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    Post  newel Sun Oct 16, 2011 6:33 pm

    Communist Party U.S.A. in Solidarity with Occupy Chicago
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avG4LgTF0ho
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    Post  newel Sun Oct 16, 2011 9:26 pm

    #OccupyWallSt Poster Boy A Trust Fund Baby, Attempted Stowaway At JFK

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8h58uE6hGok


    http://tv.breitbart.com/occupywallst-poster-boy-a-trust-fund-baby-attempted-stowaway-at-jfk/
    A Breitbart.tv investigation has uncovered that the man whose epic meltdown video at the "Occupy Wall Street" protests went viral is really Edward T. Hall III. Mr. Hall is a Columbia graduate student who has a trust fund set up by his grandfather. He recently made headlines for trying to board a flight at JFK airport by hopping the ticket counter and diving onto the baggage carousel.

    He was charged with trespassing and is free on "conditional release."
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    Post  investigator Sun Oct 16, 2011 10:49 pm

    I'm hoping hes a clueless offspring of a Nouveau riche, instead of being an tptb instigator on purpose, but the "the third" part doesn't help.


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    Post  enemyofNWO Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:39 am



    BULLDUST ! That journalist doesn't know anything . People are fed up of going to peaceful demonstrations that are routinely ignored by the controlled mass media , the TV stations and the government . In Italy works like this . Corrupt members of government make important decisions that disregard the interests of the majority of the people without consulting the affected parties. When people oppose the government dictats and protest , those protests are ignored by the presstitutes and the government . Instead of negotiating or listening to the protest the government sends the police with batons. Now there are a lot of people fed up with peaceful demos that achieve nothing and are taking the law into their hand and I don;t blame them . The government actions over period of times have been violent , the usual tactic is to send the police baton in to eliminate dissent . The population was never consulted on the participation on the war in Libya , it seems that killing libyan people is not a violent act according to the government apologists . Recently , due to the measures to cut cost ( austerity measures ) the government has reduced pensions and increased the age of retirement . Again no consultation , just nothing . But parliamentarians can retire on a good pension with only one term in office . People are just fed up with the corrupt government and institutions . From what I hear the public schools have practically run out of money already and the Police Union is asking citizens to contribute 1 euro so that the police can buy petrol ! I put the link in a previous post on this thread . I admire the black BLOCK , they are young people committed to fight the rotten system !
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    Post  mudra Mon Oct 17, 2011 5:49 am

    Co-opting Attempt At OCCUPYWALLSTREET w/ NYTimes

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41gnRmGIkKg


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    Post  mudra Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:45 am

    'Occupy': A catalyst for change?
    As anti-greed protests spread to cities across the world, Inside Story examines the movement's goals and its impact.


    The 'Occupy' movement is holding gatherings around the world as protesters meet in the financial centres of several cities. The movement's central site, United for Global Change, says 951 cities in 82 countries will participate in rallies.

    Dozens of protesters were arrested in New York as thousands marched through the city's financial district before moving on to Times Square. Protests were also held elsewhere in the US and Canada, notably in Washington DC, the US capital.

    And several cities across the world - from Tokyo to Alaska via London, Frankfurt and Washington - held demonstrations in a show of solidarity with the rallies that began last month in New York.

    But does the movement have a defined agenda? Could it be a catalyst for change? And at what price?

    Inside Story, with presenter Mike Hanna, discusses with Mark Bray, an organiser and media team member of 'Occupy Wall Street'; Alessio Rastani, an independent stock broker; and Dean Baker, the co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy research.

    Arrow http://english.aljazeera.net/programmes/insidestory/2011/10/2011101672419294658.html

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    Post  Carol Mon Oct 17, 2011 12:51 pm

    It seems to me something like this was predicted by time traveler John Titor but not on the global scale that this is taking off on. My concern is this. Look at how well organized this effort is. 951 cities in 82 countries will participate in rallies? It takes a lot of coordination, time and money to organize something like this. So who are the organizers and what is their underlying purpose? What are they hoping to gain?

