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In a preview for his talk for the upcoming Electric Universe conference for 2015, water researcher Dr. Gerald Pollack makes reference to what makes the earth spin?  

https://youtu.be/5iYUH-WQU78?t=6m41s

Seashore wrote:In a preview for his talk for the upcoming Electric Universe conference for 2015, water researcher Dr. Gerald Pollack makes reference to what makes the earth spin?  

https://youtu.be/5iYUH-WQU78?t=6m41s

I see this guy is into structured water, off topic, but a pet subject of mine. He is regurgitating Schaubergers's ideas on water and selling expensive water structurising devices, when the same end product can be made quite cheaply. His ideas are considered ground breaking.. except Schauberger started writing about this in the 1930 and doesnt get a mention in Pollacks work.

not wishing to sound cynical, just a quick peek at what he does, rather than watch another you tube video..

Vidya Moksha wrote: selling expensive water structurising devices

Can you link to that?

Seashore wrote:

Vidya Moksha wrote: selling expensive water structurising devices

Can you link to that?

this was linked from his lab..
http://shop.structuredwaterunit.com/

but i dont know, looking again, what the direct link is between him and this product, if any...

looking again, maybe google put that ad in there?.. i'm not sure... anyway.. structured water is Schaubergers work, whatever else may be going ona round it... its good to look to the source material..

maybe they are using his work just to promote their products? might just be lazy researching on my part..

http://www.structuredwaterunit.com/Dr_Gerald_Pollack.html

Vidya Moksha wrote:looking again, maybe google put that ad in there?.. i'm not sure... anyway.. structured water is Schaubergers work, whatever else may be going ona round it... its good to look to the source material..

maybe they are using his work just to promote their products? might just be lazy researching on my part..

http://www.structuredwaterunit.com/Dr_Gerald_Pollack.html

As far as I know Pollack is a professor who does research, writes books, and attends conferences.

Seashore wrote:

Vidya Moksha wrote:looking again, maybe google put that ad in there?.. i'm not sure... anyway.. structured water is Schaubergers work, whatever else may be going ona round it... its good to look to the source material..

maybe they are using his work just to promote their products? might just be lazy researching on my part..

http://www.structuredwaterunit.com/Dr_Gerald_Pollack.html

As far as I know Pollack is a professor who does research, writes books, and attends conferences.

i think you may be right, they (link above) have tried to associate his work with their products for credibility... just a waste of bandwidth on my part... my comments re Schauberger are good though .. i'll go and lie down and get another coffee after

Seashore wrote:To me, anti-clockwise would be East to West, not West to East.

I think I finally understand what was confusing me.

If you focus on the top of the rotation (aerial view of the earth but nothing to do with the sunrise), it is East to West, but the bottom is West to East.

But looking at a side view of the spinning earth, it is rotating (spinning) West to East.

Seashore wrote:In a preview for his talk for the upcoming Electric Universe conference for 2015, water researcher Dr. Gerald Pollack makes reference to what makes the earth spin?  

https://youtu.be/5iYUH-WQU78?t=6m41s

Of course, Pollack is not questioning whether or not the earth spins.

But I'm hoping that his upcoming talk may include some information about the spin that may shed some light on our discussion here.

Seashore wrote:
Of course, Pollack is not questioning whether or not the earth spins.

But I'm hoping that his upcoming talk may include some information about the spin that may shed some light on our discussion here.

most people treat this subject with derision. Those that actually look, rather than adopt a long held and continually reinforced notion, see that something is not quite right. Even if the earth is round, and even if it is spinning, it highlights shortcomings in current physical theories and laws, many held since Newton's days...

the problem is that once these fundamental man made laws are accepted there is licence to build castles on sand, and the basic assumptions may not be challenged. In the physics forum i posted above, they wont entertain the notion of a non-spinning earth for a second, in fact they actively discourage such talk. When they realise they are on a sticky wicket in terms of their theories they either go quiet or just claim that you cant be suggesting, for a second, that the earth is not spinning.. that is just heresy.

Two other things that Dubay claims are that satellites don't exist and dinosaurs didn't exist.  In his book, he talks about the theory of dinosaurs coming into existence before the first fossil was found, and that museums display fake dinosaur bones, claiming that the real bones are locked up in vaults.

Here's his Description of his video on satellites:

Published on Jan 2, 2015

Satellites are purely science-fiction. All supposed images of satellites in orbit show fake CGI "satellites" orbiting a fake CGI "ball-Earth." First conceived by Freemason science-fiction writer Arthur C. Clarke in 1945, they claim satellites became science-fact soon after. This is impossible for many reasons outlined in the following video, however, including the fact the melting points of the metals used in satellites are far lower than the temperature in the "thermosphere" where satellites supposedly are. Satellites, space stations, the Hubble telescope and space travel in general are absolutely the biggest hoaxes of the century, and NASA the most successful propaganda organization in history.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLMRWvXuc5U#t=1159

But is it true that the International Space Station can be seen with the naked eye?

