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    Post  orthodoxymoron Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:10 am

    I don't settle on any particular personality or ideology. I sometimes listen to Alex Jones -- and I like his documentaries -- but I try not to get into the 'NWO Scum -- Megaphone Mentality' if you know what I mean?? I think we need to have a multi-personality and multi-disciplinary approach to esoteric and conspiracy research -- which includes Bible-Study!!
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    Post  magamud Mon Jun 18, 2012 6:58 am

    Well the Devil is the puppet master. This energy translates into a force or a matrix that we are immersed in. The lie is very deep which leads to your soul. So in essence I can thank the devil for leading me there...

    The devil uses the universes architecture and concepts to redirect you from the Father. Such as New age philosophy for example. More specific the idea of existence is nothing. This is a step in understanding creation but not the end to it all. When someone is immersed in various new age esoteric teachings it triggers emotional good feeling and power that elevate, but this is just a step in the ladder.
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    Post  Micjer Sat Jul 07, 2012 4:35 pm





    "DDT" CAMPAIGNS

    "DDT" stands for "Decoy, Distract and Trash." The idea is that they put out information that is similar to the truth, but is not the truth. This information is a "decoy" that will "distract" people from the real information.

    Then, the "trash" part is that the decoy information is attacked.

    Generally the information will include obvious holes that the original investigator did not take time to uncover, in his or her breathless enthusiasm to go public.

    Then, if the real information ever comes out, people will not notice the difference, and think it must all now be fake.



    This is the only information from David Wilcock that actually makes sense lately.
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    Post  Floyd Sun Jul 08, 2012 6:27 am

    Micjer wrote:

    This is the only information from David Wilcock that actually makes sense lately.

    Ironic since Wilcock serves up mostly trash though its not that we didnt know this decoy tactic before. Hes a bit late on that one. He is very unoriginal, He's good at marketing, terrible at predictions though and not as important as he thinks he is.

    magamud wrote:Well the Devil is the puppet master.

    Now the 'devil' that famous non existent invention is most certainly qualified for exclusive membership in the full of crap files along with the other tall stories and deceptions.

    Happy days.

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    Post  malletzky Sun Jul 08, 2012 7:42 am

    Floyd wrote:

    Now the 'devil' that famous non existent invention is most certainly qualified for exclusive membership in the full of crap files along with the other tall stories and deceptions.

    Happy days.


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    Post  Carol Sun Jul 08, 2012 10:56 am

    You mean Paul Bunion is just a fable and not based on stories of real giants? We should probably throw Jack and the Bean Stock in here as well. Insanely Happy


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    Post  Micjer Sun Aug 12, 2012 8:38 am

    Looks like we can add the false flag for the olympics now. Glad nothing happened but tired of the bullocks.
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    Post  mudra Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:50 pm

    Sorcha Faal aka David Booth

    Arrow http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorcha_Faal

    Known sites run by Sorcha Faal / David Booth:

    http://WhatDoesItMean.com/

    Known sites that Sorcha Faal / David Booth writes for:

    http://EUTimes.net/

    http://FreedomFighterRadio.net/

    http://FourWinds10.com/

    Love Always
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    Post  Floyd Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:34 pm

    mudra wrote:Sorcha Faal aka David Booth

    Arrow http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorcha_Faal

    Known sites run by Sorcha Faal / David Booth:

    http://WhatDoesItMean.com/

    Known sites that Sorcha Faal / David Booth writes for:

    http://EUTimes.net/

    http://FreedomFighterRadio.net/

    http://FourWinds10.com/

    Love Always
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    Post  magamud Sat Aug 25, 2012 5:04 pm

    Thinking any religion, culture, race or color has matter to the question.

    Eugenics is useless....
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    Post  Floyd Tue Oct 16, 2012 5:32 am

    One of the legendary fear profiteers and one of the worlds leading pseudo scientists. Famous for his books on dieting in Belgium apparently.

    Run for yer lives everyone...its the Numpty of Numpties, the one...the only...the clueless..Mr....... Patrick Geryl

    Nope

    Geryl claims that:

    In the year 2012 the Earth awaits a super catastrophe: its magnetic field will completely reverse in one go. Phenomenal earthquakes and tidal waves will destroy our civilization. Europe and North-America will shift thousands of kilometers northward and end up in a polar clime. Nearly the whole Earth's population will perish in the apocalyptic events.2

    The cause of this massive destruction?

