Occupy Wall Street $eptember 17th

mudra wrote:Looks fishy to me.. What a good way to tarnish the image of a peacefull movement.

It wouldn't surprise me mudra if someone paid agitators to show up at some of these demonstrations.

Occupy Vancouver answers "Where does money come from?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ahx-LPIkY4



Money As Debt
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2550156453790090544

metaw3 wrote:
Money As Debt
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2550156453790090544

If people want change, then they should show and explain this documentary to all 5th graders in their country. No protest needed. All problems solved within 15 to 20 years. The generation that gets educated on money creation will ban debt as money and achieve world peace. It's that simple. Real education, not protests.

metaw3 wrote:Essential Knowledge For A Wall Street Protester
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDeUsWsUhKU

Excellent metaw
Should be viewed by all the Occupy protesters worldwide.

Love from me
mudra

Thousands protest banks, corporate greed in U.S. marches- (Reuters) - Thousands of anti-Wall Street protesters rallied in New York's Times Square on Saturday, buoyed by a global day of demonstrations in support of their month long campaign against corporate greed. http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/15/us-usa-wallstreet-protests-idUSTRE79A41E20111015

“Occupy” protests force London’s St Paul’s Cathedral to close OCT 21, 2011 - London’s landmark St Paul’s Cathedral closed its doors on Friday because of hazards posed by hundreds of protesters encamped in front of it in a demonstration inspired by the Occupy Wall Street movement. Dean Graeme Knowles, a senior Church of England cleric, wrote an open letter to protesters asking them to leave the square peacefully, which they have occupied since last Saturday after initially targeting the nearby London Stock Exchange. http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2011/10/21/occupy-protests-force-londons-st-pauls-cathedral-to-close/

(Reuters) - About 130 protesters were arrested at an Occupy Chicago demonstration early on Sunday after they set up tents and refused to leave a public park after closing time, police said. http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/23/us-usa-wallstreet-protests-chicago-idUSTRE79M1W120111023

(Reuters) - Sat, Oct 22 2011 - Police broke up a Sydney protest camp inspired by the Occupy Wall Street movement in an early morning raid on Sunday, making dozens of arrests, police and protesters said.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/23/us-australia-protest-idUSTRE79M04620111023

(Reuters) - Anti-greed protesters rallied globally on Saturday, denouncing bankers and politicians over the international economic crisis, with violence rocking Rome where cars were torched and bank windows smashed.

Galvanized by the Occupy Wall Street movement, protests began in New Zealand, touched parts of Asia, spread to Europe, and resumed at their starting point in New York with 5,000 marchers decrying corporate greed and economic inequality.

After weeks of intense media coverage, U.S. protests have still been smaller than G20 meetings or political conventions have yielded in recent years. Such events often draw tens of thousands of demonstrators.

The demonstrations by the disaffected coincided with the Group of 20 meeting in Paris, where finance ministers and central bankers from major economies were holding talks on the debt and deficit crises afflicting many Western countries.

The Occupy Wall Street movement has gathered steam for a month, culminating with the global day of action. It remains unclear what momentum the movement, which has been driven by social media, has beyond Saturday.

Occupy Wall Street spreads to Asia - http://www.reuters.com/article/video/idUSTRE79E0FC20111015?videoId=222570434
Oct. 15 - Protesters in Seoul, Hong Kong and Manila join global demonstrations supporting the Occupy Wall Street movement. In the heart of one of the world's most prominent financial districts, protesters gather to express their frustrations with the global economy. Around 200 people gathered outside the Hong Kong stock exchange to protest, amongst others, the territory's staggering rich-poor gap. They say it proves the global financial system is simply not working. SOUNDBITE (English) ACTIVIST TOM GRUNDY "You've got more millionaires made last year in Hong Kong than any other place on earth and you've got people living in cages in Sam Sheu Po. You've got people making their living going through rubbish." This was just one of a series of protests across Asia on Saturday as the message of the Occupy Wall street movement resonated across the continent. In the Philippines, dozens marched to the US Embassy in Manila urging a change in the financial system. They held placards and streamers expressing their support for the Occupy Wall Street Movement. SOUNDBITE (English) NEW PATRIOTIC ALLIANCE SPOKESPERSON RENATO REYES "People call it socialism, people call it prioritising people over profits, whatever you call it, I think, the essence is that this time the people should be given priority over the profits of the big banks and the multinational corporations." And in South Korea's capital Seoul, more protesters gathered in front of the country's Financial Advisory Service. Some clashed with police as they attempted to post stickers reading 'business will be suspended' on the building doors. The Occupy Wall street movement which started in July in the US condemns economic inequalities blamed on flawed financial institutions. Sunita Rappai Reuters


