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Carol wrote:

5-Meter Tall Human Skeleton Unearthed in Australia
http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/5-meter-tall-human-skeleton-unearthed-in-australia/

Alice Springs | What could be the largest human skeleton ever discovered has been unearthed by a team of archeologists from the University of Adelaide at the Uluru archeological site near Ayers rock in Uluru-Kata Tjuta National Park, reports the Adelaide Herald this morning. The gigantic hominid specimen that measures an incredible 5.3 meter tall (17 foot and 4 inches) was discovered near the ancient ruins of the only megalithic civilization ever discovered in Australia, which makes the discovery twice as puzzling admits professor Hans Zimmer of the University of Adelaide.

orthodoxymoron wrote:Genesis 6:1  Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them,   2  that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose.   3  And the Lord said, "My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, for he is indeed flesh; yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years." 4  There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.   5  Then the Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. 6  And the Lord was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart.   7  So the Lord said, "I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth, both man and beast, creeping thing and birds of the air, for I am sorry that I have made them."   8  But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord.   9  This is the genealogy of Noah. Noah was a just man, perfect in his generations. Noah walked with God.   10  And Noah begot three sons: Shem, Ham, and Japheth.   11  The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence.   12  So God looked upon the earth, and indeed it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted their way on the earth.   13  And God said to Noah, "The end of all flesh has come before Me, for the earth is filled with violence through them; and behold, I will destroy them with the earth.   14  "Make yourself an ark of gopherwood; make rooms in the ark, and cover it inside and outside with pitch.   15  And this is how you shall make it: The length of the ark shall be three hundred cubits, its width fifty cubits, and its height thirty cubits.   16  You shall make a window for the ark, and you shall finish it to a cubit from above; and set the door of the ark in its side. You shall make it with lower, second, and third decks.   17  And behold, I Myself am bringing floodwaters on the earth, to destroy from under heaven all flesh in which is the breath of life; everything that is on the earth shall die.   18  But I will establish My covenant with you; and you shall go into the ark--you, your sons, your wife, and your sons' wives with you.   19  And of every living thing of all flesh you shall bring two of every sort into the ark, to keep them alive with you; they shall be male and female.   20  Of the birds after their kind, of animals after their kind, and of every creeping thing of the earth after its kind, two of every kind will come to you to keep them alive.   21  And you shall take for yourself of all food that is eaten, and you shall gather it to yourself; and it shall be food for you and for them."   22  Thus Noah did; according to all that God commanded him, so he did.

Genesis 6 seems to say that hybridization caused the Giant-Humans -- but what if the Original-Humans were Giant-Humans with nearly 1,000 year lifespans?? What if hybridization resulted in Small-Humans and Short-Lifespans?? I continue to think that the historical-records (including the Bible) have been messed-with -- but I'm short on evidence and expertise. I just wonder as I wander in and out of sanity. I've also been wondering if somehow Lucifer and Michael are the same Archangel -- but that neither should be equated with the Stereotypical-Satan?? I've subsequently wondered if Archangel Gabriel has been running Earth since the Garden of Eden (six to ten thousand years ago)?? All of the above is pseudo-academic -- and it's not personal. It's just puzzling. It's like history is a mixture of truth and lies -- with hidden-motivations for keeping a hell of a lot of deep and dark historical-secrets. I need to stop. I really do. This madness is destroying me -- and for what??

Male and Female Human-Beings were living on Earth prior to the Sons of God mating with the Female Human-Beings. Were these original Male and Female Human-Beings problematic (especially as far as God was concerned)?? Giants existed on Earth prior to the Sons of God mating with the Female Human-Beings. Was the great wickedness of "Mankind" caused by the Sons of God mating with the Female Human-Beings -- or was this a pre-existing condition?? Were the Sons of God problematic before they mated with the Female Human-Beings?? Were the Sons of God Human-Beings?? If so -- what kind of Human-Beings?? If not -- what sort of beings were they?? Did the Sons of God rape the Female Human-Beings?? Did the Sons of God kill the Male Human-Beings who might've attempted to stop them from mating with their women?? Did the Sons of God ONLY mate with Virgin Human-Beings?? Did the Female Human-Beings freely agree to having sex with the Sons of God?? Who ruled Earth prior to the Sons of God mating with the Female Human-Beings?? Were there Daughters of God who the Sons of God might've alternatively mated with?? Were the Sons of God Hermaphrodites?? Were the Female Human-Beings Hermaphrodites?? Were the Giants Hermaphrodites?? Were the Female Human-Beings Giants?? Were the Male Human-Beings Giants?? Were the Sons of God Giants?? What was the lifespan of the Sons of God?? What was the Lifespan of the Female Human-Beings?? Who ruled Earth after the Sons of God mated with the Female Human-Beings?? If there was a New-Ruler of Earth after the Sons of God mated with the Female Human-Beings -- was the Original-Ruler of Earth murdered?? What was God doing while the Sons of God were mating with the Female Human-Beings?? Was the Creator of the Original Earth Human-Beings sorry that He made them (especially prior to the Sons of God mating with the Female Human-Beings)?? Was the Creator of the Original Earth Human-Beings upset that the Sons of God were mating with the Female Human-Beings?? Did the Creator of the Original Earth Human-Beings wish to destroy the Human-Beings who existed prior to the Sons of God mating with the Female Human-Beings?? Did the Creator of the Original Earth Human-Beings wish to destroy the Sons of God who mated with the Female Human-Beings (and the Hybrid Offspring)??

Which Archangel (if any) might've ruled Earth prior to the Sons of God mating with the Female Human-Beings?? Which Archangel (if any) might've ruled Earth after the Sons of God mated with the Female Human-Beings?? How might Gabriel, Michael, and Lucifer fit into all of the above?? Gabriel supposedly replaced Lucifer. Michael was supposedly Jesus. Michael-Jesus was supposedly the Creator (or Creator-Assistant) in the Creation of the Human-Being. How might the terms "Christ" and "Antichrist" fit into all of the above?? Who REALLY led the Sons of God to mate with the Female Human-Beings?? What if they were Angry and Jealous of the Original Earth Human-Beings -- and the Creator of the Original Earth Human-Beings?? Did the Creator of the Original Earth Human-Beings institute the Seventh-Day Sabbath (as a weekly observance) -- especially prior to the Sons of God mating with the Female Human-Beings?? Were the Original Earth Human-Beings "Fallen and Sinful" prior to the Sons of God mating with the Female Human-Beings?? Were the Sons of God "Fallen and Sinful" prior to mating with the Female Human-Beings?? Were the Sons of God and the Female Human-Beings "Fallen and Sinful" subsequent to mating?? Were their offspring "Fallen and Sinful"?? Was the Original-Sin the Creation of the Original Earth Human-Beings?? Was the Original-Sin the Sons of God mating with the Female Human-Beings?? I've heard that the Reptilians beneath the Gobi Desert have video of All of the Above!!! What if the "Lamb Slain from the Foundation of the World" was the Creator of the Original Human-Beings?? What if they were "Christ"?? What if their replacement were "Antichrist"?? What if Antichrist has ruled Earth for at least the past Five or Six Thousand Years?? What if the Biblical-Story is a Cover-Story?? If so -- where might we find the "Rest of the Story"?? What if the Souls incarnating the Original Earth-Humans left Earth shortly after the Sons of God mated with the Female Human-Beings?? What if most (or all) of the Souls presently in this Solar System are the Souls of the Sons of God who mated with the Female Human-Beings?? If this is the case -- have the past 6,000 years simply been a "Learning Experience for All Concerned" combined with "Universal-Salvation"?? OR is salvation NOT Possible (regardless of character and/or the substitutionary-atonement)?? What if the Creator of the Original Earth-Humanity has unexpectedly reappeared during this present generation?? What if the Creator of the Original Earth-Humanity is Jupiter Jones?? Who and/or what is referred to in the music "Lucis Creator"?? I could say a hell of a lot more -- but I'd rather not. Not Now.

