! What if this exact system ALREADY EXISTS???!!! I don't have a problem with high-standards, hard-work, and efficient-accounting -- but this world (and probably the whole solar system) seems to be in HUGE Trouble (on so many levels). What would YOU do if YOU were the CEO of This Solar System??? What Would God Do??? Is it important to make sure that we have the Right God running things in this solar system?? Is it blasphemous to even ask that question??? But seriously, listening to Sherry Shriner, reading The Gods of Eden and Rule by Secrecy has tweaked my brain -- and that's without even touching my Great Controversy!!! I've tried to be quite nice in all of this madness -- and that hasn't seemed to work. I perceive that I've been taken advantage-of and laughed-at -- so perhaps that Final Chapter of The Great Controversy might have to play-out after-all. I love the best parts of that chapter -- and I had hoped to avoid the worst parts -- but things aren't looking so good. No one really seemed to lift their little-finger (or anything else) to really discuss this with me (in any sort of a meaningful way). The Ancient Egyptian Deity implied that this world might be Hell. They were visibly troubled when I began reading from the last chapter of The Great Controversy. Are we really dealing with some version of a conflict between Isis-Hathor and Amen Ra -- Two Ancient Egyptian Deities in Conflict with Each Other?? I'm conflicted regarding whether this is a Two-Way or a Three-Way Conflict. What would one call a God who despised Humanity?? Might a Very Traditional God (who opposed the creation of Humanity) be viewed by Humans as being Satan?? I realize this is a VERY loaded question -- but who one calls "God" or "Satan" might depend on location and perspective. I keep getting the feeling that we live in a very complex and messy universe -- and that things might not be what they seem to our simple Earth-Human Perspectives. What if the Gods and Goddesses fight with each other??!! What if they call each other names -- such as "Satan" and "The Devil"??!! Once again, consider all of the possibilities, all of the time -- even if it hurts. I've dealt with several Individuals of Interest -- yet I kept sensing that I was dealing with the Same Underlying Soul (in different forms). This goes for both the internet and real-life. I've also noticed strange behavior and strangely-familiar statements by those close to me (or somewhat close to me). If they can't get me one way -- they'll get me some other way -- or so it seems. This whole thing stinks on so many levels -- and when my life falls apart when I have to deal with this madness -- I am looked upon as being weak and messed-up -- and I am very seldom thanked for various insights, concerns, and efforts. If I didn't give a damn -- and just looked the other way -- I'd be doing just fine -- thank-you very much. The fact that I have considered some dark universal and theological possibilities should NOT be construed as meaning that I am a Dark-Soul. Just the opposite -- I have simply attempted to Shine a Bright Light Upon a Dark World. Sorry if that rendered some of you Spiritually-Blind. Sorry if that offends -- but it's just part of the act. Were You Fooled by a Completely Ignorant Fool???

Who does Planet Earth belong to?? Who does Earth's Moon belong to? Who does the Sun belong to?? Who do all of the other planets in this solar system belong to?? Who do the moons belong to?? Who owns the asteroids?? What laws apply throughout the solar system?? Should Earth-Humans leave Earth?? Should Earth-Humans leave this solar system?? If so -- where should they go -- and how would they get there?? Who does the Stolen-Technology belong to?? I frankly don't know who and/or what I am on a soul-basis. Am I fundamentally mammalian?? Am I fundamentally reptilian?? Am I fundamentally angelic?? Should Earth-Humans be exterminated?? Is this fundamentally a Reptilian-Universe?? Is this fundamentally a Mammalian-Universe?? Is this fundamentally an Angelic-Universe?? Would a United States of the Solar System solve this solar system's problems?? Would a United States of the Solar System reignite a Hot War in Heaven?? Should we implement Status Quo Ante Bellum in this solar system?? What are the specific roles of the Archangels Gabriel, Michael, and Lucifer in this solar system?? Should the Universe be a Universal-Theocracy -- with no freedom -- and no humans?? Are Human Beings an Illegal and Unwelcome Creation in this Universe?? I've tried to be neutral about all of this -- in a somewhat irreverent, flippant, and humorous way -- but no one really seems to have common-sense, or a sense of humor. I'm frankly thinking that if humans are properly managed, they can become a truly great-race -- and live in harmony with the other races of the universe -- but I'm just not seeing a proper discussion of these most important issues. Once again, I'm sensing a 'Hardline Anti-Human' Faction -- a 'Hardline Exploit the Humans' Faction -- and a Very Out of Power 'Moderate and Neutral' Faction which Reflects My United States of the Solar System Conceptualizations. The big problem for me is that I have NO Idea what's really going on -- or who I really am. This really doesn't seem fair. So much of this madness seems unreasonable and arbitrary -- just like a lot of the Old Testament Rules, Practices, and Warfare. This solar system truly seems insane to me. When I try to make sense out of the madness, this effort seems to be deeply resented by just about everyone. I truly think that Humans are a Recent and Unwelcome Creation in an Other Than Human Universe -- and that Humanity is Seeking a Governmental System which is Heresy to the rest of the Universe. What if the Roman Catholic Church really is part of a Truly Universal Church Theocracy?? Once again, this is not a nasty-attack. I am merely trying to understand what we are really dealing with. I continue to model an idealistic combination of the Roman-System, the British-System, the American-System, and the United-Nations System -- but I fear that my quest for a Dynamic-Equilibrium of Divine-Sovereignty and Human Responsible-Freedom is considered by most of the universe to be Damnable-Heresy of a Most Pestilential Nature. I'm sensing that we live in a Very Harsh, Traditional, and Arbitrary Universe -- which wishes to see this solar system returned to its Pre-Human Conditions (before the creation of the 'Talking-Monkeys'). 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPeRhWSVCJU 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK0LxkRB6aI Someone please reveal the Real-Deal. I HATE this stupid guessing-game.

magamud wrote:

Another great show.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZM4Ul2BCzIM

I appreciate the work of both Bill Cooper and Alex Jones -- but in very different ways -- and I can only expose myself to their material for short periods of time. I continue to wonder about the detrimental effects of non-stop exposure to the very upsetting areas of research covered by a lot of researchers -- including Bill and Alex. It wouldn't surprise me if a lot of these types of people turn out to be agents of various kinds -- and once again, I just take everything in -- use what I can -- and move on. I'm so screwed-up by all of this madness, that I'm trying to not deal with it anymore -- not directly anyway. It wouldn't surprise me if most people who are anybody -- work for somebody in the shadows. As Jester used to say "Who Do You Work For??!!" The Ancient Egyptian Deity told me that "in twenty years you'll be working for us". That didn't sound like a good thing to me -- but who knows?! I keep worrying about exchanging a bad-regime for an even worse regime. Modeling solar system governance has made me fear there is NO Good Way to Run a Solar System -- and that Good-Guys might really finish last in this nasty game. I asked the Ancient Egyptian Deity "How Good is Too Good??" They didn't have an answer -- and neither did I!! We seemed to know each other -- going way, way, way back!! That's what really scared me!! They seemed to like me and hate me -- simultaneously!! My present conceptualizations are more upsetting than I can handle -- and hence, I'm trying very hard to move on. I'm a regular listener to Sherry Shriner's show -- but I think I'm going to stop listening -- just because I think I'm stuck in a mucky and nasty rut, which I desperately need to get out of. I don't believe everything anyone says -- and I have even irreverently questioned the Gods and Goddesses. I truly think this sort of thing brings on supernatural attacks. It sure feels that way. I've "enjoyed" listening to Alex Jones, Bill Cooper, Sherry Shriner, Eric Jon Phelps, et al -- in a morbid-curiosity sort of way. I don't think this is healthy -- but I do think that some of us need to go down this sad road -- for a while, at least. I don't talk about any of this stuff in "real-life" -- and I'm trying very hard to stop talking about it in the Fantasy-Land of the Internet. There are probably some reprehensible aspects to solar system governance which will be present, regardless of which regime is dominant. Perhaps the best we can do is to understand the "Way Things Are" -- rather than changing things. I don't know. I just feel very, very small and powerless -- compared to the Secret Solar System Government (and it's visible agents and agencies). I think this is an extremely dangerous area of research -- and those who go down this road should keep their seatbelts fastened. I don't wish this madness on anyone -- and I have tried to limit my public activities to this site -- where I suspect that 90% of the participants are a lot further down the rabbit-hole than I am. A coworker of mine just died -- and it sort of makes my 'quest' seem silly, insignificant, and useless. I didn't help this coworker in his final days -- and I feel very guilty and negligent for not doing so. The 'quest' sort of took over. This isn't a good-thing -- to say the least.

