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    Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Solar System

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    Post  orthodoxymoron Fri Jan 14, 2011 2:03 am

    What if - after all of this rambling, ranting, and raving - I finally got what I thought I wanted - and then decided that it was all a very bad idea??? We should be prepared to contradict ourselves, and reverse course, shouldn't we? Again - this thread is designed to make YOU think. It's sort of a mental-gymnasium. This thread should not be a security blanket. I still do not have the answer. I've just been scratching the surface of the way things are supposed to be. I don't claim ownership of any of this. This thread is mostly a rehash of other people's ideas. I truly hope that someone has seen the light from studying this material. Perhaps someday - I'll see the light too!!

    What if I became best friends with the Greys, Dracs, Hybrids, Amen Ra, Lucifer, and the Queen of Heaven? I could see myself being the guy pictured in my avatar. (talking to the Queen of Heaven?) Would this be considered to be 'selling-out'? I really don't know enough, at this point, to really know what the future will hold. I just hope that we all do the right thing - and evolve ethically. We have done a really crappy job ethically over the past several thousand years. We all need to do a helluva lot better. I agree with Raven, that I am a completely ignorant fool. I'm working on it - but there isn't a lot of progress. Hope springs eternal. If I ever had any power at all, I would delegate, delegate, delegate. Here's a video series which most of you might not like - but I really appreciate this sort of thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Usf4Od-VwZY&feature=autoplay&list=PL3DAE6F96819C439A&index=28&playnext=9

    How many of the moons in the solar system do you think have subsurface bases and cities? Should each of these moons become states in the United States of the Solar System? How would you like to be the Representative from Puck? What would Sherri Shriner say? I support solar system tourism. I think that all of the subsurface bases and cities should be selectively accessible by the general public, eventually. (within reason and respectful of all concerned) I wish to eliminate evil from this solar system. Period. I'm not necessarily anti-alien or anti-reptilian. But if you guys mess with me - it will be very, very difficult to gain my trust and compassion in the future. Be careful. I might've been a helluva warrior in a previous life. I hope not - but one never knows. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgSSRE27GQ0 I might stop singing Kumbaya - and start playing the Sonata on the 94th Psalm by Julius Reubke. 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PhZn64p6uM&feature=related 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fMdv2kV9YU&NR=1 3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFrKUk5lwmE&feature=related Look up the words. This solar system will be a paradise - but this won't happen overnight. I continue to be open - yet very wary. Beware of the Descended Disasters. Evil will be exposed and eliminated. Choose wisely. Time is running out - but there is still time to change the road you are on. Namaste.
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    Post  orthodoxymoron Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:35 pm

    Once again - I'd like to take a closer look at Bill Cooper, Commander X, and Branton. I feel quite close to them editorially - but I can't verify their sources or information. Some might think that they are out of date and obsolete - but the passage of time provides the opportunity to evaluate these people. I know who Bill Cooper is - but who is Commander X and Branton? Could they all be the same person? I will try to assemble links to their various videos and material - for quick reference. I have made it no secret that I am not happy with the church or the new age. I'm trying to find a Spiritual Switzerland somewhere between the two. Perhaps Bill Cooper, Commander X, and Branton can help me in my quest. I'm not pushing these sources - but they are the sort of thing I like to look at - which are not the old explanations - but yet which do not get into a lot of complex new age concepts and terminology. This sort of thing fits into my quest for a legitimate and reasonable solar system governmental system. Some of this may seem boring - but the overall picture which emerges is anything but boring. I've covered this territory before - but now I wish to take a second or third look at it. I keep saying this over and over - but just treat all of this fringe material as if it were science fiction - which might contain some elements of truth. Use it as a means to think in unconventional ways. But please don't take it too seriously - or get too upset by it. I'm probably preaching to the choir on this website - but one never knows who might be visiting. I think the insane asylums are going to be packed over the next few years. There is just too much conflicting and upsetting information available to the general public at this time. I support the freedom of speech - but I wish for a responsible and organized way to inform people regarding hidden things and forbidden knowledge. Perhaps this website can help to accomplish this goal. I just realized that I haven't been exposed to a lot of this material linked below. I will make going through all of this my highest priority. Believe it or not, I am attempting to be a Silent Partner of the PTB. I really am trying to imagine myself as being in the shoes of the individual portrayed in my avatar. I am speculating that someone similar to this, might be the chief administrator in this solar system - although there may very well be others above them. Again - a lot of this is speculation - with circumstantial evidence. Obviously - those who really know the full truth aren't holding press conferences to blurt out everything they know - and I can't say that I blame them...

    Bill Cooper:

    1. Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_William_Cooper

    2. Behold a Pale Horse: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2414574348304077734#docid=-7367255331569182231

    3. Mystery Babylon Series (Introduction): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#

    4. Mystery Babylon Series (The Dawn of Man): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=322062192338580080

    5. Mystery Babylon Series (The Ultimate Disaster): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=-7947180418334137151

    6. Mystery Babylon Series (Antiquities): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=-8515207589476663880

    7. Mystery Babylon Series (The Assassins and the Templars): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=4965591825734998419

    8. Mystery Babylon Series (Secret Societies and Vatican II): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=1135906265239711380

    9. Mystery Babylon Series (The Occult and the Third Reich): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=7668134745163879197

    10. Mystery Babylon Series (NWO and Freemasonry): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=-6382076427116550418

    11. Mystery Babylon Series (From Christianity to Babylon): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=2458737986938578435

    12. Mystery Babylon Series (The Godmakers): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=7883892402084884986

    13. Mystery Babylon Series (Maitreya): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=4719756572505397357

    14. Mystery Babylon Series (Osiris and Isis Part 1): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=-6551328214605316337

    15. Mystery Babylon Series (Osiris and Isis Part 2): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=-7519109295749987423

    16. Mystery Babylon Series (Gnosticism): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=-206066985099150303

    17. Mystery Babylon Series (Initiation): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=-91204628453940773

    18. Mystery Babylon Series (Secret Societies and Psychological Warfare Part 1): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=-7472911961003724780

    19. Mystery Babylon Series (The End of the Templars): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=-258086454004961749

    20. Mystery Babylon Series (William Morgan Interview): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=-5650056163643385428

    21. Mystery Babylon Series (Ecumenism): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=1609106881997572639

    22. Mystery Babylon Series (Letter by a Humanist Police Chief): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=6332624093206642079

    23. Mystery Babylon Series (The UN Meditation Room): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=4604236815407306259

    24. Mystery Babylon Series (Sun Worship): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=-2002620178209550141

    25. Mystery Babylon Series (Roshaniya): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=-1445343576831966294

    26. NASA Mooned America: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=3419977368243743187

    27. The Legacy of William Cooper: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=-2829245257205113781

    28. Jordan Maxwell Interview: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=-5315286351751507601

    29. Lansing, Michigan Lecture: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=-3333362025779394383

    30. Atlanta, Georgia Lecture: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7367255331569182231#docid=700020122524128822

    31. Las Vegas (MUFON) Lecture: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7367255331569182231#docid=-4574387786893863155

    32. Day of 9/11: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPH0ym_XxKQ

    Commander X:

    1. Secret Underground Lecture: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5479583028945015769#

    Branton:

    1. Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Branton_Files

    2. The Dulce Book: http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/dulce_book.htm

    3. The Omega Files: http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/omegafileintro.htm

    4. The Coscon Files: http://informantnews.com/joesufos/coscon/index.html

    5. Secrets of the Mojave: http://informantnews.com/joesufos/mojave/index.html

    6. Fire from the Sky: http://informantnews.com/joesufos/fire/index.html

    7. The Underground Nazi Invasion of the United States: http://informantnews.com/joesufos/nazi/index.html

    I am both for religion and against religion - which is why I chose the name orthodoxymoron. I keep thinking of myself as a renegade reformer of the Roman Catholic Church - rather than being an enemy of religion and an enemy of the Creator God of the Universe. I simply have issues with how business is being conducted in this solar system. I probably couldn't do any better if I had the chance, but I feel a responsibility to attempt to help to make things better - in my own way and in my own time. An Episcopalian rector once told me that I looked as though I was carrying the weight of the whole world - and that I looked as though I had lost my last friend. When I was 12 years old - a girl called me 'Droopy'. A Catholic Priest told me not to be so hard on myself. He was a very friendly and animated person. I'd like to know what became of him. I'm truly afraid to know my reincarnational history. Bill Cooper, Commander X, and Branton obviously came from a Christian background - but they obviously knew that something was very, very wrong with business as usual. I guess I'm using their material as a home-base of sorts - as a point of reference - as I'm exposed to more and more disorienting material. I keep wishing to attend some type of church - but so far, all I'm doing is listening to classical sacred music and Latin Masses, while I read the Four Gospels, and assorted theological materials. You can stop going to church - but don't stop studying theology. I continue to think that theology is central to disclosure. Even abraxasinas thought so!

    Who is the most knowledgeable person in the world regarding Bill Cooper, Commander X, and Branton? Who is their rightful heir? Who is continuing what they started? I think a lot of people have been influenced by them - but who has really focused on them? Who has imitated their style and methodology? I'm going to focus on them for the next few weeks anyway. I think there are some Jesuits and Alphabet Agents who probably are the most knowledgeable people in the world regarding Bill Cooper, Commander X, and Branton - and they probably know a lot of damning things about them as well - but these people will probably always remain hidden from the general public. I would LOVE to see the Vatican, NSA, FBI, and CIA files on Bill Cooper, Commander X, and Branton!!!!! Can you imagine?????

    I continue to be skeptical regarding all of the naturally occurring Earth changes, Sun changes, Planet X induced changes, Crossing the Galactic Plane induced changes, etc. I suspect deliberate extermination events disguised as any or all of the above. I continue to think that we are being messed with in the worst way by those who hate us to the core. Is all of this cr@p a continuing human vs human civil war, which might include human/reptile hybrids masquerading as aliens? If any of you human/reptile super-soldiers are reading this - can't we just call the whole damn thing off - and resolve whatever issues exist - in a rational and non-violent manner? Perhaps some of you should consider changing sides. I stand by everything I've said on Avalon 1 and Mists of Avalon. I suspect a hybridization program gone bad. I also suspect an advanced technology program gone bad. But why does the madness have to continue? In 1994 or 1995 Alex Collier stated that the regressive aliens were a heck of a lot more responsible than our leaders (or something to that effect). What the heck is going on? Did some of the hybrids rebel against the Queen of Heaven? Are we dealing with several factions of escaped hybrids - throughout the solar system? Why can't we arrive at some sort of a non-violent solution? Why can't this solar system be administered in a rational, organized, and responsible manner - which guarantees responsible freedom for all races? I haven't decided whether there is a legitimate place for hybridization or not - but it sounds like a lot of the genetic hybridization might be horrific and highly unethical. Once again - I don't know what's really going on - so I continue my little guessing game - posting here and there on the internet - hoping that it does someone some good - somewhere and somehow.