    "A very HIGH sunspot is expected in 2012…when that happens… a huge… an enormous… a gargantic…a gargantuan solar flare will be thrown to the Earth and will destroy our civilization."3

    Dresden Codex

    Geryl and his co-author Ratinck claim that they were able to read and decipher parts of the Dresden Codex4 and that they discovered that the old Egyptians and the ancient Maya were both descendants of Atlantis. If this sounds familiar, it should. It was originally proposed in the 1882 pseudo-archeology book Atlantis: The Antedeluvian World by Ignatius Donnelly5.
    Solar Eruption to Polar Shift

    On this basis, Geryl and Ratinck came to the conclusion that in 2012, between December 19th and 21st, there will be a massive solar eruption that will reach the Earth within a few hours, that the Earth will be surrounded by a cloud of plasma, that the cloud of plasma will have a magnetic field in a different orientation than that of the Earth, and that in response the core of the earth will be deflected by the magnetic field, turning under the crust until it arrives at a different orientation. However, since the rotation of the core and the crust would then be in different directions, massive earthquakes and other phenomena would occur.

    The theory refers to its own research and calculations, and predictions which were claimed to have been made by the Maya and ancient Egyptians. These predictions are not confirmed by Mayanists or Egyptologists.
    "Can't possibly be wrong"

    When asked what would happen if December 2012 were to come and go without the earthquakes and tsunamis of his predictions, Geryl fell silent.
    "I don't really contemplate that possibility," he said. "[My predictions] are so spectacular, they can't possibly be wrong."6

    Problems with Geryl's ideas

    To people trained in astronomy, Patrick Geryl's idea is laughable. Geryl never seems to explain how he is able to predict this "solar flare"7 years ahead of time when astrophysicists are not able to do so, or how he knows that the magnetic field of his imaginary plasma cloud is going to be opposite that of the Earth. When questioned on these topics, he refers people to his books.
    Not massive enough

    In order to exert a force on the earth that would cause part of the earth to flip over, you would have to exert as much energy as it would take to stop it, and start it spinning again in the opposite direction. When we are talking about the core earth we are talking about a huge spinning mass. The core of the earth is divided into two parts, the solid iron core which is about the size of the moon, and the liquid outer core which is the size of mars. The inner core rotates with the earth, only slightly out of sync with the rest of the planet8.

    Geryl claims that a massive CME is going to flip the core over, physically. Let us assume that he means the solid inner core, which is the size of the moon[7]. In order to turn the core as Geryl claims, the CME would have to be more massive than the core.

    This is true for the same reasons that astronauts working on the Hubble had to have their feet bolted to the mechanical arm of the space shuttle. Because if you try to turn a screw in space, you wind up with your body rotating around the screw instead of the screw turning out of the socket. On earth or inside the shuttle you are braced against something. Out in space with nothing to brace against and no gravity to hold you to the ground, you just spin. The CME that Geryl has flipping the core is in the same situation. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Assuming there was no spin at all on the core, and assuming there was a realistic way to couple the two masses, in order to turn the core 180 degrees, the mass of the CME would have to be equal to that of the core, and turn 180 degrees in the opposite direction.

    If the CME were less massive than the core, it would have to complete a turn of more than 180 degrees. Something with 1/2 the mass of the core would have to complete a full rotation, etc.

    So, how much mass are we talking about?

    The volume of the moon is 21.9 billion cubic kilometers. That is 21,900,000,000 km3 or 2.19×1010km3. There are 1015 cubic centimeters in 1 cubic kilometer, or 2.19×1025cm3 in the solid inner core. Iron has a density of 7.874 g/cc, so the mass of the core is 2.19×1025×7.874 or 1.724×1026 grams. In contrast, the average mass of a CME is 1.6×1015 grams, or about 1011 ( That is 100,000,000,000 ) times smaller.

    There is no way a CME could be massive enough to turn the core.
    Not magnetic enough

    In addition to the problem with the mass, there is a problem with coupling the two masses together. Geryl claims that the magnetic field of the CME will push the core over by acting on the magnetic field of the core. This claim also fails.

    Let us assume that the solid core is magnetized (it is not, but we'll leave that aside for the moment). Geryl's claim requires a magnetic field strong enough to grab that spinning mass and flip it over. In order to do that the magnetic field strength would have to be much more intense than the magnetic field of the earth.