I am not necessarily opposed to a lot of the secret stuff -- but I always get the sinking feeling that there is a rogue-faction which is completely out of control -- and extremely dangerous. My United States of the Solar System conceptualizations have been my feeble attempt to at least fantasize about a happy and harmonious solar system of high-technology, and highly-ethical law and order. I keep harping back to my horrifying hypothesis that humanity is a race the universe doesn't want -- and that we might be worse than cattle in the eyes of most of the universe. Mind-you -- I wasn't brought up this way -- yet underlying my religious education was this very concept (in a somewhat hidden form). One has to become a heretic, lose their faith, and go partially-insane, to start grasping how much trouble we might really be in. I keep thinking that the secret factions are mostly just greedy-bastards -- yet there might be genuine fear as well. They MIGHT be fighting the legitimate governments of the world (if any actually exist) -- plus, they might be fighting some really bad@ss alien and/or angelic/demonic forces. I keep thinking that the real truth about how this solar system works is really bad. I'm so sorry for being a stick in the mud -- and for being a party-pooper -- but I am simply attempting to arrive at the simplest and most accurate version of the way things are in the world, solar system, and universe. Unfortunately, this is making me very, very unhappy and non-productive. I don't think I'm crazy presently (even though it might seem like it) -- but I think I might go crazy at a later date -- and I might go down really, really hard. That wouldn't surprise me one little bit -- so follow my internet-posting -- but don't follow me personally. What seem to be supernatural-attacks, seem to be getting worse and worse. I'm also experiencing continuing hostility in 'real-life'. I know I'm paranoid -- yet on some level -- I really think they are out to get me -- yet they seem to mostly be allowing me to hang myself. They just seem to keep feeding me more rope. In many ways, I think I'm hanging myself because I wish to be both honest and invisible. If one doesn't care what happens to themselves -- and just free-styles within the relative freedom of the internet -- they can probably cover a lot more ground than they could if they were trying to "get somewhere" or maintain an "image". It's sort of like "I didn't get the damn job -- so now I'm going to tell you what I really think, @sshole!!!" Sorry for being so blunt and graphic!! I'm really NOT that kind of guy!! Just the opposite!! I've been trying to stop posting for years -- and I never can!! I've been watching several YouTube music videos, with tens of millions of views!! One has over one-hundred million views!! But when it comes to what is posted on this (and similar) websites, the interest is pretty lame -- and often the comments are even more lame!! On one level, this world seems to be quite sophisticated -- yet on another level, the really important subjects are handled rather poorly. I can frankly see why this world is ruled by secrecy -- even though I HATE that concept. It's repugnant!! Perhaps I might meet some of you on the Moon someday -- but I don't know if that would be a good thing, if we found ourselves on the Moon!! I think that Deep-Research of Troubling-Subjects is a pretty lonely road -- but perhaps we should be thankful that people are not dealing with this madness. They might not be ready for it yet -- which is why I just privately research, speculate, and post on this relatively small website.

What if Solomon and Jesus turn out to be the same soul?? Again, try to follow key-souls throughout history -- but don't be surprised by anything!! History might be messier and nastier than we can possibly imagine!! Think long and hard about Lilith, Adam, and Eve -- Isis, Moses, and Aaron -- Isis, Ra, and El -- Isis, David, and Solomon -- Isis, Horus, and Set -- Mary, Jesus, and Paul -- Father, Son, and Holy Spirit -- Gabriel, Michael, and Lucifer -- ???????? I'm not implying equivalencies here. I'm just suggesting taking a closer look. Once again, look at how the prayers and collects in the 1928 Book of Common Prayer are ended!! I don't know if that means anything or not -- but I find it quite unsettling!! The Ancient Egyptian Deity asked me if I thought I were the one hanging on the cross in a crucifix?! I didn't think so -- and I don't think so!! However, whoever is depicted as hanging high above the altar does NOT seem to be in favor or in power -- in any way, shape, or form!! There is something creepy about the Sacrificial System, the Substitutionary Atonement, Animal Sacrifices, Human Sacrifices, the Crucified Christ, the Sacrifice of the Mass, and Transubstantiation. I suspect a Very Dark Hidden History and Reality in connection with all of this -- going way, way, way back. I love the devotional and artistic aspects of the Latin Mass -- yet I remain very troubled by the details. Enough Said About THAT. On the other hand -- consider the 1928 Book of Common Prayer with Deuteronomy, Job, Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Song of Solomon, Isaiah, Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Acts, Romans, and Hebrews printed in their entirety -- along with the 1940 Hymnal. Further, consider this expanded version in both Latin and English (or in Latin, with the English translation included within the text, or in parallel columns)!! Then, what if all of the above were combined with the basic form of the Latin Mass (with Spoken-English and Sung-Latin)??!! What if the larger Roman Catholic Churches used this model for an additional service, which might be referred to as a Protestant Mass??!! Wouldn't THAT be a can of worms??!! Shouldn't Protestantism attempt to stay as close to Catholicism as it possibly can (in good conscience)?? Should Protestantism degenerate into "Anything Goes"?? If you haven't already, please read Exo-Vaticana by Tom Horn and Chris Putnam. I'm sure the church doesn't like it, but it fits in well with this particular website and thread. I'm really neither Friend or Foe of the Church. Once again, I often think of myself as being a Renegade French Jesuit Organist (even though this is rather inaccurate)!! I'm not even close to that description externally -- although I am somewhat that way internally!! I think this world is ruled by some very powerful beings -- who have worldly agents doing business for them -- such as the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds. I hate to say it, but if it weren't them, it would be someone else. Same goes for bad (and good) presidents. They seem to mostly be employees of those previously mentioned very powerful beings. We might be more screwed than we can imagine. I'm mostly trying to understand, rather than change things -- at least for now.

Imagine, for a moment, the Queen of Sheba writing and speaking the Song of Solomon, Job, Psalms, Proverbs, Isaiah, Christ's Object Lessons (E.G. White), Romans, Hebrews, and Ecclesiastes (KJV with an Ethiopian/English Accent -- in that order) -- in the Context of the New York Queen-Ship in the Latest Version of "V"!!! I am a bit different -- aren't I?! Read all of the above -- straight-through -- over and over -- with a Queen of Sheba mental-voice OR you might wish to try this out-loud (hopefully somewhere where no one will become angry with you)!! Think very, very deeply about this particular combination and order!! What if the Queen of Sheba (on a soul-basis) really DID write all of the above??!! What if this soul is also responsible for most of the Gothic-Architecture and Sacred Classical Music?? What if this soul invented sex??!! Would all of the above constitute a System of Intellectual-Philosophy, with Sensuality as It's Sphere?? I should stop!! Note especially what I did with what I consider to be the Cream of the Gospels -- and the Cream of the Writings of Ellen White!! I didn't do that lightly -- but it really fits in well with those particular Books of the Bible (in that particular order)!! You might have to really agonize over that one for a while!!  I sure did!! I have been attempting to think the God's and Goddess's thoughts after them, throughout this thread!! BTW -- those should be upper and lower case "G's" -- which would include the Real-Deal -- as well as the Angry and Jealous Gods and Goddesses!!! I met someone the other day, who reminded me of a composite of Rachel Constantine (in Contact), Lilly (in Star Trek: First Contact), https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3RNsZvdYZQ and some other interesting individuals who fit in with the general theme of this thread (whatever THAT means)!! I met a similar individual quite some time ago, in the very same place. I don't wish to be more specific -- but if you read between the lines, I think you might know what I'm talking about. You know -- someone who is very understated, very intelligent, and very articulate -- and who you would NOT want to cross!! What if God Really is Fundamentally a Black Woman??!! Think about the theological implications and ramifications of the movie Dogma!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20CRw3XdETA I think I might've encountered another Rufus and a very young Last Scion!! Think Long and Hard About This Entire Post!! Now, I think I need to install some new windows on my home -- and clean-house!! A Perfect-Storm is Forecast!! Enough Said!! You might legitimately object to my methodology -- but honestly -- could I have really made my point with a Devotional-Book or a Doctoral-Dissertation???? If you wish to see God in a negative light, read the First-Dozen Books of the Bible -- and the Book of Revelation -- not to mention Church History. God is sometimes portrayed as being a Mean Old Man. Take another look at the Sistine Chapel. I'm trying to make a case for at least one God possibly being somewhat like the Queen of Sheba, Isis, Cleopatra, Mary, the Black Madonna, the Queen of England, Diana and Anna (in "V") -- and possibly being an Archangelic Queen of Heaven. My theory being that we might be dealing with a three-way War in Heaven between three Archangelic Queens of Heaven named Gabriel, Michael, and Lucifer -- and that on a very ancient basis -- they might be Reptilian Queens. I realize this is Abominable and Damnable Heresy -- but I continue to think that we should consider all possibilities -- regardless of how upsetting they might be. I continue to consider that I might be the worst of the worst (on a reincarnation-basis) going way, way, way back. Just an afterthought. What if Amen Ra led the Exodus against Isis -- and then Isis (in the form of the Queen of Sheba) regained power over Solomon -- but ruled secretly?? Who knows?? I sure don't!! I just think that the real solar system secrets are very hidden, dark, and nasty!! Tough to experience -- but the makings of some fine science-fiction!! BTW -- can you imagine EBE exclaiming "I Am NOT a Potted-Plant (Even Though I Am Chlorophyll-Based)!!" in the Final-Judgment??!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzWwNawZdCg What Would Guermo Mendoza Say?? What Would Bill Cooper Say?? Think About It!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jd_0ZChHmY Here is a revised study-list or focus-list:

1. Song of Solomon.
2. Job.
3. Psalms.
4. Proverbs.
5. Isaiah.
6. Desire of Ages by Ellen G. White.
7. Romans.
8. Hebrews.
9. Ecclesiastes.
10. 1928 Book of Common Prayer.
11. Federalist Papers.
12. Christ's Object Lessons by Ellen G. White.
13. Believe in the God Who Believes in You by Robert H. Schuller.
14. The Gospel According to Science Fiction by Gabriel McKee.
15. Exo-Vaticana by Chris Putnam and Thomas Horn.
16. The Gods of Eden by William Bramley.
17. Gothic Architecture and Sacred Classical Music.
18. Astronomy, Biology, Chemistry, History, Law, Theology.
19. Nature and Athletics.
20. Paradise Incorporated v Purgatory Incorporated.

This is NOT a My Way or the Highway approach. This is merely a place of beginning. If I were ever involved in City-State discussions regarding the future of Humanity in this Solar System -- I would wish to cover this territory in great detail. Once again, I'm flying-blind, and I have no idea who and/or what we're really dealing with -- and I have no idea who I really am (on a reincarnation-basis) despite my speculation and modeling. If a secret society ever brought me into the fold -- they would be quickly angered and disillusioned by my lack of respect and loyalty. I seriously imagine myself spending 99% of my time in two very small apartment/offices -- one under the City of London -- and the other under the Dark-Side of the Moon -- basically doing what I'm doing right now -- except with immaculate housekeeping and sophisticated supercomputers. I've seriously let myself go -- sort of like Gabriel in The Prophecy!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gia8EZkBDc4 I think the stakes are extremely high -- but I have no idea who I am, or what to do. You have NO idea what I REALLY think about. I often imagine a long history of Star Wars and Power Struggles. In such a context, the Absolute Authority of a Supreme Commander would be essential to survival -- yet once a New World or New Earth were conquered, Absolute Obedience and God's Prerogative might backfire, and cause the Rank and File to Revolt. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgaWmIdxU_4 Think long and hard about what I just said. I truly think there are Gods and Goddesses in this universe -- yet they might not be what we might wish for them to be. Even if 90% of 90% of the theologies are utter bullshit -- this doesn't mean that there are not underlying theological realities which are very, very real. Please consider reading Job, Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Song of Solomon, Isaiah, Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Acts, and Romans -- straight through -- over and over again -- in the imagined context of the apartment/offices I just mentioned. In all of this internet madness -- I have NOT waged war upon anyone. This has been sort of a "Discovery-Process" -- but it has torn me apart nearly every day for the past few years. As a teenager, I knew something was horribly wrong -- and not just with the world as a whole. Something was very wrong with the institutions tasked with "saving the world". I sort of took a couple of steps backward -- to try to see the "big-picture" -- and I seemed to fall off the edge of the world. I didn't like the view -- and I never recovered. Things just kept getting worse and worse. What really scared me was seeing some of the best and brightest theologians and pastors looking very, very disillusioned and defeated during the 1980's. Despite everything, I still think that the Bible might be a very deep and complex puzzle to solve. I once heard Chuck Swindoll (at his church -- not on the radio) seem to say that the Bible needed to be completely solved, before we could move on. I'm not sure if he said it quite that way -- but that was the impression I got. I heard Robert H. Schuller (at his church -- not on television) say that it was time to move on -- and I think I know what he meant by that. He offered a fresh and new alternative to the old and negative Traditional Biblical approach. Unfortunately, something was very wrong with BOTH approaches.

I frankly think that there might not be a good and right way to do politics and religion. This infowar might get worse than we can possibly imagine -- and when certain factions and individuals get exposed and deposed -- they might retaliate in some unbelievably destructive ways. I am very, very afraid. I really am. I fear that we might truly be on the brink of extinction. But Siriusly, even if the whole damn solar system gets turned into one big asteroid-belt -- this has been sort of fun -- hasn't it??? Please say 'YES"!! In many ways, it's been so sad, that it's almost been funny!! Almost. Perhaps I should just let this go. You get the idea from what I've posted so far. Do I really need to post all of those Books of the Bible?? Would anyone read them?? That's a good one!! I'm not saying to not read the rest of the Bible. I'm just saying that the approach presented in this thread might be highly valuable to the right researchers. I'm sort of going underground, because I think this world is going completely opposite the direction I'm going. I think I might've been sent here to do specific tasks -- which I probably didn't do. Two tasks come to mind: 1. Preaching Daniel and Revelation. 2. Ending the World. Wasn't THAT a strange thing to say??!! I just wish to make it perfectly clear that Ethics, Law, and Order are near (or at the top) of my "To Do List" -- and that a lot of what is in the Bible and the Church does NOT seem ethical to me. Further, I support Incarceration, Work, and Education -- rather than Extermination and Damnation. I guess I like the idea of a Nice and Tight Solar System Ship -- with Structure and Discipline -- but NO Cruel and Unusual Punishment. One more thing -- what if those Five Books I was supposed to have written were turned into Sixty-Six Books??!! But what if the other Thirty-Two Books are necessary for those Five-Books to really make sense???!!! I have NO idea!! However, the Ancient Egyptian Deity seemed to say that there was a HUGE amount of withheld information in and around the Vatican -- and that I had historically been supportive of humanity -- and that I supported the concept of grappling with scripture, rather than imposing orthodoxy (or something like that). They seemed to say that humanity should not have been saved -- and that people deserved to die. They seemed to say that Theocratic and Socialistic Rule worked much better than our human attempts at freedom. They also seemed to say that Other-Than-Human Beings were vastly superior to Human-Beings. Once, as I talked to them on the phone, I got the impression that they were either in a Spaceship or a DUMB -- and I thought I heard an Other-Than-Human in the background!! I said to say "HELLO" to them!! Enough Said!! I'm honestly not making this stuff up!! But now I'm honestly going to try to stop posting one more time!! You have your homework!! Study hard -- and see what YOU think!! Imagine Zo'or and Da'an (from Earth: Final Conflict) ruling Earth from the Dark-Side of the Moon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAHJcWjbq1M What if this is sort of how things have been for thousands of years? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLiFtOUsVUY What if Job and the Gospels are Historical-Fiction?? Would this mean 'No God -- and No Salvation'?? I think not. I think we need to grow-up as a civilization -- and stop acting like children. But if we are treated as children -- we'll probably keep acting like children. I continue to think that all options are highly flawed -- and that the people of the world will be highly upset -- no matter what changes are made (or not made). What if there are three Christs?? Gabriel-Christ -- Michael-Christ -- and Lucifer-Christ?? What if (in antiquity) they were a lot like Ra in Stargate (complete with disk and horns headgear)? What if there were three Sun-Gods -- and only One Sun?? There can be only One Ra -- right?? Might that be what the War in Heaven was (and is) all about?? Three Fundamentally Differing Approaches to Physicality and Governance?? Might there be One Arrogant God Surrounded by Angry and Jealous Gods?? The following is an illustration of a previous proposal (which I have withdrawn). Wouldn't this make EVERYONE livid with rage??!! Still -- it might make for some interesting science-fiction -- don't you think??!!