Personal note: This is a real example of the zero down interest only situations. Due to a bankruptcy where one of the parents became ill and the family lost 50% of its income they eventually went bankrupt and lost everything including their home. 10 years later they pulled out of the bankruptcy, re-established their credit and qualified for a $650,000 mortgage loan with no down, interest only. 4 years later they have paid faithfully their monthly payments of $4,000. The bank has collected $192,000 in interest and nothing has been paid on the principal because the payments are so high, after taxes and the increase in energy and food, there isn't much left to survive on. Meanwhile, the housing market took a dive and the value of the home is closer to $450,000. Because the mortgage is so high and the new changes in getting a bank loan they don't qualify to refinance their home even though the annual income is around $100,000. At the current interest rate the house - if all of that money was going to the principal would be paid off in less then 15 years - yet they have a 30 year mortgage and will be dead before it is paid off.

Now there are those who say they shouldn't have bought such an expensive home in the first place. However, the house purchased was at the height of the housing market and a 40 year house with only 2 bedrooms sandwiched between two small houses sold for $550,000 the month before they purchase a new house on 5 acres. The thinking was that the house was a good investment against inflation and would be sold in 10 years with a tidy profit. Given the current economy - how likely is that to happen? In reading various reports on the housing market things don't look good even for long term investments and homes that were once worth $500,000 5 years ago are now being valued at $210,000 and 50% decrease.

It is clear that the economy has to make a major shift is who has the money and how it is to be managed. That a bank would even need a bailout speaks to mismanagement from the onset. And what most people do NOT KNOW is that each mortgage is insured so the bank NEVER loses the money from its investment. In fact, if the home is foreclosed upon the bank gets both the money from the insurance premium and the home to resell. Think about this. Clearly, something major is wrong from the onset as one would think that the homeowner would get the insurance to pay off the mortgage for the home, and not the bank.

There has to be a way to completely streamline this whole home mortgage process and eliminate the middle man where the homeowner benefits as compared to being financially ripped off at every level possible.

What I would like to see are small banks or credit unions give home mortgage loans at the local level where there is a one time fee as compared to years and years of interest rates.

By the way... the original bank in question who now has collected $192,000 in interest for doing nothing other then sending out the monthly bill is Bank of America. I'd like to know where all of that interest money goes.

'mic check' from Peter Joseph (Zeitgeist movement)

metaw3 wrote:Occupy Vancouver answers "Where does money come from?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ahx-LPIkY4



Money As Debt
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2550156453790090544

I thought it would be very relevant to post this link as well, for people to go through the site and see what is being discussed there http://freedomfromdebt.gettingstartednow.info/

Michel Chossudovsky is the President and Director of the Centre for Research on Globalization (CRG). He teaches Economics at the University of Ottawa and his books have been translated into over 20 languages

mudra wrote:

metaw3 wrote:Essential Knowledge For A Wall Street Protester
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDeUsWsUhKU


Excellent metaw
Should be viewed by all the Occupy protesters worldwide.

Love from me
mudra

David Icke was spot on:
VATICAN CALLS FOR 'CENTRAL WORLD BANK'
should please the “Occupy Wall Street” demonstrators
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3362-vatican-calls-for-central-world-bank

Personally, the EU, Asia and US could learn something from BUENOS AIRES, Argentina President Cristina Fernandez who under her presidency has experienced a major comeback for her country.

Quote:

"Since she and her predecessor as president, husband Nestor Kirchner, first moved into Argentina's presidential palace in 2003, the income gap between the country's rich and poor has been reduced by nearly half. Meanwhile, according to the International Monetary Fund's numbers for 2002-2011, Argentina's real GDP has grown 94 percent, the fastest in the Western Hemisphere and about twice the rate of Brazil, which also has grown substantially, economist Mark Weisbrot said.

U.S. President Barack "Obama could take a lesson from this," said Weisbrot, co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research in Washington. "It's an old-fashioned message of democracy: You deliver what you promise and people vote for you. It's kind of forgotten here in the U.S."

Read more at http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/L/LT_ARGENTINA_ELECTION?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-10-23-17-30-24

Rumor:

http://12160.info/profiles/blogs/u-s-military-warns-of-plot-by-federal-reserve-bankers-to-have-cia

U.S. military warns of plot by Federal Reserve bankers to have CIA mercenaries in Libya kill New York cops.

