Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Solar System

Thank-you Carol. What if it turns out that Jesus was just as much of a rebel as Lucifer - only in a different way? Might they have had a common enemy in the beginning - but then clashed regarding how to manage paradise? Might they become friends in the end? Damned if I know. I'm more confused than you can possibly imagine. I continue to see this whole fiasco as being incomprehensibly insane. At what point did things go very wrong - or have things ever really been right? The muzzle-order seems to militate against any positive outcome for this mess. Everything important is classified - and common sense is a threat to national security. Or so it seems. If you are easily offended, don't watch this! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07dsI6kZjK0

Where do I go from here? I really just want things to make sense, and become peaceful and happy. There is so much that is right with the world - and so much that is so very wrong. I like the concepts of positive reinforcement and historical continuity. I once again invite you to read through this entire thread - and watch the links. I mostly point to the work of other people. I mostly wish to discuss various subjects, in the context of this thread. This continues to be an experiment, and a work in progress. One Nation Under Construction - and I'm not referring to the New World Order. I am a firm believer in Kaizen, or Continual Improvement. Kaizen and Namaste are two very fine exotic words. I'm thinking mostly in broad solar system management terms - rather than the micro-management of individual countries and religions. Superpatriotic Totalitarianism and Cultural Imperialism is NOT what I have in mind. So, I guess I'll just keep reviewing this thread (and the threads of others) and keep researching a wide variety of sources. I really don't wish to beg, scold, or b!+ch! I like the idea of reviewing the solar system, and occasionally asking questions, making suggestions - and being taken seriously, rather than being ignored. I'm still not sure what the proper balance-point is in all of this. I will continue to study the Four Gospels and the U.S. Constitution - while listening to Latin Masses and Classical Sacred Music. Try it. You'll Like It. This is only the beginning. Don't be frightened. I mean no harm. I am of peace. Always. Namaste.

ARCHANGELS + HYBRIDIZATION + REINCARNATION = GODS AND GODDESSES?? I just listen to as many people as possible - and TRY to connect the dots. I'm also trying to think in terms of a male version of Anna - who is not creepy, corrupt, or cruel - with all of the positives, and none of the negatives. Consider the following carefully:

NIBIRUAN / SUMERIAN GODS = HINDU GODS = GREEK GODS AND SOME VATICAN, BUDDHIST, JEWISH AND SOUTH AMERICAN GODS AS WELL !!!

SEKHMET = DURGA = ARTEMIS = MUT = ATHENA = WHITE JAGUAR LADY = WHITE BUFFALO CALF WOMAN = VAISHNO DEVI

ALCYONE = SATYANARAYANA = APOLLO = PTAH = VISHNU = RAMA
AMUN RA = KRISHNA

ANAT = ERESHKIGAL = KALI = BLACK MADONNA = BLACK TARA

ASTARTE = PARVATI = WHITE TARA = MADONNA = SHEKINAH = UMA = NAMMA
MAIA = SATI = DAKSHAYANI = DAMKINA = GODDESS OF THE MOUNTAINS

ENKI = SHIVA = HOLY SPIRIT = ZEUS = CHAKRASAMVARA = AVALOKITESHWARA = CHENREZIG = LUCIFER = EA = ADONAI = HADAD = BA'AL = RUDRA = KAAL BHAIRAVA

AN = ANU = PARA BRAHMA = YAHVEH = ALLAH

THE GREAT RA = AMEN RA = PRAKASH BRAHMA = HIGHER ASPECT OF YAHVEH = FATHER OF THE GODS

ANSAR = ABZU = ABBA = APSU = KASHYAPA = ADITYA = SURYA = SUN GOD = SHAMASH = DUAS PITA = SATYAVAT MANU = SWAYAMBHU = VYWAMUS

DHARMA DEV = YAMA

INDRA = PAN = VAJRAPANI

GAIA = ADITI = BHU = BHOOMI DEVI = KOUMUDHI = KAMADHENU = NINHURSAG = KI = URAS = EARTH GODDESS

ENLIL = GARBHODAKASAYANI = JEHOVAH

NINLIL = LAKSHMI = GODDESS OF GRAIN

MOON GOD = CHANDRA DEV = NANNA

INANNA = LILITH = SELENE = MOHINI

DUMUZI = ADAMU = ADAM = DAMU

EVE = KHEBA = NINTI

NERGAL = NARAKASURA

TIAMAT = TARAKA

TYPHON = PULOMAN

THOTH = GANESHA = HERMES

MARDUK = MURUGAN = KARTHIKEYA = NIMROD = MARS

HORUS = OSIRIUS = SANAT KUMARA = EROS = DIONYSUS = ANCIENT OF DAYS = TAMMUZ = MIN = KAMDEV = PRADYUMNA

ISIS = MARY = MARIAMMA = KOUMARI = VENUS = APHRODITE = ISHTAR = SEMIRAMIS = HATHOR = MAYAVATI = KANYAKUMARI = TRIPURA SUNDARI = RATI = 16 YEAR OLD GODDESS

JESUS = SANANDA KUMARA

MARY MAGDALENE = LADY NADA

HADES = SHANI = SATAN = WRATHFUL TIBETAN DEITY

7 ARCHANGELS = 7 SAPTARISHIS = COUNCIL OF SEVEN

ATLAS = HIMAVAN = DAKSHA = EL

PLEIONE = MENAKA

APEP = KALASURA

7 PLAIEDES' SISTERS = 7 KRITTIKAS = 7 SAPTA MATRIKAS

PARASURAM = GILGAMESH; NOAH = VIVASVAT MANU; NOAH'S ARC = MALAYAN HILLS.

WILD COW GODDESS = NINSUN = NININSINA = RENUKA

HUMBABA = TRISHANKU = KALMASHAPADA

SARASWATI = SESHAT

HERACLES = HERCULES = ARJUNA

ENOCH = METATRON

HERA = INDRANI

AURORA = USHA

EOS = SAVITA

VARUNA = POSEIDON

MITHRA = ZOROASTRA

TVASTRI = HAPHAESTOS = BUNENE

HOLY GRAIL = AMRITAM = SOMA = LIFE ELIXIR = NECTAR OF IMMORTALITY

THE LIST IS ENDLESS!

THE NIBIRUAN GODS ( NIBIRU = NEBADON = VULCAN = PLANET X = WORMWOOD FROM SIRIUS B ) HAD THEIR BASES EVERYWHERE.

ALL THE RELIGIONS HAVE THE SAME SOURCE !
( BIBLE -> BY-BAL -> BY BA'AL( ENKI))
( QURAN -> QUR-AN / ANU )

MANY OF THE COMPARED CHARACTERS/ INCIDENTS MIGHT HAVE HAPPENED AT ONE PLACE AND THEN IMPLANTED INTO ANOTHER CULTURE FOR THEIR BENEFIT.

SOURCE :
http://www.galacticroundtable.com/fo...ods-hindu-gods


TAMMUZ, SEMIRAMIS, AND NIMROD?? THE ORIGINAL TRINITY? SON, HOLY SPIRIT, AND FATHER??
1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyKy8_sF4xY 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6eTbhHE0jM&playnext=1&list=PL57CD22A624DDD6B3 3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6AOvStZS64


SEMIRAMIS AND TAMMUZ?? ISIS AND HORUS??



SEMIRAMIS, TAMMUZ, AND NIMROD??

I love the art, architecture, and music of the Roman Catholic Church - including the Latin Mass. I do, however, have serious issues with the confessional, penetential, and sacrificial aspects. I'm also not too keen on crucifixes. I love to read the Teachings of Jesus and the U.S. Constitution, while listening to Latin Masses. I'm really seeking a Spiritual and Political Switzerland. And don't forget to study Egyptology along with your Christology! http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1872714663680800365#docid=7583090662971128459 Here is an old 1941 video of a Latin Mass (explained by Archbishop Fulton Sheen). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6AOvStZS64 I have a love/hate relationship with the Roman Catholic Church. In some ways, I am more Catholic than most Catholics. In some ways, I am more Protestant than most Protestants. In some ways, I am more critical of religion (old and new age) than most Atheists or Agnostics. This is why I call myself 'orthodoxymoron'. Does anyone see where I'm coming from, and where I'm going with this thread? You really have to absorb the thread, as a whole, to understand my mumbling in the darkness. Don't crucify me, based upon a couple of posts or pictures.



Traditional Latin Mass Explained: The theology of the Catholic Faith is expressed in the rich symbolism of the extraordinary form of the Roman rite, commonly known as the Traditional Latin Mass.

Orientation of the Priest and People: Everyone—priest and people—faces East towards the Lord. This orientation was used at the Last Supper and by the early Christians, and it continues to be used at the Traditional Mass.

This common direction of prayer should not be viewed as the priest having his "back to the people"; rather, this eastward orientation fully expresses the meaning of the Mass—the priest leads the faithful towards the eternal goal of the Heavenly City, and he offers the Sacrifice that is Christ, to God, facing God. For Catholic tradition sees Christ as coming from the East, the direction of the rising sun.

This orientation also makes the priests' personality fade away. He becomes a servant to the sacred act that he performs, controlled by the ancient rubrics.

Ceremonies of the Traditional Mass: Lex orandi, lex credendi: "Law of prayer is the law of belief." This ancient statement exhorts us to pray as we believe, and it explains in simple terms how to worship God.

Incensation of the Altar: For example, in the Classical Liturgy, constant reference is made to the Holy Trinity. But in addition to the vocal part of prayer, the physical part of prayer is expressed through the common use of gestures in groups of three's: three "Domine, non sum dignus" ("Lord, I am not worthy"), three rings of the bells during the consecration, three double swings of the censor, and more. Other gestures in groups of five, such as five signs of the Cross made over the Host and Chalice, represent the five wounds of Christ.

During the Canon, the priest consecrates bread and wine into the Body and Blood of Christ. This summit of the Mass is recited silently by the priest, as God descends upon the earth in silence. Then-Cardinal Ratzinger (now Pope Benedict XVI) calls this "silence with content." This silence should not be viewed as "shutting the faithful out of the liturgy." On the contrary, prayer needs silence, which demonstrates respect for Christ. Popes such as St. Pius X have encouraged the faithful to actively take part by "Praying the Mass" with priest, which is accomplished through the use of a hand missal.

In Solemn Masses, incense is used, which demonstrates respect for the Holy Sacrifice of Mass. Also at Solemn Masses, three ministers are present, mirroring the Trinity: a priest, a deacon, and a sub-deacon.

Language and Catholic Identity: Latin is the maternal language of the Roman Catholic Church. Most important documents are issued in Latin. The Latin language was introduced into the Mass very early. For a brief period before that, Greek was used, and this Greek is preserved in the Kyrie.

While the Eastern Catholic Churches use their own sacred languages, for the greatest number of Catholics, Latin is the universal language of the Liturgy. Thus, the unity of prayer and faith has been preserved over all national differences for centuries.

Latin has also inspired literature and Gregorian chant, and is the language of the Second Vatican Council.

Sacred Music and Gregorian Chant: Sacred music brings the Liturgy to life. The music of the Traditional Latin Mass is timeless. It comes to us from ancient times in the form of chant and, more recently, from great composers such as Bach and Mozart.

As the Second Vatican Council said, "The Church acknowledges Gregorian chant as specially suited to the Roman liturgy: therefore, . . . it should be given pride of place in liturgical services." This is certainly so in the Classical Mass. Gregorian chant comes to us from the Jewish traditions that existed before the time of Christ. Pope St. Gregory the Great cultivated the art. During medival times, chant became ever more beautiful while keeping true to its tradition.

Musical Elements of Mass: The music of Mass can be separated into two categories: propers (the parts that change) and the ordinary (the parts that don't change).

The proper music includes the Introit, Gradual, Tract or Alleluia, and Communion Verse. The text of these usually comes from the Scriptures, and are particular for each Mass.

The ordinary music includes the Gloria, Credo, Sanctus, and Agnus Dei. The text of these pieces do not change, but the music that they are sung to can. The church has put together a collection of seventeen "Masses" that may be used for various feasts. For example, Mass IX is often used for feasts of the Blessed Virgin Mary, and is particularly joyful. Others include Mass VIII, which is popular for Sundays, and Mass XI, which has a more monastic character.

Vestments and their Significance: The vestments worn by the priest and ministers at Mass are reminiscent of those worn by the early Christians, and each article of clothing has a particular meaning.

Vesting before Holy Mass: The amice represents the hood of humility. It is worn around the back of the shoulders, but when putting it on, the priest rests it on the top of his head and says a prayer.

The alb is put on next. It symbolizes purity. Albis in Latin means "white."

The stole—the sign of the priestly office—is worn over the shoulders. A cincture is worn. The maniple (which looks like a minature stole) is worn over the left arm and is symbolic of the weight that the priest bears in offering the Sacrifice.

Finally, the chasuble—the outer vestment—covers the priest. The color of this vestment, the stole, and maniple are reminiscent of the feast: gold or white on feast days, red for memorials of martyrs, violet on penititial days, black for funerals, rose on Gaudete and Laetare Sundays, and green for days without a particular commemoration; also blue vestments according to local custom, which is universally spreading.

