My Problem With Bill Ryan and his Avalonians

TRANCOSO wrote:
Bill - PA - is exploiting a fresh 'phenomena' since a couple of weeks: GoodETxSG
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?66018-A-major-new-interview-with-a-Project-Avalon-Whistleblower--Questions-for-GoodETxSG-

Carol wrote:I listened to the interview when it first came out. No problem. Too many folks seem to not have enough to do in their lives that they appear to create drama over nothing.

Carol wrote:Maybe I'm just getting older Lord TRANCOSO.  

TRANCOSO wrote:
Bill - PA - is exploiting a fresh 'phenomena' since a couple of weeks: GoodETxSG
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?66018-A-major-new-interview-with-a-Project-Avalon-Whistleblower--Questions-for-GoodETxSG-

orthodoxymoron wrote: But what happens when the debate goes mainstream -- complete with riots, murders, insanity, firings, suicides, etc.??!! This is a relatively-private Moot-War -- but what will things be like in ten years?? We'd better think this thing through...

orthodoxymoron wrote:I'm presently very wary regarding just about everyone and everything (including the alternative-media and controversial-forums). Decades ago -- I attended several Whole Life Expos -- and while I enjoyed them -- I felt somewhat vulnerable and creepy -- so I stopped going. An intelligent and distinguished-looking couple mentioned to me "that the human-mind is very-susceptible to nefarious-suggestions and delusional-programming." I agreed with them then -- and I still agree. I recall having a private conversation with Dr. Raphael Ornstein on the steps of the Pasadena Civic Auditorium -- where he told me that "learning the alternative information goes slowly at first -- but then occurs very rapidly." What worries me is regarding what will happen when the general-public begins "learning very rapidly." It's one thing for a group of seasoned-seekers to discuss crazy-topics on a forum (such as this one). It's a relatively dull and benign process. But what happens when the debate goes mainstream -- complete with riots, murders, insanity, firings, suicides, etc.??!! This is a relatively-private Moot-War -- but what will things be like in ten years?? We'd better think this thing through...

The great king's jester Danny Kaye, my favorite actor.

Here's elve Twinkle, leaving her foxglove flowery room, to invite Peter Pan for a walk along the sandalwood trees.
She likes to address his consistent style of prayer, for what it's worth, throwing her tuppence in the ring, remembering
her similar style of praying in the past: "who am I?" "For what am I here?"


This text isn't by my hand, the illustrations with it are my tribute to the profoundness of it, as I perceive it.
Just noticed that the text is blurred, so I share it in the attachment here.

This is my share of thoughts provoked by what I sense present in most of your thoughts, shared in posts here, ortho.
I see you praying, crying out for that which you deny yourself. To begin to find the freedom in you, to reach that
creative strength to make the dream come true of your deep longing, is allowing your mind to let go and prove to itself,
that it's wrong. By shaping the future with images of the past, we never leave the treadmill we've become so immensely
fed up with, at least that's how it seems to me when looking around, this bewildering shift of consciousness, humanity
kicking and screaming for fear in trespassing the threshold into a new reality, of our own making, as far as we resonate
with it or resist the inevitable process happening.

For the mind, to let go of it's own approval of what's true or not, it's quite a contrary motion, seldom done succesfully.
It almost can't be done. The essence of what Don Juan tried to convey to Carlos Castaneda, in his teachings, is his insistence
in being an impeccable warrior, which to him was nothing more than an effort to let intent know that he is putting himself in
its way.

One possible road present, tried by me, is the one you step on saying "I don't know" and leave it at that. Just be in that void,
just be. Even if it's terrifying, at first, which it usually is. Don't run from it, stay with it and just look at what IS. By accepting
your mind as an instrument and not as the commander of your view on life, you step into being the ruler of your life. Once you
accept that, the world starts to change around you. It can be done "in the wink of an eye". I've had my share in trials and error.

To live in a fool's attempt to step in a void of your own existence, is often a fertile ground for roots and shoots in one's life, as
I experienced. It's about suffering without identifying with it, seeing it for what it is in essence and find clarity in that, by removing
the veils, created by our mind, presented as our truth but illusionary by nature for the purpose of keeping you emprisoned.
For the mind is a cruel master and a destroyer of life, while in intellectual perfection and righteousness.

The greatest fool to earthly human eyes, Jesus, once said "I will make all things new" and he didn't mean that as a savior, fixing us
in all that's supposedly wrong, making us whole. The law of no intervention is obeyed by him too. Our free will is a precious and
necessary condition and tool to create our parth to fulfill the purpose of our soul, without the intervention of the mind forcing it into
submission. As I see him, in his spiritual path, and I had to walk many miles and turn at roundabouts, to step out of the box of my
upbringing as a minister's dauchter, Jesus is one of the many beings who was accompanied by the Christforce energy while in a physical
human body.

