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    Post  magamud Sun Nov 04, 2012 2:14 am

    43“When an evilf spirit comes out of a man, it goes through arid places seeking rest and does not find it. 44Then it says, ‘I will return to the house I left.’ When it arrives, it finds the house unoccupied, swept clean and put in order. 45Then it goes and takes with it seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and they go in and live there. And the final condition of that man is worse than the first. That is how it will be with this wicked generation.”

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    Post  Eartheart Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:33 am

    like the devil said in the beginning, the problem is with man & and not with me1!!!
    I know the goddess and be the father of her offspring???
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    Post  magamud Sun Nov 04, 2012 9:33 am

    Then I heard another voice from heaven say: "Come out of her, my people, so that you will not share in her sins, so that you will not receive any of her plagues;
    for her sins are piled up to heaven, and God has remembered her crimes.

    Revelation 18:5

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    Post  magamud Mon Nov 12, 2012 7:17 pm

    A part of the deception with the Luciferian light body, is in your relationship with your body.

    This has to do with grounding and bioeclectricsm.

    Lucifer gets you addicted to the cosmos just enough to walk you up a footstool.

    This is in relation to your awareness.

    This can also work in an opposite direction, with being to much in your body.

    Everyone has their own rhythm.....

    But wisdom is proved right by all her children.
    Luke 7:35

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    Post  magamud Sun Dec 02, 2012 1:10 pm

    Satan's final deception, simulating the arrival of Jesus Christ

    http://www.amazinghope.net/satans-final-deception-simulating-the-arrival-of-jesus-christ/


    All Bible prophecy being fulfilled and suggest that our world is at the end of their history. Current world events indicates that we are in the last days of this world and our job is to prepare for our encounter with God. Therefore carefully study the Word of God, to understand what will soon happen in this world.

    The Bible warns us against imitation coming of Jesus Christ?

    The Bible warns us that before Jesus Christ comes again to this world, Satan tries to make his ultimate scam. Attempts to fool all the believers and unbelievers, imitating Christ's coming. Satan will come in great glory of this world, we will be unthinkable. It's something the human eye has seen. People will call back to Christ and fall at his feet. Satan in the form of Christ will quote his remarks, miracles and heal people. It will reveal a number of places in this world and deceive many.

    2,3-12 Thessalonians - Do not let anyone deceive in any way. Until that day comes, there needs to be turned away from God. They must discover the wicked and reprobate, who opposes and exalteth himself above all that what it says and what God is worshiped. Settle even in God's temple and will issue a God! Do you not remember how I told you when I was still with you? You know what prevents him yet - may in fact occur until that time. The secret of this wickedness, but it works, just waiting for it to disappear the obstacle.

    When it appears that Wicked, Jesus destroy him the breath of his mouth, destroying its brightness it coming. The advent of the wicked will become Satan's activity, all the false powers, wonders and miracles. With all the folly is to deceive those who are heading to disaster, because he did not love the truth, which could save. Therefore, the issue over to God delusion to believe lies. So they sentenced all those who believe the truth but had pleasure in infamy.

    It will promote the papal Sunday as a day of rest in the right place Biblical Sabbath. Breaks great hardship and persecution of the faithful who remain faithful to God and will keep his law.

    Revelation 12.17 - Then the dragon was angry at his wife and went to make war with the rest of her seed, who keep God's commandments and have the testimony of Jesus.

    Daniel 7.25 - Will speech against the Most High, the saints will be wrong and try to change the times and rules. Saints will be given into his hands for a time and times and half a time.
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    Post  magamud Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:06 am

    Mental illness more specifically schizophrenia is the consequence of our societal posture. This is why they present usually religious grandiose, narcissistic, etherial and position their perception unusually eccentric and hard to track. This analogy is the same with the poor.

    This is a tell to what Sin is and the magnitude of its consequences.

