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    Post  Carol Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:38 am

    Well I've just moved into the New Age Heretic camp. 2012 - all is well. Just the same-o, same-o. More economic woes; more wars and saber rattling; more political posturing and false promises as this is an election year; more earth changes with increase in CMEs, volcanic activity, earthquakes, winds, lots of rain, snow and floods; food shortages; higher costs for commodities, especially oil which will likely go up and over $5 gal here in Hawaii; increased anger from the populace world-wide with more OWS type of activities; lots of civil unrest with decrease in jobs, lack of money, continued foreclosures due to banksters ongoing heists via high charges on interest rates, unsustainable mortgage lending practices, excess fees for services, etc.; more technological advances; more interest by consumers to purchase electric vehicles or other modes of transportation that don't involve using oil; more advances in medicine and NO POLE SHIFT.

    As for the galactic wave. Who knows?

    damn, damn and triple damn.... just lost the rest of this post! Argh


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    Post  lawlessline Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:41 am

    Floyd wrote:ah yes another video for the full of crap files. Excellent


    Man I caan't help it, it is greater than me. When she says there are things "we would like to live down in life" automatically I think she is talking about some dodgy 1980's porn movie. I appologies to Miss Thomas for that. But I remember her from her Aliens blowing up the missile off Calif.

    I have to go through this list and see what has come up already before adding has beens that have been on the list already.
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    Post  Floyd Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:43 am

    Yes Carol, the large majority of it is complete and utter bollocks.

    Back to basics!
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    Post  Floyd Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:47 am

    I think this bunch of dodgy looking beings belong in 'The full of Carp Files'
    Definitely something fishy going on.
    They believe in the existence of one almighty Cod and that man has a sole.

    sorry.

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    Post  Carol Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:52 am

    Well there is Patrick Gerly who I think is full of it but I do respect Paul LaViolette. Cliff High comes off with the worst case of possible doom scenarios and is building his boat in Washington waiting for the super tsunami. Why doesn't he just relocate to a higher elevation?

    And then we have all of the building going on underground preparing for the solar kill shot predicted by Dr. Ed Dames Doom himself. There is no doubt in my mind that earth will likely get hit by a CME/solar flare that happened back in 1823. (The prediction, published in a report at www.spaceweather.com, continues: “The panel predicts the upcoming Solar Cycle 24 will peak in May 2013 with a daily sunspot number of 90.) http://www.spaceweather.com/headlines/y2009/08may_noaaprediction.php?PHPSESSID=msmd0cr08oiagplf6hbbaaecv6

    So there is that. But we're not sure where this will hit. At least the general population doesn't know but bloody likely some in the secret governments who are involved in time travel know.


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    Post  Floyd Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:02 am

    Carol wrote:Well there is Patrick Gerly who I think is full of it but I do respect Paul LaViolette. Cliff High comes off with the worst case of possible doom scenarios and is building his boat in Washington waiting for the super tsunami. Why doesn't he just relocate to a higher elevation?

    And then we have all of the building going on underground preparing for the solar kill shot predicted by Dr. Ed Dames Doom himself. There is no doubt in my mind that earth will likely get hit by a CME/solar flare that happened back in 1823. (The prediction, published in a report at www.spaceweather.com, continues: “The panel predicts the upcoming Solar Cycle 24 will peak in May 2013 with a daily sunspot number of 90.) http://www.spaceweather.com/headlines/y2009/08may_noaaprediction.php?PHPSESSID=msmd0cr08oiagplf6hbbaaecv6

    So there is that. But we're not sure where this will hit. At least the general population doesn't know but bloody likely some in the secret governments who are involved in time travel know.

    Well I think maintaining a sensible level of preparedness is not unwise. We do live on a planet facing ecological disaster and possible fiscal collapse and you can throw in a bit of military shenanigans into the equation. But that is not a conspiracy, it is a harsh reality. Geryl is heavy duty fear on a big time scale.