References:
Monsignor Klaus Gamber, The Reform of the Roman Liturgy, (Roman Catholic Books), 139.
Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, Spirit of the Liturgy, (Ignatius Press). For excerpt, see http://www.ignatiusinsight.com/features2006/ratzinger_sotlmusic_jun06.asp.
Father Joseph Fessio, SJ, "The Mass of Vatican II," IgnatiusInsight.com, www.ignatiusinsight.com/features2005/fessio_massv2_1_jan05.asp.



THE CANON OF THE MASS (Latin and English) http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/lmass/ord.htm

Te ígitur, clementíssime Pater, per Jesum Christum Fílium tuum Dóminum nostrum súpplices rogámus ac pétimus (osculatur altare) uti accépta hábeas, et benedícas (jungit manus, deinde signat ter super oblata), hæc dona, hæc múnera, hæc sancta sacrifícia illibáta (extensis manibus prosequitur): in primis quæ tibi offérimus pro Ecclésia tua sancta cathólica: quam pacificáre, custodíre, adunáre, et régere dignéris toto orbe terrárum, una cum famulo tuo Papa nostro N. et Antístite nostro N. et ómnibus orthodóxis, atque cathólicæ et apostólicæ fídei cultóribus.

Wherefore, O most merciful Father, we humbly pray and beseech thee, through Jesus Christ thy Son, our Lord (he kisses the altar), that thou p. 465 wouldst vouchsafe to receive and bless (he joins his hands together, and then makes the sign of the cross thrice over the offerings) these gifts, these offerings, this holy and unblemished sacrifice (he extends his hands and continues), which in the first place we offer thee for thy holy Catholic Church, that it may please thee to grant her peace: as also to protect, unite, and govern her throughout the world, together with thy servant N., our Pope N., our bishop, as also all orthodox believers who keep the catholic and apostolic faith.
The Commemoration for the living.

Meménto, Dómine, famulórum famularúmque tuárum N. et N.

Be mindful, O Lord, of thy servants and handmaids, N. and N.

He joins his hands, prays a little while for those he wishes to pray for, then with his hands stretched out he continues:

Et ómnium circumstántium, quorum tibi fides cógnita est, et nota devótio: pro quibus tibi offérimus, vel qui tibi ófferunt hoc sacrifícium laudis, pro se, suísque ómnibus, pro redemptióne animárum suárum, pro spe salútis et incolumitátis suæ; tibíque reddunt vota sua ætérno Deo, vivo et vero.

And of all here present, whose faith and devotion are known unto thee; for whom we offer, or who offer up to thee, this sacrifice of praise for themselves and theirs, for the redeeming of their souls, for the hope of their safety and salvation, and who pay their vows to thee, the eternal, living, and true God.

Infra actionem.

Communicántes, et memóriam venerántes, in primis gloriósæ semper Vírginis Maríæ, genitrícis Dei et Dómini nostri Jesu Christi: sed et beatórum Apostolórum ac Mártyrum tuórum, Petri et Pauli, Andréæ, Jacóbi, Joánnis, Thomæ, Jacóbi, Philíppi, Bartholomæi, Matthæi, Simónis et Thaddæi, Cleti, Cleméntis, Xysti, Cornélii, Cypriáni, Lauréntii, Chrysógoni, Joánnis et Pauli, Cosmæ et Damiáni et ómnium sanctórum tuórum: quorum méritis precibúsque concédas, ut in ómnibus protectiónis tuæ muniámur auxílio. (Jungit manus.) Per eúmdem Christum Dóminum nostrum. Amen.

Within the action.

Communicating, and reverencing the memory first of the glorious Mary, ever a virgin, Mother of our God and Lord Jesus Christ; likewise of thy blessed apostles and martyrs, Peter and Paul, Andrew, James, John, Thomas, James, Philip, Bartholomew, p. 466 Matthew, Simon and Thaddeus; of Linus, Cletus, Clement, Xystus, Cornelius, Cyprian, Lawrence, Chrysogonus, john and Paul, Cosmas and Damian, and of all thy saints; by whose merits and prayers grant that in all things we may be guarded by thy protecting help. (He joins his hands together.) Through the same Christ our Lord. Amen.

With his hands spread over the offerings, he says:

Hanc ígitur oblatiónem servitútis nostræ, sed et cunctæ famíliæ tuæ, quæsumus Dómine, ut placátus accípias, diésque nostros in tua pace dispónas, atque ab ætérna damnatióne nos éripi, et in electórum tuórum júbeas grege numerári. (Jungit manus.) Per Christum Dóminum nostrum. Amen.

Quam oblatiónem tu, Deus, in ómnibus, quæsumus,

We therefore beseech thee, O Lord, to be appeased, and to receive this offering of our bounden duty, as also of thy whole household; order our days in thy peace; grant that we be rescued from eternal damnation and counted within the fold of thine elect. (He joins his hands together.) Through Christ our Lord. Amen.

Which offering do thou, O God, vouchsafe in all things.

He makes the sign of the cross three times over the offerings.

benedíctam, adscríptam, ratam, rationábilem, acceptabilémque fácere dignéris:

...to bless , consecrate , approve , make reasonable and acceptable:

He makes the sign of the cross once over the host and once over the chalice.

ut nobis Corpus et Sanguis fiat dilectíssimi Fílii tui Dómini nostri Jesu Christi.

Qui prídie quam paterétur (accipit hostiam), accépit panem in sanctas ac venerábiles manus suas (elevat oculos ad cœlum), et elevátis óculis in cœlum, ad te Deum Patrem suum omnipoténtem, tibi grátias agens,

...that it may become for us the Body and Blood of thy most beloved Son our Lord Jesus Christ.

Who the day before he suffered took bread (he takes the host) into his holy and venerable hands (he raises p. 467 his eyes to heaven), and with his eyes lifted up to heaven, unto thee, God, his almighty Father, giving thanks to thee,

He makes the sign of the cross over the host.

benedíxit, fregit, dedítque discípulis suis, dicens: Accípite, et manducáte ex hoc omnes.

...he blessed , brake, and gave to his disciples, saying: Take and eat ye all of this,

Holding the host between the first fingers and thumbs of both hands, he says the words of consecration, silently with clearness and attention, over the host, and at the same time over all the other hosts, if several are to be consecrated.

Hoc est enim Corpus meum.

For this is my Body.

As soon as the words of consecration have been said, he kneels and adores the consecrated host. He rises, shows it to the people, puts it on the corporal, and again adores. Then, uncovering the chalice, he says:

Símili modo postquam cœnátum est,

In like manner, after he had supped,

He takes the chalice with both hands.

accípiens et hunc præclárum Cálicem in sanctas ac venerábiles manus suas, item tibi grátias agens,

...taking also this excellent chalice into his holy and adorable hands; also giving thanks to thee,

Holding the chalice with his left hand, he makes the sign of the cross over it with his right.

benedíxit, dedítque discípulis suis, dicens: Accípite, et bíbite ex eo omnes:

...he blessed , and gave it to his disciples, saying: Take, and drink ye all of this;

He utters the words of consecration over the chalice silently, attentively, carefully, and without pausing, holding it slightly raised.

Hic est enim Calix Sánguinis mei, novi et ætérni testaménti; mystérium fidei: qui pro vobis et pro multis effundétur in remissiónem peccatórum.

For this is the Chalice of my Blood, of the new and eternal testament; the mystery of faith: which shall be shed for you and for many unto the remission of sins.

As soon as the words of consecration have been said, he puts the chalice on the corporal, and says silently:

Hæc quotiescúmque fecéritis, in mei memóriam faciétis.

As often as ye shall do these things, ye shall do them in memory of me.

He kneels and adores; then rises, shows it to the people, puts it down, covers it, and again adores. Then holding his hands apart, he says:

Unde et mémores, Dómine, nos servi tui, sed et plebs tua sancta, ejúsdem Christi Fílii tui Dómini nostri, tam beatæ passiónis, necnon et ab ínferis resurrectiónis, sed et in cœlos gloriósæ ascensiónis: offérimus præcláræ majestáti tuæ de tuis donis ac datis,

Wherefore, O Lord, we thy servants, as also thy holy people, calling to mind the blessed passion of the same Christ thy Son our Lord, and also his rising up from hell, and his glorious ascension into heaven, do offer unto thy most excellent majesty, of thine own gifts bestowed upon us,

He joins his hands and makes the sign of the cross three times over the host and chalice together.

hóstiam puram, hóstiam sanctam, hóstiam immaculátam,

...a pure victim, a holy victim, a spotless victim,

He makes the sign of the cross once over the host and once over the chalice.

Panem sanctum vitæ ætérnæ, et Cálicem salútis perpétuæ.

...the holy Bread of eternal life, and the Chalice of everlasting salvation.

He continues with his hands stretched out:

Supra quæ propítio ac seréno vultu respícere dignéris: et accépta habére, sícuti accépta habére dignátus es múnera púeri tui justi Abel, et sacrifícium patriárchæ nostri Ábrahæ, et quod tibi óbtulit summus sacérdos tuus Melchísedech sanctum sacrifícium, immaculátam hóstiam.

Upon which do thou vouchsafe to look with a propitious and serene countenance, and to accept them, as thou wert graciously pleased to accept the gifts of thy just servant Abel, and the sacrifice of our patriarch Abraham, and that which thy high priest Melchisedech offered to thee, a holy sacrifice, a spotless victim.

Bowing low with his hands joined together and then laid on the altar, he says:

Súpplices te rogámus, omnípotens Deus: jube hæc perférri per manus sancti Ángeli tui in sublíme altáre tuum, in conspéctu divínæ majestátis tuæ: ut quotquot (osculatur altare), ex hac altáris participatióne, sacrosánctum Fílii tui,

We most humbly beseech thee, almighty God, to command that these things be borne by the hands of thy holy angel to thine altar On high, in the sight of thy divine majesty, that as many of us (he kisses the altar) as, at this altar, shall partake of and receive the...

He joins his hands together and makes the sign of the cross over the host and once over the chalice.

Corpus et Sánguinem sumpsérimus (seipsum signat), omni benedictióne cœlésti, et grátia repleámur (jungit manus). Per eúndem Christum Dóminum nostrum. Amen.

...most holy Body and Blood of thy Son (he makes the sign of the cross on himself), may be filled with every heavenly blessing and grace (he joins his hands together). Through the same Christ our Lord. Amen.

The Commemoration for the dead.

Meménto étiam, Dómine, famulórum famularúmque tuárum N. et N. qui nos præcessérunt cum signo fídei, et dórmiunt in somno pacis.

Be mindful, O Lord, of thy servants and handmaids N. and N., who are gone before us, with the sign of faith, and sleep in the sleep of peace.

He joins his hands, prays a little while for those dead whom he means to pray for, then with his hands stretched out, continues:

Ipsis, Dómine, et ómnibus in Christo quiescéntibus, locum refrigérii, lucis et pacis, ut indúlgeas, deprecámur.

To these, O Lord, and to all that rest in Christ, we beseech thee, grant a place of refreshment, light, and peace.

He joins his hands together, and bows his head.

Per eúmdem Christum Dóminum nostrum. Amen.

Through the same Christ our Lord. Amen.

He strikes his breast with his right hand, and slightly raising his voice, says:

Nobis quoque peccatóribus, fámulis tuis, de multitúdine miseratiónum tuárum sperántibus, partem áliquam et societátem donáre dignéris, cum tuis sanctis Apóstolis et Martyribus: cum Joánne, Stéphano, Mathía, Bárnaba, Ignátio, Alexándro, Marcellíno, Petro, Felicitáte, Perpétua, Ágatha, Lúcia, Agnéte, Cæcília, Anastásia, et ómnibus sanctis tuis; intra quorum nos consórtium, non æstimátor mériti, sed véniæ, quæsumus, largítor admítte. Per Christum Dóminum nostrum. Per quem hæc ómnia, Dómine, semper bona creas, sanctíficas, vivíficas, benedícis, et præstas nobis.

To us sinners, also, thy servants, hoping in the multitude of thy mercies, vouchsafe to grant some part and fellowship with thy holy apostles and martyrs: with John, Stephen, Matthias, Barnabas, Ignatius, Alexander, Marcellinus, Peter, Felicity, Perpetua, Agatha, Lucy, Agnes, Cecily, Anastasia, and with all thy saints, into whose company we pray thee admit us, not considering our merit, but of thine own free pardon. Through Christ our Lord; through whom, O Lord, thou dost create, hallow, quicken, and bless these thine ever-bountiful gifts and give them, to us.

He uncovers the chalice, kneels, takes the blessed sacrament in his right hand, and holding the chalice in his left, makes the sign of the cross three times over it from lip to lip, saying:

Per ipsum, et cum ipso, et in ipso,

By him, and with him, and in him,

He makes the sign of the cross twice between the chalice and his breast.

est tibi Deo Patri omnipoténti, in unitáte Spíritus sancti,

...is to thee, God the Father almighty, in the unity of the Holy Ghost,

Lifting up the chalice a little with the host, he says:

omnis honor et glória.