    I just finished listening to the 'Dawn of Man' broadcast - and in it, Bill states that he is a Christian who follows the words attributed to Jesus - and that he does not follow any church or religion. I suspected that he was a Red Letter Christian - but this was confirmation. I am a Red Letter Christian, as well - but I have only about 5% of Bill's brains, guts, and determination. Bill supported the Teachings of Jesus and the U.S. Constitution - and so do I.

    In Cooper's 1989 MUFON lecture - he stated that the 'aliens' presented a hologram of the Crucifixion of Christ. Did ET record the crucifixion - or did they project a hologram of the crucifixion from a UFO? Here is a link to paintings of the Crucifixion of Christ - with UFO's in the sky. Notice the image near the middle of the first page, in which a UFO appears to be illuminating the crucifixion. Could the UFO be projecting a hologram? Just wondering. http://www.google.com/images?rlz=1T4GGIR_enUS216US217&q=crucifixion+ufo+image&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=SsHBTNS9EMqs8Ab52ejMBg&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CCQQsAQwAA

    I've been listening to a lot of the Cooper shows - and when I finish - I'll start over again. Is anyone else listening to the linked shows and lectures in the first post of this thread? I think this is foundational information. Obviously, we can consider everything from every source, but I think that if we neglect the Cooper stuff, that we may very well get a lot of other things wrong. I don't think we have the luxury of getting a lot of things wrong at this point. Conduit Closing.

    I've been playing these old Cooper shows as I fall asleep - so I consciously listen to the first 10-20 minutes - and then I listen to the rest as I sleep. 'Uncle Bill's Bedtime Stories'! I'm trying to program myself with the Cooper material - for a couple of weeks. I am also playing the Cooper shows as I do various things throughout the day and night. I know I'm crazy - but I'm finding these shows to be somewhat calming - despite their controversial nature. Again - I don't wish to fight with the elites. I wish to understand them - and to ultimately partner with them on a higher road than they are presently travelling. I could possibly turn out to be their best buddy! I really and truly do not wish for anarchy and violence to sweep the world. Just the opposite. I think that most of us are deluded - and that we need to rethink everything. All of my internet posting over the last couple of years are my attempt to rethink a lot of things in an open manner. You folks who may have been monitoring my internet activities really don't have to guess about much. What you see is what you get. I've pretty much been blurting out everything - which really isn't that much. I'm too screwed-up to be much of a threat.

    I am a huge contradiction. I don't like crucifixes, Dagon fish-headgear, crowns, thrones, blasphemous titles, corrupt and violent intrigue, astrological theology, a bloody communion which focuses upon human sacrifice, indulgences, crusades, inquisitions, and other excesses and abuses. I actually like the bright colors of the robes and stained-glass windows, the churches and cathedrals (they are already built, and should be enjoyed and preserved), the processions, the pomp and circumstance, the fragrance of the incense, the Gregorian chanting, the Latin, the classical and even showy pipe-organ and choral music, the assembled faithful singing in one accord, and the educated oratory of Jesuit priests - but this must be accompanied by consistent Christ-like living which arises from focusing upon Responsibility and the Teachings of Jesus. I think that Pope John Paul I was on the right track - but he was mysteriously murdered after being pope for only 33 days. Consider carefully the number 33. Was the timing coincidental? I think not. Church governance and policy should harmonize with the U.S. Constitution - rather than being at war with it. Notice the Treaty of Verona in the 'Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom' thread. The princes of the church should be confident, competent - and humble. There should be a teachable spirit - with no hint of arrogance. I don't wish to reinvent the wheel. I simply wish to make it completely round and true - so that it rotates smoothly. There is the Constitution Party - but they have some fundamentalist Christian additions to the Constitution. There is no political party which follows the Constitution - plus nothing. There is no Christian church which follows the Teachings of Jesus - plus nothing. Corruption and Cruelty are at the top of my Fecal List. Politcs is Religion. Religion is Politics. The question is 'Shall we have Fascism - or Shall we have Freedom?' Responsibility is the truth which shall set us free.

    aragami wrote:pretty sure commander x was an amalgamation of several different people

    You may be correct - but the voice, concepts, and choice of words sound a lot like Bill Cooper. Commander X mentioned Bill Cooper by name in the video. Also - the length of the video is nearly identical to Bill's 1989 MUFON lecture. It's not inconceivable to me that Bill went underground after 911 to avoid really being taken out. He had legion enemies. The story connected with his death seems contrived and hokey to me. Bill spoke of dying on his doorstep - and then ironically - he dies on his doorstep. I could be wrong - and I hinted at this theory on AV1 - but I didn't blurt it out. It should've been obvious to the alphabet types anyway - without any hinting from the general public. Tangentially - Alex Collier hinted in a 1994 interview (I think) that Jesus was a composite character. I think this might be a distinct possibility. We may be in for a lot of surprises about a lot of things. They may need those damn FEMA camps to contain us when we go crazy. I hope not - but I am apprehensive regarding the true state of affairs in this solar system - and with the potential public reaction to the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. So help us God.

    Carol wrote:I have to laugh about Alex Collier. However, I also read where the Pleiadians claim the following - "Before leaving Earth, left a spiritual leader called Jmmanuel, who later was known as Jesus. Jmmanuel was a very evolved soul, whose father was Gabriel of the Pleiades system and Mary who was of Lyran descent."

    Chew on that one for awhile.


    Thank-you Carol. I like Alex Collier a lot. I think he knows the whole truth. I think he has told us a lot of truth - but I think that he knows a lot more - but he has told us all that he is able to - at this time. I also think that he has had to mix the truth with a certain amount of fable and bs. I think this may have been necessary - under the circumstances. In the movie 'Contact' - there is a big poster (outside of the antenna array area) of Jesus - with the words 'Jesus Was An Alien'. What if Gabriel is the equivalent of God the Father? What if Michael is the equivalent of God the Son (Jesus)? What if Lucifer is the equivalent of the Holy Spirit (Mary)? I continue to speculate about a three-way power struggle in this solar system - going back thousands, or tens of thousands, of years. The Nazis, Masons, and Magicians? Teutonic Zionists, Zionists, and Christ-like Responsible Freedom Proponents? Amen Ra, Hathor/Isis, and Horus? I think the Archangels, Sirius, and Tibet may have a lot to do with everything. Did Mary steal fire (forbidden technology and hybridization genetics?) from Gabriel? Is there a hidden war between Gabriel and Mary (the Queen of Heaven)? Is Jesus trying to break up the fight - and bring peace to this solar system? Consider this video clip once again. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6eTbhHE0jM&feature=PlayList&p=C271BC15F76286EC&index=0&playnext=1YouTube- Is the man in the black suit really Gabriel? Is Jesus really Michael? Is the woman dressed in red really Lucifer? Why can't Gabriel, Michael, and Lucifer unite under the banner of Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom aka the United States of the Solar System? Why can't we keep the best of everything - and discard the worst of everything? Why does this have to be so damn hard? Is Saturday sacredness connected with Gabriel? Is Sunday sacredness connected with Lucifer? Or is it the other way around? Jesus didn't tell us to keep any day sacred - did he? I used to go to church on both Saturday and Sunday (I sang in choirs) - but now I don't go at all. I think that services should be offered every day - and that no particular sacredness should be ascribed to any day. Church attendance should not be expected or required - but it should always be an option for those who wish to participate - seven days a week. Thou shalt have no gods or goddesses - and remember to keep every day holy. World without end. I'm continuing to listen to Bill Cooper - and I'm liking what I'm hearing. I continue to think that this is foundational material. It's sort of like getting algebra and trigonometry mastered - before moving on to calculus. I would direct all new esoteric and conspiracy researchers to Bill Cooper first - and to get his material completely absorbed before moving on to other writers and speakers. He programs people with information - without programming them with anger and hatred. This is a good thing.

    Here is a Protestant view regarding the 'Woman Who Rides the Beast' aka the 'Whore of Babylon'. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5Ke7Tn3uOU&NR=1 I am not endorsing this video. I include it only to provide another perspective. Obviously - I have been considering the possibility that the 'Whore of Babylon' may be the 'Queen of Heaven' rather than being a particular location or church. Again - I have no animosity. I'm just trying to figure out what has been going on throughout history. I have a feeling that most of us are deluded - including me. Does anyone know how much the Whore of Babylon charges? Fifty Cities? Why is she called the 'Whore of Babylon'? Because she babbles on and on and on and on and I'd better stop...

    The following comment is just a brain-fart. In the Mass - the wafer or host is round - and some say that it is representative of the Sun - which is representative of the Sun God. Then, via transubstantiation, it becomes the Son of God. Have you ever thought of it in this manner? Sun > Son? I continue to think that most of our research topics should be addressed with the Roman Catholic Church clearly in mind - simply because all roads lead to Rome - and the Roman church is really the biggest game in town. To ignore this aspect of world history and the present state of affairs - is to really miss the boat. I see a central role for a completely reformed church. If the church is not reformed - we are really and truly $crewed. I continue to think of myself as a Renegade Roman Catholic Reformer - who is attempting to liberate the church - and hence the world - whether anyone wishes to be liberated, or not! Liberated? Liberated from what? If you only knew...

    I've been listening to Bill Cooper a lot lately - and I like Bill a lot - but I am completely different than him. I am going in a completely different direction. I'm not opposed to Bill - it's just that my conclusions and goals are very different in nature and style. I am much more passive and globalist. I'm trying to invite myself to the elite's party - and move them to a much higher road - rather than engaging in trench warfare with them. But I'm much more naive than Bill - and I need his guidance. Now I'm going to listen to another show...

    The 1970 movie with Glen Ford - 'The Brotherhood of the Bell' dovetails with Bill Cooper's material > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pst-2wprw6c Once again - I do not wish to reinvent the wheel. I simply wish for the psychology and ethics of every faction and class to be significantly raised. I'm really not trying to be a Knight in Shining Armour - just a critical yet silent uninvited parter of the PTB. I'm trying to be both the worst enemy and the best friend of the PTB. Now I'm going to listen to another Cooper show. This is the clip I keep going back to > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2414574348304077734#docid=-7367255331569182231 This clip should probably be listened to over and over and over and....

    Three of the links to the Mystery Babylon Series no longer work (Assassins and the Templars, Secret Societies and Vatican II, and Roshaniya). Why is this? What changed? Is this censorship at work? Any ideas? I've had two of my websites taken over (even though I was paid-up for years). One of my websites was taken off the internet completely (with no explanation). Two websites I have posted on have either been shut-down or closed to posting (with numerous technical problems). Numerous links on threads sudden don't work anymore. What the hell is going on?