I'm not talking about any church institute dogma here. To me, he showed me....humanity, this precious gift, while standing in front of
that tribunal in the hour of his "death" this tribunal, insisting on suffering, identifying with it, without eyes to see and ears to hear.  
In Jesus words "Father forgive them, for they don't know what they're doing" he showed, as I understand this, that bringing our heaven
onto our earth, for which I believe we choose to be here and live it, is to embrace the all forgiving all encompassing presence of pure love
within us, which is present always, never skipping a moment in time.

Allowing that love to be present in our suffering, healing that personal and collective pain, is the highest goal and most valuable
achievement for this world, in these times, as I see it. For by doing that we stop being selfish and a life in survival. We decide to end
our being victimised and by stepping up, to bridge the experience of sharing our humanness with our spiritual being, becoming whole
again in finding our creator ability, never taken away from us, only disguised and twisted to do us wrong, in self applied punishment.
Finally leaving this reality, our own creation when looked at from the bigger point of view, the bottom of the barrel in the 3rd dimension.
ET go home? Yes, ET go home!

And now Elve Twinkle shakes Peter Pan's hand and flies away. After an initial thoughtful moment, he insists on returning to his intellectual
ivory tower. I can so relate to your journey, ortho, for once upon a time I lived in that tower as mother superior.

B.B.Baghor wrote:

orthodoxymoron wrote:I'm presently very wary regarding just about everyone and everything (including the alternative-media and controversial-forums). Decades ago -- I attended several Whole Life Expos -- and while I enjoyed them -- I felt somewhat vulnerable and creepy -- so I stopped going. An intelligent and distinguished-looking couple mentioned to me "that the human-mind is very-susceptible to nefarious-suggestions and delusional-programming." I agreed with them then -- and I still agree. I recall having a private conversation with Dr. Raphael Ornstein on the steps of the Pasadena Civic Auditorium -- where he told me that "learning the alternative information goes slowly at first -- but then occurs very rapidly." What worries me is regarding what will happen when the general-public begins "learning very rapidly." It's one thing for a group of seasoned-seekers to discuss crazy-topics on a forum (such as this one). It's a relatively dull and benign process. But what happens when the debate goes mainstream -- complete with riots, murders, insanity, firings, suicides, etc.??!! This is a relatively-private Moot-War -- but what will things be like in ten years?? We'd better think this thing through...

The great king's jester Danny Kaye, my favorite actor.

Here's elve Twinkle, leaving her foxglove flowery room, to invite Peter Pan for a walk along the sandalwood trees.
She like to share her reflections with him on his original style of prayer, for what it's worth, throwing her tuppence in the ring.



In most of your posts I see you praying ortho, crying out for that which you deny yourself. To begin to find the freedom in you,
to reach that creative strength to make the dream come true of your deep longing, is allowing your mind to prove to itself, that
it's wrong. By shaping the future with images of the past, we never leave the treadmill we've become so immensely fed up with.

This is such a contrary motion, that it's seldom done succesfully. It almost can't be done and that's why another road is present
and that's the one you step on saying "I don't know" and leave it at that. Just be in that void, just be. Even if it's terrifying, at first,
which it usually is. Don't run from it, stay with it and just look at what IS. By accepting your mind as an instrument and not as the
commander of your view on life, you step into being the ruler of your life and once you accept that, the world changes around you.

It can be done "in the wink of an eye". To live in a fool's attempt to step in a void, is often a fertile ground for roots and shoots in
one's life. The greatest fool to earthly human eyes, Jesus, once said "I will make all things new" and he didn't mean that as a savior,
fixing us in all that's supposedly wrong, making us whole. The law of no intervention is obeyed by him too. For free will is a precious
and necessary tool to create, without the intervention of the mind forcing it into submission.

As I see him, Jesus is one of the many beings who was accompanied by the Christforce energy while in a physical human body.
I'm not talking about any church institute dogma here. To me, he showed humanity that bringing our heaven onto our earth,
to each his own, is to embrace the all forgiving all encompassing presence of pure love within us, which is present always,
never skipping a moment in time. Elve Twinkle shakes Peter Pan's hand and flies away, leaving him dumbfounded.
But not for long.