...all honour and glory.

He puts back the host, covers the chalice, kneels, rises, and sings or reads:

Per ómnia sæcula sæculórum. R. Amen.

Orémus. Præcéptis salutáribus móniti, et divína institutióne formáti, audémus dícere:

For ever and ever. R. Amen.

Let us pray. Taught by the precepts of salvation, and following the divine commandment, we make bold to say:

He stretches out his hands.

Pater noster, qui es in cœlis, sanctificétur nomen tuum: advéniat regnum tuum: fiat volúntas tua, sicut in cœlo et in terra panem nostrum quotidiánum da nobis hódie; et dímitte nobis débita nostra, sicut et nos dimíttimus debitóribus nostris: et ne nos indúcas in tentatiónem.

R. Sed líbera nos a malo.

Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name: thy kingdom come; thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread: and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive them that trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation.

R. But deliver us from evil.

The priest says, Amen. He takes the paten between his first and middle finger, and says:

Líbera nos, quæsumus Dómine, ab ómnibus malis prætéritis, præséntibus, et futúris, et intercedénte beáta et gloriósa semper Vírgine Dei genitríce María, cum beátis Apóstolis tuis Petro et Paulo, atque Andréa, et ómnibus sanctis,

Deliver us, we beseech thee, O Lord, from all evils, past, present, and to come; and by the intercession of the blessed and glorious, Mary ever virgin, Mother of God, together with thy blessed apostles Peter and Paul, and Andrew, and all the saints,

He makes the sign of the cross with the paten from his forehead to his breast and kisses it.

da propítius pacem in diébus nostris: ut ope misericórdiæ tuæ adjúti, et a peccáto simus semper líberi, et ab omni perturbatióne secúri.

mercifully grant peace in our days: that through the help of thy mercy we may always be free from sin, and safe from all trouble.

He puts the paten under the host, uncovers the chalice, kneels, rises, takes the host and breaks it in half over the chalice, saying:

Per eúmdem Dóminum nostrum Jesum Christum Fílium tuum,

Through the same Jesus Christ thy Son our Lord,

He puts the portion that is in his right hand on to the paten; he then breaks off a small piece from the portion which is in his left hand, saying:

qui tecum vivit et regnat in unitáte Spíritus sancti Deus.

who liveth and reigneth with thee in the unity of the Holy Ghost, one God.

He puts the other half with his left hand on to the paten, and holding the particle over the chalice in his right hand, and the chalice with his left, he says:

Per ómnia sæcula sæculórum. R. Amen.

For ever and ever. R. Amen.

He makes the sign of the cross three times over the chalice with the particle of the host, saying:

Pax Dómini sit semper vobíscum.

R. Et cum spíritu tuo.

The peace of the Lord be always with you.

R. And with thy spirit.

He puts the particle into the chalice, saying silently:

Hæc commíxtio et consecrátio Córporis et Sánguinis Dómini nostri Jesu Christi, fiat accipiéntibus nobis in vitam ætérnam. Amen.

May this mingling and hallowing of the Body and Blood of our Lord Jesus Christ avail us that receive it unto life everlasting. Amen.

He covers the chalice, kneels, rises, and bowing before the blessed Sacrament, with his hands joined together and striking his breast three times, says:

Agnus Dei, qui tollis peccáta mundi, miserére nobis.

Agnus Dei, qui tollis peccáta mundi, miserére nobis.

Agnus Dei, qui tollis peccáta mundi, dona nobis pacem.

Lamb of God, who takest away the sins of the world, have mercy on us.

Lamb of God, who takest away the sins of the world, have mercy on us.

Lamb of God, who takest away the sins of the world, grant us peace.

At mass for the dead, instead of saying: miserére nobis, he says: dona eis réquiem, rest. And the third time he adds, sempitérnam, everlasting.

Then with his hands joined together above the altar he bows down and says the following prayers:

Dómine Jesu Christe, qui dixísti Apóstolis tuis: Pacem relínquo vobis, pacem meam do vobis: ne respícias peccáta mea, sed fidem Eccelésiæ tuæ: eámque secúndum voluntátem tuam pacificáre et coaduráre dignéris. Qui vivis et regnas Deus, per ómnia sæcula sæculórum. Amen.

O Lord Jesus Christ, who didst say to thy apostles, Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you; look not upon my sins, but upon the faith of thy Church; and vouchsafe to her that peace and unity which is agreeable to thy will; who livest and reignest God for ever and ever. Amen.

If the kiss of peace is to be given, the priest kisses the altar, and giving the kiss of peace, says:

Pax tecum.

R. Et cum spíritu tuo.

Peace be with you.

R. And with thy spirit.

At masses for the dead the kiss of peace is not given, neither is the above prayer said.

Dómine Jesu Christe, Fili Dei vivi, qui ex voluntáte Patris, cooperánte Spíritu sancto, per mortem tuam mundum vivificásti: líbera me per hoc sacrosánctum Corpus et Sánguinem tuum, ab ómnibus iniquitátibus meis, et univérsis malis, et fac me tuis semper inhærére mandátis, et a te numquam separári permíttas. Qui cum eódem Deo Patre et Spíritu sancto vivis et regnas Deus in sæcula sæculórum. Amen.

Percéptio Córporis tui, Dómine Jesu Christe, quod ego indígnus súmere præsúmo, non mihi provéniat in judícium et condemnatiónem: sed pro tua pietáte prosit mihi ad tutaméntum mentis et córporis, et ad medélam percipiéndam. Qui vivis et regnas cum Deo Patre in unitáte Spíritus sancti Deus, per ómnia sæcula sæculórum. Amen.

O Lord Jesus Christ, Son of the living God, who, according to the will of thy Father, through the co-operation of the Holy Ghost, hast by thy death given life to the world, deliver me by this, thy most holy Body and Blood, from all my iniquities and from every evil; and make me always cleave to thy commandments, and never suffer p. 473 me to be separated from thee; who with the same God the Father and Holy Ghost livest and reignest God for ever and ever. Amen.

Let not the receiving of thy Body, O Lord Jesus Christ, which I, all unworthy presume to take, turn to my judgement and damnation: but through thy loving-kindness may it avail me for a safeguard and remedy, both of soul and body. Who with God the Father, in the unity of the Holy Ghost, livest and reignest God for ever and ever. Amen.

The priest kneels down, rises, and says:

Panem cœléstem accípiam, et nomen Dómini invocábo.

I will take the Bread of heaven, and call upon the name of the Lord.

Then, bowing a little, he takes both parts of the host with the thumb and first finger of his left hand, and the paten between his first and middle finger. He strikes his breast with his right hand, and, slightly raising his voice, says three times reverently and humbly:

Dómine, non sum dignus, ut intres sub tectum meum: sed tantum dic verbo, et sanábitur ánima mea.

Lord, I am not worthy that thou shouldst enter under my roof; say but the word, and my soul shall be healed.

He makes the sign of the cross with the host in his right hand over the paten, and says:

Corpus Dómini nostri Jesu Christi custódiat ánimam meam in vitam ætérnam. Amen.

May the Body of our Lord Jesus Christ preserve my soul unto life everlasting. Amen.

He receives both portions of the host reverently, joins his hands together, and remains for a little while quietly meditating on the most holy Sacrament. Then he uncovers the chalice, kneels, gathers up the crumbs, if there are any, and wipes the paten above the chalice, whilst he says:

Quid retríbuam Dómino pro ómnibus, quæ retríbuit mihi? Cálicem salutáris accípiam, et nomen Dómini invocábo. Laudans invocábo Dóminum, et ab inimícis meis salvus ero.

What return shall I make to the Lord for all he hath given unto me? I will take the Chalice of salvation, p. 474 and call upon the name of the Lord. Praising I will call upon the Lord, and I shall be saved from my enemies.

He takes the chalice into his right hand, and making the sign of the cross on himself with it, he says:

Sanguis Dómini nostri Jesu Christi custódiat ánimam meam in vitam ætérnam. Amen.

May the Blood of our Lord Jesus Christ keep my soul unto life everlasting, Amen.

He receives the precious blood with the particle. Then, if there are any communicants, he should give them communion before purifying. Afterwards he says:

Quod ore súmpsimus, Dómine, pura mente capiámus; et de múnere temporáli fiat nobis remédium sempitérnum.

Grant, Lord, that what we have taken with our mouth we may receive with a pure mind; and that from a temporal gift it may become for us an eternal remedy.

Meanwhile he passes the chalice to the server, who pours into a little wine, with which he cleanses his fingers; then he continues:

Corpus tuum, Dómine, quod sumpsi, et Sanguis quem potávi, adhæreat viscéribus meis: et præsta; ut in me non remáneat scélerum mácula, quem pura et sancta refecérunt sacraménta. Qui vivis et regnas in sæcula sæculórum. Amen.

May thy Body, O Lord, which I have received, and thy Blood which I have drunk, cleave to my bowels; and grant that no stain of sin may remain in me, whom thy pure and holy sacraments have refreshed; who livest and reignest world without end. Amen.

He washes his fingers, wipes them, and takes the ablution; he wipes his mouth and the chalice, which he covers, and after folding up the corporal, arranges it on the altar as before. Then he continues mass. After the last Postcommunion the priest says:

Dóminus vobíscum.

R. Et cum spíritu tuo.

The Lord be with you.

R. And with thy spirit.

Then either:

Ite, missa est.

Go, you are dismissed.

or, according to what mass is being said:

Benedicámus Dómino.

R. Deo grátias.

Let us bless the Lord.

R. Thanks be to God.

At mass for the dead, he says:

Requiéscant in pace.

R. Amen.

May they rest in peace.

R. Amen.

After saying, Ite missa est or Benedicámus Dómino, the priest bows down at the middle of the altar, and with his hands joined above it, says:

Pláceat tibi, sancta Trínitas, obséquium servitútis meæ: et præsta; ut sacrifícium quod óculis tuæ majestátis indígnus óbtuli, tibi sit acceptábile, mihíque, et ómnibus pro quibus illud óbtuli, sit, te miseránte, propitiábile. Per Christum Dóminum nostrum. Amen.

May the homage of my service be pleasing to thee, O holy Trinity; and grant that the sacrifice which I, though unworthy, have offered in the sight of thy majesty, may be acceptable to thee: and through thy mercy win forgiveness for me and for all those for whom I have offered it. Through Christ our Lord. Amen.

Then he kisses the altar, and raising his eyes upward, stretching out, lifting up, and joining his hands, bowing his head before the cross, he says:

Benedícat vos omnípotens Deus,

May God almighty bless you,

and turning towards the people, he blesses them once only, even at high mass, and continues:

Pater, et Fílius et Spíritus sanctus. R. Amen.

Father, and Son and Holy Ghost. R. Amen.

At a bishop's mass a triple blessing is given. At mass for the dead no blessing is given.

Then at the Gospel corner, after saying Dóminus vobíscum, and Inítium or Sequéntia sancti Evangélii, and making the sign of the cross on the altar, or on the book and on himself as at the Gospel in the mass, he reads the Gospel of St. John, as below, or another Gospel as appointed.

Inítium sancti Evangélii secúndum Joánnem. R. Glória tibi, Dómine.

In princípio erat Verbum, et Verbum erat apud Deum, et Deus erat Verbum. Hoc erat in princípio apud Deum. Ómnia per ipsum facta sunt, et sine ipso factum est nihil quod factum est. In ipso vita erat, et vita erat lux hóminum, et lux in ténebris lucet, et ténebræ eam non comprehendérunt. Fuit homo missus a Deo, cui nomen erat Joánnes. Hic venit in testimónium, ut testimónium perhibéret de lúmine, ut omnes créderent per illum. Non erat ille lux, sed ut testimónium perhibéret de lúmine. Erat lux vera quæ illúminat omnem hóminem veniéntem in hunc mundum. In mundo erat, et mundus per ipsum factus est, et mundus eum non cognóvit. In própria venit, et sui eum non recepérunt; quotquot autem recepérunt eum, dedit eis potestátem fílios Dei fíeri; his qui credunt in nómine ejus, qui non ex sanguínibus, neque ex voluntáte carnis, neque ex voluntáte viri, sed ex Deo nati sunt. (Hic genuflectitur.) Et verbum caro factum est, et habitávit in nobis: et vídimus glóriam ejus, glóriam quasi Unigéniti a Patre, plenum grátiæ et veritátis.

R. Deo grátias.

The beginning of the holy Gospel according to St. John. R. Glory be to thee, O Lord.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God: the same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him, and without him was made nothing that was made: in him was life, and the life was the light of men; and the light shineth in darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend p. 476 it. There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. This man came for a witness to give testimony of the light, that all men might believe through him. He was not the light, but was to give testimony of the light, that was the true light which enlighteneth every man that cometh into this world. He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. He came unto his own, and his own received him not. But as many as received him, he gave them power to become the sons of God: to them that believe in his name, who are born not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. And the Word was made flesh (here the people kneel down), and dwelt among us; and we saw his glory, the glory as it were of the only-begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.