    Wonder what the carp make of it all?
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    Post  Carol Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:17 am

    Here's some. Why not ask them?





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    Post  Floyd Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:29 am

    They say they would be quite happy with a massive water deluge as they would have more room to swim.

    I think its quite shellfish, I mean selfish of them.

    Bu the way if you missed it peeps scroll up a few pages and read Brooks diligent report on the 9 and the Galactic Federation.

    Please do continue to add more candidates to the full of crap files.
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    Post  malletzky Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:08 pm

    I would not have to say much about the beginning of the channeling as we know it to exist today, I have just done non to less research about this anyway.

    But what I wanted to highlight, is the quote bellow given from Sarfatti himself and to be found in Brooks long post few pages before:

    The universe did not come into being randomly by chance. The universe is created by intelligent design. There is a God, but that God evolves from us. That is the deep meaning of the Bible's story of Abraham's Covenant with God. God travels back in time6 to engineer the Big Bang explosion creating time in an amazingly precise way that ensures that we and God will evolve. Man's role in the universe is vital. We are part of the quantum process that brings the universe into being

    Few thoughts about this:

    This would implicate and suggest that God he's speaking about, that created the universe as we know it and perceive it, all of a sudden changed his/her mind and traveled back to back engineer the universe shortly after the probable Big Bang. Traveled back how? And when?

    Was the universe becomming way "toooo Biiiig" for that God to start changing the developing of that new existence (universe) from a given "time point in the space"???

    Sarfatti speaks somewhere about fractals (circle in circle in circle...). Well, for the real God who realy created the existence, it would have been the easiest way to go to the other, smaller side of the infinity (see Nassim Haramein and his perfect explanation of the infinity of the point in his Crossing the Event Horizont videos) and change the past into the future.

    Just go within and change the outside. So sipmple as that.

    This once again implicates that that God was not able to go within until the point Zero, but had to invent going back in time (and space, as he claims that the universe should have have the extent of an atom when this change happened) in order to change something.

    This only suggest that whatever was changed, it was not the original "Density Matrix" (or source field, or or or...). And this is probably the cause of that many paralel universes (existences) when a change was succesful. But obviously, all these paralel universes are just a sort of sinthetyc, a "design" or bad copy of the Original. Whos says that we're not living trapped in one of these paralel universes (if there are realy some)? [(And I guess, the connection to the creation as presented in all religious books should be obvious by now?)]

    All of this only further suggests that that God is NOT the creator of the probable Big Bang nor of the existence.

    So what is all this about?

    I mean, I do not doubt at all that there are techniques and devices produced which allows brain washing and mind manipulation from it's finest.

    And that sentence alone God travels back in time6 to engineer the Big Bang explosion creating time in an amazingly precise way that ensures that we and God will evolve. has a lot to do with mind controll. But, I find that sentence to be BS from it's finest, I have to be honest here.

    Oh boy, that stinks. Realy stinks.

    WHAT are they trying to sell us here?

    Diclaimer: The Above presented is only my thoughts (are they mine scratch ??), I was just getting in that phylosophical mood again, and to be honest once again, I missed that part of me Crazy Happy

    Did you follow me and my thoughts?

    Much respect
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    Post  Brook Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:16 pm

    Yep..your getting it now.....he believes this as he claims to have gotten a call from himself in the future. Hence the reference is very important to realize in his "work"..and how it reflects in some of the channeling and the results of the experiments that have been done via this 'group". And of course why in fact they were using this for the purpose of gaining access to certain "knowing" regarding the aspects of WAR. ie the COLD WAR.
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    Post  malletzky Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:23 pm

    Btw, many of you will remember TheChosen, a former member of the original PA forum. He once started a thread called:

    A guide to channeling that really works... 100% guarantee.. really! (NB: TIA joke!)

    which I still find amazing after all these years. Here's an excerpt, more in the link above.

