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    Are you vegetarian?

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    Post  blue roller Fri Feb 19, 2016 2:20 pm

    Post on any forum for any length of time and you see group/herd think. After a while the genuine free thinkers get routed by the cowardly consensus because fear of abandonment and isolation from the herd outweighs sanity. Even now the ranks are closing and the poor me mentality is the excuse.

    Run with the herd you can . But eventually the fear that drives it will lead you to a well fenced prison.

    Most food comes from farms. Most farms are fenced to keep in stock and keep out unwanted feeders . Farms are really no different to concentration camps. Barbed wire , strict regimes , an inbred autocratic farmer dictating to the animals he enslaves for profit.

    Its the perfect metaphor for a book called Animal Farm. Except the real victims on this farm are Humans .
    Before Jesus Hit Europe and turned free people in to Flocks of sheep to be herded , tribal land was shared and worked for mutual benefit of all , not the few .
    Before the Brahmin's carved up India in to fiefdoms and created the caste system , India would have been the same.
    Before the pilgrim fathers invaded America and fenced in Indian lands , the native Americans lived in harmony with all life.

    Where do you get your food ? never mind for a moment what your chosen diet is. Where ? from a farm ? Probably . Most likely .

    So your eating the products of stock enslavement ,land enslavement and you are enabling slavery which is technically and actually Illegal in most countries.

    I am surrounded by farms with barbed wire fences. The fence is to keep in the cows , but also to keep OUT the native wildlife such as Kangaroos that eat the farmers Grass . I refuse to put barbed wire on our fences for that reason , so the wildlife can eat our grass anytime they like. Our humble block has become an oasis because nature is welcome , not excluded . Thousands of kangaroo's die each year when they jump over a fence and get their legs caught in barbed wire . Its a cruel slow death . I hate barbed wire . Its a symbol of imprisonment. It is imprisonment.

    The cabal that controls this planet does so through fear and intimidation . Religion is their main tool. Start any sincere movement for change and they will infiltrate it and corrupt it. Herd mentality is the subject of Orwell's book 1984 .

    Who dares to put animal life above plant life in sanctity ? Plant life is the foundation of all other life . Consume plants uncontrolled and the whole system collapses . We should humbly thank all life for allowing us to co exist with it . Not vaunt ourselves above it .

    Fanatics crave hierarchy so they can be part of it . They seek empowerment through enslavement instead of sharing. They love to stand in Judgement and ridicule those who dare to speak honestly . They sneer ,jeer , and steal through hypocrisy, the righteous way and all behind a mask of 'good intentions'.

    The road to hell . And in case you had not noticed , your already on it.

    Is it any wonder so few humans get meaningful lasting contact from ET civilizations . Contact should humble you and it does , but earth humans don't like being humble. They like being the man in charge with their rules and their religions and their socially superior dietary habits.

    Ignore the the truth of balanced life you can . But when life is out of balance it dies and you will die with it . Unloved ,unrespected and ungrieved for .
    Your planet will be your gravestone and a sober warning to all those who embrace greed and refuse to be honest.
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    Post  Sanicle Fri Feb 19, 2016 11:42 pm

    blue roller wrote:Post on any forum for any length of time and you see group/herd think. After a while the genuine free thinkers get routed by the cowardly consensus because fear of abandonment and isolation from the herd outweighs sanity. Even now the ranks are closing and the poor me mentality is the excuse

    Routed or choose to leave? Either way, this smaller herd does the free thinker a favour as he/she is then free to leave herd-thinking behind altogether and follow their own, unique, individual path with greater freedom than ever before. Wink Hugs
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    Post  blue roller Sat Feb 20, 2016 1:22 am

    Sanicle wrote:
    blue roller wrote:Post on any forum for any length of time and you see group/herd think. After a while the genuine free thinkers get routed by the cowardly consensus because fear of abandonment and isolation from the herd outweighs sanity. Even now the ranks are closing and the poor me mentality is the excuse

    Routed or choose to leave?  Either way, this smaller herd does the free thinker a favour as he/she is then free to leave herd-thinking behind altogether and follow their own, unique, individual path with greater freedom than ever before. Wink Hugs

    The circle of life is obvious to those who live with nature and see all life as equal . I think you know that Sanicle . But most are behind the fence and do not see that fighting over rules keeps the rules enforceable . They end up asking for the freedom to be dominated . The irony is lost on them.

    It does not matter which bird you back in the cockpit . Even if you take home the winnings the fight was misdirection and the money is soon spent on tax and rent . No such thing exists in Natures realms.