Raven wrote:

Gospel of Thomas

(105) Jesus said, "He who knows the father and the mother will be called the son of a harlot."

(106) Jesus said, "When you make the two one, you will become the sons of man,
and when you say, 'Mountain, move away,' it will move away."




Bes the Ithyphallic Protector of Childbirth and Motherhood

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[9:02:43 AM] Sirius 17: I am just now watching this video on Egyptian sexuality, very interesting they have hidden all this erotica from the public
[9:06:27 AM] Sirius 17: I am extremely horny
[9:15:46 AM] Sirius 17: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bes
[9:15:59 AM] Sirius 17: Fortune, fertility, the arts and dwarfs
[9:16:14 AM] Sirius 17:

Modern scholars such as James Romano claim that in its earliest inceptions, Bes was a representation of a lion rearing up on its hind legs.[1] After the Third Intermediate Period, Bes is often seen as just the head or the face, often worn as amulets.
Mages of the deity were kept in homes and he was depicted quite differently from the other gods. Normally Egyptian gods were shown in profile, but instead Bes appeared in portrait, ithyphallic, and sometimes in a soldier's tunic, so as to appear ready to launch an attack on any approaching evil. He scared away demons from houses, so his statue was put up as a protector.

[9:23:15 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t6780p150-the-legacy-of-thuban-omni-science-de-alpha-draconis-omega#114053
[9:23:19 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: You saw this yet?
[9:23:33 AM] Sirius 17: yeah I was reading through it part way then I remembered I needed to watch this video
[9:23:43 AM] Sirius 17: the discussion with BB
[9:23:47 AM] Sirius 17: and Oxy
[10:32:59 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t7791p30-questioning-the-holocaust#114060
[9:24:13 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I added to it
[9:24:55 AM] Sirius 17: was there anything in particular you wanted me to look at?
[9:25:01 AM] Sirius 17: in the post?
[9:25:12 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: No the whole thing is rather appropriate
[9:26:06 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah:

The editorial 'censor shippers' of Wikipedia and media presenters notwithstanding; the previous videos and the following descriptors might validate the understanding and wisdom of your Lilithian starry heart B.B. Baghor.

And should you have taken these words to your thinking heart in harmony with your feeling mind; then you can perhaps discern the meaning of the 'strange adaptations' from the 'Sapphire Tablet of Moses' aka the 'Emerald Tablet of Thoth', also associated with the ancient global Egyptian heritages in the label of Hermes Trismegistos.

Could you imagine a 'New World' wherein all so called 'deadly sins' and 'vices' of the 'Old World' are removed into just one of those, you might call 'lust sexual for equalitarian lust sexual' as universal and cosmically shared and mutual desire to merge and blend morphed bodyforms in environmental harmony and stimulus; just as the Bonobos do quite naturally?

Would then not the behaviour patterns of avarice and gluttony, violence and hatred anger and the cravings for esteem and other such human 'vanities' and 'lust for power' in substitutes like Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles or 'IBMs' and 'nukes' and other 'toys of warfare' lose their potency as proxy for the phallic fertility and the yonic receptivity?

The composers of the ancient scrolls of antiquity are aware of this and have included this part of the 'Perennial Philosophy' within their texts and pages. Many know this axiom in a variety of names such as: "Do unto others, as you wish to be done unto yourself!"
Perhaps you can now 'make sense of this admonishment found in the Apocalypse of John de Zebedee as the end of all encodings in the 'New Testament' of the ET-Logistics and dispensation.

As has been said and advised by the Council in earlier times; "Old Human Eat your Dragon!"
This is necessity because as a resident in the Body of the Universe, you find yourself within the belly of Jonah's Whale, (yes now you know who or what this Jonah is), which has become transformed into the Body of the Lion of the Resurrection in the Assumption of the Cosmic Mother.
Ask yourself why there is a 'birth in heaven' of a baby boy and not a simple return journey of a 'ascended' man who had visited the earth and your answer will show you why the 'Assumption of the Mother' is required by the heavens to allow such a birth to occur.

You might also ask yourself how it can be that ALL the earth dwellers are deceived by this 'Red Dragon Devil' as the 'whole world' and not just the relative 'bad people' in relative opinionated judgement of the 'good people' or believers, unbelievers, infidels, heathen, goyim or labels of like classifications. If this is so; who then can discern the truth of the universe without suffering and experiencing self-deception from the 'deceiver'?

It has been said that the Lion is knocking on everyone's door to gain entry into everyone’s mind and heart from the within.
Only once the Lion has gained acceptance and entry thereto, can your own door be opened towards the without.
Only then can you leave the egg as your own cosmic womb from the within to enter the 'Kingdom of the New World of the FatherMother CreatorCreation' without.

Then both you and the Lion are able to leave the quarantine zone of the cosmic egg.

[9:28:55 AM] Sirius 17: yes I see lol nice pics of the serpents
[9:29:10 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I superposed the third serpent
[9:29:11 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: from above
[9:29:13 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: The one we want
[9:29:18 AM] Sirius 17: yes well I felt the cosmic kunda all day yesterday
[9:29:19 AM] Sirius 17: i feel it
[9:29:20 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Suppressed energies
[9:29:21 AM] Sirius 17: yes i actually thought this in reading bb and oxy
[9:29:22 AM] Sirius 17: i can sense it there
[9:29:26 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: See we are saying it its ok to have sex
[9:29:27 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: oxy is a false humility paradox
[9:29:28 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: and sexstarved
[9:30:01 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: He should fuc11 sherry shriner, the daughter of david
[9:30:04 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: or you lol
[9:30:06 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Setting him straight
[9:30:08 AM] Sirius 17: oh i would love to fuc11 Oxy
[9:30:10 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: he would get a clearer head
[9:30:25 AM] Sirius 17: I am still horny as hell, I wanted to ‘take things into my own hands’ but refrained until 47 and I can consummate properly
[9:31:01 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: It was the closest yet to the rave of November 2013
[9:31:06 AM] Sirius 17: but boy I wanted to omg I could barely contain it
[9:31:20 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: yes, so we connected
[9:31:29 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I knew about 10 am I could not sleep
[9:31:51 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I really thought you were with 47 and so it can only get better lol
[9:31:56 AM] Sirius 17: I woke up early yesterday too, the ravens woke me and from then on I was on fire
[9:32:11 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: It’s the 1st day of the new world actually
[9:32:14 AM] Sirius 17: yes it is the waves anticipating it
[9:32:17 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: well 2nd here

Isis, in the form of a bird, copulates with the deceased Osiris. At either side are Horus, although he is as yet unborn, and Isis in human form.

