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    Post  mudra Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:14 am

    NANUXII wrote:I would like to put something out there as im sure Evisnam would approve is in keeping with this thread.

    What about the boomerang ?     It only dawned on me recently the absolutely intense technology behind the making of a stick that flies and comes back to the point of origin.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boomerang

    It  has to be the most sophisticated hunting tool ive come across. And all from an indigenous people who were walking around with loin cloths and straw huts .....  

    The boomerang is over 50,000 years old !    Fifty Thousand Years Old !       and they designed a stick that uses aerofoil technology not only to fly but to change angle mid flight based on the change of air speed over the wing tips dependent on the angle of the boomerang.  

    UMMMMM !   is your brain hurting too  ?

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    What comes to mind Nanu as I read the above is the following:

    We create our own reality hence what we seed with the right hand or what we seed with the left hand comes back to us with pleasure or pain depending solely on our attitude and state of mind.
    As we seed so we harvest. As without so within. That is the law.
    The boomerang when you think about it is a marvellous  symbolic represention of this law.
    When we throw it with full consciousness and clear direction the boomerang is coming back effortlessly "in the flow".
    Would we throw it out if fear or ignorance it is  capable of cutting our head off upon return and destabilize us .
    Under that light I think its a good educative artifact Cheerful

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    Post  Carol Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:44 am

    Nice insights from both of you. Love the boomerang analogy.


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    Post  NANUXII Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:14 pm

    Here is a more illustrative video showing the vast agricultural capabilities the indigenous australians employed.


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    Post  NANUXII Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:54 pm

    In doing research on the gosford hieroglyphs i learned some things that when i put them into perspective was very interesting.

    We know that some Egyptians were buried with boomerangs .. the obvious question is " are they an egyptian invention ? " but the answer is No.

    They are an indigenous australian invention. Why ?

    Well several things i pieced together

    1: The Heiraknopolis tomb painting is dated to the Predynastic Period of Egyptian history (circa 3400 BC) depicting egyptian ships traveling to various continents. The deptiction of australia shows an indigenous australian holding a boomerang. ( Lower right hand corner )

    Photo here https://i.servimg.com/u/f64/19/70/37/64/heirak10.jpg


    This is obviously a reference map.


    2 : The word for boomerang in aincient egyptian was " silah 'ajnabiun " meaning " foreign weapon "


    What is so interesting about this to me is that its obvious that ancient cultures created trade routes to far away lands and they traded with indigenous australians and from what i can gather had a mutual respect.


    The whole idea of international trade thousands of years ago i find remarkable. The obvious skills ancient cultures had is far more than what we give credit some times. It also leads me to believe that historical technology is purposely skewed to hide that fact there was an obvious program to de evolutionise humans or at least some sort of reset done by ... well beings that wanted to reverse the un natural injection of technology that obviously built the pyramids etc.

    I am trying to imagine what it would have been like back then ... When the visitors were here and when they flew around , making plans , creating great monuments etc. You can see how powerful an impression it made on humans .. so much so that they called them god's.


    Hmmmmm...


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    Post  NANUXII Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:22 pm

    hello misties !

    i have come across an interesting documentary which shows a more logical method of construction in egypt and thence world wide. while the doco tries to debunk alien intervention it leaves big gaps in evidence and also does not account for our un natural evolution. what it does do is explain how the rocks were made and placed so precisely. it also confirms my suspicion they were super heated and even cast into formation as a type of concrete.

    What is hard to believe is they used the pyramids of egypt as their evidence. such a complex task is still not possible without advanced technology.

    In short the documentary does illustrate the method that would have been used but the tools they say carried them out i do not find plausible.




    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMAtkjy_YK4



    very interesting


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    Post  Vidya Moksha Sat Jan 30, 2021 1:38 pm

    NANUXII wrote:hello misties !

    i have come across an interesting documentary which shows a more logical method of construction in egypt and thence world wide.  while the doco tries to debunk alien intervention it leaves big gaps in evidence and also does not account for our un natural evolution. what it does do is explain how the rocks were made and placed so precisely.  it also confirms my suspicion they were super heated and even cast into formation as a type of concrete.