    Ok.. first you have to clear your mind.. lift your vibrations ... and just make stuff up... and you are good to go. With any luck very few will be able to tell that you haven't got a clue of what the hell you are talking about as long as you stick to this generic channeling template which I am about to give you. You'll be getting yourself an audience in no time... Here we go...


    Change slightly your voice .. deeper and slower... (If it is a video.. otherwise make sure to use some real cool and lovable pictures that you find on the internet .. see operation terra for inspiration)

    Part 1 - Introduce the topic

    We are using this opportunity to bring this very important message to all that will listen as time is growing short - Of course its important, its about the survival of the entire human race after all, you can even insert some bible quotes here for added effect to suck in some religious people.. but not too much lest you be branded religious yourself . The time should always be short.. but not too short .. 1-2 years is a safe distance .. but never ever specify until much later when you really have to give out at least something.

    Part 2 - Identify your source

    I am an energy being that has been involved with the affairs of this planet since the times of Egypt - Now....

    Pretty amazing.

    Much respect
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    Post  Brook Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:28 pm

    malletzky wrote:Btw, many of you will remember TheChosen, a former member of the original PA forum. He once started a thread called:

    A guide to channeling that really works... 100% guarantee.. really! (NB: TIA joke!)

    which I still find amazing after all these years. Here's an excerpt, more in the link above.

    Ok.. first you have to clear your mind.. lift your vibrations ... and just make stuff up... and you are good to go. With any luck very few will be able to tell that you haven't got a clue of what the hell you are talking about as long as you stick to this generic channeling template which I am about to give you. You'll be getting yourself an audience in no time... Here we go...


    Change slightly your voice .. deeper and slower... (If it is a video.. otherwise make sure to use some real cool and lovable pictures that you find on the internet .. see operation terra for inspiration)

    Part 1 - Introduce the topic

    We are using this opportunity to bring this very important message to all that will listen as time is growing short - Of course its important, its about the survival of the entire human race after all, you can even insert some bible quotes here for added effect to suck in some religious people.. but not too much lest you be branded religious yourself . The time should always be short.. but not too short .. 1-2 years is a safe distance .. but never ever specify until much later when you really have to give out at least something.

    Part 2 - Identify your source

    I am an energy being that has been involved with the affairs of this planet since the times of Egypt - Now....

    Pretty amazing.

    Much respect
    Mall...

    Yes...that's something all together different but still very relevant to this thread....yep!
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    Post  Floyd Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:26 pm

    malletzky wrote:Btw, many of you will remember TheChosen, a former member of the original PA forum. He once started a thread called:

    A guide to channeling that really works... 100% guarantee.. really! (NB: TIA joke!)

    which I still find amazing after all these years. Here's an excerpt, more in the link above.

    Ok.. first you have to clear your mind.. lift your vibrations ... and just make stuff up... and you are good to go. With any luck very few will be able to tell that you haven't got a clue of what the hell you are talking about as long as you stick to this generic channeling template which I am about to give you. You'll be getting yourself an audience in no time... Here we go...


    Change slightly your voice .. deeper and slower... (If it is a video.. otherwise make sure to use some real cool and lovable pictures that you find on the internet .. see operation terra for inspiration)

    Part 1 - Introduce the topic

    We are using this opportunity to bring this very important message to all that will listen as time is growing short - Of course its important, its about the survival of the entire human race after all, you can even insert some bible quotes here for added effect to suck in some religious people.. but not too much lest you be branded religious yourself . The time should always be short.. but not too short .. 1-2 years is a safe distance .. but never ever specify until much later when you really have to give out at least something.

    Part 2 - Identify your source

    I am an energy being that has been involved with the affairs of this planet since the times of Egypt - Now....




    Another way of looking at this is that the poster is offering an opportunity for someone to connect with an astral entity or vampire. I would recommend that no one try it.

    Many channelers do just that. Sometimes it comes to them involuntarily.