    Bill Cooper continues to be a good starting point for those who wish to wade into the madness and bs. He didn't get everything right. He was a flawed human being. He didn't know about a lot of things which we are exposed to now. But he was really quite the trailblazer. Please consider the material on this thread. I mostly point people toward other people. I have been accused of being an egotistical ignoramus - and I quite agree. But I still have enough sense to point people toward people who knew, and know, a helluva lot more than I do. Bill Cooper continues to be my starting-point and reference-point in this crazy world of fringe-research. In a memo, President Bill Clinton referred to Bill Cooper as being the most dangerous radio-host in America. I think Bill got to the heart of the matter - especially in the early 1990's. I keep thinking that Bill survived that 'shootout' - and went underground - perhaps surfacing as Commander X. I will now rewatch the video you posted. Thanks again. I'm reading 'SS Brotherhood of the Bell' by Joseph Farrell, and 'Rise of the Fourth Reich' by Jim Marrs. We really are having to deal with some horrendous problems. I hope we survive.
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    Post  orthodoxymoron Fri Jan 14, 2011 2:49 pm

    I just wish to say one more time, that I'm pretty much upset with everyone and everything. This whole mess is insane. I don't think it had to happen at all - and that once it did happen - the insanity was mismanaged. I might not have been able to do any better - but that's just the way I feel today. I have spoken with no one - online or in-person - who I really and truly resonate with. I feel very little warmth or love directed toward me - and my own love is growing colder and colder - each and every day. Could Gabriel be the Judge? Could Lucifer be the Jailer? Could Michael and Humanity be the Prisoners on Death Row? Just wondering. I am more disillusioned than anyone can possibly imagine. That's why my house and my life are a goddamned mess. I get the picture that the great big guns of the universe are poised to perform a great big extermination - with righteous indignation - and very little compassion - from their great big UFO's. I get the feeling that whoever created us is really disappointed with us - and looks upon us with disgust. That's right. I'm mad at all the damn gods and goddesses - good and evil. Go ahead. Burn me you bastards. But burn yourselves as well - and put yourselves out of the universe's misery. I might have this completely wrong. Please forgive me if I do. But think long and hard about these five video clips. What the hell is really going on? No one seems to be telling the truth. I'm beginning to think that the entire universe is some sort of a Regressive Theocracy or Universal Church. This might have been necessary in the past - but please make an exception for this solar system. We've gone through too much character building BS to go back to business as usual. If the rest of the universe wishes to live under Theocratic Enslavement - then so be it. BTW - when was the last universe-wide election???? Sinners in the hands of loving gods and goddesses???? Can you feel the love tonight????

    1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6eTbhHE0jM

    2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9mFn9EhgU4

    3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyKy8_sF4xY

    4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8YK_ad7Us0&NR=1

    5. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZZvtQtdbzM&feature=related

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    Post  orthodoxymoron Sat Jan 15, 2011 6:16 pm

    This is just a renewed plea to go through this thread as sort of a study-guide. There is a fair amount of repetition, which is both by accident and design. I will be doing some editing and tidying-up in the coming weeks. Look at all of the links. Read all of the material - including the fine-print. I'm not a know it all. I'm just starting to grasp some of this material. Once again - this is a study-guide or a mental-gymnasium. There is more to this thread than meets the eye. I didn't just pull this out of an anatomical black hole. Even though it appears to be quite disjointed and random - it really is not. I am very concerned that as the general public is bombarded with all of the new information - that many of us will react irresponsibly - which could make things a lot worse. I have tried to be balanced. I have tried to inject humor, irreverence, sarcasm, speculation, music, etc. - to try to break the ice - and to hopefully help people to learn about some very upsetting information and concepts - in a light-hearted manner - hopefully to keep them from running in the streets, or going completely insane. I think a lot of people are going to lose it in the coming years. Take your time. Take it easy. Learn about life, the universe, and everything - in your own time, and in your own way. If it gets too overwhelming - STOP! I just returned from the funeral of a young person who died violently. This really made me face myself, and think. Life is precious! Life is ernest! Life is real! Reverence Life! I really wish for things to work out well for ALL BEINGS in this solar system - even for the regressives. They might be regressive for some very good reasons. I don't know. If I have hurt anyone with my speculations and brash internet posting - I am truly sorry. I just think that a lot of hidden things need to be revealed - and that a lot of crud and corruption needs to get cleaned-up. I continue to agree with Raven, that I am a completely ignorant fool. I talk endlessly about responsibility - yet I continue to be irresponsible. I am a hypocrite. The existing PTB are probably ten times smarter and more competent than I will ever be - but I still feel obligated to try to understand the hidden things - and to second-guess the PTB (human and otherwise). I'm really NOT a Vengeful Goyim! The PTB in the Hands of a Completely Ignorant Goyim!!!!
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    Post  orthodoxymoron Sat Jan 15, 2011 9:45 pm

    I seem to be fixated upon the Queen of Heaven - in positive and negative ways. Was/is she Amen Ra's boss - or is she ALL of the gods and goddesses - including Lucifer, Gabriel, Michael, Hathor, Isis, Mary, the Prince of This World, the God of This World - and Amen Ra? I'm trying to utilize Occam's Razor to cut the crap - and I'm trying to eliminate Hegel and Machiavelli. But I really do like Sun Tzu. Watch this lecture by Robert Morningsky. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxFzH3goUsc&NR=1 Listen especially to what he says about Amen Ra's boss. It fits with what I have been speculating about for a couple of years now. Ra might be the One and Only God of This World - but there seems to be a Reptilian Queen of Heaven - who seems to wear the pants in this Solar System. Who is Ra - really? Who is Lucifer - really? Who is Jesus - really? Who is Mary - really? Who is Kali - really? Ra Ka Pharaoh = Rockefeller? Ra's Shield = Rothschild? Ra's Legion = Religion? Old and New Test(Amen)ts? Think, think, think. Once again - please forgive my slightly irreverent and off-color humor. I really mean no disrespect to anyone. I'm just trying to break the ice. Take a look at this very interesting video clip. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMdCfWNfPf0&feature=related Could this be the true form of the Queen of Heaven? There is something which rings strangely and hauntingly true about this short clip. Could this be very close to at least part of the truth? Can the Queen inhabit dozens of various bodies - century after century - male and female? Could her soul be similar or even identical to our souls? Did Humans start the hostilities - or was it the other way around? I'm surprisingly neutral regarding all of this. I feel like the interviewer in the clip. Perhaps someday I will be involved in such an interview. I don't know why I said that. Check this out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMVKc5aw14g&feature=related Consider the possibility of a Vengeful Reptilian Queen of Heaven - Ruling Humanity by Secrecy - Via a Controlled Patriarchy, and a Subjugation of Women. Pretty subtle and clever. Read through the Lacerta File very carefully. http://www.metatech.org/2010-2011/the_lacerta_files_interview_with_reptilian_alien.html I don't know if this is genuine, or not, but it may contain at least some factual information. Take this with a sea of salt. I continue to think that science fiction is an important part of this thread. Most of us don't have Cosmic Clearance - so we have to make due with the scraps of information we get fed in the mass media. The higher ups don't want us simple cattle to stampede! Run! Goyim! Run!! My computer is running very poorly - so I assume that someone doesn't like what I'm posting. Could you guys and gals just monitor me by going online, like everyone else - instead doing all of that fancy back-door Cray Supercomputer BS? I'd really like to have my computer back. Besides, the interdimensional reptilian spies are keeping me under constant watch. I couldn't resist. I know you are just doing your jobs. But really - I mean absolutely no harm. More interesting clips. 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpgOkr1ngew&feature=related 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3A6_blpqpU 3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b365_qJEpDg&feature=related Check out these BBC clips from 'Dr. Who'. They are really quite good overall - but some parts are sort of dumb.

    1. Hungry Earth: http://www.veoh.com/browse/videos/category/scifi_and_fantasy/watch/v201120667eWbBc5e

    2. Cold Blood: http://www.veoh.com/browse/videos/category/scifi_and_fantasy/watch/v20134239KT5yFj3g

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    Post  Jenetta Sat Jan 15, 2011 10:24 pm

    Orthodoxy have you ever considered putting all this material from this thread into a book? Happened to read the Lacerta files on this Thread (do you have the material in another post as well?) and find the material quite fascinating as I am interested in the evolution of mankind our species.
    I do believe that you are a genius who very few are taking seriously. Keep up the good work.
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    Post  orthodoxymoron Sat Jan 15, 2011 10:59 pm

    Jenetta wrote:Orthodoxy have you ever considered putting all this material from this thread into a book? Happened to read the Lacerta files on this Thread (do you have the material in another post as well?) and find the material quite fascinating as I am interested in the evolution of mankind our species.
    I do believe that you are a genius who very few are taking seriously. Keep up the good work.
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    Thank-you Jenetta. This material is so highly speculative and controversial, that I'm very afraid of putting everything into book form - and taking the show on the road, so to speak. I think I would either be assassinated, or I would fall flat on my face. I'm really just trying to develop my own understanding, by publicly posting, in a very limited manner. I tend to think that the right beings (human and otherwise) might occasionally read these threads, and that this might be somehow helpful to the evolution of life and governance in this solar system. I really think this is playing with fire - and I have a healthy respect for the consequences of getting it wrong. This is just an ongoing science fiction show, which I am living within, each and every day. I am trying to approximate what the esoteric reality might be - but I have no idea how close to the mark any of this is. The more I research and speculate - the less I seem to know. I would love to attend a lecture at Oxford or Cambridge - in a large and old lecture hall - given by a panel of Elites, Jesuits, Agents, Politicians, Theologians, Scientists, Reptilians, Greys, Hybrids, et al. You get the picture. Just the classified facts - followed by a fieldtrip through a Deep Underground Military Base! But then I would know too much - and we all know what that would mean...
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    Post  orthodoxymoron Sun Jan 16, 2011 8:39 am

    If there is an underground reptilian society - should we look to them for clues regarding how to properly conduct human society - or are they too different from us, to be able to profitably implement reptilian models within human societal situations? I tend to think that we should carefully examine all societal models - both actual and imaginary - and then implement the best of that which we have examined - in the context of a Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom United States of the Solar System. I think we should look at all of the possibilities before arriving at any major decisions. Should human and reptilian societies interact with each other - or should they be isolated from each other? Segregation? Separate but Equal? Integration? Forced Busing? (Greys vs the Board of Education?) I think we should consider all of the possibilities regarding just about everything - all of the time. But this is easier said than done. If there has been a Reptilian Queen of Heaven and Earth - at the center of things - for thousands of years - should they continue with business as usual - or should there be a fundamental shift in solar system governance? I tend to think that credit should be given where credit is due - and that criticism should be leveled when and where it is appropriate. Most beings (human and otherwise) are probably a mixture of good and evil. The good should not blind us to the evil - and the evil should not blind us to the good. We need to learn constructive critical thinking, with extreme discernment. History is a mess - but if any of us had been in charge - would it have been any better? A lot of us are good - because we have lacked the opportunity to be evil. Perhaps most of us are Dr. Jeckyls and Mr. Hydes. Everyone has their price - and many of us sell out at firesale prices. Should important decisions be expected of those who have incomplete information and preparation? Is it possible for those with good intentions - to pave the road to hell? I am literally begging humans and otherwise - to study this thread - and then tell me what you think - in a polite, intelligent, and detailed manner. I'm simply trying to think about difficult subjects, by discussing them with others. I do not wish to play the part of the charlatan. I say that I don't know - over and over and over again - and this is not a figure of speech, or a becoming humility. I mean it. When I feel as though I am being set-up for something bad - am I just being paranoid - or are 'they' really out to get me? Is the lack of participation on this thread, really just the quiet before the storm? Are beady-eyed medieval scholars going through this thread word by word - and placing thermite and micro-nukes on its major supporting columns - to bring about the controlled demolition of the principles and concepts presented throughout this thread? I wonder. Things seem to be strangely quiet. If a solar system governmental change in the direction of the editorial bias of this thread ever occurs - beware of subversive scuttling efforts to sabotage any changes for the better. Again - I support evolutionary change - with plenty of continuity. We need to cure a very sick patient, without killing them. Again - I wish to change everything, without changing anything. Sometimes plenty of rope is provided - in the hope that an opponent will hang themselves. Am I just being fed more and more rope - while the big guns wait and watch? The subject of Solar System Governance will most likely be a long-term infowar - as it should be.
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    Post  orthodoxymoron Sun Jan 16, 2011 5:17 pm

