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orthodoxymoron wrote: I've repeatedly joked about imagining being a Renegade French Jesuit Organist -- and the Blue Boy seems to fit that general description. I've tried to somehow identify with that Dr. Who / Blue Boy image -- but I'm not sure why -- exactly. B.B. = Blue-Boy??!! Think about it B.B. The image exudes a "Knowing-Innocence". Different from the other kids.

Thank you, ortho, I think it's an excellent summing up in that description of yourself, a Renegade French Jesuit Organist aka Blue Boy.
Its a meaningful answer to my question on what you think goes on in the eyes and that head of the Blue Boy. I've had that same
impression of "Knowing-Innocence" looking at that face. At times I just see a very arrogant spoiled brat in the picture, but it seems
that many at that time, in such costumes and poise expressed those vibes. Being educated in the elite doesn't train much muscle,
I should think? Of course I only have an extremely subjective view on that style of life, far back in times so different from ours now,
at least in the way the gap was present between street life and rich people's castles and palaces and how people looked on the outside.

Occasionally, something in your choice of words makes me laugh so hard, without any judgement by the way, just the style of humor.....
is precious. You've mentioned that this the USSS thread if for study and entertainment. Do you mind if I do the laughing for you, if you
can't find it in yourself at times?

You might be interested to read about a, to me, similar kind of "knowing innocense" called slightly different as "Inno-sense" in the post I
shared yesterday, in the thread with messages by Cheril's World. Fear based intelligence is at the core among other topics. I'd like to hear
what you think of that thread, in due time, that is.... if you choose to go into it. By the way, do you find difficulty with scrolling through
this thread, ortho? It takes ages before I can have access and scroll through the posts, at the same time. Maybe my lazy Acer

B.B.Baghor wrote:

orthodoxymoron wrote: I've repeatedly joked about imagining being a Renegade French Jesuit Organist -- and the Blue Boy seems to fit that general description. I've tried to somehow identify with that Dr. Who / Blue Boy image -- but I'm not sure why -- exactly. B.B. = Blue-Boy??!! Think about it B.B. The image exudes a "Knowing-Innocence". Different from the other kids.

Thank you, ortho, I think it's an excellent summing up in that description of yourself, a Renegade French Jesuit Organist aka Blue Boy.
Its a meaningful answer to my question on what you think goes on in the eyes and that head of the Blue Boy. I've had that same
impression of "Knowing-Innocence" looking at that face. At times I just see a very arrogant spoiled brat in the picture, but it seems
that many at that time, in such costumes and poise expressed those vibes. Being educated in the elite doesn't train much muscle,
I should think? Of course I only have an extremely subjective view on that style of life, far back in times so different from ours now,
at least in the way the gap was present between street life and rich people's castles and palaces and how people looked on the outside.

Occasionally, something in your choice of words makes me laugh so hard, without any judgement by the way, just the style of humor.....
is precious. You've mentioned that this the USSS thread if for study and entertainment. Do you mind if I do the laughing for you, if you
can't find it in yourself at times?  

You might be interested to read about a, to me, similar kind of "knowing innocense" called slightly different as "Inno-sense" in the post I
shared yesterday, in the thread with messages by Cheril's World. Fear based intelligence is at the core among other topics. I'd like to hear
what you think of that thread, in due time, that is.... if you choose to go into it. By the way, do you find difficulty with scrolling through
this thread, ortho? It takes ages before I can have access and scroll through the posts, at the same time. Maybe my lazy Acer  

B.B.Baghor wrote:

mudra wrote:

B.B.Baghor wrote:Cheril Goodrich

The Miracle Alchemist

FBI, or fear based intelligence, is based on the deceptive belief that we can do something in this time that we are living in,
and it will follow us around for eternity. Is this not also deception that is referred to in religion as sin? The belief that this
world can record, and then keep a record of our so called sin, is also based on a deceptive belief that our identity can be
changed by a paper identity that is kept in an office called the County Clerk. The truth is, the value of all historical documents
that define our paper identity, this includes the time of our birth and death, are subject to destruction; just like everything
else that our world has made. This paper identity that we treasure, is designed to shift our attention away from the Higher
Identity we came into this world with. This is the Spiritual Identity that was written in the stars before we were born.
It is this Identity that carries unlimited potential, and is subject only to the Higher Laws that govern the stars.

I my opinion the greatest deception is the belief that we have an identity at all whatever we may call it. We aren't our body wether flesh one or other, we are not our thoughts, we are not our minds, we are not our brain, we are not defined or limited by anything whatsoever. Well  " who am I  then ? " one may ask ? You Are but because that feels a little too short, a little too naked we twist it around and say " I Am that . That I am " and when this becomes serious business that's how we veil ourselves from knowing we are Being.

Love from me
mudra

I agree with you, mudra, in us being spiritual beings in essence, having lived through more non physical states of being probably
and now ordained? to experience life at the bottom of the barrel, the 3rd dimension. I believe we make up reality of physical body
and the material world around us by our brain function.  On the other hand, regarding our being spirit beings, and that's why I'm
interested in these miracle alchemist messages, we live with the given fact told by our brain, that our spirit is present accompanied
by our physical body, at least that's usually the case  

That's our reference point, on the 3rd dimensional level, when we're not in touch with the spiritual world consciously. I believe we're
constantly in a competition finding out with which of the 2 we identify ourselves, for matter is so seductive in presenting itself as real,
to the mind at least. Money is seductive, for it buys stuff......creating slaves. And emotions can present themselves as real and thus
are being acted upon, on impulse. You could say that's a material approach to a non material process, showing that competition in action.

These messages  I share on behalf of Cheril, our new member here. Kind of testing the waters, if you like.

For me, and that's probably related to things I may try and find out in my life, the presence of our spirit, our being, merging
with our physical body as part of living with a "felt sense"..... an awareness in senses being fully alive and awake, is the place of
alchemy. The alchemy of being fully present in the physical body with one's spirit. Without allowing our physicality and it's story
to identify ourselves with or allowing it to rule our lives.

To me, that seems to be the key to a transformation, waiting for us to be made manifest. A physical embodiment by our soul and
a spiritual descension in our physical body, entering a state of being, connected to a certain vibration, a dimensional level.
I see all that happening by our own intention and attention and not something like if it's being "done" to us. Somewhere in that
process, which to me is a genuine creation process, lies the key to what we're supposed to accomplish, now. As a potentiality.
I think.... as a seed in waiting.....is it my thinking, telling me this?

B.B.Baghor wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ67TuCfToU#t=82


Finding a sort of kinship in views and finding a valuable exchange of discussions and insights,
with Cheril, I choose to share her presentation in this tubby, today. I do hope she's present here more alive
and shares her views in her own way, as she's a member now.

Also, for receiving the beautiful line below by Cheril, an example of our conversations online:
"I perceive the reason our world has continued to exist is because of the Sound of Inno-sense
that continues to be heard throughout the Spiritual Realms. This is higher value that cannot be destroyed……

My thoughts on that are: "It's that "Sound of Inno-sense", that turns me into an optimist and a believer in the
essential good that is in us, in our spirit being. That part of me is the creator too, as I see it. The creator of my
reality, trying things out and include failure as part of the teachings, meant to be experienced by me.
I believe that all life is created from love and freedom to experience. As far as I perceive it, growth without
freedom of experience cannot happen. Where would we be when not living with a free will?
Apart from the evident un-free living in the present 3D-conditions many human beings find themselves in,
on many locations on this beloved  planet. As I choose to act upon, we can take each other by the hand and
show a different road.

As I've shared this view elsewhere here, I can only perceive of a gradual change, like a dawning, slowly revealing
a reality that is new and not feeling as new, at the same time, as I experience it. Similar to when physically present
in nature, at break of day, not seeing through the dark veil of night, than the objects slowly beginning to be visible.
That dawning is in quietude and balance, never a shock.

Compared to the dawning of consciousness on planet Earth, as a metaphor, by being present in that darkest hour before dawn,
awake and with senses fully alert, living through that break of day, moment to moment, I see it will offer us potentially
that quietude and balance, when taking it in gradually, like when eating in moderate measures, never upsetting our stomach.
It's such a reminder of awareness, as a jewel catching my attention when the sun touches its body.

I'm finding at times, when in conversation with people, be it Holland or the UK, that they're willing to receive a little nudge of
information, almost casually shared, flowing in a state of ease. I'm excersizing awareness of where they themselves ARE, to find attunement.  
And even more so I'm excersizing awareness of where I AM    

B.B.Baghor wrote:

A Miracle Response
Friday, April 3, 2015  My words I'm finding and exploring a profound wisdom in this



Emotional Debris

In order to make a belief, emotion must be combined with thought to define a memory.
Once an emotional memory is firmly ingrained within the emotional body, it becomes a belief.
Any memory that has included an experience that has violated the emotional integrity within the emotional body,
it becomes a memory that is stored in the body. None of this has anything to do with our personal higher truth.
It is only what happened to a body. We are spirit, not a body.

NO violated emotion can enter the Higher Mind. If this was allowed just once, all of Heaven would be contaminated with emotional debris.
Thus, any emotion that does not carry the higher emotional integrity necessary to be protected by the Higher Laws of Heaven becomes
a property of the physical world. This convoluted emotional mess is called the physical identity.

When we are born, we are given a physical or paper identity. This identity is a false identity that is being inappropriately used to protect
a deception that began thousands of years ago. The purpose of this deception was to shift the collective emotional integrity of our world
to carry emotions that would destroy eventually destroy the emotional integrity that was instilled within DNA. Because walking around in
this deception is like walking around in an emotional debris field that can blow up in our faces at any time,
we are fearful of making a wrong move.

In reality, it is impossible to violate our emotional integrity. However, in a world that was deceived into emotionally trusting an external voice
that did not deserve trust, all of this was lost. But this loss was temporary.
Amongst the fragments of emotional debris that is scattered throughout time, there is also emotional truth.
Because it is impossible to destroy truth in reality, the truth that belongs to the people of the world must be returned to the people.
What this means is that we the people must become involved in sorting out the emotional debris field that exists in our own mind.
This means that we MUST go back in time and reclaim our OWN truth so our world can be preserved for future generations.

People do not want to go back and reclaim their emotional truth because it is too messy to even look at, never mind assisting in a
Universal Plan to repair the time it has taken to falsely protect ones own personal emotional debris field. There appears to be some
kind of beneficial reward for hanging onto the paper identity that we have learned to believe is who we are. The time we have been
using to hang onto this emotional baggage is a lie. There is NO BELIEF in our world that will be protected from removing the deceptive
debris that surrounds the truth that will preserve our world. It is going to become very uncomfortable for those who refuse to look at
what they have made that does not support higher truth.

The time for undoing this travesty was written in the beginning of time, and it is as true today as it was then. What was written in the
beginning was written in time Now, and Now is the only aspect of time that is real.
This is a fact that people who live in our world have completely denied in order to preserve their personal emotional debris field,
along with the personal beliefs that protect this debris field to keep the deception alive.
This is our personal deception, and for some insane reason, we want to keep it.

WE ARE KEEPING the deception alive; no one else is doing this... it is coming from us.
WE are the ones response-able for recognizing how we are protecting our destructive emotions.
These hidden emotions are destroying us and our world. WAKE UP!!!
Isn't anyone else tired of this? I know I am.

It is time to learn how to deal with the personal emotional debris that we are holding in our own mind.
It is time to take some response-ability instead of blaming people, places and things that exist "out there" that we can do nothing about.
This is the deception. If we are kept in the dark about our OWN power, then we are powerless. WAKE UP!!

Cheril'Sword Teacher of the Universal Plan of One Wholeness Now

orthodoxymoron wrote:Sorry B.B. My posts are too long -- with too many videos -- and the computers are too slow. I guess I've sort of determined that the only individuals who regularly follow what I post, have supercomputers to play with. At this point, this thread is in the final stages of a failed back-channel diplomacy-attempt. This was supposed to be over, at least two or three years ago -- but I kept finding excuses to keep posting. I really think it's different this time. The humor is almost cynical, at this point. This is not a happy activity at all. I don't think we have any idea of how much trouble we're really in -- and most people will probably NEVER know. I'll continue combining eschatology with science-fiction -- for who knows what reasons?! As much as I wish to move-on -- I still think there's unfinished biblical-business which has everything to do with who runs this solar system -- and why. This is probably the wrong forum for such research and speculation -- but I don't know of a right-one. It might really take until 2133 A.D. for my threads to make sense. I hope someone is preserving our efforts (with some sophisticated hardware and software). I'm not taking those steps -- so our communication might be lost for all eternity -- but who would really care if it was lost?? Who would really care if any of us were lost?? Some people seem to be just fine with most souls in this solar system being eternally-lost and/or eternally-tormented. Can you feel the love?? I can't. And these are supposedly good religious people with high moral standards and family-values. Interesting. What if the Bible is somehow a binding legal document -- in which certain aspects apply depending upon interpretation and application. I really wonder what the legal implications and ramifications of the following list really are?!

1. Job through Song of Songs.
2. Romans through James.
3. Isaiah through Daniel.

Is this a proper application of "here a little -- there a little"?? I think there are very, very few people who really understand biblical-studies. I don't think I do -- and that fact scares the hell out of me. I see no evidence that ANYONE has agonized over the territory I've covered. Most people can't see beyond my use of bad-words and scary-pictures. It doesn't get much deeper than that. I've really had to just let-go of worrying about people worrying about what I worry about. If I did more than I'm doing -- wouldn't that constitute yelling "Fire!!" in a crowded theater?? I probably have less than a month to go with my reposting project -- and then I'll probably just periodically edit out the grammatical-errors, dead-links, dead-videos, and dead-images. I think I understand how the solar system works -- and continuing this thread will accomplish absolutely nothing. I wish I had never started it. I wish I had become a medical-military-money complex big-shot who could pass the "empathy-test" -- as much as it presently hurts to say that. What Would Mr. Edgars Say?? What Would Anubis Do?? What Would Monseigneur Bowe Say?? What Would the Boondock Saints Say?? What Would Loki Do?? What Would Star-Lord Do??

B.B.Baghor wrote:Sorry, ortho, if I caused a frown or misunderstanding of my sense of humor. Believe me, I'm not making fun of you
or this thread. I seem to find difficulty in knowing with whom I'm communicating, due to that modeling and real time presence
of yours in your posts. If that's how you are present here. Look at this:

Those guns in your post remind me of an experience I had, walking from the busstop to a Railway Station in London, last week.
Two policemen, a man and a woman, came walking towards me, on patrol and chatting friendly. Both carrying a large gun-like
weapon. Similar to the ones in the picture, although they may well have been rubber bullet guns. I never experienced in my life,
meeting 2 armed people in a busy street full of people. While seeing them, my body instinctively wanted to flee from that scene.
My very first silent and shocked reaction was "This cannot be true!" and from instinct I wanted to warn them, to take good care
of hiding those weapons. As I felt their presence simply creating danger and fear. This is how far we've come in our views on
maintaining a peace, how bizarre, isn't it?

Medical-Military-Money Complex Big-Shot <> Prevention-Peace-Philanthropy Complex Big-Shot

Carol wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY-fuIZ0s_Q

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Alex Collier lecture is about UFO moon's bases, cities, structures, history, ruins, military bases etc. After the moon information he had been briefing the very same on Mars aliens.

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How the most sensitive and right information is in this context lectured by him, will be compared with the US Naval intelligence officers' visit to Mr. Collier's home; after this lecture they put him in the permanent silence, which continued many, many years. Many thanks to Alex for this interesting information.

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Alex Collier indicates that the Moon which encircles Earth with an artificial circular orbit, was brought to Earth over 11,000 years ago by invading Manipulative Extraterrestrials.

According to Mr. Collier, many of these Manipulative Extraterrestrials lurk underground. The Moon is therefore an apparent gigantic UFO.


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Seashore wrote:Here is the Description of the Project Camelot version of the same recording:

Uploaded on Oct 2, 2009

Alex Collier speaks powerfully and engagingly at the Project Camelot AWAKE AND AWARE Conference in Los Angeles, 20 Sept 2009.

We were delighted and privileged that Alex accepted our invitation to make a presentation at the conference, though for security reasons he asked us to withhold his name from the speakers' list until the conference had begun.

Alex talked in depth and with passion about the problems and challenges that we all face looking towards the future from 2009 - and introduces an intriguing new concept: mentoring in co-operation with our ET allies.

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http://projectcamelot.org

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR46QjXjLH0

On projectcamelot.org, there is actually a transcript of the presentation:  

. . . Many of the world’s religions, though they’ve had a tremendous amount of value and have brought an enormous amount of comfort to many people in our history and in our present day, they focus on shame, guilt, sin, and control.

Ladies and Gentlemen, that’s the trap. They don’t focus on self-responsibility. They don’t focus on life or respect. They, in fact, create more division than we have ever known. . . .

http://projectcamelot.org/lang/en/alex_collier_awake_and_aware_en.html

orthodoxymoron wrote:I'd love to know what Alex Collier REALLY knows about Jesus, the Angels, the Secret-Government, and the Assassinations of the Kennedys. I don't say this lightly. Not lightly at all.

Brook wrote:ODM,

With all due respect.....you have asked the same questions over and over again here. I have several times tried to answer the questions with my views.  Understanding my views are coming form a parallel universal perspective.  Now when I've given you my answer why is it you don't acknowledge my answer?  Instead you ask the same questions and add a bit more.  When I've answered the "bit more" you continue on and on.  

After a while it get a bit much. Now most people get rather perturbed when they answer a question and don't get ANY acknowledgment.  I've been rather patient here.  In fact there is quite a bit to be learned from someone who ALWAYS asks questions...get answers and only acknowledges them with yet another QUESTION...(while ignoring the answer entirely).

So I ask you.....why do you always answer a question with an question?  And never acknowledge the answers given.  Half of this thread speaks of RA the sun god and my perspective on  it....yet you choose to ignore my views....and keep asking the same question regarding RA and Lucifer.  Why?  What is your view?  What do YOU think?  Is RA Lucifer to you?  Because I've been plain as day in this thread as to my perspective on RA.  Not one person here that has read this thread for as long as it has been posted is under the impression I believe RA is Lucifer.  So why do you continue to ask me this?  And you do understand this is my perspective gained under past life regression and RV sessions right?  

Personally it's like telling me I don't exist here in this thread...and my views of RA are not being acknowledged by you one way or the other....other then the fact you KEEP asking me is RA in fact Lucifer?  I do believe if you have read this thread you would know that answer...and stop asking me that question.  It's actually starting to annoy me.  I don't go to your thread and do the same now do I?  I don't agree with several views of the Thuban threads...but I don't go there and ask them the obvious as to what they are posting.  Whether I agree or not.  I have posted when I agree or not...but I don't keep asking the same rhetorical questions.  

knowing the OP of the thread is in fact far form the illusion that RA is Lucifer. Why do you continue to ask me this question and why do you insist on asking a question you know I don't agree with?  It's a simple question.....several question here have been posed to you now.  It's not about your supposed confusion....far from it.  Even though you say this.....I'm not buying it.  You have something to say so say it.  You know my views on RA...so say what you really feel instead of posing the question here at me time and time again. Transparency is starting to seep through all these questions you know.  I'd just like to hear it from you.

1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z7O7UZxipM
2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3A6_blpqpU
3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeGhFrC9o6c



Jesus said to 'Be Wise as Serpents - and Harmless as Doves'. Interesting choice of words...

Brook wrote:

Brook wrote:Now we have established the fact that DNA was of utmost importance to the Pharaohs, and the bodies of the Gods themselves are clearly not available for the world audience.
you have here a clear wish to preserve the Genes.  