    What is hard to believe is they used the pyramids of egypt as their evidence. such a complex task is still not possible without advanced technology.

    In short the documentary does illustrate the method that would have been used but the tools they say carried them out i do not find plausible.



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMAtkjy_YK4

    very interesting

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    Glad I didnt miss this. Wow... if this is real. what a game changer eh? I sent to a stone mason friend of mine, will be interested in his take.

    works for me.
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    Post  Carol Sun Jan 31, 2021 11:24 am

    Great info NANUXII. I think the current game changer is the inter-galactic Guardian Alliance who are taking out all of the DUMBs and cleaning out the reptilians among other that have infested the planet for thousands of years.

    Below is well worth watching. Excellent.




    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na9-idqSOl0&feature=youtu.be
    1.29.21 PSF Scott McKay & Gene DeCode Discuss Deep Underground Military Bases... With Cirsen W


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    Post  Vidya Moksha Tue Feb 09, 2021 3:06 pm

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    Post  NANUXII Wed Feb 10, 2021 7:22 am

    Vidya Moksha wrote:
    NANUXII wrote:hello misties !

    i have come across an interesting documentary which shows a more logical method of construction in egypt and thence world wide.  while the doco tries to debunk alien intervention it leaves big gaps in evidence and also does not account for our un natural evolution. what it does do is explain how the rocks were made and placed so precisely.  it also confirms my suspicion they were super heated and even cast into formation as a type of concrete.

    What is hard to believe is they used the pyramids of egypt as their evidence. such a complex task is still not possible without advanced technology.

    In short the documentary does illustrate the method that would have been used but the tools they say carried them out i do not find plausible.



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMAtkjy_YK4

    very interesting

    Ha! Look who's back online...
    Did I miss anything?

    Glad I didnt miss this. Wow... if this is real. what a game changer eh? I sent to a stone mason friend of mine, will be interested in his take.

    works for me.



    only parts of that video i think are accurate are the use of concrete and the method of super heating rock. The part about humans building them i think is ambitious to say the least. If human egyptians created the pyramids 4000 years ago why hasnt their advanced technology maintained a logical time line since ? Because they didnt build the pyramids ... imo they were already built between 70,000 to 300.000 years earlier by extra terrestrials.

    If you look at the basalt rocks they used in meso america to build their amazing structures it looks to me the rocks were super heated with some sort of microwave technology. If you notice int he video below they all bulge around the middle ... and fit perfectly. I postulate this is a method of carefully super heating the rock till it becomes soft to its center by projecting a microwave beam into the rock.






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    Post  NANUXII Wed Feb 10, 2021 7:37 am

    Carol wrote:Great info NANUXII.  I think the current game changer is the inter-galactic Guardian Alliance who are taking out all of the DUMBs and cleaning out the reptilians among other that have infested the planet for thousands of years.

    Below is well worth watching. Excellent.




    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na9-idqSOl0&feature=youtu.be
    1.29.21 PSF Scott McKay & Gene DeCode Discuss Deep Underground Military Bases... With Cirsen W



    I heard from Ashtar Command via special inter galactic fax that all the evil christian and roman catholic churches are being arrested for 2000 years of rape and murder.

    i tried to find a photo of pope st john being escorted by police to or from the pope mobile to articulate this most true fact, but alas wonder woman hasnt posted it yet.


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    Post  Vidya Moksha Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:38 am

    NANUXII wrote:
    only parts of that video i think are accurate are the use of concrete and the method of super heating rock.

    The part about humans building them i think is ambitious to say the least. If human egyptians created the pyramids 4000 years ago why hasnt their advanced technology maintained a logical time line since ?  Because they didnt build the pyramids ... imo they were already built between 70,000 to 300.000 years earlier by extra terrestrials.