    Our species has fallen and the poor show this. This is why Jesus praises the poor and hungry and tell that the Rich have received their compensation already and how difficult it is to repent from Sin.

    Sin manifests itself as death.

    Read the Gospel....
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    Post  magamud Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:27 pm

    Oh boy the yogis...

    What can I say. They believe the world has no mind, when it does. It has an identity which is christ. It is the most simplistic plan friends, because God is a bearded human who

    commiserates with all of us. Its a human relationship with God that is flesh and blood. It is irony in itself, as the Yogi is egocentric about his beliefs.

    Sounds about right in a mirrored world.
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    Post  orthodoxymoron Wed Dec 19, 2012 12:19 am

    Consider this sobering quotation from the early writings of Ellen White:

    "We must examine well the foundation of our hope, for we shall have to give a reason for it from the Scriptures. This delusion will spread, and we shall have to contend with it face to face; and unless we are prepared for it, we shall be ensnared and overcome. But if we do what we can on our part to be ready for the conflict that is just before us, God will do His part, and His all-powerful arm will protect us. He would sooner send every angel out of glory to the relief of faithful souls, to make a hedge about them, than have them deceived and led away by the lying wonders of Satan.

    I saw the rapidity with which this delusion was spreading. A train of cars was shown me, going with the speed of lightning. The angel bade me look carefully. I fixed my eyes upon the train. It seemed that the whole world was on board, that there could not be one left. Said the angel, “They are binding in bundles ready to burn.” Then he showed me the conductor, who appeared like a stately, fair person, whom all the passengers looked up to and reverenced. I was perplexed and asked my attending angel who it was. He said, “It is Satan. He is the conductor in the form of an angel of light. He has taken the world captive. They are given over to strong delusions, to believe a lie, that they may be damned. This agent, the next highest in order to him, is the engineer, and other of his agents are employed in different offices as he may need them, and they are all going with lightning speed to perdition.”

    I asked the angel if there were none left. He bade me look in an opposite direction, and I saw a little company traveling a narrow pathway. All seemed to be firmly united, bound together by the truth, in bundles, or companies. Said the angel, “The third angel is binding, or sealing, them in bundles for the heavenly garner.” This little company looked careworn, as if they had passed through severe trials and conflicts. And it appeared as if the sun had just risen from behind a cloud and shone upon their countenances, causing them to look triumphant, as if their victories were nearly won.

    I saw that the Lord has given the world opportunity to discover the snare. This one thing is evidence enough for the Christian, if there were no other; namely, that there is no difference made between the precious and the vile. Thomas Paine, whose body has now moldered to dust and who is to be called forth at the end of the one thousand years, at the second resurrection, to receive his reward and suffer the second death, is represented by Satan as being in heaven, and highly exalted there. Satan used him on earth as long as he could, and now he is carrying on the same work through pretensions of having Thomas Paine so much exalted and honored in heaven; as he taught here, Satan would make it appear that he is teaching in heaven. There are some who have looked with horror at his life and death, and his corrupt teachings while living, but who now submit to be taught by him, one of the vilest and most corrupt of men, one who despised God and His law."
    -- 'Early Writings' pgs. 88,89 by Ellen White.
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    Post  magamud Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:40 am

    Nice post Ortho...


    The Warfare against self is the greatest battle that was ever fought. Steps to Christ, p. 27

    The strongest argument in favor of the gospel is a loving and lovable Christian. Help in Daily Living, p. 2

    Often our plans fail that God's plans for us may succeed. Help in Daily Living, p. 6






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    Post  orthodoxymoron Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:35 pm