    I see people trading 'friendship and loyalty' on line in a rigged Casino . The internet is now their distraction from the monotony of jail time . The mother net is being destroyed and the epitaph when this planet is turned in to a gravestone will be ;

    We never listened because we already Knew and 'god' was with us until the end .

    Being the biggest fish in a tiny bowl is small comfort when your heart and soul are withered away by hate .

    I don't come here for favors Sanicle and this planet is not my home . Most animals that are farmed can be returned to the natural world and their instincts kick in . But with so many fences physical, psychological and electromagnetic, the circle of life is dying . Food choice without freedom is no choice at all . Replacing one hierarchy with another just perpetuates the hate and polarizes the mind .

    Jail time and worst of all ,solitary confinement, does terrible things to the mind of a person . No longer able to socialize , the victim swings between love and hate . fear and need. Trust is long gone and hard to regain.

    Example. Ex friend of mine here in Oz . Massive health /fitness nut . Omnivore .Eats lots of meat and fish and hot on the latest fad diet .
    Used to be big in to Chili peppers .
    So one day I ask this person ' got any more of that awesome chilli paste you made ?'
    'Oh no ' she says 'I dont eat anything like that anymore '
    'Why so ?'
    'Its a member of the deadly nightshade family !'

    So that's it. Because she read that somewhere on line she now believes tomato's , potatoes ,chilli etc are poison too !

    Sub text to this person is she was raised Mormon so we are talking inter generational sexual abuse as SOP. MPD as well . Like all MK ultra women she was sterilized before going operational and in denial about her barren state . End result , a tortured soul broken by the most extreme abuse possible.

    Now she punishes herself in Cross fit Gym's . The latest body killing exercise fad where people push until they throw up without warming up and lift weights without the proper training to do it safely .

    Before MK ultra it was just called Catholicism , or puritanism or whatever blind faith you were brought up in . This is what I see day in day out when I meet people . The staggering cost of self hate trying to redeem itself through more self punishment.
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    Post  mudra Sat Mar 05, 2016 5:29 pm

    Cow who made mad dash for freedom from slaughterhouse is re-homed at animal sanctuary

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3413050/Cow-mad-dash-freedom-slaughterhouse-homed-animal-sanctuary.html

    cheers

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    Post  devakas Sat Mar 05, 2016 7:32 pm



    This is the gift to humans.  In no any circumstances humanity have rights to kill a cow.



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    Post  devakas Sun Mar 13, 2016 1:20 pm


    This planet was created that people would live happy, but with our stupidity and dark minds we destroy it.

    Cows and cow products fully can heal humanity from madness and give physical health.


    Meat is energy of death and cheese is energy of love.
    The person who is eating cheese he is also strong, feels also good,
    healthy and has staying strength the same as the person who eats meat,
    in addition he becomes good in goodness mode, humble, kind to others,
    peaceful.  A person who consumes meat, after a while he degrades, becomes more
    in anxiety, irritates ease and becomes angry.

    If to feed a dog with meat, the dog will be very strong and angry. But if to feed a
    dog with cheese, milk, the dog will become so sweet that he will not stop liking owner.
    Those who have field dogs, they don't feed them with milk, milk will spoil the dogs.

    This is pure propaganda that there is no alternative to meat for meat eaters.
    This is absolute not true. Cheese is alternative to meat. Many preparations can be made from cheese.
    Everything and even more can be done from cheese than from meat.

    There is no need to cut cow's throat to get food from her. She herself will give everything we need.


    Only lost knowledge should be used to apply cow's products properly.

    Healing is very effective using various cows products.

    Curd is earth element and the best mixed with ghee heals inflammation of joints, muscles, bones, weak bones, strong grow of the bone starts.
    Body aches goes away when ghee applied.

    Kefir best to eat in summer, it gives strength and takes away thirsty feeling.

    Creamy sour creams are needed during winder time. It has heating power for the body.

    Sour cream properties are to feed hormones and neutralize heat and cold in the body.

    Even it is warming element, however it has property to neutralize heat. For example after burn in the sun to apply sour cream it neutralize fire element in the burns. It heals.
    Or if you eat hot pepper or spice and mouth is burning, water will make it worse, but sour cream will kill the fire.
    Why water will make the hot pepper taste even worse. Because water is transporter and it transports the taste to deeper structures of organism. Our tongue has water as transporter.  For example if you put a candy on the tongue but dry tongue there will be no water and no taste will be there. But if there will be wet tongue, than you will feel the taste right away.  The same with pepper will be taste transported with water even deeper and faster.  But hot pepper with sour cream fire will be neutralized.

    Stomach diseases are healed by sour cream because stomach disease is fire. Bites of insects are also fire and sour cream neutralizes the fire.

    Cows dung.

