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    Clif High finally DID get something right! DECEIVERS would be outed.....

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    Post  TRANCOSO Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:00 am

    Linda wrote: Instigator and TRANCOSO said it.......not me......
    TRANCOSO wrote:I've just speed-read through this thread & came to the conclusion that QueeQueg/Cliff High does what he does best, and Linda too.
    That was a polite way of expressing that I couldn't care less about the whole Cliff High topic.

    QQ has posted some interesting views in other threads, which is the reason I appericiate his input.

    As for Linda's posts; I have patience nor time or interest to read about her grunge against Cliff High, Mel Veritas etc.

    To me you make the impression of a psycho-sociopath on speed.

    It is though an interesting experiment to see how far people/avatars try to drag the boundaries of what this forum allows, without being insulted.

    Well, I've got news for both of you: do as you please, for there are none.

    Very few members here have signed up to start these kind of BS-expeditions, and those who have don't seem to realise that their quest is completely pointless.

    To put it very bold; you only f#ck yourself spending so much time & energy on such meaningless BS.

    I feel sympathy, nor do I pitty w@nkers, let alone do I care whether they're dead or alive.



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    Post  starninja Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:46 am

    TRANCOSO,
    I had to read you post 3 times because I just couldn’t believe that you were so upset. People have a choice what they read. Well, we wouldn’t have a problem if Q behaved as a mature adult. In this forum we really care to create a warm and welcoming atmosphere and we stop any behaviors that are abusive. We were successful again. sunny
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    Post  TRANCOSO Sun Nov 28, 2010 1:13 am

    starninja wrote:TRANCOSO,
    I had to read you post 3 times because I just couldn’t believe that you were so upset. People have a choice what they read. Well, we wouldn’t have a problem if Q behaved as a mature adult. In this forum we really care to create a warm and welcoming atmosphere and we stop any behaviors that are abusive. We were successful again. sunny
    'How can anyone be upset by Linda's trivial BS?', I just wondered aloud.

    And for QQ, well if it's adieu, he has missed a chance to connect to bright minds, opinions & ideas. Either due to pitty arrogance, or shamefullness.

    No one who really matters here, will ever hold his 'adieu' statement against him though.
    I wrote: To put it very bold; you only f#ck yourself spending so much time & energy on such meaningless BS.

    I feel sympathy, nor do I pitty w@nkers, let alone do I care whether they're dead or alive.
    No one gets banned here for whatever nonsense they proclaime in their posts, & futile abuse makes hardly any impression, but a bad one.

    To some sorry @sses, that's a whole new ballgame.

    What more; this thread scored 11.610 views in 11 days.
    An absolute record achievement, (author) Linda.
    For what it's worth...

    Indeed, not a penny for your thoughts, let alone 11.610. Big Grin 2
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    Post  starninja Sun Nov 28, 2010 1:36 am

    TRANCOSO wrote:

    How can anyone be upset by Linda's trivial BS, I wondered aloud?
    And for QQ, well if it's adieu, he has missed a chance to connect to bright minds, opinions & ideas. Either due to pitty arrogance, or shamefullness.

    No one who really matters here, will ever hold his 'adieu' statement against him.
    I wrote: To put it very bold; you only f#ck yourself spending so much time & energy on such meaningless BS.

    I feel sympathy, nor do I pitty w@nkers, let alone do I care whether they're dead or alive.

    No one gets banned here for whatever nonsense they proclaime in their posts, & futile abuse makes hardly any impression, but a bad one.

    To some sorry @sses, that's a whole new ballgame.

    Oh, I love you my friend. I maybe wrong but the tone of your post indicated that you were upset.Heh heh If Q really wanted to stay, he woudn’t come back to this tread but he would be engaged in discussion on other thread. So, it sounds that he had his own reasons to do so. Secondly, if we wanted to respond to all BS, our lives would be veeeeeery busy and we wouldn’t have time to really enjoy it. Lolerz
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    Post  Carol Sun Nov 28, 2010 7:51 am

    I think Q misunderstood when I posted that at the onset of Mists we did ban wankers and idiots perhaps thinking I thought of him as one or the other, which I don't. What I didn't like was that he thought there were no rules when clearly being civil and not emotinally abusing another member is the foundation Mists is built upon. I didn't like Linda's trashing of Mel or Cliff which I expressed as well, nor did I like what M or Q did - meaning HOW (the way) they challenged Linda - not that they did. Personal attacks just don't wash here.