    Thank-you magamud. I pick and choose with the Bible and Ellen White. I simultaneously accept and reject the Bible and Ellen White. They are excellent mental and spiritual exercises -- but who knows what the absolute theological truth really is? I understand that even the Jesuits study the writings of Ellen White (especially 'Great Controversy')! I don't tell people to join churches -- or to leave them. I do tell people to conduct an ongoing astronomy-centered, multidisciplinary study of science, governance, religion, fringe-research, science-fiction, and conspiracy-theories. What if Jesus turns out to be both good and bad -- as heretical as that sounds?? I wouldn't be surprised by ANYTHING at this point. I think that history (both secular and sacred) is very messy and very nasty. Should we consider the possibility of a Good Mary, Bad Mary, Good Jesus, and Bad Jesus?! I'm presently modeling the concept of a Human-Deity who is a composite of the best of everyone -- throughout history. Is there some merit to this approach?? What Would Jesus Say??
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    Post  Carol Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:35 am

    magamud wrote:Mental illness more specifically schizophrenia is the consequence of our societal posture. This is why they present usually religious grandiose, narcissistic, etherial and position their perception unusually eccentric and hard to track. This analogy is the same with the poor.

    This is a tell to what Sin is and the magnitude of its consequences.

    Our species has fallen and the poor show this. This is why Jesus praises the poor and hungry and tell that the Rich have received their compensation already and how difficult it is to repent from Sin.

    Sin manifests itself as death.

    Read the Gospel....

    Schizophrenia is the result of a chemical brain imbalance. Since we have two sons (from different marriages) who are schizophrenic - we have first hand experience with this medical condition. The book Change Your Brain, Change your life by Dr. Danial Amen describes how certain areas of the brain may be over or under-active. This was determined by brain SPECT scans. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Amen

    All too often individuals have brain damage that results in various maladaptive behaviors which present themselves in a variety of manners. To make such a statement here as you have magamud is a bit misleading as your point cannot be validated once the medical evidence is presented. As I have a Ph.D. in Clinical Psych along with having to deal with two children who had real problems that were more genetic in nature pertaining to a medical condition I find your judgments invalid.

    To my way of thinking Satan is real just as Christ is real. This personal realization is based on real experiences. However, because we step beyond the rational mind to explore the supernatural it is easy enough to see how some individuals can wander down a path of misperception when it comes to speculation upon something they really know nothing about.

    I believe the actual word "sin" means to miss the mark. As one sins one moves further away from god. God is the mark. Again is we look at how our DNA is wrapped around light (the same stuff as the sun) one can see how the very nature of life itself is made in the image of god (star stuff). Then think of someone who has cancer where the light within the cells is turning off - dying.

    I recently read testimony from one woman who is raised up into heaven (frequently) where she explained how god wanted a family so he made souls to go out and become human beings so that they could then return back to him. To not sin means ones focus is on god and chooses of their own free will to return to the godhead via practicing the teachings of Christ. As Christ's message is one of love and never-ending compassion - in order to return back to god is basically accepting love as the foundation of life and rejecting death (Satan). As Satan wants to be worshiped he puts forth his own agenda of what is to be worshiped (ie porn, evil, love of violence, love of money for money's sake, adultry, murder (wars), etc). Just look at the recent headlines and look at all of the people doing crazy evil things. That's Satan's influence where he has control over various individual's minds and hearts. Much of our culture is now focused on evil as a good thing as compared to rejecting evil and embracing love. The unfortunate part of all of this is that when god returns (soon), whomever one worships is the one who will collect the soul during the harvest.

    Another perspective is just to say at whatever frequency a person resonates at is where they will end up. We know that light/love is a very high frequency vibration where as greed, fear and anger are not. So then how does one enter into a higher frequency? By using free will and the power of discernment to move toward the light and what it has to offer.


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    Post  magamud Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:09 am

    real problems that were more genetic in nature pertaining to a medical condition I find your judgments invalid.
    Sure from that context, I can see your position. So in that case, you think schizophrenia is entirely biological?
    Again from an "esoteric" posture this illness, if you want to call it that, is due to our schism from reality. Schizophrenia is the canary in the coal mine to warn us.

