The answer to The Grand Cycle has been found...
and, everyone is part right !!!
The answers are in cycles of 5, 6, 13, 20, 60, 65, 260, 360, 360 + 360/361+5 & 144,000,
as, well, as The Cycles of The New & The Full Moons that are followed by all indigenous & tribal people worldwide.
There is only one date, that will satisfy the end, and, the start date of all ancient calendars,
from The Mayan Tzolkin (260 days), The Mayan Haab (360/361+5 days), The Aztec Tonalpohualli (260 days),
to The Ancient First Nations - Metis - Native American (260 days) & (360 days) calendars.
The Ancient Year, was always measured in relation to a circle, which has 360 Degrees or 360 Days,
from an astrological perspective this would relate to a 1 degree precession per day,
following through a series of 360 days to complete one year.
This calendar was originally set into six quarters of sixty days - 6 x 60 = 360
and, each of these six quarters where known as: Winter, Spring, Breakup, Summer, Fall, and Freeze Up.
In 2012, The New Moon occurs on 13 Dec 2012, and, The Full Moon occurs on 28 Dec 2012,
which signals The End of The Freeze Up Cycle, and, The Start of The Winter Cycle
which was the real beginning of The Annual Yearly Cycle.
In 2013, The New Moon occurs on 03 Dec 2013, and, The Full Moon on 17 Dec 2013,
which signals The End of Freeze Up Cycle, and, The Start of The Winter Cycle,
The Beginning of The Annual Yearly Cycle.
This date is in perfect alignment with The Start of The Winter cycle of 2012-2013
and, The Start Date of The 13th Grand Cycle of Pacha iNTi which begins on The 17th of December, 2013.
The Cycle of The New Moons, along with The Full Moons, and each of The Six Quarters
are all connected to very significant Ceremonies, for an assortment of purposes.
The Date of The 21st of December 2012, does NOT satisfy all calendars,
and, therefore, it can NOT be accepted as the end date of a grand cycle,
as, it is NOT in perfect alignment with all known calendars.
The 21st DEC 2012 is The 47th Ahua Date in the last series of 65 cycles.
and, is The end of The Macha (female) Cycle of 9,360,000 Kin aka Days (65 cycles x 144,0000)
and, The 22nd DEC 2012 is the start of The Pacha (male) Cycle,
which runs for 360 Kin aka days (6 cycles of 60)
and, 9,360,000 + 360 = 9,360,360 = 65 cycles X 144,000 + 60 x 6
and, The 16th DEC 2013 is The 65th Ahua Date in the last series of 65 cycles.
The length of The Ancient Cycles were, and, still are 5, 6, 13, 20, 60, 260, 360, 360/361+5, & 144,000.
Our correlation date for the last cycle is August 11th 3114 BC Gregorian proleptic
or, September 6th, 3114 BC Julian.
It is important to know, that The Gregorian Calendar did NOT exist prior to 1572,
when it was created and implemented as The Civil Calendar by Pope Gregory of The Catholic Church,
which introduced a leap year, every four years, to account for the missing time.
A real day is NOT exactly 24 hours in length, and,
this calendar was created to create the ability to allow the time keeping of mechanical clocks & watches,
which required exact measures.
The Ancient Year was 360 Kin aka Days
- exactly the number of degrees in a circle or a round.
The Moon Cycles were given names, and, each tribe utilized slightly different names,
The Creator asked All of The Original Ancestors of all of The Tribes
to give blessings through the giving of names to everything, including The Naming of The Moon cycles
and, to do that they utilized the process of The Naming Ceremony.
The Grand cycle occurs once every 9,360,000 + 360 days = 9,360,360 days=
9,360,000 + 360 = 13 x 5 = 65 cycles x 144,000 + 360
= 26,000 x 360 + 6 x 60 = 468018 x 20.
These 9,360,360 days run through all of the assortment of Ceremonial Events,
namely The Sunrise Ceremony & The Sunset Ceremony,
along with The New Moon Ceremony & The Full Moon Ceremony,
which holds great importance around the world,
to all indigenous & non-indigenous people and tribes.
The 13th of December 2012 - is a New Moon
and, The 28th of December, 2012 - is a Full Moon
which starts The Winter Cycle of 2012-2013.
The 21st of December 2012,
is The End of The Macha Cycle of 9,360,000 Days
and, The 16th of December 2013
is The End of The Grand Cycle of Macha & The Grand Cycle of Pacha,
which terminates at sunset on The 65th Ahua - 16 DEC 2013
which is the day before The Full Moon of 17th of December 2013.
These time honoured cycles of 5, 6, 13, 20, 60, 65, 260, 360, 360/361+5 & 144,000 cycles,
all flow through The New Moon & The Full Moon,
through The Black & The Blue Moon Cycles
which were respected very highly by the day, record, time and wisdom keepers.
These were very important cycles
which were related to a vast assortment of ancient practices
of day, record, time and wisdom keeping, that are still utilised today
by celebrating, creating and doing a specific Ceremony
related to each of them.
The 13th Grand Cycle of Pacha iNTi begins
-The 17th December 2013 at sunrise.