    It appears that the global financial situation is a mess because of the current corrupt global banking system. Yet, what is going on here? Who controls the global banking system? These criminals are not going to go off in the night quietly. In fact, they should be identified and prosecuted. Their funds should be confiscated and given back to the countries they stole the money from... particularly since a major portion of funds are the result of criminal home financing banking practices... this money should go back to the home owners to refinance with a one time fee, home mortgage loan. Forget any long term interest rates.

    Next, the different countries need to have Sovereign control over their own money which in turn needs to be backed by something of value (i.e. gold or commodities - such as oil, that "must" be reside in the country of origin). For example the US has enough oil to pay off all its debt and where citizens would never have to pay taxes again. Yet who claims ownership of this oil? There is no reason why congress, or the governments of other nations can't claim proprietary rights via eminent domaine to claim their own countries natural resources for the benefit of its own citizens. Who says these commodities are to be owned by the few to benefit the few? This is just nuts. And even in countries ruled by royalty, most leaders understand that they are meant to be stewards to their people. Whether they are stewards or not is another matter altogether, yet it is mutually beneficial to care for one another in a society that understands family values and the optimum value with regard to the continuity of humankind.

    So back to the question, who is behind this massive organizational global campaign? Is this a trap? Are the underlying intentions of the organizers, the funding body of this effort, to create global change with respect to establishing a One-World Banking with One-World currency? This is just one of many conjectures.

    We read how people across the globe are furious at being fiscally exploited and are coming into the awareness of who is responsible for the situation. Yet - behind each fiscal institution are individuals who make decision that are of personal benefit to themselves and the few. So who are these people?

    Next - are the politicians who are in bed with the few and allow this type of fiscal tyranny and exploitation to exist. Who are the watch dogs? Or are there any left other then the people who are waking up to the sad sorry fiscal mess (high cost of housing, lousy housing market financing, high credit interest rates and one banking service fee after another) that they have become entrapped within?

    In fact, the reality of owning a home is that under all of the legalize is the word tenant.

    U.S. citizens need to examine the UCC (United Commercial Codes.) We've been raped of our rights of ownership...thank you corrupt ignorant politicians and banker criminals.

    QUOTE:

    Subject: Do You Know Who Owns Your Car?

    If you or anyone you know is anticipating purchasing a new car then you need to read the information below. Very revealing what we don't know and take for granted. It actually applies to your "house" as well as you are only a "tenant in common" and are basically leasing it "for the property tax". Even if you have the house "paid for" it is not yours. Check it out!

    This is true for any state...

    On February 10, 1987, Tennessee Department of Revenue Operations Supervisor Denise Rottero told Judge Geer how Tennessee's auto registration works.

    The process begins with the "surrender" of the Manufacturer' s Statement of Origin (MSO) by the auto dealer to the Department of Revenue in exchange for Certificate of Title. Asked if a MSO is proof of ownership -Legal title -to the automobile. Ms. Rottero said, "Yes"

    "Are you telling me that the ownership of an automobile is NOT title; it's merely evidence that title exists.

    Your car's legal TITLE is the MSO, which the dealer surrendered to the state. Ms. Rottero said the MSO is put on microfilm for permanent keeping, the original destroyed.

    After the trial, spectators expressed shock that their personal automobiles were actually owned by the state. "No wonder state law officers stop people for no reason!" said a housewife. "If your car's got a Tennessee plate, it's theirs, and they can do anything they like to you." That's the law, but it's volutary, No one but Judge Greer has dared say that if you don't surrender your car to the state in exchange for plates, you go to jail.