    If you or I were a reptilian being, who lived in an underground base or city, how would we react to a United States of the Solar System? If these hypothetical beings live for many hundreds of years, don't have to sleep, have complete reincarnational recall - lifetime after lifetime - and are governed in a theocratic manner - they would literally be living in a completely different world and consciousness. Would this existence necessarily be wrong or evil? Would they be able to continue their present way of life, in a Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Solar System? Would humanity understand them - or even try to understand them? Could the races ever forgive each other for past misdeeds, enslavements, exterminations, various and sundry atrocities? Would openness and disclosure - result in war (including yet another solar system wide star war)? I still don't know enough to properly answer these questions. What if both races are fundamentally flawed and wrong? I recently lashed-out at the gods and goddesses (good and evil - human and otherwise). I'm just frustrated with everything. I keep trying to be happy, figure things out, overcome my chronic fatigue and discomfort - but nothing seems to work. I really do not wish to fight with anyone - human or otherwise. I have spoken of the possibility of living on Phobos for a couple of months with some Greys and Dracs - and I really wasn't kidding. Is there a Human Jane Goodall - who studies the Reptilian Race? Is there a Reptilian Jane Goodall - who studies the Human Race? I'll bet there is (on both counts) - but we don't get to read about them in National Geographic! I desire that things work out well for ALL CONCERNED. I wish for cooler heads to prevail. Can't we just all get along? Even if the editorial content of this thread is not incorporated to any significant degree - and even if I continue to be a miserable wretch - I still think that RESPONSIBILITY should be focused upon by ALL RACES - regardless of their nature or history. I really do not wish to be a man of conquest or coercion. I really wish to be a simple and passive man. I really would enter into peaceful and rational dialogue with Lucifer, Amen Ra, the Queen of Heaven, Greys, Dracs, PTB, etc, etc. They'd probably all think I was a completely ignorant fool - but I would genuinely try to understand them. I am presently trying to understand them. I really don't like to fight. I bring peace - and not a sword. Don't be frightened. I mean no harm. I am of peace. Always.

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    The Visitors said they were of peace. They lied. Are we primarily dealing with an Ancient and Ongoing Human vs Hybrid ("V's") Civil War? Do the Hybrids have the upper hand - even though they remain mostly hidden? Are they preparing to take over Earth completely - rather than simply ruling from the shadows? Will most of us be driven off-world, exterminated, or enslaved? BTW - no inside information - so don't pack your bags just yet. Did ancient Humans create all manner of hybrids - including the Dracs, Greys, and Annunaki - with forbidden technology (possibly obtained from Regressive Interdimensional Reptilians?). Did they obtain and/or invent computers, nukes, antigravity-spacecraft etc. Did they enslave the hybrids, and demand worship? Did the hybrids rebel (led by Lucifer?) - and confiscate most of the forbidden technology? Did the hybrids steal 'Fire from the Gods'? Are the 'aliens' really rebel hybrids - who we created? Does the 'Original Sin' involve all of the above? Have the renegade hybrids been raising hell with us for thousands of years? Are they presently considering exterminating us? If we somehow eliminated or removed the renegade hybrids - would all of the fancy technology be in the best of hands - or the worst of hands? Do we need the hybrids to reign us in? Should my fantasy of a Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Solar System include hybrids? If most of my questions are answered affirmatively - how should this mess properly be resolved? Is it going to take someone like Anna in 'V' to properly promote and institute a Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Solar System? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahjPQjQGdbU Would this be a Supreme Contradiction? If there really is a Queen of Heaven who rules this Solar System - she might really have to sign-off on the concept before it could ever become a reality - and I'm very Sirius.

    If reincarnation is a reality - I am very afraid regarding what I might have done, or who I might have been. Progressive Interdimensional Reptilians vs Regressive Interdimensional Reptilians? The Great Controversy Between Christ and Satan in the Conflict of the Ages? The horror. I'd really like to know the complete history of all types of technology, governments, religions, etc. The history of genetic hybridization especially interests me. I feel somewhat close to learning what actually happened - yet I feel as though I might never find out the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. I'd really like to know the true state of affairs just prior to the Luciferian Rebellion and War in Heaven. What were the motivating factors? How can we properly proceed as a civilization - if we don't know our true history? It seems as if we have been dumbed-down and held-down for thousands or even millions of years. This seems to be ongoing. What was the Original Sin? What really went wrong? Why is there a Continuing Sin? How will this madness be properly resolved? By keeping everyone in the dark? Is it possible that Lucifer stole all manner of technology (Fire from the Gods?) - including genetic hybridization - and got a multitude of souls (Fallen Angels?) to go along with him/her in this matter? Did an extensive technology and hybridization program commence in secrecy - while keeping humanity (as we know humanity to be) completely in the dark regarding all of this? Is the rest of the universe unable to do anything about this because we are being held hostage - and used as human shields? Or - are we all a party to the madness - whether we remember agreeing to the rebellion, or not? Someone needs to start telling the truth - with absolutely no bull$h!t. It seems to me that we need some sort of a changing of the guard in this solar system - or some sort of a solar system governmental change. I have expressed certain preferences - but I don't know the whole story, or what is really going on - so take everything I have said, with a boatload of salt. I certainly hope that those who are in the top positions in this solar system - really know what the hell they are doing - and that they are doing that which is in the very best interest of the human race. Of course, I wish for things to work out well for all races - but I don't have a clue regarding what any other races are really like. I'm just very tired of what seems to be an endless stream of bull$h!t. I want this to stop NOW. Sorry for the negativity - but I am simply trying to be honest. This is probably a mistake. The truth is so overrated. So many shows. So little time. I continue to think that the shows are an important part of research and disclosure. They help us to think about a wide variety of possibilities - so that the truth won't make us run in the streets, start a star war, or go nucking futs. A part of me would like to be involved in a real "V" situation (without a lot of the bad aspects shown in the series). Another part of me is very afraid of how bad and devastating a real "V" scenario might be. I'd really like to see a future where all races got along - and where there were tours of ALL of the Underground Bases throughout the Solar System. I see no reason why this Solar System can't be a Paradise rather than a War Zone. But I still don't know the whole story - and I continue to think that this old, old story is very violent and sad. No matter what happens - there will be no gloating or unkindness on my part. I just want the madness to end - for ALL CONCERNED. If we all got a bong - we'd all get along!


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    Post  orthodoxymoron Sun Jan 16, 2011 6:15 pm

    I'd like to take a positive and a negative look at the Jesuits. I sometimes joke that they monitor my posting activities, and that they're out to get me. Whether or not this is true, these people are quite controversial. I'm really trying to understand how the world is really run - and the Jesuits seem to be close to the center of things - for better or for worse. Here are some videos to get the ball rolling! So often, the subject is treated either as a nasty slam, or as a whitewash. I like the idea of calmly discussing various subjects - especially the controversial ones. My initial bias is that the Jesuits are basically good people who are in the middle of a very messy situation, which can sometimes be darker than midnight. I like the idea of the purification and reformation of the Roman Catholic Church - rather than just writing this organization off - in a condescending and triumphalistic manner. So I continue to think of myself as sort of a Renegade Roman Catholic - even though I have never been a member of the Roman Catholic Church. Do you see my point? I once attended a scholarly lecture given by a black Jesuit from San Francisco. They are quite the scholars, you know. It's the infiltration, subversion, and poison-cup thing that I have the most trouble with! I think that Jesuits know more about what's really going on in the solar system than just about anyone else. It's almost as if we need to be wise as Jesuits - and harmless as doves! Sorry guys! I couldn't resist! I'm especially interested in the relationship between the Jesuits and the Queen of Heaven - especially regarding the Jesuit General aka the Black Pope. Does the Black Pope meet regularly with the Black Madonna? I realize that this is playing with fire BIG TIME - but I have no agenda or hatred whatsoever. I actually like the current Jesuit General - but I don't even want to think about what he might have to deal with. But here I am - trying to think the thoughts of the Jesuit General and the Queen of Heaven - after them - as they travel underground at twice the speed of sound - on a magneto-leviton train. "Next Stop - Washington DC! The President is Waiting!"

    Gotta go! The St. Louis Jesuits are after me!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wD24wTVz3c

    1. 35th General Congregation of the Jesuits https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjqOkk0Jo7M&feature=related

    2. A Year With the Jesuits (6 parts) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4f5q4MtrSA&feature=fvw

    3. Spoon Fed (7 parts) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfKOQEp3VPo&feature=related

    4. A World is Not Enough (3 parts) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GTEfxTgp3c&feature=related

    5. The History of the Jesuits (9 parts) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO57VT5FrHE&feature=related

    6. Who Are the Jesuits? (2 parts) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAO5jonha24&feature=related

    7. Bill Hughes - Jesuit Infiltration (6 parts) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2H0FZHaakA&feature=related

    8. Bob Bush - Former Jesuit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayas_YJX-qE&feature=related

    9. Alberto Rivera 1 - Former Jesuit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zDHxhUJLnQ&feature=related

    10. Alberto Rivera 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZErwZqwD0Q&feature=channel

    11. Alberto Rivera 3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-wNlvk6WVI&feature=channel

    12. Alberto Rivera 4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iumeIxNwO6Y&feature=channel

    13. Alberto Rivera 5 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=886jZ2VN4Gk&feature=channel

    14. Alberto Rivera 6 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ9u65hYsck&feature=channel

    15. Alberto Rivera 7 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0rLHbn2ug0&feature=channel

    16. Malachi Martin 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TUw5TQEszw&feature=email&email=comment_reply_received

    17. Malachi Martin 2 (9 parts) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xhnr0VC3Fio&feature=related

    18. Malachi Martin 3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zT9xRMwXaZI&feature=related

    I am looking for a big-tent solution - which does not involve peace at any price. Again - I am trying to unite the Teachings of Jesus, the U.S. Constitution, and the Latin Mass. I will attempt an analysis of this material in the next post. I am not trying to stir things up. I am trying to resolve things. Some might say that this constitutes hate-speech - but I include it to state the historical problem - which many think is a continuing problem. To solve a problem - one must understand the problem. There is a story - and I can't locate the source - which describes 'The Great Controversy' being torn in two (the hard way) by unseen hands! Could the chief administrator of the Roman Catholic Church be The Queen of Heaven? Could this be the 'Whore of Babylon' - rather than the RCC? See - I'm thinking that the RCC might have to deal with more secret and hidden problems than we can possibly imagine. I just watched 'Stargate Continuum' - and the scene where Ba'al and Katesh aka Vala are in their spaceship - and are preparing to attack and enslave Earth - particularly impressed me. Might the RCC have had to deal with something like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyKy8_sF4xY Could there be a real-life Katesh (Vala) aka Queen of Heaven - who controls us by controlling the Roman Catholic Church? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3A6_blpqpU Please don't consider this post to be hateful on my part. I'm just trying to understand. BTW - are there any Jesuits out there who can point me to a book or website - from the Roman Catholic perspective - which analyzes 'The Great Contoversy' - from cover to cover? I know all about the Plagiarism and Investigative Judgment problems. I also know that most Jesuits have read this book from cover to cover - and have it in their libraries. Here is a possible positive future for the Queen of Heaven. http://www.hulu.com/watch/108637/stargate-sg-1-the-powers-that-be I'm a real Pain in Uranus - aren't I?