    The strength of a magnetic field obeys the inverse square law. If you double the distance, the field strength falls to one quarter. In order to overwhelm the magnetic field of the earth, the field generated by the CME would have to be stronger than that of the earth. That is actually not that hard to do on a very localized basis. The strength of the field at the Earth's surface ranges from less than 30 microTeslas (0.3 Gauss) in an area including most of South America and South Africa to over 60 microTeslas (0.6 Gauss) around the magnetic poles in northern Canada and south of Australia, and in part of Siberia. Any bar magnet will seize a compass needle, overwhelming the magnetic field of the earth within several inches of the magnet. However, a CME is a large, diffuse object, and its magnetic field would have to be much larger than that of the earth in order to affect the core.

    Even if you took a second earth and (ignoring gravity) brought it next to our earth and tried to flip it magnetically, you wouldn't be able to do it. If you took a second earth with a magnetic field hundreds of times stronger than ours, you still wouldn't be able to do it. You would need a much more massive object with a much stronger magnetic field to overcome the weakness of the magnetic interaction, and the stability of the earth given to it by its spin.

    So in order to flip the core, the CME would have to be intensely magnetic and many times more massive than the earth, let alone the earth's core. A CME does not come anywhere near being massive enough or magnetic enough to cause this effect.
    Nowhere to hide

    Let us assume that we are wrong in our analysis above. Geryl is proposing that his group be given 1 billion US$ in order to build a survival center in the Sierra Nevada mountains of Spain. The problem is, if he were right, there would be nowhere to hide.
    Warning: MATH!

    The amount of energy expended to flip the core over is immense. The rotational kinetic energy is given by the equation[12]:
    (1)
    Krotation=12Iw2

    where I is the Moment of Inertia and w is the angular velocity. The Moment of Inertia of a solid spinning sphere is approximated by the equation[11][10]
    (2)
    I=2mr25

    where m is the mass, and r is the radius of the sphere. We will take the radius of the core to be that of the moon, or about 1,737 km ( 1.737×106meters ). Substituting these into the Moment of Inertia calculation 2, the calculation of I becomes:
    (3)
    I=2(1.724×1023)(1.737×106)25
    (4)
    I=2(1.724×1023)(3.01717×1012)5
    (5)
    I=2(5.2016×1035)5
    (6)
    I=1.04032×10365
    (7)
    I=2.08064×1035

    Substituting this into the Kinetic energy calculation 1, we get
    (Cool
    K=12(2.08604×1035)w2

    The Angular velocity is measured in radians per second[9]. The earth revolves once per day. That happens to be 0.000072722052166 radians/second or 7.27×10−5 radians per second. Which gives us:
    (9)
    K=12(2.081×1035)(7.27×10−5)2
    (10)
    K=12(2.081×1035)(5.28529×10−9)
    (11)
    K=12(1.09968×1027)
    (12)
    K=5.49839×1026joules
    End of the math

    Now, that's a pretty big number. Let's write it out: 54,983,900,000,000,000,000,000,000 joules. In comparison, a 1 Megaton bomb has the defined energy of 4.18×1015 joules. The amount of kinetic energy stored in the rotating core is about 1.316×1011 or 13,160,000,000 megatons. Remember, this number is 1/2 the energy requirement to flip the core over into another orientation. This amount of energy is not going to create earthquakes and tidal waves, it would melt the entire planet.

    Thank goodness Geryl is wrong.
    Another reason it can't happen

    Geryl's idea appears to hinge on the common misconception that the earth's magnetic field is generated in the solid core. It is not, because the solid iron core is too hot to form a magnetic field. The magnetic field it is actually generated in the outer liquid core by the flow of currents of liquid metal. The exact mechanism of these currents is not resolved, and there are various theories as to how the currents that power the magnetic field are generated.

    So, even if all of the above objections were overcome, there is no magnetic field in the solid core for the "Gigantic solar flare" to grab onto.
    Conclusion

    Patrick Geryl's ideas are not scientific theories. He indulges in pseudo-science (specifically pseudo-astronomy and pseudo-archeology) and his conclusions are incorrect. We show that his claimed mechanism for physically flipping the earth's core is impossible, and that his claimed results (earthquakes, tsunamis, etc) are incorrect.



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    Post  ceridwen Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:46 am

    Another supporter of Patrick is guess who? Clif High

    In a new low, Clif High has invented a new deception: Coded books to "preserve the knowledge of humanity". Joining together with a pal (who does not want to be contacted by the public) he is asking for thousands of dollars a throw. Neat eh?

    Not only we are allegedly going to be "fighting aliens in our living rooms" "being obliterated by an asteroid" and "drowned by a coastal phenomena" we now need to spend our cash supporting his "library"

    How ridiculous can it get?