    However, because we step beyond the rational mind to explore the supernatural it is easy enough to see how some individuals can wander down a path of misperception when it comes to speculation upon something they really know nothing about.
    This is part of the gatekeeping our society is under. People do not venture out because of the problem you pointed out. It takes courage and is not easy. So yes we have a juggernaut of confusion.

    I believe the actual word "sin" means to miss the mark. As one sins one moves further away from god. God is the mark.
    This is true, the problem is people do not know what the mark is. Usually some variance of it and good sentiments, but not the flesh and blood of it. It winds up being more etherial and this causes the deception of a "Light Body".

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    n order to return back to god is basically accepting love as the foundation of life and rejecting death (Satan).
    As satan uses evil, he also uses Love on an equal basis. Knowing this is essential. This points to the light body deception if you get my drift.

    The unfortunate part of all of this is that when god returns (soon), whomever one worships is the one who will collect the soul during the harvest.
    This is not unfortunate, but the essence of righteousness. I get your point though, the delusion is strong. The problem here friend, is that no one knows what the Word is when they see it and our scientific mind wants its type of proof. Jesus tells of this many times with the blindness of the Pharisees.
    Also, God returning is always present, as you are Mortal. So this end time is just more of a motivator to what you should be doing anyways...


    So then how does one enter into a higher frequency?
    Remember Satan uses love and hate. So in your context I would assume Satan is in the higher and lower frequencies. Its the balance of both to where "he" is.

    13 “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.
    Matthew 7:13-14

    I appreciate your takes Carol and thanks for the contrast. Biologically speaking one will always find the reciprocation of mind on the body, but this is not the beginning of all things. It is putting the mind in the foundation of things that will matter.


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    Post  magamud Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:21 am

    What Would Jesus Say??
    The son, the father and the holy ghost are the workings of consciousness. I would compare it to a good settler with his own land trying to build a family under the wild, wild West.
    Using his power to control things is the last priority. This is the essence of parables, but its no game intended. The problem is we have fallen so far that we have forgot the workings of the world. Parables are due to the love God has for you. You as an individual in consciousness.

    So what we have is a very simple truth, covered in a mud of lies. This is a very difficult thing as the truth is simple, but our minds and society are very complex.
    Babylon....
    I hope that helps Ortho...
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    Post  Brook Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:32 am

    I had a little convo with Jesus... Actually he came to me.

    In that convo we had...several things were addressed. One...he does not like being remembered on the cross. Understandable I suppose.

    One other thing he addressed was thanking me for destroying something I thought was vulgar and vile. It was a cross with him hanging on it...and a serpent holding him on it....claws dug into him and looking over him.

    That was why he came to me in the first place to thank me for the gesture of destroying it. Lionhawk and I smashed it to smithereens.

    Boy was I surprised when he showed up in my session. Just goes to show you...the smallest deeds don't go unnoticed eh?


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    Post  magamud Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:38 am

    the smallest deeds don't go unnoticed eh?


    The Cross is the beginning of all things. It is the essence and binary choice all must make eventually on who they are. This is the burden we all carry. Jesus died to tell us this.

    Now the corruption of the Sons light is the confusion. Its good to tear the lies of his being down, the problem is the Empire is so huge that people tear the whole thing down, but its essence is still there.

    So are you rejoicing in the destruction or the resurrection?


    Matthew 16:24
    Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me.


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    Post  Sanicle Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:39 am

    What a lovely blessing for you Brook! Not surprised by what you said though. That cross sounds like an abomination. Actually, one of the main things that stopped me going to church was hating to see him hanging on the cross like that and people actually thinking it was wonderful that he was. They were so thrilled that he did this 'for them'. So sick!!!

    I don't know if you know of Lipstick Mystic but I read lately that he pops in to see her at times also and was telling her that he totally dislikes the fact that in the Catholic Church they are trained to 'eat his flesh' (cannibalism) and drink his blood (vampirism). That he'd dislike that makes sense to me too. It's black magic, after all.