    Ed. Note: This is true not only for Tennessee, but for the other 49 states as well. When purchasing a new automobile, the buyer is required to sign fine print which authorized the dealer to obtain plates and registration for the vehicle. Purchaser need only to read this fine print to see that by doing this they are authorizing the dealer to act a power of attorney, and by doing so the prospective buyer is signing away his rights to that vehicle. When buying a used vehicle, the title already has been signed over to the state.
    - From The Investigative Reporter, October 1996

    I suspect as more and more people wake up to how they are being fiscally raped, that this dissent movement shall grow. It will trickle down to the identical of corrupt bankers, stock market financiers and politicians. In fact, it would not surprise me if some of these people are identified and become hunted. Nor would it surprise me if citizens take the law into their own hands as politicians in office - due to their own self-interests, refuse to abide by the laws that exists which allow this type of pervasive ongoing fiscal corruption to continue without being called to task. What we are seeing is a fiscal global civil war - WWIII, which started in 2008 with the US bailout of fiscal institutions at the total fiscal expense of its citizens. This type of trickle-down economics harms everyone. To use a metaphor - What has happened is similar to pouring chlorine into a swimming pool. Which part of the pool doesn't have chlorine in it? Only in this example the pool is our global economic system. The chlorine, the corrupt banksters and politicians.

    Global outrage may just be the human filtration system needed to clear up this mess but we all know that corruption at the top trickles down to the bottom. So to make things right, where there is fairness at the local level what does one do? In a true democratic system the top must be rotated on a regular basis where no personal financial gain is allowed. This was how the U.S. Constitution was set up and unfortunately became corrupted by those who served and by Big Business who helped pay for political campaigns. And this is why I think the whole politician campaign process is flawed from the onset and needs to be restructured.



    Having a background in systems theory helps one understand how we are all inter-related and co-dependent. Basically, we need each other so that we may evolve and become consciously aware of others existence. We must expand beyond a micro-vision of self to a macro-vision of global. This is one planet and we are one human species. Our differences is what makes us interesting to one another and allows us the opportunity to learn and grow as individuals. Perhaps this global fiscal unrest is the catalyst to humankind's awakening because we (collectively) are becoming aware of just how pervasive fiscal corruption is and have finally come to the end of our collective rope. Perhaps it's time to lasso those individuals and negative entities that feed off of this situation - those who perpetuate this human misery; and take true evil to task.


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    Post  burgundia Mon Oct 17, 2011 1:15 pm

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    Post  burgundia Mon Oct 17, 2011 2:11 pm

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    Post  mudra Mon Oct 17, 2011 2:27 pm

    Oops sorry Burgundia . I had'nt noticed you already posted Chris Hedges's video .
    I edited it and am posting an article of his instead :

    A Movement Too Big to Fail by Chris Hedges + This one could take them all down
    Posted on October 17, 2011