    This is just a request to any governments, factions, or individuals - human or otherwise - to not do anything violent or destructive. We can argue, fuss, and fume - and try to work things out - but violence and destruction are not solutions. They simply create more problems. If there are too many people - we can institute a program of responsible reproduction. Undesirables can be educated and reformed into being desirables. Please consider evolutionary changes - rather than revolutionary changes. Human history is full of death, destruction, and incomprehensible stupidity. This needs to change - starting right now. Have a terrific day Satan, Lucifer, Gods, Goddesses, Angels, Demons, Archangels, Illuminati, Megalomaniacs, Reptilians, Greys, et al. I'd like to meet all of you when this mess gets resolved. We need a Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Solar System aka The United States of the Solar System based on the U.S. Constitution and Teachings of Jesus (Responsibility).

    So - Lucifer - are you male or female? Who are you - really? Where do you spend most of your time? What the hell are you doing? Or - do you even exist? Is there really just a Council of Ten - or something like that - which rules the solar system? I keep talking about 10,000 representatives - of all nations and races - from throughout the solar system - as an ideal number - for a non-corrupt and organized-decentralized solar system government. But is this too many? What is the ideal method of solar system governance? Perhaps I have not carefully considered ALL of the possibilities, before arriving at my present biases and conclusions. Perhaps I should contemplate the general subject of solar system governance - rather than focusing on a particular type of solar system governance. Or - should I just shut-up, and not even think about it? Is 'One Nation Under Satan' the way things have always been - and always will be? Is everything else simply an illusion, and wishful thinking? Is the whole damn thing set in concrete? We're supposed to take 'baby-steps' - but if we can't see the big-picture - how are we supposed to know which direction to take these 'baby-steps'? This whole thing seems like a sick nightmare of a joke. Mumbo-Jumbo and BS are everywhere. What a mess!! So - when do we get the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? Or - is the truth so bad - that we would all commit suicide? How should one properly communicate with whoever the hell is running this $crewed-up solar system? Is anybody out there? Anyone???

    You know - I'm just going to imagine that The United States of the Solar System is already a reality - and that 2,500 of the 10,000 representatives meet every day at St. Mary's Cathedral, in San Francisco. I'll imagine that UFO's occasionally land on the premises - transporting representatives to and from the various moons and planets of the solar system. Am I walking into an ambush with this sort of thinking? Am I playing into the Deception of the Millenium? I'm just asking the Solar System PTB and Galactic PTB to read through this thread - to at least get a feel for what the Thoughtful Goyim are thinking these days. I will continue to communicate my delusional thinking to maybe a dozen people on this website. Perhaps something constructive will come of it. Freedom is key - and the key to freedom is responsibility. These two words should be studied endlessly. A constitution which maximizes freedom and responsibility should be sought - and Comparative Constitutions should also be an ongoing and relentless study. There probably is some sort of a dictatorial Council of Ten - with a ten-foot tall Drac serving as chairman of the board - because We the People are too irresponsible to govern ourselves. I'm pi$$ed-off at everyone - especially myself. I think we can all do a helluva lot better. This is probably the crazy-stage - where people are being hit with all sorts of controversial and conflicting information and concepts - of which probably 20% is actually true or constructive. If we survive this stage - then perhaps we can put together a more rational solar system view, and solar system governance. If I really spoke with Lucifer - they would probably point out how stupid and gullible we are - and why we are being ruled by secrecy, deception, manipulation, force, violence, etc. Lucifer might be a Devil - but we probably have what we deserve. Hopefully things will change for the better, sometime soon. I think we are too easy AND too harsh on ourselves. We treat ourselves and each other inappropriately. I think we are where we are by both choice and circumstance. I think we have been lied to and manipulated - but that we have allowed ourselves to be led around by the hooks in our noses. The past may have passed - but we need to study the past endlessly - or we will keep making the same stupid mistakes over and over again. It matters what we think AND what others think. Our thinking affects others. People suffer the consequences of our actions all the time. We are all interrelated - whether we like it, or not. I keep thinking that the editorial bias of this thread will be implemented - and then that the crushing weight of responsibility will be too much to bear - and that the universe will laugh in our faces when we REALLY $crew things up - and start begging for divine intervention. I sometimes think that no matter what we do - things will turn out badly. I guess I see nothing but trouble in our immediate future. But we should still do the right thing - no matter what. We should stand for the right - though the heavens fall - and they probably will fall - causing Atlas to drop the ball - and shrug. What would Ayn Rand say?

    Here is a short video of a member of Opus Dei. While not a Jesuit, this beautiful person exemplifies that stereotypes and Hollywood portrayals don't always reflect reality. This is probably true for both the Jesuits and Opus Dei. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CuTVpPCApE&feature=related What if Roman Catholicism were considered to be an art-form, rather than a theocratic religion? Perhaps that's what I've been trying to get at with my references to Roman Catholic architecture, art, music, robes, pomp and circumstance, reverence and awe. Perhaps the people of the world should be lifted up with all of the above - but not spoon-fed and dictated-to. Again - this is tricky territory - and I don't know the whole story regarding what's really going on in this solar system. I don't hate the Jesuits and the Roman Catholic Church - but I am very wary of historical and contemporary Roman Catholicism. But I think that everyone should study Rome - and all of the roads leading to Rome - and out of Rome. If one fails to do this - one fails to grasp a key part of the puzzle - regarding life, the universe, and everything. What if some of my speculations about a hypothetical 'Queen of Heaven' are correct? What if she rules a 'Secret Government' which rules all of us? What if there has been corruption, abuses, and atrocities? What if all of this has been absolutely necessary? What if idealism and high-minded ethics are a recipe for disaster? What if the truth is overrated? What if we really cannot rule ourselves? This whole subject is scaring the hell out of me. I'd like to see a non-corrupt and transparent solar system government - but what if a lot of the secret stuff needs to be retained? Can we have our cake - and eat it too? Could there be such a thing as an 'Open Secret Government'? I understand the need for people to work behind the scenes in ways which might not be understood by the general public. I also understand that the general public is not being educated to be responsible. I guess I'd like to see everything change - without anything changing. Continuity should be a top priority as we transition into a Brave New Solar System. The universe is filled with contradictions and absurdities - and I don't expect this to change anytime soon. It's probably good to probe and ask questions - but it's probably a bad thing to push too hard, and ask too many questions. I continue to wish to be an observer of sorts - with access - but no authority. You know - sort of a Palmer Joss ('Contact') type of person - who likes to watch. What would Raven say? Are there people who presently travel the solar system in antigravity craft - travel from underground base to underground base in magneto-leviton trains - and sit in on top meetings (including the most secret and sensitive ones)? Obviously - such a person, or persons, would not be allowed to go and blurt everything out to the press. There is obviously a time and a place for everything. But how do we properly cut down on the corruption and absurdities which have plagued humanity for thousands of years? I'm an idealist - but I'm also a realist. Can you imagine being a lifelong student of Roman Catholic art, architecture, and music - without necessarily being Roman Catholic? Just think about this for a while. I have huge problems with Roman Catholic history and theology - but I adore the art, architecture, and music. I have suggested the possibility of thinking of Roman Catholicism as an art-form, rather than as a theocratic religion. Might this be it's proper role in modernity? Please don't fail to study the Roman Catholic phenomenon as you study about aliens, ufo's, dimensions, esoteric this and that, life, the universe, and everything. I tend to think that the Jesuits and the Alphabet Agents Worldwide are sort of in the same category. Again - I don't love them or hate them. I admire them - and I fear them - but I think they might be working for the wrong boss. If they were all only doing good from the shadows - this would be a good thing. But I get the picture that they get involved in some really dark activities, which are not in the best interest of the human race. If this is true - I hope things are changing for the better. I tend to think that they are. We will probably always need smart, brave, educated, innovative, disciplined people - working behind the scenes. I just want them to take the high-road instead of the low-road. That infiltration and subversion poison-cup bs is so passe and old-school.

    The further down the snake-hole I go - the more I can understand why the PTB keep the sheep in a little dreamworld. But a very rude awakening is in the process of occurring. I'm in favor of a proper disclosure - but obviously, the whole thing will be a big mess. Perhaps in a hundred years, things will start to calm down and make sense. I'm not expecting things to dramatically improve, anytime soon - even if people really start to do the right thing. The madness has too much momentum. What if all of us are ET's - spiritually and soul-wise? What if all of our souls are basically the same - whether we be humans, hybrids, reptilians, greys - or whatever humanoid beings there might be - throughout the universe? What if all of us are hybrids - with various percentage differentials of human/reptile or human/whatever? What if 'star-wars' are really 'soul-wars' - using various types of hybrid super-soldiers and advanced technology? What if we are the Orion-Group which Alex Collier speaks of? What if the 600,000 year human vs reptilian war was really an ideological battle - utilizing various types of hybrids and advanced technology? Once again - why can't this solar system become a Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Solar System aka The United States of the Solar System - based upon Responsibility and the U.S. Constitution - with 10,000 highly competent and non corrupt representatives from throughout the solar system - with complete openness and transparency? Some of the biggest questions for me are 1. What is the true origin, nature, and destiny of the soul? 2. What was the Original Sin? 3. What is the solution to the Sin Problem? 4. Whatever Happened to Sin? 5. What would Karl Menninger say? Once again - I really don't know what's really going on in this world, this solar system, this galaxy, or this universe. If I did - my questions and conclusions might be completely different. I can't see properly. I can't think properly. I'm miserable, sick, and tired - and I sense that the problems are worse than even I can imagine - and that proper solutions will not be implemented anytime soon. But why be so negative?

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    Post  Jenetta Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:59 pm

    Oxy who were all those men in that pic post 257? Please be more easy on yourself...reading some 100 day challenge posts may help.
    I was thinking today about a few "evil" souls in the world (e.g.Prince Philip, Henry Kissinger) and finding it awfully difficult to be in a forgiving mood if and when they take the big plunge (Death) thinking only or wondering if they'd only get a "slap on the wrist" on their Journey towards their own Hell. Will the Creator have anything to do with such Souls or does the Creator wash the hands of such an ugly mess.
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    Post  Carol Sun Jan 16, 2011 11:17 pm

    Hi OXY. I've had you on my mind these past few days and was dreaming last night and thinking of you. In the dream I was traveling through a worm hole having a great time.. I reached a place where I saw a fence blocking my way and remembered who I was (sans physical form) and just passed right through it as it was nothing other then a construct, an illusion of something that in essence was nothing unless I chose to make it something by pretending it was real and looking for a way to climb over, walk around, find a gate, etc. Constructs are all illusion unless we choose to give meaning to them. So as I was passing through the fence like a ghost I was laughing enjoying knowing who I really was, a spiritual being with a multidimensional body as are you OXY.