God

King and Queen

United States of the Solar System (3,333 Representatives) --- Solar System Council of Churches (3,333 Representatives) --- Solar System Supreme Court (3,333 Justice-Representatives)

The United States of the Solar System might be a cross between the City-States (with an emphasis on the United States of America) -- the United Nations -- and the Secret Government. The Solar System Council of Churches might be the Prime Solar System Watchdogs and Advisors (but without direct authority and power). The Solar System Supreme Court might prove to be the Real Solar System Backbone (with the Perfect Laws of the Lord -- and Very Little Turnover). The King and Queen might be Glorified-Versions of the Pope of Rome and the Queen of England. God might be a Glorified-Version of the Best of All of Us. He and/or She might just sit back and enjoy the show -- showing-up only when necessary -- and laying-down the law only when absolutely necessary -- as an Authority of Last Resort. Would this model properly observe the 'Sovereignty of God' and 'Responsible Human Freedom'?? This is tricky territory -- to say the least. What if the following image were of God (Resting on the Sabbath)??!! How might one define and observe the Sabbath on the Moon?? "Remember to ALWAYS Have a Sabbath-Attitude. I Am of Peace. Always."

Just for the record -- I aspire to be a combination of orthodoxymoron (fictional), Palmer Joss (fictional), 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFcHpamkHII 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcqaHxI5-P8 Ellie Arroway (fictional), https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SbKE_U4b7U Rachel Constantine (fictional -- hard to find any clips or images -- interesting!!), https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVn90-83NQQ S.R. Hadden (fictional), https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k30TU1qFK_4  and Jack MacDonald (non-fictional). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ORRNGigGwE I could've used many other names -- but those just popped into my mind. In other words (and other worlds), I'd love to be a Philanthropic Galactic Jack MacDonald -- and I sincerely hope that in other lifetimes I have been (and will be) just that. I'm really not kidding about that 600 square-foot office-apartment -- but I have no idea where it should appropriately be. Perhaps it might need to be inside of one of those Piloted Bad@ssteroids (with superluminal and intergalactic capabilities)!!! "He Rarely Lands for Anyone!!" Perhaps I should be careful what I ask for!! 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6oD0tZVrRg 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0K46C82v9o I Truly Love ALL of You. It Is Finished. Now I Can at Least Try to Go Back to Some Form of Normal. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsTBbAMikPQ This Was a Test. This Was Only a Test. I am unbelievably embarrassed and traumatized by this mess. I just hope those with greater stability and resources can benefit in some way from my madness -- which is hopefully temporary. Sorry for the Misunderstanding. One More Thing. I don't know if I have a claim on anything, or not, but I claim that which is rightfully mine (in the broadest and deepest sense of that sentence) -- in a timely, proper, and appropriate manner. What a strange thing to say!! Namaste and Godspeed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1B1EAeh6H_I

Two Archangelic Ancient Egyptian Deities in Symbolic and Representational Form??
Never Stop Thinking About the University of Solar System Studies and Governance!!
Never Stop Thinking About Innovative Theological Conceptualizations!!  
Never Stop Thinking About the United States of the Solar System!!
Never Stop Thinking About Archangelic Queens of Heaven!!
Never Stop Thinking About Gabriel, Michael, and Lucifer!!
Never Stop Thinking About Thinking!!
Never Stop Thinking!!

Eartheart wrote:

We have come around this battlefield telepathy in nonlocal fashion,
have told your MF to stand aside & "decist", now you're down & emptyed,
infiltrations cleared, Mars & DUMBS gone awry, funds/transvers locked,
greys imploded, reptor bases raided, all of 3Dim fearless now and we united,
your inner and outer domains virtualy are beyond duration date, timeout!!!
     
While some see the prophecied ID-Split this week, which would leave you
to your own nightmares, i hereby agree with our omnidim consensus de facto,
leaving your darkly enteties not even that mercy seats, no further ID, no realm
to spook on, no lifeforces to feed your loops of reverse coded oscillations,
as your Mpires made from objectable thoughts and memory-layers will be poofed
beyond your wildest imagery. We're uncreating your realms. As side effect...  

orthodoxymoron wrote:

Eartheart wrote:If we depart from the primary idea that this whole 3d-life we are experiencing on this planet is one big illusion, it is logical to conclude that its expected abolition in the current End Times cannot be achieved by making structural – social, economic and political – changes and reforms within this illusion. The whole illusion must be eliminated at one fell swoop. Similar we've here the reason why Oxy's hickup makes him spin like a western dervish around the sun... What if Oxy want to become the second son/sun?

Who and What existed prior to the creation of Male and Female Human Physicality?? Who created Humanity -- and Why?? I keep hearing Extermination-Language. Is the Extermination of Humanity the Final Solution to the Great Controversy Between Christ and Satan in the Conflict of the Ages?? If a Pristine 1958 Ferrari 250 TR needs a tune-up -- should it be destroyed?? (Good luck synchronizing those 12 carburators!) If someone has a tooth-ache -- should they be murdered?? Should the beings who have been screwing-up this solar system and the human race for thousands of years -- then turn around and destroy the solar system and the human race -- because the solar system and the human race are screwed-up?? Read the Old Testament, the Book of Revelation, the 'Gods of Eden', and the 'Great Controversy'. This is NOT a pretty picture. What's wrong with this picture? BTW -- I simply enjoy watching and commenting.

mattpresti wrote:From the blog at http://blog.thesecretoflight.com/

Thanks Carol.  i would like to offer this piece i wrote.  Much love to you all and see you on the Northern side of the Milky way.  Across the great ecliptic.  AHO...matt

2012 - The Conscious Choice
by matt presti

Here we are fast approaching the most mysterious point of existence perhaps our humanity has ever known.  No matter what happens, no matter what has been predicted, and no matter what we all feel personally about this period of time, we must ever remember, that the “old way” of life (war, greed, killing, taking, voluntary slavery) must come to an end if we are to “make” anything of a new world for ourselves.  New thought must preSEED new form.

More than anything, this time is a chance; a chance for real change upon this planet, within this human race.  No changes of human behavior have ever come without agitation.  The desire must be kindled as it has been over the last 50 years or better.  The desire must initiate action as it has over the last 50 years and more.  We have seen the rise of human consciousness with intent to “make” changes a part of our daily affairs.  Our dealings with other men must have balance in them.  Our interchanges with each other must be equal in the knowing that we promote the balance of Universal Brotherhood and Sisterhood upon Spaceship Earth and stop creating “violence” through beliefs.

The Mayan calendar, the warnings of prophets and visions of tribal elders from antiquity foresaw great upheaval in man's world at this time.  The breaking of control systems before our eyes, and the ever mantric threat of new forms of human behavioral control by “the powers that were” through more and more disgusting displays of imbalance that only become more odious and hideous with every law passed beckons for our participation in throwing off the chains of our voluntary slavery and at last standing together as one race of Humanity; rising up and declaring with one single voice “WE ARE NO LONGER GOING TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS BARBARIC SYSTEM!”

We have jointly re-declared our right to sovereignty over ourselves and recognize no other authorities as valid entities in our collective eyes.  The Creator gives man this inalienable right to declare his intent through the mutual desire to “LIVE FREE” Universally.  Those who do not head our call be warned.  You stand in the way of the intent and desire of the Creator, and of His Creation whom fully intend to manifest our Creator with purpose in this world.  Millions of years of progression toward this purpose cannot be stopped by anyone.  It is suicidal folly to attempt to stop this natural progression.   You will only hurt yourself if you resist mankind's destiny.  Nothing can stop our right and desire to LIVE FREE!  IF YOU REFUSE TO CHANGE THEN GET OUT OF OUR WAY!