So now we are going to discuss the role of Isis.  Isis had a "genetic' bond to the disc technology.  And was established to be at the "seat" of the "throne".   The throne being the seat of power for those who wished to "rule".  Now within the genes are codes which they wished to carry a "bloodline".  Back in Atlantis this DNA strand and code had already been established.  Because if you had "Two eyebrows" you were of that coding, as opposed to the single eyebrow of the neanderthal.  And the head of that coding, the one who carried that and brought it here to braid those codes within the human DNA was Isis.  She was in charge of and carried the Gene codes.

Hence the term.....Genesis.  The word genesis contains the name Isis.....Genesis = genes of Isis.  

Our word Royal (Real) is composed of Ra, the Sun God.  Plus "El" legendary founder of the first civilization,  The name Israel means Isis Royal, the royal line of Isis. Israel is a compound of Isis the mother goddess, + Ra the sun God  + El the ancient 'father' God.  The chosen ones.  

But to be sure this was not the intention of Isis to create a 'Royal' bloodline to 'rule".  And she did not give Ptah his counterpart Osiris the chance to produce an offspring. Isis was a powerful being with serious abilities due to the genetic connection of the Discs and the technology of stabilizing DNA and setting the codes.  Whether you choose to believe it or not, world civilization were built upon her works, her teachings, and her "womb".  Daughters of Isis (the gene pool) married into the ruling families of the Pagan kingdoms all over the world.  Via those Isis queens, Mothers Goddess cultures spread from the Eastern Mediterranean over most of Africa, to Central America, Japan, Korea, China, and India as well as Russia, England, Wales, Ireland and all of Europe.  That was the Genesis of Isis.

Isis conquered more by love than by war.  But as you have seen, the misuse of this gene manipulation and the coveting of bloodline within the ruling elite have run it's course. And the very foundations of bloodline have been used for centuries to hold the seat of power, the "throne".  



Isis was deified as a goddess for good reason, but it had a dark side. The throne atop her head and the babe at her breast identify Isis as the founding mother of the Egyptian kingdom, Pagan religion, and the bloodline of "divine kings." Her bloodline founded Egypt and other great civilizations. Her religion was annihilated and her followers were brutally suppressed, partly because she was a woman, but mostly for the political aspiration of Ptah. The reign of the Mother Goddess challenged the warrior classes of ancient societies all over the world, but it also had a dark side.




The patrician fathers of Rome were Pagans of the Isis bloodline which made them "descendants of the gods." Their descent from the gods gave them "divine rights" to rule. Their Isis bloodline was the source of their legitimacy as hereditary rulers. They became absolutely powerful and completely corrupt. The Roman empire ruled the world for the benefit of a few elites. Monotheists were engaged in a political power struggle to gain control of the Roman Empire. The monotheists who were not descendants of the gods, who were not "patricians" of the Isis bloodline, had no hereditary claims to political power. The monotheists had powerful motives to eliminate the Isis bloodline as the only path to political power.

Those Roman patricians of the Isis bloodline were some of the original "highbrows." They had the high foreheads and parted eyebrows that set them as a race apart from, and above, the people they governed. They were alarmed because the Temple of Isis was spreading the Genesis of Isis to the lower classes. The patrician fathers couldn't bear the thought of commoners and slaves being of the same divine bloodline as themselves. Pagan Roman royalty had little interest in protecting the Temple of Isis from the monotheists. It served their interests to see the Temple destroyed.

Christian Madonna Isis nursing Jesus The monotheist conquest of Rome was a long and brutal revolution. The Temple of Isis was trying to breed the masses up out of their ignorance and misery. In so doing, the goddess of love placed herself in the middle of a war in which both sides had an interest in her destruction. Before Rome fell to the monotheists, Pagan emperors paid lip service to protecting the Temple of Isis, but they did nothing. They allowed the Temple to fall to the monotheists. All that is left of Isis' Mother Goddess religion today is submerged in Christianity.

The name Jesus contains the name Isis (J+Isis = Jesus).

Jesus was a Pagan. The name Jesus clearly identifies Jesus as a minion of Isis. The resurrection of Jesus is clearly based on Egyptian religion and the resurrection of  Osiris/Assur. Jesus had no connection to Judaism other than shared opposition to Roman military occupation of Egypt/Syria/Palestine/Judea. His teachings of love are clearly derived from the teachings of Isis, the Goddess of Love, not from Jehovah, the jealous and wrathful God.

Following the Deuteronomic reforms in the kingdom of Judea, (c. 620-609 BCE), militant monotheism launched a two-thousand-year campaign of destruction to annihilate all traces of the Mother Goddess. In the Bible, the womb of the Great Mother Goddess has been ripped from the genealogy of humankind and replaced by Adam's rib! The Jews rewrote their own history all the way back to their origins to cut their mother out of it. For fifteen-hundred-years in the Roman Empire, any peasant who found a Pagan artifact brought it to the village priest who chanted appropriate curses over it and destroyed it. The Goddess and her works have been grossly misrepresented and distorted in history. She has been unjustly exiled into the darkness of ignorance and "mythology." She is sadly unknown and unappreciated by us all.

Isis was the Earth Mother Goddess. She is the ancestral mother of all people who have two eyebrows. Monotheism was able to destroy her temples and erase her legend from the living memory of humankind, but they couldn't erase her sign. Today, we are all wearing the mark of Isis in the middle of our foreheads. It is right there at the part between our eyebrows. We are all "Homo sapiens sapiens", "twice wise" children of Isis with two eyebrows. We are a World Family of Earth Mother's children. Once we recognize who and what she was, and realize who and what we are, we will be able to lay aside our family squabbles and build a World-culture civilization that leaves out no part of humanity.

Militant Monotheism destroyed that ancient world order of Pagan kingdoms and established a world order (or world anarchy) of nation states which has resulted in a world at war without end. There was a global 'World Family' civilization in our past. There will be a global civilization of some kind in our future. Globalization is happening whether we want it or not. What kind of civilization will that be? Will we be guided by wisdom, or will we be ruled by authority? As a civilization and as a species, we must re-acquaint ourselves with the global civilization in our past in order to make wise choices about the global civilization of our future. We can create a multicultural 'World Family,' 'World Culture' civilization based on wisdom and cooperation, or else a police state monoculture based on fear and authority will be forced upon us.

The Resurrection of Isis through reverse genetics

Her message is love. Let world civilization begin.

I recently was thinking about the Queen of England, the Pope of Rome, and the God of This World. They're a pretty exclusive trio - with extreme power - aren't they? They don't get elected by the general public, do they? Should they? I really don't know. I'm really conflicted about this sort of thing. How does a civilization make sure that they have the very best individuals in those roles? I've been trying to combine the best aspects of theocracy and democracy - and the best of the royal and servant models of leadership and authority.

Lot's of your questions are answered here ODM.  If you have not read it...try doing so.  Because lot's of your answers are here. Unfortunately you are mixing sci-fi Hollywood with real life.  Which is for the most part the makings of one or two individual minds that collectively contrive stories based on real life events and twisted mythology.

Brook wrote:

orthodoxymoron wrote:Thank-you Brook. I think there are an infinite number of ways to get lost in this area of research. Were there errors in my previous and rather large post? It is very difficult to pin much of anything down with ultimate finality. Thinking one knows - and knowing - are very different - which is why I mostly ask questions. This will continue - and here are some more!

Might the following be true?

Gabriel = Theocratic Prosecuting Attorney (Attempting to reign-in the Rebels Without a Clue on this Planet in Rebellion).

Lucifer = Charming and Opportunistic Double-Agent (Antagonizing Both Sides - and Profiting from Both Sides).

Michael = Freedom Fighter for Humanity (Idealistic, Refined, Compassionate, and Ethical - but Relatively Powerless Against Gabriel, Lucifer, the Demonic Realm, and an Irresponsible and Rebellious Humanity).

This is just more speculation. Was the Human Race created from a Reptilian/Mammalian-Hybrid Hermaphrodite Race - by splitting the Male and Female components, and increasing the Mammalian component, relative to the Reptilian component? Are all of the Humanoid Souls really Interdimensional Reptilian in nature - and virtually identical? Did the Human Experiment get out of control - in the view of the Universal Powers That Be? Are Humans too emotional, unpredictable, disobedient, irreverent - and too difficult to control? Are Humans a grave threat to the Universal Church Theocracy? Has the Human Experiment in Freedom been sabotaged from the very beginning? Did Michael become Jesus when he became distinctly Human? Is Michael/Jesus really in trouble with just about everyone? Has Michael/Jesus been rejected by just about everyone? Was the Human Experiment in Freedom conceived and executed by Michael/Jesus? Is this Human Experiment in Freedom about to be Terminated and Exterminated - with Horrible Finality? Will all of our souls then reincarnate into Predominantly Reptilian Hermaphrodite Bodies - and will we all be governed by a Theocracy with no tolerance for Humanity and Freedom? Our problems may be Legion - as Sinners in the Hands of Angry Angels and Archangels. I really don't know - but this is what I fear. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9mFn9EhgU4 I am particularly interested in Archangel Gabriel, Archangel Lucifer, the Queen of England, the Pope of Rome, and the New World Order. Has Michael/Jesus essentially lived in exile for thousands of years? Would Michael/Jesus presiding over a Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom United States of the Solar System combined with a Solar System Exorcism be a rational next-step for the Human Race and this Solar System? I tend to think so - but I continue to be kept in the dark. I really desire for things to work out well for everyone, everywhere - throughout the entire universe. I still don't have an enemies list - but I am becoming increasingly suspicious and paranoid. I can hardly function. I continue to long for a single day of peace. If God be for us - then who can be against us - but who is God really? Listen carefully to the last 3 or 4 minutes of this video - and study my last large post for clues. What do you think?

To the part highlighted in red...tell me ODM....What do you think?............and why?...... Certainly you must have an opinion...even if you are not sure because you "think you know" as opposed to "knowing".
Certainly you've not lost all faith in your ability to reason beyond the views of Hollywood blockbusters.....do you believe everything that Hollywood puts out is meant to bring "enlightenment"...or could it be to "sway opinions in the area of truth"?  Or better yet to "entertain".  What say you ODM to those questions.

If everything that Hollywood puts out...could this be possible????.....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYmbt2RVqCg  
If that's the case.....then that would negate my post above now wouldn't it?  But here's something I'll let you in on ODM...I "know' it's true...I've got some validation.  And that would put the Hollywood version of Isis as "entertainment.  If that's the case ODM, than it just might be possible that most of the Hollywood movies are for entertainment....and not meant for anything to be taken quite so seriously.  quite frankly ODM, it leads me to take a good look at the movie "back to the future" where Doc gets things a bit scattered..but in the end he get's it right...so keep trying.  

Brook wrote:

orthodoxymoron wrote:Thank-you Brook. My thinking is really a composite of everything I have researched - including Hollywood Science Fiction - plus my intuition (derived from who knows what nether-realms?). I really prefer to just ask questions - even though this wouldn't fly in a doctoral dissertation. I'm really not pulling all of this out of an anatomical black-hole. I am trying to approximate what I think might be possible and probable. I'm not writing a book or giving a college lecture. In a sense, this is a lot like seeing patterns in the clouds. Some might call this the apotalysmatic principle. I read, watch, listen, think - and then I ask questions. I realize this does not constitute sound research - but I am not representing it as such. What aspects of my previous three or four posts are erroneous? I will gladly utter 'Mea Culpa' if I'm wrong.

Within research you have to conclude some answers.....so what are they?  and basing them on Hollywood fantasy is simply speculation in my view.  Give me some solid conclusive validations to the presumed directions of the questions....based on facts and not fantasy.

You see, this thread is about weeding out the fantasy of not only Hollywood projections, but also fear based religious doctrine.....set up to scare the pants off of you first and foremost.  This thread is about rites and rituals placed for intended uses by the very same ones that invented these religious doctrines.  Have you actually read this thread before throwing in your conjecture?   Before you scatter these illusive intuitions....have you seen the direction of this particular thread?  The reason I ask is that your questions, be they valid to ask, have been directed in thought here more than once.  So, unless you are directing these questions to the subject matter of this thread it seems a bit pointless to perseverate.

horus wrote:

orthodoxymoron wrote:TO ALL YOUR CURRENT RECENT POSTS ON THIS STRING

Over many years I have had the ability to read between the lines and I feel I should add my little bit. I don't claim to know everything or give answers, but I will tell you this, your mind is racing 100 mph, slow down my friend. What I read is like 'imformation overload' coming in from all directions, and I have a close friend who reads every book and inbetween goes to every convention covering every known conspiracy theory, these all anchor 3D shitz into the matrix, it has to be let go, as in... it's over rover, forget it all, this planet and 3D are totally finished, pull up our 3D anchor and move on, that is what I have to say. I have posts here that have never been foreclosed or finished proving what I know, what has passed today is history tomorrow. But is anything I tell going to change anything? no! I have been there, and where you are at, your are just not centered my friend, one step at a time, you will find more peace talking to your self and you are not crackers if you do that, your inner-self will listen if you still the mind.

Its got to a point where I just let it all go, and find the love that resides within, nothing else matters, all the bull-shitz doesn't matter, even if the end of the world happens tomorrow, I have found my Creator, I don't need to know anything else. How long have we known abouh 2012, whether it is real or not, do we remain in a world bent on self-distruction and greed, and wait for the rest of the sheepies to wake up, save yourself is what now matters, find your Creator within your self and connect, he never left you for one moment. In 14 years on this path to finding my Mother-Father I have sacrificed 14 years of income. Not one single ascending master has even spoken to me, and when they have, each one has had a private agenda energy, do you call that Oneness or still fragments of Duality? Its coming from 4D, the realm of demons in between 3D and 5D were so many tarot readers get messages, a realm where these over-lords have controlled 3D through freemasonary and have no connection to Creation. The Freemason logo is a insult to me (and my father), just as the All-Seeing-Eye on the Pyramid is displayed by the Illuminati.

I'm nothing more than a threat to their false existance as Horus and was expelling out of this part of the Cosmos like a Genie kept in a bottle floating in space, now I am back with a vengence and they all know it, and all my recalled memories. Apart from Christ-Michael, none of them come from the Light, they are all dark 3D energies. Their leader, a false god, is the only one on the playing field game enough to show his face and he is in bed with freemasonary and the very foundations of every organized religion on this planet and the New Age Cults. I affirm my words here 100%, I know who the real God is, he is within each one of us, go within and find it.

To change the above subject for a moment, I had a dream where I was Horus and talking like an eagle to my Father Ra as Horus the Elder and we spoke the same language, we both carry the same head of a falcon signature and I will prepare a graphic. I was in another world, I call it heaven and no other entities could be seen or heard. I may be Horus deep within my heart, but it does not go to my head, only Love with a twinflame and the Oneness I desire for both of us in a place where there are birds and bees, flowers and trees (the song). I told my ego thirteen years ago to hop into the backseat, to shut up and enjoy the ride and don't say a word, I swore like the crapper, I was not going to tolerate the dickhead within that is only the darkside of ourselves but elements of Satan in each one of us and the Christ within will remove, Satan is like a Sleeper Cell in our DNA connection to the Program.

This anglo-saxon process killed my adrenaline rush in one foul swoop and made me allergic to adrenaline. I just didn't give a hoot, about this inner-freak, it was history. How often have we walked through our lives without a sixth sence and lost a leg walking across a minefield of created debt. I am like a bloodhound when it comes to sniffing out any ego and I read it on many websites like all the false prophets. Just focus on who you really are, seek deep within yourself and all your answers will service, its a knowing, nothing else. No one will tell you what is right, or what is wrong, its just inner knowing from the silence that is within, then all the angelic energies will bath you with Loving Light that is Truth. If you are now more confused than ever now, then I can not help you like millions of others who will not listen. If you met me 14 years ago, I was just like you, I was scattered all over the place and it took others to see it, like I see you now.

As I said, and to changing the subject, this was a very interesting angle to many things that have surfaced in the last few weeks, so watch this video. I felt a lot of heart-chest energies of truth and resisting any ego impulse, and to the wanna-be person attacking me and also some of my friends in my dreams matched, to plagiarizing me and who is very jealous of my status, and to me having a beautiful twinflame who stands with me and at the left side of my two Mother's  Sekhmet and Isis.

Some people will not tell me they have been visited by this false god who has spooked them, and I will include my twin because of my own safety, and I know everything from 17 months ago is now revealing itself to what I now know, we have a false god in this realm who over this part of the cosmos and we are his pawns on a checkerboard, its all a game play, some lose and some win, and the winners are sinners.

I work with protocols from movies that ALWAYS have a LOOP. Writing a dream down, you will find that loop to get your answer, and think laterally. It's a skill that has taken me many years, sometimes I can interprete someone else dream, but not always, because it is your dream and it will repeat over and over until you understand it! For so many, it would take a lifetime to figure out these riddles. What are your thoughts with this video Brook?

Video found here with editorial http://www.blogster.com/revkenny/jesus-christ-and-the-bible-complete-fiction

Brook wrote:

orthodoxymoron wrote:
I would appreciate it if someone could specifically point out where I have gotten it wrong - in any of my posts or threads on Avalon 1 or Mists of Avalon.

lets start right here ODM......

Who has owned this solar system - going back thousands, millions, and billions of years? Who owns the solar system presently?  

No one "owns" the solar system..it simply IS......now that would be an assumption.....and where does it come from?  You tell me.  Because it has to have a foundation and basis to assume there is an "owner".  If you are presuming "GOD"...well it's pretty self evident that we are all a spark of God...so that would make us all owners in your terms.  But if you turn it into a more realistic view...we simply "are" and so it God, and so it the universe.  Do you actually believe there is a property line at the edge of the universe that says..stay out..no soliciting....warning dog on the premises?

And for "those who are filled with love and light"....well think again....no one has ALL the answers.  But I will state for the record..this thread was created as a past life recall.....and to swallow the red PILL to understand some things I've come to realize.

Which reminds me...I found another "room" recently filled with wooden boxes and boxes of my stuff filling the room.   little "tools" for "viewing" and deciphering.   and a basked with papyrus writings.  important writings it seems.  Just have to figure it all out when I get time.  

Brook wrote:

orthodoxymoron wrote:Thank-you Brook. You obviously have a HUGE amount of knowledge and experience - and I respect that. I can't swallow the red-pill whole, so I have to take it a little-bit at a time. Your find sounds incredible. What would Zahi Hawass say? But, on the other hand, an Egyptologist (a real cutie!) once warned me about Zahi. My question regarding solar system ownership had more to do with solar system governance than with real estate. Thank-you for your insights. Namaste Brook.

Beware of the Dracs Beyond the Van Allen Belt! Stay Out of Space! That Journey to the Moon Might Turn Ugly!

I'll go along with that!  

And I might as well add...I "viewed" a vault about a year ago that is locked up tighter than a drum..and filled with things that would be very telling..and they definitely do not want us to see any of it.  

Lionhawk wrote:There's an Orion faction that thinks they own this system ODM. A queen bitchy reptilian. Or Draconian I should say. She has ruled for eons. She and her minions have exploited this solar system for it's gold and other precious metals. Especially here on this Planet. That also includes human type slaves and children.