    And I will add this... when someone gets filled up with their own sense of self-importance - that is EGO. And most of us know what happens next. ERGO EGO = EGGO

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    Post  starninja Sun Nov 28, 2010 8:29 am

    Carol,

    You have helped me to realize that I am more protective and tolerant towards women. Yes, I don’t like when men attack women and I always drop my five cents to stop it. But I don’t like when both women and men are engaged in verbal attacks. Anger generates more anger.

    Oh, dear what about salad?



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    Post  Micjer Sun Nov 28, 2010 8:35 am

    Seriously, do you have any idea how much negative energy has been wasted on this thread. Why is it that threads like this get the most hits?

    I thank Linda for her research, as it was very informing, but there comes a time that we must move on.

    Funny I post an uplifting like the following and no one (other than Mudra) Flowers , responds.

    You know the Great Deceiver is loving this distraction. Oooyeah 1

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    Post  starninja Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:20 am

    Micjer wrote:
    Seriously, do you have any idea how much negative energy has been wasted on this thread. Why is it that threads like this get the most hits?

    I thank Linda for her research, as it was very informing, but there comes a time that we must move on.

    Funny I post an uplifting like the following and no one (other than Mudra) , responds.

    You know the Great Deceiver is loving this distraction.

    I agree with you. I expressed earlier my concerns that people are so energized by that kind of stories. I think that it is a wake up call for us to break the cycle.
    We may choose anger or love and laughter.



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    Post  Suriel Sun Nov 28, 2010 10:02 am

    People are naturally attracted to Drama. It is a source of entertainment. Although for some it is a way to release some of that energy. But there are always reactions. Those reactions create more hits. I even found this thread on Google when I was trying to figure out what Clif said about the tipping point for November. We seem to be going into that tipping point now. Even in this thread.

    I say if you don't like Clif don't read his reports or listen to his guest appearances on radio podcasts. But it should be interesting to pick out some things that do work for you if it does. I kind of missed what happened as a result of this thread. Did some people leave? Oh well, I guess what is done is done.
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    Post  TRANCOSO Sun Nov 28, 2010 10:24 am

    Micier wrote: I thank Linda for her research, as it was very informing, but there comes a time that we must move on.
    Seriously Micier, did you actually bother to read that crap & give it a thought? You're joking, right?

    The only thing that truly amazes me, is the incredible amount of words this Linda person manages to put in one single post.

    How twisted a mind can be!

    I'll bet any given high brow psycho-analist would rather see her locked up with the key of her cell thrown away, than treat here as a patient & become a Nobel price winner.

    There's only so much I can cope with at any given time, & if I wanna hear a whole lot of BS, I watch the 8 o'clock news, just as I'd go to McDonalds every 6 months to remind myself of the utter crap - advertised as food, they serve there.

    I try to avoid both, but every now & than it crosses your path & I deal with it as a mature, intelligent being, rather than blow some brains out & serve 150 years imprissonment.

    And when I really can't resist the urge to wipe out a bunch of @ssholes off the surface of this earth, I make sure those corpses won't be found in a million years.

    Not that I ever waste my time on either McDonalds fastfood or the scumbags who are responsible for it, but I keep an open mind on these matters.

    So to put the record straight about Linda & QQ; I really don't care one bit at all.

    Now, if Mudra, Brook or Lionheart, to name a few, would suddenly start to write 'Linda-like', than I would become seriously upset.

    But untill that happens, my heart beats as steady as the beat of a drummachine.

    Namaste.