TRANCOSO wrote:

The 'Deutsche Verteidigungs Dienst' (German Defense Service)
By Michael Shrimpton
June 5, 2012

This is a hot intel topic and one which has provoked a certain amount of debate within the Intelligence Community (INTELCOM). That is partly because much of the material, including SATINT of the agency’s HQ in Dachau Germany (about a klick from the old concentration camp, a former DVD facility) has been classified at too high a level in this author’s humble opinion. As Gordon Duff can confirm this author is very humble … not.

DVD stands for Deutsches Verteidigungs Dienst, or German Defense Service. It was set up by German spymaster Admiral Wilhelm Canaris in 1943/4, after he appreciated that Germany was going to lose the war. He and his deputy, General Leutnant Erwin von Lahousen, a serious Kraut, were determined that Germany would win the peace, which to date she has done. They started moving files, gold, officers & other stuff down to Dachau from Berlin as early as the fall of 1943. Nazis were not invited. The DVD are not & never have been Nazi - these were the boys who installed the Nazis & they were a lot smarter. Your average Nazi was pretty dumb, no smarter than your average Democrat.

The DVD arranged to extend the war for 6 months, by pushing Operation Market Garden, the abortive attempt to cross the Rhine & outflank the Krauts. They used assets in the British Army to hold up the advance of XXX Corps on Arnhem & assets in the Air Ministry to suppress photo-intel of the SS Panzer Division they moved in to the Arnhem area & our guys were ambushed. The extra time was needed to move gold, cash & folk out of Germany into Argentina & elsewhere, using a covert fleet of modified Type XXI U-Boats, used for cargo work - never put through the books of the Kriegsmarine. Three at least of that fleet are still in business, 67 years later, refitted with Air Independent Propulsion and new diesels. If that sounds old remember the Big E – great ship – is still going strong more than 50 years after she was commissioned, indeed her proposed decommissioning is premature.

Canaris faked his death in ’45 – he has two graves. As I reveal in my forthcoming history of the DVD, Spyhunter, there is even a post-war photo of Canaris, in the biography by one of his more loyal lieutenants, one Colonel Whiting, of the OSS and DVD, allegedly taken in 1944 (t wasn’t). His head of air intelligence was General Major Adolfo Galland, who has two interesting gaps in his resume, covering the Korean War and the Vietnam War. The ‘Chinese’ Mig-15s in Korea (a German design by the way) never flew over South Korea and always returned north of the Yalu because most of their pilots were German.

Dolfo repeated the same trick in Vietnam. You won’t find many genuine North Vietnamese air aces signing prints of their Mig-21s – most of the Mig 21 pilots over ‘Nam were Luftwaffe, ie West German, with some East Germans as well. There was no Cold War split in German intelligence – the DVD ran both the West German BND (Gehlen was DVD) and the Stasi, their key man in East Berlin being the author’s old ‘friend’ (strictly an enemy, but the old boy and he got on well) General Oberst Markus Wolf.

CONTINUE: http://theunhivedmind.com/wordpress/the-german-deutsche-verteidigungs-dienst/

Christopher Story - Jesuit/Vatican EU Criminal Corruption & Deutsche Verteidigungs Dienst


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytnINw6kqoE

Deutsches Verteidigungs Dienst (DVD), Mossad & David Cameron

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xj5LbKMR1gg

Half of the verses (54 of 107) in the Holy Bible which refer to Lucifer, Satan, and Devil are found in
the Four Gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John). I find this highly significant. Think about it...

LUCIFER occurs 1 time in 1 verse in the KJV.

Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! [how] art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

SATAN occurs 56 times in 49 verses in the KJV.

1Ch 21:1 And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.

Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.
Job 1:7 And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
Job 1:8 And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that [there is] none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?
Job 1:9 Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought?
Job 1:12 And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath [is] in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD.
Job 2:1 Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the LORD.
Job 2:2 And the LORD said unto Satan, From whence comest thou? And Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
Job 2:3 And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that [there is] none like him in the earth, a perfect  and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil? and still he holdeth fast his integrity, although thou movedst me against him, to destroy him without cause.
Job 2:4 And Satan answered the LORD, and said, Skin for skin, yea, all that a man hath will he give for his life.
Job 2:6 And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, he [is] in thine hand; but save his life.
Job 2:7 So went Satan forth from the presence of the LORD, and smote Job with sore boils from the sole of his foot unto his crown.

Psa 109:6 Set thou a wicked man over him: and let Satan stand at his right hand.

Zec 3:1 And he shewed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the LORD, and Satan standing at his right hand to resist him.
Zec 3:2 And the LORD said unto Satan, The LORD rebuke thee, O Satan; even the LORD that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: [is] not this a brand plucked out of the fire?

Mat 4:10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only  shalt thou serve.

Mat 12:26 And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?

Mat 16:23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

Mar 1:13 And he was there in the wilderness forty days, tempted of Satan; and was with the wild beasts; and the angels ministered  unto him.

Mar 3:23 And he called them [unto him], and said unto them in parables, How can Satan cast out Satan?
Mar 3:26 And if Satan rise up against himself, and be divided, he cannot stand, but hath an end.

Mar 4:15 And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown; but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and  taketh away the word that was sown in their hearts.

Mar 8:33 But when he had turned about and looked on his disciples, he rebuked Peter, saying, Get thee behind me, Satan: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but the things that be of men.

Luk 4:8 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

Luk 10:18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

Luk 11:18 If Satan also be divided against himself, how shall his kingdom stand? because ye say that I cast out devils  through Beelzebub.

Luk 13:16 And ought not this woman, being a daughter of Abraham, whom Satan hath bound, lo, these eighteen years, be loosed from  this bond on the sabbath day?

Luk 22:3 Then entered Satan into Judas surnamed Iscariot, being of the number of the twelve.

Luk 22:31 And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired [to have] you, that he may sift [you] as wheat:

Jhn 13:27 And after the sop Satan entered into him. Then said Jesus unto him, That thou doest, do quickly.

Act 5:3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back [part] of the price  of the land?

Act 26:18 To open their eyes, [and] to turn [them] from darkness to light, and [from] the power of Satan unto God by faith that is in me.