    Do you think these two resemble each other?

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    Post  orthodoxymoron Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:12 pm

    Jenetta wrote:Oxy who were all those men in that pic post 257? Please be more easy on yourself...reading some 100 day challenge posts may help.
    I was thinking today about a few "evil" souls in the world (e.g.Prince Philip, Henry Kissinger) and finding it awfully difficult to be in a forgiving mood if and when they take the big plunge (Death) thinking only or wondering if they'd only get a "slap on the wrist" on their Journey towards their own Hell. Will the Creator have anything to do with such Souls or does the Creator wash the hands of such an ugly mess.
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    Thank-you Jenetta. I don't know who those men are - other than that I got them from Googling 'Oxford and Cambridge Lecture Halls'. They were representative of the points I was trying to make. I keep thinking that one has to become highly spiritually and ethically compromised to get the plumb jobs in this world. Perfectly possessed, soul scalped, chip implanted, programmed, and dark rituals all come to mind. I don't have first-hand knowledge regarding this - but this is still what I think. The Creator God of the Universe seems to be strangely absent from this Solar System - even though I see them revealed in nature, the Teachings of Jesus, and in the faces of those who I meet every day. I'm not sure exactly how justice will be achieved - but I am certain that it will be achieved. I think most of us have the potential to be quite evil - if we were placed in certain contexts and circumstances. If we have all been reincarnating for thousands of years - perhaps most of us have been involved in highly unethical and/or violent activities. I keep saying that Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely. What would Lord Acton say? Are there exceptions to this rule - such as the Creator God of the Universe? What would the Archangels say?


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    Post  orthodoxymoron Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:29 pm

    Thank-you for your attention and thoughts, Carol. We do create a lot of our own problems - many of them imaginary. I model a lot of problems in my own mind - because I don't have access to a Cray supercomputer. So, my mind is bogged-down, and running very slowly. The Pope is a strange looking individual, at times - and does resemble Emperor Palpatine. The light at the end of the wormhole might be a closed iris!! Ouch!!! Robert Morningsky says to NOT go toward the light when we die. What is the purpose of a physical body, if we are interdimensionals or multidimensionals? I tend to think that physicality is essential, rather than being a hindrance.


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    Post  orthodoxymoron Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:43 pm

    Who are the Archangels presently? What have they been doing throughout history? Are they warriors? I thought Michael was associated with Jesus - but most of the Michael images contain swords. But did Jesus say that he had not come to bring peace - but a sword? Are we dealing with battling archangels? Is there a peaceful archangel in the house? I am highly conflicted! Are the archangels presently inhabiting physical bodies? If so, what kind of bodies? How would one recognize an archangel if they saw one? Can an archangel cease to exist? Are one or more archangels facing demotion and/or annihilation presently? Can a fallen archangel be properly reformed and restored? What does 'fallen' really mean? What does 'regressive' really mean? Where art thou, Lucifer?
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    Post  Carol Mon Jan 17, 2011 1:42 pm

    beautiul pictures Oxy. When Raven comes back I let you two go at it and stay out of it. However, porn pics will be deleted. There was feedback from the members who thought you needed some protecting. Given how you keep calling Lucifer into play it seems you have more to work on. Only what you may have overlooked is that Lucifer is here and has changed his path. All that is left are those who are still committed to the path of endarkenment.


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    Post  orthodoxymoron Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:03 pm

    Carol wrote:beautiul pictures Oxy. When Raven comes back I let you two go at it and stay out of it. However, porn pics will be deleted. There was feedback from the members who thought you needed some protecting. Given how you keep calling Lucifer into play it seems you have more to work on. Only what you may have overlooked is that Lucifer is here and has changed his path. All that is left are those who are still committed to the path of endarkenment.

    I really don't wish to fight with Raven (but I will if I have to). I am just trying to understand a lot of different subjects. I'm less helpless online than I am in real-life. I keep referring to Lucifer and the Archangels (sounds like a rock band!) because I think they might be central to this ancient drama. If we don't get that part right - we get the whole thing wrong. I am not a Luciferian or a Satanist. I'm a Backslidden Christian. If I spoke with Lucifer in person - I would give them the same courtesy which Christ exhibited during his temptation in the wilderness. I do have more to work on. A lot more. Some on this forum have said that Lucifer no longer exists. I have doubted this. I have heard that Lucifer is facing annihilation. I prefer incarceration, reeducation, reformation, restitution, and restoration for him/her - if this is possible. But once again - I don't know the whole story. I like to think that Lucifer has changed his/her path. I have seen some evidence of this - so regarding the subject of Lucifer - I am not necessarily a completely ignorant fool (but I am on most other topics). It's probably hard for any being(s) to change directions - which is why I support evolutionary, rather than revolutionary, change for the better. Check this out. http://hubpages.com/hub/Christian-ArchAngels

    Definition Of An Archangel
    Before I get started, I must give the definition of the word "Archangel". An Archangel is a high ranking Angel. They are considered to be the "leader" of the Angels. Seven Archangels appeared before God in The Book Of Revelations. Only four were named in the Bible. Some of the information below will not be only from Christian faith, it will come from others that believe in the almighty as well. They are the devine messengers between humans and God.

    ArchAngel Michael
    Michael is probably the most well known Archangel of all the others. He is said to be God's champion and is usually pictured with an unsheathed sword. It is foretold that when the world is in jeopardy again, Michael will return. In the bible, it is said that Michael was the Archangel that told the Virgin Mary of her approaching death. According to Jewish scriptures, Michael is the closest to the Lord, for his name means "like unto God". As the eldest Archangel, he is given captaincy over all of God's natural phenomena, such as the rain, wind, fire, snow, thunder, lightning, and hail. He is said to be the battler and defender of heaven, and the Patron Saint of policemen. It says in The Book Of Revelations that Michael will lead the Angels against the dragon in the final battle. There are actually 8 main Archangels.Lucifer was also an Archangel, but he was cast out of Heaven, leaving seven main Archangels.

    Archangel Uriel
    The name Uriel has four meanings, "Fire of God, Flame of God, Light of God, or Sun of God."Some accounts say that Uriel is the head of the third order(or company)of Angels. Others identify Uriel as one of the seven Archangels before the Throne.

    Archangel Raphael
    This Archangels name means "God has overcome." He is said to be the Angel that supervises healing. Raphael is one of four Archangels mentioned in the entire Bible. Raphael first appears disguised in human form as the traveling companion of Tobias, calling himself "Azarias the son of the great Ananias."The Archangels protective influence is shown in many ways, including the binding of the Demon in the desert of upper Egypt.

    Archangel Remiel
    Remeil, meaning "Thunder of God", is a Grogori or watcher. He is often confused with Azazel, because he is also called Rameel(sounding like Remiel, Ramiel).There are some stories that claim Remiel is one of the seven Archangels in the Book of Revelations, while others say that Remiel is a fallen Angel, because he refused to take custody of Hell. He is also said to be the Angel of guidance.

    Archangel Lucifer
    There is alot of information about Lucifer, whether it is from the Bible, or from other religions. Lucifer was an Archangel long ago. Lucifer, meaning, in Latin, as "Light bringer, Bearer of Light." Lucifer is now known to the world as Satan, or the Devil. Satan, meaning "Adversary."Lucifer is said to have been cast out of Heaven because of "sinful pride", thinking that he was equal to God and rebelling against him. Supposedly the most evil thing that Satan does to us is tempt us into thinking that we are God. It is said that Lucifer is the first Angel to have sinned. Some say that Lucifer is not the opposite of God, but the opposite of Michael, the head Archangel. It is said that Lucifer was created by God on the 6 day of creation. The original theory is that Lucifer is the Archangel that rebelled against God and lead the revolt against him. Lucifer was jealous of the love that God felt against Adam. Some scholars actually believe that Hell is located in Heaven. It is believed that Lucifer aligned himself with one third of the Angels in an attempt to overthrow God and the faithful Angels, taking over the Kingdom. Lucifer and his Angels engaged in battle with Archangel Michael and his Angels and were defeated, casted down to earth.

    Archangel Gabriel
    The Archangel Gabriel comes from the Hebrew meaning"Man of God."Gabriel and Michael are the Archangels that figure most prominently in the Bible. He is mentioned by name in two visions of the Prophet Daniel. Here he explains the future of Israel to Daniel.

    Archangel Raguel
    Raguel name is said to mean "Friend of God."Some say that his role is to oversee all of the other Archangels and Angels to ensure they are working in harmony and order according to the Divine will. He is also considered "The Relationship Angel."

    Archangel Zerachiel
    Zerachiel is one of the main Archangels that leads souls to judgement. An Angel of healing. It is also said that he is the presiding Angel of the Sun, Prince of ministering Angels who watch over Mortals, and the Angels of children, particularly children of parents who have sinned. He is said to have dominion over Earth.

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    Post  investigator Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:26 pm

    Did Raevn say they were coming back? Did she change her avatar too? I was a little disappointed to see that person go, because I always thought the people here were mature enough to handle any opinion, even if they disagree, even if the person believes in Satanism or Lucifereanism, etc. My reasoning is people that are preaching love and light and oneness, have the perfect opportunity to practice it in real life online, without having to resort to censorship. My ideal vision for the whole New Age Movement, is for it to move in a direction, where people say whatever they want, and even if they don't agree, they just don't say anything negative or hurtful in return, a movement where everything is tolerated, everyone minds their own business, resulting in true authenticity, instead of a PA2 hive feeling. I suppose I find it appalling, and amusing simultaneously, when lightworkers go berserk online. I'm disappointed at them for not practicing what they preach, but not surprised at the same time. heh
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    Post  orthodoxymoron Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:32 pm

    I agree, investigator. I actually enjoyed getting cussed-out by Raven! Raven got banned for 100 days. I hope she comes back. I didn't even mind the porno pictures! But this is a site which is open to the general public - so there does have to be some moderation and limits. I'm trying to be good - without being too good. A perfect being who is retentive to the nth degree is not a perfect being. I am continually making politically incorrect comments and jokes. I frequently use thinly disguised bad words. Is this a sin? Is it possible that those who are highly critical of this approach might be the real hypocrites and sinners? I do tend to like to hide behind my puritanical skit - but I like to wear this skirt quite high...
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    Post  orthodoxymoron Tue Jan 18, 2011 5:05 am

    Here is a composite of my posts from a thread which got out of control. http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t1347-three-interesting-ladies

    This thread is not an endorsement. It is a look at points of view which don't get covered very often on this, or any other, website. I periodically listen to these ladies - but I am on a very different path. I think we need to look at everything from all angles - even those which scare us, or make us angry. Now - I introduce to you - Dana, Sherry, and TREEE!

