Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Solar System

Sanicle wrote:Forgive my intrusion orthodoxymoron but I'm posting because I really feel for your apparent anguish, and can relate to it to a degree. I thought my monkey-mind was out of control, forever wanting to know the ins-and-outs of everything, the whys and wherefores etc. but the entanglement your mind has you enmeshed in seems to be huge! For what it's worth, I'd like to pass on to you what I've learned about the 'who/what/why' trap after having 'researched' it for many long years, hoping something I say might ring true to you and help. Where to start?

Thank-you for your response Sanicle. The 'intrusion' is welcome. I wish there were more 'intruders'. This is the major source of my very real anquish. Very few seem to be concerned about one of the most important issues in the solar system - namely 'Solar System Governance'. My entanglement is not only huge - it's quantum. I sort of like the '5 W's'. They tend to transport one to the heart of the issue.

OK, looking at it from the mental perspective, I've found trying to find out who is 'right' and who is 'wrong' in any situation, no matter how big the picture, doesn't really achieve anything that serves us personally in the long run (apart from increasing our awareness of course). I've learned that even murderers can 'justify' their behaviour to themselves. And there are always at least two sides to every story. Plus the path and decisions each makes in life comes out of each personality's desire for peace in life. The problem with this is that each personality or party involved only sees 'peace' from their own personal perspective and seeks to 'control' the opposers to their belief and desires to attain it, at worst killing them to do so. I believe that until we are fully enlightened beings, we can't know all the ins and outs of each battle, now or in the past. And I'm sure there's right and wrong on both sides if the full history could be seen. That's where the Law of Karma comes in, to right the wrongs and redress the balance etc etc. Beyond that, all we can really do is stand up for what we believe is 'right' at the time when 'karma'/choices comes to us personally.

Determining the difference between right and wrong is fundamental. We have to judge, and make decisions based upon our judgements. Increasing awareness is a good thing. Noticing things - large and small - is a good thing. I try to be somewhat selfless in this pursuit. Everything is relative - especially when one is guilty - or when one lives on the wrong side of the tracks. I seek solar system peace - but I do not seek personal peace. If personal peace and prosperity results from an honest pursuit of the truth - then so be it. Otherwise - tough luck. I prefer constructive competition to settle various differences - and I try to see things from the other person's perspective as I discuss an issue with them. I'm really quite neutral and non-committal. I tend to ask a lot of questions. If the other person is wrong - they tend to hang themselves. This saves me a lot of time and effort. I like to help Karma out whenever I can. Karma is one of my best friends. If we don't stand for something - we tend to fall for anything.

Secondly, from my own experience I'd also like to express to you that getting caught up areas of knowledge that causes you any sort of fear or anger or personal stress is probably the work of the 'dark side'. If what forums and 'spiritual knowledge' sites say is true (the ones I've studied anyway) the negative ETs promote this through their channels as they feed off this energy psychically, so they very cleverly ... in the guise of presenting 'the Truth'... promote division, fear and anger in the followers to enable this feeding frenzy. Those involved eventually end up in the 'us against them' mindset, becoming paranoid, aggressive and dictatorial in their views about what is and isn't 'Truth'. Separativeness rules, rather than peace, compassion and open-minded exchange. So not spiritual, loving and caring. But seperativeness is the nature of the analytical mind. Of course the negative ETs also do this generally because the more turmoil and disagreement in the world, the more the fearful will look for a 'saviour' and they are very willing to step in and pretend they are that, just as you've noted. The important thing is not to get trapped in the web they've set up for the seekers of Truth, becoming enmeshed in that 'us vs them' mentality and full of fear, anger and doubt. They promote this to serve their own ends.

It's the work of the darkside that needs to be dealt with - swiftly and firmly. The dark nature of the mess created by the darkside - naturally creates fear, anger, and personal stress, as one attempts to understand various dark situations - and to turn on the right bright lights. It's a nasty job, but somebody's gotta do it. Besides, I love to watch the rats run! The regressive ET's may be leaving soon, in what I call a 'Solar System Exorcism'. The good ones can stay. Some of my best friends are ET's. Malevolent ET's seem to have been causing lots of trouble for thousands of years. 'The God's of Eden' by William Bramley documents some of this activity. Sometimes 'Us v Them' is a reality of life. And just because you're paranoid - doesn't mean they're not out to get you! But we should be able to disagree, without being disagreeable. I prefer to have some sort of rational backbone - rather than being a 'spineless wonder'. God save us from our saviors! Problem. Reaction. Solution. I think 'they' are clever enough to use just about anything to their own ends.