Rom 16:20 And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ [be] with you. Amen.

1Cr 5:5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord  Jesus.

1Cr 7:5 Defraud ye not one the other, except [it be] with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.

2Cr 2:11 Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.

2Cr 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

2Cr 12:7 And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.

1Th 2:18 Wherefore we would have come unto you, even I Paul, once and again; but Satan hindered us.

2Th 2:9 [Even him], whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

1Ti 1:20 Of whom is Hymenaeus and Alexander; whom I have delivered unto Satan, that they may learn not to blaspheme.

1Ti 5:15 For some are already turned aside after Satan.

Rev 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and the blasphemy of them which say they are  Jews, and are not, but [are] the synagogue of Satan.
Rev 2:13 I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, [even] where Satan's seat [is]: and thou holdest fast my [was] my faithful  martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth.
Rev 2:24 But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.

Rev 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make  them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Rev 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
Rev 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

DEVIL occurs 61 times in 57 verses in the KJV.

Mat 4:1 Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.
Mat 4:5 Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple,
Mat 4:8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;
Mat 4:11 Then the devil leaveth him, and, behold, angels came and ministered unto him.

Mat 9:32 As they went out, behold, they brought to him a dumb man possessed with a devil.
Mat 9:33 And when the devil was cast out, the dumb spake: and the multitudes marvelled, saying, It was never so seen in Israel.

Mat 11:18 For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, He hath a devil.

Mat 12:22 Then was brought unto him one possessed with a devil, blind, and dumb: and he healed him, insomuch that the blind and  dumb both spake and saw.

Mat 13:39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.

Mat 15:22 And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, [thou] Son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.

Mat 17:18 And Jesus rebuked the devil; and he departed out of him: and the child was cured from that very hour.

Mat 25:41 Then  shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

Mar 5:15 And they come to Jesus, and see him that was possessed with the devil, and had the legion, sitting, and clothed, and in his right mind: and they were afraid.
Mar 5:16 And they that saw [it] told them how it befell to him that was possessed with the devil, and [also] concerning the swine.
Mar 5:18 And when he was come into the ship, he that had been possessed with the devil prayed him that he might be with him.

Mar 7:26 The woman was a Greek, a Syrophenician by nation; and she besought him that he would cast forth the devil out of her  daughter.
Mar 7:29 And he said unto her, For this saying go thy way; the devil is gone out of thy daughter.
Mar 7:30 And when she was come to her house, she found the devil gone out, and her daughter laid upon the bed.

Luk 4:2 Being forty days tempted of the devil. And in those days he did eat nothing: and when they were ended, he afterward  hungered.
Luk 4:3 And the devil said unto him, If thou be the Son of God, command this stone that it be made bread.
Luk 4:5 And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.
Luk 4:6 And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and  to whomsoever I will I give it.
Luk 4:13 And when the devil had ended all the temptation, he departed from him for a season.

Luk 4:33 And in the synagogue there was a man, which had a spirit of an unclean devil, and cried out with a loud voice,
Luk 4:35 And Jesus rebuked him, saying, Hold thy peace, and come out of him. And when the devil had thrown him in the midst, he came out of him, and hurt him not.

Luk 7:33 For John the Baptist came neither eating bread nor drinking wine; and ye say, He hath a devil.

Luk 8:12 Those by the way side are they that hear; then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved.

Luk 8:29 (For he had commanded the unclean spirit to come out of the man. For oftentimes it had caught him: and he was kept bound  with chains and in fetters; and he brake the bands, and was driven of the devil into the wilderness.)

Luk 9:42 And as he was yet a coming, the devil threw him down, and tare [him]. And Jesus rebuked the unclean spirit, and healed  the child, and delivered him again to his father.

Luk 11:14 And he was casting out a devil, and it was dumb. And it came to pass, when the devil was gone out, the dumb spake; and  the people wondered.

Jhn 6:70 Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?

Jhn 7:20 The people answered and said, Thou hast a devil: who goeth about to kill thee?

Jhn 8:44 Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning , and  abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and  the father of it.
Jhn 8:48 Then answered the Jews, and said unto him, Say we not well that thou art a Samaritan, and hast a devil?
Jhn 8:49 Jesus answered, I have not a devil; but I honour my Father, and ye do dishonour me.
Jhn 8:52 Then said the Jews unto him, Now we know that thou hast a devil. Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and thou sayest, If  a man keep my saying, he shall never taste of death.

Jhn 10:20 And many of them said, He hath a devil, and is mad; why hear ye him?
Jhn 10:21 Others said, These are not the words of him that hath a devil. Can a devil open the eyes of the blind?

Jhn 13:2 And supper being ended, the devil having now put into the heart of Judas Iscariot, Simon's [son], to betray him;

Act 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

Act 13:10 And said, full of all subtilty and all mischief, [thou] child of the devil, [thou] enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?

Eph 4:27 Neither give place to the devil.

Eph 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

1Ti 3:6 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.
1Ti 3:7 Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.

2Ti 2:26 And [that] they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.

Hbr 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that  through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

Jam 4:7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

1Pe 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

1Jo 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
1Jo 3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

Jud 1:9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

Rev 2:10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast [some] of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.

Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Rev 12:12 Therefore rejoice, [ye] heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

Rev 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet  [are], and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

As I just mentioned, the Bible doesn't reveal a helluva lot about Lucifer, Satan, or the Devil.

 The Nine Bibles

Genesis through Deuteronomy.
Joshua through Esther.
Job through Song of Songs.
Isaiah through Daniel.
Hosea through Malachi.
Matthew through Acts.
Romans through Philemon.
Hebrews through Jude.
The Book of Revelation.



The Church of Common Prayer

Patriarchs and Prophets (EGW).
Prophets and Kings (EGW).
The Desire of Ages (EGW).
The Acts of the Apostles (EGW).
The 1928 Book of Common Prayer.
The 1982 Episcopal Hymnal.
Sacred Classical Music.

B.B.Baghor wrote:

Seashore wrote:I find reading posts on The Mists of Avalon to be very confusing most of the time. What I am talking about is the fact that most members copy and paste outside sources.  This means that their posts look as if the member is speaking when the member is not - it is simply a copy and paste. Then, somewhere in the thread, the member may actually make a comment in their own words about the outside material posted, but there is no way to know this except by context, which is actually a time-consuming guessing game. It is for this reason that when I post outside sources, I use the quote tags to flag the fact that it's not me talking.  I also put the link inside the quote tags.  If we had tags designed specifically for outside sources, I would use them, but we don't so I use the quote tags, despite the fact that they're for member quotes, not outside quotes.  To me, it's better than simply copying and pasting with no quote box at all. Am I the only member who cares about this?