I have found an article that proves the false Iranian plot was just an diversion of the real truth. Read The entire article and prepare yourself for an up coming false flag attack in the U.S.



The Federal Reserve bankers have offered $billions to the CIA mercenaries in Libya to come to the United States and start a bloody rebellion. The Federal Reserve bankers sent Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to make their offer and terms. According to high ranking U.S. military officials the plot by the Federal Reserve bankers calls for Libyan mercenaries to enter the United States as guest of the Federal Reserve banks. Once on U.S. soil they are to hook up with CIA and DHS contacts and immediately prepare and execute their mission to start shooting New York City cops who are assigned to police the Occupy Wall Street protests. The Occupy Wall Street Protests have now entered its 2nd month and Barack Obama hasn’t forcibly put down the protests as he was instructed to do by the Federal Reserve bankers.



The Full Story

http://presscore.ca/2011/?p=4808

I just read that and was wondering who put out the rumor. Sorcha Faal?

Carol wrote:I just read that and was wondering who put out the rumor. Sorcha Faal?

No but it's just as well crafted as Sorcha Faal. It seems to originate from presscore.ca. It's a good story.

VIDEO: http://web.gbtv.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=19944729&topic_id=24584158

OWS spontaneous? Not so much
10/24/11 06:58
Glenn goes into the origins of the supposedly spontaneous Occupy Wall Street movement

I remember that tape from May when unions got caught planning violent protests to disrupt the financial world:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byHQhVyOdvo

Leftist “Economic Terrorists” Are Patsies For The Real Economic Terrorists

Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones
Infowars.com
March 23, 2011

The controversy generated around the remarks of former SEIU official Stephen Lerner and his plan to rally unions, lawmakers, student groups and community organizers around a plan to crash the stock market, destroy big banks and redistribute wealth in America by destabilizing the country will be exploited by the real financial terrorists when they decide to launch the next false flag attack on the U.S. economy.

Mortgage Strike secret revolt revealed SEIU Lerner FULL Uncut Version
22 Mar 2011
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnakdRdh7Es

http://www.fourwinds10.net/siterun_data/history/asia/news.php?q=1319473204

Red October

By A. True Ott, PhD – Oct. 21, 2011

It began as “peaceful protests” on the 17th day of September – the month of the Autumn Equinox (Sept. 21 – Mabron – a very special ritual day ordained by WICCA, Kaballa, and Pagan practitioners of Lucifer as the day of atonement and the “releasing of prisoners” – both political and economic.) The protest began at a specific city which was the financial heart of THE pre-eminent global capitalist “Republic” - a world-power center of wealth and influence unequalled in the entire world at that specific time. The nation, however, had been in a Great Recession for three years. Factories were closing their doors, and unemployment had reached 36%. The national debt to the world central bank was crippling in every way. Inflation had successful eroded the wages of the people by 50%. The future of this once great nation was bleak in every way.

The message of the “protesters” was a simple one – the “working people” were the unwitting slaves of BIG BUSINESS and COPORATE GREED – a mere 1% (the “ruling class) were robbing the “people” (the remaining 99%) of their wealth and property. It was not just a single day of protests, but was scheduled to last for many months. Eventually, the “movement” spread to every other major city in the country – as well as other foreign nations.

If you think I am describing the 2011 OWS (Occupy Wall Street) and America the Beautiful, you are wrong. I am reciting the exact history of the Bolshevik Revolution (Red October) that eventually dismantled the Russian Republic of Czar Nicholas.
According to Wikipedia: “Nationwide crisis had developed in Russia affecting social, economic, and political relations. Disorder in industry and transport had intensified, and difficulties in obtaining provisions had increased. Gross industrial production in 1917 had decreased by over 36 percent from what it had been in 1916. By September, as much as 50 percent of all enterprises were closed down in the Urals,, the Donbas, and other industrial centers, leading to mass unemployment. At the same time, the cost of living increased sharply. The real wages of the workers fell about 50 percent from what they had been in 1913. Russia’s national debt in October 1917 had risen to 50 billion rubles. Of this, debts to foreign governments constituted more than 11 billion rubles. The country faced the threat of financial bankruptcy.