R. Thanks be to God.

While leaving the altar the priest says silently the antiphon Trium puerórum, &c.

Is there such a thing as a non-theocratic theocracy? What is a Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom United States of the Solar System? Under what circumstances would a union of church and state become acceptable to those who oppose such marriages? Is a separation of church and state always good? Is state as church - or church as state - always bad? These are not rhetorical questions. This solar system governance thing might be simultaneously simpler - and more complex - than we imagine that it could be. If one superimposed the United Nations, the City of London, and Washington D.C. upon the Vatican - rather than the other way around - what might we end up with? I hate to say it - but I am almost conceptually placing myself within the walls of the Vatican - to think about some of these issues - even though I am not, and have never been, a member of the Roman Catholic Church. This is very strange territory to be traversing. I am presently reading 'The Jesuits', 'The Keys of This Blood', and 'Windswept House' by Father Malachi Martin - and I am very familiar with 'The Great Controversy' by Ellen G. White. I just made a post regarding the Latin Mass - and I have been looking at the ancient Babylonian and Egyptian connections with Rome - both Pagan and Papal. I really need help negotiating through the intricacies and minutia of solar system governance. Ideally, it should almost run itself - and require no heroics, angry debates, or drastic measures. It should be very dull and boring. Everyone should be able to just sit in hot-tubs and watch science-fiction movies - waiting for something of interest to materialize in the real world of a brave new solar system. I really would like to learn from other civilizations - progressive and regressive - sacred and secular. I will continue to traipse through the valley of the shadow of death - as though the force were with me - instead of against me - and try to make sense out of millions of years of non-sense. I really don't know what I'm saying. I'm just rambling and mumbling - as I attempt to learn the Universal Language of a Legitimate Universal Church. What am I saying? Can anyone decipher my heretical heiroglyphics? Somehow, I feel as though I might be a lot more at home in underground bases and spaceships - than I am on the Prison Planet Earth - trying to live in the insanity of the 'Real World'. O wretched man that I am. Who shall deliver me an eyes-only, classified-file, outlining the true State of the Universe, without too many, or too few, words - and with absolutely no bullshit whatsoever? I shouldn't hold my breath, waiting for the man with the briefcase chained to his wrist, should I? Besides, I gave-up waiting for hell to freeze over - right around the onset of puberty. Unfortunately, my puritanical morality and guilt-complex would not allow me to enjoy the joys and follies of a reckless and irresponsible youth. I actually took what they taught me - SERIOUSLY. I was, and am, a completely ignorant fool - just like Raven said. Imagine John F. Kennedy and Marilyn Monroe as being Co-Popes (Copes) in a Post-Vatican III Church - which might be comfortably at home in antiquity and modernity. Look at me! Now I've graduated from pontificating - and gone to meddling. I just crossed-over - into the Twilight Zone. They have ways to make me stop...

Don't take the previous paragraph too seriously! I was really tired, and I was trying to stay awake while watching an episode of 'Stargate Universe'. I'm going to leave what I wrote, because it sort of sounds cool, and some of it actually makes sense. I guess I just try to stir things up enough, to make you all think new thoughts, which just might help you solve some pressing problems. I sincerely hope that I don't create more problems than I solve. I'd still like to know what REALLY goes on in the United Nations, the City States, the Underground Bases, and the Darkside of the Moon. I'd like to see a map of the Solar System, showing where ALL LIFE is located - and what the nature of that life is, exactly. I want to know EVERYTHING. But if I really did know it all, I really would need to be institutionalized - and I'm not kidding. Did you know that Jesus is an Institutionalized Liberal? Once again - they really do have ways to make me stop...

One more thing. Tehuti is important. Liberate Tehuti. I don't have the time or energy to embark on yet another wild goose chase - but I will give it some careful consideration, at some point. I just feel as though we can struggle and fight - and end up right back where we started - if we're lucky. Sometimes, I think we need to just stop. Or, perhaps I should just speak for myself. Perhaps I simply need to regain a sane and meaningful life - before getting into any more hornet's nests. You know, I really probably don't need to travel anywhere - on Earth or Beyond. A simple, thousand square-foot home, and an entry-level Cray, might be all I ever need. Or maybe I don't even need that. Is Paradise even possible? Will we have to work our asses off - just to remain in Purgatory? I'm just presently thinking that we need to do the very best we can with this solar system. I really don't know what the true state of affairs are, throughout the universe - but I don't think we should abandon this solar system - in retreat or conquest. I think we need to make things work - right here, and right now. Then we can deal with any other eventualities, as they arise. We might have much better success, with friend and foe alike, if we simply get our house in order - make our bed, and sleep in it. I stand by virtually everything I have posted on the internet - and I will work outward from this perspective - in a rather passive manner. I just wish that I had some company. My more aggressive and questionable posts are probably expressions of desperation. Take everything I say, seriously - but not too seriously...

How do I start playing hardball? Should I start playing hardball? Am I even capable of playing hardball? Jesus played hardball, didn't he? If Jesus was really the Archangel Michael - then he might've played hardball with a sword - and who knows what else? I keep hoping that this low-key approach is actually accomplishing something - but should I attempt to do the Alex Jones routine? I think I would fall flat on my face if I tried. I am so burned-out and disillusioned, that I'd probably fall flat on my face, doing anything more complicated than tying my shoes. I really am a completely ignorant fool - but I still think this thread is basically heading in the right direction. On the other hand, I think Jesus was heading in the right direction with His Teachings - but what has the world done with them? Which church, in 2,000 years of Christian history, has made the Teachings of Jesus, plus nothing, their doctrinal statement - and their sole rule of faith and practice? Are there any doctrinal purity studies which answer this question? It seems as though it helps to sell your soul to you know who, in order to rise to the top. Do Christlike people hold the highest positions in church, state, finance, and industry? It helps to be a morally-ambiguous, back-stabbing, two-faced, son of a bitch - doesn't it? I don't know what I'm going to do, exactly - but I'm going to attempt to be a lot tougher, and a lot more focused. Completely Ignorant Fools UNITE!! Don't laugh! We constitute 90% of the world population! The fools will inherit the earth!

I'm interested in Alien and Hybrid Anatomy, Physiology, Psychology, Ethics, and Spirituality. I just wish I had a pass to visit any facility, speak with anyone, attend any meeting, view every file - anywhere in the solar system. Am I crazier than normal? (get it?) I might choose not to do any of the above. I might not be able to handle any of the above. But wouldn't it be cool to be able to do so? (for a while, anyway?) I don't know what really brought this on. I'm watching another episode of 'Stargate Universe'. Perhaps that has something to do with it.

What if we authorized someone to toughen us up (in antiquity - prior to the War in Heaven) - to be able to eventually become a sovereign humanity? I don't know what brought that on - and it is based upon next to nothing. But someone, who seems to have the capability to exterminate us, seems to have been a harsh taskmaster to us, for a very long time. The truth could really be just about anything. How would we know when we hit bedrock truth?

It feels like we escaped from something ominous - and were then ruled-over by something nearly as ominous - and that this problematic existence continues, even as I type. I keep seeing two BADASS SUPERPOWERS - with humanity in the middle. Nimrod, Semiramis, and Horus - repeated over and over - throughout history? Will Horus be able to successfully exist - without the intervention of Nimrod and Semiramis? I've tried to keep this thread light - but all of this could be more serious than ANY of us can imagine. All of this could be stranger than ANY of us can comprehend. Remaining sane might be impossible for most of us. Perhaps this is why 'Disclosure' is slower than constipation. I wish I were kidding.

Regardless what happens, I would like to remain in touch with all of the beings of the universe - both progressive and regressive - going forward indefinitely. I really do seek a Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom United States of the Solar System - but this doesn't mean that I don't wish to learn from all races and civilizations - throughout the universe. I think we are a mess, presently - but that everything is in place, to really achieve a united yet free humanity - if we don't exterminate ourselves. We seem to be in Purgatory - and on the brink of Heaven or Hell. Which is it gonna be? Choose wisely. Act quickly. Godspeed.

OXY, I love reading your posts as they often have me laughing as you are so brilliant in how you explore all of this while also maintaining a wicked sense of humor. No wonder your threads are so popular (read by so many members and guests). I dare say you keep them speechless because you cover the topic so throughly there isn't much left to say.

Reading your text is like taking a multi-vitamin aa it has everything in there to think upon. You take us on a journey of self-exploration to a very deep level... and still demonstrate how one can dive down deep into the psyche and pop back up like a cork. It's like watching Jack Horner in the corner pulling out delicious plumbs.

Carol wrote:OXY, I love reading your posts as they often have me laughing as you are so brilliant in how you explore all of this while also maintaining a wicked sense of humor. No wonder your threads are so popular (read by so many members and guests). I dare say you keep them speechless because you cover the topic so throughly there isn't much left to say.

Reading your text is like taking a multi-vitamin aa it has everything in there to think upon. You take us on a journey of self-exploration to a very deep level... and still demonstrate how one can dive down deep into the psyche and pop back up like a cork. It's like watching Jack Horner in the corner pulling out delicious plumbs.

Thank-you Carol. This really is self-exploration, more than anything else. And I am inviting others along for the ride. This really is more about asking questions - than it is about providing answers. I'm really just scratching the surface. I fully realize that You, Brook, Anchor, TRANCOSO, Lionhawk, Raven, et al - all know a helluva lot more than I do. But I still have to try to launch out on my own - to try to find my own way. If I didn't keep bumping this thread - I doubt that there would be so many views.

I think we should watch a lot of science fiction. But I think we should superimpose our research onto this science fiction. We really should be prepared for just about anything. We should consider all of the possibilities - all of the time. Check-out this episode of 'Stargate Universe'. http://www.hulu.com/watch/195581/stargate-universe-visitation

Perhaps, perhaps not. I enjoy your process. And you're correct in your assessment that in the beginning there are sooo many questions. I had so many questions my head was constantly spinning for years. My curiousity has me visiting hundreds of sites a day and this has been going on for the past 15 years. I'm still unquenchable. I'm still learning new things and still amazed with what there is to learn. And the best part is that learning is the Neverending Story.

I find myself in a state of fascination and wonder.. or catch mysel thinking, "Well, imagine that." What I love best is science, art, music, architecture, different cultures..nature, gardens, beauty, it's an endless list. Everyday there is something new to learn about. And I do dive down into topics to explore more and love traveling links to see where they'll take me. Each day is a journey of constant discovery.

I think what you see in us is just another aspect of yourself being reflected back.

Years back, I do recall many hours spent in meditation stripping away illusion (it's all maya) until I got down to the bare bones.. which was nothing. But not the nothing where one is bored or thinks of it as a vapid empty pit. The real NO THING is astoundaing because it is pure conscious awareness in a primordial soup of creative potential. What a revelation that experience was.

So.. one does have to travel beyond the monkey mind to get to such an experience and the experience is well worth it.

You will never grow old as long as your maintain your curiousity Oxy.

And if it makes you feel any better, I suspect I'm the eldest member on this forum. I've had a longer time then many to travel these pathways.

Thank-you Carol. I appreciate your multi-disciplinary approach to learning. I like the idea of exploring a variety of subjects - without deadlines or pressure. I'm liking my little dreamworld of travelling the solar system - which includes everything - ancient, modern, terrestrial, extraterrestrial, theological, political, architectural, musical, etc. A lot of what I am presently considering is quite dark (like 'Windswept House') - but I try to counterbalance the darkness with as much light as possible. This is not an easy thing to do - and I worry that a lot of people are going to get burned badly - as we transition into a brave new solar system. I really don't think there is any easy way to do this. We just have to keep on keeping on. When the going gets tough - the tough watch science-fiction. Even in the middle of the darkness - I try to find solutions - which is really sort of fun - once you get used to it.

I just decided to read posts 347 and 348 outloud - each and every day. I will attempt to commit them to memory - but this will take me quite a while! Repetition, repetition, repetition - and ACTION! I'm going to pretend that the content of these posts are already a done-deal. Fake it - till you make it. Thank-you W. Clement Stone and Robert H. Schuller! Study the books and sermons of Dr. Schuller. Especially during the 70's and 80's. Concentrate on the principles and concepts. Consider his ministry to be corrective, rather than normative. This is a subtle yet important distinction. I think we need to concentrate on foundational principles, concepts, and documents. This process should simultaneously be simple and complex. We should make things as simple as possible, yet consider the far-reaching implications and ramifications, in excruciating detail. I'm hoping that some Philadelphia lawyers are taking a long, hard look at all of this. I mean well, but my personal resources are somewhat limited. I need lots and lots of help - to really get this thing right. Come-on humanity! Let's go!

READER-FRIENDLY VERSION OF THE FOUNDING DOCUMENTS OF THE UNITED STATES OF THE SOLAR SYSTEM (NON-AUTHORITATIVE) - TRY READING THIS POST OUTLOUD - AT LEAST ONCE EACH WEEK - AND THEN TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK!