I see what you mean, Seashore and I care as much as possible to make clear what my words are and words of others, in my posts. I'm referring to the source by presenting the name of the writer, before a text is presented and I put that text between "......" these. Not with my own words. I also present the source in a link at the end of my post. I think your post is a great reminder of the value to be clear and accurate, in our presentation of content and source here. So far I haven't found much difficulty discerning member's own words and copied texts in their posts. For me, it's sometimes hard to grasp the meaning, when my mind is far removed from the mind of the one who shares a post here and in that way can't find resonance. Or when I feel I can't relate to its content.

orthodoxymoron wrote:How do we know who REALLY wrote ANYTHING???!!! How do we know if what they wrote was the Truth -- or Utter-Bullshit?? Who REALLY wrote the Bible?? I received an unsolicited message in my word-processor several years ago, claiming that I wrote 37 books 2,000 years ago -- 5 of which were included in the Bible -- with the rest hidden-away in the Vatican -- so the Bad-Boys could Rule the World!! I'm NOT kidding!! I have NO Idea if even a sliver of that message was somehow true!! I highly doubt it -- but one never knows!! Who REALLY writes President Obama's speeches?? Who REALLY writes the Pope's homilies?? Remember what Serendipity said in the movie Dogma regarding who wrote the Bible -- and who wrote the scripts for 19 of the Top 20 movies of all-time?? Who REALLY wrote the writings of Ellen Gould White?? How do we REALLY know ANYTHING for certain?? How do you know if I REALLY created MY Threads?? Someone could've fed me everything I've posted (in Parking-Garages at 3AM)!!! If you knew how dense I am in "real-life" that suggestion wouldn't seem too farfetched!! That's all I'm going to say...

"That S.O.B. Will NEVER Spank Me Again!!"

shiloh wrote:

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5-Meter Tall Human Skeleton Unearthed in Australia

July 28th, 2015 | by Bob Flanagan


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Alice Springs | What could be the largest human skeleton ever discovered has been unearthed by a team of archeologists from the University of Adelaide at the Uluru archeological site near Ayers rock in Uluru-Kata Tjuta National Park, reports the Adelaide Herald this morning. The gigantic hominid specimen that measures an incredible 5.3 meter tall (17 foot and 4 inches) was discovered near the ancient ruins of the only megalithic civilization ever discovered in Australia, which makes the discovery twice as puzzling admits professor Hans Zimmer of the University of Adelaide. “The discovery of the Uluru archeological site last year already took us by surprise, but this new find is just jaw dropping” he admits, visibly dumbfounded. “Theoretically, a five meter-tall hominid cannot exist. How did this occur? How is this possible. Although this discovery is fascinating, we are left with more questions than answers” he concedes.

The discovery of a 5-meter tall human skeleton near Ayers rock is the largest skeleton ever found and leaves scientists with “more questions than answers” concedes Hans Zimmer, professor of Archeology at the University of Adelaide. Some experts have hypothesized that the specimen might have suffered from an extreme case of gigantism, a condition caused by the over-production of growth hormones, a theory professor Hans Zimmer dismisses as “pure speculation”. “Only further research can help us uncover the truth behind this anomaly of nature. Until we have found more skeletal remains, we should not rush ourselves into hazardous explanations” he told local reporters. “We have found several incomplete skeletons, of which the bones were also of gigantic size. It seems a major catastrophe has completely washed away all traces of this lost and unknown civilization” he notes. “This specimen is apparently not unique, it is but a question of time before we find a similar specimen” he firmly believes. The Uluru archeological site, unearthed in 2014 by a team of researchers from the Australian National University, led to the discovery of a previously unknown megalithic civilization that could help solve the mystery of the estranged discovery. “We have unearthed last February a megalithic block that is estimated to weight an approximate 80 tons. The basalt qualities of the monolith are found only 200 km away. How did they move this huge block hundreds of kilometers into the desert, what technologies did this civilization use? We cannot properly answer these questions at the present moment” admits John Thomas Buckler, head archeologist during the 2014 excavation.

Some specialists believe a major catastrophe is the cause of the destruction of the Uluru civilization, turning the whole region from a rich fertile land into a sterile desert at the time. “Ferrous deposits are found all over the Australian desert, which possibly proves some sort of meteorite impact in the region” explains Sydney-based researcher, Allan DeGroot. “The analysis of geological deposits confirm a large impact in the region between 3,500 and 2,500 years ago” admits the leading expert. “The catastrophic destruction revealed by traces of vitrification and high levels of radiation at the ruins of the Uluru archeological site clearly lead us to believe both events are intimately linked together” he concludes. The radioactive qualities of the skeleton remains have made the scientists work extremely complicated, but Hans Zimmer’s team hopes international cooperation with other major universities could help solve the enigma of the giant remains much sooner by giving the team access to technologies that are not available in Australia for the moment.

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According to a report that is circulating rapidly via social media, archeologists have unearthed the largest human skeleton ever discovered. Supposedly, the skeleton was found near Uluru in central Australia and was 5.3 meters long. The report also claims that an ancient 'megalithic civilisation' has been discovered at the site. The report features images depicting the giant skeleton along with the ancient ruins of a 'megalithic civilisation'. Some commentators have suggested that the find supports bible stories about giant humans. But, not surprisingly, the story is utter nonsense. No such discovery has been made at Uluru or anywhere else. The skeleton depicted in the report's images is actually that of a mammoth found near Paris several years ago. The bogus report comes via the fake-news website World News Daily Report (WNDR), which is notorious for churning out fanciful nonsense disguised as news. Nothing published on the site should be taken seriously. The site includes the following disclaimer buried under its 'About' menu:

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And, the false report is just a revamped version of an earlier - and equally nonsensical - WNDR story that claimed that giant human skeletons had been found at a site in western Iran. The older version used a photoshopped image of a giant skeleton to support its spurious claims.  Moreover, the image supposedly depicting ancient ruins was featured in yet another WNDR fake-news report that claimed that an ancient city had been discovered in the Australian desert. The image actually shows the foundations of ancient pyramids discovered at Sedeinga in northern Sudan. WNDR is just one of a growing number of fake-news websites that produce a constant stream of false stories that circulate via social media, email, and blog posts. It is wise to verify, any strange or unusual stories that come your way before you share them online. Searching via a news portal such as Google News will usually reveal if a circulating story is true.

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Alice Springs | What could be the largest human skeleton ever discovered has been unearthed by a team of archeologists from the University of Adelaide at the Uluru archeological site near Ayers rock in Uluru-Kata Tjuta National Park, reports the Adelaide Herald this morning.

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Pris wrote:.
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Man, don't you just hate this kind of bull shite misinformation happening all over the place? Whomever is doing it seems to be doing it to disillusion us.  Sorry, not working, but it's annoying as heck.