    When you boil it down, what is the point of preserving anything? Allegedly everything written is a lie


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    Post  Floyd Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:05 am

    ceridwen wrote:Another supporter of Patrick is guess who? Clif High

    In a new low, Clif High has invented a new deception: Coded books to "preserve the knowledge of humanity". Joining together with a pal (who does not want to be contacted by the public) he is asking for thousands of dollars a throw. Neat eh?

    Not only we are allegedly going to be "fighting aliens in our living rooms" "being obliterated by an asteroid" and "drowned by a coastal phenomena" we now need to spend our cash supporting his "library"

    How ridiculous can it get?

    When you boil it down, what is the point of preserving anything? Allegedly everything written is a lie


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    Hi C

    Im not sure why anyone would take Cliff High's history of epic failness seriously. He is part of a matrix of fearmongers Including George Green, Dill Beagle (Dr Death) Patrick Geryl, Marshall Masters, Nancy Lieder, Pete Peterson and practically everyone you can think of who has been interviewed on Project Doomalot since its inception.

    Its all in bad taste. Almost criminal in its implications on how it effects people who dont realise just how full of crap they are.

    As someone wrote to me yesterday

    "Fear mongering is insidious. I've been told that some people do it to bring attention to themselves without regard for the impacts of their actions. Pathetic."
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    Post  Micjer Wed Oct 17, 2012 7:07 am

    Is there anyone telling the truth? Shocked


    Funny, one guy that is trying to tell the truth, no one wants to pay attention to.

    http://alignment2012.com/

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    The 2012 Movie

    Guess What? There is ZERO evidence that the ancient Maya predicted the end of the world in 2012. The Maya calendar does not END in 2012. DOOMSDAY-2012 is a fallacious construct, a projection of exploitative and underinformed writers and Western nihilistic fantasy. A huge publicity campaign has begun for Hollywood's 2012 catastrophe movie, to open November 13, 2009. Is this Hollywood appropriation of 2012 mere harmless entertainment? At the very least, this entertainment comes at a price, and that is: the complete and utter misrepresentation of what 2012 meant to the creators of the 2012 calendar. I write about this in my new book, The 2012 Story. My nine books on Maya cosmology and tradition going back to 1989 explore the facts, the evidence, and the reconstruction of a lost paradigm.


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    Post  ceridwen Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:44 pm

    I totaly agree with you Floyd, I think what Clif flop does is criminal. Which is why I mentioned it.

    I have a friend who is a devotee. I have not been able to persuade her to give it up Rolling Eyes

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    Post  Carol Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:32 pm

    I find Cliff somewhat boring and almost always into the "worst case" scenario possible with his data. However, I still like to listen for the same reason I listen to many of them... I'm curious as to what they come up with.

    Micjer, I like John Major Jenkins too.

    Personally, I suspect much of this disinformation is designed to keep humanity in the negative fear mode which will lock them into a very unpleasant state of mind and allows for easy manipulation. Years and years ago I had this one very interesting Sociology professor in college who talked about how throughout history the masses (general population) was controlled by fear. The whole point of becoming self-aware is to move out of a state of fear and to think for oneself. Given the state of technology and mind-control going on at multiple levels I suspect many were more aware back in the 60s dropping acid then the youth today with their iphones.


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    Post  magamud Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:49 pm

    If you do not face your fears, your fears will still be inside you unbeknownst. Then they will process in other ways unbeknownst.

    Imho our societal reality is vastly different then what we are taught. This extreme positioning will cause anyone to look in the abyss and fear is a natural reaction to it.

    Figuring out how to make a bridge can take a lifetime. Patience and time when sifting fear....

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    Post  Floyd Thu Oct 18, 2012 2:53 am

    ceridwen wrote:I totaly agree with you Floyd, I think what Clif flop does is criminal. Which is why I mentioned it.

    I have a friend who is a devotee. I have not been able to persuade her to give it up Rolling Eyes


    They are all as bad as each other C. You mentioned Patrick Geryl.
    The problem is that in reality these clowns are easily debunked and have been. A high school student with a basic level of comprehension could distinctly see the gaping flaws in their pseudo scientific theories when compared to factual data rather than fantasy.

    They are fearmongers but are more like comedians to those who are clued up. Someone here mentioned we should face our fears but with these people like Geryl, High, Masters, Peterson, Green, Deagle and Sitchen et al there is nothing to fear apart for the gullible upon whom they prey.