TRANCOSO wrote:

B.B.Baghor wrote:

orthodoxymoron wrote:I'm presently very wary regarding just about everyone and everything (including the alternative-media and controversial-forums). Decades ago -- I attended several Whole Life Expos -- and while I enjoyed them -- I felt somewhat vulnerable and creepy -- so I stopped going. An intelligent and distinguished-looking couple mentioned to me "that the human-mind is very-susceptible to nefarious-suggestions and delusional-programming." I agreed with them then -- and I still agree. I recall having a private conversation with Dr. Raphael Ornstein on the steps of the Pasadena Civic Auditorium -- where he told me that "learning the alternative information goes slowly at first -- but then occurs very rapidly." What worries me is regarding what will happen when the general-public begins "learning very rapidly." It's one thing for a group of seasoned-seekers to discuss crazy-topics on a forum (such as this one). It's a relatively dull and benign process. But what happens when the debate goes mainstream -- complete with riots, murders, insanity, firings, suicides, etc.??!! This is a relatively-private Moot-War -- but what will things be like in ten years?? We'd better think this thing through...

The great king's jester Danny Kaye, my favorite actor.

Here's elve Twinkle, leaving her foxglove flowery room, to invite Peter Pan for a walk along the sandalwood trees.
She like to share her reflections with him on his original style of prayer, for what it's worth, throwing her tuppence in the ring.



In most of your posts I see you praying ortho, crying out for that which you deny yourself. To begin to find the freedom in you,
to reach that creative strength to make the dream come true of your deep longing, is allowing your mind to prove to itself, that
it's wrong. By shaping the future with images of the past, we never leave the treadmill we've become so immensely fed up with.

This is such a contrary motion, that it's seldom done succesfully. It almost can't be done and that's why another road is present
and that's the one you step on saying "I don't know" and leave it at that. Just be in that void, just be. Even if it's terrifying, at first,
which it usually is. Don't run from it, stay with it and just look at what IS. By accepting your mind as an instrument and not as the
commander of your view on life, you step into being the ruler of your life and once you accept that, the world changes around you.

It can be done "in the wink of an eye". To live in a fool's attempt to step in a void, is often a fertile ground for roots and shoots in
one's life. The greatest fool to earthly human eyes, Jesus, once said "I will make all things new" and he didn't mean that as a savior,
fixing us in all that's supposedly wrong, making us whole. The law of no intervention is obeyed by him too. For free will is a precious
and necessary tool to create, without the intervention of the mind forcing it into submission.

As I see him, Jesus is one of the many beings who was accompanied by the Christforce energy while in a physical human body.
I'm not talking about any church institute dogma here. To me, he showed humanity that bringing our heaven onto our earth,
to each his own, is to embrace the all forgiving all encompassing presence of pure love within us, which is present always,
never skipping a moment in time. Elve Twinkle shakes Peter Pan's hand and flies away, leaving him dumbfounded.
But not for long.

Why did you post the above in this font size, B.B.?

B.B.Baghor wrote:

TRANCOSO wrote:

Why did you post the above in this font size, B.B.?

Bedoel je de grootte van de letters, Trancoso? Ik weet niet wat letter in het Engels is dus zeg ik het maar in onze taal.
Omdat ik vond dat de letters in mijn nogal lange lappen tekst erg klein waren, om goed te kunnen lezen,  besloot ik
onlangs om het groter te publiceren. Vandaar deze verandering. Is dat een antwoord op je vraag?

TRANCOSO wrote:

B.B.Baghor wrote:

TRANCOSO wrote:

Why did you post the above in this font size, B.B.?

Bedoel je de grootte van de letters, Trancoso? Ik weet niet wat letter in het Engels is dus zeg ik het maar in onze taal.
Omdat ik vond dat de letters in mijn nogal lange lappen tekst erg klein waren, om goed te kunnen lezen,  besloot ik
onlangs om het groter te publiceren. Vandaar deze verandering. Is dat een antwoord op je vraag?

Ja, dat is wat ik bedoel.

Bigger isn't (always) better.

Integendeel, The Better You (Have To) Look The More You See...

 

TRANCOSO wrote:
In another, recently started thread by 'Cidersomerset' - 'Reptilians Among Us - The Alien Race 'Here' On Earth' - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?77745-Reptilians-Among-Us-The-Alien-Race-Here-On-Earth-Viewer-Discretion our 'friend' GoodETxSG also pops up.

"I wouldn't go searching "Them Out" or looking for the "Truth" (They are very "Psychic" or "Tuned In"). I have said it before, The more You put Them in Your Consciousness the more You put Yourself into Their consciousness...", GoodETxSG claims.

Carol wrote:Bangor, I like text size 16 myself and enjoy reading others foreign language exchanges. It adds that international flare that makes this forum fun.

Carol wrote:Those people most vulnerable to being a host use alcohol and drugs

orthodoxymoron wrote: My Problem is That I Have a Problem With Those Who Have a Problem With Bill Ryan and His Avalonians...

Carol wrote:This post is in reference to what TRANCES and mudra posted. 


Have you ever looked at someone in the eyes and not seem them but something else (someone else not human). I did and it was chilling.

Carol wrote:Bangor, I like text size 16 myself and enjoy reading others foreign language exchanges. It adds that international flare that makes this forum fun.