What is unique, is that this Planet has an abundance of all the resources they need. It's like their 7-11, a one stop shopping center for all their needs. Now on the other Planets, the human types there were forced to go underground to escape these Draconian pillages. In order to survive. It wasn't till 2005 when this status changed. A war was fought obviously to turn this around. This war that took place is not known of from what one may consider to be normal channels, such as the Galactic Federation and various channellings. Simply because it was a faction that spontaneously put this battle in motion. The real Galactic Federation did witness the war that occurred however. The Angelic Kingdom was also involved. They rescued many who had been imprisoned on other Planets that were ruled by a league of civilizations that were connected to this Draconian Bitch. The supply lines to this empire that were connected to this solar system were disrupted and cut off. At least for a few short months after Dec. 2005. We knew that they would try to patch their damaged lines back up in the following months. If anyone remembers, it was real quiet for the first 6 months of 2006.

At the same time as I am writing this, I amazed that an all out Solar system war has not broken out since then. This is also another probability that is not often mentioned in these latter days. If this was to occur, do you think we would finally wake up as a human family?

Their message has been very clear for the last ten years. "If we can't have our way with this Planet, we will destroy it!" ODM, this is a very serious statement. Maybe what you don't realize is that these critters will not negotiate for the freedom of this solar system or anything else they seem to think they have claimed ownership to. So anything that has been proposed, in light of your Constitution, has already been attempted. That is why you find yourself spinning your wheels in your efforts. But at the same time I do appreciate what you have brought to the table as far as your take on a peaceful resolution. So don't think what you have offered has been a waste of time. You are anchoring those energies to the Planet. If you didn't do that, the possibility of a peaceful resolution would not be possible in the light that you have presented it. Meaning in the way with all of your angles, whether they make sense or not. You anchor an open door to a resolution of some sort. Now if you could incorporate a 5D perspective to it, you might fair much better.

As I see it, it is a balance problem. Probabilities vs. Reality. Anything that is out of balance with that will cause you to spin your wheels. The truth of the reality is there but you have to find ways that will balance out that reality with new probabilities. Talk about a a real challenge. Sounds impossible, but if you have a little crazy in ya, you will always have a shot at it. I told you a long while ago that I would be able to watch you go through this process of spinning your wheels. You should try to solve one equation at a time instead of trying to solve all of them at once. Tackle the small ones that have a greater chance of success. It is a choice. Spinning Your Wheels or Achieving Results. You will always mirror either the lack or abundance of those said results. You want to be effective, then you will have to try something a little more different, with some "crazy juice" to change your perspective on things. Your new results will do that change for you.

I also hear of various experts on certain civilizations who searched for a track of direction to figure something out. But what I have noticed is that all of them come up short due to the pieces that are still missing from these puzzles.

During one of our research projects, we came across an Egyptian artifact that look very bizarre. It turned out to be a wave guide for a frequency apparatus of some kind. If I didn't have a small back ground in Electronics, I wouldn't have no idea what it could be. But then again, the other pieces were missing and we never resolved what it was actually used for.

So after 700,000 years of war, referred to as the Orion War, everything was scattered about. There was no winner in that war. It would seem that every civilization was pushed into survival mode and that included the Draconians. Rebuilding took place everywhere that could sustain life. Then here comes Zeus, who decided to take on this Draconian Queen and we see in our Solar system what became of that attempt. Now here is a question. What if someone on this Planet decided to propose war on this Draconian queen? Would she have us blown to pieces as in Planetary? Granted, Zeus didn't declare war on her, but it was her who decided to take Zeus out. It makes no difference at this point as we have planetary proof of what became of that situation. Everyone who was involved at the time, scattered to the other Planetary bodies in this system and hid. It would also make sense that she would hijack this system with various methods all linked to controlling the minds of all living forms of every Kingdom. Just so no one else would rise up and challenge her so called claims to ownership. Compress the DNA across the whole board. Compromise the consciousness from the point of any birth on all Kingdoms in this system. Now I may have a few facts wrong as to who done what and when, but in general, the final result is enslavement. Right in everyone's face.

Another point I would like to make, that many of the civilization that have left evidence here, are now gone. Where did they go? Did they just come here to set up a supply line for resources and then left?

All I know is that what was intended for this Planet, has been blatantly altered. For purposes of control. Add your spells, white or black, obsessions of all types, including research work, which can lead you to nowhere in the land of the second hand, substances that alter your state of being, and behaviors that are obsessive, just note they have you your soul in the palm of their claws. We are being controlled on every level. It isn't a question anymore. If you question it, then you just woke up.

I just hope this Galactic wave gets here like yesterday.  
 

Beren wrote:Ortho, just let go. Let all go, thank it for the chance for experience in your life, for chance that you CAN show your true self ,chance that you can show that you are of God and are of Love.

Bless them all and let them go.And behold the peace and Love in your life and being and soul.

Lionhawk wrote:I agree with you also ODM. I can only hope we are being guided in the right direction to the paradise that was intended for this Planet to begin with.

What is also not mentioned most of the time, is the Creator's blessings in all of this. There is so much fear being propagated right now to make anyone's head spin. Just don't buy into the fear, period! People are freaking out over CMEs, quakes, and the rest of it. Yet we are still here and the ones that are no longer, made those arrangements in their soul growth contracts. So why worry when it is all covered anyway?

But I will say this....I still have trust issues with these Draconians. According to Sheldon Nidle, they have been offered a new light body and have basically turned to the light. I wish I could see the documentation and implementation of that.

Maldek is the asteroid belt. The Wing Makers say the inhabitants destroyed their own world. I don't think so and I consider that dis info. I have done several scans on the asteroid belt and got back a few pings. Meaning that there is life on some of these asteroids.

Do as you wish with my blessings.

Beren is right as usual! But it never hurts to be prepared and that means having a plan B.

orthodoxymoron wrote:Thank-you Beren and Lionhawk. I can't and won't let it go. I'm just getting warmed-up. I'm not anywhere close to where I want to end up. My posting is a means to an end. Also, my target audience is probably 3D. I've been told not to be so heavenly minded, that I end up being of no earthly good. I can probably do the 5D thing quite well - but the 5D types should already know what's what - and nobody really seems to wish to talk to me - regardless of how slow or fast they are vibrating. I think there are a lot of people who think they are 5D Wonders - but they're probably mostly around 2D. They don't impress me much. I don't have a knee-jerk reacton against scales and tails. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if the human race has reptilian roots - and even some sort of connection with them presently. I really don't know. What really bothers me is the BS throughout history. There might be some positives regarding a Reptilian Queen of Heaven - but this solar system seems to be rotten to the core - going way back in history. There are many aspects of the Royal Goddess Model which should probably be emulated - and there are other aspects which should probably be vigorously resisted. Who knows what I might have been in some of my ancient incarnations? I might be horrified. I'm just going to keep doing what I'm doing - and try to remain objective and neutral. I'll mostly keep asking questions - even if I think I know the answers. I'm mostly trying to help others think in unconventional ways. I just listened to the Jordan Maxwell / Project Camelot Interview again - and Jordan said that humanity almost always chooses tyranny. We say we want freedom - but I doubt it. Jordan thinks humanity is doomed to experience a nasty New World Order - because they're stupid. I call it 'The Corrupt Ruling the Stupid'. Humanity seems to need to be tricked and herded like cattle. "What is one to do - when to rule men, it is necessary to deceive them?" I wonder who REALLY said that! I think I know! We've made it WAY too easy for the 'Devil'. What would happen to the 'regressives' if they really did destroy humanity? What would be their fate? What would be the soul-fate of humanity? I continue to call for 'regressives' of all races to embrace the concept of Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom - in their own time - and in their own way. I still don't have an enemies list - but I am becoming increasingly annoyed and impatient. Kumbaya is fading fast. The Sonata on the 94th Psalm by Julius Reubke is getting louder. Should I start exclaiming 'Let Him That is Righteous - Be Righteous Still - and Him That is Filthy Be Filthy Still!!' - and call for the end of sin and sinners? I don't like that sort of thing - but I'm not a happy camper these days. I'm wondering if we're ALL part of the "Orion Group" - especially at the soul-level - and that we just have different leaders, philosophies, and bodies. I'm still VERY interested in Gabriel, Michael, and Lucifer - and I'll keep asking questions about them. I tend to think this is a very sad story. I'm nuts right now - but when I REALLY learn the truth - it will probably push me completely over the edge. I will continue on this journey - but I don't think it's going to be a fun one. I'm quite numb already. My response-ablility is at an all-time low...

Beren wrote:Then I bless you on your path Ortho.
May you find your peace ,love and unity with Father.

orthodoxymoron wrote:Thank-you Beren. I just want truth and justice - regardless of the perks - or lack thereof. I'd like to think I'm on good terms with Jesus - who said, "If you've seen me, you've seen the Father" - and "I and my Father are one". I reverence the Creator God of the Universe - but I continue to have issues with the God of This World. I would, however, like to keep the lines of communication open with both of them. There are just so many unknowns in all of this. I don't wish to be a Rebel Without a Clue - just a Responsible Freedom Fighter. Namaste.

orthodoxymoron wrote:Thank-you, Brook and Lionhawk, for your in-depth contributions to this site. I'd like to meet you someday - or perhaps I already have. Who knows? I will spend more time on this thread, and the 'Amen Ra' thread on AV1. I've felt a bit of a mental-block regarding getting too deeply into the Egyptian material - perhaps because of possible reincarnational involvement in ancient Egypt. I wish you both only the best - and I hope to see both of you posting again soon. My mind is not made-up regarding a lot of things - and I welcome all perspectives - especially from those who really know what they're talking about - like you two - Brook and Lionhawk. Namaste.

orthodoxymoron wrote:

WHAT PART OFلقد كانت انطلاقة جيدة ولكن الوقت هو في متناول اليد ويجب أن يأخذ إجازة بلدي. ابحث في روحك لأبواب السماء DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND?

Brook wrote:Yeah!  What's not to understand?  hahahahaaaaa

Okay then revival seems to be the theme here...as I have some new and important information to share.  You know that language I was imparting was not quite exact, as that language I was picking up was very old, and what I discovered was a "root" to the words, which led to the Arabic version I guess you'd call it.  But that being said, eventually I'll figure it out.  There have been so many other things to pay attention to that I simply have not had the time to decipher it yet.  

Okay then remember the energy stream?  Where it had two sources....one was the duplicate discs, the other a transmission outside.  Well, I was just led to this information recently and would like to bring it here....it seem very relevant to this information.

So I ran into a thread where someone was working on the Bosnian Pyramids who was posting on the David Icke forum.  And I came upon some pictures I not only found interesting but information I was not aware of until just recently.

First lets talk about the "frequency" discovered there.  Emitted not from the pyramid itself but from an outside source.   Have a listen to these two videos and I'll return.  Be sure to listen to everything this man has to say about the construction too.  The "ceramic" construction.  And Mercurial...this should peak your interest as well....

Enjoy...I'll be back  

orthodoxymoron wrote:Has anyone read any Ralph Ellis books, such as 'Jesus: Last of the Pharaohs'? How about any of Gerald Massey's books, such as 'The Historical Jesus and the Mythical Christ'? Both authors focus upon the intersection of Biblical Studies and Egyptology. Does anyone have any thoughts regarding Biblical Egyptology? What about Michael / Horus / Mithras / Jesus / ??? as being a reincarnating archangel, or even a reptilian queen on a soul-level? Am I getting warm, or am I just cracking-up?

orthodoxymoron wrote:In the biblical record, Adam lived to the ripe, old age of 939 earth years, but in a very short time period, people were lucky to make it to 100. What the hell happened? That can't possibly be blamed on 'The Fall' can it? Then, 'God' was sorry that 'he' created 'man', and committed genocide, nearly wiping-out the entire human race. In Babylon, 'God' seemed to forbid a One World Government and the Unification of Humanity. I am not a slave to the biblical scrolls, but I do think they contain important clues. Has anyone read any Ralph Ellis books, such as 'Jesus: Last of the Pharaohs'? How about any of Gerald Massey's books, such as 'The Historical Jesus and the Mythical Christ'? Both authors focus upon the intersection of Biblical Studies and Egyptology. Does anyone have any thoughts regarding Biblical Egyptology? What about Michael / Horus / Mithras / Jesus / ??? as being a reincarnating archangel, or even a reptilian queen on a soul-level? Perhaps a forbidden genetic hybridization program resulted in an undesirable and threatening product of conception, namely the human race. I am interested in idealistic government and religion, and even the constructive combining of the two, but I'm not seeing much of a solid historical foundation for this sort of thing. Is the human race predestined to defeat, by divine design? Am I getting warm, or am I just cracking-up?

orthodoxymoron wrote:Take a look at this documentary on the Dead Sea Scrolls. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzLfZgzuN-s Here is an interesting lecture. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92hyhBXLaWE I continue to experience a profound and devastating crisis of faith, but I also continue to believe that biblical and theological studies are foundational for bigger and better things. Don't just write-off the Bible and Religion, and avoid the whole subject. As unpleasant as it might be, I think we need to properly deal with this. It's really hard to master calculus, without learning algebra and trigonometry. I've been trying to keep one foot in the Old Age and the other foot in the New Age, and I'm doing the splits. The antediluvian world was supposedly surrounded by some sort of a mist, which did not exist post-deluge. Is there any evidence of such a mist, and what it might've consisted of? The chem-trails (laced with radioactive materials?), Fukushima (deliberately inflicted?), and weather modification (courtesy of HAARP?) might be designed to produce conditions conducive to certain life-forms. Is this possible? Some speak of the 'veil being lifted'. What are they referring to? Are we going to be dealing with zombies, giants, and plf's? How might orgone affect humans and other than humans, physically and on a soul-level? I'm feeling a tremendous sense of dread. Perhaps I should make my shallow underground civilian base a bit deeper. Can you dig it? In the biblical record, Adam lived to the ripe, old age of 939 earth years, but in a very short time period, people were lucky to make it to 100. What the hell happened? That can't possibly be blamed on 'The Fall' can it? Then, 'God' was sorry that 'he' created 'man', and committed genocide, nearly wiping-out the entire human race. In Babylon, 'God' seemed to forbid a One World Government and the Unification of Humanity. I am not a slave to the biblical scrolls, but I do think they contain important clues. Has anyone read any Ralph Ellis books, such as 'Jesus: Last of the Pharaohs'? How about any of Gerald Massey's books, such as 'The Historical Jesus and the Mythical Christ'? Both authors focus upon the intersection of Biblical Studies and Egyptology. Does anyone have any thoughts regarding Biblical Egyptology? What about Michael / Horus / Mithras / Jesus / ??? as being a reincarnating archangel, or even a reptilian queen on a soul-level? Perhaps a forbidden genetic hybridization program resulted in an undesirable and threatening product of conception, namely the human race. I am interested in idealistic government and religion, and even the constructive combining of the two, but I'm not seeing much of a solid historical foundation for this sort of thing. Is the human race predestined to defeat, by divine design? Am I getting warm (due to increased levels of radioactivity?), or am I just cracking-up? Sometimes I feel like a potted-plant. What would Brendan Sullivan say? Anyway, has anyone read or re-read 'Megatrends' or 'Future Shock' lately, to see how things have played-out in relation to the forecasts and projections? Should I be reading Daniel and the Revelation in the Holy Bible, for the real-deal about the future? Should I try to change the future, or is it pretty-much already determined? Have the gods and goddesses made up their minds what they're going to do with us, or to us? Or, has the Creator God of the Universe decided what to do with the gods and goddesses - and with us? Is the ball in our court, or not? I guess I'm seeking a productive partnership of the Human and the Divine, whatever that really means. Where does the BS stop, and the truth begin? Which Heins 57 varieties of religion and philosophy do we embrace? How shall we then live? Should we just eat, drink, and be merry, as we prepare to die? Should I rent a Ferrari, and do my version of 'On the Beach'?

orthodoxymoron wrote:I talked with Carol Rosin about nuclear war, and I talked with Timothy Leary about Jesus, but I've never taken Lysergic Acid Diethylamide. How can one properly deal with all of the alternative and controversial stuff without turning into a nut? On the other hand, how can one become heavily involved in religion without turning into a nut? Perhaps the Backslidden Anglican Agnostics have had it right all along. BTW, I just ended my U.S.S.S. thread, and I will be spending my time looking at everyone else's threads. Tell me, Egyptologists, what is the relationship between Egypt, Persia, Rome, the Old World Order, the New World Order, the Knights Templar, and Teutonic Zionism? I see some basic patterns emerging, and it is quite startling to me. It frankly scares me. I recently said that I would like to meet with Nazi and Jesuit Egyptologists on the Darkside of the Moon, with the Queen of Heaven and God of This World present, and discuss the REAL history of the solar system. I'm becoming increasingly Egypt-Centered, but I can't really get into all of the material on this thread, perhaps because of reincarnational issues. I'm primarily interested in Biblical Egyptology, particularly Christocentric Egyptology and Science Fiction! Are we dealing with Egypt v Rome in antiquity, and possibly presently (in a hidden sense)? Are there good Masons who know about all of the above who are at odds with evil Masons? I don't mind learning about forbidden archaeology, esoteric theology, and hidden history, but I'm not into creepy rituals, human sacrifices, terrorism, assassinations, starting wars and profitting from them, planning exterminations, rigging the stock market, selling illegal drugs, corrupting elections, etc, etc. Do you see what I mean? I was recently invited to become a Mason, but I declined because of all of the creepy things that I've heard about. But I really do think that the higher level Masons know a helluva lot. You'd almost have to hang out with reformed bad-guys to really find out what's what. That's one reason why I don't shut my ears to those who are accused of being connected with the Masons, the Jesuits, or some secret society. But really, I don't want to get too close to this stuff, for fear of being sucked into the dark-side, if you know what I mean...

orthodoxymoron wrote:OK, I'm going to bite the bullet, and read through the 'Amen Ra' thread on Avalon 1, and both parts of this thread. Plus, I will continue to read my Egyptology books, and view various videos and documentaries, including those expressing the Black Perspective on Kemet and Ethiopia. I might think about the Dogon Tribe and the work of Dr. Robert Temple. I thought that I should spend a significant period of time on solar system governance, which I have done, but I just got bucked off of that dead horse, probably because I whipped it to death. BTW, I will try to include the Annunaki in my thinking about all of the above. I will also try to view all of this from the perspective of Michael / Horus / Jesus. I'm still waiting for that briefing or eyes-only document, revealing the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, in a month or less, or in a thousand pages or less. This is enough to drive a dude to ludes. I'm a loon as it is. Can you imagine what I'd be like if I really did take LSD and Quaaludes, or if I maxed-out on mushrooms, hung-out in sweat-lodges, and channeled Aton?? I should stop...

orthodoxymoron wrote:Once again, I wish to make a deep study of this thread and the old Avalon 'Amen Ra' thread, but I keep having a mental block. Brook (or anyone for that matter) do you think that Osiris, Isis, Horus, and Ra are alive and well, and living in this solar system? Is there a God the Father, Gabriel, Michael, and Lucifer equivalency here? Were (and are?) Ptah and Thoth really Michael and Lucifer -- or Pinky and the Brain? Why don't you like Ptah and Thoth? Are they the real Raiders of the Lost Ark? Were, and are, they both rebels, but in very different ways? Is Ancient Egypt at the center of the Old World Order? Is Rome (Ancient and Modern, Holy and Unholy) at the Center of the New World Order? I could ask a lot more questions, but I won't. Not now.

TRANCOSO, I am currently thinking that everything goes back to Babylon and Egypt, and that there really is nothing new under the sun. My Conservative Christianity is morphing into Christocentric Egyptology. The Bible, Quran, Torah, and Egyptian Myths just provide clues as to what is really going on. I think that thousands, or even millions, of years of religious and political conflict have created a confusing mess. I'm hoping this madness can somehow be resolved sometime soon. I'm trying to learn what I can from Ralph Ellis and Gerald Massey, but it's not going real well. 'Stargate SG-1' is a lot more interesting after studying this sort of thing. BTW, that was a very cool video.