    I had the same doubts when I watched it. I guess the pyramids were built by an ancient civilization but i couldnt have put any time scale on that.

    The video also made no attempt to address the geo-location around the globe, at precise points. A bunch of wandering nomads accomplished this? Impossible.

    I think the thing that caught my eye and my attention was the molten stone cast able in forms..if such a feat was possible then I have no problems believing humans capable of such a task. I did wonder how wooden boards would stand up to molten rock Wink

    I always imagined an advanced technology built the pyramids.. but if you can melt stone.. the rest isnt that advanced.  
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    Post  NANUXII Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:17 pm

    Vidya Moksha wrote:
    NANUXII wrote:
    only parts of that video i think are accurate are the use of concrete and the method of super heating rock.

    The part about humans building them i think is ambitious to say the least. If human egyptians created the pyramids 4000 years ago why hasnt their advanced technology maintained a logical time line since ?  Because they didnt build the pyramids ... imo they were already built between 70,000 to 300.000 years earlier by extra terrestrials.

    I had the same doubts when I watched it. I guess the pyramids were built by an ancient civilization but i couldnt have put any time scale on that.

    The video also made no attempt to address the geo-location around the globe, at precise points. A bunch of wandering nomads accomplished this? Impossible.

    I think the thing that caught my eye and my attention was the molten stone cast able in forms..if such a feat was possible then I have no problems believing humans capable of such a task. I did wonder how wooden boards would stand up to molten rock Wink

    I always imagined an advanced technology built the pyramids.. but if you can melt stone.. the rest isnt that advanced.  


    The engineering requirements to build the pyramids are so advanced that modern day engineers would have a really hard time trying to replicate it ... to be honest i dont think they could. Not just my opinion ... if you go back a few pages there are some even better videos that explain what i mean.

    this one best explains the mathematics behind the pyramids of giza. I think youll really enjoy this one , its not got the egocentric slant the previous one has.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fS9ixfQ_no


    totally mind boggling and im sort of a makeshift mathematician ( self professed )


    Regarding super heated rock interfacing with other materials. I would postulate their advanced technology works similar to when you heat soup in a clay bowl inside a microwave. If youve ever done that you may notice the soup comes out hot but you can touch the bowl with your hands. The bowl has two unique characteristics. It has very little moisture in it which is whats needed to conduct the microwaves for heating.. its also in contact with the pyrex dish which will absorb some of the heat from the bowl.

    now if you project my crude example onto an advanced tech then its possible to pin point the symbiotic frequency of a particular medium , in this example being, lets say granite... and heat it to a pliable state without effecting wooden form work. Mind you the wooden form work only had to withstand cement which is easy to do.

    I think they would have projected a type of microwave into the center of the rock which heated it from the middle out. The rock would then become pliable .. sort of like a cube of hubba bubba or Plasticine. The top of the bottom rock typically had a concave shape to it and the top rock being heated would then form its self perfectly to the shape of the bottom rock making its base convex. The sheer weight of the rocks with its concave / convex mating is pretty much earthquake proof. Ingenious !



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    Post  Carol Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:21 am

    NANUXII wrote:

    I heard from Ashtar Command via special inter galactic fax that all the evil christian and roman catholic churches are being arrested for 2000 years of rape and murder.

    i tried to find a photo of pope st john being escorted by police to or from the pope mobile to articulate this most true fact, but alas wonder woman hasnt posted it yet.


    geek


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    Hah! In truth the Pope was executed after a military tribunal along with numerous cardinals and others involved in human trafficking, the torture and murder of children and production of Adrenochrom. Your research needs to go deeper luv. Dozens of declass documents have been posted by military intelligence on their different Telegram Communication Channels regarding all of this.