Vidya Moksha wrote:http://www.zengardner.com/heliocentrism-dead-no-stellar-parallax/

Im posting the whole article here, but go and read the comments as well  

Heliocentrism Is Dead– There Is No Stellar Parallax

I wish the author didn't give his article the title he did, in view of his Comment:

Seashore wrote:
It'll be interesting to watch Anthony Migchels/Zen Gardner's subsequent comments:  



Here is his biography:

"Anthony Migchels is an interest-free currency activist. He blogs at realcurrencies.wordpress.com, "Supporting People and the Commonwealth and resisting the Money Power by defeating Usury". He runs the Gelre, the first Regional Currency in the Netherlands. The Gelre is the first interest-free credit based unit that is convertible to Euro and Anthony believes this innovation holds great promise to bring liberating currencies to the people in its struggle against the Money Power."
http://realcurrencies.wordpress.com

http://www.zengardner.com/author/anthony/

I checked again today and I don't see Anthony Migchels saying anymore in Comments.  It seems he made a bold statement in his title and then backed off of it in Comments.

well i like the quote of aristotle in the above graphic and its a nice way to go out... I enjoyed the thread, I have a lot of info on my computer and I will take my time to go through it. Im out of the mists again... but I suspect I will be back in a couple of weeks..

but nature calls and I am away into the hills for a spell...and my favourite location also has a good pub with my favourite beer... what a way to end a days hike

Vidya Moksha wrote:
most people treat this subject with derision. Those that actually look, rather than adopt a long held and continually reinforced notion, see that something is not quite right. Even if the earth is round, and even if it is spinning, it highlights shortcomings in current physical theories and laws, many held since Newton's days...

the problem is that once these fundamental man made laws are accepted there is licence to build castles on sand, and the basic assumptions may not be challenged. In the physics forum i posted above, they wont entertain the notion of a non-spinning earth for a second, in fact they actively discourage such talk. When they realise they are on a sticky wicket in terms of their theories they either go quiet or just claim that you cant be suggesting, for a second, that the earth is not spinning.. that is just heresy.

I can relate to that . I came across a physics forum or blog yesterday where the subject discussed was earth rotation.
One or two people posted about the earth not spinning. I noticed the members were given credits and that poster only had 1.Apparently that guy annoyed them for  at the end of the discussion a notice was given that from now on that only those members with a good amount of credits we going to be allowed to post the others not  contributing anything of worth to the discussion. How biased is that !

As you are to the hills Vidya if the weather is as beautiful as here it seems like a great time to be out there.
Enjoy it all

Love from me
mudra

Thank-you B.B. My starting point is quite conservative -- and it is only through semi-deep study and reflection that I become liberal, heretical, and irreverent. You know -- it's sort of like partying with a bunch of Harvard and Yale Divinity Professors!! They've all done their homework -- but most of them are probably rather cynical and skeptical -- until they've had a few drinks -- and had a few dances -- and then they joke and laugh about various issues -- regardless of how serious these issues might really be. I once told a Harvard Divinity School Graduate that "Jesus is an Institutionalized Liberal!!" He didn't even smile!! I once made a newspaper-columnist laugh by saying "The Schiavo Case was a No-Brainer!!" I shouldn't have -- but I just couldn't resist!! Sometimes I think about Dave Ferrie in the movie JFK. He studied to be a Catholic-Priest -- but got defrocked because of a bad-habit. He got involved with organized-crime -- Lee Harvey Oswald -- and he knew all about who killed Kennedy. Every other word was a swear-word -- spoken through his cigarette-smoking lips. He was a nervous-wreck!! I sometimes joke about imagining being a Renegade French-Jesuit Organist!! Perhaps there are some parallels with all of the above!!

[quote="orthodoxymoron"]Thank-you B.B. My starting point is quite conservative -- and it is only through semi-
deep study and reflection that I become liberal, heretical, and irreverent............... I sometimes joke about ima-
gining being a Renegade French-Jesuit Organist!! Perhaps there are some parallels with all of the above!!/quote]

We're pretty much off topic now, but this post of yours makes me laugh and it offers food for thought
too, ortho. Thanks for the humour, you're very descriptive in that part about the professors needing a drink first,
before loosening up in the wrong way, sort of..... And the starting point.... quite conservative.... that's where
my being Dutch comes in. What exactly does that word mean, ortho? I know there's a Dutch word for it too....
conservatief.... but even familiar with that, I cannot grasp the true meaning of it. I know of conserves, sold in
glass pots or as canned food.

I suggest to reply by pm or elsewhere, so that we can leave this thread in good order, okay?

GreatWork777 from old Avalon also claimed that dinosaurs did not exist.

burgundia wrote:This is a picture of a formatted disc divided into sectors...



Universe, or whatever it is, is a computer and earth is on a CD. Our world is a program recorded on a disc. It is software.

Burgundia,

Where does the above come from?

I just paused the Project Camelot interview of Simon Parkes because Kerry just asked him about "flat earth" and I was surprised to hear his answer.  Listen:

https://youtu.be/NiwQf0d0QMU?t=1h51m12s

Seashore wrote:

burgundia wrote:This is a picture of a formatted disc divided into sectors...



Universe, or whatever it is, is a computer and earth is on a CD. Our world is a program recorded on a disc. It is software.

Burgundia,

Where does the above come from?

I just paused the Project Camelot interview of Simon Parkes because Kerry just asked him about "flat earth" and I was surprised to hear his answer.  Listen:

https://youtu.be/NiwQf0d0QMU?t=1h51m12s

I have just finished listening to the whole interview. The picture comes from a book "English language for computer users" and it is about computers, programming, IT devices, etc. I use this book in my work and when I saw the UN logo I remembered that picture so I copied and pasted it here.