Also, that guy in the red shorts convinced me that we probably aren't ready to ascend anytime soon...

orthodoxymoron wrote:Wow Brook! What a huge amount of complex esoteric Egyptology! This is way over my head! Once again, I wish to make a deep study of this thread and the old Avalon 'Amen Ra' thread, but I keep having a mental block. Brook (or anyone for that matter) do you think that Osiris, Isis, Horus, and Ra are alive and well, and living in this solar system? Is there a God the Father, Gabriel, Michael, and Lucifer equivalency here? Were (and are?) Ptah and Thoth really Michael and Lucifer -- or Pinky and the Brain? Why don't you like Ptah and Thoth? Are they the real Raiders of the Lost Ark? Were, and are, they both rebels, but in very different ways? Is Ancient Egypt at the center of the Old World Order? Is Rome (Ancient and Modern, Holy and Unholy) at the Center of the New World Order? I could ask a lot more questions, but I won't. Not now.

Brook wrote:Most of what I just posted was about the technology which while advanced for the day...was rather simplistic in nature.  Using concepts such as a hydrogen fuel cell would be considered advanced.   But looking at the dejed power source for the field generator was actually quite simple in nature.  The best way to look at it is this....

You have a civilization that was here with just the "stuff" in their crafts......other than that they had to use resources here and makeshift them with parts and knowledge they had with them.  It was not like they could go to the local electronics store or machine a part to configure.  The field generator while being a complex piece...was also quite simple and simply made.  

Brook wrote:

orthodoxymoron wrote:Brook (or anyone for that matter) do you think that Osiris, Isis, Horus, and Ra are alive and well, and living in this solar system? Is there a God the Father, Gabriel, Michael, and Lucifer equivalency here? Were (and are?) Ptah and Thoth really Michael and Lucifer -- or Pinky and the Brain? Why don't you like Ptah and Thoth? Are they the real Raiders of the Lost Ark? Were, and are, they both rebels, but in very different ways? Is Ancient Egypt at the center of the Old World Order? Is Rome (Ancient and Modern, Holy and Unholy) at the Center of the New World Order?

Quite simply...yes.

orthodoxymoron wrote:Thank-you Brook. All of this is quite interesting, yet I feel as though I am playing with hot fire and rattlesnakes. What makes this worse, is that it feels as though I am at war when I try to deal with all of this. It's sort of like beating oneself to death with a ballpeen hammer, in an insane attempt to put oneself out of their own misery.

Lionhawk wrote:

orthodoxymoron wrote:Brook (or anyone for that matter) do you think that Osiris, Isis, Horus, and Ra are alive and well, and living in this solar system? Is there a God the Father, Gabriel, Michael, and Lucifer equivalency here? Were (and are?) Ptah and Thoth really Michael and Lucifer -- or Pinky and the Brain? Why don't you like Ptah and Thoth? Are they the real Raiders of the Lost Ark? Were, and are, they both rebels, but in very different ways? Is Ancient Egypt at the center of the Old World Order? Is Rome (Ancient and Modern, Holy and Unholy) at the Center of the New World Order?

I'm just wondering why answer the question when it will be asked again and again and again? LOL

Osiris is here and he doesn't remember who he is or was. He was a propped up idiot and a womanizing fraud, in my book. He wasn't all that upstairs. He was also a genetic mistake of sorts that quite simply made everything worse and many people paid for it with their lives.

Isis and Horus are here. You have met Horus here in the forum. Now you might think I'm a little nuts when I say that. But Horus and I do have a history. A history that was just like yesterday. You guys might think he is this or that. It matters not really. What matters is that he and I remember that history and the price we both paid and continue to pay for the parts we have played.

Ra got a bad rap and only because the PTB made that so with the rest of their distorted propaganda. He is here in the now and that is not a secret any longer. He will probably succeed where Zeus failed. They seriously played the discredit card with Ra. It's all 180 degrees as to the truth.

Ptah is on some barren moon somewhere, all by his bad self. Only the Feline Race knows the exact location. He was another idiot with lots of power and abused it to no end.

Lucifer was Lucifer. The origins of Lucifer were from the beginning compared to Ptah and Thoth, as their origins were Reptilian. And I have already shared what I had discovered as to what has happened to Lucifer in our lifetime. So if you are still asking that question, it merely means you haven't proven it out in the first hand as with all of the other questions you have asked. There lies the problem. Settling for second hand answers will never prove themselves out to you and you will always have the desire to find out. So you have to make the changes necessary to change your stars in regards to getting the answers, thus the results you seek. I mean think about it.......We are still doing this dance after several years in regards to these questions. Settling for a paradox is not what I define as a true result towards the seeking of the truth.

Ptah and Thoth were some of the biggest "a holes" to have incarnated here. We as a global people are still reacting to their agenda. I refer to Thoth as the real Doctor Who. Do the research but apply a first hand approach. Remember they are Reptilians and follow the ways of the hydrogen base. That will keep you on the right path to finding those answers.

And always remember that apples are apples and oranges are oranges. If you don't keep it simple you will always be in a cloud of confusion and that will be your reflection out on the world for all to see. Excuses are free.

Meetings have been held of which are of the highest order in regards to what is before all of us that are here in the now. I will just say that James Gilliland was very spot on with his last message. The dark are at full bore and it is all they can do to keep their agenda up and it is just a matter of time when it will implode. So hang in there and enjoy the view from your front seat.

Namaste'  

orthodoxymoron wrote:Thank-you Lionhawk. I will keep asking some of the same questions, over and over again, in order to learn more and more regarding the topic under review. I don't get involved in anything spooky, so I will probably continue to require second-hand information from those who venture where angels fear to tread. If Ra is Lucifer, then I tend to think this soul continues to exist within this solar system. Most people don't give a damn about any of this. Should I be faulted for having a continued interest in the key players in this solar system? I keep getting the sinking feeling that having a genuine interest in the way things really work in this solar system is a lost cause, which is not rewarded in any way, shape, or form. In fact, it seems to be punished. I am particularly interested in possible reincarnational equivalencies for Osiris, Isis, Horus, and Set. Archangel Michael seems to surface as Horus and Jesus. I have made further speculations in this vein. The first and last Pharaohs of Egypt are of considerable interest to me. What about Adam, Moses, King David, Mithras, and Michaelangelo? I am beginning to think that there is some overlap between Lucifer and Michael, particularly regarding the musical role in 'heaven' and closeness to God the Father. Biblical Egyptology is well worth watching. Anyway, my writing activities are morphing into a novel format, so I might not be asking so many questions after all. But really, the questions are often intended to make people think. Rather than boldly declare that which is difficult to prove, I ask questions, and often I think I already know the answers to many of these questions. There is also the phenomenon of 'theme and variations' wherein a theme is repeated over and over again, with multitudinous variations, such as in the Passacaglia and Fugue in C-minor by J.S. Bach. Does the real Horus go by the name 'Horus' in this forum? If someone claims to be a famous historical figure, how do we know this to be true? If someone is told they are a famous historical figure, how are they to know if this is true? I have been told a thing or two about myself, but I tend to doubt it. I have done some role-playing just for the hell of it, and for educational purposes -- but how is one to really know anything of this nature for certain?

Lionhawk wrote:Not to be critical, but your approach seems to create more confusion. Especially to those who are earnestly seeking the truth. So since you are stuck on using second hand methods your results will never satisfy your questions. At which it becomes a distraction to where ever you post such questions. Ever watch a dog chase his tail? If you were really interested in finding the answers to your questions, why is it you insist on using second hand methods? Intention is the key ingredient. Now I must ask what are your real intentions with all of this? Maybe no one has ask you this before. I'm curious. I just find it very strange that you choose not to use common sense. It applies even to these matters. If you really want to know, your intention will guide you providing your intention is based in integrity. That is another key ingredient, integrity. So straighten me out will ya? Or will you make me chase my tail? LOL

Ra = Lucifer ???????????????????????

Talk about second hand results. If you really don't know in the first hand, how can you come up with anything constitutional in the second hand that produces the results you seek and expect it to manifest into something worth while? Maybe it is simpler than that and maybe it just comes down to getting someone's attention and maybe your real intention. To distract. There is a lot of that already out here. BS is BS, no matter how you deliver it.

You lost me.......

Maybe I can arrange something for you........ I will let you know if I can.

orthodoxymoron wrote:If you can't convince them, confuse them! I am what I am, and I am somewhat set in my ways. I wonder if Set is set in his ways? Here's more confusion for those who are easily confused. What if all we really have is the Orion Group? What if we are the Orion Group? What if the Orion Group involves the following?

Osiris, Isis, Horus, Set (Reincarnationally)
Sirius-Egyptian-Roman Empire
Monarchy, Papacy, Nazis, Masons, Jesuits
Copernicus Crater, City of London, Vatican City, Washington D.C.
Gizeh Intelligence, Most Intelligence Agencies Worldwide

What if there is a good-side and a bad-side to all of the above? Who or what might be exemplified by a composite of all of the above -- in a good way -- and in a bad way? What if Hitler turns out to be better than we thought? I have no inside scoop in that regard, but what if most of our understanding of history is badly screwed-up? I'm trying to imagine transforming the hypothetical Sirian-Egyptian-Roman Empire into a highly organized, highly developed, highly efficient -- but completely non-corrupt and non-violent -- Brave New Solar System. What if all of the above were assimilated into a Responsibility-Based United States of the Solar System, with an elected, non-bloodline King and Queen at the top of the pyramid? Would there still be a Pope of Rome and a Queen of England? I sure know how to get myself in trouble, don't I? Is this sort of thinking wrong or delusional? What if the Nazis had been completely non-violent and non-racist? What if the Vatican were more in harmony with the Teachings of Jesus and the U.S. Constitution? Please don't crucify me just yet. I think it is really important to conceptually get inside of all of the above, and to imagine the best and the worst aspects of this phenomenon. Shouldn't we learn from the past, rather than just marching blindly and stupidly into the future? The issues are too important and the stakes are too high. I'm frankly not very impressed with the good-guys or the bad-guys, at this point. I'm tending to think that everyone is bad, but in different ways. We all have our games and gimmicks. Believe it or not, ignorance is not a virtue, even though we often behave as if it were. I don't know if Ra is Lucifer, but some seem to think so.

"EASU's secret societies become infiltrated by ENLIL's and confuse the beast (man). Ra later takes over and reprograms everyone, including the Sirian royalies. Erases memories. RA ( Marduk) becomes the one and only SUN GOD. Must Pledge allegience to RA. History is changed and statues are defaced. RA is Lucifer. RA has his own mystery school. All secrets come from RA. EA's teachings became the RA-LEG-US ( religions). Hathor ( Ninhurshag) and ISIS (Innana mother goddess) have changed to imposters and dark allegience to RA. Sheti Lizards shut down electrical grid and disable RA. RA flees to the heavens. Lizards now rule. Electrical grid around earth keeps up disconnected. LIZARDS play EA, ENLIL and RA. Stone masons and families can only go to Mystery School. Nibiru (ibru/Hebrews) were treated like slaves. Loyal to Enlil. Moses is raised by Egyptian Pharoah princess and learns Masonic mysteries and one god belief. Moses realizes he is Hebrew, kills guard who threatened Hebrew slave. UFO Sirian ships protect Moses and the Hebrews, part the RED Sea, drown the Pharoah's soldiers. Moses casts a bronze serpent. Ark of the Covenant houses history crystals and become communication devices. Ark gets short circuited, Moses punishes himself and doesn't go to promised land. Egypt attack Sirian UFOs and they flee. Jews wander in the desert and Egypt leaves them to die. OBAMA coming in as Akenaton, Lucifer as Aton, with NESARA. Secret societies have Jews for front men, but LIZARDS rule. Warning-Holocaust for Jews, cause are being blamed. Hinduism ( Swastica) symbol of swirling star system of Orion ( Aryan) and Sirian allegience. Arian MG warriors (not Annunaki) abandoned Orion Queens. White race in mountains of India, shared secrets with the Egyptian Masons. They are actually loyal to Sirians ASURA system. Promised to not challenge lizards. CASTE SYSTEM- high priests to warriors to administrators to beast undesirables. Currently- Lizards not concerned, as long as we are confused. Sherri Shriner says the net is now down, Lucifer ticked at orgone warriors since many negative UFO crashes, souls have been released due to web being lifted. Fundamentalist chuches with rapture are Masonic, Masonic Mormons and Washington is Masonic. Ascension says that Ascended masters have taken our power away. Sananda, St. Germain ( Count- vampire), and Sanat Kumara feed off our energy, take our power, our CHI. They become immortal and we get recycled into the system."

Brook wrote:Yes ODM...we've all heard the "story's"....But one thing I've learned in this Theater of the Parallel Universe is that these Myths and story's are exactly that. For example. If you follow the Myth of Thoth...most think him some wise being that has the secrets to the universe. When in fact I've found he is not the good guy everybody thinks he is. This I found doing these past life regressions and discovering little known facts that would say otherwise. In fact even today much of his work is about developing "thought" therefore....Thoth = Thought. Don't even get me going on Ptah...Story's made and developed in the story's to actually manipulate thought and frame things in just such a light as to believe it's merit. Also developed to form cults within Egyptian culture which still exists today.
Even Zahawi Hawass is troubled by the "Followers of Seth"...yet another cult formed with these Myths that prove such leanings as to how cultures are developed and their beliefs.

So...IF you buy into the story's.....legends......myths...............you've bought the story hook line and sinker without knowing if it's fact or not.  ALL based on what again?  A scribe...a story teller.....commissioned by who?  Terra papers?  From a 'stranded' alien?  So by all means feel free to believe what is told...but it's more than an option to discover them for yourself.  Or you can go in circles as you have questioning whether this one is bad or good.  Hitler a sweetheart?   Really now...are you Sirius?

orthodoxymoron wrote:Thank-you Brook. I have to keep treating all of this as some sort of sick entertainment. I have no desire to 'wake people up' with this sort of thing. I just keep exposing myself to as much madness as I can stand, and then I try to embellish my ongoing real-life solar system science-fiction mini-series. This is really quite sad. It's a nasty job, but someone has to do it, I guess. The show must go on, but why? I continue to be interested in who issued orders to Adolph Hitler and Pope Pius XII. I have yet to study the Jesuit General during this time period, but Heinrich Himmler is a person of interest. I am interested in the Nazi invasion of North Africa, and whether this had anything to do with attacking Gizeh Intelligence, or biting the hand that was feeding Hitler and the Nazis. Al Bielik claimed that the 'Pleiadians' pulled the plug on Hitler in 1941, but who knows? It's the factional undercurrents and hidden agendas that I am most interested in, but I realize that this is playing with white-hot fire...

Brook wrote:ODM,

With all due respect.....you have asked the same questions over and over again here. I have several times tried to answer the questions with my views.  Understanding my views are coming form a parallel universal perspective.  Now when I've given you my answer why is it you don't acknowledge my answer?  Instead you ask the same questions and add a bit more.  When I've answered the "bit more" you continue on and on.  

After a while it get a bit much. Now most people get rather perturbed when they answer a question and don't get ANY acknowledgment.  I've been rather patient here.  In fact there is quite a bit to be learned from someone who ALWAYS asks questions...get answers and only acknowledges them with yet another QUESTION...(while ignoring the answer entirely).

So I ask you.....why do you always answer a question with an question?  And never acknowledge the answers given.  Half of this thread speaks of RA the sun god and my perspective on  it....yet you choose to ignore my views....and keep asking the same question regarding RA and Lucifer.  Why?  What is your view?  What do YOU think?  Is RA Lucifer to you?  Because I've been plain as day in this thread as to my perspective on RA.  Not one person here that has read this thread for as long as it has been posted is under the impression I believe RA is Lucifer.  So why do you continue to ask me this?  And you do understand this is my perspective gained under past life regression and RV sessions right?  

Personally it's like telling me I don't exist here in this thread...and my views of RA are not being acknowledged by you one way or the other....other then the fact you KEEP asking me is RA in fact Lucifer?  I do believe if you have read this thread you would know that answer...and stop asking me that question.  It's actually starting to annoy me.  I don't go to your thread and do the same now do I?  I don't agree with several views of the Thuban threads...but I don't go there and ask them the obvious as to what they are posting.  Whether I agree or not.  I have posted when I agree or not...but I don't keep asking the same rhetorical questions.  

knowing the OP of the thread is in fact far form the illusion that RA is Lucifer. Why do you continue to ask me this question and why do you insist on asking a question you know I don't agree with?  It's a simple question.....several question here have been posed to you now.  It's not about your supposed confusion....far from it.  Even though you say this.....I'm not buying it.  You have something to say so say it.  You know my views on RA...so say what you really feel instead of posing the question here at me time and time again. Transparency is starting to seep through all these questions you know.  I'd just like to hear it from you.

orthodoxymoron wrote:I am very sorry to have caused you such distress, Brook. I had no idea. I shall proceed to make a complete review of this thread to discover the level of repetition on my part, and the attempted answers on your part. Often when an answer is rendered, this causes one to gain an insight which leads to yet another thought or question. Something happened three or four months ago which seemed to anger many on this site, and most communication with me has ended, or has become hostile. What happened, exactly? Who is the Ultimate and Undisputed God of This World? Amen Ra?

orthodoxymoron wrote:

Brook wrote:

Who is the Ultimate and Undisputed God of This World? Amen Ra?

Well if you do decide to read this thread...I firmly have stated...Amen Ra was not the god of this world.  In fact if you really research many of the teachings and culture...you'll understand that as well.  Good reading ODM.

Thank-you Brook. I intend to do much more listening and reading, and much less writing.

Brook wrote:

Owlsden wrote:Oh ODM,

I quite enjoy reading your material.. Please do continue to share...

Owlsden...don't worry...ODM will continue to write.....he is presently writing this thread in his perception...just have a look around.   ;)It's all good.

horus wrote:orthodoxymoron

I picked up your energy yesterday and somewhere else, where you on the Starship Capricorn Forum? I was going to tell you Horus is here and in the now, Past, Present and Future, I am everywhere and multidimensional and my sacred heart is telling me the 'scatter-brain' part of you, to slow down. Have you had your blood pressure taken, some one is living off your energy, I just know it and your mind is everywhere showing probes on a hard hat, I call them the pricks of Jabba, a slug-like creature with the face of Chief-Sitting Bull looking like a cane toad. Sort out your inner folders first within my friend, you have some unwanted corrupt files causing all sorts of confusion and cross examination techniques from another quarter, its been that way for some time. You continuously question yourself without the examination that is given. I'm here to help you see what I see in you, I'm not here to scorn you.

Do you want proof of who I am, I am Horus and you better believe it and I talk to RA as my Father-Creator who he is not the god that plays mind-games in this 3D world, he is very real and he is coming as the All-Seeing-Eye of God, shown to me as energy to the Helix Nebula. I have the proof, look at a post I just made today! Wave frequencies are going to make some people mind-crazy like a chicken losing its head. Do you want to be one, so go about centring yourself. I'm not going to tell what I know in detail, its too late for that, because no one believes in what I said the last 6 years as a teller of dreams always connecting to a movie protocol. So many will just have to face the music, and those three words just about sum it up that post that's not about fear but showing time has truly run out and has nothing to do with the Mayan Calendar, we are just becoming Galactic Humans, and the activation of our junk DNA when we focus on becoming who we really are and having full consciousness. Look out when that happens, I may be walking through 3D objects that are not real at all. Imagine walking through a privy in government, shitzzzz all over the floor and wet trousers.
     