    Check out GhostEzra Defense Clandestine Service Defense Intelligence Agency..
    https://t.me/GhostEzra/1318

    https://anonup.com/@GhostEzra

    http://www.gab.com/ghostezra


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    Post  Vidya Moksha Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:40 am

    NANUXII wrote:
    this one best explains the mathematics behind the pyramids of giza.  I think youll really enjoy this one , its not got the egocentric slant the previous one has.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fS9ixfQ_no
    totally mind boggling and im sort of a makeshift mathematician ( self professed )

    Regarding super heated rock interfacing with other materials. I would postulate their advanced technology works similar to when you heat soup in a clay bowl inside a microwave. If youve ever done that you may notice the soup comes out hot but you can touch the bowl with your hands. The bowl has two unique characteristics.  It has very little moisture in it which is whats needed to conduct the microwaves for heating.. its also in contact with the pyrex dish which will absorb some of the heat from the bowl.

    I think they would have projected a type of microwave into the center of the rock which heated it from the middle out. The rock would then become pliable .. sort of like a cube of hubba bubba or Plasticine.   The top of the bottom rock typically had a concave shape to it and the top rock being heated would then form its self perfectly to the shape of the bottom rock making its base convex. The sheer weight of the rocks with its concave / convex mating is pretty much earthquake proof. Ingenious !

    This is a good summary, but nothing new in there for me. I was based just outside of Ollantaytambo for 3 months,…. and couldn’t resist a visit to ‘sexy woman’ (according to my terrible Spanish).  

    I worked as an ecologist back in the days before pc’s.. all we ever did was convert animals into numbers so we could run stats on them. I saw the stats packages and computer models develop. And they epitomise all that is wrong with science, in that they build castles on sand.

    Science is mankind’s attempt to describe something he didn’t create. I have the same feeling for maths. I see no straight lines in nature (crystals excepted.. certainly not in biological life).. Damn useful tools though. Mainstream science has stopped being a tool for knowledge and is now the broken crutch of a spurious dogma.  But the tools are there for all who care to use them.

    Anyway.. I digress, back to tools.  The problems of cutting such any block so exactly and fitting it so perfectly are seemingly insurmountable to us. When you take in account the scale..the available tools and perceived tech,  its ineffable. But ONLY assuming the blocks were cut, transported, finished and laid. But what if they weren’t?

    what if none of the blocks were cut? (Did I really just say, ‘what if?’ twice? I do apologize, starting to do an oxy in here.. )  
    None of them! It is a plausible explanation as long as there is some method of achieving this. I have never owned a microwave, but I understand the principle Wink

    Whether a bunch of wandering nomads could achieve this, well…

    So, …..replicate it with tools and tech of the time!  shouldn’t be too hard.. did they attempt to do this? I remember part of the document showed how they could sail the world on reed boats, but this is not news. Have the video makers attempted to recreate this? I am only just back online (a step forwards or backwards?) and I don’t have much spare time now, but I will look for any follow up.

    But even if they could do this, the workforce required would still be staggering. As would be the precision of build.
    Maybe they used copper forms? They could pour the copper into a mould of any shape.

    Seems unlikely. But melted stone.. for sure!

    My take away from all this has actually changed my view of the pyramids! I am convinced the rocks were poured, super heated on site. I still think it was done by an ancient global advanced society. Couldn’t possible guess at a date for that.



    Carol wrote:Hah! In truth the Pope was executed after a military tribunal along with numerous cardinals and others involved in human trafficking, the torture and murder of children and production of Adrenochrom. Your research needs to go deeper luv. Dozens of declass documents have been posted by military intelligence on their different Telegram Communication Channels regarding all of this.

    Check out GhostEzra  http://www.gab.com/ghostezra


    I could never abide facebook, and I did create a gab account (quite like it in there) and was looking at this feed before your posts.

    I truly hope I have to bake the biggest humble pie, but I don’t think I will.