WE THE PEOPLE OF EARTH are determined to save succeeding generations from the scourge of war, and to reaffirm faith in fundamental human rights, in the dignity and worth of the human person, in the equal rights of men and women and of nations large and small, and to establish conditions under which justice and respect for the obligations arising from the Constitution of the United States of the Solar System can be maintained, and to promote social progress and better standards of life in larger freedom. To practice tolerance and live together in peace with one another as good neighbours, and to unite our strength to maintain interplanetary peace and security, and to ensure, by the acceptance of principles and the institution of methods, that armed force shall not be used, save in the common interest, and to employ interplanetary machinery for the promotion of the economic and social advancement of all peoples.

Recognition of the inherent dignity and of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world. Disregard and contempt for human rights have resulted in barbarous acts which have outraged the conscience of mankind, and the advent of a world in which human beings shall enjoy freedom of speech and belief and freedom from fear and want has been proclaimed as the highest aspiration of the common people. It is essential, if man is not to be compelled to have recourse, as a last resort, to rebellion against tyranny and oppression, that human rights should be protected by the rule of law. It is essential to promote the development of friendly relations between Member States. We the people of Earth have reaffirmed our faith in fundamental human rights, in the dignity and worth of the human person and in the equal rights of men and women and have determined to promote social progress and better standards of life in larger freedom. Member States have pledged themselves to achieve, in co-operation with the United States of the Solar System the promotion of universal respect for and observance of human rights and fundamental freedoms. A common understanding of these rights and freedoms is of the greatest importance.

Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom...in the context of The United States of the Solar System...is a common standard of achievement for all peoples and all Member States, to the end that every individual and every organ of society, keeping these principles, concepts, and documents constantly in mind, shall strive by teaching and education to promote respect for these rights and freedoms and by progressive measures, interstate and interplanetary, to secure their universal and effective recognition and observance among the peoples of Member States.

All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood. Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms inherent in the United States of the Solar System, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, territorial or social origin, property, birth or other status. Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political or jurisdictional status of the Member State to which a person belongs.

Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person. No one shall be held in slavery or servitude; slavery and the slave trade shall be prohibited in all their forms. No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment. Everyone has the right to recognition everywhere as a person before the law. All are equal before the law and are entitled without any discrimination to equal protection of the law. All are entitled to equal protection against any discrimination in violation of this Declaration and against any incitement to such discrimination. Everyone has the right to an effective remedy by the competent Member State tribunals for acts violating the fundamental rights granted him by the constitution or by law.

No one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile. Everyone is entitled in full equality to a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial tribunal, in the determination of his rights and obligations and of any criminal charge against him. Everyone charged with a penal offence has the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law in a public trial at which he has had all the guarantees necessary for his defence. No one shall be held guilty of any penal offence on account of any act or omission which did not constitute a penal offence, under state or interplanetary law, at the time when it was committed. Nor shall a heavier penalty be imposed than the one that was applicable at the time the penal offence was committed.

No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks. Everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each Member State. Everyone has the right to leave any Member State, and to return. Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other Member States asylum from persecution. This right may not be invoked in the case of prosecutions genuinely arising from non-political crimes or from acts contrary to the purposes and principles of the United States of the Solar System. Everyone has the right to own property alone as well as in association with others. No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property.

Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race, state or religion, have the right to marry and to found a family. They are entitled to equal rights as to marriage, during marriage and at its dissolution. Marriage shall be entered into only with the free and full consent of the intending spouses. The family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society and is entitled to protection by society and the State.

Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance. Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers. Everyone has the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and association. No one may be compelled to belong to an association.

Everyone has the right to take part in the government of his state, directly or through freely chosen representatives. Everyone has the right of equal access to public service in his Member State. The will of the people shall be the basis of the authority of government; this will shall be expressed in periodic and genuine elections which shall be by universal and equal suffrage and shall be held by secret vote or by equivalent free voting procedures. Everyone, as a member of society, has the right to social security and is entitled to realization, through state effort and interplanetary co-operation and in accordance with the organization and resources of each Member State, of the economic, social and cultural rights indispensable for his dignity and the free development of his personality.

Everyone has the right to work, to free choice of employment, to just and favourable conditions of work and to protection against unemployment. Everyone, without any discrimination, has the right to equal pay for equal work. Everyone who works has the right to just and favourable remuneration ensuring for himself and his family an existence worthy of human dignity, and supplemented, if necessary, by other means of social protection. Everyone has the right to form and to join trade unions for the protection of his interests. Everyone has the right to rest and leisure, including reasonable limitation of working hours and periodic holidays with pay. Everyone has the right to work to achieve a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control. Motherhood and childhood are entitled to special care and assistance. All children, whether born in or out of wedlock, shall enjoy the same social protection.

Everyone has the right to education. Education shall be free, at least in the elementary and fundamental stages. Elementary education shall be compulsory. Technical and professional education shall be made generally available and higher education shall be equally accessible to all on the basis of merit. Education shall be directed to the full development of the human personality and to the strengthening of respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms. It shall promote understanding, tolerance and friendship among all Member States, racial or religious groups, and shall further the activities of the United States of the Solar System for the maintenance of peace. Parents have a prior right to choose the kind of education that shall be given to their children.

Everyone has the right freely to participate in the cultural life of the community, to enjoy the arts and to share in scientific advancement and its benefits. Everyone has the right to the protection of the moral and material interests resulting from any scientific, literary or artistic production of which he is the author. Everyone has duties to the community in which alone the free and full development of his personality is possible. In the exercise of his rights and freedoms, everyone shall be subject only to such limitations as are determined by law solely for the purpose of securing due recognition and respect for the rights and freedoms of others and of meeting the just requirements of morality, public order and the general welfare in a democratic society. These rights and freedoms may in no case be exercised contrary to the purposes and principles of the United States of the Solar System.

We, the People of Earth, extend greetings to all races in the Greater Community of the Universe. We acknowledge our common heritage before the Creator of all the Universe, both visible and invisible. We declare the planet Earth as our sacred inheritance. We pledge henceforth to sustain and preserve the Earth for all generations to come. We call upon all humanity to treat all races everywhere with wisdom and justice, here on Earth and throughout the Universe.

We, the People of Earth, regard the need for freedom to be universal. Therefore, we hold that all individuals in all worlds are created equal and are endowed by the Creator with sacred and inalienable rights. Fundamental among these are the right to live as a free race; the right of self-determination, self-sufficiency, and creative expression; the right to life without oppression; and the right to pursue in life a higher purpose and a higher calling that the Creator has provided to all.

Before the Greater Community of the Universe, we, the People of Earth, do now invoke these fundamental rights for ourselves, along with certain rights that naturally derive from them, including:

-The right of sovereignty. The People of Earth shall be self-governed and independent, neither subject to nor dependent upon any other authority. No extraterrestrial force shall contravene or abrogate the human sovereignty of this planet.

-The right of planetary sanctity. Earth shall be free from extraterrestrial intervention, intrusion, interference, or exploitation, both mental and physical. No extraterrestrial force shall make close approach, or assume close orbit, or make any landing, or engage in trade, except openly and with the expressed consent of the People of Earth achieved through a democratic means.

-The right of sanctity of biological and genetic material. No extraterrestrial power shall take, possess, or manipulate human biological or genetic material for any purpose whatsoever.

-The right of occupation. We the People of Earth claim this Solar System as our sphere of influence. No extraterrestrial bases may be established on bodies or stations orbiting the Earth, nor on other planets or bodies of this Solar System, except with the expressed consent of the People of Earth.

-The right of peaceful navigation. We claim the right to travel and explore within our Solar System without interference or restraint from extraterrestrial forces, and maintain the right to deny access to this Solar System by any extraterrestrial forces.

We, the People of Earth, consider it our rightful responsibility to assert and defend these fundamental rights, and to give and receive aid consistent with these rights.

When in the course of their evolution it becomes necessary for the native people of a planet to unite, to transcend the conflicts and differences that have separated them from one another, and to assume among the powers of the Universe a separate and equal sovereignty, a respectful consideration of that sovereignty requires that they declare the causes which impel them to this present course of action.

Although the Earth has undergone a long history of extraterrestrial visitation, the current situation is that the People of Earth are now suffering the effects of a global extraterrestrial intervention into human affairs. This intervention employs a strategy of deception, manipulation, and exploitation, the goal of which is control over humanity, which will result in the loss of human freedom and self-determination. It is now the sacred right and duty of the People of Earth to oppose, resist, and repel this extraterrestrial intervention, to declare and defend our sovereignty, our freedom, and our independence from all extraterrestrial forces.

Let these violations be considered by those supporting the cause of freedom throughout the Greater Community:

-Intervening extraterrestrial forces have refused to openly disclose and reveal the nature and intent of their activities on and around Earth. This extraterrestrial presence is clandestine, covert, uninvited, and unapproved by the People of Earth. These extraterrestrial forces have concealed their own identity, their political or economic alliances and allegiances, as well as the authorities and powers which they serve.

-As is becoming increasingly apparent from their actions, extraterrestrial forces intend to exploit the Earth, its resources, and its people, and are engaged in a systematic program of colonizing humanity into a subservient client state to be ruled by agents of these extraterrestrial forces. The extraterrestrial intervention and occupation seeks commercial gain, economic power, and the strategic advantage offered by this world in relation to other worlds.

-Extraterrestrial forces have repeatedly and with impunity violated national and international laws of the Earth’s people. These offenses, which still continue today, have included violation of restricted airspace; abduction and transportation of humans without their consent; murder, rape, torture, sexual abuse, interbreeding with humans, and cruel experimentation; theft and trade of human biological and genetic materials; theft and trade of Earth’s natural resources; covert mental and psychological influence; mutilation of humans and animals; tampering with and disabling of military defense systems; and clandestine infiltration into human society.

-Extraterrestrial forces have secretly negotiated treaties and agreements with human individuals and groups, without the informed consent of the People of Earth.

-Extraterrestrial forces have systematically attempted to persuade and mislead humans through extending false hopes and promises of wealth, power, and protection; rescue from planetary catastrophe; membership in a “galactic federation”; and spiritual salvation and enlightenment.

-Extraterrestrial forces have exploited and exacerbated human conflicts to serve their own ends.

-Extraterrestrial forces have been disempowering humanity by leading us to believe that we can only survive with their help and their advanced technology, thus fostering our complete dependence upon them and denying our ability to ensure our own survival.

Accordingly, we, the People of Earth, do hereby declare all previously existing agreements or treaties between any human government, group, or individual and any extraterrestrials to be forthwith null, void, and permanently suspended. We demand that any such previously existing treaties or agreements be fully and publicly disclosed. Any future agreements or treaties between human governments, groups, or individuals and extraterrestrials must be negotiated only with the full consent of the People of Earth, publicly and openly expressed by an international democratic body representing the nations and peoples of Earth.

We demand that all extraterrestrials now cease all operations and activities and immediately vacate and depart from the Earth and its surroundings including the Sun, Earth’s Moon, and all planets of this Solar System. This includes vacating any natural or artificial satellites, as well as all space within the Solar System.

We demand that all extraterrestrial organizations who have established or operated bases on the Earth, its Moon, or anywhere else within this Solar System, to vacate these bases, and fully disclose their nature. These bases should then be used to defend the Solar System.

We further demand that all living humans who are now in custody of extraterrestrials be returned immediately in good health; further, we demand a full accounting of all humans who have been taken or held by extraterrestrials, including those who have died in captivity. In addition, we demand that all human biological or genetic materials taken from any individuals be accounted for and destroyed, and their intended use be identified. Any devices implanted in living individuals must be identified so that they may be safely removed.

We demand full public disclosure of the purpose and details of the extraterrestrial hybridization program, including the location, identity, and activities of all living human-extraterrestrial hybrids, whether on Earth or elsewhere.

Be it known throughout the Universe that from this time forward, extraterrestrials may only enter our Solar System, approach our Earth, fly in our skies, set foot on our soil, or enter our waters with the explicit consent of the People of Earth.

We, therefore, do solemnly declare that the People of Earth are and should be a free and independent people; that all humans are hereby absolved from all allegiance to extraterrestrial powers, and that all political and economic connections between them and the People of Earth are totally dissolved; that as a free and sovereign race in the Greater Community of the Universe, we assume full power within this Solar System to conclude peace, levy war, contract alliances, establish commerce, and to undertake all other actions which a sovereign planetary race may rightfully and ethically do.

Let it be understood that in making this Declaration of Human Sovereignty, we, the People of Earth, affirm our future and destiny as a free race within a Greater Community of intelligent life. We recognize that we are a part of this Greater Community and that we are destined over time to encounter many different races from beyond our world.

To them and to all others, we hereby declare that our intention is not conquest or domination in space. We declare that the rights and privileges that we affirm here for ourselves, we also affirm for all races of beings whom we might encounter.

In making our Declaration of Human Sovereignty, we proclaim our rights, responsibilities, and privileges as a free race in order that we may pursue greater unity, peace, and cooperation within the human family without unwanted or unwarranted intrusion and interference by any outside nation or force from the Greater Community. We make this proclamation as an expression of our Divine right and honorable intent for the human family and for all races in the Universe who seek to be free.