I felt a lot of warm Heart energy putting that post together, I could have told a lot more, but I left it up to everyone to decide for themselves, each soul now is on his own. I'm not here to save anyone, I am just a bringer of Light, Love and the Truth and warrior, you better believe it. You have to save yourself and find the love RA is projecting towards us, he never left us. You have to search for it deep within. Humans took up other interests that took them away from knowing sacred things like being a earth guardian, and look at this planet right now, what have we done? The paedophiles have raped this planet and all its elements. Have we learnt anything? As I type a voice from a movie called Night at the Museum. I received a message from that movie about Anubis from Mother-Creator. In short, those of the dark should be very afraid what's coming to them. The voice I heard was the statue from Christmas Island saying Dunb-Dumb directly after, have we learnt anything?

Has my warning been heard? I think blind people reading Braille are properly got a better chance, they properly have a greater focus within with the distraction, I know because I have to keep my eyes closes with all the recalling of dreams to their accuracy and I search deep with retrieving more details.

The clock is ticking and believe me as I see it this false god Thoth is a dick-head full of blood, I'm expecting it to explode soon looking like a watermelon feed on growth hormones near a sewerage pond.

I channel myself and 'no one channels me' and you do find a channelling, its a fraud right up front. And I know more than most, your head would spin like a top and you would suffer from information over-load, and I'm getting a image of a straight jacket cartoon that used to be on Godlike Production, someone all bandaged up. Wisdom should teach you to bite small parts of the apple first, letting that information digest first, you are trying to swallow the apple with one single bite and swallow it all at once. To quote the saying; 'blind as bats', bats regurgitate their business just like Thoth by talking a lot of shitzzzzz with regurgitated misinformation that is second hand. Get the truth from deep within. I stand with my Mother-Father, and I love what I do!

There is nothing wrong in learning, but read one book at at time and you will get a better picture. On my path of learning in very the beginning, if the energy was not there in one chapter, I skipped it, I didn't need to know, period. Maybe you reading every written word which has confused your even more. That is all I have to say I'm sorry, and don't expect me to be cross-examined also.

Brook wrote:

orthodoxymoron wrote:Thank-you Horus. I wasn't on any other forum. I'm barely on this one. You most certainly have a way with words.

"felt a lot of warm Heart energy putting that post together, I could have told a lot more, but I left it up to everyone to decide for themselves, each soul now is on his own. I'm not here to save anyone, I am just a bringer of Light, Love and the Truth and warrior, you better believe it. You have to save yourself and find the love RA is projecting towards us, he never left us. You have to search for it deep within. Humans took up other interests that took them away from knowing sacred things like being a earth guardian, and look at this planet right now, what have we done? The paedophiles have raped this planet and all its elements. Have we learnt anything? As I type a voice from a movie called Night at the Museum. I received a message from that movie about Anubis from Mother-Creator. In short, those of the dark should be very afraid what's coming to them. The voice I heard was the statue from Christmas Island saying Dunb-Dumb directly after, have we learnt anything? Have any my warning been heard? I think blind people reading Braille are properly got a better chance, they properly have a greater focus ability within without distractions, I know because I have to keep my eyes closes with all the recalling of my dreams to their accuracy and I search deep within retrieving more details. The clock is ticking and believe me as I see it this false god Thoth is a dick-head full of blood, I'm expecting it to explode soon looking like a watermelon feed on growth hormones near a sewerage pond."

I believe. Help thou my unbelief.

DAMN!  That's the best post you've done here in quite a while...I love it when you talk like that!    

horus wrote:Thank you Brook, someone was helping me, I could feel words at my finger tips, unbelievable and so cheeky, almost a lyrical feed back! In reply, and energy from 'above me' for you because you were a singer of a band. I also found it so refreshing to read words from my Beloved Brother Andy! Enjoy these video's because it is Natalie's real voice. So many will be in total disbelief, resurrecting like the Christ did. She is a 'glowing star' and so bright!  

Unbelievable, instant at my finger tips, we have company, as I typed, 'singer of a band'.
Look at the facial energy! Get blown away with the words of the song, so fitting!!!



I'm just a wandering on the face of this earth
Meeting so many people
Who are trying to be free
And while I'm traveling I hear so many words

Language barriers broken
Now we've found the key
And if you want the wind of change
To blow about you
And you're the only other person to know, don't tell me
I'm just a singer in a rock and roll band.

A thousand pictures can be drawn from one word
Only who is the artist
We got to agree
A thousand miles can lead so many ways

Just to know who is driving
What a help it would be
So if you want this world of yours
To turn about you
And you can see exactly what to do
Please tell me
I'm just a singer in a rock and roll band.

How can we understand
Riots by the people for the people
Who are only destroying themselves
And when you see a frightened
Person who is frightened by the
People who are scorching this earth.

I'm just a wandering on the face of this earth
Meeting so many people
Who are trying to be free
And while I'm traveling I hear so many words

Language barriers broken
Now we've found the key
And if you want the wind of change
To blow about you
And you're the only other person to know, don't tell me
I'm just a singer in a rock and roll band.

How can we understand
Riots by the people for the people
Who are only destroying themselves
And when you see a frightened
Person who is frightened by the
People who are scorching this earth.

Music is the traveller crossing our world
Meeting so many people bridging the seas
I'm just a singer in a rock and roll band.
We're just the singers in a rock and roll band.
I'm just a singer in a rock and roll band...

Brook wrote:A member here just sent me a series of Videos....About Simon Parkes.  Now I watched all four parts which I just finished today.  He speaks of many things I've spoken of in my thread here.  But I'd like to point out the last in the series....the "SESSION"...where he recounts the beings" and the ritual where they hurt and torture children.

One if the first things I saw what the 'eye of Horus' in my session when I started on the "Egyptian" parts.  this video actually brought me to tears briefly....it hit very close to home....  

and here is the ritual I've written about...in several posts here....remembering the BA is the "Owl"

Brook wrote:

Brook wrote:Now back to the Room with the 'ritual'......

Thought I'd mention When I was visiting that room, it dawned on me there was a low level noise coming form an outside source. This is when I discovered the field generator. Now the question is ..did the three parts of the stone block, chair , and disc create the field generator? NO. It was quite separate. And I believe situated in a separate yet connected room.

Right now I'm swimming into some unfinished business. When I decided to attempt going to the field generator it was brought to my attention that I needed to attend to unfinished business. About a year ago I was presented this meeting. Now Wayne Herschel has been working on the star patterns of origin. And that's all good and well. I've even had conversation with him about this.  But he is failing to understand the actual meaning of this. It's not simply a chart to the stars but a meeting.

It's the meaning of that meeting
that I'm aware of. That I knew over a year ago. But it also brought an
emotion to me personally. And upon seeing this during a session I spoke
a phrase in this ancient language that I did not understand until
today. Because that link I was drawn to had the answers. Not only does
it relate to hieroglyphs but is also contains the words that were
deciphered as well. So I took that phrase I uttered in that session
well over a year ago and I used the book to decipher it. You cannot
simply go to a translation program and get a translation as this is an
ancient language not used anymore as it were.

What I said was this....remembering it phonetically and quite literally. Spoken with "indignation" by me.

Har te teht tat saiu maau

Har - means District in Syria

te - means Injustice

teht - leads war

tat- means Other world

Saiu - means guardian, watchman (eye of Ra)

Maau - means district

Understanding this....this was
spoken by me with indignation and emotion that caused a "distortion"
and I could only speak the ancient language as the distortion would not
translate it. So I was supposed to decipher it and until today never
did.

Quite literally I was saying this..

The injustice in the district of
Syria that may lead to wars in other worlds is viewed by the guardian
Ra in this district (Egypt). ...by the action of this meeting.

For me to say this was a political statement and I was not happy to just let it go...the injustice that is. I was quite emotional during this meeting and the statement reflects that.

Now the action of this meeting
was indeed a peaceful resignation to gather the stone discs take them
home where they belong and leave peacefully. So as not to create any
wars...but a date was given on that day to "make things right" or
actions would be decided at that time.

The fact that someone (Thoth and
Ptah) made duplicates of the discs leads the way for a peaceful
resignation and agreement to no further actions in that meeting. But
you can bet that Thoth made sure he let everyone know of this
date....as Quetzalcoatl and Mayan God to devise the Mayan Calendar. But
that is a whole other political play between Ptah and Thoth as Ptah
could no longer trust Thoth who was gaining his own self imposed power.
He was much smarter that Ptah by far. Ptah sent him away from
his district because he though he might eventually be an adversary who
sought to take over rule. Just for the record...I don't like Ptah or
Thoth at all. But that is a whole other avenue of thought.

Okay then I'm hoping this can get
final resolution and I can get to the field generator. sorry
for the delay but I have to finish what I start..and this for me was
unresolved until today. It just had to be determined and was not going
to simply go away now that I had the link to decipher the words spoken.
I confess it's been on my mind since I said them....but until today had
no way to do so.

Arrogance vs Confidence

I have bumped my own post....not through arrogance but out of confidence.   The time line set in this depiction and my words are about to erupt once again.  It's not through arrogance I discovered this but sheer hard work and confidence in validation.  Most of which I do not share here.  Why don't I share it?  Because most are not ready to handle the truth.  

The part I have highlighted ...the statement in RED are now coming once again.  Same name....same game....not a damned thing changed.

I also share the so called "arrogance" with love in my heart and share it with the good people here.  Because it's with confidence that I do know this is more the real.

Someone once said,

People do not care how much you know  until they know how much you care.

Sadly it can also be the other way around......

Some care how much you know and don't care about you if they assume you know little.  

It's a scary phenomenon how we sometimes judge the world with faulty perceptions when all we are seeing is the reflection of ourselves.

Best not to judge at all ....

To my good friends here....Peace and Tranquil waters will prevail eventually.  When they do I'll see you then.  

To the others...know you too will be judged at some time or another....is it safer to tread on the rocky ground of truth or sail on the smooth waters of complacency while you point your finger in jest?  Just know that's a lesson in humility and will be well worth learning.  

Namaste Now....Journey well
Brook

Brook wrote:Well thank you Owlsden but I'll be leaving now......but have one more post here.....

A little Feng Shui goes a long way baby!.....................


Feng shui is a Chinese system of geomancy believed to use the laws of both Heaven (Chinese astronomy) and Earth to help one improve life by receiving positive qi...

Geomancy ( Greek: γεωμαντεία, "earth divination") is a method of divination that interprets markings on the ground or the patterns formed by tossed handfuls of soil, rocks, or sand. The most prevalent form of divinatory geomancy involves interpreting a series of 16 figures formed by a randomized process that involves recursion followed by analyzing them, often augmented with astrological interpretations.

Once practiced by people from all social classes, it was one of the most popular forms of divination throughout Africa and Europe in the Middle Ages and the Renaissance.

Just sharin...one last time ......

orthodoxymoron wrote:Brook, I will be spending the next couple of months focusing on Egyptology in general, and your threads in particular, but I probably won't be commenting. I haven't felt ready or able to do this sort of thing previously, possibly because of reincarnational baggage (who knows?), but now I feel a need to properly relate Egyptology to my Christology and Biblical Studies. Thank-you for all of your insights and hard work. It is greatly appreciated. A lack of understanding on my part does not constitute a lack of appreciation. Namaste.

Brook wrote:Just for you Milkteagirl..you're far and beyond the norm of "knowing"...you know it and so do I.  You'll figure it out long before most will and that is my projected analysis.

Now I will straighten out that last post..as it deserved much better than I gave it....

So what's with the Feng Shui?

Looks like another eight sided wheel to me eh? Truth is I'm not as up on Feng Shui but do know it to be a geomancy (word of Greek origin meaning earth divination which would suggest the pulling and directing of life force energy "QI" and using it to your advantage for what ever purpose you choose. Being of course it should be used for positive energy not the negative as it would surely backfire in some way eh? This geomacy is even used in magic rituals in calling the four corners...pulling that energy from the ground on which we walk. Like a deviation of sorts.

Well today while doing my "thing" I was confronted with Feng Shui and ran into this handy little devise.  Keeping in mind that geomancy has been used by just about every culture in about every country out there. I ran into this..

Geomantic instrument Egypt or Syria 1241 1242

http://www.britishmuseum.org/explor..._objects/me/b/brass_geomantic_instrument.aspx

On the face it reads...

I'm the reveler of secrets; in me are the marvels of strange and hidden things.  But I have spread out the surface of my
face out of humanity, and have prepared it for as substitute for earth...

Looks like an interesting little devise all those knobs and leavers. Wonder what good it did? It would seem that this type of geomancy would be used according to astronomical alignments as well. So I just figured I'd share my latest escapade in the Parallel Universe and wondering what it's all about at this time.

A little Feng Shui goes a long way baby! Whoa!!!!!!!!!!!!

Grounding!  I must take my own advise....farewell  

WHO OWNS THE WORLD
by
Kevin Cahill with Rob McMahon

http://www.amazon.com/Who-Owns-World-Surprising-Planet/dp/0446581216/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1376598858&sr=8-1&keywords=who+owns+the+world

Who Owns the Solar System and Who Owns the Technology????!!!! Class-Warfare Really Gets My Goat!!!!

http://www.amazon.com/Evangelicals-Canterbury-Trail-Attracted-Liturgical/dp/0819228516/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1431220263&sr=8-1&keywords=evangelicals+on+the+canterbury+trail



"You Prefer the 1928 Book of Common Prayer??!! Really??!!"




"Enough Theology, Oxy!! We've Got Reservations at the Ritz-Carlton!!"

mudra wrote:

Love from me
mudra

B.B.Baghor wrote: Thanks mudra, that's a great wisdom, that quote you shared simultaneously with my post just now  

ortho's words: "Good-Intentions often Pave the Road to Hell" Ortho, I remember that line differently. In my memory it
goes like this "Well meaning efforts often pave the road to hell" At least it's being said in this way in Holland. I can't see good
intentions going there, for in my logical mind only bad intentions pave = are the road to hell, see what I mean?

Am I mistaken, can intentions be unconscious and create havoc due to that? I've made a separation in attempts to do good and
the intention of doing good. For clarity, to give an example from life in 3D: I've got a friend who's skilled in creating complications,
due to a fixed tendency to serve "all parties" so to speak and to gain as much profit from her undertakings as possible. Money-
wise and sensation-wise. We can both laugh heartily about it and she can find her antics ridiculous. The only thing is, she's got no
memory to keep that in mind. There's no prevention of a next time and it's a bizarre humorous thing in our friendship. To me it's a
very unusual thing, in the sense that I've got a memory of an elephant, in general. Not that I don't walk in a dead end alley, for I
have my own blind spots to deal with too.

When we're on a journey to a city, she needs to have an overview of all possible destinations that can offer her something. She
wants to run around quickly and than walks slowly to destinations and places she has chosen while running around. I can't be with
her in that, for I prefer to just go without a plan and a map, in wonder, and love to see what happens and how it unfolds, usually.
I can sit on a derelict English harbor quay, discovered at the end of a narrow dark alley, happily enjoying a sandwich and watch the
seagulls, hungry waiting to be fed by a less hungry tourist. "Doing nothing" and be in places of "nothing" is okay for me. In my traveling
and rambling style of walks, I am a bit like what's said in that statement of a Dutch text-creative group called "Loesje" going "With
my thoughts somewhere else, I am always everywhere". Now that's what I call a journey  

My girlfriend's antics get so complicated and full of illogical loops of thinking, that I usually run away, yelling, when I feel them surfacing.
She and I can enjoy whole days in nature and go on our bicycles, we are great in understanding each other and our lives and feel a
special kind of sisterhood. She's been a great support to me, when I was in grief for a long time. We feel sometimes that we've been
once in a monastery together. Only it's me alone that feels strongly that she and I have been in a symbiosis, in that lifetime. An attempt
for that is still practiced by her in making me feel good in a obligating way, for me. She's immediately pointed at it by me, when she tries
and she accepts.

It's good excersize for me, putting boundaries in place in a kind way when possible and I find ways to put them in place without the need for
drama, adding a good sense of humor instead, often in dry and wry ways, which makes her belly hurt with laughing. I've found that my heart
sees her clearly and that's, for me, an intention that prevents me from paving a road to hell, or being led to hers, while seeing her going to
her section in it, each time in   for her never learning from the experience. It's an intention in me, allowing her to live a lie, in a way that I
can hold her in respect and fondness and have no say in that style of hers, with my mind and my words. I think only real life situations offer
"words of advise" to create our intentions, don't you think, ortho? Do you agree?

orthodoxymoron wrote: Is there a way to make lots of money in a COMPLETELY-ETHICAL MANNER??!! That might be more difficult than anyone thinks!! But if those with the gold make the rules -- and RULE -- how do the good guys and gals with no dough make the world (and solar system?) a perfect-place??!! Should the Top One-Percent be required to live Bottom One-Percent Lifestyles??!! Would that stipulation supply sufficient motivation to make things better for ALL-CONCERNED??!! I continue to think (not in a happy manner) that I should've become the following contradiction in terms (as a Two-Faced Back-Stabbing S.O.B. -- namely Dr. Peter Big Dick)!!

Medical-Military-Money Complex Big-Shot <> Prevention-Peace-Philanthropy Complex Big-Shot

Do you see how this works?? Consider the theological implications and ramifications. What Would Mr. Edgars Say?? As a young-man, I was actually headed in this direction -- until I lost my faith (and some say my marbles). The SDA church is all about acute-care drugs and surgery medicine (and big-shot doctors on church-boards and school-boards) starting with Dr. John Harvey Kellogg. They started out with prevention and natural-treatment (but that's NOT where the fame, fortune, power, and glamour resides). No Margin?? No Mission!! I could go on and on and on -- but I need to stop. To properly understand what I'm mumbling about -- please consider reading John Harvey Kellogg, M.D. by Richard Schwartz. This book is VERY different than The Road to Wellville. Very different indeed. http://www.amazon.com/John-Harvey-Kellogg-Richard-Schwarz/dp/0828019398/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1431013117&sr=8-2-fkmr0&keywords=john+harvey+kellogg+richard+schwartz  

lawlessline wrote:Orthodoxymoron,

You are a star my friend. I agree with Lionhawk. What you do, where you do it, when you do it, is your beans my friend. If its good for you its good for me as your heart is spot on.
Did that far enough or not far enough? Are you asking for the key to the pit? If open then keep on pushing those mind benders.

Just incase no one has thanked you for what you do here, I would like to do so now. I will be taking sometime off where I can read all the info that you put out there.

Thanks again to you,

t

Carol wrote:

THE EPIC BATTLE OF DULCE, NM – Part One
https://bradleyloves.wordpress.com/2015/05/11/the-epic-battle-of-dulce-nm-part-one/
MAY 11, 2015 / BRADLEY

The following report is presumed to be true. Its content was obtained from the web and the reader may verify its publishing. This is not an advisable read for the weak of heart or someone incapable or unwilling to be advised of unthinkable and unbelievable evil existing in the country and other parts of the world. It will provoke your outrage . . . your disbelief . . . your empathy. The report has a noble ending . . . which I sincerely hope you will realize upon completion. After the initial shock, I trust that the horror of this report prompts your commitment to seek the truth and do whatever is in your power to crush the evil efforts looming in the insane and perverted minds of the elite throughout the world. Your rational intellect will be your biggest challenge when trying to believe this report to be true. Let your heart feel the outrage that will motivate you to confirm the credibility of the report. Knowledge is empowering. Spread the word. And so it is! Edited by: CAPTAIN MARK RICHARDS Published by: Earth Defense Headquarters edhca.org Condensed and re-edited by ‘BRANTON’ with the permission of E.D.H. This is a greatly condensed version of the ‘DULCE BATTLE’ Report. The full 166 page version of this and other E.D.H. Research Reports are available at: edhca.org

Government scientists (the secret government) purportedly labored alongside an alien force to work out the sundry ways the general population could be brought under an ultimate totalitarian control that would leave humanity as little more than farm animals to be used for breeding.