    WHO? Is arresting anyone? We know 911 was fake, who did what? We know the reasons for the iran war was faked.. who did anything?
    Global warming is a scam of monstrous and dangerous proportions? Who cares? Covid is a diabolical hoax and scam. Folk are fighting for the death shot.  WHO is doing anything? WHO cares? We already know the banksters have all countries by the balls. WHO cares?
    We know the banksters cheated when they elected madam president, to be shocked at the scale of such a loss to trump… their algorithms couldn’t beat it! Who did anything? Well, it may be that trump did something, watermarked ballots etc.. but who cares? Not the courts, most of whom are throwing it out. (not all, I still hope there may be some redress for the incredible fraud that just happened in the US trump is winning cases that are heard, not all, but enough) WHO will do anything? Trump had 4 years to sort it, and couldn’t. They rigged the ballot even more absurdly this time, it’s a joke.. a real scam. Unbelievable actually (until you take into account the words I wrote in this paragraph).

    There is a huge factor in this: The banksters have the inmates running the asylum.  Q followers have their own ward.. . but I will tell you tomorrow.. no, tomorrow no,  tomorrow no, …yawn.

    I can sort all this tomorrow, as a bankster, I start a global war. End of problem. Banksters win. They can soft kill the majority with the covid jab, whilst making trillions in snake oil cures. Or they can hard kill with wifi update. Banksters win.

    WHO? Is coming to help?

    Anyone remember fukushima? WHO is sorting that potentially global extinction event(or do we all get a free pass to the south pole?)

    Its all a psy-op based around the fact that all this is true:


    Carol wrote: and others involved in human trafficking, the torture and murder of children and production of Adrenochrom.


    The banksters are evil. What they are doing to children needs to be exposed for what it is. Trump did amazing work to reduce this. He never started a war (i see syria's gonna get f cked again now)..

    I’ll take the humble pie please. The world needed a trump win.

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    Post  NANUXII Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:03 am

    Carol wrote:
    NANUXII wrote:

    I heard from Ashtar Command via special inter galactic fax that all the evil christian and roman catholic churches are being arrested for 2000 years of rape and murder.

    i tried to find a photo of pope st john being escorted by police to or from the pope mobile to articulate this most true fact, but alas wonder woman hasnt posted it yet.


    geek


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    Hah! In truth the Pope was executed after a military tribunal along with numerous cardinals and others involved in human trafficking, the torture and murder of children and production of Adrenochrom. Your research needs to go deeper luv. Dozens of declass documents have been posted by military intelligence on their different Telegram Communication Channels regarding all of this.

    Check out GhostEzra Defense Clandestine Service Defense Intelligence Agency..
    https://t.me/GhostEzra/1318

    https://anonup.com/@GhostEzra

    http://www.gab.com/ghostezra


    i cant tell if you missed the sarcasm or not ... if i wanted to dig it wouldnt be in your pit ... yawn
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    Post  NANUXII Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:50 am

    vidya moshka wrote:
    Science is mankind’s attempt to describe something he didn’t create.

    nice line ! and ditto btw.


    Regarding your comment on the stones being poured , i think a mix of cut and poured is plausible. I say cut because the slabs in the pyramid are all odd sizes... would be harder to make 2.5 million casts and then pour them, unless they were modular but wood could not withstand the heat of molten rock.... I think they were cut and then heated to fit , some were cast yes but the bulk of the interior were cut. The precision of the shafts inside the pyramid would have to have been poured over form work.

    Unless the shafts were super heated by a machine that could take a pre defined form and tunnel in a straight line whilst vitrifying the walls as it went and pushing the excess material out the end of the shaft , then sealing the shafts with heavier pre cut stones. We are talking about advanced tech so the imagination is probably closer to fact imo.