Carol wrote:Sorry Pris but I personally knew someone who knew off-worlders giants who lived in Italy and were in contact over 50 years. Mass Contacts by Stefano Breccia is excellent and I had the opportunity to have several conversations with him while he was here presenting at a conference in Kona. He also wrote 50 Years of Amicizia (Friendship) Jul 18, 2013.

http://www.amazon.com/Mass-Contacts-Stefano-Breccia/dp/1438906781/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1443073745&sr=1-1&keywords=mass+contacts

http://www.amazon.com/Years-Amicizia-Friendship-Stefano-Breccia/dp/148270983X/ref=pd_bxgy_14_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=0Q06W054Y044C9X738PS

The "Friendship" case is the world's longest-running case of alien contact and involves more people than any other. It continues today throughout the world. These are completely physical contacts with the people of other worlds, not mystical channelings and speculations. These facts make "Amicizia" a unique Rosetta Stone for understanding the UFO phenomenon and humanity's place in the Cosmos. This is the second book by Stefano Breccia, an Italian engineer and university professor who was intimately involved in the Amicizia contacts. In 2009, his book "Mass Contacts" first introduced the Amicizia experiences to a worldwide audience. Its contents were a revelation even to most Ufologists. Before he died unexpectedly in early 2012 Breccia completed this book, "50 Years of Amicizia (Friendship)." Building on the first book, most of it is information never published before. A glance at some of its surprises make it clear that this is not just another UFO book: * The most detailed, complete, technical description of a saucer propulsion system ever published. * Analysis of the clear colour photograph of an 8 foot tall alien crew member. * The transcript of a crew conversation of an Akrij saucer, including a landing and emergency take-off when it came under fire. * Breccia's description and data from his own flight in a "flying saucer." * Photographs of the interior of an alien craft. With an introduction by Dr Roberto Pinotti and contributions from Teresa Barbatelli, Paolo di Girolamo, Connie Menger, Carlo Bolla and others, the book is destined to become a classic. This is Breccia's final witness to the reality that we have friends among us who are ready to help us move forward and join them in the greater community of our galaxy.

You may be interested in this thread. http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t109-w56-ctr-clones-contactee-stefano-breccia-passed-3-1-12?highlight=Stefano+Breccia

Here's a 5 part documentary about him - VERY good!

http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3439-the-friendship-case#59301

orthodoxymoron wrote:

I'm Open to nearly All-Sources BUT I do NOT Trust ANY Sources. Period.

B.B.Baghor wrote: "But terrorism is now squarely in the eye of the beholder." and how agendas are played out on a battleground with mazes in vast terrains, invisible to most people and many parties clanging and banging in their own little faction and facet, fighting "the enemy" which is growing more insubstantial to the eyes but far more dangerous due to that. Distrust spawning distrust. .

West 'ignored' Russian offer in 2012 to have Syria's Assad step aside

Russia proposed more than three years ago that Syria’s president, Bashar al-Assad, could step down as part of a peace deal, according to a senior negotiator involved in back-channel discussions at the time. Former Finnish president and Nobel peace prize laureate Martti Ahtisaari said western powers failed to seize on the proposal. Since it was made, in 2012, tens of thousands of people have been killed and millions uprooted, causing the world’s gravest refugee crisis since the second world war.

Martti Ahtisaari said the failure to consider the Russian offer had led to a ‘self-made disaster’. Ahtisaari held talks with envoys from the five permanent members of the UN security council in February 2012. He said that during those discussions, the Russian ambassador, Vitaly Churkin, laid out a three-point plan, which included a proposal for Assad to cede power at some point after peace talks had started between the regime and the opposition. But he said that the US, Britain and France were so convinced that the Syrian dictator was about to fall, they ignored the proposal. Russia sends artillery and tanks to Syria as part of continued military buildup. “It was an opportunity lost in 2012,” Ahtisaari said in an interview.

Officially, Russia has staunchly backed Assad through the four-and-half-year Syrian war, insisting that his removal cannot be part of any peace settlement. Assad has said that Russia will never abandon him. Moscow has recently begun sending troops, tanks and aircraft in an effort to stabilise the Assad regime and fight Islamic State extremists.

Ahtisaari won the Nobel prize in 2008 “for his efforts on several continents and over more than three decades, to resolve international conflicts”, including in Namibia, Aceh in Indonesia, Kosovo and Iraq. On 22 February 2012 he was sent to meet the missions of the permanent five nations (the US, Russia, UK, France and China) at UN headquarters in New York by The Elders, a group of former world leaders advocating peace and human rights that has included Nelson Mandela, Jimmy Carter, and former UN secretary general Kofi Annan.

“The most intriguing was the meeting I had with Vitaly Churkin because I know this guy,” Ahtisaari recalled. “We don’t necessarily agree on many issues but we can talk candidly. I explained what I was doing there and he said: ‘Martti, sit down and I’ll tell you what we should do.’ “He said three things: One – we should not give arms to the opposition. Two – we should get a dialogue going between the opposition and Assad straight away. Three – we should find an elegant way for Assad to step aside.” UN security council is failing Syria, Ban Ki-moon admits.

Churkin declined to comment on what he said had been a “private conversation” with Ahtisaari. The Finnish former president, however, was adamant about the nature of the discussion. “There was no question because I went back and asked him a second time,” he said, noting that Churkin had just returned from a trip to Moscow and there seemed little doubt he was raising the proposal on behalf of the Kremlin. Ahtisaari said he passed on the message to the American, British and French missions at the UN, but he said: “Nothing happened because I think all these, and many others, were convinced that Assad would be thrown out of office in a few weeks so there was no need to do anything.” While Ahtisaari was still in New York, Kofi Annan was made joint special envoy on Syria for the UN and the Arab League. Ahtisaari said: “Kofi was forced to take up the assignment as special representative. I say forced because I don’t think he was terribly keen. He saw very quickly that no one was supporting anything.”

In June 2012, Annan chaired international talks in Geneva, which agreed a peace plan by which a transitional government would be formed by “mutual consent” of the regime and opposition. However, it soon fell apart over differences on whether Assad should step down. Annan resigned as envoy a little more than a month later, and Assad’s personal fate has been the principal stumbling block to all peace initiatives since then. Last week, Britain’s foreign secretary, Philip Hammond, suggested that as part of a peace deal, Assad could remain in office during a six-month “transitional period” but the suggestion was quickly rejected by Damascus.

Western diplomats at the UN refused to speak on the record about Ahtisaari’s claim, but pointed out that after a year of the Syrian conflict, Assad’s forces had already carried out multiple massacres, and the main opposition groups refused to accept any proposal that left him in power. A few days after Ahtisaari’s visit to New York, Hillary Clinton, then US secretary of state, branded the Syrian leader a war criminal. Sir John Jenkins – a former director of the Middle East department of the UK’s Foreign Office who was preparing to take up the post of ambassador to Saudi Arabia in the first half of 2012 – said that in his experience, Russia resisted any attempt to put Assad’s fate on the negotiating table “and I never saw a reference to any possible flexing of this position”.