In September and October 1917, there were strikes by the Moscow and Petrograd workers, the miners of the Donbas, the metalworkers of the Urals, the oil workers of Baku, the textile workers of the Central Industrial Region, and the railroad workers on 44 different railway lines. In these months alone more than a million workers took part in mass strike action. Workers established control over production and distribution in many factories and plants in a nation-wide social revolution.[1] By the end of October 1917 there had been over four thousand peasant uprisings against landowners.

At the end of October, (following all Hallow’s Eve) as the Russian weather turned bitter cold, the “protests” turned increasingly violent, and the “Revolution” began in earnest. The Russian Army and Navy refused to enforce “martial law” for the Czar, and instead defected to “The People” and took their orders (and large monetary bribes and promises) from Lenin and Trotsky.

Millions of Russian Christian people eventually died following these “Red October” protests and the resultant class-warfare. The entire family line of Czar Nicholas was summarily executed in cold blood genocide. Millions more of the CHRISTIAN “upper class” were either executed or imprisoned for life in Siberian gulags by the “Red Army” led by Vladimir Lenin and Leon Trosky. The “Soviet Union” was born.

Vatican economy advisor? Financial advisor? World suprabank? leaves me confused.. What Jesus would say?

Vatican calls for global authority on economy.
A 18-page document also calls for "Central World Bank"

* Condemns "idolatry of the market"

* Urges Wall Street to examine its impact on humanity

* Says reform should start under U.N. auspices (Recasts, adds more on document encouraging reform movements)

more
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/10/24/vatican-economy-idUKL5E7LO1LS20111024



Occupy DC Flash Mob Interrupts Union Station Event Featuring Walmart Executive Rob Walton

Jesus said:
"Give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar"
Are we ready already all ready?
Who/WHO is Caesar here and now?/.

The White House, Washington




Good morning,

It's part of my job to make sure President Obama gets to hear the voices and perspectives of people outside Washington – and lately, that's not been difficult.

Everywhere the President goes, he gets the same message: Americans just want folks in Washington to work together to build an economy that works for the middle class, not just the wealthiest – and is based on rewarding responsibility, hard work and fairness.

That's why the President has proposed the American Jobs Act, a set of bold but common-sense measures that will put up to 2 million Americans back to work and more money in the pockets of working Americans.

Unfortunately, Republicans in Congress keep blocking this bipartisan proposal, putting their party before our country.

We can't wait for Congress to act, so President Obama is moving ahead with executive actions to strengthen the economy, help middle class families and move this country forward.

On Monday, he was in Nevada to discuss concrete steps we're taking, like removing caps for deeply underwater borrowers and eliminating fees, so that homeowners can refinance their mortgages and save money. On Tuesday, he announced new initiatives that will help put veterans to work in community health centers. And today, he's proposing to offer immediate relief to college students by making it easier to manage their debt while they get on their feet.

These policies aren't a substitute for the American Jobs Act, but they will make a difference. And we don't intend to stop there.

The best ideas for growing this economy won't come from Washington – they'll come from Americans like you. So let me tell you about a new way to make your voice heard in our government.

More than 750,000 people have already used a new feature on WhiteHouse.gov called We the People to create and sign petitions calling on the Obama Administration to take action on a range of important issues. Learn more about We the People here:

The President's changes to the student loan program will make it easier for graduates to make their payments and avoid default.

It's also a great example of We the People at work.

In the past month, thousands of citizens signed a petition about student loans. These individuals rightly pointed out that the weight of this debt is preventing graduates all over the country from achieving their dreams.

It's a message received loud and clear and one that President Obama – who spent almost a decade paying off his own student loans – understands.

A new report shows that our investments in student financial aid have made a big difference for families, but too many students still struggle with debt. Today, the President announced clear actions to help young people who are doing everything right and living up to their responsibilities, but having a hard time making loan payments while the economy continues to recover.

So what else do you have? What's the next issue you think needs attention? Make sure your voice is heard in our government:

http://www.WhiteHouse.gov/YourIdeas

We can't wait to see what you have to say.

Sincerely,

David Plouffe
Senior Advisor to the President

And some folks wonder why U.S. citizens are pissed off. This was in my email today.


Cruz Construction started a division in North Dakota just 6 months ago.

They sent every Kenworth (9 trucks) they had in Alaska to North Dakota and
Several drivers.

They just bought two new Kenworth's to add to that fleet; one being a Tri
Drive tractor and a new 65 ton lowboy to go with it.

They also bought two new cranes (one crawler & one rubber tired) for that Division.