We the People of the United States of the Solar System, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of the Solar System.

All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States of the Solar System, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives. All Elected Representatives of We the People of the United States of the Solar System shall vote according to the Will of the People as Recorded Daily by Internet Voting. The House of Representatives shall be composed of Members chosen every second Year by the People of the several States, and the Electors in each State shall have the Qualifications requisite for Electors of the most numerous Branch of the State Legislature. No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the Age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United States of the Solar System, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State in which they shall be chosen.

Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers. When vacancies happen in the Representation from any State, the Executive Authority thereof shall issue Writs of Election to fill such Vacancies. The House of Representatives shall choose their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.

The Senate of the United States of the Solar System shall be composed of two Senators from each State, chosen by the Legislature thereof, for six Years; and each Senator shall have one Vote. Immediately after they shall be assembled in Consequence of the first Election, they shall be divided as equally as may be into three Classes. The Seats of the Senators of the first Class shall be vacated at the Expiration of the second Year, of the second Class at the Expiration of the fourth Year, and of the third Class at the Expiration of the sixth Year, so that one third may be chosen every second Year; and if Vacancies happen by Resignation, or otherwise, during the Recess of the Legislature of any State, the Executive thereof may make temporary Appointments until the next Meeting of the Legislature, which shall then fill such Vacancies.

No Person shall be a Senator who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty Years, and been nine Years a Citizen of the United States of the Solar System, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State for which they shall be chosen. The Vice President of the United States of the Solar System shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no Vote, unless they be equally divided. The Senate shall choose their other Officers, and also a President pro tempore, in the absence of the Vice President, or when he shall exercise the Office of President of the United States of the Solar System. The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States of the Solar System is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.

Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States of the Solar System: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.

The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Place of Choosing Senators. The Congress shall assemble at least once in every Year, and such Meeting shall be on the first Monday in December, unless they shall by Law appoint a different Day. Each House shall be the Judge of the Elections, Returns and Qualifications of its own Members, and a Majority of each shall constitute a Quorum to do Business; but a smaller number may adjourn from day to day, and may be authorized to compel the Attendance of absent Members, in such Manner, and under such Penalties as each House may provide.

Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings, punish its Members for disorderly Behavior, and, with the Concurrence of two-thirds, expel a Member. Each House shall keep a Journal of its Proceedings, and from time to time publish the same, excepting such Parts as may in their Judgment require Secrecy; and the Yeas and Nays of the Members of either House on any question shall, at the Desire of one fifth of those Present, be entered on the Journal. Neither House, during the Session of Congress, shall, without the Consent of the other, adjourn for more than three days, nor to any other Place than that in which the two Houses shall be sitting.

The Senators and Representatives shall receive a Compensation for their Services, to be ascertained by Law, and paid out of the Treasury of the United States of the Solar System. They shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place. No Senator or Representative shall, during the Time for which he was elected, be appointed to any civil Office under the Authority of the United States of the Solar System which shall have been created, or the Emoluments whereof shall have been increased during such time; and no Person holding any Office under the United States of the Solar System, shall be a Member of either House during their Continuance in Office.

All bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills. Every Bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it become a Law, be presented to the President of the United States of the Solar System; If they approve they shall sign it, but if not they shall return it, with their Objections to that House in which it shall have originated, who shall enter the Objections at large on their Journal, and proceed to reconsider it. If after such Reconsideration two thirds of that House shall agree to pass the Bill, it shall be sent, together with the Objections, to the other House, by which it shall likewise be reconsidered, and if approved by two thirds of that House, it shall become a Law. But in all such Cases the Votes of both Houses shall be determined by Yeas and Nays, and the Names of the Persons voting for and against the Bill shall be entered on the Journal of each House respectively. If any Bill shall not be returned by the President within ten Days (Sundays excepted) after it shall have been presented to them, the Same shall be a Law, in like Manner as if he had signed it, unless the Congress by their Adjournment prevent its Return, in which Case it shall not be a Law.

Every Order, Resolution, or Vote to which the Concurrence of the Senate and House of Representatives may be necessary (except on a question of Adjournment) shall be presented to the President of the United States of the Solar System; and before the Same shall take Effect, shall be approved by them, or being disapproved by them, shall be repassed by two thirds of the Senate and House of Representatives, according to the Rules and Limitations prescribed in the Case of a Bill.

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States of the Solar System; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States of the Solar System;

To borrow money on the credit of the United States of the Solar System. To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States. To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States of the Solar System. To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures. To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States of the Solar System. To establish Post Offices and Post Roads. To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries. To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court. To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high seas and outer space, and Offenses against the Law of Nations. To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land, Water, and in Space. To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years. To provide and maintain a Navy and a Space Force. To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land, naval, and Space Forces.

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions. To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States of the Solar System, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress. To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States of the Solar System, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings. And to make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States of the Solar System, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the Year one thousand eight hundred and eight, but a tax or duty may be imposed on such Importation, not exceeding ten dollars for each Person.

The privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.

No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed. No capitation, or other direct, Tax shall be laid, unless in Proportion to the Census or Enumeration herein before directed to be taken. No Tax or Duty shall be laid on Articles exported from any State. No Preference shall be given by any Regulation of Commerce or Revenue to the Ports of one State over those of another: nor shall Vessels bound to, or from, one State, be obliged to enter, clear, or pay Duties in another. No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law; and a regular Statement and Account of the Receipts and Expenditures of all public Money shall be published from time to time. No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States of the Solar System: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince or foreign State. No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility. No State shall, without the Consent of the Congress, lay any Imposts or Duties on Imports or Exports, except what may be absolutely necessary for executing its inspection Laws: and the net Produce of all Duties and Imposts, laid by any State on Imports or Exports, shall be for the Use of the Treasury of the United States of the Solar System; and all such Laws shall be subject to the Revision and Control of the Congress. No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.

The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of the Solar System. They shall hold their Office during the Term of four Years, and, together with the Vice-President chosen for the same Term, be elected, as follows:

Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States of the Solar System, shall be appointed an Elector. The Electors shall meet in their respective States, and vote by Ballot for two persons, of whom one at least shall not lie an Inhabitant of the same State with themselves. And they shall make a List of all the Persons voted for, and of the Number of Votes for each; which List they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the Seat of the Government of the United States of the Solar System, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed; and if there be more than one who have such Majority, and have an equal Number of Votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately choose by Ballot one of them for President; and if no Person have a Majority, then from the five highest on the List the said House shall in like Manner choose the President. But in choosing the President, the Votes shall be taken by States, the Representation from each State having one Vote; a quorum for this Purpose shall consist of a Member or Members from two-thirds of the States, and a Majority of all the States shall be necessary to a Choice. In every Case, after the Choice of the President, the Person having the greatest Number of Votes of the Electors shall be the Vice President. But if there should remain two or more who have equal Votes, the Senate shall choose from them by Ballot the Vice-President.

The Congress may determine the Time of choosing the Electors, and the Day on which they shall give their Votes; which Day shall be the same throughout the United States of the Solar System. No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States of the Solar System, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States of the Solar System. In Case of the Removal of the President from Office, or of his Death, Resignation, or Inability to discharge the Powers and Duties of the said Office, the same shall devolve on the Vice President, and the Congress may by Law provide for the Case of Removal, Death, Resignation or Inability, both of the President and Vice President, declaring what Officer shall then act as President, and such Officer shall act accordingly, until the Disability be removed, or a President shall be elected. The President shall, at stated Times, receive for his Services, a Compensation, which shall neither be increased nor diminished during the Period for which he shall have been elected, and he shall not receive within that Period any other Emolument from the United States of the Solar System, or any of them.

Before they enter on the Execution of their Office, they shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States of the Solar System, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of the Solar System."

The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army, Navy, and Space Force of the United States of the Solar System, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States of the Solar System; they may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States of the Solar System, except in Cases of Impeachment. They shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States of the Solar System, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments. The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the End of their next Session. They shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as they shall judge necessary and expedient; they may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, they may adjourn them to such Time as they shall think proper; they shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; they shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States of the Solar System.

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States of the Solar System, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

The judicial Power of the United States of the Solar System, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behavior, and shall, at stated Times, receive for their Services a Compensation which shall not be diminished during their Continuance in Office. The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States of the Solar System, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority; to all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls; to all Cases of admiralty, maritime, and space Jurisdiction; to Controversies to which the United States of the Solar System shall be a Party; to Controversies between two or more States; between a State and Citizens of another State; between Citizens of different States; between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens or Subjects.

In all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and those in which a State shall be Party, the supreme Court shall have original Jurisdiction. In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make. The Trial of all Crimes, except in Cases of Impeachment, shall be by Jury; and such Trial shall be held in the State where the said Crimes shall have been committed; but when not committed within any State, the Trial shall be at such Place or Places as the Congress may by Law have directed. Treason against the United States of the Solar System, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court. The Congress shall have power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.

Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. A Person charged in any State with Treason, Felony, or other Crime, who shall flee from Justice, and be found in another State, shall on demand of the executive Authority of the State from which they fled, be delivered up, to be removed to the State having Jurisdiction of the Crime. No Person held to Service or Labour in one State, under the Laws thereof, escaping into another, shall, in Consequence of any Law or Regulation therein, be discharged from such Service or Labour, But shall be delivered up on Claim of the Party to whom such Service or Labour may be due.

New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new States shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress. The Congress shall have Power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States of the Solar System; and nothing in this Constitution shall be so construed as to Prejudice any Claims of the United States of the Solar System, or of any particular State. The United States of the Solar System shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States of the Solar System and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States of the Solar System.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people to peaceably assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the people or things to be seized.

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against themself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

In Suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any Court of the United States of the Solar System, than according to the rules of the common law.

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

The powers not delegated to the United States of the Solar System by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

The Judicial power of the United States of the Solar System shall not be construed to extend to any suit in law or equity, commenced or prosecuted against one of the United States by Citizens of another State, or by Citizens or Subjects of any Foreign State.

The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the persons voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States of the Solar System, directed to the President of the Senate;

The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;

The person having the greatest Number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in the case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President.

The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no persons have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States of the Solar System.

Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States of the Solar System, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States of the Solar System, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States of the Solar System and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States of the Solar System; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of people in each State. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice-President of the United States of the Solar System, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any citizen of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States of the Solar System, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such citizens shall bear to the whole number of citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States of the Solar System, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States of the Solar System, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

The validity of the public debt of the United States of the Solar System, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States of the Solar System nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States of the Solar System, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.

The right of citizens of the United States of the Solar System to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States of the Solar System or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

The Senate of the United States of the Solar System shall be composed of two Senators from each State, elected by the people thereof, for six years; and each Senator shall have one vote. The electors in each State shall have the qualifications requisite for electors of the most numerous branch of the State legislatures.

When vacancies happen in the representation of any State in the Senate, the executive authority of such State shall issue writs of election to fill such vacancies: Provided, That the legislature of any State may empower the executive thereof to make temporary appointments until the persons fill the vacancies by election as the legislature may direct.

The right of citizens of the United States of the Solar System to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States of the Solar System or by any State on account of sex.

The terms of the President and Vice President shall end at noon on the 20th day of January, and the terms of Senators and Representatives at noon on the 3d day of January, of the years in which such terms would have ended if this article had not been ratified; and the terms of their successors shall then begin.

The Congress shall assemble at least once in every year, and such meeting shall begin at noon on the 3d day of January, unless they shall by law appoint a different day.

If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.

The Congress may by law provide for the case of the death of any of the persons from whom the House of Representatives may choose a President whenever the right of choice shall have devolved upon them, and for the case of the death of any of the persons from whom the Senate may choose a Vice President whenever the right of choice shall have devolved upon them.

No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President, when this Article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this Article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.

The District constituting the seat of Government of the United States of the Solar System shall appoint in such manner as the Congress may direct: A number of electors of President and Vice President equal to the whole number of Senators and Representatives in Congress to which the District would be entitled if it were a State, but in no event more than the least populous State; they shall be in addition to those appointed by the States, but they shall be considered, for the purposes of the election of President and Vice President, to be electors appointed by a State; and they shall meet in the District and perform such duties as provided by the twelfth article of amendment.

The right of citizens of the United States of the Solar System to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States of the Solar System or any State by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax.

In case of the removal of the President from office or of their death or resignation, the Vice President shall become President.

Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.

Whenever the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that they are unable to discharge the powers and duties of their office, and until they transmit to them a written declaration to the contrary, such powers and duties shall be discharged by the Vice President as Acting President.

Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, they shall resume the powers and duties of their office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of their office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of their office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of their office.

The right of citizens of the United States of the Solar System, who are eighteen years of age or older, to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States of the Solar System or by any State on account of age.

No law, varying the compensation for the services of the Senators and Representatives, shall take effect, until an election of Representatives shall have intervened.

There is a problem in Article 1 - Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution. There is a remnant of the slavery era - which really doesn't apply to anything existing today - but should be removed, nonetheless. Here it is in it's original form:

"Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free , including those bound to Service for a Term of Years."

Here is the appropriate modification:

"Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers."

I am making this modification everywhere I can still edit. Obviously, this can't be done in the old Avalon 1 thread - or at the beginning of this thread - where I no longer have access to the 'Guest' portions.

I should have caught this earlier. I really am trying to leave as much of the Constitution, "as is". If one keeps changing things - pretty soon you end up with nothing resembling the original document. I really am aiming for historical continuity. We need to build upon the best which has existed for a significant period of time - and which is currently widely used.

I really am disappointed that no one has discussed the contents of the Founding Documents to any great extent. There were a couple of interesting comments on AV1 regarding constitutional particulars - but that was about all. I really feel as though this world might be in the process of going down hard. We seem to be living in a damn dreamworld - with very little real common-sense. We gawk at aliens and dimensions - yet we can't seem to deal with the most basic components of our civilization. Are we really all that civilized? Do we need a New World Order Theocracy to kick our asses into some semblance of reality? I fear that we are in for a very rude awakening - very soon. We have a brief period of opportunity to avoid a really nasty theocracy. We don't seem to realize how much trouble we're really in. We may have to find out the hard way. Then everyone will probably bitch about why no one told them how bad things really were. This whole mess makes me sicker than anyone can imagine. I want to quit - each and every day. This all seems to be a monumental exercise in futility. Is everyone brain-dead? Is there anyone out there? Anyone at all?

We can bitch about the elites, regressive aliens, and Lucifer - and I've done my fair-share of bashing - but I think most of the blame for our plight should be directed toward ourselves. When I listen to people like Bill Cooper, Alex Collier, Jordan Maxwell, and Alex Jones - I hear them expressing extreme frustration with the ignorance and apathy of the general public. NO ONE WISHES TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANYTHING. WE HAVE MADE IT VERY, VERY EASY FOR THE ELITES, REGRESSIVE ALIENS, AND LUCIFER TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF US. WE HAVE BROUGHT MOST OF THIS MESS UPON OURSELVES.

I don't mean to be shrill - but I said that I was going to become tougher and more focused - and I meant it. I've been way too soft - for way too long. The honeymoon is over! Sometimes I think that Responsible Freedom might have to be Theocratically Imposed - even though this seems to be a Supreme Contradiction. Think about it...

This probably makes the Vatican livid (if they have even read it) - but my 9.5 Theses and Orthodoxymoron Guidestone is sort of a kinder, gentler, minimalist theocracy. I contradict myself everytime I open my mouth! I think I make everyone angry!

9.5 Theses:

1. Replace Canon Law with the Teachings of Jesus.

2. Institute a Modified Latin Mass (with no communion - emphasizing the remembrance of Christ and His Teachings - rather than His Sacrifice) - offering Masses seven days a week - with no preference regarding the day or days of attendance.

3. Base All Homilies, Theology, and Ritual Upon the Teachings of Jesus.

4. Eliminate Penance and Confession (replacing both with psychological and spiritual counseling).

5. Allow Women to be Priests and Popes.

6. Allow Priests to Marry and Popes to Marry (and eliminate all blasphemous titles).

7. Eliminate Most Crucifixes (The bloody, dying, and mostly naked Jesus should not be paraded and displayed. Remove most and clothe most of the rest. Obviously, stained-glass windows, and such, should mostly be left alone).

8. Be Completely Honest Regarding the History of the Church, the World, the Solar System, the Galaxy, and the Universe.

9. Institute a Program of Responsible Reproduction (lifting the ban on birth-control).

9.5. Base Civil and Church Governance on the U.S. Constitution.

ORTHODOXYMORON GUIDESTONE:

1. BASE THIS SOLAR SYSTEM UPON RESPONSIBILITY AND THE U.S. CONSTITUTION.

2. MAINTAIN AN EARTH HUMAN POPULATION OF FOUR BILLION (TWO BILLION SURFACE - TWO BILLION SUBSURFACE) AND FOUR BILLION THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE SOLAR SYSTEM (MOSTLY SUBSURFACE).

3. BASE PHYSICAL, MENTAL, AND SPIRITUAL HEALTH UPON PREVENTION.

4. MAINTAIN A PRISTINE ENVIRONMENT.

5. USE ELECTRICAL POWER FOR NEARLY EVERYTHING, AND UTILIZE MAGNETO-LEVITON TRAINS FOR MOST GLOBAL TRANSPORTATION.

I'm beginning to place a lot of my thinking and conceptualizing, within the walls of the Vatican - even though I have a love/hate relationship with the Roman Catholic Church. I love reading the books by Father Malachi Martin - especially regarding his mixing of politics and religion. He simultaneously supports and attacks the church - which is probably as it should be. One must be both critical and pastoral. The Jesuits scare the hell out of me - but I respect their grasp of what is really going on in this universe. If they had a new boss - I think they would all be just fine. You guys know exactly what I'm talking about! Sometimes I think the gods and goddesses who are found in artwork and sculpture - in and around pyramids, temples, churches, museums, state-houses, concert-halls, cathedrals, etc. - should be viewed as being idealized human beings - who we can all become. There should be a certain robustness and loftiness to the human family. We should all be Pharaohs, Presidents, Emperors, and Pontiffs - and I really do think that Jesus Christ would approve. Some say that Jesus was/is the Archangel Michael, and an Egyptian Pharaoh. Jesus was ROYALTY! Jesus was not some goddamned whimp!



What sort of a Pope might Jesus be? Would Jesus even be a Pope? If Jesus became the Pope - would anyone believe that it was really Jesus? Would people be disappointed? I have speculated that the Queen of Heaven might be the God of This World. If he/she were removed - who might take their place? If it were Jesus - would he remain hidden - due to the reality of deception and unrealistic expectations? Will many people be deceived by a counterfeit second-coming of Christ? This world is in confusion - and I am very apprehensive that 90% of the world population might not be able to properly determine the difference between truth and bs. There are many sincere people, who have believed various things for decades - and they do not wish to become confused by the facts. I suspect that Jesus might remain in the shadows - even if he were placed in charge of the Roman Catholic Church. The reality of divinity might not match-up with any of our expectations. You have no idea how concerned I am about all of this. My roots are conservative Christian - but I have been very rudely awakened and disillusioned. My search for truth has mostly been a solitary journey. Just look at my threads on AV1 and MOA. Some of them might have a lot of views - because I kept bumping them - and commenting on my own threads. But look at the comments - other than my own. There are very few - and most of them do not really engage me intellectually. There are some very notable and commendable exceptions.

Sometimes I think that the only ones who really get what I'm talking about - are what some of us refer to as 'regressives'. Just a feeling, sometimes. They might not be on my side - and they might see me as a threat - because I'm poking and prodding where most mere mortals fear to tread. I continue to think that the real truth will surprise nearly all of us - if we ever 'get it'. I sometimes think that a 'benevolent shadow government' will have to replace a 'malevolent shadow government' - and gradually move humanity in the right direction. I so hope that I'm wrong - but I think we have been screwed-with for so many thousands of years - that we're not going to really get well for hundreds of years - even if this solar system is placed in the very best of hands. I am very troubled tonight. I really don't see a 'happily ever after' scenario materializing anytime soon. What if Michael/Jesus reincarnated as Pharaoh after Pharaoh after Pharaoh - until Michael/Jesus just said 'NO!' to the Annunaki Queen of Heaven / God of This World? What if Jesus got himself crucified - and paraded on crucifixes - while the Annunaki controlled the Roman Emperors and Pontiffs - as Proxy-Christs (in place of Christ - or anti-Christ)? If the Annunaki are removed from this solar system - and Jesus is placed in charge of the Roman Catholic Church - and the Solar System - would anyone believe that such a thing had even occurred? What would it take to convince people? Would this change for the better - really be a change for the better? Would people prefer to continue to be misused, abused, and lied-to? I wonder. It really makes me wonder. I am very depressed. So what am I going to do? I'm going to keep reading 'Windswept House'! O wretched man that I am!

Oxy, Jesus was and still is royalty. His life on earth by his choice was that of a humble man. He led by example so that the poorest individual he came across would know that Jesus was there for him or her too.

No he was not a wimp. He was a learned man who had great courage and changed mens and womens hearts. His message was that he and god were available to everyone and that all were equal and worthy in Gods eyes who loved Jesus and God.

Carol wrote:Oxy, Jesus was and still is royalty. His life on earth by his choice was that of a humble man. He led by example so that the poorest individual he came across would know that Jesus was there for him or her too.

No he was not a wimp. He was a learned man who had great courage and changed mens and womens hearts. His message was that he and god were available to everyone and that all were equal and worthy in Gods eyes who loved Jesus and God.

Thank-you Carol. Forgive my impatience and shrillness. I'm still trying to consider a lot of different possibilities - which might tie a lot of loose-ends together. The humility thing can be used against Jesus, and His followers, by the proud and aggressive - who are very skilled at throwing their weight around - without compassion. I guess I'm considering the possibility that we will all be reincarnating endlessly on Earth - for millions of years into the future - and that we should make a very clean, soft, and comfortable bed to sleep in. I know people who don't think their wonderful bodies, or this beautiful Earth is good enough for them. They are expecting Jesus to appear in the sky, in a glorified-form, surrounded by shining angels - with their dead relatives literally emerging from their graves. Then they expect to leave this Earth for Heaven - while the majority of the human race is exterminated - and Earth is destroyed by fire. Then the Earth is supposed to be recreated into a much better form - and the saved select will return to Earth - and live forever - without dying - and with Jesus reigning as King of Kings and Lord of Lords. The second-coming of Christ has been expected to be just around the corner for 2,000 years - yet the professed followers of Jesus have not reverenced and obeyed the Teachings of Jesus - and they still don't. While they are living in a pie in the sky dreamworld - the world is going to hell around them - and they don't resist this - because it is prophecied in Daniel and Revelation that bad things will happen before Jesus returns to Earth in glory. So, really, the bad things are actually good things - because this means that the second-coming of Christ is imminent. I sincerely hope that no one is disappointed. What if Jesus was here, throughout antiquity, as various versions of Horus or Tammuz? What if he truly became a persona non grata to just about everyone, especially the Annunaki, after His crucifixion - and has been largely ignored for 2,000 years? What if He surfaces presently as a broken and despondant man - who is pretty much disgusted with everyone and everything - is rude, sensual - and even swears? The church would reject Him. Everyone would reject Him. Then, they'd all probably get on 150 mile-long spaceships - destined for Sirius slavery. Once again - I hope everyone is happy - and no one is disappointed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8p1r-JNuAfE Would a serious study of the Archangels and Solar System Governance - in the context of the Vatican - be a productive pursuit? I really don't wish to be a ufo-sighting chaser. I have seen ufo's. I have had supernatural experiences. And I think I may have spoken with those who were more than human - both online and in person. I am more interested in what is behind the phenomenon than I am in sensational observations. Now I'm going to go back to reading my books by Father Malachi Martin. Then I might continue reading 'The Holy Tablets' by Malachi York. Then I will probably read Gerald Massey. A word to the wise...Don't neglect the 'M's'. Damn! I'm late for my exorcist appointment! Too hip! Gotta go! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IwBlWDEQ_Y Take me to your therapist!

Memorable quotes for Sphere (1998) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120184/quotes

Barnes: Ask him for his last name.
Harry: What?
Barnes: I want a full name for my report. I'm not putting in my report that I lost a crew member on a deep-sat expedition to find an alien named "Jerry."

Barnes: If this translation is right this alien sounds like an idiot.
Beth: That's something to consider - a stupid alien. Well, they must have them.

Beth: Is there heat coming off this thing or is it just happy to see me?

Interviewer: I see you have a scar on your neck.
Beth: Car accident.
Interviewer: Were you drinking?
Beth: Yeah - but I wasn't driving.

Harry: Are you a religious man, Norman?
Norman Goodman: Atheist, but I'm flexible.

Harry: So that's what the little green men are saying now? "Take me to your therapist"?

Harry: Whatever it is, it was inside the Sphere. Now it's out, free to act.

Norman Goodman: I would be happy if Jerry had no emotions whatsoever. Because the thing of it is once you go down that road... here's Jerry, an emotional being cooped up for 300 years with no one to talk to... none of the socialization, the emotional growth that comes from contact with other emotional beings...
Harry: So...?
Norman Goodman: What happens if Jerry gets mad?

Barnes: Oh, you are a hell of a woman. I wish I knew you in the old days. Norman told me you were...
Beth: [defensive] Norman told you what?
Barnes: Let's put it this way - that if Jerry could read your mind, he'd be bored with ours!

Beth: Are you telling me that by Harry going into the Sphere, he now has the power to manifest his dreams, his fantasies.
Norman Goodman: MANIFEST! MANIFEST! He made it happen. It's not that different from a child. A child imagines something that believes its real and its not there, but with Harry, He not only makes it real from himself, he makes real for all of us.

Harry: [sympathetically] Are you afraid of dying, Norman?

Harry: See? It's not impossible - it's ridiculous.