Jenkins, now executive director of the Middle East branch of the International Institute for Strategic Studies, said in an email: “I think it is true that the general feeling was Assad wouldn’t be able to hold out. But I don’t see why that should have led to a decision to ignore an offer by the Russians to get him to go quickly, as long as that was a genuine offer. “The weakest point is Ahtisaari’s claim that Churkin was speaking with Moscow’s authority. I think if he had told me what Churkin had said, I would have replied I wanted to hear it from [President Vladimir] Putin too, before I could take it seriously. And even then I’d have wanted to be sure it wasn’t a Putin trick to draw us in to a process that ultimately preserved Assad’s state under a different leader but with the same outcome.” Pushed back into the fire: the refugees who feel compelled to return to Syria. distrust spawning distrust

A European diplomat based in the region in 2012 recalled: “At the time, the west was fixated on Assad leaving. As if that was the beginning and the end of the strategy and then all else would fall into place … Russia continuously maintained it wasn’t about Assad. But if our heart hung on it, they were willing to talk about Assad; mind: usually as part of an overall plan, process, at some point etc. Not here and now.” However, the diplomat added: “I very much doubt the P3 [the US, UK and France] refused or dismissed any such strategy offer at the time. The questions were more to do with sequencing – the beginning or end of process – and with Russia’s ability to deliver – to get Assad to step down.” (how it shows suspicious politicians growing into their role!)

At the time of Ahtisaari’s visit to New York, the death toll from the Syrian conflict was estimated to be about 7,500. The UN believes that toll passed 220,000 at the beginning of this year, and continues to climb. The chaos has led to the rise of Islamic State. Over 11 million Syrians have been forced out of their homes. “We should have prevented this from happening because this is a self-made disaster, this flow of refugees to our countries in Europe,” Ahtisaari said. “I don’t see any other option but to take good care of these poor people … We are paying the bills we have caused ourselves.” I agree wholeheartedly, very wise words..... we are paying the bills we have caused ourselves....

Source: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/15/west-ignored-russian-offer-in-2012-to-have-syrias-assad-step-aside

orthodoxymoron wrote:A couple of years ago, an Individual of Interest told me that a War in Syria would be the beginning of all hell breaking loose (or something to that effect). They more recently said that Russian involvement in Syria was extremely dangerous (or something to that effect). They also indicated that Pope Francis was extremely dangerous (or something to that effect). I'm not up to speed regarding international and intergalactic intrigue -- but I suspect that everything of significance is planned and implemented by the Real Powers That Be (Who We Never See) -- so, in a sense, trying to keep-up and/or fight-evil, is probably pointless. Resistance might really be Futile. I've simply turned some of the madness into a religious and political science-fictional speculative-adventure (for better or worse, I know not). Remember Mr. Edgars in Babylon 5?? Remember Dempsey, Thomas, and Sophia in The Event?? I think these sorts of people (and/or other-than-people) really exist. The Rockefellers and Rothschilds probably can't tie their own shoes without permission. The Horror.

Carol wrote:Every summer something like a comet or Nibiru crossing overhead is predicted for the month of September for YEARS!. And every September, I do make an extra Costco run, fill up all the gas tanks on the cars and takes some extra cash out in case of an EMP from the Sun, or something else happens that would not allow us to use credit cards.

Sadly, the person who got me started on all of this prepping even before Y2K was the remote viewer Major Ed Dames - back in, I suspect 1995. Major Dames (or Dr. Doom as he likes to call himself) was always talking about the solar kill shot on the late night radio show Coast to Coast with Art Bell. So we've been in the habit of "prepping" for the past 20 years. TWENTY YEARS and not a friggin thing has happened in September other then 9/11 in 2001 and that was a man made event.

So this year.. my neighbor, who is a Messianic Jew has been sending me almost daily emails convinced with the Blood Moon and all of the signs in the Bible that the second coming was upon us any day now and has been standing outside on her porch calling out to god to come get her - she's ready for the rapture.

Well I'm not ready.  So have been praying for more time to do my "good works" - meaning there is a lot more to be done before it's time to cross over.

Subsequently, we even scheduled my cervical spine surgery for Oct 1st, this Thursday - so I'll be out of commission for a bit. My surgeon assured me that there was only a 1 percent mortality rate so I thought, GREAT! With 99% in my favor - it's all good. I don't think I'll end up coming home in a box as ashes to be scattered upon the surface of the sea along with some plumeria blossoms. It seems the auto accident in Utah at night, where the deer ran into my car knocking the car off the freeway down the embankment did far more damage then we originally thought - so now it's time for 3 vertebra to be removed and a titanium neck plate to go in and hold the new vertebra together. The good news is I'll be sleeping during the procedure. The bad news is a sore throat and 3-8 months for it all to heal.

After seeing the MRI pictures in August - I was really depressed not thinking I would survive another surgery given what happened during the last one 8 years ago. Thank goodness I'm beyond the fear factor having talked to a two people, one a friend, who had gone through a similar surgery and are doing terrific.

I just think we're meant to enjoy our daily life, be kind to others, keep learning new things and help out where we can.

Besides Bob... with our governments Secret Space Command on the job, along with ETs who keep shifting timelines so the outcome is more positive (so I've been informed by a contactee) for us wee humans on the planet - the future looks to be changing in ways we can't even begin to imagine.

At least this year many got to enjoy the full moon and most don't know or care - so their lives go on smoothly.

B.B.Baghor wrote:

Carol's words:
".....the future looks to be changing in ways we can't even begin to imagine"

Oh yeaaa Sounds like you're ready for IT, Carol. You'll live any way, whatever the form. I like to see it in this way,
before and after chopping wood, with enlightenment in between, in a physical body on this, or possibly another? planet  

"I just think we're meant to enjoy our daily life, be kind to others, keep learning new things and help out where we can".
Yes, I'm with you in this, Carol. I will send you support on October 1st, coming Thursday. If you feel it's right to do this, tell your
body parts that will be operated on, in advance, that they will be affected. This is part of a self-healing process and a way to
prevent the tissue-trauma somewhat, if you get what I mean. You can also ask the surgeon to describe his actions, while operating
on them, with you in narcosis-sleep. Your being will notice this and also in that way it's more present in following what's happening
to your physical body, in close connection.

As for the days between 23rd and 28th of September, after an initial strange couple of days, feeling a bit strange, as if nothing
mattered as much as it did before, while I lived in expectation of The Event, I remembered that no fixed dates are given, in the
descriptions of Susie Beiler's 12 video presentation. Also I felt that this attitude had thrown me outside of living in the present
moment, hence...  I threw myself off the right track, or so it felt to me. Very interesting, what prophecies can do to you, at times.
All days that are lived through in this way are good practice, to say it in a lighthearted way  

I pondered going through my days as if The Event had actually happened, shaping up and live what I intend to do and love to be.
Which is a creative way of making manifest what my intention is and what's present in my heart's desire. I do feel it's in the making
already for some time, in my perception. I'm feeling often that I live in my heaven here in the UK, my new location since July 1st

I've begun to look at these doom-and-gloom prophecies as human projections of intuitive hunches, in which a process of transformation
is imagined as a desastrous impact of a comet or meteor on planet Earth. It's important to remember that prophecies are creations
based on the situation and the state of mind of the creator present in it, never a thing that is meant to happen as if fixed in time.
It's like a weatherforecast with showers, you can choose to bring your umbrella or not. The umbrella isn't dictating the shower, see?