    Making a cast out of copper is not likely , its melting point is about 1080 deg c , melting point of granite is about 1230 deg c and basalt is between 900 and 1250 deg c. I believe a cast was made yes , but out of what ? pouring molten rock into a copper cast would pretty much ruin the cast after one or 2 pours if not destroying it all together. If a cast was made from something that could withstand continuous heats of over 1000 deg c , only thing that could do that is a sort of tungsten alloy .. good for around 3400 deg c. But then how did they make the cast !? rocks and copper chisels ? pfft lol

    Reason i say this is because they have found cutting swarf marks on the rocks , swarf marks, in case, are the marks left by a rotary tool when cutting a medium.

    There are un finished rocks with a perfect cylinder cut into it but un finished .. they show what appears to be swarf marks from what we would call a diamond drill. Thats actually in the video i suggested for you.

    Most of my professional life was as an engineer , both chemical and mechanical with a focus on reverse engineering and fuzzy logic, hence why i am so fascinated by the pyramids and im delighted to converse with someone with a scientific background !



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    Post  NANUXII Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:12 am

    Regarding when they were made , i say between 75 and 37 k years ago because they were all aligned to the equinox of Leo. You dont go that far into making structures aligned to an astrological form without being able to align to the planetary movements, which were obviously very important.

    The energies we dont understand come into play here , obviously something they knew about alignment.

    I also said could be over 300,000 years because thats when the neanderthal became extinct and homo sapiens started to emerge. I think that was the result of an extra terrestrial eugenics/genetic engineering program.  Must have been , there is no way neanderthal could evolve to homo sapien in such a short time ... it would take some 10 to 15 million years for that to take place imo.

    I also further postulate that the extra terrestrials who changed our dna originally 300,000 years ago might be a totally different race to the ones who occupied egypt etc 30 to 70k years ago ...

    mind you limestone takes 100 years to erode 0.5 mm  70,000 years would only account for 35 mm ...  i think the casings were thicker than that ...


    hmmmm


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    OH ! I almost forgot , ive been having premonitions the last 4 to 5 weeks of something major starting in late March 2021 , possibly around the 20th ... Something to do with covid shenanigans which then lead into a banking run. I think it may be the banks will revoke cash asset guarantees, then shortly after that bank accounts and retirement funds will be raided , similar to what happened in greese. It may make crypto sky rocket .. or crypto might be targeted as well.

    I feel quite strongly about this one , so much so that my partner and i have taken all our paper and crypto assets and put them into tangibles.

    When i get these premonitions i must have at least one or two more coordinates to coincide with it and i have found them .. its created a marker for me.

    So if you got cash in banks get it out and get it out now. If what i think is going to happen your paper money is going to lose value very fast. Tangibles like slv or gold are a no brainer.

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    Post  Vidya Moksha Fri Feb 12, 2021 1:22 pm

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    OH ! I almost forgot , ive been having premonitions the last 4 to 5 weeks of something major starting in late March 2021 , possibly around the 20th ...  Something to do with covid shenanigans which then lead into a banking run.  I think it may be the banks will revoke cash asset guarantees, then shortly after that bank accounts and retirement funds will be raided , similar to what happened in greese. It may make crypto sky rocket .. or crypto might be targeted as well.

    I feel quite strongly about this one , so much so that my partner and i have taken all our paper and crypto assets and put them into tangibles.

    When i get these premonitions i must have at least one or two more coordinates to coincide with it and i have found them .. its created a marker for me.

    So if you got cash in banks get it out and get it out now. If what i think is going to happen your paper money is going to lose value very fast. Tangibles like slv or gold are a no brainer.  

    I'm on it. I have the same idea. I have a selection of good hand tools.. though i have a small solar set up for some power tools. I have some legal paperwork / land registrations to sort out, and I am hoping to do it before the crash. lockdown is a pain.

    I still dont get the gold /silver thing. Good hand tools, other tools/ equipment, food, seeds, construction materials for me every time. these are real tangibles. But then i have no surplus cash to invest.
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    Post  Vidya Moksha Sat Feb 13, 2021 9:43 am

    NANUXII wrote: Regarding when they were made , i say between 75 and 37 k years ago because they were all aligned to the equinox of Leo. You dont go that far into making structures aligned to an astrological form without being able to align to the planetary movements, which were obviously very important.