All of which began with a 1947 treaty signed by President Harry Truman, that set in motion a plan where the ELITE obtained alien technological secrets in exchange for permitting the aliens to abduct human subjects for their diabolical research. In time, the elite would be allowed to survive to become the overlords of the human sheep, under ultimate control of the aliens – like the dogs that watch the sheep on a human farm.

Located almost two miles beneath Archuleta Mesa on the Jicarilla Apache Indian Reservation near Dulce, New Mexico was an installation classified so secret its existence would be one of the most protected realities in the world! There was the Earth’s first main joint United States Government/Alien biogenetics laboratory.

Others existed in Colorado, Nevada, and Arizona, not to mention in a number of other locations like Afghanistan and Russia – but Dulce (is)/was the largest. In an era when the officers in charge of the major military units were still part of the generation that looked on young women – potential mothers – as a treasure to be protected, to learn that thousands of young females were being abducted, and even created (cloned, etc.) for use as sex slaves by aliens was simply too much for such men to allow to continue.

The turning point came when National Security Adviser Dr. Zbigniew Brzezinski met withPresident Jimmy Carter in the White House on June 14, 1977 with a number of other intelligence operatives and leaders to bring the President up to speed on a number of top secret programs including ‘Project Aquarius‘ and the work being done at Dulce, Area 51, and other secret bases.

Brzezinski, a member of the power elite that fully backed the ‘Grey’ cause, never guessed that the President would be so shocked that he would turn against Brzezinski and turn to trusted military advisors in the military intelligence community for options on how to stop what had been going on.

The National Security Agency (NSA) had been secretly fighting the alien cause and the humans that worked for or with these aliens since it was established in the mid 1950s. Project Aquarius was originally established in 1953 by order of President Eisenhower and under control of NSC and MJ 12.

In 1966, the Project’s name had been changed from Project Gleem to Project Aquarius, and portions of it went into DEEP COVER, hidden even from the CIA and the NSC. At that point, the NSA had opened Department X (to identify and study all alien or enemy operations that could be a threat to the United States or the Human Race in general), and Department Z (to ‘react’ and ‘neutralize’ any sort of threat to the United States or the Human Race).

Under secret Presidential Order, signed by President Jimmy Carter, the NSA’s Department Z, the newly established DELTA FORCE, and a specially hand-picked group of Air Force SOC, Navy SEAL, and Army Rangers were organized for a mission so secret that not even command officers were told what it was about until the night of the attack.

The only ‘Attack Team’ leaders who knew what this would be about were the men involved in the NSA Department Z, who had been involved with fighting aliens for years. The commanding officer of the attack was none other than Captain Mark Richards, the son of the infamous “Dutchman”, Major Ellis Lloyd Richards, who had been the Commander of International Security (IS) since Admiral Chester W. Nimitz died in 1966.

By 1978, the NSA Department X was warning the human commanders of new programs starting at Dulce that were so frightening that even seasoned men of war were shocked. Thousands of young human females were being ‘created’ in test tubes to be sex slaves for the aliens. But these clones were proving to be less than satisfying for the aliens, because they didn’t suffer the same way that once free victims did.

They could be engineered to provide better sexual tools for some of the stranger life forms, but they were proving to be nearly mindless, and thus couldn’t react with the fear that normal young women could. For that reason, while the clone program would continue, it had been decided that the abduction program would be stepped up – with the forced ‘short-term’ attacks to increase by 1980 to over 100,000 a year, and the facility to be enlarged for long-term victims (who would stay there for as long as they lived) with numbers over 75,000.

The labs at Dulce started cloning human females by a process perfected in the world’s largest and most advanced bio-genetic facility – Los Alamos. The elite humans who manipulated the world’s governments from the shadows would soon have a disposable slave-race for medical culling of body parts and their own perverted pleasures. Like the alien Greys, the U.S. (secret) Government secretly kidnapped and impregnated young females, then removed the hybrid fetus after a three-month time period, before accelerating their growth in laboratories.

Biogenetic (DNA Manipulation) programming was then instilled – many being implanted with all sorts of devices, some that allowed them to be controlled at a distance through RF (Radio Frequency) transmissions. From: EDH Archives: Dulce Interviews; WC-289487346–80: “Level 7 is worse. It was like a whore house for pervert ETs’.

Human females were brought there for ‘experiments’, but you can’t convince me that most of it wasn’t just sadistic pleasure for the Greys. They wouldn’t just impregnate the girls. They would sexually torture them for hours. Sure, there were the scientific procedures, but there were also orgies where a few pretty human females would be given to a large number of Greys for nothing less than a brutal gang- rape.

And this was constant. Hundreds of Greys, and other species that seemed to be friends to the Greys, would come and go every week, for no other clear reason than to take sexual pleasure with the provided human females.” When the truth was evident that sub-humans and other creatures were being produced from abducted human females, impregnated against their will, a secret resistance group formed within the military and intelligence agencies of the U.S. Government that did not approve of the deals that had been made with the ‘Off-Worlders’.

Many of these brave humans would be assassinated or died under mysterious circumstance – or would be silenced in other ways. But in 1979, they would manage a victory that would cost the Greys and the humans that backed the Greys, dearly. The Air Force Intelligence Officer that reportedly was the man who met with the Aliens at Holloman (Air Force Base) in 1964, was the legendary ‘Dutchman’ Ellis Lloyd Richards, Jr. – the same man who would reportedly order the attack on Dulce in 1979, and whose son, Captain Mark Richards, would lead the human attack on the facility.

The Richards’ names come up time and time again when one looks into any of the mentioned Top Secret Projects that Military Intelligence or the Eyes-Only – Top Secret Agency known as International Security were involved in from World War II through the Cold War years.

The in-house political argument that developed within MAJESTIC TWELVE in the late 1970s, when the military/intelligence men objected to the deals with some of the Aliens on the side for the selfish gain of such groups as the Illuminati or the ‘Club of Rome’ at the expense of thousands of innocents, if not all of mankind, helped to cause the rift that would lead to the military action taken against the Dulce Facility in 1979.

Later on in the DULCE BATTLE report, it is written: “It would be one of the Reptoids who taught several of the men involved in the attack on Dulce a number of the informative points that would first cause them to look more deeply into what was being done at the Facility, and then helped them better understand the enemy, and how to defeat them.

Indeed, it would be this Reptoid who communicated the factual basis for a number of the plots being organized against humanity by a number of off-world sources, and (some of them) had proven their willingness to aid the human cause in the Battle for Central Asia in 1976, and in the August 1979 space defense of Earth against alien invaders. It was also (they) who warned of the danger of bacteria it represented to both aliens and humans. In 1979, there were 37 alien species represented at the Dulce facility.

Only 6 of those had their own space or dimensional traveling ability, while the others were guests of the Greys. All of those species that had come as guests of the Greys were there for genetic and reproductive experiments with humans – and 8 of those were also interested in humans as a SOURCE OF FOOD. Of those interested in reproductive experiments, 25 could enjoy direct intercourse with human females (although several needed the female to be placed on special hormone treatments ahead of time), and the facility apparently got the reputation for being a sexual pleasure spot for the quadrant.

Of course, not all the Reptoid-type creatures are friendly towards humans. According to Lear and others, the U.S. government may have made a ‘pact’ with a non-human race as early as 1933. According to some, this ‘race’ is not human yet claims to have had it’s origin on Earth. Some sources allege that this predatory race is of a neo-saurian nature. This has led others to suggest that the dinosaurs, which ruled the surface of the Earth in prehistoric times, may not have become entirely extinct as is commonly believed, but that certain of the more intelligent and biped-hominoid mutations of that race developed a form of intellectual thought equal to or surpassing in some respects that of the human race – especially with their ‘collective mind’ matrix. – Branton

The theory then suggests that some of this race went into space, only to return to find that their founders on their home planet had not survived (on the surface, that is.) However, there are several reports of reptilian humanoids being encountered in deep underground natural cavern systems all over the world and in time, the space-based reptiloids learned of these. – Branton

There were a number of facts quickly put forward. For instance: One branch or mutation of the supposedly extinct Sauroid race, Stenonychosaurus, was according to paleontologists, remarkably hominoid in appearance being 3 1⁄2 to 4 1⁄2 feet in height with possibly greyish- green skin and three digit clawed hands and a partially-opposable ‘thumb’. The opposable thumb and intellectual capacity are the only thing preventing members of the animal kingdom from challenging the human race as the masters of planet Earth.

For instance: The Ape Kingdom possesses opposable thumbs yet, it does not possess the intellectual capacity to use them as humans do. The dolphins possess intellects nearing that of humans but do not possess opposable thumbs or even limbs necessary to build, etc. The cranial capacity of Stenonychosaurus was nearly twice the size of that of human beings, indicating a large and possibly advanced though not necessarily benevolent intellect.

According to researchers such as Brad Steiger, Val Valerian, TAL LeVesque and others, this may actually be the same type of entity or entities most commonly described in ‘UFO’ encounters, as well as the same type of creatures depicted in early 1992 in the nationally viewed CBS presentation ‘INTRUDERS‘.

According to Lear, the government may have established a ‘treaty’ with this (Reptilian) race, which they later learned to their horror was extremely malevolent in nature and were merely using the ‘treaties’ as a means to buy time while they methodically established certain controls upon the human race, with the ultimate goal of an absolute domination.

The fact that a base like Dulce might house dozens of ‘types’ and ‘races’ of ETs would never be admitted by most humans, and would be reduced to the stuff of legends if ever turned over to the general public. The years of work to cover up the alien threat had worked very well by 1979, and normal people would not admit seeing an alien for fear of being called crazy!

The types and races at Dulce at the time of the attack are still in question, and many races have not wanted to admit their taking part in what took place there in 1979. Many victims find their abductors to be nothing less than brutal beasts. The casebooks of researchers are filled with incidents in which malice and hostility played a significant role in the abduction.

Unfortunately, most of the victims who suffer these more vile attacks do not get the chance to make a report to any human authority about the event as they vanish and become another statistic in the growing number of missing persons across the country. By the early 1970s, the number of these missing persons – most all young, white women, was going up.

While the abductions of humans by superhuman forces of varying descriptions appeared to obey the same mechanisms worldwide, it was clear that young white women were the most frequent victims, and that there was little support for abductees should they survive. In the more controlled environment of Dulce, researchers hadn’t any disclosure problems concerning stem cell and cloning research.

The fertilized eggs of hundreds of healthy young human females could be ‘harvested’ constantly for unlimited embryo and stem-cell research’killing’ uncounted human embryos in the search for everything from cures to alien skin infections caused by Earth germs to how to better create a sub-human slave race of cloned worker creatures.

Such research also moved into other dangerous fields, such as ‘enhancing’ humans into becoming creatures that would serve other alien needs. One of the more shocking of these that the ‘attackers’ would find in huge holding pens were the human females who had been ‘enhanced’ to become reproductive ‘cows’ as the need for human milk and reproductive systems had grown. Hundreds of young women had been ‘altered’ to become little more than cows. ‘Free will’ is always dangerous to a fascist society, or a police state!

‘Free will’ is what allowed a group of men to take the moral high-ground, and attack the Dulce Facility. The attack plan centered on crippling the main generator, then doing as much damage as possible while freeing as many victims as possible, started to take shape in the Fall of 1979 after the August space battle between forces of the USAF Space Command and an alien invasion force, with none other than Brigadier General Aderholt (USAF) brought in to head the organization that would be formed for the invasion of the Dulce Facility.

Funded by Texas businessman Ross Perot, CIA/DIA front man Edwin Wilson, and a massive ‘black ops’ fund, long hidden by Major E.L. Richards Jr., the plan moved forward quickly within a small community of intelligence officers and their backers. Brigadier General Harry C. Aderholt would pull a team together in September and October of 1979 that would have made any commanding officer proud, and perhaps shot fear into any enemy who had an idea of what was being put together.

Colonel Roger H.C. Donlon, stationed at Fort Leavenworth at the time, would head one combat team, drawing heavily from the newly formed DELTA FORCE, Navy SEALS, and USAF Special Operations Command (AFSOC). Flight teams were organized by astronaut scientist Karl Gordon Henize, and included the best of the best in combat and test pilots, with special operations training – or who could be counted…

(See Part Two)

THE EPIC BATTLE OF DULCE, NM – Part Two      
https://bradleyloves.wordpress.com/2015/05/11/the-epic-battle-of-dulce-nm-part-two/

orthodoxymoron wrote: I keep wondering if ALL of Us (on a soul-level) originated in (or around) Orion -- and came to Earth in Other-Than-Human Form -- and proceeded to Genetically-Engineer Human-Physicality -- subsequently incarnating into these experimental-bodies -- perhaps in defiance of the Orion PTB -- thus making us "Fallen-Angels"?! As you know -- I've been poking and prodding at this basic hypothesis for quite a while now -- but I never really get too deep into researching the details. It's really too frightening for me -- so I just beat around the "Burning-Bush" while I beat (never mind). As my speculation goes -- a once unified "Orion-Group" descended into ancient and modern civil-wars between various factions of soul-relatives. WE might be the Angels, Demons, Gods, Goddesses, Aliens, et al. WE might be Our Own Worst Enemies.

"Read the Pauline-Epistles in the KJV!!"

B.B.Baghor wrote:

orthodoxymoron wrote:I keep wondering if ALL of Us (on a soul-level) originated in (or around) Orion -- and came to Earth in Other-Than-Human Form -- and proceeded to Genetically-Engineer Human-Physicality -- subsequently incarnating into these experimental-bodies -- perhaps in defiance of the Orion PTB -- thus making us "Fallen-Angels"?! As you know -- I've been poking and prodding at this basic hypothesis for quite a while now -- but I never really get too deep into researching the details. It's really too frightening for me -- so I just beat around the "Burning-Bush" while I beat (never mind). As my speculation goes -- a once unified "Orion-Group" descended into ancient and modern civil-wars between various factions of soul-relatives. WE might be the Angels, Demons, Gods, Goddesses, Aliens, et al. WE might be Our Own Worst Enemies...

I think much of your assumptions are correct, ortho. Fallen angels, that's how I like to see us, while crawling on planet Earth, trying to grow our wings back again   I truly see it like this, that we're the ones that can save us, for we're the ones that can have an understanding of how and why that epic journey of us, human beings now, in time before time, came to pass.

Carol wrote:PART 2
(continued from part one)

…on to keep their silence, including Captain Mark Richards, who was recovering from his command roll of Dragon Squadron in the battle that had taken place in August. While exact numbers of the human force involved is still so protected that there seems to be no firm record of the exact count, there were never more than a few hundred who knew anything about the operation.

The center of the operation was clearly found in USAF Space Command, and the Director of I.S., Major Ellis L. Richards Jr. The President (of the U.S.), the Secretary General of the United Nations, and the Chairman of the JCS were never informed of the pending operation, and it should be noted that the humans and aliens involved in the attack took part in the action without orders or clearances from higher authorities.

Those who fought against the aliens did so against the will of the human elite, many of whom may even be reptilian shape-shifters in human form, according to some sources, like David Icke and others. – Branton The Dulce landing ports were set up to accept the ‘light craft’ and other Mass Accelerator Beam (MAB) Riders used by the Greys to transport from planet to orbital pick-up points.

These craft generated magneto-hydrodynamic thrust, driven by microwaves and pulsed lasers, to accelerate the classic ‘flying saucers’ up to altitudes of 50 kilometers and accelerations that easily allowed orbital velocities. This made the human-style of heavy-lift chemical rockets an expensive folly, and allowed the aliens Earth-to-Orbit travel at will for a relatively low cost. It also gave the human forces a way into the facility.

Because an infrastructure of orbiting stations were used to reflect energy from a solar-power station hidden on the Dark Side of the Moon, there were a number of ways to track such a ship. The light-craft focused the microwave energy to create an air spike that deflected oncoming air – that could be tracked. And electrodes on the vehicle’s rim that ionized air and formed part of the thrust-generating system could be seen by real-time cameras (and even the human eye at close ranges).

Thus, it was planned that one of the attack teams would enter the facility when the main port’s doors were open for an incoming light-craft. This was not going to be an easy stunt. Sensors around the area set off an alarm if anything got too close to the doors, not to mention warn the operators of any air or space vehicle that got too close. The mouth was too small for anything larger than a good sized helicopter, but helicopters would be too slow to reach the doors before the base defensive systems went off.

Because of the special problems of entry into the Dulce Facility, normal helicopter attack would not work. As well trained as they were, to attempt a landing into the hanger area of the facility would have been suicidal. And once inside the port area, any attack force would be likely overwhelmed by the base defenders – unless, whatever craft was used could carry a number of heavy automatic weapons, and land a large number of attackers at one time.

The Greys were quite content that no such craft existed in the human military inventory. And not even the Reptoids had a craft that could be used under all of the required conditions, that wouldn’t be spotted long before it could reach the port. What they hadn’t counted on was one, single, experimental aircraft, that was still so secret that it had never been entered on any inventory list.

Manufactured by the Bell Corporation, the X- 22 was a ‘research’ craft, with some interesting abilities. The first successful V/STOL VSS (Variable Stability System) aircraft, this strange mix of wings, jets, and huge ducted props might not have been pretty, but it was perfect for the mission needs of the Dulce Attack Force.

Because of the lack of time, the only man involved who also had the skill to fly the X-22 under such combat conditions was Captain Mark Richards. Thus he was chosen to lead Combat Assault Team (CAT) Three, that would be responsible for attacking the main landing port – and hold it long enough for other teams to land in conventional helicopters and for the evacuation of CAT’s and victims when the attack was concluded.

According to records, Captain Richards had no more than 12 hours flying the X-22 before he took it into combat. While the attack teams were being organized and trained, the attack itself was being planned by the men responsible for the situation. Objectives and alternative were picked, including a nuclear option in case the manned attack failed.

Astronaut David Griggs was chosen to go with CAT-3 to make an attempt to ‘loot’ one of the alien space ships, while astronaut Ronald Ervin McNair went in as Richards’ co-pilot and ‘laser weapons expert’ (the fact that he was a black belt in Karate also came in highly helpful before the event was over). Astronaut Lieutenant Colonel Ellison S. Onizuka (USAF) and Colonel Stuart Allen Roosa (USAF) also went in as members of CAT-3 to gather information, and hopefully escape with alien ships or equipment, with Colonel Roosa commanding the Material Acquisition Team (MAT).

None of their efforts could be of value, of course, unless the attack plan worked. To make sure of success, the full information gathering ability of several top-secret departments within the NSA was turned loose on Dulce. Facts were gathered from sources far and wide, including everything from sightings listed in newspapers to interviews with people who helped to build the facility. John V. Chambers, a Kentfield, CA resident spent his working life in management and finance of large engineering construction projects.

It would be Chambers, who had been involved with the Bechtel work at Dulce and other top secret government projects, who would be contacted by the forces that intended to attack Dulce, and became convinced to aid them in their effort. It would be Mr. Chambers who would mention a number of weak points in the Dulce systems that would allow an attack to have a much better chance of success. It was Chambers who pointed out major weak points for the aliens.

It seemed that the aliens had reason to worry about a number of the germs found outside the facility, and that some of the alien species were highly vulnerable to a number of human-passed diseases. The germs and bacteria that are everywhere on the planet, that humans and other mammals have (for the most part) developed ways to cope with, can offer great threat to aliens and their life forms. Earth dust, or bacteria blowing on the winds, can be deadly to a life form that has no resistance to such things.