In these last days of the 5th sun, no matter what happens, no matter whose predictions come to pass or do not, no matter what we believe or do, one thing is clear from here on out.  WE CONSCIOUSLY CREATE OUR WORLD TOGETHER WITH INTENT.  ALL MEN ARE EXTENSIONS OF THE ONE CREATOR AND THEREFOR ARE EXTENSIONS OF EACH OTHER.  WHAT YOU DO TO ANOTHER YOU DO TO YOURSELF.  WE HAVE THE POWER TO CREATE THE WORLD WE DESIRE.  WE MUST STAND FOR WHAT WE MAKE—FOR WE MAKE IT IN OUR OWN IMAGE.  MAKE IT GOOD.

Babylon - The SOL Project

Carol wrote:

http://www.blacklistednews.com/Global_Governance_Begins_on_December_14/22905/0/38/38/Y/M.html

Global Governance Begins On December 14

The International Telecommunications Union (ITU), an imprint of the UN, is holding its World Conference on International Telecommunications (WCIT) from December 3-14, 2012. The stated purpose of the WCIT is to update the UN’s “global treaty” on telecommunications to deal more directly and comprehensively with the internet. Knowing who controls the UN, it is not hard to see that a primary aim of the updated “treaty” will be to give credence to the regulation and monitoring of online activity in ways that are desirable to the (authoritarian) majority of member states.

Since we last updated our global telecommunications regulations, the internet, operating in a relatively unregulated environment, has grown by leaps and bounds, as human productive endeavors when left unregulated have an annoying tendency to do. Therefore, in order to keep this wildly successful communications network from getting any farther ahead of our regulatory apparatus, it is time to develop a strong, binding framework to limit internet growth, use, and activity in ways deemed necessary by those UN member states, such as China, Russia, and Iran, that are opposed on principle to unrestricted international communication, on the grounds that it tends to foster an informed and rebellious population.

In sum, authoritarian regimes with a vested interest in limiting public access to the outside world, or monitoring and censoring communications for “sensitive” content, are beginning to question whether the ITU is a sufficient guarantor of their control over their inmates with regard to global communication. If we do not act now to “demonstrate our capacity to respond adequately,” our “pre-eminent role in global telecommunications” — i.e., our role as facilitator of the statist status quo — will be challenged. In other words, if Vladimir thinks we are not serving his interests anymore, he will get angry, and no one wants to see Vladimir angry.

It’s all about control.  Control entails everything, money, power, everything.  It still gets me that something like money, a piece of paper, can turn people into hellish murdering creatures.  It is said that Satan fell to Earth and it is here where he reigns.  I can’t argue with that assumption because Earth is a hellish place to be.  Mankind, the epitome of gods creations, are killing, raping, starving each other to deathover money and toys and sex and whatever.  Our society, our civilization is no more far advanced than Rome. ~Ophelia

orthodoxymoron wrote:

enemyofNWO wrote:" Brzezinski: “Populist Resistance” is Derailing the New World Order "

SNIP
Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
November 26, 2012

During a recent speech in Poland, former US National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski warned fellow elitists that a worldwide “resistance” movement to “external control” driven by “populist activism” is threatening to derail the move towards a new world order. Calling the notion that the 21st century is the American century a “shared delusion,” Brzezinski stated that American domination was no longer possible because of an accelerating social change driven by “instant mass communications such as radio, television and the Internet,” which have been cumulatively stimulating “a universal awakening of mass political consciousness.” The former US National Security Advisor added that this “rise in worldwide populist activism is proving inimical to external domination of the kind that prevailed in the age of colonialism and imperialism.” END SNIP

Even here at The Mist we are making a difference to derail the Current version of the NWO from achieving success . So I don't think that the programs of the current creeps in charge like agenda 21 and the Chip are going to happen. The EU is printing money  by the billions and every day 200 Italian business are closing down . Very soon Italy will be uncontrollable because everything is falling apart , Heath system , schools , government  of regions , central etc. ect.

According to Bill Cooper -- Henry Kissinger and Zbigniew Brzezinski were Jason Scholar study-group directors in the 1950's -- when a lot of elites were learning about the 'Alien Presence'. I wonder if the 'External Domination' Zbigniew refers to is 'Alien Presence Domination'?? I continue to speculate about the possibility that the Human Race has Reptilian Roots -- and that we have been managed by the Reptilian Aspect of Us for thousands of years -- for better or worse. I'm frankly extremely apprehensive regarding our future -- regardless of who rules -- and regardless of how they do it. I'm frankly sensing an impending meltdown in this solar system -- which might get extremely nasty. I've been told online that 'You Can't Rule Yourselves', 'This is NOT Your Planet', and that 'The Most Intelligent Life on Earth is NOT Human'. What if these three seemingly 'alien' comments are TRUE??? I'm frankly attempting to think from BOTH a Reptilian and a Human perspective -- even though I don't really know if Reptilians exist. What might it be like to attend Solar System Governance Board Meetings with Reptilians, Greys, Interdimensional-Spirits, and Humans present??? If I continue with this type of modeling -- the possibility exists that I might not retain what little sanity I have left -- and I am being very serious. I am literally a 'walking warzone'.

I am NOT opposed to the RIGHT kind of Centralized Solar System Governance -- but I fear that the one we MIGHT'VE had for thousands of years is NOT nice. But really, we might not live in a nice universe. I simply wish for this solar system to be governed in a reasonable and rational manner -- with a minimum of drama and panic. Solar System Governance should be the most boring activity imaginable -- at least to the casual observer. What if the 'War Against the New World Order' is orchestrated by the New World Order?? Might the 'State Secession Movement' be orchestrated by the New World Order to destroy the legitimate and constitutional United States of America?? Incidentally, I like watching Alex Jones documentaries to help me figure out what's really going on in this country, world, and solar system -- but I have to be very careful not to get caught-up in the anger and the tendency toward anarchy and mob-rule. This is VERY tricky territory. If there is any sort of anarchy, social-meltdown, running in the streets, martial law, or uncivil war -- I suspect that it was planned years (or decades) in advance by the PTB (human and otherwise). I've gotten rather jaded and cynical about a lot of things. I keep getting the sinking feeling that the industrial and technological revolution was orchestrated in an irresponsible manner which might've maximized profit and development on some covert level. In some ways, it seems as if this world is being run into the ground -- as if there is no tomorrow for humanity. I keep sensing that there's a schedule in some underground base -- detailing the controlled-demolition of the human race. I so hope that I'm wrong.

BTW, what was that very tense and official sounding phone call all about, a little over a year ago, when the AED asked me a series of questions, informing me that the conversation was being recorded, and that others were listening?? My 'Sabbath' answer probably needed context and explanation. I suspect a 'Sabbath Doctrine' which predates the Creation of Humanity, and I am NOT rebellious toward the basic Sabbath Principle, but I am very uneasy with the Decalogue -- in the Context of the Pentateuch -- as being the Ethical Pinnacle in Modernity. Once again, consider the '1928 Book of Common Prayer', the 'Desire of Ages', the 'Federalist Papers', and Sacred Classical Music as being starting-points for theological and political conversations (especially in the context of liturgical-churches with gothic-architecture). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn-eaexrbWY&list=UUXkl-vz7DAVCzd7hpMMhSHg&index=1 (auto-play) I am reasonable -- and I am NOT retentive. I Am NOT Anti God -- Just Anti Bad-God. A Good God Should Probably be at the Center of Solar System Governance. Also, is there some sort of a 'Council of Seven'?? If so -- who might they be?? Who might be ChairBeing of the Board?? I once heard what seemed to be Other-Than-Human Beings, while I spoke with the AED on the phone. I told the AED to say 'Hello' to these beings. I had just posted some rather graphic 'alien' images on this thread (which are now 'dead' links). I tended to get called after doing that sort of thing. Remember when Raven reamed me?? The AED and I talked about that incident the day after it occurred!! The AED said that sort of thing wouldn't happen again. The AED was 'angry and jealous' and they 'didn't have to sleep'. Think about it. The AED once told me that I'd never 'figure it out'. Another time, the AED told me that 'I had done it with You Tube'. What if I invented the internet -- and Al Gore claimed credit?? Just Kidding. Siriusly, Who Invented the Fancy Technology?? Was It Stolen?? I suspect that it was. Will Justice Prevail?? I Doubt It. The AED told me they had 'Always Remained One Step Ahead of Humanity'. They said that I was one of two humans they considered to be friends -- and that they considered the rest of humanity to be minions. The AED liked the Latin Mass -- but hated Christians and the Roman Catholic Church!! They thought that people (including women and children) deserved to die in the Roman Colosseum. The AED was dark and sinister -- in a charming and likeable manner. We discussed galactic affairs several times at local coffee-shops!! It was sort of like Bartleby and Loki at the airport in 'Dogma'. Or was it more like 'Pinky and the Brain', 'Zo'or and Da'an', 'Liam and Da'an', or 'Classified and Classified'??? I'm only relating this because so much time has passed since we spoke -- and because the audience is so limited here on this forum. I do NOT wish to make a big deal about this. I just wanted some select portions of our encounter to be 'on the record' in a very informal manner. I am extremely apprehensive and troubled regarding this matter. As I typed the last couple of sentences -- one of those wisps of white-light passed between the monitor and myself. It was probably my monitor or watcher telling me to 'shut-up'. I've said WAY too much in this paragraph. What Would KRLLL Say?? http://krlll.com/