    I also said could be over 300,000 years because thats when the neanderthal became extinct and homo sapiens started to emerge. I think that was the result of an extra terrestrial eugenics/genetic engineering program.  Must have been , there is no way neanderthal could evolve to homo sapien in such a short time ... it would take some 10 to 15 million years for that to take place imo.

    mind you limestone takes 100 years to erode 0.5 mm  70,000 years would only account for 35 mm ...  i think the casings were thicker than that ...

    Thanks for those ^, I am unaware of time scales. the theory of Evolution does not stand any serious scrutiny. i mentioned castles on sand. that is intergalactic space cruiser on sand. i was always staggered how many fellow scientists accepted such nonsense.. i think the 'survival of the fittest' and 'natural selection' changes swayed them. prokaryote cells from a mud soup? unreal.

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    The energies we dont understand come into play here , obviously something they knew about alignment.

    I also further postulate that the extra terrestrials who changed our dna originally 300,000 years ago might be a totally different race to the ones who occupied egypt etc 30 to 70k years ago ...

    we share similar views here. ^

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    Reason i say this is because they have found cutting swarf marks on the rocks , swarf marks, in case, are the marks left by a rotary tool when cutting a medium.

    There are un finished rocks with a perfect cylinder cut into it but un finished .. they show what appears to be swarf marks from what we would call a diamond drill. Thats actually in the video i suggested for you.


    i was aware of them, and have always held the belief the stones were cut by some tech unknown today.. I would like to see the earliest photos of these ^ cuts and bore holes . Can we be sure it wasnt the work of modern tools in the last century or so?
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    Post  NANUXII Sun Feb 14, 2021 1:46 am

    the following video seems to explain some of the cutting tools used.




    while watching that i had an idea .. what if the creators of the pyramids used cymatic ultrasonics to shape super heated rocks into the amazing structures we see in their work.

    They could have used powerful ultrasonic waves to levitate stones as well.

    heres some videos on their machination.


    Cymatics can be used to force shapes into molten material





    And ultrasonics to move and 3 dimension-ally shape them as well. possibly a combination of the two technologies.


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    Post  Vidya Moksha Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:21 am

    I will have a look at the video. I think I am covering old ground here. I looked at this way back, 15-20 years ago. In my bubble the stones were cut by an unknown tech (I since revised my idea) and lifted by some form of sonic levitation.

    I look at the core drilled into the rock and my mind instantly thinks 'core sample'. Probably because i have taken thousands of core samples in my life.. but usually in mud and earth..

    I need to be convinced that the saw cuts and bore holes were made at the same time as they built the pyramids. I think they could have been done later. even modern times.
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    Post  NANUXII Sun Feb 14, 2021 1:41 pm

    Vidya Moksha wrote:

    I need to be convinced that the saw cuts and bore holes were made at the same time as they built the pyramids. I think they could have been done later. even modern times.


    I used to ride a track on the fire trails in Therry Hills ( northern beaches of sydney ) A friend took me once and showed me indigenous australian rock carvings. I spent a fair bit of time examining them , some 2 years.

    I found one on the trail in sandstone of a kangaroo but on close inspection i could see it was done by a kanga gun , like a small hand held jack hammer. Besides the obvious diamond tip chip marks you can see where the kanga over shot the end of the tail by about 5 cm. Typical of that machine.

    However the ones i found depicting space craft and a man in a suit and helmet with a belt ( space suit ) were genuine. Obviously done with a rudimentary tool, possibly a rock using sand as an abrasive.

    One thing i noticed in that tube drilling video , the statues that have been in museums also show this tube drilling technique.18 min 30 sec you see the same tube marking on a very important statue. Im finding it hard to believe that was done as an afterthought,


    hmmmm


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    Post  NANUXII Sun Feb 14, 2021 1:56 pm

    I still dont get the gold /silver thing.