    There is no danger that the protesters who have occupied squares, parks and plazas across the nation in defiance of the corporate state will be co-opted by the Democratic Party or groups like MoveOn. The faux liberal reformers, whose abject failure to stand up for the rights of the poor and the working class, have signed on to this movement because they fear becoming irrelevant. Union leaders, who pull down salaries five times that of the rank and file as they bargain away rights and benefits, know the foundations are shaking. So do Democratic politicians from Barack Obama to Nancy Pelosi. So do the array of “liberal” groups and institutions, including the press, that have worked to funnel discontented voters back into the swamp of electoral politics and mocked those who called for profound structural reform.
    Resistance, real resistance, to the corporate state was displayed when a couple of thousand protesters, clutching mops and brooms, early Friday morning forced the owners of Zuccotti Park and the New York City police to back down from a proposed attempt to expel them in order to “clean” the premises. These protesters in that one glorious moment did what the traditional “liberal” establishment has steadily refused to do—fight back. And it was deeply moving to watch the corporate rats scamper back to their holes on Wall Street. It lent a whole new meaning to the phrase “too big to fail.”
    Tinkering with the corporate state will not work. We will either be plunged into neo-feudalism and environmental catastrophe or we will wrest power from corporate hands. This radical message, one that demands a reversal of the corporate coup, is one the power elite, including the liberal class, is desperately trying to thwart. But the liberal class has no credibility left. It collaborated with corporate lobbyists to neglect the rights of tens of millions of Americans, as well as the innocents in our imperial wars. The best that liberals can do is sheepishly pretend this is what they wanted all along. Groups such as MoveOn and organized labor will find themselves without a constituency unless they at least pay lip service to the protests. The Teamsters’ arrival Friday morning to help defend the park signaled an infusion of this new radicalism into moribund unions rather than a co-opting of the protest movement by the traditional liberal establishment. The union bosses, in short, had no choice.
    The Occupy Wall Street movement, like all radical movements, has obliterated the narrow political parameters. It proposes something new. It will not make concessions with corrupt systems of corporate power. It holds fast to moral imperatives regardless of the cost. It confronts authority out of a sense of responsibility. It is not interested in formal positions of power. It is not seeking office. It is not trying to get people to vote. It has no resources. It can’t carry suitcases of money to congressional offices or run millions of dollars of advertisements. All it can do is ask us to use our bodies and voices, often at personal risk, to fight back. It has no other way of defying the corporate state. This rebellion creates a real community instead of a managed or virtual one. It affirms our dignity. It permits us to become free and independent human beings.
    Martin Luther King was repeatedly betrayed by liberal supporters, especially when he began to challenge economic forms of discrimination, which demanded that liberals, rather than simply white Southern racists, begin to make sacrifices. King too was a radical. He would not compromise on nonviolence, racism or justice. He understood that movements—such as the Liberty Party, which fought slavery, the suffragists, who fought for women’s rights, the labor movement and the civil rights movement—have always been the true correctives in American democracy. None of those movements achieved formal political power. But by holding fast to moral imperatives they made the powerful fear them. King knew that racial equality was impossible without economic justice and an end to militarism. And he had no intention of ceding to the demands of the liberal establishment that called on him to be calm and patience. “For years, I labored with the idea of reforming the existing institutions in the South, a little change here, a little change there,” King said shortly before he was assassinated. “Now I feel quite differently. I think you’ve got to have a reconstruction of the entire system, a revolution of values.”

    read on: https://dandelionsalad.wordpress.com/2011/10/17/a-movement-too-big-to-fail-by-chris-hedges/

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    Post  Carol Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:02 pm

    On October 15th Occupy TVNY met with Pullitzer prize-winning author and journalist Chris Hedges in Times Square, New York City where tens of thousands of people assembled on a global day of action. Chris shares his feelings on where the Occupy movement has come from and where it is heading.

    Excellent.


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    Post  mudra Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:07 pm

    Could Occupy Wall Street be infiltrated by political groups?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D983q4xOnZg


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    Post  mudra Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:54 pm

    George Carlin Predicts Occupy Wall Street's Philosophy

    The world has been without George Carlin for over three years. But his influential stand-up comedy continues to resonate with themes in our society that will never go out of style: inequality, social mores, hypocrisy and disenfranchisement, to name a few. And based on this clip from his 2005 special "Life is Worth Losing," Carlin would likely be marching with protesters in the Occupy Wall Street movement, or at least supporting them from afar.

    Even after spending the majority of his life's work writing and performing stand-up comedy intended to expose inherent absurdities in our modern world, Carlin continued to do more new material than the most prolific of today's stand-ups, with the exception of Louis C.K., who heeded that lesson from Carlin.

    In this clip, from 2005's "Life is Worth Losing," Carlin approaches themes that could very well serve as the Occupy Wall Street Manifesto in 2011. While not as tight as the Seven Words You Can Never Say on Television -- the comedy bit that got him arrested for indecency -- his diatribe against shadowy elites in politics and finance are just as relevant as any routine from Carlin's heyday.

    You know something? [Wall Street] will get it. They'll get it all from you sooner or later, 'cause they own this f***in' place. It's a big club, and you ain't in it. You and I are not in the big club. ... The table is tilted, folks. The game is rigged. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good, honest hard working people ... continue to elect these rich c***suckers who don't give a f*** about them.