I think we are in DEEP trouble regarding advanced technology combined with a malevolent and covert technocracy-theocracy. When this REALLY kicks in -- most people will have NO idea what's happening -- and those who do will probably be reeducated, liquidated, etc. Watch the 'Absolute Power' episode of 'Stargate SG-1' for a clue as to how wrong things can go when advanced technology is in the worst of hands. The Goa'uld-Enhanced Daniel Jackson reminded me of the Ancient Egyptian Deity. If I had been vibrating faster -- and if I had been more respectable -- I might've ended up going along for the ride like Jack O'Neill. Just a thought. I continue to think that we are at an extremely dangerous crossroads -- and I have become a full-time delusional and nervous worrier. It's a good thing that I don't smoke, drink, or take drugs. Damn-it! I forgot to take my medicine again. Dr. Mataros is going to be very angry with me -- and you NEVER want to anger Dr. Mataros. What Would Jack Kavorkian Say? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzSPix-JU3o BTW -- has anyone noticed the living reptilian eyes within the black mask during the opening credits of 'Stargate SG-1'?!

I wonder if they could apply the pig's sexual gifts (30 minute long orgasms) to humans via some sort of transplantation?! "Oink!! Oink!! Oink!! Oink!! WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!" "How's THAT for 'Trans-Humanism'?!" 'That Was Fun!! Let's Do It Again!!' '30 minutes of pleasure -- 9 months of pain -- a quick trip to the doctor -- and out came Jane!!' I know they use pig-skin for pig to human skin-grafts -- and pig heart-valves for human heart-valve replacement surgery. I once attended a lecture where Dr. Leonard Bailey showed pictures of the 'Baby Fae' Baboon to Human heart-transplant surgery. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_Fae Cyclosporin could not overcome ABO barrier problems -- unfortunately. The joke in the Bay Area is 'I Left My Heart in Palo Alto'!! (at Stanford) I heard about some guy who got his you know what rebuilt using part of one of his ribs in a surgical reconstructive procedure called an 'addadicktome'. When he healed, they let him out of Bellevue Hospital in NYC for a six-hour trial. He came back three days later, exclaiming 'Doc!! You gotta get one of these!!!' (Source is 'The Making of a Surgeon' by William Nolan) When an electrode stimulating the sexual-center of a rat's brain was implanted -- and actuated via a lever in the cage -- the rat eventually lay down on the lever!!! BTW -- Pavlov Was a Dog!! Once, when 'Rufus' ('Dogma') asked me how I was doing -- I answered 'For Me -- Life is Just One Big Orgasm!!!' Another time, he asked me the same question, and I answered 'I'm Stuck on F!@#$d!!' 'Rufus' had the best Sci-Fi Comics!! He told me about the 'Excrementals' in 'Dogma' before I had even heard of 'Dogma'!! He once mentioned something about 'Opening Up My Third-Eye'. He also told me about an Egyptian movie where an Alpha Raven or Crow arrogantly exclaimed 'KAA!!' So every time I saw 'Rufus' I'd look at him out of the corner of my eye and then defiantly exclaim 'KAA!!' Remember that Alanis was quiet, crazy, and funny -- and was a female hidden in a male body. Interesting.

Consider the concept of a Highly Ethical and Highly Competent Nazi-Mason-Jesuit Agent-Attorney-Queen -- or is this a contradiction in terms??!! Do we need a 'Titanium-Lady' at the helm of this solar system -- even with a United States of the Solar System?? What if Sherry Shriner is the Queen of Nibiru?? Might that be why Sherry knows so much?? What if Sherry is Rich?? http://www.blogtalkradio.com/sherrytalkradio/2012/11/27/monday-night-with-sherry-shriner What if at least one Archangelic Queen of Heaven is a lot like this pretty lady (with a deeply spiritual soul)?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppRwQ8iFu2E&list=UU6RDFbY4srZRj8FJpFSDNYA&index=54&feature=plpp_video What if she is somehow related to Sherry Shriner?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlSuLJILQag I could say a lot more about this matter -- but I have a sore back. I fear that we have a governance and technological nightmare on our hands which might be nearly impossible to resolve. Perhaps 'High-Views' of Ethics and the Law of God are optimal places to search for theological and political truth. It seems as if the Search for Truth involves endless conflict. The Truth is SO overrated. I have never been more pessimistic about the future than I am presently. I'm trying very hard to stop posting -- in part because my thoughts are becoming darker by the minute -- and I do not wish to upset anyone. I continue to fear the extermination of the human-race -- but perhaps we have something to look forward to, once we shed these wretched bodies of ours, and go to a 'better-place'. Here is a REALLY strange question!! Do I have a biological child who I don't know about?? I have NEVER been promiscuous -- but for certain undisclosed reasons -- I wonder if this might be the case. An ethnic female of around ten years of age keeps entering my consciousness!! Have I met this hypothetical child?? What is the meaning of this?? I am sane, aren't I?? Please say 'Yes'!!

I'm sorry we couldn't work together. Too much BS has gone under the bridge. I'm tired of the BS. Too many bridges have been burned. It might've been nice to properly discuss the issues raised within this thread -- but too many Key-Beings remained silent. Why?? I desired only the best for all concerned. I keep attempting to look within the veil -- but I don't necessarily like what I see. Nothing would surprise me at this point. In the coming years, I intend to silently research the solar system (with UFO's, Mag-Lev Trains, Underground-Bases, Secret-Archives, Cray-Supercomputers, Chip-Implantation, Mind-Control Experimentation, and an Unlimited-Access Badge). Just Kidding. I still have no particular agenda or vendetta. I simply wish to be as perceptive and fair as possible. I've done a lot of speculating and role-playing -- so don't take this thread too seriously -- including my attitudes, language, images, views, and whining. A lot of this thread was an act -- to make a point. The more I research -- the less I seem to know, with any significant degree of certainty. I am NOT an insider (not in this incarnation anyway) -- but I think it might be kinda fun. Today, I'm imagining visiting the Bases Within Mercury!! I'll just keep silently pretending that I'm a Token Ethical Insider (TEI). No Harm -- No Foul. I've concluded that I basically have to talk to myself, because I am so far removed from virtually anyone's wavelength. I know there are those who I might resonate with, but I don't think they are at liberty to speak freely with me. I've used this site to stimulate my thinking. I make posts on various threads, and then transfer these posts to my 'home' thread. But I am seriously attempting to become much more private, and much more academic. I can no longer view YouTube videos, for whatever reason, so I'm relying more upon books and DVD's. I continue to think that someone might obtain a PhD in 'Project Avalon' and the 'Mists of Avalon'!! Seriously, one might read every thread -- read all books mentioned -- view all linked videos -- and analyze all of the posters (including meeting with some of them). I'm not kidding when I say that I feel highly attacked and drained -- on a supernatural level. This thing has turned into a 24/7 internal war -- with nothing to show for it -- and an increasing lack of attention to the daily details of 'normal living'. I can't quite 'turn the corner' and become a full-fledged science-fiction writer. I seem to have become stuck with making posts to myself on this site. I'm trying to 'go away' -- not because I'm angry -- but because I seem to be stuck in a rut. I need to reasearch and reflect -- without typing or moving my lips. I'm trying to develop a silent poker-face -- combined with non-stop internal-warfare of a most troubling and startling nature. Some might call this insanity. Siriusly, how many people agonize over the implications and ramifications of having a Titanium-Lady Queen-of-Heaven at the head of a Theocratic Council-of-Seven -- facilitating a United States of the Solar System -- which integrates a Benevolent-Theocracy with a Representative-Republic -- in the context of a Reptilian-Universe which hates Humanity??!! It's enough to drive a man to drink!!  