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    Post  lawlessline Sun Nov 28, 2010 10:55 am

    This thread is great. Once a week drop in catch up. Just like the simpsons. Although interesting it is now incredibly funny to come back once in a while and skip through. Some very class comments with just the right amount of humour. Well done everybody.

    I thinkl this must be the tipping point of this thread. Did he mean by Tipping as in rubbish? The thing is I agree with the fundamentals. Sure it just relies on the interprétation of the results. A bit like the Bible? Oh boy I 've gone and done it. Shouldn't of let the bible in on this thread.

    Back sametime next week. Until then smile a little more.

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    Post  starninja Sun Nov 28, 2010 10:57 am

    Suriel write:
    People are naturally attracted to Drama. It is a source of entertainment. Although for some it is a way to release some of that energy. But there are always reactions. Those reactions create more hits. I even found this thread on Google when I was trying to figure out what Clif said about the tipping point for November. We seem to be going into that tipping point now. Even in this thread.

    I say if you don't like Clif don't read his reports or listen to his guest appearances on radio podcasts. But it should be interesting to pick out some things that do work for you if it does. I kind of missed what happened as a result of this thread. Did some people leave? Oh well, I guess what is done is done.

    I am not sure if we are naturally attracted to drama. Drama generates intense feelings and we may feel fully alive. Hm……..do we need drama because we don’t experience deep feelings that make us alive? The question, therefore, is why do we react to others anger or hatred?
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    Post  TRANCOSO Sun Nov 28, 2010 11:02 am

    lawlessline wrote:This thread is great. Once a week drop in catch up. Just like the simpsons. Although interesting it is now incredibly funny to come back once in a while and skip through. Some very class comments with just the right amount of humour. Well done everybody.

    I thinkl this must be the tipping point of this thread. Did he mean by Tipping as in rubbish? The thing is I agree with the fundamentals. Sure it just relies on the interprétation of the results. A bit like the Bible? Oh boy I 've gone and done it. Shouldn't of let the bible in on this thread.

    Back sametime next week. Until then smile a little more.

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    Post  starninja Sun Nov 28, 2010 11:06 am

    TRANCOSO wrote:
    Now, if Mudra, Brook or Lionheart, to name a few, would suddenly start to write 'Linda-like', than I would become seriously upset.

    But untill that happens, my heart beats as steady as the beat of a drummachine.

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    Post  investigator Sun Nov 28, 2010 11:23 am

    Trancosco, hey man sorry, but I'm going to call you out on this, and any other member that broke the rules. They were insulting another member, and expecting special treatment, yet they go and criticize AV1 and AV2 for offering special treatment to their members, in other threads for the same behavior. For me this thread isn't even about Linda anymore or Cliff, I just hate it when people attack other people, against the rules, and then expect special treatment for it like, they never did anything wrong at all. Everyone should follow the rules, no one is forcing them to reply, even if they disagree when they reply, they should just follow the rules for gods sake, and reply in an intelligent manner if they wish to debate. I suppose it's better to get this issue settled now, rather then later and have it blow up. What I hate most of all is special treatment. Why form another forum in the first place to protest special treatment, yet engage in the same behavior?

    I'm just saying people should voluntarily not say anything, to preserve the highest MOA ideal of complete freedom of speech, and self moderation. And if they wish to reply they should just follow the rules when they reply, instead of expecting cowardly special treatment. People that are service to others oriented should have enough courage and spiritual development, to not attack others for having a different opinion. I don't want anyone to get in trouble or anything like that, but for now on please just follow the highest MOA ideal of self moderation for all future posts. They should have enough development to control themselves, and follow the rules when they reply to anything.

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    Post  TRANCOSO Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:29 pm

    Investigator, you are so right in your judgement... So bloody well right... So incredibly, overwelmingly right... I'm almost speechless...
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    Post  Carol Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:49 pm

    investigator is amazing, isn't he. Quite insightful.

