Here is a compilation of the comments from this thread, so far. See the previous post for a compilation of the comments from 'The United States of the Solar System' thread, on Avalon 1.
1. Excellent!
2. Hey ODM,
Some of these so called factions you have mentioned, have been doing things for so long, that they don't know anything else. They have been doing it for thousands of years. Been doing it for so long that they know nothing else. Call it a habit. When Alex Collier mentions "a new place of knowing", the ones that have the oxygen based frequencies understand that concept. The hydrogen based ones do not.
What you are asking for, is at present, impossible. Only a few seek some of the similarities you seek. What sticks out is what is in your heart and even though you may not think you are an experiencer, you certainly are. Just by anchoring your energies to the Planet, you are doing the Creator's will. So don't be so hard on yourself. Personally, I think what we all need to understand out of all of this is that we are heading to a new place of knowing. Asking the questions or asking about the possibilities is expressing freedom on many levels that we sometime can not see.
Rest a sured, that things will be changing dramatically in our very near future. You can also say the darkside are even causing those changes to come into our near future that much sooner. Agreements were made and not honored. The darkside were presented with an ultimatum and the darkside, for it's own salvation, was given a way out for providing the services of the negative polarity they chose to participate in. They however didn't honor those agreements with the original intention and more or less said, "F U".
A prime example are the Draconians. Including all the branches coming off of that lineage, which were sub contracted, which would include certain factions of Greys that are sentient, other Reptilian factions, and God knows what else.
There is no reasoning with some of these groups. Their message is that if they can't have their way with this world, they will destroy it. And that message has been around for a long time now. But will that message become a reality? According to some who spread the fear mongering. But in reality, it is nothing more than the bully's resolve or better yet, his threat. I say this because there are to many others working on this Planet's behalf. Some of those who are found in our books of myth, who are present in the now, have always been in service to this Planet.
If you also look at some who have gotten a real bad rap, by the darkside playing the discrediting card. Because we hear what the darkside put out there and believe without testing it out, assuming in ignorance that what they say is true.
It would be so much easier if everyone would embrace self governance in alignment with the Grace of the Creator, instead of all this separation.
The United Nations as it stands is a big fat joke. It has been hijacked. Talk about a building full of bad bricks. I have only dark things to say about this place and will not comment further.
Just thought I would add my 2 cents and to let you know you aren't the only one in the woods.
3. Aloha Lionhawk and Oxy. The questions that also come into play here are these: Is Px real and headed this way? Is the galactic wave real and headed this way?
These are crucial questions because how can these other off-worlders be held responsible for destroying the planet if it is going to get a major overhaul from the nearing proximity of Px or being washed over by the galactic wave?
One such vision from Dr. David Jacobs who wrote The Threat is that whole grey alien hybrid is for them to populate this planet AFTER what I suspect "the galactic wave." I'm still not sure about Px although I know quite a few others are convinced. My supposition about the wave is based on testimony from Eleni who is an abductee and did report that she had been taken tothe future to an underground city where she did personally experience the effects of the galactic wave. From what she reported I seriously doubt too many would survive such an event on the planet's surface. This brings us to the next question. Ascension or transformation into another density frequency as a result of experiencing the wave?
We know that Astral Walker is claiming his ET resources showed him how Px is coming in and will effect the sun where the sun will expand (expect major mass CMEs) having a major impact on the solar system wiping out Mercury and Venus, then shuck its outer husk.
There are also reports from other scientists who think that our solar system, including earth transiting the galactic plane will be pulled into the Milky Way galaxy.
Who is to say if any of this will occur? Yet irrespective on what one thinks about the ETs I seriously doubt that they are responsible for the current and upcoming earth changes beyond what mankind has already done with his toxic pollution.
4. Aloha Carol.
Carol said,
"We know that Astral Walker is claiming his ET resources showed him how Px is coming in and will effect the sun where the sun will expand (expect major mass CMEs) having a major impact on the solar system wiping out Mercury and Venus, then shuck its outer husk."
Here's a question. If the solar system is alive as a whole body, why would the Sun destroy one or more of it's vital parts? Why does Astral Stalker's energy signature come from the lower fourth? Why is he in fear of what the sun might do? Why do the Draconians fear the Sun? Further more if you look at this with 3D eyes like the scientists do where everything as far as results are based in a reactionary type test tube, never seeing the Universal dance within that tube, is it a wonder we are fed with the resulting fear?
The Galactic Wave has been verified. It is just a matter of when. Based on what actual evidence, who says it will destroy everything? The sad part of what an abductee might experience, is information being projected into the mind of that subject. Mind you I am not doubting what Eleni might have experienced. I have seen what some of these projections can do. Also the following behaviors that result from it. And if she was projected into the future, what she saw was a probability at best. That can always change in a second.
What if this wave will bring the codes necessary for this sector to evolve? What if it can rewrite the codes that these other factions have tampered with in their quest for power? I say bring it on because according to what time I have spent on this, I do not see it as a negative thing. And what if it is a negative thing? Does that mean we will be destroyed? Maybe 3D wise. But the real answer to that is we won't be destroyed. I have witness the action of resurrection.
While we are at it, since Earth was side stepped to another time line, who says we won't be put back on the original time line before this wave gets here? My point being is that so much can happen by the time it gets here. As long as we keep looking at things with 3D eyes, we will be constantly bombarded with the reactionary results steeped in fear. If we stay hypnotized by that fear, we will get caught in the wake of what may come.
Here lately I have been working on some of these issues. What I haven't mentioned is what is going on behind the scenes in regards to some of what we call, Ascended Masters. They are preparing. As one stated he will come as himself after things settle from what is heading our way. If things go as planned, by the time Dec. 2012 gets here, we will already find ourselves in a new place of being and knowing before hand. I am very optimistic as to our future. It is upon us now. So enjoy the now with the ones you love and we will all be just fine. Folks like Astral Stalker are probably running for their lives, looking for a place to hide, keeping those around him in a state of fear, controlling their life streams to command his will from lower fourth density energy, forgetting their lives are already blessed. Another so called light worker bites the dust. It happens all the time sad to say. Reminds me of the movie Poltergeist where that preacher led his follows to a cave. Forever trapped, soul wise. These so called end days are very interesting indeed.
Even the Grey invasion is a probability. There are so many probabilities and the majority of them have been nullified.