What humans refer to as ‘hay fever’ can be just as deadly to a creature that is having a difficult time ‘breathing’ in the Earth’s oxygen rich atmosphere. It was quickly realized that if the filters used to make Earth’s ‘air’ more acceptable for the aliens could be disabled, many of the enemy would soon be sick and unable to continue to fight, and a large number might simply die on the spot! As the intelligence gathering expanded, a number of shocking facts were uncovered. In 1947, the Dutchman had been involved with Admiral Byrd in the attack of the last Nazi base at the South Pole.

Now he and others would come to better understand the connections thatelite humans had developed with aliens, from the days of the Nazi efforts to modern times. This included helping the aliens to build secret bases all over the Earth (including the base at the South Pole, and the facility at Dulce), aiding in the abduction of young women for alien research and pleasure needs, and the addition of more pollution to the planets atmosphere to bring on global warming and make the Earth more friendly to alien life forms.

One of the most shocking finds was the extent of the alien underground base-and- transportation network. While tube-trains had been expected, the vast bases that had been created came as a shock to even the best informed officers. The reason such bases became more important now was that the human forces had to quickly find out where every base was that might react to an attack on Dulce, and how long it would take before they might send rescue forces. Another question was, how would they react in general?

Might they attack humanity in some more deadly fashion than simply abducting a few thousand females a year? In the end it became clear that because of divisions in alien intentions, there was little organization between groups. Like a number of competing collages at a ruin, for the most part they were only interested in their own little outpost and research.

In a report filed in early 1980, believed by a number of CIA sources to have been written by Brigadier General Aderholt, the author states: “What those young men did was nothing less than the stuff of legend. Against overwhelming numbers and technology, they fought from Level 1 (containing the garages and hangers) down into the bowels of the enemy base. Portions of the combat took, and held, the Level 2 ports where tunnel shuttles and disc maintenance areas would have allowed enemy reinforcements to enter, while the main force charged forward towards Level 6, and ‘Nightmare Hall’, to rescue the thousands of human victims kept there.”

They were not ready for what they found in Level 6. Reports spoke of multi-armed and multi- legged humans and cages (and vats) of humanoid bat-like creatures as tall as 7-feet. The aliens had learned a great deal about genetics, things both useful and frightening. And most of it had been learned at the cost of human suffering and lives. Captain Leathers’ flight reached Level 7 first, blowing the main HUB entrance open and neutralizing the security force there with extreme prejudice in less than 45 seconds.

On entering the security station, they realized the extent of the facility for the first time, finding systems for watching and controlling over 30,000 captives on that one level (alone), and the control and security systems for moving the captives to ‘testing facilities’ and ‘pleasure centers’ in over 62 different locations – where another 4,600 captives were currently kept. Captain Leathers’ report to I.S. would mention the moment: “I looked out over holographic images of scenes of horror that are impossible to express in words, and a zoo of human being in various states of health and mental condition. Seeing images of young women being tortured at that very moment, all I could think of were my own daughters for several moments.

Then I collected my wits, and gave the order to move forward to release as many of the victims as we could.” While the original mission plan had called for the teams to attack, smash as much of the enemy facility as they could, and withdraw in less than half an hour, the introduction of so many human victims added a new dimension to the problems at hand.

While none of the officers in charge will admit to who made the order, recorded radio communications, and eyewitnessreports, seem to suggest that Aderholt allowed the young Richards to change the mission demands as the numbers of ‘savable’ victims became more apparent. Captain Leathers – I.S. report reads: “It wasn’t like we had choices.

We couldn’t leave those poor girls behind alive. We knew that any that we didn’t evacuate, we were going to have to terminate. Our problem was simply numbers. Thousands of aliens trying to kill us. Thousands of human females screaming for help. Thousands more so far gone that we knew we would have to leave them behind. Thousands of enemy troops starting to arrive on the subway trains. We just weren’t set up for a mass evacuation.

The sub-tube back to New York, and one to Mexico, seemed to still be open, so we started loading girls into tube trains and shooting them off as soon as we knew our forces were in control of the stations at the other ends. We blew two air shafts wide open, so a couple squads could get girls out that way into the fresh air where hopefully our people could pick them up. CAT-4 took a real beating as they fought to keep alien reinforcements from entering the main sub tube stations.

There is no doubt in my mind that we stayed in the facility too long, but at the time it was very hard to leave those poor young women behind. You knew that everyone you failed to send out in front of you was going to die, and soon.” Exactly one hour after the X-22 had first attacked the main port entry,

Aderholt ordered a full recall. David Griggs and R.E. McNair had by then managed to get two alien craft airborne – one disk-craft and one of the highly advanced triangle fighter-craft – and were running for Area 51. Roosa’s men also had managed to get a huge disk-shuttle moving, in which over 3,600 human females had been loaded and were now being taken to a safe base. The human female survivors were taken to several top secret military bases where they were ‘deprogrammed’ and ‘rehabilitated’ so that they could be slowly farmed back into society with no memory of what they had suffered.

As the mysterious ‘Commander X’ stated: “From my own intelligence work within the military, I can say WITH ALL CERTAINTY that one of the main reasons the public has been kept in total darkness about the reality of UFOs and ‘aliens’ is that the truth of the matter actually exists TOO CLOSE TO HOME TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT.

How could a spokesman for the Pentagon dare admit that five or ten thousand feet underground EXISTS AN ENTIRE WORLD THAT IS FOREIGN TO A BELIEF STRUCTURE WE HAVE HAD FOR CENTURIES?  How could, for example, our fastest bomber be any challenge to those aerial invaders when we can only guess about the routes they take to the surface; eluding radar as they fly so low headed back to their underground lair?  

The ‘Greys’ or the ‘EBEs’ have established a fortress, spreading out to other parts of the U.S. via means of a vast underground tunnel system THAT HAS VIRTUALLY EXISTED BEFORE RECORDED HISTORY”.

All of the men involved in any of the attack teams were either ‘mind-wiped’ or sworn to secrecy on pain of death or terminated by higher-level insiders following the battle, self- serving politicians and ‘elite’ who had nothing to do with initiating the attack, but who had everything to do with suppressing any information concerning it after the fact.

Because the officers in charge were seen as heroes by many of the political right-wing that took control in Washington in 1981, most were protected by the changing political elite.

Many of those who had either openly backed the alien cause, or had profited from it in one way or another, were forced to pull back from their position for nearly ten years. Only when George Bush Sr. became President were the aliens able to return, and then only in much smaller numbers.

The Battle of Dulce ended the alien hope for using the Earth as a breeding tank for a subspecies, or for their take-over of the planet at any time in the near future. While the Grey’s restarted a breeding program in 1993 and some of the lower levels of the Dulce Facility were reopened by 1998, the numbers are in the tens or hundreds rather than the thousands.

And USAF Space Command now tracks all alien craft with the constant threat that Top Secret Flights can react and attack an other world enemy at any moment with dramatic results. Over 50 years of intense UFO interest, investigation, researching, evaluation, and theorizing by countless UFO aficionados have enabled modern field investigators to better examine, evaluate, and identify many of the unusual airborne objects that are being reported.

Yet a small percentage of the reports continue to elude positive identification. Rumors of what took place at Dulce in 1979 have already been reduced to legend at the end of the 20th century. Indeed, the continued ‘conmen’ involved with such reports have helped the USAF cover the truth of events that took place at Dulce, and continue to aid in the effort to hide the ruined facility and those who took part in events there.

Men like Intelligence Officer William Cooper, who have become too loose with their knowledge of the truth, can be discredited in any number of ways, or terminated if they become too great a threat. It should be clear from their actions, and their willingness to challenge authority, that these men must never be allowed into such a position of power or authority again (or rather, such is the mindset of the human – or shape shifting!? – elite).

While the “Dutchman” was terminated in 1996, and his son will be in prison for the rest of his life, the mindset itself that created such men must be crushed if the human race is to know peace with the aliens (but then again, the elite & gray-alien version of ‘peace’ is more akin to ‘assimilation’. – Branton.

The illusion of freedom that may be lost by those few who know what is really going on, will be a worthy exchange for amazing technology that will come into the hands of the human elite (so they reason) that takes part in the new transfer. This may not take place easily, of course, until all human resistance has been removed either through retraining or through conquest.

(This is the distorted reasoning of the ‘elite’ who would sell out our planet for their own selfish personal physical gain).

One of the key lessons to be learned from the Dulce Battle is as long as there are small, highly trained and well equipped human forces, that can, may, or will go into action on their own accord to protect the people of the Earth, easy conquest of the planet becomes difficult.

A departmentalized military, with some branches so ‘top secret’ that even the political elite who rule the country aren’t too sure of what is out there, is a threat to any enemy. At this time, there are arms of the USAF Space Command so Top Secret that no one in the Pentagon knows that they exist in anything but legend.

If humanity is to survive long enough for it to take a historic place in the civilized social structures of the universe, they must either defend themselves from any life-form that would harm them or their planet, or surrender themselves to some sort of interplanetary police force that will protect them.

At this time, only rumors of such a police force have reached those in the know, leaving self-defense as the only real option. The men who attacked the Dulce Facility in 1979 understood that reality, and took the task of defending humanity into their own hands. One can only make subjective guesses at what might have happened if they had not done what they did.



For additional information and links:

http://www.angelfire.com/ut/branton/THEDULCEBATTLE.htm

TERMS: CAT = Combat Assault Team.

FAT = Filter Attack Team.

MAT = Material Acquisition Team.

IS = International Security

VAT = Victim Assistance Team.

CUT = Clean up Team.

PLAYERS:

BRIGADIER GENERAL H.C. ADERHOLT: Mission Commander.

COL. CHARLES BECKWITH: Commander of Delta Force & CAT-1. J.V. CHAMBERS: Engineer for Bechtel.

WILLIAM COOPER: Intelligence Officer.

COLONEL R.H.C. DONLON: Commander CAT-4.

DAVID GRIGGS: Astronaut, liberated UFO.

COMMAND SGT. MJR.. E.L. HANEY: Delta Force Commander/Writer.

GENERAL R.T. HERRES: Commander of USAF Communications Command at Scott Air Force Base, Ill.

KARL GORDON HENIZE: Organized mission flight teams.

GENERAL D.C. JONES: Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff.

CAPTAIN W.R. LEATHERS: Commander CAT-2. R.E. McNAIR: Laser expert, liberated UFO.

LIEUTENANT COL. E.S. ONIZUKA: Commander of FAT, liberated UFO.

ROSS PEROT: Helped to fund the mission.

MAJOR E.L. RICHARDS, JR. – ‘The Dutchman’ – Commander in Chief of the Dulce Mission, Head of I.S.

CAPTAIN M. RICHARDS: Commander of CAT-3.

COLONEL S.A. ROOSA: Commander

MAT. EDWIN WILSON: Helped to fund the mission.

Carol wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLqaWqLobcjd3V7r2daD2EYPkK-bdAABvf&v=Gwahn7a1Lso
http://www.spherebeingalliance.com
GoodETxSG Part I Secret Space Program, ET Federation Delegation & MILAB Participant

This is the original recording made of GoodETxSG when he was able to speak for the first time about his experiences. Originally he didn't want this recording to be made public for reasons that will become obvious as you watch this extraordinary video.

GoodETxSG was abducted into service as a child and categorized as an intuitive empath, he has personal hands-on experience in military remote viewing, inter-dimensional portal travel, travel in advanced spacecraft, and attendance of large-scale meetings with ETs in which human representatives played only a minor role.

He has knowledge of the role of Artificial Intelligence, the threat posed by ET 'trojan horse' AI infiltration, what some of the small 'Gray' beings really are, and of past 'Breakaway Civilizations' that existed here before us, preceding the current one on Planet Earth.

This is a fascinating conversation, which was recorded when I, Christine visited him at his home in September/October 2014.

It's really not so much an interview, but a very natural, informally flowing conversation, recorded in two parts separated by a week.
It wasn't clear initially whether any of this would ever be made public.

But then my friend decided he wanted to go on record, and it became my pleasure and privilege to support him in this.

Visit our new website: http://earthempaths.net (New Site/Forum)

In honor we stand with all spiritual warriors in our courageous search for truth, forging for ourselves and those who follow a path leading to humanity's ultimate freedom.

magamud wrote:"What if Jesus and Mary are really two sides of the same coin?"
They are, its just in the mixture and your use of Angel lore is good.  Its when the focus comes into physicality that you are losing tangibility.  This is what Christ was pointing at with his body in relation to consciousness.


"When I go silent at the end of the month".
I would suggest exercises to physicalize your body.  Nature, health, horticulture, organics, sociology, sex?  Group worship?


"This was truly inspiring and refreshing!"
Good news!  Keep up the good work.  I salute you...

Carol wrote:

Dr. Michael Salla, Exopolitics.org 5-12-15… “Extraterrestrial alliance helps
secret space program overcome opposition to full disclosure”
https://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2015/05/12/currently-involved-on-other-projects-but-feel-free-to-read-this-from-michael-salla/

Corey Goode (aka GoodETxSG) has revealed more about his claimed contact experiences with a group of extraterrestrials called the Sphere Alliance that is cooperating with an alliance of secret space programs indigenous to Earth. He has earlier revealed that there are five secret space programs belonging to our current Earth civilization, as well as between five to seven space programs belonging to ancient human civilizations that are still operating. Several of these secret space programs indigenous to Earth make up what he calls the Secret Space Program (SSP) Alliance, which should not be confused with the Sphere Alliance which he claims comprise five different extraterrestrials races that are here to assist humanity deal with an upcoming “Event” that will change life dramatically on the planet.

Corey claims to have attended several off-planet meetings where three of these extraterrestrial races belonging to the Sphere Alliance, have appeared. The alien race which he has communicated with the most is called the Blue Avians – one of whom he met with as recently as this past weekend is called “Tear-Eir”. In addition to his recent contact experiences, Corey also claims to have earlier served, from 1987 to 2007 with several secret space programs as an Intuitive Empath. In an earlier question and answer email exchange, Corey described the five secret space programs as follows:

Solar Warden –  mainly focused on policing the Solar System and surrounding Star Clusters;
Interplanetary Corporate Conglomerate (ICC) – focused mainly on development and aquisition of technology by any means.
Dark Fleet – worked almost entirely outside the Sol System, Very Military (Offensive),
“NATO TYPE SSP” – Recently in Alliance Conferences they were referred to as the “League of Nations Program.”
Various Special Access Program SSP’s that were small, usually had the newer technology, very secretive and worked for some of the Secret Earth Governments

In his answers to my most recent questions sent by email (see below), Corey describes why the Solar Warden space program, the first program to be established in the contemporary era, was picked by the Sphere Alliance to be given technological assistance. The Solar Warden Program along with the other programs belonging to the SSP Alliance have been given advanced technologies to neutralize the prior technological advantage of “negative” or “service-to-self” groups described as the Cabal/Illuminati, Draco Reptilians, etc.

In addition, Corey addresses questions concerning the current political situation such as President Putin’s disappearance for 10 days (March 6-16) and the possibility that he secretly attended one of the Sphere Alliance meetings; President Obama’s March 12 comment about extraterrestrials controlling the US government; Pope Francis’ role with extraterrestrial disclosure; Edward Snowden acting with the tacit support of other NSA officials in releasing classified information; and the upcoming Sept 23 meeting between President Obama and Pope Francis.

It’s worth mentioning that at this stage Corey has not given any documentary evidence to support his incredible claims, nor has anyone else come forward to confirm their participation in alleged meetings involving the Sphere Alliance and the 10-12 Secret Space Programs indigenous to Earth. Nevertheless, Corey has had a number of researchers who have come forward claiming that anonymous insiders have confirmed that Corey did indeed serve with one or more Secret Space Programs. The most prominent among them is David Wilcock who has given a number of presentations where he cites his exhaustive efforts through his insider contacts with knowledge of secret space programs to confirm Corey’s background.

In my own case, I have heard from Randy Cramer (aka Captain Kaye) that what he has read so far of Corey’s testimony is consistent with his own 20 year experience with different secret space programs. In addition, to the similarities between Randy’s and Corey’s testimonies (described here), there are important similarities between Michael Relfe’s testimony of having served for 20 years on Mars in a secret space program from (1976-1996), and what Corey has revealed.

Finally, I found Corey’s knowledge of a Secret Space Program that can be traced to the Mayan civilization as very impressive given my own personal experiences with a representative from such a program who secretly approached me in 2010. As I wrote in an earlier article, this was powerful personal corroboration that Corey’s testimony is genuine. Combined with the corroborating testimonies from other whistleblowers involved in secret space programs, I highly recommend considering Corey’s testimony as quite possibly the most comprehensive revelation of secret space programs and extraterrestrial intervention to have emerged to date.[/center]

B.B.Baghor wrote: ortho's words: "I wish to move-on to Clean Sheet of Stone Solutions -- but History must be properly handled -- so as to provide a Sustainable Foundation for New Theologies and Philosophies. For me -- studying theology is sort of like the guy who hits himself over the head with a hammer -- because it feels so good when he quits!!"

Some parts of your posts, like the last sentence in this one above, could well fit in the Humour thread, ortho, You keep hitting the nail on its head, it seems, in your view on studying theology and other statements you make about how you manage and maintain your thread. If I've understood your explanations in your thread, ortho, your intention is to invite members and visitors here and to discuss its content and find understanding and clarity due to that.

Thank-you B.B. All of this involves a rarely achieved understanding of the world, solar system, and universe -- which I suspect "Top-People" understand very clearly. This is NOT a touchy-feely support-group. This is a royal-model walk on the wild-side!! It involves a lot of experience and experiences -- along with material provided by others. What people (and other than people) do with this is up to them.

I keep coming back at my trying to understand, what it is that you're looking for in your thread. I'm having a go at it and move forward, by groping and trying, no hunt for an answer as if the end of this discussion should be near. The question mark may remain in it, if you get what I mean. To me it looks like this, that you show up in your thread in two different ways (or roles, deliberately chosen?)

I guess I'm attempting to give substance to my suppositions. This discussion might never end. This is about Revelation and Mystery. A "Space-Cowboy" Individual of Interest spoke to me about "Mystery" in an approving manner. They also spoke about the "good-side" of Anna in "V" in an approving manner. They spoke to me about pre-cognition and remote-viewing (with military-applications). They spoke to me about who should "really run the world". They spoke to me about how UFO's work (something about gravity and always falling). They spoke of wishing to construct a UFO. They spoke of working with the Pentagon. They spoke to me about Orion. They reminded me of the "Cowboy" in Mulholland Drive.

At times you're the observer looking at its content from without, which seems to be the intention of the initial plan, with your US of the SS-Final Cut. At other times you're the person actively present in your thread, sharing your observations and feelings on how you see yourself doing and the probable futility of it in the eyes of others, as you seem to perceive may be the case.

I pretend to be someone I'm not -- to create a Science-Fictional Psycho-Drama -- to make points which could not otherwise be made. This mostly seems to have fallen on "deaf-ears". It's probably mostly a personal-exercise which I am sharing with a few alphabet-interns. I wonder how many of them have gone nuts? I'm actually being somewhat serious.

This seems to come from within you, ortho, as if it's felt that way, real time. If this is what you call "modelling", I can't say I understand what you mean by that and what it's purpose is. And besides, I'm not sure if that's what it is, ortho. Is it with the intention to share your large amount of documentation and views, to see if they're appreciated as subjects for a discussion? Without the need to find understanding, for this is already material that is understood by you?

