Floyd wrote: Carol wrote: I had already read Marshall Masters work and was hooked. But before Marshall Masters was Nancy Leider who I think is yet another individual who has been deceived and is is being manipulated via mind-control.
Leider is dealt with in the first video posted on this thread Carol. She told us that the pole shift would be caused by Niburu in 2003 and that we should all kill our pets as they wouldn't make it. Burgundia are you listening!
Marshall Masters is certainly heavy on the doom and lite reality.
This has without a doubt turned into my favorite thread with so many joining in the discussion.
First, when I knew nothing about anything I discovered Nancy Lieder's web site and went into fear-panic mode. Well many years later and much research fear fell away. You should realize by now I really do love science and spirituality. I came to realize that Nancy Lieder is not a credible source of information and don't worry about what she puts out there anymore.
I suspect Marshall was in the fear mode, when he was gathering his data because learning about the possibility of PX and thinking it really is there, and what may happen to the planet, as a result of its elliptical passage around the sun, resulted in his just wanting to get the word out and prepare folks. It's best to keep in mind that these people accept PX as a reality and just wanted to help prepare others for some type of global catastrophe.
Having been Public Health Educator for a number of years where it was my job to educate and notify the general public about potential dangers and health risks, it is only natural that I too would fall into the category of wanting to help folks prepare themselves.
The other persons that we invested a lot of time in listening to and reading their data were connected with the Horizon Project.
http://www.thehorizonproject.com/It was after reviewing their data that we became convince something was on the horizon.
The Horizon Project's charter is to gather and cross-check vast amounts of knowledge in many dozen specialized fields from scientists and researchers around the globe in addition to studying hundreds of historical documents spanning back to the dawn of history. These fields include archeology, geology, astro, geo & quantum physics, ancient languages & civilizations, paleontology, ancient history, genetics and others.This is science.
Their data may be a bit dramatic but so is science. And they too wanted to help warn others.
The bottom line for me is not about fear as we all are born and will die. This is an inevitable fact of what it is to be human. What this adventure is about for me personally is to push me fully to living in the present. After going through the various stages of grief is acceptance. Meaning facing ones own mortality sooner then later can be a good thing.
When I first learned about the possibility of PX I was frightened. Then after much preparation (primarily due to Y2K and Major Ed Dames) I was really pissed that nothing happened and we went through all that effort and expense for nothing. Or so I thought. What is education is one doesn't go through effort and expense?
Well, it's 12 years down a road I wondered about and we're still here. And even here in a new spot again there was the effort and expense to become as self-sufficient as possible. And you know what? I came to realize I really do enjoy this type of life style. It suits me to go out and gather eggs along with produce. I go out in the morning with my little egg basket to gather what the girls laid, pick some black berries, blue berries, twist off a pineapple, pick a few figs and a bell pepper or two. We never pay a water bill because our water is in a catchment from the rain. I've been gathering solar panels and a couple of generators - next a wind mill. So all that doom and gloom chatter really pushed me into a life-style I find great joy in. It just doesn't get any better then this. Other then that I could learn to be a better gardener, painter, piano player... and just enjoy family and friends even more which is something I look forward to when the grid goes down, if ever.
One just has to learn enough about themselves to know where they want to put their attention, energy and focus. I just wanted the time to learn and experience as much as possible without worrying about what comes next because in truth - for the most part we can't know. It's a mystery.
I had a friend who died while in grammar school so began to think of death at an early age. As the years passed so did other friends and family members. In many cases when life had been lived, death was something they looked forward to. They were no longer afraid because they had learned that death was just a transition from one form of awareness to the next.
Things, like accepting the possibility of PX, with respect to facing the enviable reality of the end of ones own life, are in our lives for a reason. They allow us to look outside of the box and move beyond fear.
This is where you and I differ. I don't look at examining the possibility of PX as fear mongering, just as I don't look at the reality of CMEs with fear. It just is what it is.
Reality is so huge, so immense, that discovering it often has to be done is tiny bite-size pieces. Sometimes something is just too big to take in. For example, my daughter when she was little watched the plane crash into the twin towers and became hysterical. She was completely undone for years. There was no way she could accept, or take in, that a human being would do something like that to other human beings.
If anything, I fear the toxic pollution by humankind to the planet as far more life-threatening then PX passing by - because radiation poisoning from Fukashima and toxic contamination in the Gulf of Mexico are far more real then PX. In one sense, a pole shift would be a relief - as an end in itself to the wonton destruction of our precious planet by stupid greedy individuals who are just to damn short-sighted to see how they themselves are a blight to life itself.
So yes, I do suspect there is some sort of PX. And no, I'm not afraid if it is there or not there. To my way of thinking, what the US government is doing with regard to loss of freedoms is far more unsettling then what PX may do, any day of the week.
Those who believe in death for apostates and hell for everyone except their own method of balancing things in void, nothingness and nirvana cannot defend their own fanaticism of a balancing stuff in a logical manner. 
temperatures there into warmer climates so they can socialise in a more comfortable environment.