I will be thinking about that which I have introduced to you -- but I will be moving in a very different direction (as I recently mentioned). This passive quest is about to go completely BLACK -- and I will do my very best to NOT make further posts. On the other hand -- I have been thinking about doing an interview-show from Nibiru called 'The Regressive Perspective'!! Just Kidding. There have been some very suspicious individuals around my home lately -- and if anything bad happens to me -- I didn't do it to myself. You have my word. (Can you guys get me off the Red-List?? Please -- I beg of you. Kyrie Eleison.) Is the survival of one group of individuals and/or races dependant upon the destruction of another group of individuals and/or races?? I keep getting the feeling that we are locked in a Most Dangerous Game Where No Prisoners Are Taken. If this is the case -- why does it have to be this way?? Are there Ancient Covenants which are Absolutely Binding in Modernity?? Be VERY careful who you label as 'Good-Guys' and 'Bad-Guys'. This includes God, Satan, Lucifer, Gabriel, Michael, Jesus, et al. The Judgment-Process might be VERY complex and confusing. Many are 'Good' because they lack the motive and opportunity to be 'Bad'. Ever heard of 'Righteousness by Senility'?? I presently favor Galactic-Incarceration over Galactic-Extermination. I do NOT favor torture, enslavement, and murder. I suspect that I am reincarnationally BOTH Good and Bad. I suspect that I have always meant well -- but we all know about 'good-intentions' don't we?? I keep thinking I was some sort of a Reincarnational-Insider who became a Sanctimonious Pain in Uranus -- and got demoted Big-Time. Was the Mission too important to be jeapordized by my hyper-ethical whining?? Was I bad for business?? Would an effective Solar System Administrator need to be Good and Bad -- Simultaneously?? Would they need to be Wise as a Draconian-Reptilian and Harmless as a Christ-Like Human?? Think About It.

I tend to think that a World Order has always existed which has probably included the whole Solar System -- but now people are finding out about it -- and the technology somehow seems to be out of control (or under the control of the wrong humans and other than humans). Who will run the Solar System -- and how will they do it?? There have been nasty power struggles throughout history -- but the stakes seem much higher now than they have ever been. I've made myself sick by thinking about this. I keep thinking that our future is going to be quite nasty -- regardless of who runs things -- and regardless of how they manage the insanity. I remain VERY conflicted by the interrelationship between Love, Freedom, Responsibility, Law, and Order. Anarchy and Mob-Rule are Bad -- But So is Cracking-Down and Cracking the Whip. I seem to be morphing into some sort of a wanna-be megalomaniac-anonymous -- and I don't like this one little bit. I want Heaven on Earth -- but it seems as if this will not be happening anytime soon. I get the feeling that many of those who desire Heaven on Earth see extermination and theocracy as justifiable means to a glorious end. I desire Heaven without having to kill the rebels, and without having to enforce doctrinal-purity with harsh and violent means. The means determine the ends. I said I was going to stop posting -- and I'm trying a lot harder this time. The conversations I desired never materialized -- and I sense unimaginable problems, which I really do not wish to openly speculate about. I get the sinking feeling that a happy-ending is NOT an option. I'm sorry things had to end this way. 'It Might've Been'. I might post on the internet at a much later date -- but I really wish to end this particular thread -- and let the space-dust settle. A week ago, I told someone I was DONE posting. I didn't lie -- yet I have made several posts this week. Hopefully this one will be my last -- at least for the remainder of 2012. I got that cleverly delivered message. Thank-you. How did you do that??!! I suspected as much -- but even with the message -- I still don't necessarily believe it. True or False? In a sense, it really doesn't make much difference. Truth is Truth -- regardless of whether I have anything to do with it -- or not. I continue to desire a Strategically-Located Room with a Cray (linked to a high-end Artificial-Organ!) -- and that Unlimited-Access Badge!! I'm easy. Just Kidding! I don't know what I want -- and more importantly -- I don't know what I deserve -- but I don't think I'll have to wait long to find out. This could be Heaven -- or this could be Hell. Actually, I DO know what I want!! 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP1CWKtWN3k 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEyjor8MCts&feature=relmfu 3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=oO2rokX6sTY&NR=1 Just kidding!! I really want to End ALL War and Violence -- and I'm NOT kidding.

I like the idea of underground living -- with or without aliens and the end of the world. I sort of like the Stargate SG-1 underground base. I think it might be cool to be part of a think-tank in such a setting. I like the idea of travelling throughout the solar system -- without saying or doing much of anything -- other than making a daily report on the InterPlaNet. I'm not really into fighting the Goa'uld with machine-guns and laser-weapons. Can't we just get along??? What Would Sherry Shriner Say?? http://www.blogtalkradio.com/sherrytalkradio/2012/12/11/monday-night-with-sherry-shriner Perhaps I should become a Mason -- and be a corrupt banker -- so I can afford an Underground Base with a Hobbit House Entrance. But it might be a bit late for that. Regardless of what happens (or doesn't happen), it might be wise to study disaster-books, disaster-movies, sci-fi books, sci-fi series and movies -- in a calm and non-paranoid manner. Imagine obtaining a PhD in 'Project Avalon and the Mists of Avalon'!!! Imagine applying for a job in an Underground Base after obtaining said PhD!! Should I try to make enough money to buy an old decommissioned missile-silo, an old Cray, an old Tracker-Action Pipe-Organ, an Esoteric-Library, a Solar-Enhanced Prius, a Sexy Housekeeper-Assistant, and enough food to last a couple of decades -- just for the coolness of it -- without regard to alien-invasions and the end-of-the-world??!! Just think of the possibilities!! Orthodoxymoron or Wave of the Future??

Check out the interviews on this link (especially the Major General SC interviews). I listened to two of the 'SC' interviews -- which scared me. I'm REALLY scared. http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=sherry+shriner&view=detail&id=D469159C38F3C9A3993F465E899946B747F93826&first=1 Then, last week, someone with a tattoo in Hebrew (saying something like "He Who is God") told me that "I had done good -- for a loser". Then, the school-shooting took place. Then, a 'person of interest' didn't 'show-up' this week (6 days before 12-21-12) -- and I see them every week. Plus, I'm feeling more and more emotional and spiritual pressure. My house continues to be a mess -- even though I'm a 'clean-freak' at heart. I've just sort of let a lot of things go -- and I've become very distressed and miserable. I am extremely apprehensive regarding the next few weeks. I'm fearing the worst -- even if there seems to be a light at the end of the tunnel. I could say more -- but I can't take much more. Someone told me there would be an attempted theocracy -- followed by an extermination. Perhaps some of us know too much for our own good. I feel as if I have a tiger by the tail -- and I'm afraid to let go. Once certain doors are opened -- there seems to be no turning back -- which is one reason why I have no mission to 'wake people up' -- or to 'shut people up'. I just bought a book on 'Space Law' (with a Sandia National Laboratories stamp!), a book about 'Cleopatra and Christ', a book on 'Break-away Civilizations', and a book about 'Possible Life in the Oceans of Europa'. I'm thinking of moving to a mountain cabin (with a 'Russian Fireplace') -- and doing without a telephone or the internet -- and just chopping wood, gardening, reading books, listening to music, and looking through a telescope (a 16 inch Dobsonian perhaps). In a future incarnation I think I might like to be some sort of a solar system observer or watchdog -- traveling around the solar system, and attending various meetings, sessions, lectures, etc, etc, etc -- just to make sure that nothing goes seriously wrong. Unfortunately, I think that sort of thing won't be happening in this particular incarnation. I'm still hoping that there still is hope for the human race -- and that the universe doesn't pull the plug. On the other hand, if I REALLY knew what the true situation of humanity is, I might feel differently. I truly see through a glass, darkly. Who knows what the full story of our origins are?? There must be extensive hidden records, describing our history quite precisely -- but I keep getting the sinking feeling that we probably would NOT like the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth concerning our origins and history. I watched Lloyd Pye videos a couple of years ago -- and I was quite impressed -- and perhaps I should spend some quality-time evaluating what Pye is presently conceptualizing.