When the colors of the planetary bodies start changing their colors and you see northern lights everywhere on the Planet, grab some popcorn and a diaper. LOL
5. Orthodoxy this entire post is one of the best things you ever wrote .
It 's brilliant my friend.
It reminded me of the profoundness of that teenager's speech in front of the UN .
" The girl who silenced the world for 5 minutes "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQmz6Rbpnu0I think you could have your place by her there.
Thank You
6. Popcorn and a diaper, huh? Hahahahha.. I'm not afraid. What is there to be afraid of? Potentials are just that, potentials and have yet to manifest. And I tend to be pretty blase when things do happen where I'm
I raise these questions because they are what pop into mind. I do recall what Patrick Geryl said and along with Paul LaViolette with respect to the superwave theory. And there is plenty of evidence of the sun doing its CME thingy from the past. If Px does come in closer with it's multiple trail of orbiting satellites it only stands to reason that there will be increased solar activity. And as I recall, the planet is also in an Oort cloud, an immense spherical cloud surrounding the planetary system and extending approximately 3 light years, about 30 trillion kilometers from the Sun.
The other issue is the sun and massive CMEs the closer Px gets to it or do you think that just a hoax as well.
Oxy, you've done it again. You've raised so many questions it's going to take me a good hour just to sort through it and think about the points you raise. However, I think the Black Madonna different, as is Kali (the dance of destruction is done without malice and Kali is not after collecting souls from what I know. That is what makes Lucifer different as Lucifer wants to be God and have people worship him. Yet we know that Lucifer was given control over this dominion and that those who know how to create heaven on earth will escape his influence. From what I know of those who are fully engaged in spiritual warfare, Reptilians are involved but I'm not sure about their relationship with Lucifer. Is it different? One friend who went through an exorcism spoke of the demons coming out of her that looked like dragons. To her this stuff is real.
As for the Oort cloud there is info below.
Tidal forces affecting the Oort cloud come from stars in the Milky Way's galactic disk with some pull from the galactic core. The tide results from the sun and comets being different distances from these massive amounts of matter. The force on the comets from these tides is greater than the perturbations of passing stars, and comets beyond 200,000 AU are easily lost to interstellar space. This pull contributes to the steady state which replenishes the outer comets that are randomly distributed away from the ecliptic plane.
The total mass of comets in the Oort cloud is estimated to be 40 times that of Earth. This matter is believed to have originated at different distances and therefore temperatures from the sun, which explains the compositional diversity observed in comets.
Typical noontime temperatures are four degrees Celsius above absolute zero. As temperatures move toward absolute zero, the kinetic energy of the molecules approach a finite value. Absolute zero should not be considered a state of zero energy without motion. There still remains some molecular energy, although it is at a minimum, at absolute zero.
The Oort cloud is the source of long-period comets and possibly higher-inclination intermediate comets that were pulled into shorter period orbits by the planets, such as Halley and Swift-Tuttle. Comets can also shift their orbits due to jets of gas and dust that rocket from their icy surface as they approach the sun. Although they get off course, comets do have initial orbits with widely different ranges, from 200 years to once every million years or more. Comets entering the planetary region for the first time, come from an average distance of 44,000 astronomical units.
Long period comets can appear at any time and come from any direction. Bright comets can usually be seen every 5-10 years. Two recent Oort cloud comets were Hyakutake and Hale-Bopp. Hyakutake was average in size, but came to 0.10 AU (15,000,000 km) from Earth, which made it appear especially spectacular. Hale-Bopp, on the other hand, was an unusually large and dynamic comet, ten times that of Halley at comparable distances from the sun, making it appear quite bright, even though it did not approach closer than 1.32 AU (197,000,000 km) to the Earth.
The Kuiper Belt and The Oort Cloud
There are presently nine known objects orbiting between Jupiter and Neptune (including 2060 Chiron (aka 95 P/Chiron) and 5145 Pholus; see the MPC's list). The IAU has designated this class of objects as Centaurs. These orbits are not stable. These objects are almost certainly "refugees" from the Kuiper Belt. Their future fate is not known. Some of these show some cometary activity (ie, their images are a little fuzzy indicating the presence of a diffuse coma). The largest of these is Chiron which is about 170 km in diameter, 20 times larger than Halley. If it ever is perturbed into an orbit that approaches the Sun it will be a truly spectacular comet.
Curiously, it seems that the Oort Cloud objects were formed closer to the Sun than the Kuiper Belt objects. Small objects formed near the giant planets would have been ejected from the solar system by gravitational encounters. Those that didn't escape entirely formed the distant Oort Cloud. Small objects formed farther out had no such interactions and remained as the Kuiper Belt objects.
Several Kuiper Belt objects have been discovered recently including 1992 QB1 and 1993 SC (above). They appear to be small icy bodies similar to Pluto and Triton (but mostly smaller). There are more than 800 known trans-Neptunian objects (as of early 2004); see the MPC's list. Many orbit in 3:2 resonance with Neptune (as does Pluto). Color measurements of some of the brightest have shown that they are unusually red. In late 2002, a Kuiper Belt object over 1000 km in diameter was discovered and provisionally designated 2002 LM60 "Quaoar". In early 2004 an even larger one, 2004 DW, was found (its size isn't well known yet, but it's almost certainly smaller than Pluto). And in late 2005 the discovery of 2003 UB313 (now officially named "Eris") was announced; it is very likely somewhat larger than Pluto.
A team of astronomers led by Anita Cochran report that the Hubble Space Telescope has detected extremely faint Kuiper Belt objects (left). The objects are very small and faint perhaps only 20 km or so across. There may be as many as 100 million such comets in low-inclination orbits and shining brighter than the HST's magnitude-28 limit. (A follow-up HST observation failed to confirm this observation, however.)
Spectra and photometric data have been obtained for 5145 Pholus. Its albedo is very low (less than 0.1). Its spectra indicates the presence of organic compounds, which are often very dark (e.g. the nucleus of Comet Halley).
Some astronomers believe that Triton, Pluto and its moon Charon are merely the largest examples of Kuiper Belt objects (Pluto can still be considered a member of the Kuiper Belt in addition to its classification as a "dwarf planet").
