Occupy Wall Street $eptember 17th

great photo gallery from OWS

http://www.wired.com/rawfile/2011/10/political-hackathon/

art at the former building of JP Morgan & Co

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/09/artists-occupy-wall-street-for-a-24-hour-show/
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I think it belongs on this thread. OWS explained here:

http://www.activistpost.com/2011/10/obama-and-congress-are-wall-street.html


As Occupy Wall Street protests intensify around America, it's important to examine possible solutions.




Eric Blair
Activist Post

Barack Obama and his 2008 presidential challenger John McCain both received more money from Wall Street donors than their combined lifetime government salaries. It was a billion-dollar-plus campaign. In fact, all of Congress makes more from Wall Street and corporate campaign contributions than their public salaries. It is the nature of the modern political system. And Timothy Geithner, despite cheating on his own taxes, was plucked from the New York Federal Reserve to serve as U.S. Treasury Secretary. So who can the People turn to for solutions?

Some very well-meaning people have suggested apparent solutions to alleviate some of these challenges. Some have called for a separation of money and politics. Some have called for ending the Federal Reserve System. Some have suggested a complete write-off of all fraudulent debt. Some want higher taxes imposed on the well-to-do. Some demand more free government services like healthcare and higher education. Some say ending the wars at home and abroad will be the cure-all. Each of these proposed solutions seem to have some attraction, but they also have flaws that need to be addressed.

Remove Money from Politics:

In theory the separation of money from politics makes sense. Some have put forward the idea of publicly financed campaigns, which would certainly level the playing field for everyday citizens to compete in elections against generations of elite public servants. However, this theory is much like the failed war on drugs -- if there is a demand for something, there will always be a supply no matter how many walls are built. If there is a demand for corporate influence on policy, their money will always find a way over those walls. They may buy direct advertising to advocate for a certain policy, or simply buy unaccountable government regulators to do their dirty work -- both of which already occur.



End the Fed:

Congressman Dennis Kucinich, who is widely respected as one of the only champions of the people and the Constitution left in government, suggests absorbing the Federal Reserve Bank into the U.S. Treasury to print and spend interest-free money into the economy. Although this may be one of the best short-term solutions, Geithner and the executive branch will then control the issuance of currency. Although they are more accountable to the People, they still represent the status quo where the same cabal will likely benefit. Similarly, presidential candidate Ron Paul wants to end the Fed, but first by legalizing competing currencies so that no single entity wields power over the issuance of money. Presently, either of these actions would be a huge step forward in resolving our current bondage to debt-based monopoly money, but they are still merely just the beginning of reform.

Complete Debt Forgiveness:

I have been one of the advocates for a complete write-off of all fraudulent debt, essentially hitting the economic reset button. This act would zap all of the power that the banking cartel has over governments and individuals. Although I truly believe this to be the only way out of this mess, it may require an entirely new free and fair financial structure in place when the button is pushed, or the same group of thugs will likely maintain their control over the system. A new monetary policy, banking system, credit rules, and stock exchange would have to emerge for such a reset to be effective. Perhaps an Economic Constitution is needed to lay the framework first.

Tax the Rich:

Those calling for higher taxes on the wealthy may have their heart in the right place, but this is perhaps the worst of the proposed solutions. This will change nothing fundamental about the system that enslaves the peasants. Secondly, at this point, who could trust the legislation to only target the elite who hide their assets offshore anyway? And, pragmatically, increasing taxes on the rich won't even make a dent in the astronomical national debt, future obligations, or even current expenditures. Taxing the rich will not create long-term jobs or solve the problem of how the money is created or spent. More short-term tax revenue may only encourage more government, more spending on wars, the surveillance state, financial bailouts, and subsidies for mega-corporations. Notably, taxing short-term speculative Wall Street trades (some version of the Tobin tax) seems to have some validity. But in the end, this just gives more money to a disgustingly corrupt government which will still be heavily influenced by big corporations.

Free Education and Healthcare:

Understandably, it only seems fair that if society can produce untold trillions for war and bailouts of fraudulent industries, there should be enough money to educate and maintain the health of its citizens. Still, free healthcare and education has become synonymous with socialism in our modern society because money must be taken by force from someone else to pay for these "free" services. Sure, in a perfect society one should have the equal freedom to pursue any level of education based on desire and ability without concern for cost. And certainly, no one should die or go bankrupt because they lack adequate healthcare. However, this ultimately becomes a question about the role of government, and the Constitution currently does not give the authority to provide for such services. Then again, it also doesn't allow for undeclared wars and corporate bailouts either. No matter what it will be called, or how it will be paid for, until society determines that the health and education of its populace is of utmost importance, it will remain an ill society. An entirely new system may need to be dreamed up for this to work for everyone.

End the Wars:


Yes, yes, and yes. End the foreign wars. End the phony war on "terror". And end the war on drugs. They only benefit those funding the wars (with interest) and the pirates who the government gives the spoils to. Because no average citizen ever wants war, it leads some to believe that all wars have been baited by these beneficiaries -- and they wouldn't be wrong. Unfortunately, for too long we have taken the bait and they have gotten their spoils. It is time to stop this insanity. Significantly, this is one of the only practical solutions that will have minimal blowback. It will save trillions in public spending and immediately bring more harmony to the planet. However, America will face the very real challenge of creating new employment for returning soldiers, contractors, and laid-off weapons manufacturers, as well as DEA agents, prison guards and others who participate in perpetuating the war on drugs. So, even though ending all wars is the only sane policy, by itself it is not a silver bullet for economic woes.

Indeed, these are exciting and transformative times, and the People will eventually get what they ask for. However, they must be careful in what they ask for because the same power structures that they're currently protesting may ultimately end up with more power. Unless, of course, part of the solution is to remove the corporate state's power to coerce people in the first place. Therefore, a good place to start may be to demand more personal freedom while curbing the rights of multinational corporations and the government itself.

Regardless, the enormity of the problems require that many groundbreaking proposals are put forward and examined.

So everything on earth is controlled, orchestrated, manipulated. perhaps it is...so what?? So should we just sit and do nothing????? Then someone will say that that sitting and doing nothing is a psy-op.

The Occupy Movement is a stand against Corruption & the Elite

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32aiugcfFQQ


Love Always
mudra

Thanks mudra...great video by Greg Arturo.

burgundia wrote:So everything on earth is controlled, orchestrated, manipulated. perhaps it is...so what?? So should we just sit and do nothing????? Then someone will say that that sitting and doing nothing is a psy-op.

Nationwide PROTEST Media Asked to Leave Before Tents Crushed By Garbage Trucks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWjCvXX9PfY


Love Always
mudra

So who will now bomb USA to introduce democracy there?

'Occupy' Banking Protests Set To Spread To London
12/10/11

Protests against the global financial system which have seen huge demonstrations in New York's Wall Street will spread to the City of London this weekend.

A number of campaign organisations, including direct action group UK Uncut, say they will support an occupation of the heart of the capital's financial centre on Saturday as part of a "global movement for real democracy" to highlight social and economic injustice.

The Occupy London Stock Exchange collective said a Facebook page on the protest had attracted more than 9,000 followers, with more than 3,500 confirmed attendees.

read on: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2011/10/12/occupy-banking-protests-s_n_1006368.html?1318395983

Love Always
mudra

malletzky wrote:

burgundia wrote:So everything on earth is controlled, orchestrated, manipulated. perhaps it is...so what?? So should we just sit and do nothing????? Then someone will say that that sitting and doing nothing is a psy-op.

Hahaha!! I know I know!.. it's very funny! But seriously, all we have to do now is to find our Lenin and put him at the helm of this movement and make sure our PERMITS to protest from the various cities don't expire- big trouble! 'Sound Money', 'my job', 'my America' my, my my.... Oh, we do have a new Lenin!- Ron Paul. My apologies to any of You- friends if this post displeased any of You. I just go by the feeling... The film Ungrip offers a potential solution, thank You Mudra for letting us know about it. And the first half of the Zeitgeist Moving Forward shows one of the main tools being used against us and the planet- MOONEY $$$$. And we still want it, just in a different form, the 'Sound Money', and we want our (most of the time) useless, robotic jobs back..We demand from our Daddy (govern/mente) all of that in those protests. I do realize however that people are fed up and super angry (I am not excluded) and our so called low vibrational emotions are being harvested and channelled by the real 'creators' that know and practice a thing or two from the 'mind controll science'. Perhaps Humanity should really look at the ways some Human beings still live in Jungles and how Native people of America used to or various tribes of european continent. We are doing ou best to get organic food on our tables... how about oranic Life devoid of machines. I know...:) it sounds a bit hypocritical, duh.. Earthian you are using that very machine youre talking about eliminating from Life to send this very message to friends, and you drive.. etc. But what about Telepathy, Teleportation, Telekinesis and such, I do believe they are real. I've seen with this eyes I have in the head I am wearing a guy levitating things. This forum alone contains so much info on how to go back to that way of living... the trouble is- we are stuck in this monetary system.
..I am actually thinking of taking a heroic dose of 5 dried grams that Terrence McKenna suggested and Bill Hicks was so vigorously talking about during his shows and see if I could get 'filled in' about what is REALLY going on
Cheers.

From a friend:

Hi Lovers

This is the result of redeeming the token/BC(birth certificate).

You will come out with your freedom like you do when you redeem a token when playing, or want out of, monopoly. As long as you play that game you are not free. How can you be when your sitting in a chair at a table?. So when one quits the game, e.g. by way of redeeming the token the only thing the player walks away with is his freedom. He has no debts to settle because that is part of the game as are the houses and cars and all that stuff.

What greater thing do you value than your freedom?

Now if you think you are entitled to more than your freedom, I believe that mindset will or is what is blocking us from being free of the game.

If your freedom is not good enough then you will be in the game. How do you know what comes with freedom from the game? You don’t but you know the burdens of playing the game, monopoly.

I think at the end of the day what binds us most is we want more than life and freedom. I am confident that with freedom comes the gifts and love of God that Father. That they will flow to us or fall in our lap. Oh ye of little faith.

When Neo was asked what he wanted he said Peace.

Actually, if the US citizens pulled their money out of all of the Big Banks and put it into their local credit unions, that would be step one.

Now if Credit Unions could refinance houses, that would be the second step... or take out a loan at the credit union at 7% interest to pay off all credit card debt that currently at 15% - 28% monthly interest - that would be a huge step into the gouging profit taking of major credit card industry.

Next... get a line of credit at your local credit union and use that with 7% interest instead of ANY credit card that is at a higher interest rate. Or borrow from your IRA to pay off credit card debt and pay yourself back. The goal - to be credit card debt free and use local Credit Unions for banking business.

It's time to take our business elsewhere and dump the major banks.

This is from Lindsey Williams who explained what is going on in the Middle East which helps one understand why the regimes are being removed.

Very briefly as background, Henry Kissinger made a deal with the Middle East some decades ago that we would make them wealthy beyond their expectations by buying their oil. In return, they were to take a portion of their income from oil sales and buy our debt by purchasing Treasury securities, T-Bills, etc..

The U.S. would then produce but a pittance of oil in this country although the U.S. has literally enough oil in this country to last 200+years. Now the elite are going to double cross the Middle East and OPEC.

The current crisis was initiated by the CIA using paid agitators in Egypt. The crisis will spread to the ENTIRE Middle East. Although they did not initiate current events, the Muslim Brotherhood is being supported by the elite in the crisis areas in the aftermath. Once Iran and Saudi Arabia fall, oil will soar.

Between the ongoing crisis and the continued decline of the dollar oil will go to $150-200 within nine months. When it gets close to the $200 level, the U.S. will cease to purchase Middle East oil. At that time the U.S. will produce oil from Gull Island in Prudhoe Bay and ANWR (Arctic National Wildlife Refuge) in Alaska, the Bakken Formation in the Dakotas and the Rocky Mountain shale oil. (He said "Below the Rocky Mountains are two trillion barrels of oil.)

The elite will then sell OUR $200 oil to us at the gas pump for $ 6-7. This will further devastate the American economy as Americans will be hard pressed to drive long distances to work, Truckers and airlines will be hard pressed to operate. The military will be badly affected.

Once we cease to purchase oil from the Middle East the Arab nations and Iran will go broke. The billions or trillions of Treasuries, dollars etc. held by the Middle East will become worthless when the dollar collapses next year.

China is not reliant on Middle East oil. Russia has surpassed Saudi Arabia as the Number 1 oil producing country in the world. This was accomplished by Russia drilling mega-wells (can’t remember the industry term) down to 40000 + feet and discovering essentially unlimited supplies of oil. Now Russia and China have entered into an agreement whereby Russia will supply ALL of China’s oil. The U.S. will not be able to buy from Russia forcing us to rely on our own oil production.

Again, there will be no food shortages in this country but the decline of the dollar will create hyper-inflation making food extremely expensive. He cited garlic as a recent example which doubled in price in one week. Have six-twelve months supply of emergency food (dehydrated) on hand. (As a side note to this FEMA has been buying dehydrated foods for a couple of years. Now one of the largest dehydrated food producers in the country announced last week they will no longer sell to the public as FEMA is buying 90% of their production.)

Lindsey said that Bush, Sr., CFR, was ambassador to China when China was a closed society and a closed market. Subsequently, Bush opened up China and it is now destined to replace the U. S. as the world’s super power. As a side note to the non-believers, Bush’s opening line in his speech after Desert Storm was “We now have a New World Order.” I (Lindsey) almost fell out of my chair to hear the leader of the world’s super power admit it.

China now produces 80% of all components for the U. S. military. When Caterpillar and other U.S. companies open plants in China they MUST turn over ALL patent rights to China. That’s but one of the costs of doing business in China. China is now using its excess dollars to quietly buy controlling interest in American corporations.

Essentially they own this country because money talks. Watch China and no one else to see what will happen.

The end game is to bring the U.S. into the NWO. This has been accomplished by shipping jobs and factories overseas and destroying the dollar. China will replace the U.S. as the world power. The Renminbi will no doubt replace the dollar in that regard. China will NOT dump the dollar or Treasuries but is co-operating with the U.S. to steadily depreciate the dollar.

Most of this will NOT happen in 2011. But the dollar will be dead by the end of 2012 at which time Lindsey believes a gold backed global currency will come into place along with a One World Government and the New World Order.

Lindsey asked that this info be passed to as many as possible in order that they might prepare.



Personal note to self: Purchase electric car and solar car port.

October 14, 2011 - Hundreds of Occupy Wall Street protesters -- emboldened by officials backing down this morning from evicting them from their Zuccotti Park campsite for a 7 a.m. cleaning -- stormed Wall Street, leaping over barriers and getting into a fracas with cops. he throng of protesters streamed onto Broadway, blocking traffic, setting up a confrontation with police who are waiting for them on the street.

Things turned predictably violent as cops tackled protesters and chased them up the street -- forcing everyone to the sidewalks -- in what turned into a melee.
"We were just marching. They're assaulting us," said protestor James Sinclair, 27.

BLOOMBERG ANGRY AT CITY OFFICIALS WHO 'THREATENED' PROTEST-PARK CLEANUP

WALL ST. MARCH TURNS VIOLENT
Police arrested at least eight people on Beaver Street, as a throng of protesters flipped over a police scooter on Broadway.
Cuffed protesters yelled, "The whole world is watching!" Shame on you!"
Five more were arrested at Maiden Lane and Water Steeet when protesters got into a confrontation with a police officer on a scooter. A protester's leg ended up under the officer's scooter.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/zuccotti_park_cleanup_postponed_7FyMGft7IABwkMxaEW1sYP#ixzz1alhr8A42