    Carlin died only a few months before President Obama was elected. We wonder what wisdom old George would have spoken were he alive today.

    Arrow http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/03/george-carlin-predicts-occupy-wall-street_n_992725.html

    George Carlin ~ The American Dream

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acLW1vFO-2Q


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    Post  Carol Mon Oct 17, 2011 5:51 pm

    Oct 17, 7:40 AM EDT - BEIJING (AP) -- China's foreign ministry said Monday the Occupy Wall Street movement highlights issues that are worth considering, but that debates generated by the protests should promote global economic growth.

    The movement began a month ago in Manhattan's Zuccotti Park with loosely organized protests against what demonstrators consider unbridled corporate greed.

    It has swelled to include demonstrations on Saturday elsewhere in the U.S. and in Europe involving hundreds of thousands of people. In China, online calls for similar protests did not appear to elicit any responses.

    "We feel that there are issues here that are worth pondering," said Liu Weimin, a foreign ministry spokesman during a regular briefing in Beijing.

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    Post  mudra Tue Oct 18, 2011 5:52 am

    Occupy Montreal : October 15 Protest

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eaatBXkGRI


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    Post  Carol Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:48 am

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    http://ireport.cnn.com/open-story.jspa?openStoryID=682030#DOC-684739
    Open Story: Occupy Wall Street protests enter 2nd Month

    Protests that began on Wall Street last month have gone global
    Similar efforts have sprung up in Boston, Chicago, Los Angeles and Seattle
    The movement is leaderless and its members have various reasons for demonstrating
    (CNN) -- A spirited and leaderless protest in the Wall Street section of New York that started last month has inspired a growing number of demonstrations acoss the world.

    The protests, dubbed Occupy Wall Street, began on September 17 as hundreds of people descended on the streets of Manhattan's financial district. Since then, the movement has spread to dozens of other cities. And, on October 15, the movement went global with protests in dozens of countries.

    The movement, which is modeled after social-media-driven demonstrations in the Middle East, aims to raise awareness about the role financial institutions played in the continued economic downturn affecting the world markets, and to show their discontent at the lukewarm attempts to prosecute those at fault. Demonstrators are also rallying against the state of the war in Afghanistan, the state of the environment, and a wide array of other domestic and international issues.

    Occupy protests spread worldwide: Read more on www.CNN.com

    (CNN) -- Thousands of people across the world railed against corporate power, grinding poverty and government cuts Saturday as the Occupy Wall Street movement spread to the streets of Europe, Asia and Australia -- and took a particularly violent turn in Rome. Firefighters battled a blaze at an Interior Ministry building near Porta San Giovanni in Rome, the main gathering site of the Italian protesters taking part in the Occupy movement Saturday, said eyewitnesses who reported seeing a Molotov cocktail thrown near the building.

    The protests spread amid the growing financial crises for several Western countries. Finance ministers with the Group of 20, meeting in Paris, pledged Saturday to take "all necessary actions" to stabilize global markets and ensure that banks are well capitalized.

    Europeans turned out amid debt troubles and austerity plans in Greece, Belgium, Italy, Spain, Ireland, Portugal and Germany.

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    Post  devakas Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:47 pm

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oapAE4XzaH4&feature=player_embedded



    Wendy Davis October 17, 2011 at 08:48
    I want to say that I am so outraged at the sight of this. I would like to apologize to this young lady for the sheer brutality she experienced and that I hope she presses charges that place this man in prison, so he will be among his peers, other criminals, in the general population.

    Cops beating on young girls seems to be the constant in these revolutions. It is high time we women speak a little louder for the children we say we love so much. It is time for fathers and mothers and grandparents, the clergy and the war veterans to stand up and fight the fight these kids are being forced to do because of our ignorance and apathy displaced while on the path that has brought us here.

    Rock stars, where are you? Enjoying generous dividends? Working for the machine? Selling the rights to your music to megalo-corporations – we called that SELLING OUT and YOU SANG THE SONGS!