When fear is part of a prophets visualization/imagining, the chaos as part of that process of transformation is felt as a dangerous life-
threatening thing and so... images of celestial objects coming our way, easily pop up. They're also easily observed and explained as
punishment of God, for we're sort of trained to be submissive to it, it's deeply ingrained in our DNA.

When a religious fanatic sauce is added to the prophecy in the making, it's a very short distance to Self-inflating Stardom in the name
of God and the prophecy becomes the voice of God and proof of his love for us: God sending a token of it until death does us part.
I'm referring to a God, created in the image of a human being, if any of you feels hurt or offended by my sarcasm.

To me, the so called wrath of God is a human projection of his inner turmoil, his conscience' voice growing loud enough to be heard,
creating feelings of discomfort, due to deeply painful issues, projected onto an outside force or presence. Alas... that's been discussed
in numerous ways already, by men like Jung and Campbell, if I'm right. The team of Monty Python has shown this view in many different
ways too, as I perceive it. One of them is this image, part of their hilarious cartoon-circus.



Be well, Carol, before, during and after the operation  

Carol wrote:Thank you BB and Bob. Your prayers are most welcomed.    

I think the path of spirituality exists outside of religion as it's basically based on one's personal relationship with god and depending upon how one is raised may also include the teachings of some person who walked the spiritual path to a state of enlightenment. Hence I have a much different perspective on "religion" then the regular person as I see it as a method of entrainment   which often elevates the male who is given permission to dominate the female. For some that may work but most independent women   would have a hard time with that given todays world.  

We were particularly drawn to the path of Sant Mat (the path of the Saints) where the focus was on meditation   where one develops their spiritual relationship with god. This path promotes kindness, submission of ego as a result of spiritual practice, no mind altering drugs or alcohol and being a vegetarian.

Actually one can have some pretty amazing spiritual experiences  by following this very simple lifestyle.. and yet it requires discipline and a commitment to put ones spiritual path before ego gratification.

I think religion may work for some, yet that too, I've set aside for a variety of reasons. This is not to say I don't enjoying attending various services    from time to time, but given my personal experience with some of the "people" in control, I both saw and experienced how they let their ego    dictate their behavior rather then allowing the genuine teachings of compassion dictate how they behave toward the ones they wished to steward.

If one's personal relationship with the Divine is the primary relationship in life then it becomes easier to set fear aside and enjoy sharing our god-given talents with one another.  

Living in the 3rd dimension presents it's challenges and is most likely one of the most difficult "schools" for our soul to grow and expand. Personally, I think learning how to sit on one's ego when among others and not let ego run amuck one of the more difficult lessons. Hence the mini discourse on the difference between religion and spirituality.

Enjoy your day.

Carol wrote:Hi Oxy... All I know for sure is that life is a mystery and I enjoy turning the pages each day presents to view what's next on the agenda. The other thing I learned is having a partner to share life with who is comparable and kind enriches the experience - living on a mountain top without someone to share it with can get lonely.

Carol wrote:Aloha everyone,

Tomorrow I will be going in for cervical spine surgery as a result of the auto accident I was in last year. They will be removing/replacing 3 cervical discs and also putting in a titanium plate to hold it all together. I should have done this last year but was too chicken for a variety of reasons. However, the nerve damage from postponing the surgery is extensive and this needs to happen now. Basically, I'll be out of commission for a bit - don't know how long - hence my asking Reinhard to step in as Admin to help out.

As some of you may or may not know Mercurial has not logged in since last January, nor has he responded to repeated emails that I've sent to him. Unfortunately, I lost his telephone number when moving the office and can only contact him via email, which he hasn't responded to in months. Hence, I ask my husband, Reinhard, to take on the task of Admin just in case there is a problem where I can't do the job. Reinhard is a hospice and home health nurse so is very easy to get along with if you need to contact him for a problem on the forum. However, Mercurial was our tech computer expert so we're out of luck if something along those lines should arise.

Meanwhile, someone else is there to take over the reigns should the need arise. You're a great group and I appreciate each and everyone of you, along with your various and most excellent posts.

Thank you so much for everything during all of this time.

After surgery Reinhard "may" post an update to let you know how things went. Given this surgeon's reputation we expect an excellent outcome.

I've talked to one of his past patients who had a similar surgery with him and she was very impressed with his work and her results. Hopefully, I'll be back home by this Saturday with a very sore throat.

Meanwhile, I'm happy to have moved beyond the fear factor and am looking forward to being out of pain from the spinal stenosis.

As Reinhard is an RN he'll be with me the entire time while in the hospital and at home with the hospital post care. I'm in excellent hands.

Take care and be blessed.  

Carol

Carol wrote:There is so much going on at multiple levels it's almost impossible to keep track of any of it. Yes, a huge financial change is in the works along with earth changes which I know have just thrown up my hands and say.. now what? It seems every year in September a comet is predicted. And how many times had Nibiru been brought up. I'm past caring and continue to operate from the "no fear zone." Many of these world events are completely outside our sphere of influence and we're here more as observers other then those who have expanded their consciousness to take on a more pro-active role is helping where they can.

I have my own personal issue to deal with now and am not sure what the future holds. Sure wish Mercurial would return to hold up his end as an Admin given my own situation. I may have to turn the reigns over to someone else just in case things don't work out.

My neighbor of course is next door saying she is ready for the rapture....yelling, "come get me" while I'm next door saying, "No, wait, I'vet got a lot more work to do." It's so ironic that it's laughable. She convinced come the end of September, the XXXX is going to hit the fan. And I'm in another camp completely. Only time will tell.

And I will add, our government has been in control of time travel since the 40s and also has the US Secret Space command. I think they are far more on top of things then some can possibly even imagine - so as a result of knowing about this other information I stopped worrying about incoming astroids and comets years ago. We have our guardians watching out for the planet so I just don't get too worked up over "incoming" space debris.

Carol wrote:Well guess what? Today is Oct 1st and all the September dooms day prophecies can be flushed down the toilet.    Seems we survived several more time line changes without incident..  or our Secret Government Space Command is on the ball as expected.

     

   


   

orthodoxymoron wrote:

Any news regarding the surgery, Carol??

Carol wrote:I'll be leaving for the hospital in about 2 hours. Surgery is at 1:30 pm - 4 1/2 hours long. So that would be 4:30 pm to maybe 9 pm PST. We'll let you know how it goes in a day or two.

orthodoxymoron wrote:

Thank-you Carol. God Be With You.
I just thought of when President Ronald Reagan got shot, and was being
wheeled-into the operating-room, he looked-up at the surgical-team, and said
"I Hope You're All Republicans!!"