Dave Cruz said they have moved more rigs in the last 6 months in ND than
Cruz Construction moved in Alaska in the last 6 years.

Williston is like a gold rush town; they moved one of our 40 man camps down
There since there are no rooms available.

Unemployment in ND is the lowest in the nation at 3.4 percent last I checked.

See anything in the national news about how the oil industry is fueling North Dakota 's economy?

Here's an astonishing read. Important and verifiable information:

About 6 months ago, the writer was watching a news program on oil and one of
The Forbes Bros. Was the guest.

The host said to Forbes, "I am going to ask you a direct question and I
Would like a direct answer; how much oil does the U.S. Have in the ground?"

Forbes did not miss a beat, he said, "More than all the Middle East put Together."

The U. S.. Geological Service issued a report in April 2008 that only
Scientists and oil men knew was coming, but man was it big.

It was a revised report (hadn't been updated since 1995) on how much oil was
In this area of the western 2/3 of North Dakota , western South Dakota , and
Extreme eastern Montana .

Check THIS out:

The Bakken is the largest domestic oil discovery since Alaska 's Prudhoe Bay ,
And has the potential to

Eliminate all American dependence on foreign oil. The Energy Information
Administration (EIA) estimates

It at 503 billion barrels. Even if just 10% of the oil is recoverable( 5 Billion barrels), at $107 a barrel,

We're looking at a resource base worth more than $5.3 trillion.

"When I first briefed legislators on this, you could practically see their Jaws hit the floor.

They had no idea.." says Terry Johnson, the Montana Legislature's financial analyst.

"This sizable find is now the highest-producing onshore oil field found in
The past 56 years," reportsThe Pittsburgh Post Gazette.

It's a formation known as the Williston Basin , but is more commonly referred to as the 'Bakken.'

It stretches from Northern Montana, through North Dakota and into Canada .

For years, U. S. Oil exploration has been considered a dead end.

Even the 'Big Oil' companies gave up searching for major oil wells decades ago.

However, a recent technological breakthrough has opened up the Bakken's Massive reserves,

And we now have access of up to 500 billion barrels. And because this is
Light, sweet oil,

Those billions of barrels will cost Americans just $16 PER BARREL

That's enough crude to fully fuel the American economy for 2041 years straight..

And if THAT didn't throw you on the floor, then this next one should -
Because it's from 2006.

U.. S. Oil Discovery - Largest Reserve in the World

Stansberry Report Online - 4/20/2006

Hidden 1,000 feet beneath the surface of the Rocky Mountains lies the
Largest untapped oil reserve in the world.

It is more than 2 TRILLION barrels. On August 8, 2005 President Bush
Mandated its extraction.

In three and a half years of high oil prices none has been extracted.

With this motherlode of oil why are we still fighting over off-shore Drilling?

They reported this stunning news:

We have more oil inside our borders, than all the other proven reserves on Earth.

Here are the official estimates:

8 times as much oil as Saudi Arabia

18 times as much oil as Iraq

21 times as much oil as Kuwait

22 times as much oil as Iran

500 times as much oil as Yemen

And it's all right here in the Western United States.

HOW can this BE? HOW can we NOT BE extracting this? Because the
Environmentalists and others have blocked all efforts to help America become
Independent of foreign oil! Again, we are letting a small group of people
dictate our lives and our economy. WHY?

James Bartis, lead researcher with the study says we've got more oil in this
Very compact area than the entire Middle East, more than 2 TRILLION barrels
Untapped. That's more than all the proven oil reserves of crude oil in the
World today, reports The Denver Post.

Don't think 'OPEC' will drop its price even with this find? Think again!
It's all about the competitive marketplace, it has to.

Think OPEC just might be funding the environmentalists?


By the way, this can be verified. Check it out at the link below.

3 to 4.3 Billion Barrels of Technically Recoverable Oil Assessed in North Dakota and Montana’s Bakken Formation—25 Times More Than 1995 Estimate—
http://www..usgs.gov/newsroom/article.asp?ID=1911

http://lindseywilliams101.blogspot.com/

So what is their real agenda for bombing the crapola out of the middle east. Everyone felt it was for securing oil reserves?


Bibical prophecy comes to mind.


They have been suppressing this information solely for the purposes of greed to maintain a high price for oil and making trillions for the oil companies.

Occupy Wall Street - Problem Reaction Solution - OWNED!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTZ7hHCqICA


Love Always
mudra

this must be known to all

http://rt.com/news/uranium-birth-defects-fallujah-729/