    Okay... just so you all know I did ban Raven (100 days) today for posting a lot of porn and relentlessly attacking another member. She may have been having fun while she was on her rant but breaking the other two guidelines went way over the top and I did delete the porn. A few of the posts remain (I moved some of the posts into the private admin section and was so pissed I deleted the others, which I now regret as I now realize we should keep a record of this in the admin section).


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    Post  Lionhawk Sun Nov 28, 2010 1:32 pm

    Well, Trancoso, you have more balls than I do. Would I ever start a thread? Seriously? I learned from AV1 that it wasn't worth it for me. Everyone taught me a lesson there.

    I must say I don't know Linda. What I have seen is she is reasonable. I don't see her in the same light as some of the folks here have described her here or the comments they have tried to paint her as. I find her to be valuable in the perspective she is anchoring. What I do admire is the fact that she is striving for integrity. I can work with that and you of all people shouldn't feel jealous of that. What you do is also fantastic with the light that you carry. I support both of you in that light.

    Some of these threads or subjects are just simple pot holes that one can find themselves drawn into. Also get caught up in the drama of the spinning rear wheels trying to get out of the pothole. If it pushes your buttons in some way that only means that there is something internal in the subscriber that needs to be worked on. To add the emotional charge on top of that just sensationalizes the whole thing. Maybe I am getting old here, but I find much of that a waste of energy and that energy I have left should be put to use on more important things. Like for instance a Reptilian ship went over our house a month ago. In my mind that is way more important than any pot hole thread on any forum. These pot holes aren't working on the bigger issues. Cliff High, Colleen Thomas, or anybody else is not effecting my life because I do not subscribe to anyone. I could care less about anyone's personal beliefs because those are second hand in nature. It is just like you said about if you want to, you could just watch the news. It's all the same thing in my mind. So say what you will......or anyone else can have their say......
    It's all good.

    What is important for me is that I honor everyone's free agency no matter what is said or what topic goes over the wall. Now one place I do draw the line is on the Thuban highway, simple because they made it personal. Otherwise, I could have cared less if they didn't make it personal. I will exercise "I disagree!" when it comes to this group. Or I will also disagree when things are said that are out of balance. But you don't see me do that very often now do you? The more I go, the less, I say. I don't feel the need. Although I have others that would like to see me post more, or get into some pot hole drama, I gracefully decline. Simply put, Been there! Done that! So maybe you may find yourself at some time in the future crossing a similar train of thought. Until then keep doing what you're doing. It's all good from this POV.

    And to top all of this off, I have to say that the name Lionheart makes me want to puke. Now lately my name seems to be getting slightly distorted. Even shortened. I would rather have someone cuss me with a different name. Why? Because, the cougar and the hawk that resides within me is who I honor and respect. You can call me anything but it is them that should be respected for the great works they have done in service to all that is and the blessings they have bestowed upon my life. Call it my pot hole. I know people in general don't mean no disrespect but when you shorten my name, which I was given by a council of Shamans, it takes away from the other. Hope this made some kind of sense. You can say what you want towards me but please have some decency and get the name right.
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    with respect, and awareness, let us begin...

    They, the powers that used to be, are trying it again.

    You know, the whole 'problem, response, solution' thing that they use to control large numbers of mostly hypnotized people on this planet. They create a 'problem' that causes you to go into fear mode which is chemically triggered by the R-complex in your lower brain matrix, and then they control you through your emotions by manipulating events such that you agree to give them your power in exchange for them providing a 'solution' to the 'problem' that they caused.

    They had thought that their 'israel versus iran' problem would be sufficient to lever the planetary populace into a middle east focused global war. It did not work since so many of us were watching for so long.

    Note, and you may certainly argue with me, that the planetary populace focus on the potential for a [nu-war] beginning with the [israeli mistake] has contributed to the destruction of potential emotional energy for that war to exist. Also note i am not saying anything more than words from hph *participated* in the process of grounding that potential war. It works on an energetic level beyond the condensate matter plane which is the 'place' where your body, the planet, universe and all the pies exist. It works at this energetic level by concentrating 'attention' which is a form of 'directly focused consciousness (note...little 'c' consciousness, not BIG 'C"). This directly focused consciousness acts as a spot light may act on a particularly vulnerable area of a house, which is to say, preventing burglary and other mischief due to the 'exposure' to the whole neighborhood.