    In occult lodges they have more complex methods of evoking disincarnate entities and from what I understand if you don't protect yourself it can have dire consequences.

    It seems that some forms of consciousness that reside on the astral are not so vile. Much of it depends on the psychic (consciousness) constitution of the individual that brings it through.

    That is why we have messages channeled with content from the likes of Collen Thomas and others mentioned on this thread have provided.

    It is not particularly useful.
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    Post  Floyd Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:27 pm

    Carol wrote: Cliff High comes off with the worst case of possible doom scenarios and is building his boat in Washington waiting for the super tsunami. Why doesn't he just relocate to a higher elevation?



    He really is full of crap.
    Below from his website

    NOT for small children or weak minded individuals. Only real pie eaters should read this report.

    Published:September 19, 2011

    To purchase with a check or money order, send EMAIL address and check/mo for $10 payable to:



    Truly disgusting and a vehicle for the Dark Ones.
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    Post  Floyd Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:56 am

    Getting back to WilCock and his channeling. He sent a book THE REINCARNATION OF EDGAR CAYCE?
    Interdimensional Communication & Global Transformation by Wynn Free with David Wilcock to be reviewed by Edgar Cayce expert William Hutton.

    Hutton was a little bemused to recieve a book from someone claiming to be the reincarnation of Edgar Cayce and as he studied he found it deeply flawed. First up is Wilcock was channeling the same groups soul known as ra that Wilcock calls source. Here is what Hutton says about that

    Thus, Free and Wilcock are saying that Cayce’s source for his readings was none other than a group soul that identified itself as Ra.

    'The level of scholarship displayed by F&W is severely tested here. My own studies of Cayce’s early readings, given at a time when his friends and relatives were asking sleeping Cayce about the source of his information, is quite different from F&W’s conjecture. As explained in the book, Earth’s Catastrophic Past and Future, A Scientific Analysis of Information Channeled By Edgar Cayce,(Hutton, W., and J. C. Eagle, 2004, Universal Publishers, 500 pp.), and on the Hutton Commentaries web site, Cayce was able to access around 12 sources for his readings. And in stark contrast to Free’s claim above, a search of the CD-ROM that contains 14,000-plus Cayce readings yields no instance in which Cayce identified the origin of the material in any of his readings as the “Source.”'


    He goes on to say

    "As for F&W’s conjecture that Cayce’s source of his psychic information was a group soul that identified itself as Ra, reading 294-151 tells a completely different story relative to the origin and use of the name Ra."

    Wyn and Wilcock were also incorrect in their view that the word channel was not used in Cayce's time

    Obviously Wilcock is a channel. He defines himself as such. I don't believe the word "channel" was used during the lifetime of Cayce. Says wilcock and Wyn.

    "{Mr. Free is in error here. A check of the CD-ROM shows that there are 3,568 occurrences of the word “channel,” in 2,369 readings-related documents on the CD. Of course, many of these occurrences have nothing to do with Cayce's psychic channeling ability and Free is referring to the use of the term channel as it would have been applied to Cayce when giving his readings. Here follows one of many examples of such psychic channeling usage, from Cayce reading 288-29."

    There is more yo can reed in this excellent review below where he takes Wilcock to pieces
    http://www.huttoncommentaries.com/article.php?category=6&article=81.


    Wilcock now distances himself from claims that he is Edgar Cayce's reincarnation most probably after this review made him look somewhat foolish. However on his old website Ascension 2000 before it became Divine Cosmos there are many references to his claims of being Cayce version 1.1. Typical of many channelers are the grandiose claims to being the reincarnation of someone famous. You know, Socrates, Pythogoras, Ashoka, high priest of Atlantis. Its never Ingrid Helmstdatblumenburg a florist from Malmo or someone we have never heard of. A reflection of ego problems and delusions of grandeur.