    It's so sad that his work has been corrupted in this way.
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    Post  Brook Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:41 am

    The conversation stands...twisting my words to say:

    So are you rejoicing in the destruction or the resurrection?

    Did yo miss something in my words? Apparently so.
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    Post  magamud Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:43 am

    Jesus died voluntarily to give the last thing of himself to break the Lie of satan.

    His blood and flesh is what you eat of everyday in life as it is life. Cannibalism would be the lie manifestation of this good deed...
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    Post  Brook Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:44 am

    Sanicle wrote:What a lovely blessing for you Brook! Not surprised by what you said though. That cross sounds like an abomination. Actually, one of the main things that stopped me going to church was hating to see him hanging on the cross like that and people actually thinking it was wonderful that he was. They were so thrilled that he did this 'for them'. So sick!!!

    I don't know if you know of Lipstick Mystic but I read lately that he pops in to see her at times also and was telling her that he totally dislikes the fact that in the Catholic Church they are trained to 'eat his flesh' (cannibalism) and drink his blood (vampirism). That he'd dislike that makes sense to me too. It's black magic, after all.

    It's so sad that his work has been corrupted in this way.

    Nope never heard of her. But the truth is ANYBODY can speak freely to Jesus. Have a real convo. He's a pretty amazing guy...I was honored at his presence.

    Anybody that tells you you can't speak freely to him or that he does not listen...is pulling your leg. He's one powerful spirit!! AMEN!

    And yes....drinking the blood and eating the body of Christ is a ritual.


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    Post  Carol Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:47 am

    magamud wrote:
    real problems that were more genetic in nature pertaining to a medical condition I find your judgments invalid.
    Sure from that context, I can see your position. So in that case, you think schizophrenia is entirely biological?
    Again from an "esoteric" posture this illness, if you want to call it that, is due to our schism from reality. Schizophrenia is the canary in the coal mine to warn us.

    I disagree. Schizophrenia is a medical condition. What is it to warn us about? That a chemical brain imbalance or dysfunction is going to kill one off? Your analogy is stretched a bit thin and really doesn't apply. It's one thing for someone to suffer from a breakdown due to emotional or physical trauma and quite another to be born with a predisposition as the result of genetics.

    However, because we step beyond the rational mind to explore the supernatural it is easy enough to see how some individuals can wander down a path of misperception when it comes to speculation upon something they really know nothing about.
    This is part of the gatekeeping our society is under. People do not venture out because of the problem you pointed out. It takes courage and is not easy. So yes we have a juggernaut of confusion.

    Indeed. I've often thought the the goal of one's spirit is to come to know itself as spirit which is far more then ego or the physical body. Sometimes it just takes conviction that there is something more then just the 5 senses. Or perhaps it's just curiosity that is innate that sets one on the path to discovery. Courage comes in the face of challenges one is presented with. To they step up to the plate and willing deal with the challenge or are the forced into facing the challenge due to circumstance? As children our curiosity is what propels us forward to explore and discover the world we live within. Is this not so? And later it is our curiosity that tends to embolden us to explore the transpersonal. However, some are thrown into the transpersonal as a result of out of body experiences resulting from various types of trauma. And then there are those (such as my mother) who used to have out of body experiences on a regular basis as a child and would often go about exploring in the realms available to her just as she explored the 3D realm while awake. So based on what I know from other family members personal spiritual experiences along with my own, once again I disagree with your conclusion.

    I believe the actual word "sin" means to miss the mark. As one sins one moves further away from god. God is the mark.
    This is true, the problem is people do not know what the mark is. Usually some variance of it and good sentiments, but not the flesh and blood of it. It winds up being more etherial and this causes the deception of a "Light Body".

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    n order to return back to god is basically accepting love as the foundation of life and rejecting death (Satan).
    As satan uses evil, he also uses Love on an equal basis. Knowing this is essential. This points to the light body deception if you get my drift.

    I don't get your drift.