    So they fell back to Plan 'B'..... also please note that tptw (the powers that were) undoubtedly have Plan B as a bolded statement in their minds. This is due to their whole attitude of "we are the grown-ups in this world" and we have 'really really serious plans'. Yeah..right (sarcastic derision here).

    The Plan B, it appears, is to generate a war between amongst the Korean peoples. Nope, not as good as getting the whole planetary populace whipped up about the Israeli's and Jews versus the Farsi and Islamists, but hey? what can you do...it's a plan B. Ok, so mostly Korea is too far away from the energy (oil) center of the planet, (note that location matters to tptw in their majic plots, so to have to move their war is quite irritating indeed), and outside the usual emotional framework of the hundreds of millions of sheeple that tptw (the powers that were) are trying to herd, but what the hell. In cases of desperation, you take what you can get.

    So they are trying to promote this latest [nu-war] effort into their [coup-de-grace] that would, in their twisted reptilian minds, lead to WW3, then the N W O, and their wet dream of the great harvest of souls.

    They are desperately working their Plan B, this is, by the way, their response to the Chinese submarine continental ballistic missile signal off the coast of California. All this XXXX is connected...in case you were not paying attention. The Plan B, again as an aside, is no where near their ideal energy draining control-of-planetary-humans optimum, and they, that is the former powers-that-be, are in a desperate, and intensely fearful state, as they realize just how shaky their position has become. They know they are in deep and sinking fast.

    So look for them to be both stupid, and careless.

    Since the former-powers-that-be are trapped in ritualistic, even reptilian, thinking, they will re-run one of their previous hits, which is to say, expect another 'gulf of tonkin' incident. Only this time in the seas off of Korea, and considerably more violent. In fact, judging from our emotional quantifiers and the steady erosion of emotional tone sums within the FPTB (Former ThePowersThatBe) entity in our modelspace, they will likely have to pretty much totally destroy at least 1/one large, American carrier group in the Gulf Of Tonkin Incident, Part Deaux.

    Now please note...if you are ignorant of what the Gulf of Tonkin Incident is, and how it affected your life and the social fabric of the planet, you should go look it up now. We will wait till you get back...

    Ok, she's back.

    And now we have our cultural perspective, yes? The twisted humans that we all call minions, also known as scummy politicians, are being instructed by their masters, which include but are not limited to, the banksters, to 'play' us all with a new war, and to do it NOW.

    They will arrange for an 'in your face' provocation to the North Koreans, that will NOT be visible to anyone other than the North Koreans. This will be their 'problem statement', that they anticipate will drive the North Koreans quite batshit, and they in turn will respond violently (as they have been trained by decades of trauma induced and planned by the old TPTB). The violent response is likely to be an unexpectedly sophisticated low flying missile attack on multiple ships in a carrier group. The attack, as tptw hope, would be devastatingly successful since the American fleet commanders are *not* aware that they are the sacrificial goats this time. The use of the word 'goats' is quite specific as many of the upper echelon naval surface ship officers are masons ( a secret society abhorrent to regular humans), and thus really should know better. But, probably they were out the day of the meeting and so were chosen to be the goat by everyone else. Yes, masons, i do know of what i speak and the mental image in your mind now is quite deliberate.

    The resultant horrific destruction of ships and men, it is thought by the former-powers-that-be, would be enough to compensate, energetically, in sparking their global war.

    Will it?

    Well.... time and all the planetary humans will determine the outcome of their Plan B approach.

    You see, it is a question of energies, not only nuclear and armies of men and machines, but also of the energy of focused attention by humans. This is the woo-woo part in case you had not noticed. The focused concentration of all the planetary humans is now being directed to the stage play organized by a bunch of twisted/damaged minds around the traumatized Korean peoples. For them, that is, the twisted fuckers who planned this, the situation *appears* to be a prime Plan B.

    But, as any human knows, plans usually don't work out in manifesting universe, at least not as conceived inside the limitations of mind. To think otherwise is delusion...do not kid yourself.

    So...what i am doing is to consider the problem of the Korean peoples not from the view being crafted by tptw and their loyal but stupid press minions, but rather to focus my attention on the whole production (getting my mind away from their narrow perception), and to consider the Korean peoples not as warring parties, but as a family of related humans, deeply traumatized by the insidious and hideous actions of a small group of power elite that behave as though they are not human.

    Now then, what is to be done about Plan B? Well....do not expect me to answer that question for you. There are thoughts i have, mainly of trying to heal the trauma state of the Koreans, and yes, some of the healing involves pie (if you don't get it by now, and can't smell the cinnamon wafting up in the warm scent of baked apples carried by the gently roasting wheat, then you seriously need to learn to bake). And yes, they, the thoughts are a good start, but obviously not enough. We live in the plane of matter condensed from the energy of universe. Some of the thoughts must express themselves on the material plane....thus this missive. Not a missile. Rather a string of words designed to excite other words in other minds until maybe, just maybe, within the storm of words, will arise the necessary vibrational harmonic that will begin the resonance that will derail Plan B.

    We could tell the American navy guys, through their buddies in secret society criminal activities, the masons, that we know. But you can't warn them...that would probably be some kind of criminal act under the many constraining 'laws' from the minions and tptw (the powers that were). But, we could express our sadness - to them, their families will find out soon enough so don't go adding to their up coming trauma and please stand by to aid and comfort all of the families of those who will be sacrificed for the political and banker welfare in this next new war. This needs to be treated with respect as these men and women will all soon be dead and deserve no less than our serious intent to preserve their lives, even if they think the wu-jo to be woo-woo, and their 'mission' to be righteous. If you take their death and their mission seriously, and acknowledge their courage, even in the presence of the larger ignorance about their fate, then they may be reachable. Not that it would, or even could change much. Been there (military brat), so i understand the situation that traps these brave humans.

    We could figure out a way to tell the Koreans that they are being 'played by the elites', but will they listen? Would they recognize the power that they have to step outside the paradigm being rapidly built to fence them in to a cage match? Would they, even if they understand the broader strategy employed against them, have the raw human courage to stand up and say, "i am human. i am courage personified. i fiercely fight for my family, my tribe, my country, my planet. i do not fight for profit and amusement for twisted minds. Your Xxxxxxxx war does not start with me." The Koreans that i know are such people as to say this. They are the koreans of the Tae Kwon Do...which is also an art of peace.

    But i am open to suggestion. These are just my thoughts, what are yours?

    If we don't do something, the obvious will continue. This Plan B does not suit me, how about you?

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    Post  lindabaker Sun Nov 28, 2010 2:34 pm

    The answer is the families of Korea who have family in other countries. We absolutely can get the messages out. Here's where writing and speaking English really helps..can we get the American Koreans and American Chinese and American Japanese to understand? Yes! If you live an a large or medium sized city in the UK, or Germany, or US, here are the messengers! They are right in our towns and cities. Speak to them. Tell them what's up. Have you bridged the cultural gap in your very own neighborhood? Do so now! They'll get it. Who wants to help write some simple but truthful communications that we can forward?
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    Post  Carol Sun Nov 28, 2010 2:35 pm

    Meanwhile, the circle at home is growing so small it is turning into a hangman's noose.

    TSA (sexual molestation and X-ray DNA damage shredding of 4th admendment just to get on an airplane - they even check women's sanitary napkins now), DHS (Department of Homeland Security and elimination of basic freedoms), S510 (Monsanto and the elimination on US rule of law over food production in the US and police raids in organic food stores over unpasturized milk), an illigitimate president born in Kenya making decisons on the behalf of globalists and mega corporations (bank bailouts, support of TSA sexual assault pat downs, support of S510 Monsanto and WHO).