    Dana: 1. http://www.canadastreetnews.com/index.html 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5nYJ7ZhS6U

    Sherry: http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/ Look for a Daniel Ott - Sherry Shriner - Greg Rinchich interview (half-way down the page). Warning: BIZARRE to the nth degree.

    TREEE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgUrYWlSqT4&NR=1

    I'm not recommending following these people - but listening to them might provide one with insights which might be otherwise missed. This whole fringe world is bizarre to begin with - but I suspect that some of it is real.

    Thank-you Raven. I haven't watched the videos yet - but I keep thinking about that first abraxasinas post on the Thuban Q&A - with the demonic fantasy. Sexuality, Genetics, Hybridization, Experimentation, Technology, Warfare, Rebellion, Self-Exaltation, Original Sin, Master Race, God, Goddess, Satan, Deception, etc and et al - seem to be interrelated. I am much more interested in why things are so screwed-up than I am with various positions. The position I take in my position paper titled 'Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Solar System' is that NO ONE SHOULD BE ON TOP!!! Of course - the Queen of Heaven might be able to change my mind....

    Thank-you Raven. I'm about half-way through the videos. BTW - Jack is supposedly channelling Enki - is that correct? I once suggested to a very conservative theologian, that sexuality and spirituality were intimately related. I received hacking laughter as a response. I also think that making love and making music are intimately related. I learned most everything I know about sex - from Dr. Zdrock. 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdmHZZe9bZI 2. http://www.google.com/images?rlz=1T4GGIR_enUS216US217&q=dr+zdrok&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=y2vtTN_uNpC2sAPjmfS4Dw&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CCoQsAQwAA

    But, to be perfectly honest, I have learned one or two things from former porn-star turned preacher (decidedly Pauline theology) Pastor Melissa Scott. 1. http://www.pastormelissascott.com/index.shtml 2. http://www.google.com/images?rlz=1T4GGIR_enUS216US217&q=pastor+melissa+scott&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=F23tTP_TDoGCsQPnp-mXBw&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=2&ved=0CCwQsAQwAQ

    I'd love to chat - but I gotta go do something!

    Thank-you Raven. That was good! I'm flattered! But I am in deep thought - wondering why priests and popes have to practice celebacy? Could it be that they are married to Mary? Might the Queen of Heaven proclaim, 'Thou shalt have no other gods or goddesses before ME!'???

    Thank-you everyone! Pastor Melissa Scott is actually not a bad preacher - but she seems really restrained and repressed in that role. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DnnFzX1TjY I'm also not a fan of Pauline theology. I am a Red Letter Christian / New Age Agnostic! Melissa was married to Dr. Gene Scott - who was a real piece of work - money-hungry - dirty old man! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT9kol3syaA&feature=related This thread is going downhill fast. I really didn't intend for it to go in this direction. You know - my taking conservative religion seriously - combined with the whole Madison Avenue and Hollywood BS - BS male and female stereotypes and roles - plus the fear of STD's - really ruined the whole subject of sexuality for me. In many ways - I am repulsed by the topic. I think about it - to be sure - but it's more of an abstraction of spirituality, conflict, and reflection - which doesn't gel with anything in the popular culture. I live a very dull and boring life. The son of a prominent theologian (who I won't name - but I attended a lot of his lectures) was a journalist who covered the porn-scene in Hollywood - but got out of it quite a while ago. He was actually on '60 Minutes'. He said that most people who try to go into the porn business are so humiliated and repulsed by it that they quit pretty quickly. He converted from Christianity to Judaism - but I think he ran afoul of the Jewish authorities! He's quite a rebel and a genius. He's quite entertaining - but his story seems sad - and he's been an embarrassment to his parents. Oh well. Such is life. I'm considering starting a ministry to convert the hookers and porn-stars of the world to Christianity. I'm also considering starting Hookers for Jesus - and publishing Repent House Magazine. What happens when you put the batteries in backwards in the Energizer Bunny? Think about it.

    There was a young woman named Wyld
    Who kept herself quite undefiled
    By thinking of Jesus and social diseases
    And the fear of having a child

    Now - back to the priesthood and celebacy. Have you ever wondered why they call a theological school a semin-ary?? I once heard of a priest who boasted that he had lots of wives!! (true story) Skip to 05:00 for relevance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0wzrq-tS4I&feature=related Have you ever heard of the lime-pits? I won't elaborate on that one. But really - could priests and popes be - in a sense - married to Mary? Could Jesus have been married to Mary? How much does the Whore of Babylon charge? Fifty cities! Why is she called the Whore of Babylon? Because she babbles on and on and on and on and....

    The bottom-line is that if this world focuses on RESPONSIBILITY - everything will fall into place - including sexuality. Think about it.

    Now - what about the three ladies this thread is based upon? Has anyone looked at any of their websites, videos, internet shows, etc? In a sense - I wish I didn't have to wade through all of this stuff. I really just want to focus on the Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Solar System concept - and not spend a lot of time on the hard to prove, and creepy material. I really don't think it facilitates constructive mental health. I'm not sure I want to wake people up to all of the fringe confusion and BS. I'd like to keep the evolution of society and consciousness as simple and positive as possible. AV1 and MOA have been experiments for me. I don't talk about this stuff once I log off the computer - with a couple of exceptions. I deal with Roman Catholics all the time - and I never confront them about any of the dirt I sometimes deal with on the internet. The same goes for people who are into the goddess thing or pagan thing or whatever. I truly am into positive reinforcement - but websites such as this are probably appropriate forums to deal with the dirt - to try to formulate positive solutions and responses.

    Don't pick on the priest! Perhaps the nun has a bad habit...

    What do you call a sleep-walking nun? A Roam'n Catholic.

    What if the pope has been mixed-up with some really dark activities - but what if the pope is doing the best he can? I worry about who I think might be giving the pope orders via the black pope. Just speculation - but I still worry. I don't think that the Vatican or Bilderberg run the world. I think they implement that which has been ordered. ET Phone Rome? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyKy8_sF4xY More speculation. Now - can we discuss Dana, Sherry, and TREEE? Dana has a lot to say about the RC Church. The whole world needs to be reformed - and not just the church. They just happen to be the biggest game in town - with quite the dark track record.

    I am genuinely puritanical - and I am genuinely reprobate - and I hide behind my screen-name - orthodoxymoron. I frankly get tired of looking at that which I cannot have - and my puritanical ethics and guilt complex prevent me from taking advantage of opportunities which present themselves. I really am $crewed-up. Once again - I don't play numbers-games. The Pope's VICARIUS FILII DEI supposedly equals 666 when you total the Roman Numerals. Many other prominent names generate the feared 666. Frankly my dear - I don't give a damn. Hell - with all of my blasphemous posts and delusions of grandeur - I could be the damn antichrist! I continue to be interested in a Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Solar System aka The United States of the Solar System - based upon Responsibility and the U.S. Constitution. I am trying to spend more time reading the Four Gospels, the Federalist Papers, and the Anti-Federalist Papers - while listening to Latin Masses and Classical Sacred Music. But wine, women, and song - has brought down many a good man - so I'm not falling for it. But if I were presented with sex, drugs, and rock 'n roll - I might go for that! What would Hathor say? Could the Living Christ (The responsible, spiritual, and modern application of the Teachings of Jesus) be The Christ? Could the Queen of Heaven (presiding over the New World Order - which is really the Old World Disorder Demonic Theocracy) be The Antichrist? Don't get me wrong - there's much about the old world and centralized administration which I admire - and I love the artistic aspects of the old world - but the historical corruption, misery, and carnage - is beyond comprehension. I wish to keep the best, and eliminate the worst - of all worlds. BTW - I'm not speaking of purges and exterminations. I simply wish to see a perfected humanity living in a perfected solar system - but only noble means will achieve noble ends. Now - back to the dirty pictures. One more thing, Raven - sometimes I wonder if you might be the real abraxasinas - and I wonder if Tony is just a front-man. Have you ever met TREEE - or might you be TREEE? Sorry for being so forward - but those pictures sort of loosened me up!

    Raven! Now you're getting nasty! You're so sexy when you're nasty! Does it sometimes take one to know one? Is this a case of the pot calling the kettle 'black'? Leo Zagami said that he was Christ (and that Amen Ra was his father) - so if I am opposed to Leo (especially in regard to his 'Prison - 2012 - Armageddon rant' - then I take that as a compliment. Once again - I wish for everyone to be happy - and that means everyone - including you, Raven. Namaste.

    No hard feelings, Raven. No, actually, I take that back. Think long and hard about that one. Speaking of back - I looked-up 'Djed' http://www.egyptartsite.com/symlst.html Speaking of Egypt - you remind me of Hathor. http://www.hulu.com/watch/62967/stargate-sg-1-hathor Double your pleasure by using both hands, Raven - but make sure that you have lots of Vaseline stockpiled in preparation for the coming earthchanges. These drawings were smuggled out of the Dulce Deep Underground Military Base by Thomas Costello. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOIaYGz-vY4&feature=related Incidentally - my primitive Red Letter Christology includes Egyptology. I really think this thing will work out well for everyone, including you, Raven. That text you quoted from the Gospels is interesting and troubling - and highlights my belief that the Bible is a mixed-bag and a big puzzle - which needs to be completely understood and solved. Still - I don't do the numerology and symbology thing very well - so I have left that to others - such as Dr. Desmond Ford, Dr. Erwin R. Gane, Dr. Tonyblue, Dr. Matrix, et al. At some point, I would love to speak with you, without the mind-games and nastiness. I realize that you are much more knowledgeable and experienced than I am - but I like ladies who are experienced, and who know what they're doing...

    Thank-you Raven. Was that Alec Baldwin's tail - or was it something else? The self-flaggelation is sad - but spiritual discipline is a good thing - such as extensive theological research, debate, and helping others. Namaste.

    Don't be frightened. I mean no harm. Thank-you Raven and SuiGeneris. Too bad that things got out of control. I wasn't offended - but this is a public forum. Anyway - I'm still interested in the Queen of Heaven concept - from Lilith to Mary. I don't know how much of this stuff is true - and I am using my imagination a lot - but I think that some of it is true - and that there is a good and a bad side to all of this. The dragon and serpent parts have me worried. What kind of car does Anna drive? A VW!! It all starts up again on ABC on January 4. My 'V' DVD's will keep me going until then. Namaste. Sweet Dreams. I am of peace. Always.

    Thank-you SuiGeneris. Your post was quite entertaining! But I don't do symbolic and numerological apocalyptic literature. Could we discuss the Sermon on the Mount and the Great Commission? Or, could we at least discuss the three interesting ladies in the first post of this thread? I'm usually quite easily sidetracked - and I often chase after red-herrings - but I have been more focused lately. We the People of Earth seem to be running out of time to get it right.