Lastly, I'd like to pass on to you what I've come to learn and have to remind myself of over and over again to stop falling into the mind-games and traps that we enquiring minds (and carers) can fall into.

The first is that ENERGY FOLLOWS THOUGHT. If you think about, are intrigued by, the negative aspects of life, you are drawn to those energies to learn what you seek to know. "Ask and ye shall receive" to the max. Of course, it works that way with positive energies as well, and my guess is that a balanced mental outlook... awareness in terms of the 'big picture'... is the desired outcome.

I am intrigued by problem solving. No problem. No challenge. I prefer the concept of 'Positive Response Ability' wherein one thinks both positively and negatively - and then formulates positive solutions. I find this to be most gratifying. Contextually superimposing the big and little pictures helps one to see both the forest and the trees.

But there is also the emotional component and for that aspect of personality I remind myself that GOD IS LOVE. I believe that, at a personality level, who and what we love decides our path and destiny on this planet. Everything we do revolves around that ultimately, all decisions and choices we make, again looking for peace and joy in life. I personally believe that God being Love defines our karma with others in this reality as well, why we choose to come back here and end up with 'unfinished business'. But what we desire also affects our mind-set, driving the 'energy follows thought' law into action for us. But that's at the personality level of being.

I believe that God is Responsibility. This is love with balls - and more than a feeling. Do we really have a choice regarding 'coming back here'? Perhaps we have to make our bed - and sleep in it - lifetime after lifetime. One application of 'energy follows thought' is 'The Me That I See - Is the Me That I'll Be'. It's not how you look. It's how you see. See?

The point of this post being that the time comes when you realize that our personalities only operate within those Universal Laws to keep us tied to this planet and tied up in the games that others appear to have a stranglehold on in this reality, which really has come to appear to me to be a giant food-chain, mentally, emotionally and physically...all constantly re-cycled, even within ourselves (eg many dreams). Those with more 'power' feed on those with less. I find no joy in playing either role.

Perhaps being tied to this planet - or this solar system - is really not such a bad thing, after all. Why do we think things are better elsewhere? Constructive competition and a kinder, gentler duality, certainly makes for an interesting and challenging life. I prefer this, to most alternatives.

So, in having come to these views and seeing the limitations of the personality's functioning mechanisms, I, as the personality, am ready and willing to allow the higher aspects of being to take over this vessel I inhabit so it (the higher aspect of 'me') can operate within the Laws at higher, broader levels of expression beyond this reality. So it's meditation for me, my personality focus being on love and light, which I see as the positive path in this reality.

I really am an incurable optimist - even though a rational situational evaluation often points to unyielding despair. What would Bertrand Russell say? I prefer research over meditation. I meditate upon my research. I focus upon Responsibility - which results in love and light - as the fruit, rather than the root.

Hopefully I've managed to express all of this in a way that makes sense to you and that what I've learned on my path may help you in some way to get beyond a lot of the anguish you appear to be feeling.

Thanks again for your thoughtful response. It made perfect sense. I'm actually sort of into the anguish part. You know - the agony and the ecstasy. Some people derive pleasure from pain. Whatever turns you on!

Namaste to you as well orthodoxymoron.

lindabaker wrote:Orthodoxymoron: In the portrait of Q. Elizardbreath, she is holding a ball, looks like glass? What IS that?

I'm actually sort of into the anguish part. You know - the agony and the ecstasy. Some people derive pleasure from pain. Whatever turns you on!

Sanicle wrote:Your response to my post did make me smile orthodoxymoron, particularly the way you finished it.

I'm actually sort of into the anguish part. You know - the agony and the ecstasy. Some people derive pleasure from pain. Whatever turns you on!