It sometimes seems as if I am "Channeling-Myself". I sometimes imagine myself in important historical, contemporary, and prophetic roles -- so as to provide myself and others with rare-insights into the "Way Things Might've Been or Might Be" as the "Saddest Words That Fingers Can Type". I've actually found some remarkable evidences that I might be some sort of a "Significant Historical Soul" -- but I have no idea whether that would be a good-thing, or not. Some of my questions are rhetorical -- but most are inquisitive. I keep hoping that the right-individuals will systematically and exhaustively answer my many questions (here or in some other context).

Or is your need of understanding, with the help of discussions, that you welcome here? I risk wrapping conclusions around my questioning here, due to a groping for my understanding. Forgive me if that's perceived that way, by you, ortho. This is the thing, you see, we always have to deal with being at risk in misunderstanding, for the difficulty of only exchanging views in this virtual way. I can imagine there must be some sort of strong drive in you, connected to an urge to find a way to a life with purpose. To me, it seems to be like this, that you feel the clarity for finding it is present outside of you.

I doubt that I will find a "Purposeful-Life" in "Real-Life" so I am forced to construct a "Significant-Existence" in Cyberspace as some sort of a "Cyberspace-Cowboy". I am often forced to bring discussions from other threads into this thread -- so as to artificially manufacture conversation within this particular thread. I often seem to be "shunned" on this site -- and in "real-life".

To me, at times, there seems to have happened a reversal of priorities, in the way you handle your thread, as if the exploring and research that you do, have moved to the first position, as a goal in itself. For I see you asking questions, asking questions about the asked questions, ignoring investigations by others sometimes due to the insistent questioning popping up in you. At times, reading parts of your posts, I wonder if there are answers that will satisfy you, if they're searched for.

The Rare Responses by Others are often catalysts for further questioning and speculation. Most of the material on this thread is the work of others (ignored or otherwise). Responses are sometimes off-topic -- and I seek to stay on track -- which might appear to be ignoring various responders. Thinking deeply about the words of others does not always produce direct-responses from me. I'm sometimes a bit like a psychiatrist or psychologist asking leading questions. Jesus asked a lot of questions. Consider reading Jesus: An Interview Across Time by Dr. Andrew G. Hodges. http://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Interview-Psychiatrist-Christs-Humanity/dp/0825427908

I truly wonder what will happen if you at any given moment will find an answer or give up this quest, quieting that mind of yours. I don't mean to suggest that you should stop posting, ortho, I simply wonder in what way your arrival at the end of your quest, feeling that you've found the answers you need, will affect you. Do you expect to feel you will miss the ponder and wonder, the multifaceted way of reflecting on topics that you express in your thread here in the Mists? It's a genuine question, I hope you will perceive it that way

The quest will probably become so dark and controversial that I will be forced to not talk about it publicly or privately. This thing might honestly end in tragedy and great sorrow. I'm NOT expecting a happy-ending.

"What the Hell Are We Going to do with Orthodoxymoron??!!"

"I'm Your New Research-Assistant, Oxy! Nice 600 Square-Foot Office-Apartment!"

B.B.Baghor wrote:Thank you for highlighting this SaLuSa material, ortho. Just to understand you better, is your encounter with the people who were followed by an UFO and had after-death encounters, in a way connected to the SaLuSa messages?

There is no connection (as far as I know) -- other than being supernatural and otherworldly. This thread is just a big melting-pot of strange roads-less-traveled. There is a basic theme -- but I try not to get into harangue-mode. I just seem to make everyone angry with my irreverent and questioning approach -- as I search for solutions which might ultimately benefit everyone.

I've always paid attention to those messages by SaLuSa, for I feel an energy of loving kindness in them. I'm, like you, no devotee or disciple, of beings or organizations. I fell in the cauldron of religion and had enough of the magic potion for the remaining part of my life   I found that the general view on our soul-purpose/journey, by SaLuSa, is similar to the one in the message by Jeshua, I posted today. In the Mercedes Kirkel thread.

B.B.Baghor wrote:

Christ's face in window Presbyteran Church Albany
Photo by David Hinchen

Received by Mercedes Kirkel  On February 5, 2015

Yeshua: What I wish to bring forth is very simple, perhaps not easy, but nonetheless simple. It is about healing.

There is really only ever one healing, which is the healing of separation from God. All other healing is a variation upon that, a certain frequency within that, which an individual may be more open to receiving in a particular moment. Ultimately, it does not matter if someone is healed physically or not. Certainly we care about others. Certainly our heart wishes others to be in their wellness, in their wholeness. Yet there are times, quite a few times, when it is pain that draws someone to God. So the healing is never about relieving pain or suffering. The healing is about relieving separation from God.

You cannot necessarily tell this to people, unless they are ready to hear it, because they won’t understand. You may choose to offer healing of pain or suffering, and that may support someone in their path of coming closer to God. But ultimately, it is not your job to relieve anyone of pain. Your job is to fulfill your path of offering your gifts and service—to God and to the world—in the way that is most right for you. Then let go of the results because the results are divinely orchestrated. You are playing your part in this divine orchestra.

This is what I wish to offer. Are there any questions you wish to ask?

Question: In my particular case, is doing healing work one of the possible things that helps me to fully express my soul?

Yeshua: You will always know what helps you to express your soul because the things your soul is choosing for its expression are the things that connect you to God. So this is the measure you can use to determine if something is your path. Ultimately, you do healing for yourself, because it is your path to do so and by following your path you are connecting to God. It is your connection to God that serves others, more than anything you do to alter their circumstance. Your connection to God helps them most directly to connect to God. If healing is the pathway through which you can offer that, then that is your path. If chewing bubble gum is the pathway through which you can offer that, that is your path. It does not matter.

Questioner: I also feel close to God through gardening.

Yeshua: Yes. And there are all sorts of ways that you bless the Earth and all the people on the Earth through every touch of the Earth. There are infinite ways to serve. It is all about your connection to God and what lights you up, what brings your joy, what brings you passion—which is simply the energy of God filling you.

Questioner: (crying) That’s what I miss the most about my daughter [who died]. I felt like the love of God would shine through her eyes. Almost immediately after she died, I realized I’m left here on Earth to create that, without having it be for her.

Yeshua: Yes, you are understanding perfectly.

Questioner: The beauty that I saw in her was just God’s love shining through.

Yeshua: Absolutely. That is all there is. That is all this realm consists of. Any being stays in this realm until they realize that and become God’s light themselves. Then they are ready to leave and continue in another realm.

Questioner: My mother, in her dementia, has been screaming out that she was abused when she was younger. The doctors are wondering if this really happened, but I have no proof. Can you tell me if this actually happened?

Yeshua: You are not understanding what’s happening correctly.

The mind is a filter. The mind filters out the vast amount of information contained in your whole universe, which is the kind of information that exists in the Akashic Record—the information of everything. This would totally overwhelm beings and they would be nonfunctional if they received all this information. So the mind filters this out. When someone has dementia, they are losing their filter. So your mother is opening up to massive amounts of information that may be hers and may be others’.

Ultimately, it does not matter if this happened to her or did not happen to her, if it happened to her in this lifetime or if it happened to her in another lifetime. It does not matter. It is her reality now. She is experiencing this now. So you should relate to her as though this is what’s happening now.
Give her the exact response you would give her if this were definitely the truth and her real situation—because it is, for her.

She may very well need healing. I would say she definitely needs compassion and a safe space to express her pain. Support her in expressing her pain and allow her to do so. Let her know, “Yes, yes, I hear how much pain you’re in, how painful and awful that must have been. Is there more you want to share?” Let her share. And help her, just as you would if this had happened recently.

I offer you my deepest, fullest blessings".

2015 Mercedes Kirkel, http://www.mercedeskirkel.com, All Rights Reserved. Permission is given to share this message as long as the message is posted in its entirety, nothing has been changed or altered in any way, and Mercedes Kirkel’s credit of authorship, this copyright notice, and Mercedes Kirkel’s website (http://www.mercedeskirkel.com) are included. To receive ongoing messages from Mary Magdalene and others, go to http://www.mercedeskirkel.com and sign up for the Into The Heart weekly newsletter.

orthodoxymoron wrote:My focus on the concept of the Science-Fictional Hybrid-Queen is somewhat reflective of Lilith -- Isis -- the Queen of Sheba -- the Black Madonna -- Cleopatra -- and Mary Magdalene. I tend to gravitate toward the Mean-Queen Theme. What Would Bloody-Mary Do?? Do you really wanna know??? I am presently very-open and very-skeptical toward just about everyone and everything -- including most of the material I post on "my" thread. Anybody can write or say just about anything. A lot of religious stuff is very difficult (or even impossible) to verify. Lawyer-Like Theologians and Preachers can slant things in a most dishonest and nefarious manner. A channeled religious-figure could really be some demonic-entity (for all anyone knows). I honestly don't know if I am fundamentally good or bad (especially in previous incarnations). Life is really a big annoying question-mark for me. I have a particular editorial-slant -- but I am even skeptical of that. I have no idea how much I think and say is representative of the way things really are. No idea at all. I'm presently reading a book about Mary Magdalene by Lynn Picknett. It's quite fine -- but I'm reading it with a Dead-Sea of Salt. http://www.amazon.com/Mary-Magdalene-Lynn-Picknett/dp/0786713119/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1426017841&sr=8-1&keywords=lynn+picknett Tradition and history have made of her "the other Mary." Even in the New Testament Mary Magdalene stands among women second only to Mary the Mother, albeit she has been reduced by the biblical Gospels to little more than a fallen woman redeemed by Jesus. In the Gnostic Gospels, however, Magdalene figures almost as significantly as Christ, who names her "the woman who knows all." The conflicting accounts of Mary Magdalene have sent best-selling author Lynn Picknett on a quest for the truth that has led her to the thirteenth-century cult of the Black Madonna, then back to Christianity's beginnings and earlier. Tracing Mary's name to Magdala in Egypt, Picknett learns that the term Magdal-eder means "tower of the flock," or Good Shepherd, a title also given to Jesus Christ. Based on her explorations into new scholarship on recently discovered Gnostic texts, Picknett finds a vital partnership between Jesus and Mary that synthesized Eastern and Egyptian mysticism and that promulgated gender equality, anointing rites, and sexual rituals. In that relationship, she discovers an alliance that Christ's Apostles and, later, the Catholic Church strove ardently to suppress. Picknett's revelations rarely fail to provoke at least a reconsideration of long-accepted church doctrine.

B.B.Baghor wrote:

ortho's words: "I'm presently reading a book about Mary Magdalene by Lynn Picknett. It's quite fine -- but I'm reading it with a Dead-Sea of Salt"

Your sense of humor is priceless, ortho, at least you can read the book while floating, on the sea of tears, in laughter or sadness

On my part, regarding my way of dealing with such messages like in this thread and other channeled material, or those on ET existence, intraterrestrial beings, from hands on experience, astral traveling or through hearing voices, also views from all kind of sources on global affairs of all 13 kinds, I usually make sense of them, when I feel I can relate to the content, feeling touched by it in a good way. And inspired, uplifted or heart-warmed.

I've made it a habit, to explore at least 5 sources of a certain piece of information, comparing and making sense of it or not. Grains of salt are very useful, also having them near, when reading my sometimes bold statements. I mean the style, not the content, This statement is an example of what I mean, throwing confusion in for those who can read between my/the lines.

I try to study various approaches without becoming submissive to particular personalities and/or power-structures -- but this is not fundamentally rebellious in nature. I'm honestly attempting to positively-reinforce everyone and everything -- even if it doesn't seem like it.

If I may ask, ortho, was your encounter with the being (or beings?) with the name of an Ancient Egyptian Deity, in person, or did it occur in the astral realms? That first blue spaceship-deck picture in your post looks great, that "window with a view". What a view!

It was in-person over several months. It was rather interesting and intense. I have repeatedly featured this close-encounter throughout this thread -- but I haven't made a great-big deal about it. A visitor or casual-observer would probably miss it altogether. I'd like to travel the cosmos in a spaceship -- but the price of admission might be way too high -- and I strongly advise against getting into a UFO. The Ancient Egyptian Deity was a Guardian of the Galaxy kind of guy -- and I'm NOT kidding!!

B.B.Baghor wrote: ortho's words: "I try to provide a wide variety of posts -- despite accusations that I just keep saying the same things over and over again. On the other hand, if I were inconsistent, I would be accused of being confused and unstable. I frankly don't care what anyone thinks. I simply want everyone to think. Period".

Comment in the tubby with the grizzly bears catching salmon, in your post "For every salmon that is caught, hundreds make it past the bears......."

Once upon a time -- I had a digital voice-recorder which worked perfectly -- expect when recording one particular individual. A normal-sounding voice became a hideous gravely (almost demonic) voice when played-back on that particular digital-recorder!! This occurred repeatedly (without exception). I mentioned this to the Ancient Egyptian Deity -- to which they replied "Some Slip Through". Honest.

Honestly, ortho, comments on your saying the same things over and over, to me that's not an accusation. When I share that opinion, it's a comment on how it's perceived by me. For some reason you seem to be fixed on that judgment, of being accused, so that you feel compelled to repeat your message, in order to prove you're right or to make clear what it is you're after. That's a possible checkmate position, to me.

So -- is this a King and Queen War-Game?? I often feel like a Completely Ignorant Pawn!! Please remember that I am honestly modeling concepts and personalities which do NOT reflect who I am in "real-life". I might share some of the inclinations and biases -- but I don't behave like this in everyday life. What scares me is that the ease with which I model on this thread leads me to wonder if I might've been somewhat like this in previous lives. I'm honestly NOT channeling some nefarious entity. I don't do anything even remotely creepy. I might be channeling myself. Was it Lionhawk who spoke of channeling themselves?? I can't quite remember -- but I know it was someone on this forum who is no longer posting. Each of my posts are the same -- only different -- reflecting the concept of "Theme and Variations". I honestly keep feeling as though I was somehow set-up in this incarnation -- where every behavior and editorial-slant would be somehow used against me -- with the general theme of Build Them Up -- and Knock Them Down.

It's your reaction, to feel an accusation and you seem stuck in it. You're as much trying to live up to expectations of your audience as dictating your rules how the audience should listen. I think that you're in one of the most patient and kind forum here, with many members, including me, communicating with you in an open-minded way and with good intentions.

I can't dictate Rules of Listening. What Would Julian Treasure Say?? I can't even get others to listen. Period. This is a highly tolerant forum -- but I often feel as if I am silently being fed enough rope to hang myself (which I seem to be effectively and efficiently doing each and every day). I seem to be somehow protected -- while I continue to destroy myself. I guess I keep thinking that if I am never built-up -- it is more difficult to knock me down. This whole thing is frankly a Most Dangerous Game to me. It's so sad -- that it's almost funny...

I don't choose to belittle you or your thread, or display a smiling face, at the same time shaking my head inside. Some may do that here, to sort of please you. That's not helping, does it? Many of those who read your thread, have shown you they appreciate your presence here and (maybe with some difficulty) also your thread. You are not your thread, see? That's where the sting is present, or so it seems. I feel a sameness in your trying hard and my trying hard, in a way.

Forgive me for repeating this -- but you often remind me of "Angela" in that 1978 movie "The Word" (which sends chills up and down my spine). That's actually a compliment. I honestly feel like a sci-fi script-writer. Decades ago, I spoke with a very famous Hollywood-Director's Stepmother about wishing for "someone" to create a High-Tech Science-Fictional "Life of Christ" Based Upon The Desire of Ages by Ellen White. Honest. She spoke of her stepson being fearful. Now I think I understand why -- based upon which movies were being made at that time -- and what I know now.

There's an obstacle between people's minds present here, reading your thread and yours presenting food for thought in it. So far, you don't receive what you're aiming at, that's made clear by you. To me, it seems that somewhere there's an opinion put on ice. My efforts to clarify or understand, may prove that "never the twain shall meet." That opinion on ice, or a prefixed idea, may be in the mind of the readers, in my mind also, for I truly find it hard to follow, where your mind goes, or is, ortho.

I have repeatedly stated that this thread merely scratches the surface. I could make this MUCH more complex and graphic. I've been around highly-educated English and Australian Theologians and Preachers -- and it's quite humbling -- and even a bit creepy. Some of you know what I'm talking about. This thread is sort of Gizeh-Intelligence for the Rest of Us!!

Can we meet halfway? That could work maybe....... I think    I'm honestly thinking out loud, to myself mainly, sharing it here with a purpose, if you can get that. Is making sense done by thinking? Is humour a way to bypass the trap of absolute truth and perfection? When is an answer given that is also received as an answer?

Perhaps. I'm honestly attempting to understand what Genuine Fundamentalist Biblical Theology in the Context of Ancient and Modern Science-Fiction really looks like. My starting-point is that Everyone is Right -- and Everyone is Wrong -- which makes everyone angry and indignant. Irreverent-Humor seems to be destroying me -- little by little -- yet it seems to serve a utilitarian-purpose presently -- so I shall continue to crucify myself. We all have our crosses to bear -- don't we?? Orthodoxymoron or Wave of the Future?? Time Will Tell -- as it always does...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhGuXCuDb1U

Tim Minchin's Storm the Animated Movie

To me, this is a delicious merging of instinctual view and overview. Those 2 views are meant to be made aware in one moment, as I see it, in a positive "the twain shall meet".

I learned "Combining-Opposites" from Shirley Maclaine. I knew a Hollywood-Insider who told me that Shirley seemed to be lost in deep-thought when not on stage. Once -- while inside a major television-studio -- as I watched a rehearsal -- I noticed one particular individual who sat motionless and transfixed in front of the stage -- watching intently and silently -- with total-concentration. That made a deep impression on me. I honestly aspire to be that sort of person (regarding life, the universe, and everything). BTW -- I recently encountered an Individual of Interest who seemed to NOT like me one little bit -- and I think I might know why...

"The mind…  can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven" ― John Milton

Some of us seem to be "Making Heaven Into Hell" while others of us seem to be "Making Hell Into Heaven". What if CERN will somehow merge Heaven and Hell into some sort of an Eschatological Final-Jihad?? The Horror. I equate "Mind" with "Character" -- which we apparently take with us when we die. Who says "You Can't Take It With You"??

"Oxy -- You Need to Learn Your Place in the Great Scheme of Things..."

B.B.Baghor wrote: ortho, I hear you clearly, though this may be of not much help, for to me, you seem a bit far out... of hearing distance. It's hard to follow you, but you make yourself heard alright! It seems your mind is so much in turmoil, that it's hard for you to discern your own voice, not the one shouting here. If I may say this, we all long for this....... being heard. For crying out loud!!! It's our birthright, to be valued through our lives. In the first seconds of our life, we make ourselves heard, we cannot do otherwise. For what it's worth to you, ortho, for truth is.... showing new faces each day, these days, or so it seems, maybe that's why what you're looking for seems to be elusive to you, I believe that we need to listen to our own voice first, from within. The one who's patiently waiting for you, me, us,  to shut up and listen. For a change.

magamud wrote:Ya thats some living, thanks....

Aquaries1111 wrote:Hi Oxy,

I want you to know I am still reading you.. I am only on page 2 though of your beautiful path thread. I almost wish I had started the path the same time you did, I wouldn't feel so left behind then.. Okay I'll stop whinging.. I know, I know, we are multi-dimensional and what existed then also exists now.. so now is where I am to read.. so bee it..

Your Bill Cooper link has sent me on a Bill Cooper download overload.. I need to get back to study and get back to page 2.. There's so much information I almost need to just close myself off and focus on your precious thread. I do know it's precious..

magamud wrote: