Steve is the next "Richard" at Project Camelot...

Silent Witness wrote:can anyone explain why this forum was showing as no longer existed for a number of hours?

Silent Witness wrote:All mysterious goings on, can anyone explain why this forum was showing as no longer existed for a number of hours? As for Camelot and Steve, and possibly Lita et al walking too, whats that all about? Has the World gone a bit cuckoo since the terrible events in Japan?

Silent Witness wrote:All mysterious goings on, can anyone explain why this forum was showing as no longer existed for a number of hours? As for Camelot and Steve, and possibly Lita et al walking too, whats that all about? Has the World gone a bit cuckoo since the terrible events in Japan?

mudra wrote:

TRANCOSO wrote:Mod Steve is now an EX-Mod.
He has resigned...

What about the 7 bans Sui is mentioning ?
Have they been lifted ?

Love Always
mudra

SuiGeneris wrote:


Sui

I can tell you this much, Steve is taking some time out for health reasons. I hope he will come back but he needs to focus on himself at the moment and the forum was taking up a lot of his time and energy.

The Thuban thread does seem to have brought it to a head a little bit sooner but it might have happened anyway.

Project Camelot is a target for agencies that want people to live in fear and disinformation so expect it to be a little bit rough at the moment seeing as one infiltration has just been shut out by Steve. They will try other methods.

SuiGeneris wrote:

Silent Witness wrote:All mysterious goings on, can anyone explain why this forum was showing as no longer existed for a number of hours? As for Camelot and Steve, and possibly Lita et al walking too, whats that all about? Has the World gone a bit cuckoo since the terrible events in Japan?

Hey Spirit...have you always been a part of the Mod team in Camelot or is it recent?

and yes Lita has officially quit also.

FYI Steve wasn't only a mod... he was Admin too

Spoke with Kerry before but apparently she wasn't even sure of the reason Steve quit...

Carol wrote:

Silent Witness wrote:All mysterious goings on, can anyone explain why this forum was showing as no longer existed for a number of hours? As for Camelot and Steve, and possibly Lita et al walking too, whats that all about? Has the World gone a bit cuckoo since the terrible events in Japan?

Just a glitch in the back room Barry. Merc hit the wrong button when he was renewing our domain name.

Yes, the world is a bit more cuckoo since Japan and is going to go into a tailspin for the next 6 days. Lybia is going to be attacked by Britian, France and the US. Yellowstone may well erupt this weekend, California will likely have a major quake along with more from Japan. Things are intense right now with the SuperMoon and we are entering into the danger period this weekend.

investigator wrote:In the mean time friends please allow me to promote the brilliant spiritual philosophy of Mike Quinsey, and Kiesha Crowley.

Conditional love and light.

TRANCOSO wrote:Contact: New energies challenge the old set-up
Wednesday, 16 March 2011

I am SaLuSa from Sirius, and watch the ever-changing levels of mass consciousness on your world.

As problems upon Earth proceed to become more threatening, bear in mind that whereas the dark Ones can use force to achieve their objectives, the Light works in a more subtle way. Because it is co-ordinated across the world when it does cause action to take place, it is usually most powerful and cannot be stopped by any conventional methods.

In fact it is the most powerful force in the Universe. Therefore regardless of the opposition against it, it will achieve its purpose. Presently it is increasing in its power levels, and will continue to do so all of the way to Ascension. Try not to be overwhelmed by the disasters that are happening, and know that there will be a positive outcome that will lift you up to a higher level. Much of what has happened was foreseen, but as it relates to karma – sometimes on a group level, it must be allowed to work through. From our point of view all will proceed as planned, and the Universe will finally ascend.

A lot can happen in a short time, and as you progress through this year events are going to become quite hectic. The people are beginning to take charge of their own future, and will not stand for the old ways to be reinstated. They realize that what were supposed to be democratic governments in many countries around the world, were more totalitarian and not answerable to them. In fact in many of them voting was a sham, and dictatorships existed that served themselves by denying the people their entitlement. In waking up to what has been taking place, they have stopped the dark Ones in their tracks and opened opportunities for a regime change. Not only that, when they take place they will be changes complete with a new policy, that will address the wrongs of many hundreds of years. These new energies for change will strengthen the resolve of those dear souls who have stepped forward to challenge the old set-up. Their endeavors are supported by us, and we guide them so as to achieve the victory that will fully open the path to Ascension.

As ever time continues to speed up, and that is a sure sign that you are well on the way to the great upliftment of 2012. Life goes on for every soul regardless of what they believe will actually happen come once that date is reached. In part you create your own future, but the fact remains that the final act will be Ascension. There is no necessity for great catastrophes or disasters, or masses of people dying as a result of them simply to reach that point in time. The only link between the two is the need to cleanse the Earth so that she is ready to ascend with you. So the remaining months will be filled with all manner of different happenings, which will gradually become more acceptable and beneficial to everyone. By then we will certainly have been officially accepted as visitors to your planet. In actuality we already have your acceptance, and the numbers of people turning to us are increasing each day.

The course is set for your release from the Illuminati, and they strike out in their last desperate attempts to delay or prevent Ascension. Their days are numbered, and little time remains for them to continue in opposition to us. It will be with absolute delight that we finally remove the dark Ones from positions of power, and bring in Beings of Light that have been waiting such as opportunity to replace them. These are our allies that have already done so much to create a structure that aids our plan for your release. Also many, many of you have especially incarnated at this time to be part of the final days upon the old Earth. Each you have something to offer that will be called upon when the time is right. There will be so much activity going on, you may be sure that even at a local community level, you will have plenty to occupy you.

Our appearance on your television channels will enable us to reach out to people to dispel any doubts that they may have about our intentions. We will go to great lengths to explain why we are here, and the plan to take you up to the end time. We serve you through the Galactic Federation, and Ascension is not the end of our presence with you, as we shall become your fellow travelers through the Galaxies if you should so choose. You will be able to visit the home of civilizations that dwell in the higher dimensions, and will be accepted as one of them. To say the least, you will be somewhat different to what you are now as you have yet to rise up to the higher levels of vibration. When you have done so, and work from your higher consciousness you will truly have become Galactic Beings. That is your present goal, and our help will be given to ensure you achieve it. These are all matters that we will need to introduce to you, and clearly it will be much easier when we are openly with you.

We will have a common bond with those of you that do ascend, because you are cognizant with the understanding of the Source, and that it is All That Is. Respect, Love and Gratitude are our offerings to the Creator and we know that many of you share those sentiments. The truth of such matters is also important for you to know, and they will be covered in due course of time. A belief in God will carry you forward, until we can enlighten you although we must say that many inspired teachers are already on Earth. Following religion as such is not our way, as all knowledge can be found within. You have it now, but find it difficult to touch that level of your consciousness. For the time being trust your intuitive powers and follow their promptings.

I am SaLuSa from Sirius, and watch the ever-changing levels of mass consciousness on your world. With each disaster a loving glow arises from Earth, showing how much love and compassion is being felt for those who are the victims of them. It is bringing people together who see the need to take back their power, so as to create a new world that is based upon caring and love for each other. It is truly remarkable how far you have come in such a very short time. It was expected to be so, but until the time arrived there was no certainty as to exactly what you would achieve. However, Ascension is the Creator’s directive, and no one but the Creator can change what has been decreed. Knowing this it must have a positive affect on you, as you need have no concerns or worries about the end time. We of the Galactic Federation are geared up to move anywhere at a minutes notice, and well rehearsed in all aspects of our assistance for you.

Thank you SaLuSa

Mike Quinsey

Source: ET First Contact

EnemyofNWO wrote:DEBUNKING SaLuSa

" As problems upon Earth proceed to become more threatening " .

SaLuSa isn't this evident now ? If you are really interested in this planet with so many "precious people " , ( I am being sarcastic now ) why don't you do something ?
Put your money where your mouth is !


"Because it is co-ordinated across the world when it does cause action to take place, it is usually most powerful and cannot be stopped by any conventional methods. " .
Please explain to us the coordination of disasters taking place , a bit of early knowledge would save a lot of human suffering , don't you think ?


" Try not to be overwhelmed by the disasters that are happening, and know that there will be a positive outcome that will lift you up to a higher level. Much of what has happened was foreseen, but as it relates to karma – sometimes on a group level, it must be allowed to work through. From our point of view all will proceed as planned, and the Universe will finally ascend. "

So you say it was foreseen Ah ! And the perfect cop out for you is the use of the magic word " Karma " . The magic word that tell us that we must discharge our Karma or try not to damage anybody . The tricky thing is that when we are born we have forgotten who we are and what our supposed mission is . If we really have a mission wouldn't be better to remember what this mission is ? They say to us that kids starving in a world of plenty are victims of the human condition and the Karma . So the Karma is game of which a normal person has no clue . A person has no clue of the rules of this game and how it is supposed to be played . Imagine a person goes to the casino and plays a game without knowing the rule and not knowing whether he / she is winning or losing ……… SALuSa ,old boy , you must find another way to explain things without the BS Karma .

"A lot can happen in a short time, and as you progress through this year events are going to become quite hectic " .

Thanks for nothing , I already know this , I am awake and subscribe to a number of trend analysts.

" The people are beginning to take charge of their own future, and will not stand for the old ways to be reinstated. They realize that what were supposed to be democratic governments in many countries around the world, were more totalitarian and not answerable to them. In fact in many of them voting was a sham, and dictatorships existed that served themselves by denying the people their entitlement. In waking up to what has been taking place, they have stopped the dark Ones in their tracks and opened opportunities for a regime change. Not only that, when they take place they will be changes complete with a new policy, that will address the wrongs of many hundreds of years. "

Thanks again for nothing . Old hat stuff . ( Sarcasm here ) SaLuSa , have you read my book ?


" There is no necessity for great catastrophes or disasters, or masses of people dying as a result of them simply to reach that point in time. The only link between the two is the need to cleanse the Earth so that she is ready to ascend with you " .

Right ! If it is pointless then why don't you , with your fictitious powers ( sarcasm here ) don't do something ?


" Our appearance on your television channels will enable us to reach out to people to dispel any doubts that they may have about our intentions. We will go to great lengths to explain why we are here, and the plan to take you up to the end time. "

Are you claiming responsibility for the incident in England in the 1970 ? How do we know it was you and you are not an impostor ?

"To say the least, you will be somewhat different to what you are now as you have yet to rise up to the higher levels of vibration. When you have done so, and work from your higher consciousness you will truly have become Galactic Beings "

Promises , promises , but not even a hint of what are the advantages or disadvantages of this process . " Somewhat different " ….. vague BS ?


"A belief in God will carry you forward, until we can enlighten you although we must say that many inspired teachers are already on Earth. Following religion as such is not our way, as all knowledge can be found within " .

You say : "A belief in god will carry you forward" and " Following religion as such is not our way, as all knowledge can be found within " . Isn't this a contradiction or you really are saying that religion is only for Terrans ? Why don't you say that religions are a pile of BS and " all knowledge can be found within " ?


"With each disaster a loving glow arises from Earth, showing how much love and compassion is being felt for those who are the victims of them. "

OH Yeah . What about the grief of the survivors ?


Has SaLusa got a compassion level meter ? Or he is a sadistic creature that enjoys people squirming under pain . It he was so advanced spiritually and technologically he would have intervened knowing IN ADVANCE of the tsunami disaster . Instead he dangles the ASCENSION CARROT just like the paradise carrot of the christians and Muslim . SaLuSa if , you exist at all , you are not more advanced then us . More likely you are a creature that feeds on the pain and the most vile feeling that humans experience .

I am LORD TRANCOSO of the GALACTIC FEDERATION of LIES, and exposing SaLuSa & her phoney gang of imposters for what they are (not) is a small, but important part of my Earthly mission.

Silent Witness wrote:

Carol wrote:

Silent Witness wrote:All mysterious goings on, can anyone explain why this forum was showing as no longer existed for a number of hours? As for Camelot and Steve, and possibly Lita et al walking too, whats that all about? Has the World gone a bit cuckoo since the terrible events in Japan?

Just a glitch in the back room Barry. Merc hit the wrong button when he was renewing our domain name.

Yes, the world is a bit more cuckoo since Japan and is going to go into a tailspin for the next 6 days. Lybia is going to be attacked by Britian, France and the US. Yellowstone may well erupt this weekend, California will likely have a major quake along with more from Japan. Things are intense right now with the SuperMoon and we are entering into the danger period this weekend.

Thanks Carol, I was a tad concerned for a while, hoping it was a simple error of sorts. As for the rest of the above, another day at the office then?

SuiGeneris wrote:

http://www.astroinquiry.com/2011/03/full-moon-watch-supermoon-a-go-go/#more-2984

MARCH 18TH, 2011

Full Moon Watch: Supermoon A Go-Go

You’ve no doubt heard about tomorrow’s Full Moon Supermoon. What’s that about exactly?

Occasionally the Moon misses the Earth a little too much and decides to move a bit closer to us during her new or full phase. That’s what will happen tomorrow. Astronomers call this a lunar perigee. But a guy named Richard Nolle coined the term Supermoon to describe the proximity. You can read his explanation here — a nice clarification because it dispels a lot of misinformation about the Supermoon too.

Because of the curve of the Earth (and the crazy curve of your mind during a Full Moon), the Supermoon appears gigantic once she’s slid above the magnifying effect of the horizon. She’s so humongous that you start to worry that your roof will be damaged as Luna glides across the night sky. That’s a metaphor, actually, to let you know that this Full Moon might take the top of your head off.

So, best be prepared, especially as she’s huge and super radiant in Virgo. And you know how obsessive and antsy the mind can become when emotions are pushed through the Virgin’s Mercurial filters (Ouch!) Read: slightly manic in the drive for perfection. But work it! Tomorrow’s a fantastic night to go through your home and pull out all of the XXXX you want to get rid of. That pile of Wayne Deyer books, the Milli Vanilli CDs, cooking utensils made in the shape of animals, that depressing peasant dress you purchased from Forever 21 — you get the drift. Think of creating a virginal space for yourself. If nothing else, our environment can mirror the clarity that we’re craving right now. And this creation of a temenos will go a long way towards soothing and supporting you through the wild ride ahead.

Virginal also implies freshness. First-ness. As in “touched for the very first time.” And we’re thirsty for firsts right now. The itch for the new, the revolutionary, the unique, the untried keeps goading us. And yet the bulk of our psychic weight feels missing. Oy. The current planetary clusterfuck in Aries means we’re twitching, twirling and rubbernecking to get a sense of just what exactly the next new thing is going to be. But more, we want to know when movement will commence. Where is our gumption to move forward? In other words, where in the XXXX is Mars; the impulse engine? That’s the catch. (Oh, he’s their honey, lolling in a bathtub — playing with The Fishes. Making the most of all that hot water.)

Mars in dreamy, scheme-diddling, mystical-minded Pisces wants another cocktail and a new Netflix subscription. This is the sort of Mars that likes to get a buzz going and then read trashy romance novels or watch lots of porn on the internet. At least that’s a Mars in Pisces when he isn’t tracking the finer frequencies of his destiny. My natal Mars is in Pisces and I can tell you that it’s a 24/7 challenge to align with such a (powerful) steam pit. The key to working with Mars in the Fishes is to allow the unconscious to do the galvanizing. This is tricky though because if you don’t have a working relationship with the unconscious (through therapy or 12-step or meditation or contemplation or the arts) you’ll have to move through a lot fog before Mars forges a coalition with the Boss — and that would be Neptune. Sounds like a Catch 22 doesn’t it?

But keep swimming. Neptune will give Mars the goods when Mars’ passion is in service of Neptunian vision, otherwise it’s: “Ne’er-do-well, table for one!” And here’s Neptune’s wish list: glamour, beauty, dim lighting, world peace, Hollywood romance, science fiction utopia, peacock feathers, medical marijuana, and lots and lots of astrology. Like, astrology taught in the public schools and stuff. People put astrology under Uranus’ rulership, but that’s ridiculous. Uranus is a flinty, divisive planet. Uranus shatters rocks with his teeth because he’s curious about what’s in the middle. Neptune is mystical and pulls the etheric fluids of the heart towards a melting merge with the ideal of Oneness. Towards the Beloved.

Astrology is a mystic’s art (camouflaged as a soft science), as Dennis Ellwell once said — and how I wish I were there to hear him say it to my face: “If mysticism and astrology agree on one thing, it is the seamlesswholeness of the universe…whenever a correlation between terrestrial and celestial happenings is discussed it has … to be borne in mind that it arises as an expression of this wholeness.” See what I mean? Wholeness is not Uranian territory.

But I’m meandering. Just get rid of the notion that Uranus rules astrology. But do it quick as Neptune is inches away from slipping back into Pisces (next month) — releasing astrological love vibes throughout the atmosphere. Just like in the 60s and 70s, astrology will dominate the Zeitgeist. It’s our time, baby! (What sign are you?)

Anyway, Mars in Pisces again: For those who do do the Work — you’re in luck! All you need to concentrate on (oh the irony) is pulling your inner critic off of your back so you can lay back and observe. Keenly. (That’s the Mars part of the Mars in Pisces equation). Focused contemplation. Let the dream realm, the hints, the eerie synchronicity, the strange blank walls of Zazen infuse your head. Go deeper (Mars again) and you’ll get to the heart of that wholeness that Ellwell was talking about. Rumi did poems about the Mars in Pisces vibes too, and one of them went like this:

If you want what visible reality
can give, you’re an employee.
If you want the unseen world,
you’re not living your truth.
Both wishes are foolish,
but you’ll be forgiven for forgetting
that what you really want is
love’s confusing joy.

Mars in Pisces wants loves’ confusing joy. So it’s OK right now if you’re confused — that’s part of the joy, it’s how the love is guiding you. Me. All of us. We are the world.






Stay with the love cloud and you’ll find that you’re instinctively aligning with the direction you’ll be moving when Mars comes up for air in April — and busts into his own sign. Until then we’ve got Jupiter and Mercury there — now — envisioning the visions, stoking our courage. If you’re still, you can sense a buzzing at the top of your head and maybe behind your eyes. That’s Ram juju beginning to gurgle and coalesce (i.e., a direction). Just sense it. Let it do its thing. It’ll serve you once your hoofs hit the ground. An Aries Sun will soon conjunct Uranus, on the Spring equinox no less, and then honey, well, all bets are off. The Genie’s out of the bottle. What exactly does thatportend? Well, if you have a Tarot deck handy pull out the Fool card. He’s ruled by Uranus. What’s over the edge of that precipice? Any idea? See what I mean?

If Uranus is part of any astrological equation we are always working with zero plus this or that, but always that emptiness of a zero that’s — BOOM! — suddenly filled up with something. So this implies getting comfortable with the unknown. That’s really what Uranus, as a transpersonal planet, relates regarding humankind’s evolution. That we have reached a point in our journey where we surrender the notion of personal doing and align with the dynamism of being. Being just is. Right now. And then something ‘happens’ and then that’s being. Being is always appearing from nothing into something. And then back to nothing and then there’s something. God, I’ve got a headache.

We must work at nurturing this truth, otherwise Uranus will always waylay us. He’s a wild card. The earth moves and then everything is different. Rocks are cracked open (including your hard head). See what’s inside. How many licks to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop? Journey to the Center of the Earth (rent that with your new Netflix subscription). You need to track this XXXX for yourself. Don’t rely on astrologers or psychics or Jesus. All that mish-mash of information will do is compound the Mars in Pisces confusion. Learn to stay with the questions yourself. As Rilke said:

“Try to love the questions themselves, like locked rooms and like books written in a foreign language. Do not now look for the answers. They cannot now be given to you because you could not live them. It is a question of experiencing everything. At present you need to live the question. Perhaps you will gradually, without even noticing it, find yourself experiencing the answer…”

With Uranus in Aries, for the next seven years, everyday is about: “God, I didn’t know that could happen.” Or, “Did you see what that seven year old kid created in his science project — that just might save the planet?!” The Uranian Ram isn’t interested in anything that’s come before. Nothing. Just: One. As in singular sensation. Which is to say, you haven’t thought of it yet. We haven’t discovered it yet. It hasn’t finished cooking yet. But still you want clues! (My god, demanding!)

OK — so: we’re back to Aries’s ruler Mars and following the Red Planet down the whirlpool to Neptune’s liquid radiance — where everything that it nascent within the realm of non-being begins to take shape. This is the most mysterious dimension in life you can visit or contemplate or align with. In quantum physics this ‘realm’ is the blank nothingness of space from which — after a tickle shimmers within the emptiness — out pops a particle. Voilà. The unmanifest made manifest. Aries is in the house, y’all.

Share what you’ve discovered below. But be specific, Aries has no patience for not naming the cat one she’s out of the bag.

Oh, and another thing: HURRY UP!

shiloh wrote:And you know how obsessive and antsy the mind can become when emotions are pushed through the Virgin’s Mercurial filters (Ouch!)But I’m meandering. Just get rid of the notion that Uranus rules astrology. But do it quick as Neptune is inches away from slipping back into Pisces (next month) — releasing astrological love vibes throughout the atmosphere. Just like in the 60s and 70s, astrology will dominate the Zeitgeist. It’s our time, baby ! (What sign are you?)

Mercuriel wrote:

shiloh wrote:And you know how obsessive and antsy the mind can become when emotions are pushed through the Virgin’s Mercurial filters (Ouch!)But I’m meandering. Just get rid of the notion that Uranus rules astrology. But do it quick as Neptune is inches away from slipping back into Pisces (next month) — releasing astrological love vibes throughout the atmosphere. Just like in the 60s and 70s, astrology will dominate the Zeitgeist. It’s our time, baby ! (What sign are you?)

Mercuriel is a Virgo in the Horoscope with 12 Signs and a Leo apparently in the more Ancient Horoscope of 13 Signs which includes Ophiuchus...

Good choice of Words.

Was this written in the stars?

Panic swept the world recently as the Minneapolis Star Tribune reported that our current astrological system

may be off by as much as a month.

This news spread like wildfire, invoking all sorts of reactions from zodiac followers the world over.

But is it true?



http://starseedshaman.info/wordpress/?p=4373

Have we been wrong about our sun signs this whole time? Before you go breaking up with your lover

or rushing off to have your Libra tattoo lasered off, let’s take a closer look at this issue.


Astrological Clock in Prague

The “problem” with our astrological system, as it was reported, is that the slow wobble of the Earth

over the course of 26,000 years (known as Precession of the Equinoxes)

means that we are no longer aligned to the constellations in the same way as we were say 2,000 years ago.1

Yes, this is true.

However, it’s not news.

The ancient astronomers were aware of Precession and took this into account in their observations of the stars.

In fact, they probably knew more about this phenomenon than we know today!

What’s more, this wobble doesn’t even affect Tropical astrology,

which is the system used by most Western astrologers.

Tropical astrology is fixed to the seasons, with the sun rising in each sign at different points in the year.2

Sidereal astrology, more commonly used by Eastern astrologers,

is based on the exact position of the constellations.

It takes into account the position of Earth in relation to the galaxy, not just the solar system. 3

Some say Sidereal astrology is more accurate for this reason,

while others stick to the Tropical system that we’ve been so accustomed to these past 3,000 years.

Still others of course dismiss this issue due to a lack of belief in astrology in the first place.

Astronomers have chimed in, most often stating something to the effect of

“It didn’t matter then, and it doesn’t matter now.”

Yet many people do believe in astrology, ranging from a simple resonance with their sun sign

to consulting their horoscopes on a daily basis and for major life decisions.

If you’re one of those people, put your mind at ease, there is no need to switch your sign at this time.

Susan Miller, creator and astrologer behind Astrology Zone had the following to say about the subject:

Please, don’t believe the hype.

This is not a new concept.

It’s something astrologers have been looking at for years.

We have had time to test this, and it doesn’t work.

Not only are astrologers the world over stating their confidence in the original system

from a subjective standpoint, they are also sharing how the Tropical system has had a sound foundation since its birth.

Dorothy Morgan of Natural Rites & Charms adds:

In western Astrology we use the zodiac belt a 30 degree division of each section of the space around us,

not the constellations.

So it does not matter where the constellations are, we are using the relevant sections of the sky

for which they were named 1000′s of years ago, not the stars themselves, just for this reason.

In researching this article, we found a number of viewpoints and comments

in regards to this topic.

While a few people do seem to resonate with their “new” signs,

the vast majority feel best sticking with their original sign,

often in rather comical displays of their true astrological nature.

Here are a few of our favorites:

This is unfair. Why must I be a Taurus now? – Libra

I’ll become a Pisces again someday…somehow… – Pisces

Leo for life. I’m the only member of my family whose zodiac sign didn’t change – Leo

GRRRR IM AN ARIES NOT A PISCES! – Aries

This is the saddest day of my life, I don’t want to be a Leo! – Cancer

If you’re familiar with the qualities of these signs,

you can see how the commenters display their original sun signs quite perfectly.

Perhaps the most important question to ask yourself in all this,

is which sign you resonate with?

Which astrological system works best for you?

While astrologers will state adamantly that astrology is a science

(and it is, a very precise system of measurement and observation),

it is also a highly subjective and personal belief system for many people,

and one that is open for interpretation.

So if you have spent your whole life in resonance with your sun sign and/or birth chart a

ccording to the Tropical system, there is no need to change now.

However, if you read the “new chart” and feel more drawn to that sun sign,

nobody will stop you from using this interpretation

. Moreover, if you’re one of the lucky ones to align with the 13th sign Ophiuchus,

you may be even more likely to do so.

◦Aries – April 19 to May 13
◦Taurus – May 14 to June 19
◦Gemini – June 20 to July 20
◦Cancer – July 21 to August 9
◦Leo – August 10 to September 15
◦Virgo – September 16 to October 30
◦Libra – October 31 to November 22
◦Scorpio – November 23 to November 29
◦Ophiuchus – November 29 to December 17
◦Sagittarius – December 18 to January 18
◦Capricorn – January 19 to February 15
◦Aquarius – February 16 to March 11
◦Pisces – March 12 to April 18


Symbol for Ophiuchus, the Serpent Holder

You might have noticed 13 signs in the chart above.

Who is this Ophiuchus, and where did he come from?

Ophiuchus is also known as Serpentarius, the Serpent holder.

This constellation has also been known for thousands of years,

yet was discarded by Babylonian astrologers

to make for a tidier 12-sign zodiac.

While Ophiuchus is no new discovery either, this has been another controversial topic

in recent years among astrology enthusiasts.

Should shifts in the position of heavenly objects change our astrological system, or not?

Ophiuchus is not commonly included in either astrological system,

though some astrologers do include this constellation in their readings.

It seems those born within the dates of November 29 and December 17

are most open to the idea, given that their sign may have changed to something more exotic.

Some of the qualities of Ophiuchus the Serpent holder are as follows:

Ophiuchus: interpreter of dreams, vivid premonitions, attracts good luck and fruitful blessings

, lofty ideals, longevity, aspirations of healing the ills of man, architect, builder,

reaches for the stars, receives the favor of those in authority, etc.

There are a few interpretations as to who Ophiuchus represents, but the most recent and common theor

y is that it represents a man named Asclepius from Greek mythology. In the myth,

Asclepius found the secret to eternal life when he watched one snake revive another with certain healing herbs.

Zeus struck him down with a lightning bolt to prevent humankind from reaching widespread immortality,

but honored his accomplishment by placing his likeness in the stars.

Due to its close proximity to the constellation Sagittarius however, it is less commonly used as a sign of the zodiac. 4

Perhaps at some point in our distant future we’ll be ready for a new astrological system,

by including new constellations or exacting more precise measurements of Earth’s relationship to the cosmos

. But for now, the tropical system of astrology works just fine.

What’s even more certain is that this recent revelation of ancient knowledge

most certainly will not change who you are.



Ophiuchus

A 13th (and 14th) New Starsign in the Reconfiguration of the Duodecimal Astroanalysis in the Dragon Nodes


Here (below from the address to Cornelia and astrologer Eric Francis) are some details from Laurie (LibraMoon) Corzett from seerseeker yahoo forum.

I agree with Laurie and Eric; yet would like to add, that things are a little more than they seem. The Tropical Zodiak is indeed extended in the 13th starsign of Ophiuchus.

Note the superposition of the Vedic Zodiacial Wheel with the Tropical (Western/Babylonian-Mesopotamian) One.

It can easily be discerned, that every 780,000 Days or 2135.57 Tropical Years (1 Tropical Year of 365.24219 'Mean Solar Days' is compared to 1 Civil (Gregorian) Year of 365.2425 'Mean Solar Days'), a complete Mayan precession of 26,000 Platonic Great Years of 360 Days each or 9,360,000 Kin in total realigns the two 'Circles of the Mazzaroth'.




So after one precessional cycle the Vedic (Sidereal starry background) and the Tropical (seasonal) Zodiacal Wheels coincide again.



Rather the 13th Starsign defines an axis akin the Dragon Nodes of the Northern Head and the Southern Tail in the two transitions between Scorpio and Sagittarius as the 13th sign of Ophiuchus Arachne on November 22nd/23rd and the ingress from Taurus into Gemini on May 20th/21st/22nd as the 14th starsign of Arachne Ophiuchus or 'Dinah Spider-Serpent-Woman'.

As the 12 starsigns of the mazzaroth represent the duodecimal partitioning of a circle; the 12 starsigns are archetypically mapped as many things and particularly the 12 Sons of Jacob as the 'Tribes of Israel', with Dinah the 11th Child and only named daughter of Jacob becoming the one-to-one shadow mapping for each of the other 12 signs or 'brothers'.

1. Aries=Reuben for the March Equinox of the Red Chroma under Mars

2. Taurus=Simeon for the April Ingress of the Orange Chroma and the Point of Arachne after Decan 3 under Venus

14. Arachne=Shadow of the Cosmic Twinship as the Black Chroma of the Yin or positive polarity

3. Gemini=Levi for the May Ingress of the Yellow Chroma and the Point of Arachne before Decan 1 under Mercury

4. Cancer=Dan for the June Solstice of the Lime Chroma under the Full Moon

5. Leo=Judah for the July Ingress of the Green Chroma under the Sun

6. Virgo=Gad for the August Ingress of the Aquamarine Chroma under Chiron

7. Libra=Napthali for the September Equinox of the Cyan Chroma under the (true) Dragon Node of the New Moon

8. Scorpio=Asher for the October Ingress of the Turquoise Chroma and the Point of Ophis after Decan 3 under Pluto

13. Ophiuchus=Dinah of the Cosmic Twinship as the White Chroma of the Yang or negative polarity

9. Sagittarius=Issachar for the November Ingress of the Blue Chroma and the Point of Ophis before Decan 1 under Jupiter

10. Capricorn=Zebulon for the December Solstice of the Indigo Chroma under Saturn

11. Aquarius=Joseph for the January Ingress of the Magenta Chroma under Uranus

12. Pisces=Benjamin for the February Ingress of the Purple Chroma under Neptune



One can see, that all colour pairings in opposition, that is six signs or 180° apart, will neutralise to either Black in Subtraction (say paint or mass in Einstein's Energy E=mc²) or to White in Addition (say ElectroMagnetic Radiation or EMR in Planck's Quantum Formula Energy E=hf).

Adding the Primary Colour-Triplet Red-Green-Blue under Addition so yields Pure White and the Secondary Colour-Triplet, (as Anticolours one-to-one to the Primary Colour-Triplet) Cyan-Magenta-Yellow will Subtract to Pure Black under Subtraction. Unequal mixing of the colours then enables the production of all the other colours and shades in the rainbow spectrum of the optical astrophysics.

Red+Cyan=White under Addition and Red+Cyan=Black under Subtraction as the Aries-Libra Opposition or axis of the Mazzaroth in Houses 1 and 7.

Similarly the Colour-Couplings Orange+Turquoise/Aquamarine for Houses 2 and 8; Yellow+Blue for Houses 3 and 9; Lime+Indigo for Houses 4 and 10; Green+Magenta for Houses 5 and 11 and Aquamarine/Turquoise+Purple for Houses 6 and 12.

The Black of Arachne between Orange and Yellow then is harmonized as the 'Axis of the Cusps' with the White of Ophiuchus between Turquoise/Aquamarine and Blue as the superimposition of the colour-anticolour harmonizations in the pure neutrality of the Black under Inertial Subtraction of Matter/Mass and the White under Radiative Addition of EMR.



The new astroanalysis specifies the Dragon Head as the New Libran Ruler as the New Moon reconfiguration for the Saros cycles for the eclipses, with the Solar Eclipses at New Moon conjunctions harmonising the older Leo-Sun and Cancer Full Moon zodiacal 'parenthood' then replaced in the newer Saturnian Capricorn Father - Full Moon Cancerian Mother opposition.

The previous North-South oppositions of the Dragon Nodes so become dynamic, with the fixed Northern Head of the Saros transforming into the Ourobos of the Milky Way (as ecliptic plane) as the tail periodically gets 'swallowed' or 'eaten' by the transiting New Moons in the Libran Balance of the Scales of the Mazzaroth in Dinah Ophiuchus or Dinah Arachne. This recurrent revisitation is accented whenever the New Moon conjuncts the Sun through the journey through the starsigns and so the Solar Eclipses.



This description was made cosmic law on January 4th, 2011 in Capricorn and so the occultation of the Old Fatherhood became revitalised and redefined in the New Moon Dragon of the Arachnisation of the Mazzaroth.

The 12 starbrothers so become shadowed in 12 starsisters and transmutate the 12 brothers into 12 bothersisters or Heshes and 12 sisterbrothers or Shehes in the 24 Elders of encoded scrolls, say as in Revelation.4 as the two interwoven circles about the Noahic Rainbow Covenant of the 'Coats of Many Colours' (Genesis.9.11-17;37.3). This is termed the Dragonomy of the harmonisation of the sexes in the liberation of Eve as the Mother of all Living in her archetyped descendant Dinah, Daughter of Jacob-Israel and Leah-Heal.

As Eve is the 'flesh of Adam', she cannot become independent until she, as Lilith or the Succubi of the archetyped 'Heaven' becomes 'real' in the 'Realm of the Earth'.

This renders the cellular mitosis in geometric progression as the three generations: 1-2-4-... in AdamEve=Adam+Eve=AdamEve+EveAdam in the natural bisexual androgyny aka a Dragonomy as the 'Heavenly Wedding' or the 'Alchemical Matrimony' of Self to Shadow Self.

It is then the Transformation of the Scorpio of Arachne-Dinah-Ophis into the Eagle of John or the Phönix of the Resurrection/Rebirth, which represents Ophiuchus Dinah Arachne as the Ophis-Dinah-Arachne Black to White Metamorphosis of the 'Tamed Serpent' in the Sagittarian Blueyness of the BiDragon of the Two Moons of the eclipses.

Dinah Ophiuchus Arachne so represents this 'Archetypical Mirroring' between the Blackness of the Creation in Sophic Wisdom of the (Particular) Body (or Universe) with the Whiteness of the Spirit of the Creator in Gnostic Understanding of the (Waved) Mind (or Metaphysical Spirit) in a form of advanced quantum mechanics of the wave-particle duality of the 'Alive Dead One' being the reflection of the 'Dead Alive One' and in the resolution of Schrödinger's quantum paradox of the 'collapsed wavefunctions' - it is both all of the time and no paradox exists in the physics of the higher dimensional mirrors.



shiloh




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OK, people. This is not a NEW sign. The constellation Ophiuchus (also known as Serpentarius, the Serpent Holder), the 13th sign of the zodiac, has been known about since ancient times,
but it has been ignored.
It was never added to the Zodiac chart as astrologers said that the Sun went straight from Scorpius into Sagittarius, disregarding the fact that the sun travelled through Ophiuchus for 19 days before entering Sagittarius.
Basically what that means is that there IS another sign, but it's been lost.

Western Astrology does not change. Vedic Indian astrology IS effected by this.

However, there are all kinds of Zodiacs. For example:
THE FOLLOWING SIDEREAL ZODIAC IS FOR PEOPLE BORN BEFORE 1990
ARIES: April 19 - May 13 TAURUS: May 14 - June 19 GEMINI: June 20 - July 20 CANCER = July 21 - August 9 LEO: August 10 - September 15 VIRGO: September 16 - October 30 LIBRA: October 31 - November 22 SCORPIO: November 23 - November 29 OPHIUCHUS: November 30 - December 17 SAGITTARIUS: December 18 - January 18 CAPRICORN: January 19 - February 15 AQUARIUS: February 16 - March 11 PISCES: March 12 - April 18
The following Sidereal Zodiac below is for children born beginning 1990:
AQUARIUS: March 26 - April 18 PISCES: April 19 - May 26 ARIES: May 27 - June 20 TAURUS: June 21 - July27 GEMINI: July 28 - August 27 CANCER: August 28 - September 17 LEO: September 18 - October 24 VIRGO: October 25 - December 9 LIBRA: December 10 - January 1 SCORPIO: January 2 - January 8 OPHIUCHUS: January 9 - Janury 26 SAGITTARIUS: January 27 - February 27 CAPRICORN: February 28 - March 25



Attention All Astronomers -- The World is Flat

Dear Friend and Reader:

I wish I could put out a press release announcing that the world is flat, and send astronomers scrambling -- to return the favor for when an astronomer sends out a press release announcing that your zodiac sign is wrong. That's what happened this week when the following went viral faster than the dude who got rich dancing around like a dork in 34 countries:
Astronomer Parke Kunkle says that due to changes in the Earth's alignment the dates of many zodiac signs have changed, according to NBC. In addition, there may be a 13th Zodiac sign: Ophiuchus. Kunkle says that as the Earth and Sun slowly move the signs gradually change, as expected. The change didn't happen over night either. The 12 signs were designated to different periods of the year almost 3,000 years ago, when astrology began, and since then the Earth's position in relation to the sun has changed.


The tropical zodiac is in the inner wheel, the sidereal zodiac is in the outer wheel. Notice how they are 'out of alignment' by about one whole sign -- to be exact, 23 degrees. This is due to precessional movement, which shifts the two zodiacs by one degree every 70 years.
Either this is a joke or Parke Kunkle is truly ignorant of his own science. It's probably a bit of both.

There are two zodiacs in common use. Kunkle is describing what is called the sidereal zodiac: the backdrop of the stars. It's not the zodiac used by most Western astrologers; it's the one used by Vedic astrologers, the kind in India, and a few in our part of the world. The two zodiacs are offset by about 23 degrees. I'll explain why in a moment.

Here in the West, we use a zodiac that follows the seasons. It's called the tropical zodiac. It's based on the position of the Sun's rays and the tropics -- that's why it's called tropical. There is another one, based on the positions of the stars. It's called the sidereal zodiac. If Kunkle doesn't know this, it's like a race car driver not understanding the concept of a tire. If so, he also doesn't understand a long list of other concepts that must make it very difficult for him to do his work. Well, that's what grad students are for. Notably, the sidereal zodiac is a feature in all astrology software.

In the Western or tropical zodiac, the Sun enters the tropical sign Aries the day of the vernal equinox each March. That's the day that the Sun's rays meet the equator directly overhead -- the first day of spring in the Northern Hemisphere. (In the prior draft and in the audio I said 'at a right angle'. Same idea.) The Sun enters the tropical sign Cancer when the Sun's rays square the Tropic of Cancer -- the first day of summer in the Northern Hemisphere, or summer solstice. The Sun enters Libra when the Sun's rays square the equator again in September. The Sun enters Capricorn when the Sun's rays square the Tropic of Capricorn each December, which is the first day of winter in the Northern Hemisphere (the seasons are reversed in the Southern Hemisphere).

You then take those four cardinal points and divide them equally and you have the 12 signs of the tropical horoscope. There are no 'extra signs' added -- the tropical zodiac is a division of the 360-degree wheel of the year into 12 equal slices of 30 degrees. This is not rocket science -- but it is science.




Look! It's already there!

As mentioned, the Western zodiac begins the day of the vernal equinox. The position of the Sun that day is called the Aries Point -- or the Sidereal Vernal Point. If you read Planet Waves, you read about the Aries Point nearly every week. It's extremely sensitive. The position of the Sidereal Vernal Point or Aries Point moves gradually as the Earth wobbles on its axis. Currently, the SVP is at 5 degrees Pisces on the sidereal zodiac. Hence, the tropical sign Aries begins in the sidereal sign Pisces. And as the Earth wobbles, the SVP is moving backwards toward Aquarius -- hence "the Age of Aquarius." About 2,000 years ago, the tropical signs aligned with the sidereal signs. Now they have precessed backwards by about 23 degrees. And for that matter, so has Christmas.

We don't adjust Christmas one day every 70 years but sure enough, eventually, Dec. 25 will fall in the middle of Northern Hemisphere summer, with no help from global warming.

So, hear ye, hear ye! Vedic astrologers use the the sidereal zodiac, and most Western astrologers use the tropical zodiac. They have different purposes, and different philosophies. Both zodiacs work. Most Western astrologers are familiar with their sidereal chart -- it tells a different story, and can reveal deeper tendencies you may have noticed but not named. I'm a Pisces in tropical astrology but an Aquarius in sidereal astrology. If you're curious, cast your sidereal chart and see where the planets show up.

As for Ophiuchus. This is an old hoax. Historically, Ophiuchus has never been listed as a constellation in the sidereal zodiac. It is a constellation out there, but it's off the ecliptic (that is, it's not along the path of the Sun through the sky). I've read that Ptolemy mentions it in his literature as an off-zodiac constellation, meaning that the Sun never travels through it. In any event, there are some two dozen constellations that touch the ecliptic; but the sidereal zodiac uses just 12 of them.

The origin of the hoax is a sci-fi author named John Sladek -- a satire writer who died in 2000. Sladek liked to prank astrology, and he has a whole novel about a fictitious 13th sign based on Ophiuchus he called Arachne that was "suppressed by the scientific community." The Ophiuchus hoax first made its rounds in the late 1990s and pops up again like those emails from the guy in Nigeria who wants you to send him your bank account number so he can transfer $15 million your way.

Yours & truly,

Mercuriel wrote:Mercuriel is a Virgo in the Horoscope with 12 Signs and a Leo apparently in the more Ancient Horoscope of 13 Signs which includes Ophiuchus...

Good choice of Words