    Here is his original site though sadly many pages are gone so we cannot inspect all of them.
    http://web.archive.org/web/19990508172312/http://www.ascension2000.com/


    Of another channeler the equally fraudulent misinformationist Nancy Lieder he (Wilcock) had this to say over her faulty 2003 pole shift prediction (before which she recommended that we all kill our pets I kid you not)

    "Unfortunately, Nancy Leider, the channel for Zeta Talk, has not admitted
    that her May 15, 2003 date was fraudulent. Now her website address has
    apparently changed to www.nepanews.com, probably in an attempt to reduce
    the number of flames and hate-mail, and in her supposed trance state the
    Zetas admit that they told a "white lie" for our own good.
    "

    http://divinecosmos.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-3777.html

    Here is a man criticizing someone for making false predictions then changing the name of her website when it didnt happen. Something he is very good at and did himself. Total hypocrisy. Pot. Kettle. Black.

    His repeated claims have failed to materialise. My own view is that he does nothing original, simply collating the material of others and presenting them in drawn out tedious video presentations or workshops in comfortable hotels. Even the only thing that could be original of his, his channelings, belong to someone else. The Ra of Edgar Cayce, though most likely it is an astral phantom. You can tell the by the abysmally poor quality of the content.

    Finally he has the audacity to ask his followers for donations of up to $5000 which is ludicrous. $5000 for lies
    http://divinecosmos.com/amember/signup.php#8


    So Here we have kerry Cassidy promoting Hoaxland with his non existent invisible piloted comets, Wilcrook who will keep predicting disclosure and pole shifts every 4 weeks, and another con merchant Anna Hayes of Guardian Alliance fame who will charge you extortionate amounts of money for some of the worst dribble I have ever had the misfortune to read. She (Cassidy) is doing her own followers a great disservice by promoting these numpties and I would hope that people have cottoned on by now and dont listen to a word any of then say.

    Unless you feel like a good laugh of course.

    True contenders all four of them for the Disinfo 'Full of Crap files'




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    Post  Floyd Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:28 am

    Earth Very Soon to Shift Its Position

    http://web.archive.org/web/19991002055522/http://www.ascension2000.com/2.23Prophecy.html


    Wilcock prediction 1999



    Another way of saying that would be..something big is going to happen at one point some time in the future.

    TRANCOSO could predict that with much greater accuracy.

    Total Bollocks


    This is from the same article and Its hilarious.



    I then saw Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman as a couple, walking past this scene. Cruise had a drying vomit stain above his left eyebrow and on his cheek. He had a white shirt on that was also soaking wet. As they continued walking, Nicole asked him to please not throw up like everyone else had. He promised her that he wouldn't.


    And then, the nausea overtook him, and he started to vomit. I saw this action occurring in very real, grotesque slow motion. As this happened, music was playing that was actually quite upbeat. A popular female artist sang a new, unique song that went, "Look into my eyes and you'll see." (Note: This seems to be a reference to "seeking the face of the Christ" in order to see the truth.) He simply turned his head to the side, continuing to walk as it came out of him. Nicole wasn't aware of it. Then, they seemed to merge into one being, and she herself was vomiting as they continued walking as One. She was actually talking to him, now merged into herself, in between spurts, and was not apparently aware of what was happening. None of the vomit seemed to be landing on them as they walked as One.

    As I lay in bed and dictated this dream, I tried to make sense out of it. There obviously was an analogy to Mother Earth "vomiting," possibly indicating volcanic / tectonic activity, and the fact that even though it would happen, it was still okay. At one point on the tape, I said, "I think this has something to do with an imminent disaster, possibly occurring in New York."


    He seems to be fantasizing about Nicole Kidman and Tom Cruise projectile vomiting all over him.

    That is one seriously messed up dude
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    Post  Micjer Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:48 am

    What a coincidence. Willcrook's predictions make me want to vomit.