You're obviously very happy doing what you're doing and I say good luck to you. Maybe you are one of the Sacred Warriors, obviously a different path to mine. But that's as it should be as we all have our own unique path to tread.

I'm happy in the sense that where there is no pain - there is often no gain - and I do experience pain as I seek to conceptually deal with the world's problems. I wish for things to improve for everyone - but my particular version of paradise seems to gain no traction. In that sense, I am unhappy. Much pain. No gain. Not good.

Today I've looked at this thread from the start and read lots of your posts and I can see more clearly now why we are on different wavelengths at some very basic levels.

For instance, you seem to resent death and therefore anyone or anything you see as threatening to inflict this on all of us here on Earth, whether it be aliens, the PTB, or the Universe itself. I have no fear of death other than the pain I might have to go through when it comes to me. Above and beyond that I see it as a natural part of our evolution and accept that the body wears out, even though the spirit that inhabits it is eternal. I'm actually looking forward to the release from all of the body's demands...the freedom from appetites that necessitates us having to feed on other life forms to experience and maintain existence here in 3D, physically in particular. But you seem to be happy here, still enjoy experiencing the bodily appetites from what I've read, and so want to help establish a planet where you and others can do so in an harmonious and just manner without fear. Fair enough.

I have a problem with deliberately inflicted death - particularly mass murder through war, earth-changes, global-floods, aimed-asteroids, terrorism, etc. Naturally occurring death - particularly after a long and happy life - is an acceptable and inevitable part of life.

I believe, rightly or wrongly, that we personalities are an extension, or creation, of our higher selves to explore and to learn the lessons of this particular 3D manifestation. Maybe curiosity caused us to stay too long, enmeshing ourselves too deeply in the lower energies or maybe we were tricked into being stuck here by the neg ETs as some say to become their food source from the beginning. I don't know. All I do know is that as long as I remain attached to the animal urges that this body entains...the satisfaction of any of its lusts for union, be they mental (eg questions being answered), emotional (eg personal love) or physical (eg sex and food) I will be tied to this reality. The one I'm still struggling with, obviously, is the mental one haha.

Might this solar system be engaging in an experiment in freedom - which threatens the rest of the universe - and which cannot and will not be tolerated - resulting in the mass murder of the human race? Perhaps we were invaded or hijacked. I have tended to doubt the food-source theories. Why is physicality often represented as being sinful? Why is the human body often represented as being no-good or not good enough? Solving problems, having a love life, and eating should be considered to be good things - shouldn't they?

But on that, I also believe that the Higher Self has all those answers. It Knows. There's no need to be continually seeking for answers when one is once more united with the Higher Self and that just seems so peaceful to me, and a much more useful and responsible manifestation in this or any other reality than little me can provide on my own. I would love to be able to be that and offer that for others...all lifeforms, especially when, as I say, I have no personal interest in playing the competetive games that the 3D reality seems to thrive on. Although I am interested to see and understand how it's all being played out here and do wish to help in whatever way I can. But that's become "Not my will but Thine be done" to really be able to help.

I guess if someone knows it all - they really don't have to ask questions - do they? I wish some of these know it alls would specifically answer my questions - point by point - in great detail. Game-playing of various types - seem to help give life meaning and purpose. Challenges are often good things. I'm not very competitive - which is probably why I am poor - and posting on the internet - as an internet warrior - rather than making lots of money in the 'real-world'. I appreciate your willingness to be of help. I am simply trying to make the best of the context in which I find myself. 'Higher-Beings' seem to have a perspective of the univesre which is hidden from humanity. Sometimes I think I hear the universe laughing behind our backs - in derisive condescension. I so hope that I'm wrong. I really wish for the entire universe to be a happy home for all.

But that's me. You carry on you Warrior you. I truly hope you achieve your goals.

Thank-you Sanicle. I prefer to win noble goals for everyone - without fighting. I am not happy with the state of the world. It needs to improve exponentially. I need to improve exponentially. Things are not ideal. All is not well. This whole thing feels like a corrupted experiment - which is being deliberately sabotaged, and run into the ground - as an example to the rest of the universe, to never, ever attempt this experiment again.

lindabaker wrote:Hmm, However, as things become more visible, they can be cleared once and for all. I am still an optimist.