    It’s utter nonsense what is going on. NONSENSICAL!!! Where are the high achievers in education? Where is your VOICE!!! Have you cashed in on our misfortune as well? There is no excuse for the state of things today. This is beyond greed, if we thought that would be possible. Evil thrives when good men do nothing – that is what has happened. It’s high time this be addressed once and for all.
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    Post  Carol Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:32 pm

    A different perspective by Bill Whittle

    Three and a Half Days (Oct. 13, 2011) VIDEO http://www.pjtv.com/?cmd=mpg&mpid=56&load=6158


    Occupy Wall Street: Neo-Hippies or Tea Party with Bongos? VIDEO: http://www.pjtv.com/?cmd=mpg&mpid=56&load=6158
    It's beginning to look like Barack Obama wants to Occupy Wall Street, even though he has taken millions in Wall Street money, and even bailed out the banks. Trifecta wonders whether there might be some legitimacy to the protesters complaints, especially those relating to student loans and the job market. Should Trifecta join the protesters? Find out.


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    Post  newel Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:07 pm

    Saturn / Satan - Arab Spring to American Fall - Human Microphone or Neuro Linguistic Programing?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ludVEKOWhKw


    Satan Behind Occupy Wall Street?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCV4WSegGF0
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    Post  mudra Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:19 pm

    OWS - Just Keep Doing What You Are Doing

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvvnM7wjzLY


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    Post  mudra Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:44 pm

    Looks fishy to me.. What a good way to tarnish the image of a peacefull movement.

    Arrow http://www.rtl.be/info/votreregion/bruxelles/830347/qui-a-saccag-les-locaux-occup-s-l-galement-par-les-indign-so-vid-o-

    Translation below :

    For two months the indignados walked through the heart of Europe. On 15-O, they were joined by outraged Belgians for a march on the EU institutions.

    The mayor of Koekelberg lamented over the extensive damage in a University building made available to the Indignados.
    The indignados claim to have respected the University premises that they were given to sleep, by the mayor of Koekelberg : "It was well managed"

    October 16, 2011

    The mayor of Koekelberg MR, Philippe Pivin, decided to make available unused space of the Hoge Universiteit of Brussels for the Indignados who did'nt know where to stay. For a week, between 400 and 500 people were housed in the premises without any problem erupting. But Saturday morning, police found the place completely trashed: tags were placed everywhere, library books thrown to the ground and all the cupboards emptied.

    "Well organized"
    The Indignados had to leave the premises on Saturday afternoon. 500 of them spent the night at Jubilee Park. They do not support the version of the mayor of Koekelberg, and believe that the buildings were already unhealthy before their arrival. "We have seen that things were well organized at the University, even if other information was relayed. From the beginning, there were water leaks because the building was unsafe. So immediately dry toilets were put in place and we organized ourselves differently for showers. We found the water where we could, same for electricity, "said a member of the movement.

    No problem before the night of Friday to Saturday
    For its part, the police think it was the indignados which ransacked the building as they had access to it. However, nearly a thousand more people gained access to the premises on Friday night to Saturday, including those outside the movement. "Over a thousand people came from all over Europe. Previously, there was indeed one or the other inscription in chalk on the tables, but that was all," said the head of the area Brussels police West, joined by our editorial staff.

    There were police in case of problems
    The premises were accessible to everyone, in fact, there was much police presence around the building, but officials did not ensure safety, they served only as contact people if necessary. It is therefore difficult at present to know exactly if the troublemakers are European indignados , or people outside of the movement.

    The word "Respect" was tagged
    "There is feces around the toilets. Why not use the toilets ? It's funny, there are places where the word 'Respect'," was tagged. ironized the mayor of Koekelberg, visibly annoyed. "The building was unoccupied for a year but was in good condition. We clearly agreed that only the first floor would be occupied. But they have occupied eight floors, which were ransacked," still lamented the mayor.

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