    Floyd your second last post touched on another fraud. Nancy Leider and the Zeta talk. George Noory wouldn't even have her back on Coast to Coast it was that bad! Suspect
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    Post  Sanicle Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:48 am

    Floyd wrote:

    Another way of looking at this is that the poster is offering an opportunity for someone to connect with an astral entity or vampire. I would recommend that no one try it.

    Many channelers do just that. Sometimes it comes to them involuntarily.


    In occult lodges they have more complex methods of evoking disincarnate entities and from what I understand if you don't protect yourself it can have dire consequences.

    It seems that some forms of consciousness that reside on the astral are not so vile. Much of it depends on the psychic (consciousness) constitution of the individual that brings it through.

    That is why we have messages channeled with content from the likes of Collen Thomas and others mentioned on this thread have provided.

    It is not particularly useful.

    I'm wondering if it's not always just "astral entities" or "vampires" that channelers channel and mostly seem to get into trouble with eventually. I'm seriously wondering if it's more to do with the mind control programs the ETs have, working hand in hand with the ptw, as Brook has suggested. One could say the Matrix, or astral net they have over the planet. It's oft been said that these beings can pick out a person who's awakening easily and target them, especially when they open up to meditate, which channelers often do and which leads to hearing these 'voices'.

    I know this in having been there myself, obviously, and I've had reason to believe that the last 'voice' I've been listening to is taking me down that slippery slope once more. They always start out so good and then.... Shocked Crying or Very sad Mad 3 So I've been taking what's being said on this thread very seriously and, as a result I think, had a dream about it all today that I've found to be quite shocking but maybe instructional as well. I'll precis it as best I can here.

    I was with a being whom I'm sure was not human. She (I think) was showing me a vast computer system they use, wanting me to plug into the next section they'd chosen for me to learn from. There were banks of little computer screens, all titled. Once you'd 'watched' one lesson, it would automatically move into the next lesson. The particular program she wanted me to start with was called, "The Value of Wood Games".

    I'd learned prior to this that there were two parts to this vast computer system and that I'd previously been hooked into the other one. That's one they plug your consciousness into to take you off on, what they see as, harmless learning experiences so as to keep your mind and being occupied so you don't interfere in their work with the planet, we being seen as too unevolved to participate. So we are treated like children who are given computer games to play while they get on with the more serious 'adult' stuff they do without us getting in their hair, so to speak.

    The computer system is vast, having different programs to suit every type of person on every different level of intellect. They assess you and then just hook you into the part of a program that suits your interests, intellectual and emotional makeup, making it involved enough to keep you fully occupied.

    The reason I was being shown the second computer system is that I'd been hooked up to the one described above, but I'd seen through the illusion of it all, so now this being was patiently explaining to me that the illusion was not a complete waste of time and was actually instructional, meant to help me grow and evolve. This second computer system she wanted me to hook into now was there for those who had woken up to the trick, each section designed to show you what lesson they'd tried to teach you in the illusory part and why it was good for you.


    So there you go. Just a dream? I wouldn't be at all surprised, after all I've read, to find out that it's factual. Thoughts anyone?
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    Post  Floyd Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:52 am

    Micjer wrote:What a coincidence. Willcrook's predictions make me want to vomit.

    lol!
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    Post  Floyd Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:10 am

    Sanicle wrote:
    I'm wondering if it's not always just "astral entities" or "vampires" that channelers channel and mostly seem to get into trouble with eventually.

    My hunch is that The universe is populated by many beings of consciousness that have evolved to greater extent than humanity.

    It is not implausible that some telepathically received messages are from benevolent beings of evolved consciousness. By the same token malignant entities can also manipulate human consciousness. Call them aliens if you like. There are banishing rituals that can be done for those that really do want to communicate with beings that reside on other planes. The astral plane, where the astral body persists, or what Indian religious philosophy calls the linga saria is populated by ghosts and reflections that are more than happy to provide any willing or unwilling for that matter human with varying degrees of gibberish. There are many good examples of that out there.