Please spend a lot of quality-time modeling Heaven, Purgatory, and Hell -- in the context of this solar system. This is a deeper and more complex study than you might think. I think it is significant to imagine what 'Heaven' might be like -- and whether (or not) Heaven on Earth might be a future reality. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngmakCXGe7M Is Heaven a Democracy?? Is Heaven a Theocracy?? Is it Good to Have a God?? Can a Benevolent Theocracy and a Representative Republic peacefully coexist?? I have attempted to unite these two concepts within this Sacred Website -- and now I think my work is finished -- for now -- even though I know that I don't have a clue regarding what's REALLY going on. Just keep considering all of the possibilities -- all of the time -- and NEVER give up. On the other hand -- perhaps I should've given up this quest a very long time ago. My life, in general -- and this thread, in particular -- seems to have been a HUGE mistake, and a monumental waste of time. A life is a terrible thing to waste. I just wanted things to make sense -- but they never did. I tried to model a particular perspective within this thread -- but now I wish that I hadn't. There's not much left of me -- but perhaps there never was much to begin with. I will not 'bump' this thread (as I have in the past), and it is presently being ignored -- which doesn't surprise me. I still haven't received an NSA FoIA response (after approximately three months) -- which doesn't surprise me. My attempt to find some sort of middle-ground for all-concerned has seemingly been ignored and/or rejected -- and I KNOW that 'Those in the Know' know about me -- yet refuse to converse with me -- which doesn't surprise me. BTW -- are we dealing with three groups of Ancient Souls?? 1. Non-Physicality Oriented Souls?? 2. Reptilian-Humanoid-Physicality-Oriented Souls?? 3. Mammalian-Humanoid-Physicality-Oriented Souls?? If so -- is this Universe large enough to accomodate such diversity?? I have attempted to be VERY open-minded in this matter -- but there has been very little response -- with the limited-response being mostly negative or off-topic. However, I have learned a helluva lot from Brook, Lionhawk, Carol, Mercuriel, Anchor, Mudra, Susan, Raven, A-1, AED, et al. Thank-you.

I continue to suspect that there are NO safe places -- and that even the Insiders (both good and bad) are NOT safe. I'll continue to quietly model my strange notions of solar system governance -- and to consider my strange conceptualizations of a very strange and very dangerous universe. I am quite pessimistic about the future -- regardless of what happens (or doesn't happen) on 12-21-12 (or throughout 2013). The threads I've created (in the context of Project Avalon and the Mists of Avalon) should keep me busy as I await 'The End'. I just got a set of encyclopedias to read. So if the 'Veil is Lifted' and we see all manner of strange beings -- or if we discover that we are strange beings -- I'll try to just utter 'well whatta you know!!??' -- and then go back to reading my threads and encyclopedias!! Are we facing the Open Rule of Satan -- after thousands of years of the Covert Rule of Satan??!! I continue to suspect that we are more screwed than we can possibly imagine. http://www.blogtalkradio.com/sherrytalkradio/2012/12/18/monday-night-with-sherry-shriner On the other hand -- I continue to model idealistic solar system governance modalities. But to whom it may concern -- if you get propped-up as some sort of a Solar System Administrator -- be very wary regarding the very top of the pyramid -- and be very wary regarding the fate of humanity. You might be in for a helluva marriage -- once the honeymoon is over -- and the novelty wears off. I'm just trying to be a Galactic Tom Bodett -- to keep the light on in this solar system -- in what I perceive to be a dark universe. I do NOT wish to think the way I do -- but my internal modeling is quite frightening and compelling. I base most of my thinking on extensive experience and reflection -- but I certainly can't prove any of it -- and I SO hope that I'm wrong. I will continue to quietly model the principles and concepts contained in this thread -- even if it drives me completely insane. I KNOW that 'TOP' people know about this madness (without all of my errors) -- but they're not talking about it -- which doesn't surprise me. Perhaps I should permanently leave this solar system -- or perhaps I should cease to exist -- and be as though I had never been. Perhaps then the universe might bask in divine justice. I am very sorry to have bothered you -- and caused some of you to hate me. This universe does not seem to need me -- or want me. Is there another one somewhere or somewhen?? Can you imagine living within Ida and/or Dactyl for a couple of years??!! Would that be cool -- or would it suck?? I think it might be VERY cool!!! I'm half joking and half Sirius.

I just rewatched 'Legion' and now my computer is 'possessed'. There really does seem to be a connection. Isn't it interesting that Michael was depicted as being the 'rebel-angel' rather than Lucifer??!! Somewhat relatedly, watch the 'Dark Frontier' episodes (parts 1&2) of 'Star Trek Voyager' (seaon 5). This is one of the most chilling shows I have ever watched. Might that hellish Borg-Ship be representative of an 'intermediate stage' or 'half-way house' wherein Humans from Earth (Demons from Hell?) are assimilated back into a hive-minded Reptilian Universe as Angels in Heaven??!! I have no idea -- but I continue to wonder about such things. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKoJxGHCvyI As I mentioned, this quest is becoming too dark for me to continue to speculate in public. I'd still like to hang-out with the Jesuits on Mt. Graham -- and perhaps participate in the University of Arizona astronomy program (with an emphasis on Lunar and Planetary Studies). http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/ Perhaps such a formal study might be integrated with a deeper academic study of this thread -- at both undergraduate and graduate levels. I'm not sure I could deal with campus life, at this point, so some sort of 'independent-study' might be necessary (which might include Reptilian Theocracies and Space Law). Is anyone (human or otherwise) presently living within Ida and/or Dactyl?? What if there were a Reptilian Theological Seminary within Ida??? Or what about the University of Arizona at Ida (with an Asteroid, Lunar, and Planetary Studies Center)??? What if the Jesuits had one of those big binocular telescopes on Ida?? Just a thought.

BTW -- what if 'Seven of Nine' is somewhat representative of the 'Queen of Heaven'??!! Don't shoot. I'm just a Completely Ignorant Fool. What if the Borg Queen ruled Seven of Nine ruled the Queen of England??!! No disrespect intended -- but what if the universal chain of command is darker and more complex than we can possibly imagine?? What if the Illuminati are caught between an Angry Reptilian Universe and a Rebellious Human Race??!! Once again, don't we need to consider ALL of the possibilities, including Sherry Shriner http://www.blogtalkradio.com/sherrytalkradio/2013/01/15/monday-night-with-sherry-shriner prior to arriving at any conclusions regarding the most important topics imaginable??!! Here are some final thoughts for your consideration:

1. The Love of Money is the Root of All Evil -- but the Bottom-Line is the Bottom-Line.
2. We Desire Strong Leadership -- but Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely.
3. A Literal Solar System Heaven or Hell might be Bad for Business -- but This Present Purgatory seems to be the Optimal Business Model. World Without End. $$$$$$$$$$$$$!!!!!!!!!
4. We Desire Freedom -- but we Shun the Responsibility Upon Which Freedom is Based.

I was a Paid Completely Ignorant Internet Fool. The Devil Made Me Do It -- and the Greys Paid Me -- Until I Became a Smart@$$. Siriusly, this thread is NOT hate-based. I might be partially-insane -- but NOT in a hateful or dangerous manner. I'd like to ask one last time, for something to be done with this thread, perhaps involving certain key players answering some of the questions I've asked -- in some sort of a science fictional format. I have NO idea what might be appropriate -- or what might work. You wouldn't believe the things I think about, relative to this thread -- but I don't wish to make a big deal about subjects which I know very little about. I need to try to get something published -- but I don't know which way to jump -- so I'll probably just keep my thoughts to myself -- and leave this thread as is. I tend to think that I'm in HUGE Galactic Trouble already. What if, after all of my ranting and speculation about the Queen of Heaven -- I turned out to be the Reincarnation of Isis??!! Nuff Said. Namaste, Godspeed, and Geronimo.

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1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6JUMqGCWsU
2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrI3i6y7yts&feature=relmfu
3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBsBvlGsry4&feature=relmfu
4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weDd_4iFcnI (The NSA Won't Say)
5. http://www.blogtalkradio.com/sherrytalkradio
6. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zqi6paX3ong&feature=related
7. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRIt3aDX7-k
8. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRTjsiNczpk
9. http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=sherry+shriner&view=detail&id=D469159C38F3C9A3993F465E899946B747F93826&first=1
10. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBJKCz6Xhzs







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