    The unfortunate part of all of this is that when god returns (soon), whomever one worships is the one who will collect the soul during the harvest.
    This is not unfortunate, but the essence of righteousness. I get your point though, the delusion is strong. The problem here friend, is that no one knows what the Word is when they see it and our scientific mind wants its type of proof. Jesus tells of this many times with the blindness of the Pharisees.

    Those who have experienced Christ directly do know as illusion has been ripped away. My own experience with Jesus was so up close and personal that deception is clear to detect. One cannot forget the actual experience of complete emersion within the heart of Christ. I'm not one of those people who have memorized scripture and realized many years back that my primary driving force regarding knowing god was to have a direct experience. Therefore, I'm ignorant when it comes to quoting anything from the Bible and tend to work off the 10 Commandments (most of which I broke along the way, which was a good thing as it taught me compassion towards others who did the same). Were not here to judge but to discern. Discernment comes from experiencing life - mistakes and all. Only a child is without sin. As we sin (miss the mark) we come to know just how miserable one becomes as they stray further from the path of god's love and living a righteous life. It is through misery that one can also come to appreciate the gift that god gives us - god's love. The spirit within has an inate desire to return to the heart of god. It's just the ego and misperceptions that get in the way.


    So then how does one enter into a higher frequency?
    Remember Satan uses love and hate. So in your context I would assume Satan is in the higher and lower frequencies. Its the balance of both to where "he" is.

    One enters into the heart center and feels love. The spark of god is in our heart and by remembering who god is and who were are (a heart within a heart - my heart dwells within the heart of god) - we raise our frequency. Love - compassion becomes so profound that one just "is" love.

    13 “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.
    Matthew 7:13-14

    The narrow gate is to run through it like a small child. We are god's children. When Christ appeared to me I ran to his embrace as a small child would run to her father. When he wrapped his arms around me I was home. There is nothing as profound as finding ones way into that loving embrace.

    I appreciate your takes Carol and thanks for the contrast. Biologically speaking one will always find the reciprocation of mind on the body, but this is not the beginning of all things. It is putting the mind in the foundation of things that will matter.

    Actually it's putting the spirit in the foundation of things that will matter. That is unless you are referring to the mind as the mind of god.


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    Post  magamud Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:47 am

    Did yo miss something in my words? Apparently so.

    Jesus power is divided in the cross manifesting as Satan. Its good to know this....
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    Post  Brook Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:54 am

    CAROL SAID: Those who have experienced Christ directly do know as illusion has been ripped away. My own experience with Jesus was so up close and personal that deception is clear to detect. One cannot forget the actual experience of complete emersion within the heart of Christ. I'm not one of those people who have memorized scripture and realized many years back that my primary driving force regarding knowing god was to have a direct experience. Therefore, I'm ignorant when it comes to quoting anything from the Bible and tend to work off the 10 Commandments (most of which I broke along the way, which was a good thing as it taught me compassion towards others who did the same). Were not here to judge but to discern. Discernment comes from experiencing life - mistakes and all. Only a child is without sin. As we sin (miss the mark) we come to know just how miserable one becomes as they stray further from the path of god's love and living a righteous life. It is through misery that one can also come to appreciate the gift that god gives us - god's love. The spirit within has an inate desire to return to the heart of god. It's just the ego and misperceptions that get in the way.


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    Post  Sanicle Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:15 am

    magamud wrote:
    Did yo miss something in my words? Apparently so.

    Jesus power is divided in the cross manifesting as Satan. Its good to know this....

    IMHO Magamud, that's your interpretation of the Cross and possibly a rather narrow one. But then it's pointless debating with a religionist such as yourself so I'm bowing out. I love you
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    Post  magamud Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:16 am

    Indeed......
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    Post  magamud Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:56 pm

    4. Jesus said, "The person old in days won't hesitate to ask a little child seven days old about the place of life, and that person will live.

    For many of the first will be last, and will become a single one."
    GOT

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