    The whole thing in Korea takes off at the same time as these other very nasty events. Members of my family served in S. Korea and a niece was concieved there. Asia is a key player in all of this and can put a stop to this nonsense if they decide to do so.


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    Post  Linda Sun Nov 28, 2010 2:42 pm

    Lionhawk wrote:Well, Trancoso, you have more balls than I do. Would I ever start a thread? Seriously? I learned from AV1 that it wasn't worth it for me. Everyone taught me a lesson there.

    I must say I don't know Linda.
    What I have seen is she is reasonable.
    I don't see her in the same light as some of the folks here have described her here or the comments they have tried to paint her as.
    I find her to be valuable in the perspective she is anchoring.
    What I do admire is the fact that she is striving for integrity.
    I can work with that and you of all people shouldn't feel jealous of that.
    What you do is also fantastic with the light that you carry. I support both of you in that light.

    Some of these threads or subjects are just simple pot holes that one can find themselves drawn into. Also get caught up in the drama of the spinning rear wheels trying to get out of the pothole. If it pushes your buttons in some way that only means that there is something internal in the subscriber that needs to be worked on. To add the emotional charge on top of that just sensationalizes the whole thing. Maybe I am getting old here, but I find much of that a waste of energy and that energy I have left should be put to use on more important things. Like for instance a Reptilian ship went over our house a month ago. In my mind that is way more important than any pot hole thread on any forum. These pot holes aren't working on the bigger issues. Cliff High, Colleen Thomas, or anybody else is not effecting my life because I do not subscribe to anyone. I could care less about anyone's personal beliefs because those are second hand in nature. It is just like you said about if you want to, you could just watch the news. It's all the same thing in my mind. So say what you will......or anyone else can have their say......
    It's all good.

    What is important for me is that I honor everyone's free agency no matter what is said or what topic goes over the wall. Now one place I do draw the line is on the Thuban highway, simple because they made it personal. Otherwise, I could have cared less if they didn't make it personal.
    I will exercise "I disagree!" when it comes to this group.
    Or I will also disagree when things are said that are out of balance. But you don't see me do that very often now do you?
    The more I go, the less, I say. I don't feel the need. Although I have others that would like to see me post more, or get into some pot hole drama, I gracefully decline. Simply put, Been there! Done that! So maybe you may find yourself at some time in the future crossing a similar train of thought. Until then keep doing what you're doing. It's all good from this POV.

    And to top all of this off, I have to say that the name Lionheart makes me want to puke. Now lately my name seems to be getting slightly distorted. Even shortened. I would rather have someone cuss me with a different name. Why? Because, the cougar and the hawk that resides within me is who I honor and respect. You can call me anything but it is them that should be respected for the great works they have done in service to all that is and the blessings they have bestowed upon my life. Call it my pot hole.
    I know people in general don't mean no disrespect but when you shorten my name, which I was given by a council of Shamans, it takes away from the other.
    Hope this made some kind of sense. You can say what you want towards me but please have some decency and get the name right.

    Nice to meet you Lionhawk.
    I really appreciate what you have said about the personal attacks that serve no purpose.

    I am interested in learning more about the council of Shamans that gave you the Lionhawk name as I know how important that is.
    I also come from a family of Shamans from Oaxaca.
    I will search your posts and hopefully find what I am looking for.
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    Post  burgundia Sun Nov 28, 2010 2:47 pm

    lindabaker wrote:The answer is the families of Korea who have family in other countries. We absolutely can get the messages out. Here's where writing and speaking English really helps..can we get the American Koreans and American Chinese and American Japanese to understand? Yes! If you live an a large or medium sized city in the UK, or Germany, or US, here are the messengers! They are right in our towns and cities. Speak to them. Tell them what's up. Have you bridged the cultural gap in your very own neighborhood? Do so now! They'll get it. Who wants to help write some simple but truthful communications that we can forward?

    Spreading the message on facebook could help...
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    I made it up to get attention on a failed "technology". SUCKERS!!!!!!









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