    Not for food however interesting ancient Vedic literature describes that all kinds and any wastes, all are not clean, however cow dung is the cleanest product that ever exists.   Also Vedas describes that all bones are dirty, except bone of the shell and elephant bone. It is very clean product. Three things elephant bone, shell bone and cow dung are most clean products.  We think it is contradicting because we think that what is coming from us the same is coming from cow.
    Vedas describes how cow dung can be used.

    Using cow dung properly the dung neutralizes bad smells.  First it is dried, then made powder and the longer it stays the nicer smell is produces by the dried dung. Nice smelling incense is made mostly from dung powder.  Oh smells good, made from dung.  If incenses made from dung burns in house, all ghosts, bad spirits, parasites leave the house.  

    If apply cow dung on the floor and walls, cockroaches will not live.  Even today in India, Armenia, Georgia and other countries villages still people applying the cow dung to keep clean houses.

    Cow dung is best construction material.  If to build with cow dung, no insects, microbes, parasites grow in those houses.  People have no allergies in those houses.
    Houses made with layers of cow dung in the walls keeps warm of the house naturally. Keeps heat in walls and rooms are warm.  During the summer it keeps heat out and house rooms are chill.  If you will go into the room where walls have cow dung layers, you will feel that like air conditioner is turned on in this room.

    Those are wonderful properties of the cow dung.  But if you would apply horse dung to the house you would run out from the house together with the cockroaches far far away. Hahaha. Maybe cockroaches will return, but you would not be able.

    What such a big difference is.

    Cows dung is very valuable and cows usually pick up tail and smash dung on the walls that dung for humans would still not touch the ground.

    How cow dung heals allergies?  Cow dung is the best allergy healer. It diminishes allergic fire. Allergy it is disease of fire. If to apply a bad with cow dung to allergic spots on body, the allergy disappears while watching so fast. Can be applied raw, but in the beginning it smells, so it can be applied dried, powder.  I had experience with patient how fast it heals.
    All any inflammatory diseases heal cow dung.  All that exists.  Any diseases that have basis inflammation, cow dung cools down the heat the best.  In India all pharmacies buys cow dung all the time.  The pressed brick and clean that did not touch ground cost is high.
    The fire is most pure when it done with dried cow dung. Also food prepared on the fire made from dried cow dung has unbelievable good taste like nothing else made of fire.

    Livers, blood diseases, diabetes are healed with cow dung. It is easier to list what is not healed that what is healed. So many diseases.
    Just remember, all other kind of dung or waste is poison.  Only cow dung is produced different way and has those properties.

    Much medicine is done with cow dung and ghee mixed.  Also skin inflammations and diseases are healed.

    Cow dung also as milk increases the power of medical herbs 10 times.  Joins from salt pains are healed with cow dung applied.  Curd and dung mixed are many times effective than separate.

    For example there is a bad smell in your refrigerator and by applying dried powder for a while and washing out the refrigerator the bad smell will be gone.  The same can be done in any room with bad smell.


    Cow Urine

    Vedas explains that cow urine is the best ever product to detoxify body from any toxins.
    There is a medicine where cow urine is used. Where people came up with human urine benefits, in Vedas only cow urine is described, not human.  Also it is said better to use cow, than bull urine, because bull urine still has semen power in urine. Only cow urine is described as beneficial for humans.

    Cows may be sick, they get sick as humans and they require nurturing them, care.  Using all cows products cow should be healthy not sick.  This is very important to know.

    The more we take care the more goodness we get.  Like plant if we take care the better it grows, the same cows the better we take care of cows the more goodness we get from Cow urine is gathered in India and it is sold very quickly.  It has many benefits and powers.  
    If you noticed in a field of grass some higher little islands of grass. It means cow pee there and the grass grows better in those spots.
    We can heal all our plants with cow urine.  Our gardens can increase many times if to water with cow’s urine.
    If you use cow’s urine dilute with water in half.

    Cow’s urine is very strong fire that retrieves any toxins from the deepest body organs, structures. For example there are some germs living in the walls of the guts.  No medicine can get them out, but the pure fire in cow’s urine removes those parasites from the walls.  I had experience to heal a child where many parasites came out only after one glass of cow urine.
    What is interesting that when you drink one glass, many more glasses are coming out from us.
    There are no side effects from using cow urine. However using anti-constipation drugs destroys intestines.

    The taste of the cow urine is bitter, but people start like it after while.  

    Cow urine cleans nadas (energy channels), mind and subtle energies.  The best is to sit, because it may feel dizziness if mind is in cleaning process.