In 1950 Jan Oort noticed that
1. no comet has been observed with an orbit that indicates that it came from interstellar space,
2. there is a strong tendency for aphelia of long period comet orbits to lie at a distance of about 50,000 AU, and
3. there is no preferential direction from which comets come.
From this he proposed that comets reside in a vast cloud at the outer reaches of the solar system. This has come to be known as the Oort Cloud. The statistics imply that it may contain as many as a trillion (1e12) comets. Unfortunately, since the individual comets are so small and at such large distances, we have no direct evidence about the Oort Cloud.
The Oort Cloud may account for a significant fraction of the mass of the solar system, perhaps as much or even more than Jupiter. (This is highly speculative, however; we don't know how many comets there are out there nor how big they are.)
In 2004, the discovery of an object known as 2003 VB12 "Sedna" was announced. Its orbit is intermediate between the Kuiper Belt and what was previously thought to be the inner part of the Oort Cloud. Perhaps this object is the first of a new class of "inner Oort Cloud" objects.
But Kuiper Belt and the Oort Cloud are more than distant curiosities. They are relatively pristine remnants of the nebula from which the entire solar system was formed. Their composition and distribution places important constraints on models of the early evolution of the solar system.
7. From Spirit creation takes place manifesting the world we experience .
Matter, energy , space , time and therefore the galaxy , the planets ,the stars , our sun are
mirroring Consciousness as it evolves .
The Sun to me is reflecting our Heart . As we individually and collectively center in our Heart allowing it to fully
expand and open so will our Sun expand accordingly not as a threatening process but rather
as the perfect mirror of our inner transformation.
There is nothing to fear about this . As Lionhawk points out the whole universe is a living being.
There is only life and the expression of Life in perfect balance always .
As understanding of who we really are takes place , as we recognize the divine process we are integral part of expansion
takes place and Light floods in.
So Within So Without.
8. Everything starts from imagination orthodoxy. Without it the world would'nt even exist. You have all it takes to accomplish your dream for you have the vision and your heart as the carrier wave. Write that book my friend and spread it viral . You've got the talent as a writer and you are truly inspired .And besides you can write so quickly that this book can be on the shelves right on time . No one else can do this for you but you can do it for everyone else.
9. Solar governance?
Gotta learn to walk before running.....
Self governance would be a start!
10. I would like to make a distinction (If I may) as I see it not being made and for those just coming into the Information - It is necessary.
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When We talk about Personalities at the Dimensional Level of Powers and Principalities (Such as a Queen of Heaven or a Planetary Prince, etc.) - Gender is really about an intended look for the moment and is not a selection which is Static. IE - It is scalable and changeable depending on the Entity's / Personality's intentions in relation to actions It is undertaking at any one time.
What I mean to say is that these Personalities can take on any Shape - Gender - or Position that They deem necessary so as to achieve Their Goals.
In fact most personalities in the Higher 4th, 5th and Upper Densities would be considered by Us as Hermaphoditic in Gender. That said - You likely already knew this Oxy. Its simply for People scanning the Thread who may not be aware of It as I'd seen that it had not been displayed yet.
11. You have to look within Oxy for if you search for Truth without it will always elude you . You may even find several truths standing in contradiction with one another opening the door to more and more speculation . And when you think you know the next moment you realize you don't .This is how we keep the world alive . If you could only for a moment stop the inner dialogue you may catch a glimpse of a freedom and peace that no mental process will ever reach and gradually begin to understand the world as it is in it's naked state.
I wrote the following for a friend of mine lately but I realize I wrote it for all of us that get caught on the merry go round .
Your longing for Mother wrapping you in her wings ... To let yourself sink to the very core of her Heart .
To tune your soul and body to her soul and body and listen to her soothing song of everlasting peace .
To let her kiss the darkest corners , inner turmoil, fears and bring them to complete rest .
Stop the inner dialogue and find your way back to the perfect stand still .
Lay down the arms , every thought that we hold to define ourselves and live our life with some sense of composure .
Be completely naked in her womb ...stripped of every word , every idea , every single tremor in the mind .
Withold nothing , give .. give away every thing so as to hold on to none .
Let the walls crumble , the dream dissolve , remove the 3D plug .
A moment of nothing , nothing at all , only trust in her arms .
When humans become too much , when there is too much noise around , when one does'nt know anymore
and one feels lost and tired ...Time to go blind , to go deaf , to go mute to this world and find that other world
ever present , ever silent to this one , ever tranquil , ever beautifull and ever perfect .
Mother holds you in her infinite Love and takes you there ...
You close your eyes and hear the sound waves landing on the distant shore , the seagulls flapping their wings ,
the sun warming your body , the soft breeze caressing your cheeks and blowing in your hair .
As slowly you let go of it all you discover you can fly and reach the mountains ... the smell of the leaves and fresh earth
under your feet ..the majesty of long standing trees holding their brothers and sisters over far reaching distances through
their roots . The fragance of blue and yellow flowers are showing you the way to the hill's crown....Your true eyes allow
you to see lands never visited before .. The water fall you meet gives you fresh and invigorating water to drink .
You watch it running through every cell of your now transparent body making it glow with sparkling light .
As sunset falls you gaze at the night sky filled with stars .
Everything seems to fit ... nothing to add .. nothing to take away .....You know you reached the river of
suspended time and you feel deep within a Love so great that it blinds you and you know at the core or your heart Mother has
taught you once more that the cloth of infinity is what you are made of and where you belong , where you always are ,
before you dream the world.
Much love for you
mudra
12. I believe we will first have to bring peace within ourselves , our families , our communities , our countries , our Earth before we can contemplate beyond.
Lao Russel was an inspiring person
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTCQf3iVssQ&feature=player_embeddedLove from me
mudra
13. As well as It "Soothes the Savage Beast..."
We must have both to Integrate them and appreciate a Third.
14. orthodoxymoron wrote:
So...do we need the bad side of Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, and Anna (in 'V') ?
Its not that We need Them as Individuals per se but rather for the Lessons They teach Us about Others and Ourselves as well.
In order to move past Error - One must see where Error was made - Understand the Error and thereby move through It in the Integration of Understanding how the Error came about so It doesn't get repeated...
Sort of like been there - Seen that - Got the T-Shirt. This implies that One has come to understand what has gone before. How can One stay away from repeating another's Errors If they don't walk - At least figuratively in the Error-maker's Shoes ?
Now honestly - All I meant to imply above by My comment is that "Music soothes the Savage Beast"...
15. Oxy - I have downloaded the additional A.R. Bourdon & Eric Julien Material...
I will read the Material tonight and have comments for You tomorrow. As I have said before - What makes You think You're the only One interested in Solar System Governance...
Many are (And are working hard towards It) but We must get Planetary Governance straightened out first. That said - The Machine Gun cresecendo of the pace of Your questioning is remarkable and appreciated Dear Brother.
That said - I will endeavour to be worthy of It. If only My Twin Flame wasn't in such need ATM - I could do better than I have. Owell - This will change...
16.
Raven wrote:
orthodoxymoron wrote:
I was serious when I said that I hoped that this activity was being duly noted somewhere in the galaxy. I fear that we are headed down the wrong road, and that we will not turn back, regardless of the warnings, and regardless of the rantings and ravings of lunatics such as myself. I really wish that I had a shallow underground civilian base to go down into. At this point - I am ready to go down - and stay down - for a long, long time.
Indeed Oxy, duly noted it is. You will not be alone hiding under those rocks.
Rev.6 KJV
[12] And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
[13] And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
[14] And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
[15] And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
[16] And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
[17] For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
17. OK - I have read the Bourdon Material as well as the Julien Material and It correclates with what I have been trying to get out...
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Simply put - I've been trying to tell many that the whole Rebellion / Power Struggle Issue has been Their Issue...
The Bible is Their Story - Not Ours. Did We fall with Them - Yep - But then You'll follow someone Whos never lied to you before won't You...
We've learned the Discernment on that one - Late Yes - But learned It We have...
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BTW - As an aside...
R.I.P.
Zecharia Sitchin passed away last Week...
Born July 1920 (age 90) - Baku, Azerbaijan SSR
Died October 9, 2010 - New York, New York
Thanks for the Enlightenment. You've shed light into Dark corners and for that - We thank You...
> Go easy Zecharia...
18. Yeah its definately a three way power struggle but lets simplify It first - Then complicate it later...
> One Being wishes for a Larger Agenda to be implemented - Universe Wide (Perhaps Prime Creator ?).
> Another Being is in Charge by proxy of that Agenda (Perhaps the local System Sovereign - Nannar / Christ Michael ?).
> The Third Being wishes for there to be a different Agenda and be in Control of It (Perhaps Marduk / Lucifer ?)...
That said - Their Battle of Armegeddon will be between the Kasim (The Remnant Annunaki) and the Useanesda (The Incomers from the Homeworld).
Now guess Who's inbetween 'em as this gets going ?
Yep - Us...
19. Oxy - Since You seem to love Riddles and deciphering them I have a Path to trickle down in relation to the U.N. if You're Interested and utlimately a Truth You can expose to the Membership - If You're up for It?
20. K - Well let Me set a premise...
Their Plan is that the U.N. will be the One World Government under One Titular Head following which One Worldwide Religion ?
Seriously - Find out which new Religion They are about to foist on Us and It will expose alot of what We and You have been talking about alot lately...
Please post what You find and Yes - I have gone down this Path but find it will be useful to go about it this way to begin a more concise discussion of the Issue...
21. Awesome and Their One World Religion will be based on the...
Urantia Book.
Their U.N. Theosophist was a student of Blavatsky's and Alice Bailey's Works. I'll have to find You His name...
Hes like the U.N.'s Archbishop by Position even though there isn't a Position for It yet or so They tell Us.
Ashtar Command - Gizeh Intelligence ring a bell ? Yep - All related...
22. orthodoxymoron wrote:
Are Ashtar Command and Gizeh Intelligence the same thing - or are they two factions of essentially the same group. Are they Annunaki, Masonic, Nazi, and Luciferian ?...
...I just want the problems to go away - and for everyone to be happy. Is that too much to ask?
No Ashtar Command and the Gizeh Intelligence are not the same thing but as You have said - They are two factions of essentially the same Group.
As I understand It - They are both Renegade Corps and are made up of Lyrans, Pleiadians, Sirians and such that do not fit into the Reptilian or Draconian Ranks...
The Kasim (Remnant Annunaki / S.a.A.M.i.) have Their own Command for the Earth Mission of which Marduk is the Titular Head and shares power with a Council of Twelve. The Useaneshda (Incoming Annunaki / S.a.A.M.i.) are under S.a.A.M.e. Governance with Nannar as the Titular Head now taking over from Anu (Finally)...
Yep - Theres alot of 'em and I'm only touching the surface here.
The above said - The Ashtar Command was not always compromised as It is now but was taken over in a Mutiny led by the Renegades. When that Mutiny occurred I am not sure but it was a long time ago to be sure. Aeons likely...
It will go back to Its rightful owner have no doubt of that. Just another Job in a long list of Jobs to do here before the Shift - LOL...
23. You're not the only One that would like to tell Them where to go...
You have It Oxy. We must be Sovereigns and Govern Ourselves...
But how can One Govern Themselves if They are not Soveriegn ?
Do You now see where I was going with this Idea of Sovereignty previously ?
The Namaste Constitutionally Responsible and Free Solar System is an absolute impossibility WITHOUT Us being Sovereigns thereby ensuring It...
Once We are Sovereign - The Model You've espoused will work very well.
So with that said - We must learn to be Sovereign and through that as We Govern Ourselves in Unity and Harmony - We will make the Namaste Constitutionally Responsible and Free Solar System - A fact...
24. What We must do is deserve a place at that Table by becoming Sovereign and this is in the ET's Words...
Once We are of enough understanding - That place at the Table is waiting for Us...
That said - Perhaps We now see why It is so important. If We don't become Sovereign as a Race on Our own by demanding and supporting the right kind of change not only in Our World - But in Ourselves - That place will not be forthcoming - And others will speak for Us by Proxy as has already been happening for Aeons...
If We want that place at the Table - We must change Our ways and become Sovereign or Its a no-go - Period...
So then one should say to Themselves at this Point - "Time to become Sovereign"...
25. You are right in that it requires responsibility for Ones actions but moreso It is that the Individual Who is Sovereign seeks the Highest and Best Good of All Concerned in All Things before deciding on a course of action.
In this respect it could be said that Christ Consciousness = Sovereignty - But that would be an oversimplification. What would better be said of this is that Sovereigns are Christ Conscious or hold the same understanding and responsibility as that.
These Individuals by Governing Themselves responsibly - Are viewed as Sovereigns because They will not make a decision in which there is a loser and a winner. All will Win in effect by decisions that are made by Sovereigns. Now when I say All will win - This means that All will get what They focus on as it relates to a decision made by a Sovereign.
Sovereigns will not violate the Free-will of another and are Integrated in that understanding. Sovereigns rule Themselves without the need of Rules or Governing by others as They know how to not Violate the Free-will of others not only by Their actions - But also by Their Mentalisms...
Technically - We give up Our Sovereignty when We take on the Birth Certificate but that is Sophistry by Fallen Entities and truly - Act as a Sovereign and thou wilt be One...
I will have to think on putting this into more of a Layman's understanding but I hope that the general thrust of My explanation here is adequate to begin the Discussion on It...
26. orthodoxymoron I had the same problem as you until I found this information about the laws of the cosmos and what we are supposed to be doing to be self-responsible and to understand what is a win-win situation and free will
http://www.synocracy.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=59&Itemid=57These are the kind of principles you are not going to be taught in school or church but they will align you with god source and the civilizations that are resonating with that frequency
It is not easy to practice these principles in this world but the more one endeavours to do so the easier it becomes
Aligning with god source has the added value that it changes the spin of the DNA too so it is a tool for ascension
There may be others that list this principles and explain how they work but I have not found them yet.
27. Don't get caught up on Win-Win semantics or front-load It too much. Launguage is so limited but what is meant by a Win-Win SITU with a Sovereign is that Negatives may be expressed if that is what those specific Individuals have focus'ed on.
For instance - If Dark Ones Focus on Power over Others - Sovereigns should then act to ensure that any Free-will that the Darks have violated - Receives release if that is what They seek whereas in relation to the Dark pushing the Program - They would then be left alone to Contol each other - Also getting what They have focus'ed on - IE - Where Their Minds are at...
You have it essentially - Become Fully responsible in order to Govern Oneself and One will then be Sovereign...
28. Win-win has to be the best possible solution for all involved, it is unlikely that will happen in this planet as a whole because there is a mix of consciousness but, we can apply it to our immediate environment
Lucifer can not compete with God Source because God Source as consciousness is so much bigger than Lucifer
God does not compete, it does not have to. When you have it all and can create it all why will you compete?
No one is asked to obey in a free will system, aligning with frequencies is what we do second by second. Some frequencies are enhancing and make us more whole others bring death to the body and eventually self-destruction
Rebellion to what? When we rebel we disown our own creations, all that is around us is the product of our present frequency and hence a perfect response from consciousness. The way of changing reality is by changing our frequency to the direction we desire to create. It is not easy to understand this but thoughts are things and if we direct our thoughts honestly towards what we want we are more likely to manifest it than not. It is not simple because there is a collective creation too but the more we focus the energy the more things change in our immediate environment. The way to get things fast is by being grateful because all creations are co-creations. We are the architects but the elementals are the builders and so it takes two to tango hence being grateful helps
Freedom is a state of mind, like joy or love. We feel free regardless of our outside circumstances and circumstances respond to our personal frequency too progressively
Self responsibility is a good choice that leads us into self-love and many other wonderous ponderings
The link that I mentioned contain very clear guidelines that can assist into learning how to co-create with the cosmos.
29. Behold, oh beloved Mother Earth, you shall no longer be in twain.
Your children by father sky have gathered to end your enduring pain.
To heal your body in matter, joined to the love in your mind.
A new family you have nourished to become caring, gentle and kind.
Can you hear the movement up high in the heavens above?
New trumpets are sounding, sending peace on the wings of a dove.
The angels of the dark have found their maidens of Light's delight;
in harmony together, they are entwining each other so tight.
What peace is this? As above, so below and a true Love!
Knowingly agreeable the netherworld has become and so suave.
Redeemed are the darkness and the light as the ancient prototype,
for all loves to follow, when the seeded fruits are ripe.
Oh come home to Eden, all you Lucifers~ sons of the stars.
All you Adams find your Luciferas, your Eves, end all the wars.
Where are you Mars? Venus~Aphrodite come forth, be seen!
Let your passions be two, in mind and in body, be ever so keen.
New worlds are born in the joining of two bodies in One.
God and Goddess together, just as every moon must have a sun.
Its the end of the mystery, the closing of a night so dark.
The dogs of Sirius are barking and announcing a new journey to embark.
30. Watch this very carefully Oxy. Infact watch it several times, maybe it will sink in. I keep offering you the Red Pill and you keep choosing the Blue one. I do not hate you, just the bull$hiT you stand for and allow to blind you to the Truth.
31. Barely,as its full of nothing but egotestical puritanical rantings from a completely ignorant fool, who would rather spend hours typing endless bathering bullshit out of his incessant mouth, and listening to his own"higher" ego then the True higher ego of the Divine.
No comment, but if one reads your bullshit enough,one gets an idea as to the degree and level of how deep your rabbit hole goes. Mostly the hole leads right up your XXX.
Oh bullshit oxy, you LOVE this XXXX, its all you talk about and point people in the direction of it!! Get over yourself already. You are an incredibly ignornant Xxxxx hiding behind a false puritanical skirt, who needs to grow some balls and accept his own self responsibility. Law of attraction baby, what you dish out will be in kind served back to you. Your so called sincere search is nothing but your own whining out loud,hoping for some small platitude from anyone taking the time to read your vomit.
32. Has someone got their panties in a bunch? Oh wait....it must be that "True higher ego of the divine" speaking".
Self Governance comes from knowing and understanding the Divine...............I'll bet that venom comes from one of those "aspects", or "archetypes"
Divine understand? not so certain about that........ but non the less, "enlightening" words Raven.
33. What do you want me to do Oxy? Unban her so the two of you can go at it? Her posting all that porn was over the top and she was insulting to another member... way insulting.
Some have expressed I leave what she posted. I saved a few posts in the admin section but all the porn I deleted along with some of the more offensive posts. Disagreement is fine but how one disagrees plays an important role here. Posting porn to make a point isn't it.
34. Rant is right! And you were right to expect just that. It's one thing to disagree, it's another thing all together to attack.
35. Oxy, you may not have been offended but I and others were. And I made it very clear earlier if something is posted (with respect to porn pics) if it offends me, I will delete it. I could have left some of the other pics up but was so pissed off by that time I got a bit carried away and deleted them.
I'm sure Raven has copies of the links somewhere.
36. Oxy, you are a gentleman. And a member of this family - not just a guest.
We can't allow the posting of porn and an ongoing relentless attack of another member to go without consequences.
Currently she is banned for 100 days. The other admins and I will discuss this as it is important to include others input. This forum belong to the members. They can share their opinions as well.
37. I sense a storm brewing in this thread. Not because of anything that Mercuriel or ODM has posted. But once that Thuban ooze seeps into any place, nothing good comes from it. I've seen the exchanges on that one.
Fact of the matter is that once you do the work within, you will embrace your sovereignty and won't need a philosophy that originated outside of yourself. So for someone to say to go within and still be preaching from a Thuban pedestal is just simply hypocritical.
One shoe doesn't fit all here. Much of it depends on the individual. To take a paint brush and consider everyone to be the same is an insane perspective. If you have to be guided by a philosophy so you can function, means you have already been compromised.
And if you quote Jesus and never even met him, just goes to show you how really connected you are. Operating from a second hand perspective is second hand no matter how you slice it.
And if I had to choose between ODM's constitution and the Thubans rhetoric, I would go with ODMs' and would work my arce off to make it happen. At least he embraces and invites everyone to the table. Instead of you being served up at a Thuban table.
I throw caution to the wind at this moment. And whoever is listening in the background, just know I am still breathing and my memory is like an elephant. The exchange will not go in your favor this time around. This is not a threat but a promise. Thanks for the convincing exchange you provided last time. You will reap the wrath that you have sown and I will gladly deliver it.
38. I agree with Brook on this one Oxy. Everybody evolves. It just depends where they are on the ladder. You're the man standing there reaching down offering hand to those nearby which is a good thing. But those who turn their back on god end up creating distance of their own making between the Divine and the hell realms. The hell realms are a place of darkness because these souls have taken themselves further into the hinderlands away from the light. Eventually, they too, according to Hindu philosophy - will continue to reincarnate until they move back into the light and are reabsorbed into source (singularity).
What gives me hope is that the galactic wave... this major increase in cosmic gamma rays will infuse all on the planet and alter DNA and consciousness. It is an evolutionary step toward the light. And at that moment, individuals will have the opportunity to choose which path they will move towards.. to choose with consciousness. Those who cannot forgive themselves and are ashamed will sink. Those who seek singularity will rise. And all continue to evolve.
39. ahhh
Listening to Latin Masses nourishes the soul.
40. I can see where you do miss Raven and am sorry about the action taken yet had to draw the line somewhere and porn is over the top for this forum. So is personally attacking another member. She is quite intelligent and was on a real roll with you and was challenging your constructs which wasn't a bad thing... yet the way it was done wasn't such a good thing either.
I do think she may be on Tony's forum but don't have the link. I suspect she is angry at being blocked as no one who has that happen is too thrilled about it.
I agree with what you posted here:
Nothing short of a complete reformation of all churches and governments - to become completely in harmony with the concept of RESPONSIBILITY - will result in the last, great, true renaissance which will bring peace to the world, and to the solar system
This is very astute.
As you tend to post a lot of content it takes a bit to go through all of it to respond. So I'll keep this part short for now.
41. ......hmm
When Krisna’s friend Arjuna asked the same questions, Krisna said there is only way to know by meditation. The Maya queen (illusion) uses matter to condition us.
Arjuna said ‘I have so many thoughts and questions…’ Krisna said - Yes, to stop your thoughts is as hard as to stop the wind, but only when you conquer your mind, you are free of thoughts you will free yourself to understand how matter and mind conditions us.
Tagore said – if we can only think unconditionally with any ever made reference to any knowledge….
42. Something like this:
MISSION
This site is devoted to the cause of non-interventionism and is read by libertarians, pacifists, leftists, "greens," and independents alike, as well as many on the Right who agree with our opposition to imperialism. Our initial project was to fight against intervention in the Balkans under the Clinton presidency. We applied the same principles to Clinton's campaigns in Haiti and Kosovo and bombings of Sudan and Afghanistan. Our politics are libertarian: our opposition to war is rooted in Randolph Bourne's concept that "War is the health of the State." With every war, America has made a "great leap" into statism, and as Bourne emphasized, "it is during war that one best understands the nature of that institution [the State]." At its core, that nature includes an ever increasing threat to individual liberty and the centralization of political power.
Antiwar.com is one project of our parent foundation, the Randolph Bourne Institute. It is a program that provides a sounding board of interest to all who are concerned about U.S. foreign policy and its implications.
In 1952, Garet Garrett, one of the last of the Old Right "isolationists," said it well:
"Between government in the republican meaning, that is, Constitutional, representative, limited government, on the one hand, and Empire on the other hand, there is mortal enmity. Either one must forbid the other or one will destroy the other."
This is the perception that informs our activism and inspires our dedication. Non-interventionism abroad is a corollary to non-interventionism at home. Randolph Bourne echoed this sentiment: "We cannot crusade against war without implicitly crusading against the State." Since opposition to war is at the heart of our philosophy, and single-issue politics is the only avenue open to us, Antiwar.com embodies the politics of the possible.
Our dedication to libertarian principles, inspired in large part by the works and example of the late Murray N. Rothbard, is reflected on this site. While openly acknowledging that we have an agenda, the editors take seriously our purely journalistic mission, which is to get past the media filters and reveal the truth about America's foreign policy. Citing a wide variety of sources without fear or favor, and presenting our own views in the regular columns of various contributors, we clearly differentiate between fact and opinion, and let our readers know which is which.
The pressing need for "citizen experts" is the reason we set up Antiwar.com. In this process, the site evolved very quickly into an online magazine and research tool designed to keep the American people and the world informed about the overseas plans of the American government. The history of our site and of American foreign policy demonstrates the demand for such experts.
The founders of Antiwar.com were active in the Libertarian Party during the 1970s; in 1983, we founded the Libertarian Republican Organizing Committee to work as a libertarian caucus within the GOP. Today, we are seeking to challenge the traditional politics of "Left" and "Right." At present, none of the existing parties or activist groups offer an effective vehicle for principled libertarian politics. Yet even in the absence of a party of liberty, we cannot abstain from the struggle. We strive to lead the non-interventionist cause and the peace movements that many respected institutions have forgotten.
Forged in the experience of the first Balkan war, Antiwar.com has become the Internet newspaper of record for a growing international movement, the central locus of opposition to a new imperialism that masks its ambitions in the rhetoric of "human rights," "humanitarianism," "freedom from terror," and "global democracy." The totalitarian liberals and social democrats of the West have unilaterally and arrogantly abolished national sovereignty and openly seek to overthrow all who would oppose their bid for global hegemony. They have made enemies of the patriots of all countries, and it is time for those enemies to unite – or perish alone.
Antiwar.com represents the truly pro-America side of the foreign policy debate. With our focus on a less centralized government and freedom at home, we consider ourselves the real American patriots. "America first!" regards the traditions of a republican government and non-interventionism as paramount to freedom – a concept that helped forge the foundation of this nation.
THE FUTURE
Antiwar.com is already fighting the next information war: we are dedicated to the proposition that war hawks and our leaders are not going to be allowed to get away with it unopposed and unchallenged. The War Party is well-organized, well-financed, and very focused. They know what they want: a renewal of the Cold War, increased military spending, and a globalist mission that would project American power from the Middle East to the Korean peninsula and all points in between. And they know how to get it: mobilizing special interest groups and key corporate allies in a propaganda war designed to win the hearts if not the minds of the American people. The antiwar forces, on the other hand, are not so well-positioned. Everyone is for peace, in theory at least, but there is no one group of Americans especially disposed to work for it, outside of small religious groups such as the Quakers and the Catholic Worker movement.
Lacking a centrally coordinated leadership, without financial resources of any significance, and incredibly diverse, the organized opposition to the first Balkan war was unfocused and of limited effectiveness. Currently, the antiwar movement against a war on Iraq is considered anti-American and left-wing. However, we are changing this perception by leading the cause of the patriotic peace movement, which understands the true costs of war. Unfortunately, the organizations pushing for actions in Afghanistan, Iraq, and other areas around the world are stronger and better focused. Antiwar.com has become an integral part of the movement against these groups and for peace by disseminating accurate news and commentary.
Antiwar.com is dedicated to building an awareness of the globalist and interventionist forces that would enslave us all in a New World Order on which the sun never sets. But we can't do it without you. Tell your friends about Antiwar.com, and also help us do our job by bringing items to our attention. We are always looking for material, and we welcome your suggestions, whether of links or in the form of original articles submitted to the editors.
http://antiwar.com/who.php 43. I have been reading your posts for a couple of years now, from AV1 to The Mists.
Most of your posts have been about governance... Who is in control? Who do want in control? What type of control is best?
Honestly, though, the overriding thought that I always have is that I do not want to be governed. Period.
To me, choosing which type of government I want to replace the current governments is akin to choosing which new type of poison I want added to my drinking water as a replacement for the currently present poisons.
Govern - To take control. Rule. Hold in check.
A government of any type will create a power struggle. Whenever there is a hierarchical system, there will be those who wish to be at the top of the pyramid...who will suppress and trample others to reach the top. In my opinion, anything resembling government as we know it will produce the same results as our current governments are producing. The basic structure of "The Church" is the same as that of the government...
The only solution to our problems that I can propose, is to treat each other with kindness and compassion. We must truly be filled with love for ourselves, our neighbors, our planet, our solar system, etc. I believe that love IS the solution. Be filled with love, and everything else will fall into place.
44. This is an Awesome Video. Please watch It as It will tie into the Issues You and I have been discussing lately.
Video > The Secret behind Secret Societies
That said - As an aside to providing a more detailed answer to You about Lucifer choosing / not choosing Annihilation - I will have to Post that answer to You on Tuesday.
The reason being that as I sat at home last night going over what I was going to detail in displaying this - I realized that I needed to make up some Diagrams and such as visual aids to go along with the display of that Info. As I am @ Work today and tomorrow - I will have to create them at Home. The PCs here don't really have any good Imaging Programs to use for that purpose.
Now as I'm doing 12 Hour Shifts - When I get Home I don't have alot of time to do much of anything before I have to go to Bed for the next day's Work - So - If You would be so gracious as to allow Me to reply to the Lucifer Issue once I'm off on Tuesday - I'd appreciate It greatly.
45. Its good to know that You've seen the Video I mentioned and Linked. It will help greatly in the explanation to follow.
46. 105 Powers Creator has...
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In dissection of that ;
> 33 Degrees of the Scottish Rite...
> The Lesser Book of Solomon - The Legemeton - Mentions the 72 Ineffable Names of God - Or more succinctly - The Fallen 72 Powers and Principalities that Solomon called on in His Time...
Now - 33 + 72 = 105 > The Powers of Creator...
Its simply a matter of Us believing through Knowing how It comes about - That We are Indeed on the 105th Floor having forgotten We're Creator trying to remember Who We really are.
That being Our Origins and Reason for being in Matter in the first place...
Pater = Father
Mater = Mother
Alma Mater = All - My Mother...
47. We are currently in Containers (Bodys) They have seriously edited to be what They desire and yet still We thrive...
Spirit having a Body Holmes and as They had a part in that Body and have Warred to Control It - That is Their connection - Nothing more and when You see how Its You as an Aspect of Spirit in this Body - Not a Body having Spirit - The Container is simply that.
We are not the Container - It merely contains Us as We chose It coming in and breaking that Bond through Knowing It's true Origins - Moves One beyond Their Control or any Other's for that mater.
More on this tomorrow...
48. My Dear Brother,
Have no worry that Your Posts seem to fall on Deaf Ears. They do not. I mean look at the Views...
Over 2000...
Not many answer Me either but it bothers Me not.
You ask questions that MANY have no idea how to answer. They're going through these same Issues Themselves about what to think through coming into Gnosis and so I prefer to think of it this way.
We are Vibration. Our Questions and Utterances into the Reality are also Vibrations. Like Ripples in a Pool there will be an answering Ripple from every Originating One. That You ask is immensely important so never stop. We think therefore We are so to speak and so if We stop thinking - Will We still be ?
In the current Earth / Terran Drama - We are in the Hybrid Container - Part Reptilian / Part Mammalian - Some being 30/70 - And some being 70/30 but that is a lesser understanding if We stop there. That stated though - They are family of a sort - Grandparents if You will in terms of Species developement and We have through those Genetics - The same potential to Evolve as They have. Hence Their attempts at Edits over time. Another question at this point would be - Who created Them before They created Us as the Hybrid ? Eh ?
The Body / Avatar - In All Instances - Is the Vehicle and the case here is that We're driving on Roads They've set before Us. Our Task here is to take Our Vehicle off road if You will and drive that Vehicle without Their Regulations interferring in the Experience.
Consciousness comes to Planets by way of "Life Carriers" for lack of a better Name. They place "Consciousness Anchors" and Awareness then gathers in the Magnetospere of said Planet. These "Anchors" are not placed however until there are Vehicles on said Planets that have evolved enough so as to be Containers for Them.
Lake Vostok - Antartica
"Early research into Lake Vostok indicated that the body of water had a depth of 2,000 feet—far deeper than any of the Great Lakes and half as deep as Asia’s Lake Baikal (5,000 feet)—a length of 300 miles and a width of 50 miles. Contrary to what was initially believed, the lake received filtered light. Further investigations also detected the existence of geothermal sources which warmed the lake to an astonishing 50 degrees Fahrenheit, with “hot spots” of up to 65 degrees. Given these new discoveries regarding solar radiation and temperature, scientists suggested the possibility that the lake’s encapsulated atmosphere purified itself through a complex interaction with water, and that the chances for vegetable life forms were very good.
Research conducted by Russian scientist Ian Toskovoi—who vanished near the Vostok station in March 2000—on “geothermal upboiling” also hinted at an alternative means of purification and replenishment for the subterranean lake’s atmosphere. Toskovoi’s geothermal upboils were located in the so-called “ice dunes,” which appear to be formed by thousands of bubbles of air measuring between several feet to several hundred feet.
However, the most intriguing news coming out of Antarctica had to do with the extremely powerful “magnetic anomaly” located in the northern end of the lake’s coast: a discovery which would give rise to a number of conjectures and would be compared with the fictional TMA-1 (Tycho Magnetic Anomaly-1) in the movie 2001: A Space Odyssey.
The electronic newspaper Antarctic Sun (
www.polar.org), which soon became the main source of information on the Lake Vostok magnetic anomaly, stated that during the initial flight of the SOAR (Support Office for Aero-physical Research), aimed at conducting magnetic resonance imaging over the area, the magnetometer recorded an increase of 1,000 nanoteslas beyond the 60,000 nanoteslas which characterized the Vostok Station. Scientists had expected to find magnetic anomalies in the range of 500 to 600 nanoteslas in areas where volcanic material could be located, but the ranges encountered were simply startling. “This anomaly is so large that it cannot be the product of a daily change in the magnetic field,” stated Michael Studinger, one of the researchers involved in the mapping endeavor.
Also significant was the sheer size of the anomaly: 65 by 46 square miles. According to the mission’s geological team, the anomaly’s size and severity pointed to the fact that geological changes had taken place under the lake, suggesting the possibility that it was a place where “the earth’s crust was thinner.”
Ellesmere Island - Northern Canada
"A 1965 paper presented by Canadian geophysicist John M. DeLaurier of the Dominion of Canada Observatory. According to this scientist, there was something strange going on beneath the ground at Ellesmere Island, a barren location mostly covered by glacial icecap and roamed by herds of caribou and musk oxen.
Professor DeLaurier’s paper discussed the existence of a structure so vast that it defied imagination—a quasi-cylindrical loaf of an object measuring 65 miles long by 65 miles thick at a staggering depth of 80 miles. The huge structure had been detected by seismic equipment located at Alert, one of the U.S.-Canadian Distant Early Warning (DEW) stations in the Arctic wilderness. Studies showed that the object, which straddled the earth’s mantle and crust, was the source of some sort of disturbance—similar to the situation encountered at Lake Vostok 30-odd years later—affecting the magnetic field at the Alert facility and “inducing a strong flow of electricity.”
Official sources have not provided much additional information regarding the mysterious Antarctic lake, and the controversy rages on across the Internet, while hundreds of different opinions clash over the nature of the goings-on at this remote location.
In early March 2001, a U.S. channeler known as Lady Kadjina replied to a series of questions regarding the mystery of Lake Vostok. Regarding the nature of the magnetic anomaly, she declared that long before the Antarctic became icebound, the continent had been used as a landing site by extraterrestrials. The ever-benevolent aliens built what we would call an observatory, explained the channeler, equipped with a signalling device capable of broadcasting coded messages. More and more such observatories would be discovered in coming months, and Earth governments would try to seize them. Lady Kadjina added that the observatory contained vast crystals which put forth a certain kind of magnetism, which had been employed as a guidance system so that large spaceships could land at that location.
Research Lake Vostok (Magnetic Anomaly under Ice) as well as Ellesmere Island (Magnetic Anomaly). In one Word - Monoliths of Immense size...
49. Oh I agree but I would offer up this in reply. I surely cannot make anyone believe any Video - Picture - Or Audio Sample but I would say that what the attempt is not to have any One believe anything sacrosanctly - But rather to expand another's Consiousness by showing the possiblilities that are out there.
In most instances - I post Pictures to promote the thought about them - Not to say - This is that or that is this - And I'm sure in many instances You do too. That said though - Pictures I have posted have turned out to be used by Shows such as the History Channel's "Thats Impossible" - And "Ancient Aliens" as well. Why do I have 'em. To be Honest - Many I have found while lurking the lonely halls of the Net while the World Sleeps and others I've been sent by those I've come to Trust as wanting to get the Info out.
That said - As You are going through Our Astronauts and what They have said about this Issue or Issues related - You must be aware that ALOT of Them Craters up there do not fit the Shape that They should have for the Impacts that are visually displayed at Ground Level. I mean some of Them Craters seem to suggest that They're Holes and not Craters using various Imaging Filters.
So - If We see a Moon like Phobos to be something other than a Moon - The Logical next thought is that We must be dealing with at least a Level 2 Civilization in terms of It's Galactic capabilities...
IE - Battlestars and or Planetoid sized Ships for lake of a better descriptor.
Seen the Sun lately LOL...
and 
BEWARE OF THE COMPLETELY IGNORANT PIOUS-ZOMBIE 
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Namaste and Have a Nice Day 
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