The12th Grand Cycle of Macha & Pacha ends
- The 16th December 2013 at sunset aka The 65th Ahua.
susan lynne schwenger
- Dokis First Nation, Ontario, Canada
workingwonders@aol.com28 OCT 2011 - The 26th Ahua - The Calleman Date
21 DEC 2012 - The 47th Ahua - The John Major Jenkins Date
21 DEC 2012 - The 47th Ahua - The Terrance McKenna Date
16 DEC 2013 - The 65th Ahua - The Susan Lynne Schwenger -Tony Bermanseder Date
17 DEC 2013 - Start of The 13th Grand Cycle of Pacha iNTi
was discovered by Tony Bermanseder & Susan Lynne Schwenger
and, can also be aligned to important bible codes
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THE MAGIC of 144 - 144 WHOLE NUMBER FACTORS of MAYAN DRESDEN CODEX SUPERNUMBER 1366560
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146, 156, 160, 180, 195, 208, 219, 234, 240, 260, 288, 292, 312, 360, 365, 390, 416, 438, 468, 480, 520, 584, 585, 624, 657, 720, 730, 780, 876, 936, 949, 1040, 1095, 1168, 1170, 1248, 1314, 1440, 1460, 1560, 1752, 1872, 1898, 2080, 2190, 2336, 2340, 2628, 2847, 2920, 3120, 3285, 3504, 3744, 3796, 4380, 4680, 4745, 5256, 5694, 5840, 6240, 6570, 7008, 7592, 8541, 8760, 9360, 9490, 10512, 11388, 11680, 13140, 14235, 15184, 17082, 17520, 18720, 18980, 21024, 22776, 26280, 28470, 30368, 34164, 35040, 37960, 42705, 45552, 52560, 56940, 68328, 75920, 85410, 91104, 105120, 113880, 136656, 151840, 170820, 227760, 273312, 341640, 455520, 683280 and 1366560.
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THE ANSWER to THE CALENDAR MYSTERY has been found
there is ONLY one date that satisfies all old ancient calenders
- and, calendar cycles
(except The Gregorian Calander which wasn't created until 1572).
The Aztec Tonalphonualli Calendar (260=13x20),
The Haab Calendar (360 +5),
The Tzolkin Calendar (260),
The Cherokee Calendar (260),
The First Nations Calendar (360), now, it is in sync with The 365/366 Gregorian Calendar
The Metis Calendar (360), now it is in sync with The 365/366 Gregorian Calendar
The Native American Calendar (360), now it is in sync with The 365/366 Gregorian Calendar
The Ancient Year Calendar(360), which operated in a full circle of 360 days (sunrise, and, sunsets)
and, it has a 1 degree per day advancement aka precessional cycle,
and,it is the true length of a real year.
(1 x 360=360=A full circle or calendar round).
THE 47th Ahua of a sequence of 65 ahua dates is 21 DEC 2012,
The end of Macha (female) cycle- and, 22 Dec 2012 is The Start of Pacha (male)
- and, it ends 360 days later...
22 DEC 2012 to 16 DEC 2013 - is 360 days - the correct length of THE ANCIENT YEAR
- The 16 DEC 2013 is The 65th Ahua in a cycle of 65,
AND, 9,360,360=65x144,000+6 cycles x 60 = 9,360,360
AND, 9,360,000/360 =26,000 Years to The Grand Cycle
360/360=1 Year
- all known ancient & old calendars can be calibrated SUCCESSFULLY to this date.
There are also Old Calenders of The Cree, Ojibway-Ojibwa-Ojibwe, Blackfeet, Ottawa Alconquin, etc.,
that are also 260 Days in length, and, align to Full Moon Cycles.
The Current Grand Cycle, is The 12th Grand Cycle of Macha & Pacha which ends 16 DEC 2013 at sunset.
The 13th Grand Cycle of Pacha iNTi starts 17 DEC 2013 at sunrise,
on the date of The Full Moon,
that starts The Winter Cycle on The Ancient Calendar
which is still used by First Nation - Metis- Native Americans
related to their New Moon and Full Moon Ceremony & Cycles
utilized for an assortment of purposes, and, reasons for their Ceremonial Practices.
This is the one calendar, that most people forgot about
- this is very likely because the dates on it, shift with The Gregorian Calendar,
although, the appearances of new, and, of full moon happens right on time.
Also, it is only on The Gregorian Calendar that 24 hrs in a day exists,
in the ancient calendar, the length of a day, shifted daily,
as, well as, the time of the sunrise, and, the sunset shifts daily.
The Ancient Calendar flows through 6 cycles of 60 or 360 days
- it is, always to be started in The Last Full Moon of December, which
is called The Winter Cycle.
The six cycles are known as: Winter, Spring, Break Up, Summer, Fall & Freeze Up,
and, the 6 cycles are spaced 60 days apart.
The Grand Cycle of Pacha iNTi does NOT begin until The 17th of December, 2013 at sunrise.
This formula can be proven mathematically & scientifically
- through full, new, black, and, blue moon phases using cosmic time.
Discovered by Susan Lynne Schwenger & Tony Bermanseder in May 2010
This is THE RIGHT ANSWER !!!
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