    Ive known several channelers personally and I have a friend who is a channeler who is really down to earth and I find her messages very inoffensive. I am not a channeler myself.
    A lot of channelers are saying different things and are in total disagreement with each other.
    Having said that my own opinion would be to say that the majority of channeled information (as in the case of Wilcocks) is totally worthless.

    I dont think channeling is part of an orchestrated mind control programme. It (channeling) has been going on for centuries though im sure malignant agencies would be delighted to use such techniques into tricking the human ego that something was there when there wasnt. Im sure that kind of stuff goes on. Experimentation and suchlike.

    As the vast majority of the worlds population care not about channeling or channelers I dont think it would be an effective method of global mind control. The simple truth is that the so called 'new age movement' is not as influential as many believe. Its adherents (though it is not a religion) amount to a puny number in comparison to the major religion and the amount of agnostics and atheists out there. It really is quite insignificant.

    There are good guys out there in the various realms of existence too and the bad guys wont have it all their own way.

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    Post  Sanicle Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:43 am

    I understand what you're saying Floyd and used to see it much the same way myself. But now that I've learned the neg ETs have been around for thousands of years and that they've likely set the New Age Movement off in league with the government after realizing the traditional religions are losing power with so many people, and also in knowing that the time is ripe for many to 'wake up' to the higher dimensions, I see setting this computer system up as just clever foresight on their behalf...IF it's true. But then there's been talk of a Matrix for a long time now too.

    For the many who are into the esoteric now, what better way to get the messages of fear about coming events out there, and what better way to sow delusion in the 'awakened ones' and also the public who listen to them, wanting to make similar connection to 'higher beings' themselves, than making wrong predictions through them. From what I've learned over the years, sucking people in with initial truthful messages is the way the 'Dark Side' usually work to gain a strong connection with their 'victims'. Only what I saw as the 'Dark Side' in the past I now see more as neg ETs and their minions.

    I actually feel sorry for some of these channelers when it all goes wrong for them and they have huge audiences wanting more. But I don't feel sorry for them when their egos keep them doing it, knowing it's a charade, just for the money, fame and glory. IE, the 'Dark Side' has won, and they and we are all the worse off for it.
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    Post  Brook Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:00 am

    Floyd wrote:Earth Very Soon to Shift Its Position

    http://web.archive.org/web/19991002055522/http://www.ascension2000.com/2.23Prophecy.html


    Wilcock prediction 1999



    Another way of saying that would be..something big is going to happen at one point some time in the future.

    TRANCOSO could predict that with much greater accuracy.

    Total Bollocks


    This is from the same article and Its hilarious.



    I then saw Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman as a couple, walking past this scene. Cruise had a drying vomit stain above his left eyebrow and on his cheek. He had a white shirt on that was also soaking wet. As they continued walking, Nicole asked him to please not throw up like everyone else had. He promised her that he wouldn't.


    And then, the nausea overtook him, and he started to vomit. I saw this action occurring in very real, grotesque slow motion. As this happened, music was playing that was actually quite upbeat. A popular female artist sang a new, unique song that went, "Look into my eyes and you'll see." (Note: This seems to be a reference to "seeking the face of the Christ" in order to see the truth.) He simply turned his head to the side, continuing to walk as it came out of him. Nicole wasn't aware of it. Then, they seemed to merge into one being, and she herself was vomiting as they continued walking as One. She was actually talking to him, now merged into herself, in between spurts, and was not apparently aware of what was happening. None of the vomit seemed to be landing on them as they walked as One.

    As I lay in bed and dictated this dream, I tried to make sense out of it. There obviously was an analogy to Mother Earth "vomiting," possibly indicating volcanic / tectonic activity, and the fact that even though it would happen, it was still okay. At one point on the tape, I said, "I think this has something to do with an imminent disaster, possibly occurring in New York."