    I'd like to have a clear picture of the aspirations and dreams of the hypothetical Queen of Heaven - going back thousands, or even millions, of years. I would like to see this in all of its glory. Then, I would like to understand the negative aspects in all of this. What went wrong? Or, did anything go wrong? Is everything going according to the ancient plan? Can you imagine being in ancient Egypt, at the height of its majestic splendor, and standing (or kneeling?) before the Queen of Heaven? Is there a good side to this sort of thing? Is there a bad side? Should all of the ancient structures, throughout the world, be completely restored? Should we bask in the art, architecture, music, and culture of antiquity - while avoiding the harsh and cruel aspects? I welcome dignity and splendor - but it needs to be available to all people - not just to the elites. Should the royal-model and the servant-model be combined? You know - Humble Dignity. See - I really wish for this solar system to be highly refined - with elegance and excellence everywhere - but I do not wish for arrogance and cruelty to be part of this. Do you see my point?

    Perhaps Lucifer is the Hermaphrodite/Hybrid/Reptile/Human/Nephilim/Interdimensional/Physical/God/Goddess of This World (and the Solar System?). Is Lucifer both Amen Ra and Hathor? Did Lucifer create all of the mythologies, theologies, gods, and goddesses - including Jesus and Mary? Did Lucifer create the Dracs and Greys? Is there really only one faction of Annunaki - under the command of Lucifer? Is Nibiru ruled by Lucifer? Is Lucifer the Ashtar Commander? Are we all Fallen Angels - who followed Lucifer to Earth? Have we been left to our own devices by the rest of the universe? Is Lucifer the script-writer, director, and actor/actress of "The God-Father-Mother"? Are NASA's Nazis, Masons, and Magicians - all Luciferian? Does Lucifer rule the United Nations, the United States, the City of London, and the Vatican? Were they all infiltrated from day-one? Are the three stars (upside-down or rightside-up) in the Republican logo (and Washington DC) representative of the three City-States? What would you say to Lucifer if you met him/her? I might tell you a story someday.

    One more time:

    1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6eTbhHE0jM

    2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z7O7UZxipM

    3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3A6_blpqpU

    4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyKy8_sF4xY

    5. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LehRaXiKuec

    6. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niFvBJxJEtM

    7. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnNjRaBj3zs

    I would/will/have befriend(ed) Lucifer - but I will not give an inch. I wish for peace - but I will not be a sucker for peace at any price. I'm really sort of neutral about the whole thing. I don't love or hate Lucifer. I really wish for Lucifer to completely embrace Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom and The United States of the Solar System. I think this will ultimately be in Lucifer's best interest - and in the best interest of the human race (and any other race) - even though it might not seem like it right now. This thread (and all of my internet posting) probably makes Lucifer absolutely furious - and I don't blame him/her! I'd be livid too! Once again - I realize this is playing with very, very hot fire. I really just wish for things to work out well for all concerned - including Lucifer. But really - I'm continuing to treat this whole thing as though it were just a science fiction novel. I don't know what's true - and what's pure, unmitigated popycock. This is just one big nightmare. I'm so numb - I almost don't care anymore...

    I'm in a mood. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7VQWAILSbY&feature=related
    What if Lucifer wrote the scripts and played the parts of ALL the Gods and Goddesses? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tpl6ncyxLGw
    Think about it...

    Thank-you SuiGeneris! Cool poem! I generally consider the razzmatazz to have mostly been a mind-game or a test of sorts. In fact, most of what I have participated in online just seems like a silly nightmare. I really want to get completely away from all of this. I just want to be a happy and successful human being. So far, I have achieved neither, despite numerous opportunities. I'm liking the idea of focusing on reading books and listening to music, and just skipping the online tussles. What I would really like to know, is who have I REALLY been dealing with online? I may never know - but I suspect that I might be shocked if I knew. I really just want to live in a sane world. But, in a sense, I doubt that I will ever be happy - because of the history of the world - and my part in it - no matter how good things get in the future. I almost don't want to continue. I'm tired of the BS.

    What do you think about this? I lean toward Dana's perspective - but I have learned a lot from Sherri and TREEE.

    1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgv9JAH7HWA&feature=related
    2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7tyRIySzGk&feature=related
    3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZZ1TS_7F60&feature=related
    4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HUopZqHpWA&NR=1
    5. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZCMeDxQHzA&feature=related

    I so don't want to keep dealing with this madness - but I so don't want the madness to continue. It is interesting to compare these three interesting ladies with each other. It's sort of like a cat-fight, in a way - even though they don't usually refer to each other. Once again - I am not a follower of any of these three - but I do like to keep my eye of them...

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    What would it be like to live in an underground base or city, with Reptilians, Greys, Hybrids, Dracs, Jesuits, Alphabet Agents, Nazis, Masons, Magicians, and Delta Force Soldiers? Is this even a good thing to think about? There may be a very strange world down under. Would this necessarily be a bad or evil world? I keep thinking that it would be cool to live in an old decomissioned missile silo. This would sure help one imagine what it would be like to live in the hypothetical, highly-classified environment described above. I suspect that there might be several factions of underground civilizations. It's not really fun to think about this - but I feel compelled to do so. But as I do so - I feel myself sinking lower and lower. I don't recommend this mental exercise in futility - but someone might find comfort in the fact that another individual is trying to think way, way outside of the box. Misery loves company - and the company loves misery. I have to dream about the highly classified realm - because dreaming is as close as I will ever get to actually experiencing any of it. The price of admission is undoubtedly very, very expensive. But I do think that the general public should start considering as many possibilities as possible, in a calm and quiet manner. I have decided to do nothing more, and nothing less, than what I'm doing right now - regardless of where my passive, pseudo-intellectual research and speculation leads me. I'll just keep blurting out my little brainstorms, on this little forum. If this one ever gets shut down, I'll just post on another one. If the whole internet gets shut down - I'll just read books and review what I have saved in my word processor. If an agent comes to take me away - I will go without a fuss. I'll continue to be an internet smart@$$, but I don't ever want to physically fight with anyone. My dreamworld is really a nightmare in many ways. I really and truly keep trying to stop posting. I think about angelic and demonic realms, star wars, nuclear war, chemical and biological warfare, Armageddon, Hybrid v Human race wars, enslavement, extermination, riding on mag-lev trains, 'flying' in UFO's, living on Phobos, facing the Creator God of the Universe, interviewing Amen Ra, meeting the Queen of Heaven, arguing with Jesuits, swearing at Raven, and on and on and on into the night. The thing I want to keep emphasizing is that I feel absolutely no hatred or animosity toward anyone - human or otherwise. I am motivated by curiosity, and by the desire to help clean-up the mess which everyone seems to be in. Hell - if everything goes up in smoke - so do I. I have gone on record, saying that a world human population of four billion (two billion surface dwellers, and two billion sub-surface dwellers) - and four billion humans living throughout the rest of the solar system - would be optimal. What do you think about this? If this were the plan - there would be no need for an extermination event of any kind - would there? Responsible Reproduction is a good thing. Eugenics and Exterminations are bad things. Any questions?
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    Post  orthodoxymoron Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:17 pm

    These pictures are amazing!! http://www.collthings.co.uk/2008/06/cool-and-mysterious-skies.html Why would we want to be 'rescued' - and taken to a 'better place'??? It seems to me that we simply need to take proper care of what we have right here in this solar system. Try meditating on these pictures while listening to this music. http://www.themistsofavalon.net/universal-lounge-f8/saint-ouen-and-saint-sulpice-t1397.htm We seem to run around like retarded chickens with our heads cut off - and we miss the beauty of the earth - and the beautiful music which harmonizes with the majesty of nature. Can you imagine listening to this music while travelling throughout the solar system in an antigravity craft? I try to - but my attention span is pretty limited! I'm fast coming to the conclusion that we miss a lot of the really terrific stuff in life. I've been doing a lot of thrashing around on the internet - but I'm going to try to refine this into a more positive and balanced approach to just about everything. These are REALLY COOL PICTURES! Try looking at them while listening to your favorite music. People speak of meditation, with various techniques and mantras - but what about just going for long walks in nature - and looking at beautiful scenery or starry skies for hours on end? I think we need to gradually reduce the world population to around four billion (with responsible reproduction) - with a lot of underground living and work areas (and with four billion throughout the rest of the solar system) - to recreate a pristine Earth. I also think we need a lot more pure science - and a lot less applied science. The out of control industrialization and technological development (especially weaponry) is truly reprehensible - and constitutes gross malfeasance.
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    Post  orthodoxymoron Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:26 pm

    What is the complete story regarding Lucifer, Pagan Rome, Alexander the Great, Constantine the Great, and Papal Rome? What occurred between the time of Alexander the Great and Constantine the Great? 250-350 A.D. is a pivotal time period - but how important is it, really? What really transpired during this time? Why am I even asking these questions? How does this all tie together? Does it tie together at all? Then - what transpired over the next 500 years? Did anything of special significance occur at the end of this 500 year period? I'm obviously on yet another fishing expedition. Is something fishy going on? I just sort of randomly threw this together - and I'm not sure why.

    1. Lucifer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucifer

    2. Pagan Rome: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_ancient_Rome

    3. Alexander the Great: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_the_Great

    4. Constantine the Great: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantine_I

    5. Papal Rome: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope

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    Post  orthodoxymoron Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:39 pm

    December 9 Wall Street Journal - 16 Tycoons Agree to Give Away Fortunes http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703493504576007982500939482.html?mod=WSJ_hp_mostpop_read

    I think this is very, very cool. I hope this spreads. This is the way things are supposed to work. But I feel very guilty and small right now. I don't think I'm as happy and appreciative as I should be. I'm still an insignificant nobody - while the rich and famous are at the center of things - like they always are. It's probably too late for me to become rich and famous - but this internet warrior bit - and trying to be innovative and profound - really seems to be a lost cause. It seems that if you are rich and famous - people hang on your every word - whether you are innovative and profound, or not. Money talks and BS walks - right? Call it sour-grapes or whatever, but I sometimes wonder how a lot of wealth is really generated. I'm a paranoid and suspicious type of person - and I keep thinking about human/et deal-making and such - in connection with politics, religion, technology, and business. But still - I view this latest development as extremely positive. I wish I could make lots of money - and give away 90% of it - and still keep the Ferrari and the beach-house! Go Bill Gates and Warren Buffett!

    The following is a concept derived from the principles and concepts contained in the Teachings of Jesus, but not stated directly. It is simply something I have found to be helpful regarding the ethical pursuit and use of money. I call it the 50-50 rule, derived from 'love your neighbor as yourself' and 'do unto others as you would have others do unto you.' Basically, one makes as much money as possible in the most ethical way possible, and then sets aside 50 percent of the gain for taxes and charity. Then, with the remaining 50 percent, they live a comfortable, though not ostentatious life style, and use a significant portion of this 50 percent to make even more money! Then, this additional profit again becomes subject to the same rule. Finally, when one dies, the estate is divided, with 50 percent going to taxes and charity, and 50 percent to relatives, etc. We should avoid rich versus poor class-warfare, jealousy and hatred, or feelings of superiority! We all have a part to play in this vast mosaic of life. The poor should not neglect to learn how the rich make money, and the rich should not neglect the poor…regardless of the reasons for their poverty! It's my way of saying that one can have their cake and eat it too! Perhaps it is a rationalization…but I don't think so! I believe that God is reasonable, and that sincere attempts to do the right thing are received with joy in Heaven!

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