    It cleans so strongly that the best to drink cow urine only 100 – 150 gr once a day for only 4 days.  It is even more than needed to have the strong detoxification.  Organism will be cleaned, and intestine will release many things.
    After the course drink a lot of water,  the lightness in the body will come soon and the healthy light feeling will follow.

    The best this detoxify method to do after winter and after summer once or twice a year.

    Ghee

    Ghee made from cow milk butter is practically universal thing.  Ghee has golden color, sun color.  The energy in the ghee is from sun and Jupiter.  This is why ghee is the strongest in effectiveness.

    Ghee heals all diseases related to air and fire in the body.

    Ghee is used to prepare various medicines.
    Ghee property is that it can penetrate into the deepest levels of the subtle body structures.
    Ghee is pure and if kept clean it can stay very long.
    The longer ghee stays the stronger it becomes with effectiveness.
    If ghee stayed for 100 years, it heals all diseases.

    How to know if ghee was 100 years old?  In India generations keep old ghee from generation to generation.  This old ghee is hard like rock.  This is the indicator that ghee has 100 year.  It is boiled in water for long time to melt the ghee for use. The preparation of ghee is used as basis for ayurvedic herbs. Those preparations are secret healing medicine. Little rock of 100 years ghee is very expensive with the price like diamond. Those are medical secrets kept from thousands of years.

    Ghee that stayed for a year has more power than fresh ghee.
    Even fresh ghee has amazing properties to be used everywhere.  The good idea would be to make a jar of ghee and leave it for many years. In the old age it will be useful.
    Properly prepared ghee has nutty flavor fragrance. If ghee has sour smell, the ghee is spoiled.
    Ghee has to have pleasant fragrance.  The middle golden layer is extracted for ghee leaving top foam and residues. It can be extracted with tools.

    The better ghee when used farmers fresh butter, natural, organic.

    Ghee heals migraine, brain blood circulation, chronic back pains, diseases related to digestion; pains related with cold, like neck, back, muscles.  It can be applied on points or massaged in.

    There are two types of healing. One is prophylactics and second is medical.

    Prophylactic healing.  Oils massages into soles of feet for a night.  All organs’ centers exist in the soles of the feet. When you massage the oil into soles and feet, the heat in the feet appears showing that heat, fire is started.  You don’t need fat, only the fire that started.  Wait for a while and wash the fat off. Fat is not needed.

    Apply ghee on the hands. The most important is the heat that started, energy in feet and hands.  There are points to apply ghee on the head to stop headache, only of the headache is not from cold.  It helps to increase immune system, but headache may still be there.

    Cold can be healed with oil, black pepper and mustard to chew, cold will be killed.
    If to chew ghee slowly stomach will be healed.  Also to heal stomach problems ghee can be swallowed.

    Western Antibiotics are in tama guna (dark mode), it actually heals one and harms another.

    When working with computers eyes are tired and it is beneficial to wash (drops) eyes with warm milk (boiled not raw). Milk has very good energetic for eyes. Every hour move away from computer and make exercises for eyes. Rose petals tea to use for drops in the eyes are very healing.

    Milk energetic value is most important, even pasteurized or other it is ok if no mild from farm is available.  The milk energies are important.

    Milk always to boil, it is necessary to destroy germs.

    The best to find a nice person in market and make a deal to ask to provide the fresh milk from this person.

    When legs has seizures, ghee applied will help, because the seizures in legs cause is vata (wind)


    Cow’s products are essential to human race and cows are gift to humanity.
    No reason to kill cows only bastards do.

    Humility should be applied to use this knowledge to lead nations properly.


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    Post  devakas Wed Mar 16, 2016 10:05 pm

    it seems we in the West are very dark in knowledge, full of ignorance, very far away from nature, understanding nature. hmm..

    Here is interesting law in details in the article saying a lot about the magnitude of crime we are allowing in West.

    Slaughter of the cow and its progeny is banned in most of India; the consumption of their meat is also largely prohibited.
    3,7,10 years jail, fine up to Rs 1 lakh. Sale of canned beef and beef products, and export of cows for slaughter banned.

    http://indianexpress.com/article/explained/explained-no-beef-nation/

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    Post  devakas Wed Mar 23, 2016 9:11 pm

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    Actually to become vegetarian is the first step to purify heart towards true freedom from madness. It is worth it. There is no other way to heal the 'world' only to start from ourselves. It appears this is the way. There will be madness always till each of us not make the steps to free ourselves from cruelty, no love to all living beings.

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    Post  devakas Sat Mar 26, 2016 8:58 pm

    http://www.ferocesmente.com/society/denmark-bans-halal-and-kosher-meat-as-animal-rights-come-before-religion/

    Denmark bans halal and kosher meat as animal rights come before religion, interesting response.

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