    Gold does not make you money.. it freezes its value and stops it from depreciating.

    eg : if you had say 50,000 cash in a bank account in 1990 And you were saving it to buy a nice sports car , a harley davidson motorbike and a holiday, in 1990 you could get all 3 and have some change left over. fast forward to 2010 and that 50 grand wouldnt cover the sports car ... let alone the rest.

    If you had 50 k in gold bullion however fast forward to 2010 and you could get all 3 easily.


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    Post  Vidya Moksha Mon Feb 15, 2021 1:37 pm

    NANUXII wrote:One thing i noticed in that tube drilling video  , the statues that have been in museums also show this tube drilling technique.18 min 30 sec you see the same tube marking on a very important statue. Im finding it hard to believe that was done as an afterthought,
    I was thinking a curious egyptologist might be responsible for the cores. But I see they are too numerous. And indeed that video is what I was looking for.
    The tech needed to drill the core in a spiral is pretty impressive. Or as suggested, hard tip plus some sonic resonance...And there are reliable accounts from more than 130 years ago.. (more reliable than todays accounts).

    which puts the pyramids well beyond 12k years ago and I acknowledge your time scales, above. Im still going with poured / microwaved blocks.. but if you want to put super high tech on the table, todays sci-fi tech, then anything is possible...

    I would have needed some similar tech to carry 50kg of gold in my backpack. I think the last time i had any spare cash was the late 80's. I turned down some bitcoin one time..wayyy back... (always a keen eye for a deal eh?) but then the chances of me having the hard drive or password today are virtually zero. And when tshtf there wont be an internet anyway.
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    Post  NANUXII Mon Feb 15, 2021 3:16 pm

    Vidya Moksha wrote:
    NANUXII wrote:One thing i noticed in that tube drilling video  , the statues that have been in museums also show this tube drilling technique.18 min 30 sec you see the same tube marking on a very important statue. Im finding it hard to believe that was done as an afterthought,
    I was thinking a curious egyptologist might be responsible for the cores. But I see they are too numerous. And indeed that video is what I was looking for.
    The tech needed to drill the core in a spiral is pretty impressive. Or as suggested, hard tip plus some sonic resonance...And there are reliable accounts from more than 130 years ago.. (more reliable than todays accounts).

    which puts the pyramids well beyond 12k years ago and I acknowledge your time scales, above. Im still going with poured / microwaved blocks.. but if you want to put super high tech on the table, todays sci-fi tech, then anything is possible...

    I would have needed some similar tech to carry 50kg of gold in my backpack. I think the last time i had any spare cash was the late 80's. I turned down some bitcoin one time..wayyy back... (always a keen eye for a deal eh?) but then the chances of me having the hard drive or password today are virtually zero. And when tshtf there wont be an internet anyway.


    Yes spiral cuts on hard rock mean only one thing ... immense hard work pressure or weight on the cutting tool. For a spiral to be cut into the rock there would have to be at least 1 tonne of pressure behind that cutting tool.

    Check this link out

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    this is from all reports a real artifact. Top left is what looks to be a type of helicopter. Now lets pretend it is one ... what sort of payload do you think it was designed to carry ?

    It also depicts the helicopter flying behind what looks to be an un finished obelisk, you can see the front of the machine is behind the obelisk ( or what looks like one )  thats the attempt at describing a process.  imo

    and regarding gold im sorry i mis lead you , i meant 50 k ( as in thousand ) dollars worth of gold which would weigh about 3.6 kg or 129 oz

    So lets cut to the obvious , there was an advanced race living here most probably from another planet , they further modified our genes to create homo sapien 2.0 ... a little more frail , easier to manipulate but unfortunately completely un predicable ...  Ok so they have it made in the shade , beautiful architecture , abundant resource , habitable planet ...  where did they go ?  why did they go ?  and are they being held accountable for what they created ?


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