    What they do is bloody awful but there is always the giggle factor.
    Have you noticed how misinformers tell followers not to trust science basically disarming them (deflector shields are down captain)allowing the fearmongers to go in and sow their pseudo science based fear into minds. Sadly some people even pay for this kind of information. It is a process not too far removed from methods used in religious cults that disable the ability in the devotee to think analytically for themselves before filling their heads with various forms of gibberish and basically holding them in a state of dependence and control.

    The good news is that after the winter solstice many of their careers will be coming to a welcome end. Unless of course they do a Lieder or a Wilcock and change the goalposts and their websites again to give themselves a new lease of life.

    Rolling Eyes
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    Post  ceridwen Thu Oct 18, 2012 3:56 am

    Floyd wrote:
    Have you noticed how misinformers tell followers not to trust science basically disarming them (deflector shields are down captain)allowing the fearmongers to go in and sow their pseudo science based fear into minds. Sadly some people even pay for this kind of information. It is a process not too far removed from methods used in religious cults that disable the ability in the devotee to think analytically for themselves before filling their heads with various forms of gibberish and basically holding them in a state of dependence and control.

    The good news is that after the winter solstice many of their careers will be coming to a welcome end. Unless of course they do a Lieder or a Wilcock and change the goalposts and their websites again to give themselves a new lease of life.

    Rolling Eyes

    Hear, hear!

    I have no doubt they will change the goal post, just like in 2000 and 2003. It will be 2014, 2017 and Apophis in 2029 etc

    Meantime their good intended followers could be doing a lot of good in this planet rather than wasting their lives and time with scaremongering. Which is what gets me going but well, that is another story

    Toast
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    Post  THEeXchanger Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:29 pm

    seems the best information, is always FREE !!!
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    Post  malletzky Fri Oct 19, 2012 3:07 am

    THEeXchanger wrote:seems the best information, is always FREE !!!

    I agree with you. Any information should allways be given for free.

    Particulary, my favourite kind of "payment" is exchanging = my own knowlegde for informations and knowledge of other.

    I tend to split my own knowlegde in:

    a) knowledge gained from my own personal experiences, which is unique and firsthand and always true (for me)

    and in

    b)knowlegde gained thru learning from information and knowledge from other's experiences and knowledge, which is secondhand (thanks Lionhawk for opening my eyes Thubs Up ).

    Should I have been paying for everything I know (learned), I would need a fortune so far.

    Especially, I have to honour the patience and dedication from one of my dearest friends (he knows who he is and I hope he's reading here too Very Happy ), the person who actualy "poked" me several years ago to finaly start learning and growing my own potential. The value of many hours spent with him in "face to face" conversations is priceles.

    Nevertheless, I'm always "willing" to pay for a good book, video etc. (which I regulary do) as long as I can see any value in the material for me.

    Only, I will never pay for the so called "how to..." knowledge (for example any seminars, webinars or workshops where I'm been told "how to do something" in order to gain anything, be it special abilities or anything else.) That kind of knowldge won't work as it will be a secondhand for me already.

    But who am I to say, that what I wrote above isn't just another crap scratch lol! ???

    Much respect
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    Post  Floyd Fri Oct 19, 2012 3:16 am

    ceridwen wrote:


    Hear, hear!

    I have no doubt they will change the goal post, just like in 2000 and 2003. It will be 2014, 2017 and Apophis in 2029 etc

    Meantime their good intended followers could be doing a lot of good in this planet rather than wasting their lives and time with scaremongering. Which is what gets me going but well, that is another story

    Toast

    There will always be something C and yes it is a waste sadly.

    Mall.

    Experience is everything and knowledge helps but is useless without understanding. Ultimately no one can tell us anything and experience will be our tutor. You cannot buy that information.

    Everyone's experiences are different. Unfortunately in the land of spiritual 'experts', leaders and and gurus, some think their own experiences are exclusive or more important than others. This is one of the reasons there are so many so called spiritual groups or cults all thinking that there way is the right way.

    Some even put a trademark or copyright on them lol.
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    Post  magamud Sat Oct 20, 2012 12:45 pm

    Ive noticed that the Fear Mongering campaign coincidentally redirects the Truth mongering campaign going on.
    Why is that?
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    Post  mudra Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:46 pm


    Each time I come across an article from Terrence Aym
    I feel like

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    Post  lindabaker Sun Sep 29, 2013 5:30 pm

    Okay, time to revive this section!

    On my way to find some goodies!

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