ceridwen wrote:You may want to look at this
and this http://www.gsjournal.net/old/ntham/amesbury.pdf
I am not a scientist so while I understand most of it, I can not really discuss the paper. You can email them though, the email is at the top of the paper
Scientist are progressing, correcting their mistakes and becoming more accurate with new more powerful sensors. The new theories do not leave any space whatsoever for Nibiru
Dear Unicorn lassie de Eire!
This is a nice attempt to introduce the 'multidimensionality' into the astrophysics ceridwen; but it does not describe the actual science of the solar system's dynamics.
Whenever you see comments like this on 'you tube' like here; then you should open up your discernment filters. Science builds on existing models, just as your last comment indicated. Science does not 'throw out' its own history of discovery and the evolvement of its auspices and modus operandi. Newton based his 'Principia' on Galileo, Kepler, Copernicus and the greek and french etc. 'natural philosophers'. Einstein did NOT render Newtonian mechanics 'redundant', he simply EXTENDED and finetuned the science of the 17th and 18th century.
The obvious 'flaws' in this 'you tube' science, is its misunderstandings as to how space and time function in something called a 'metric' aka a 'spacetime matrix'. Those 'metrics' define the nature of spacetime in well tested and verified principles like the conservation of energy and momentum, both linear and rotational. One important principle is that of 'Relativity', which means, that the 'Laws of Nature' are not selective in regards to location and temporality. The 'frames of references' of the observer, so become determinative for the 'measurements' in all of the universal dynamics.
In these videos, the frames of the observer is of course one watching the solar system moving through spacetime, say in another frame of reference of that of a galactic observer, which then would be relatively stationary to this solar system observer.
Of course, now you could reference 'Einstein - and Relativity debunker' you tube videos, to say, that the 'old science' got it wrong and that there are better models, like say the vortex heliocentric dynamics of professor so and so, most likely without much actual experience and nous in the 'science' heshe wishes to 'reform'.
And yes, there are 'flaws' or better said 'missing models and explanations' in what is known today as the 'standard science' as promulgated and taught at the universities. But as you said, this 'missing information' in the old models might very well be found sooner or later in the actual scientists and laymen doing the actual research under utility of the present data base and knowledge.
You will not find this advancement by the 'wanna be experts', which 'throw out' the history of science in their New Age BS,so amenable now to the spread of misinformation in the prevalence of the data overload.
Forget the old heliocentric model - our solar system is a vortex!
The old Newtonion/Copernican Heliocentric model of our solar system is an unproven theory. In fact it is a false one.
Since our solar system travels through space, the planets do NOT revolve around the Sun in a circular fashion.
They are "dragged" behind the Sun in a spiral: vortex motion. In fact, after 365 days the Earth does NOT return to the starting point of its orbit.
This has GREAT consequences for the physics involved, because rotational motion and vortex motion are two completely different things:
In Nature, everything spirals. Life itself is vortex motion.
True and the helical motion in this video is like a scalar component for a transverse propagating electromagnetic field. Just here, the 'good science' of Nikola Tesla has also become 'hijacked' by the 'BS artists'; who misconstrue his 'ideas' on the scalar component of a 3-dimensional wave propagation. It is the scalar unidirectional component, which is 'seen cometlike', as the motion of the sun along its path around the galactic centre, apparently 'dragging' the planets in their helical vortical orbits with it.
However, this 3d scalar component is well described by the Laws of Nature in say the Maxwellian Electromagnetic Fields and does not require a 'New Age Vortex physics'.
There is a multidimensionality in the 'Laws of Physics', which CAN transcend the 4-dimensional matrix of the socalled 'tyranny of the lightspeed prison'. This idea then has found great speculation and nonsense proposals (like 90% of you tube videos) by many, who are dissatisfied with the present state of the world in science and also generally.
This extension is also WELL KNOWN by the present day scientific thinkers, but does not receive the mainstream exposure; say as an effect of the 'science educational standards' of the general populace.
This extension is 'hyperspace' and this hyperspace simply adds a 4th spacial dimension to the existing 3 dimensions of XYZ and so allows a 5-dimensional metric or matrix to superpose the existing criteria and paramaters, such as what space and time are in connection with whatever dynamics occurs within it (say a plenum).
Having a real 5-dimensional spacetime metric, would allow New Age misnomers like Tesla's 'scalar telluric currents' or the 'tachyonic superluminal velocities' to become appropriately defined and characterised WITHIN the basis of the now existing 4-dimensional (Minkowski) metric. The 4D matrix is 'flat'; whilst a 5D matrix would allow this selfsame 'curvature', those videos are attempting to show in a rather naive misrepresentation of the frame referenced dynamics of the solar system about the galactic center.
The Milky Way galaxy also moves in divers motions towards the sister galaxy Andromeda and towards a socalled 'Great Attractor' in the Virgo supercluster.
If those videos would portend 'a new astrophysics', then it has ignored the relative vortex dynamics of the galactic component acting upon it and so on.
A simple experimenty for you ceridwen; when you are in a plane with your friend, sitting say two rows ahead of you in the plane. Can you actually throw a ball to your friend and can your friend catch your ball?
Nevertheless the physical factuality, that the plane is moving at great speed through a 4-dimensional spacetime matrix? Would the relative velocity of the ball flying within the plane NOT be subject to the speed of the plane and so DISTORT the flightpath of the ball?
Its the 'reference frame' of the Unicorn de Eire as forming a physically 'isolated system' for the dynamics; just as the local starsystem in its celestial mechanics, can be coinsidered as such without superposing the relativity of the galactic dynamics.
The refusal of the 'wanna bes' to actually USE the existing models for their 'pioneering' and reforming agendas would be a criteria of discernment for anyone to utilize in the attempts to separate the 'possible expansion of the status quo in any field of science' from the New Age BS.
Here is a better you tube video with valid extension proposals by various agents, including Victor Schauberger, Walter Russell, Ed Leedskalnin, and pointing to the misconceptions of Nassim Haramein and this related one from Keshava Bhat and the 'Keshe foundation'. Caveat, whilst this video appropriately addresses the videos of ceridwen in a representative sense; and whilst the 'author' is 'in tune' with certain 'matrix extensions' by the models he supports; he does not adhere to the practice and history of the 'standard science', say as indicated in the above. This author so is not recommended as a valid source of information apart from 'insights' into the 'Magnetic Current' ideas of Walter Russell and Ed Leedskalnin and affinities in a particular mode of interpretation of the multidimensionality of the universe.
Raven Lionheart for the Thuban Library on Akbar Ra
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