    He seems to be fantasizing about Nicole Kidman and Tom Cruise projectile vomiting all over him.

    That is one seriously messed up dude

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    Post  Floyd Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:04 am

    Sanicle wrote:I understand what you're saying Floyd and used to see it much the same way myself. But now that I've learned the neg ETs have been around for thousands of years and that they've likely set the New Age Movement off in league with the government after realizing the traditional religions are losing power with so many people, and also in knowing that the time is ripe for many to 'wake up' to the higher dimensions, I see setting this computer system up as just clever foresight on their behalf...IF it's true. But then there's been talk of a Matrix for a long time now too.

    For the many who are into the esoteric now, what better way to get the messages of fear about coming events out there, and what better way to sow delusion in the 'awakened ones' and also the public who listen to them, wanting to make similar connection to 'higher beings' themselves, than making wrong predictions through them. From what I've learned over the years, sucking people in with initial truthful messages is the way the 'Dark Side' usually work to gain a strong connection with their 'victims'. Only what I saw as the 'Dark Side' in the past I now see more as neg ETs and their minions.

    I actually feel sorry for some of these channelers when it all goes wrong for them and they have huge audiences wanting more. But I don't feel sorry for them when their egos keep them doing it, knowing it's a charade, just for the money, fame and glory. IE, the 'Dark Side' has won, and they and we are all the worse off for it.

    For me im not one to worry about ETs or the threat of the New Age etc. Having spent several years studying the history of the so called 'new age movement' I dont see it as a threat. Most of the propaganda against the new age movement (which is actually a higgledy piggledy collection of sometimes not even closley related groups and societies) stems from Zionist and Jewish and Christian groups who have a passionate hatred for Alice Bailey who calls the Jews the solar plexus of humanity and a problem that needed solving. ie, the end of Judaism. And for that matter Papal and organised Christianity. Given that Zionists groups are believed to be behind the New World Order and the UN i find it highly unlikely they have any love for the Lucis Trust. In fact they dont. The membership of the Lucis Trust is elderly and its funds are drying up as no younger members are joining so its become a bit of an elephants grave yard. As is the Thesosophical Society which Peter Washington, in his excellent critique of Theosophy is totally harmless, "having more in common with the Womens Institute and anti vivisection than global ambitions" He is quite correct. its membership is disappearing and it is running out of money after all the donations from the dying members dry up.
    The notion that there is a new age conspiracy for me is zionist propaganda though i do certainly agree that the 'movement is populated by frauds, agents and misinformants and that most of it is complete and utter bollocks.

    Many other new age groups like the two above are eternally fighting with each other over petty nonsense. There is no new age church or creed. It is completely disjointed and most people get bored of it after a few years. It is not a united movement. Not all of them agree about 2012 either. The TS in England issued a statement on their website saying it was a load of nonsense.

    For me then, there is no threat from a new super religion. The only threat and danger to this planet and its inhabitants are human beings. And not just the zionists and the ones in power.
    These are just my own thoughts and no doubt others will have their own take. But believe me, the stuff about the global new age movement is bullshit. I wrote my dissertation on it. And passed! study Just about!

    I leave the fear to one side. Its bad for your health.


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    Post  Floyd Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:05 am

    Brook that old website is just soooo baaaaaad
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    Post  Brook Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:08 am

    Oh yeah!...Where was the Damned intervention on 9/11 he speaks of here regarding political arenas? When this was written in 1999?!?

    Archive in the older, deeper sections, and we will indeed see the different orientation of what we had originally started out with. Ra says that it is sensible, if not practical, to assume that the governing body of the celestial forces will directly intervene in the event of any large-scale crisis. You need only reveal the full extent of the hardship that you now face and make an earnest request for assistance. It is through free will that such intervention is then realized.

    http://web.archive.org/web/19991128160803/http://ascension2000.com/7.31.99.htm

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