Harry: [quoting "Jerry"] "I make a journey. You make a journey. We make a journey together."
Beth: I think Jerry's channeling Deepak Chopra.

Harry: I forgive you, Norman. I forgive you! But I *don't* forgive you for Ted - he's a pain in the XXX.

[the group is breathing helium]
Dr. Ted Fielding: [high pitched voice] Oxygen is a corrosive gas, in the same family as fluorine and chlorine - hydrochloric acid, hydrofluoric acid. That's why we're breathing helium down here, because oxygen at any level higher than 2.3 becomes toxic.
Norman Goodman: [high pitched voice] Can you run that by me again, Ted? I don't speak balloon.

Norman Goodman: What is it, Harry?
Dr. Harry Adams: Take a look. It's chipped!
Captain Harold C. Barnes: Alright, it's chipped - so what?
Dr. Harry Adams: Well I thought you said this thing wouldn't damage when it crashed and that this titanium alloy was so superstrong there's no way you can hurt it.
Captain Harold C. Barnes: I did.
Dr. Harry Adams: So how come it chips when this scientist just bangs on it with a hammer?

Dr. Harry Adams: Anybody else wonder who the hell opened that door?

Dr. Ted Fielding: We come in peace. Hm - I always wanted to say that.

Norman Goodman: What the hell is it?
Captain Harold C. Barnes: Whatever it is - it seems to be what this bird was designed to do. Go out in the space and gather things like this up and bring it back.
Norman Goodman: Yeah, but back from where?
Dr. Harry Adams: Don't get too excited, Ted - turn this thing over and it'll probably say 'Made in Korea'

Dr. Harry Adams: We're all gonna die down here.
Norman Goodman: What?
Dr. Harry Adams: You see? It's curious. Ted did figure it out - time travel. And when we get back, we gonna tell everyone. How it's possible, how it's done, what the dangers are. But then why fifty years in the future when the spacecraft encounters a black hole does the computer call it an 'unknown entry event'? Why don't they know? If they don't know, that means we never told anyone. And if we never told anyone it means we never made it back. Hence we die down here. Just as a matter of deductive logic.

Captain Harold C. Barnes: Break out your five-day deodorant pads - we're here for the duration.

Dr. Harry Adams: I'm not choking, you Xxxxxxx! I hate squid!

Dr. Ted Fielding: Harry!
Norman Goodman: Harry.
Dr. Ted Fielding: 19! Wunderkind!

Captain Harold C. Barnes: If the habitat is full of water, you'll be dead!

Dr. Harry Adams: Calling Dr. Halperine... Dr. Beth Halperine... Please return to reality.

Alice 'Teeny' Fletcher: They're stingin' me through my suit!

Beth: I wanted to thank you for saving my life.
Norman Goodman: ...An interesting life to save...

[last lines]
Norman Goodman: Why are you holding my hand?
Harry: YOU'RE holding MY hand.

Harry: Follow the yellow brick road.

Norman Goodman: ['Jerry' types on the screen "I WANT TO TALK TO TED"] You can't Jerry he's dead.
Norman Goodman: ['Jerry' types on the screen "I WANT TO TALK TO BARNES"] You can't talk to him either Barnes is dead too.
Norman Goodman: ['Jerry' types on the screen "I WANT TO TALK TO THEM NOW!"] You can't Jerry they're dead you killed them

Norman Goodman: ['Jerry' types on the screen "I WILL KILL YOU!"] No Jerry don't do that.

Norman Goodman: Can I ask you something about this reflective surface?
Barnes: Yeah, it appears to be mercury, doesn't it? Except mercury is liquid at this temperature.
Norman Goodman: Oh, no. That's not what I'm talking about. What worries me is that it's reflecting everything but us.

Dr. Harry Adams: Where's Teeny? I thought she did all the cooking around here.
Captain Harold C. Barnes: She had an unfortunate accident Harry, she was killed.
Dr. Harry Adams: Killed? how?
Captain Harold C. Barnes: Jellyfish.
Dr. Harry Adams: Jellyfish? That's strange.
Captain Harold C. Barnes: Yes that is strange isn't it.

Go to that still quiet place within and there you will find him as he is indwelling once he has been invited into your heart.


By the way, the picture o Miller's second coming is hysterical.

Carol wrote:Go to that still quiet place within and there you will find him as he is indwelling once he has been invited into your heart.

By the way, the picture of Millar's second coming is hysterical.

Thank-you Carol. The indwelling Christ brings me both peace and a sword. In a world of evil and contradictions - one should not be too content. Christ in you - the hope of glory. What if Jesus turns out to be a lot like Millar? I think Jesus would be comfortable and competent in both formal and informal situations. Indeed - a combination of the royal and servant models of leadership. But it might take a couple of lifetimes for Jesus to really get used to being listened to! One gets sort of rusty and bitter - when they are disenfranchised and out of power - for thousands of years. Once again - I am not shaking my fist at the Creator God of the Universe. I am simply shaking. I don't have a problem having a Genuinely Benevolent Divinity at the Center of Solar System Governance - but I do have a problem with malevolent charlatans who use God's Name in vain. My guess is that Jesus would serve as a low-key, yet very powerful, authority of last resort - in a Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom United States of the Solar System. Forgive me if I am wrong about this speculation. Once again - I don't know the whole story. I continue to fly-blind - yet I am supposed to make important decisions. This really doesn't seem fair. What's really going on here? Check this out. It might be later than we think. https://www.youtube.com/user/UFOTVstudios#p/u/0/NFzvrCa-j10

Who would be the winners and the losers in a Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom United States of the Solar System? I'd like to think that everyone would be a winner over the long haul. There might seem to be a stratification of winners and losers in the short term - but I think things would even out - long term. All of the ancient Star Wars, Masters of the Universe, Hybridization, and Technology issues would obviously have to be resolved. They could not just be swept under the rug - so to speak. How might all of this be peacefully resolved - without the erruption of brand-new Star Wars? The forces and hatred in this universe might be deeper and more powerful than we can possibly imagine. I intend to pursue a peaceful solution by promoting the spirit and letter of this thread. I am presently reading 'The Art of War' by Sun Tzu. I intend to win without fighting. I will attempt to be a Peaceful Intellectual General. The gloves are coming off - and I will be much more aggressive in the promotion of Responsible Freedom. The regressives won't know what hit them. It will be over before it starts. In fact - it might already be a fait accompli or a cou de gras or a never mind...Q.E.D.


Jesus is Coming Soon...Or Perhaps He Never Left.
1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyIxSC5QZ-E&feature=related
2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27TjqzU--vs

Pleiades (Greek mythology)From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleiades_(Greek_mythology)
This article is about Greek mythology. The Pleiades star cluster also appears in many other mythologies.

The Pleiades (pronounced /ˈplaɪ.ədiːz/, also /ˈpliːədiːz/; from the Greek Πλειάδες [pleːˈades], Modern [pliˈaðes]), companions of Artemis, were the seven daughters of the titan Atlas and the sea-nymph Pleione born on Mount Cyllene. They are the sisters of Calypso, Hyas, the Hyades, and the Hesperides. The Pleiades were nymphs in the train of Artemis, and together with the seven Hyades were called the Atlantides, Dodonides, or Nysiades, nursemaids and teachers to the infant Bacchus.

There is some debate as to the origin of the name Pleiades. Previously, it was accepted the name is derived from the name of their mother, Pleione. However, the name Pleiades may derive from πλεῖν (to sail) because of their importance in delimiting the sailing season in the Mediterranean Sea.

Several of the most prominent male Olympian gods (including Zeus, Poseidon, and Ares) engaged in affairs with the seven heavenly sisters. These relationships resulted in the birth of their children.

Maia, eldest of the seven Pleiades, was mother of Hermes by Zeus.
Electra was mother of Dardanus and Iasion by Zeus.
Taygete was mother of Lacedaemon, also by Zeus.
Alcyone was mother of Hyrieus by Poseidon.
Celaeno was mother of Lycus and Eurypylus by Poseidon.
Sterope (also Asterope) was mother of Oenomaus by Ares.
Merope, youngest of the seven Pleiades, was wooed by Orion. In other mythic contexts she married Sisyphus and, becoming mortal, faded away. She bore to Sisyphus several sons.

After Atlas was forced to carry the heavens on his shoulders, Orion began to pursue all of the Pleiades, and Zeus transformed them first into doves, and then into stars to comfort their father. The constellation of Orion is said to still pursue them across the night sky. One of the most memorable myths involving the Pleiades is the story of how these sisters literally became stars, their catasterism. According to some versions of the tale, all seven sisters committed suicide because they were so saddened by either the fate of their father, Atlas, or the loss of their siblings, the Hyades. In turn Zeus, the ruler of the Greek gods, immortalized the sisters by placing them in the sky. There these seven stars formed the constellation known thereafter as the Pleiades.

The Greek poet Hesiod mentions the Pleiades several times in his Works and Days. As the Pleiades are primarily winter stars, they feature prominently in the ancient agricultural calendar. Here is a bit of advice from Hesiod:

"And if longing seizes you for sailing the stormy seas,
when the Pleiades flee mighty Orion
and plunge into the misty deep
and all the gusty winds are raging,
then do not keep your ship on the wine-dark sea
but, as I bid you, remember to work the land."
(Works and Days 618-23)

The Pleiades would "flee mighty Orion and plunge into the misty deep" as they set in the West, which they would begin to do just before dawn during October–November, a good time of the year to lay up your ship after the fine summer weather and "remember to work the land"; in Mediterranean agriculture autumn is the time to plough and sow.

The poet Lord Tennyson mentions the Pleiades in his poem Locksley Hall:

"Many a night I saw the Pleiads, rising through the mellow shade,
Glitter like a swarm of fire-flies tangled in a silver braid."

Good evening fellow solar system citizens.

I like the general direction of this thread, yet I think that others will perfect the general idea. This really is only the beginning. It's sort of fun to brainstorm - but this approach does have it's limitations. I don't like to keep repeating things - yet this is how learning takes place. Sometimes, to undo - one must overdo. Again - I don't know what the true state of affairs really are. I don't know how close to the edge I really am. I don't know how close to the edge, the human race really is. I don't feel well and happy, at all. I keep trying to break through into the sunshine - yet it never quite happens. This is sort of a sad road - despite my attempted idealism. I continue to think that this thread is more of a study-guide, than anything else. It's not so much what I think. It's what YOU think as YOU watch the links, read my comments, and the comments of others. This thread jumps around a lot. At times it is whining and shrill (probably most of the time). I really don't know when I am helping, and when I am hurting. I don't know when I go too far - or not far enough. I have no idea. I just feel compelled to try to keep dealing with all of this - even though it never really seems to help - me, or anyone else - despite the occasional encouragement. I suspect that if everything went in the direction of this thread, that I still wouldn't be happy. I'd find something else to complain and crusade about. I keep feeling like I can never, ever be happy. Something will always be majorly wrong. I just watched tonight's episode of 'V' - and I had mixed feelings. I appreciate the down to earth sci-fi - which touches upon some of the things I have been researching - but so much of the show has been Hollywood arguing and violence as usual. When I watched the previews for other shows, during the commercial breaks, it was mostly irresponsible sex and gratuitous violence. There are so many put-downs and sarcastic comments. It all really made me sick tonight. I watch very little television. I bought my little TV just so I could watch 'V' - and that's about all I have watched. I doubt that the Powers That Be are concerned about social unrest and violence. If they were - they would eliminate 90% of the arguing and violence in motion pictures and television programs. The truth is - they don't give a damn. They want us to fight with each other. They want us to fight with them. Then they can really crack down on us. They listen to our phone-calls. They search our homes, without warrants. Our lives are open books - for our protection - of course. Well - get rid of 90% of irresponsible sex and gratutitous violence from ALL media outlets if you bastards are worried about our world going to hell. Oh - I forgot - you don't give a damn. Do you? So, there is a bit of Bertrand Russell's 'unyielding despair' in all of this. I really suspect that this thing might be more about survival, than anything else. But I would like to live in a kinder and gentler purgatory! Does that sound too harsh and ungrateful for the present world situation? I'm trying to simultaneously be a realist and an idealist. I don't wish to create false-hopes or make false-promises. I see a difficult future for humanity in this solar system. I have no clue what the situation might be for various 'spiritual' beings and 'alien' races. I truly see through a glass darkly. But I truly desire that things work out well for everyone - progressive and regressive - human and otherwise. We all need to be free - responsibly.

Good night. God bless you. And God bless the United States --- of the Solar System.

I hate to be repetitious - but I am really liking reading books by Father Malachi Martin - while listening to Latin Masses. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enWiFcsBqIE There is something really cool about the geopolitical intrigue of the Roman Catholic Church. I just wish they could eliminate all of the creepy and corrupt aspects. That part I hate. But really - politics is religion - and religion is politics. I obviously desire sweeping reforms in the church - so the Martin books really have my attention. They make me realize how little I know about a lot of things. I also like listening to people like Jordan Maxwell and Alex Collier - who have Roman Catholic backgrounds. I don't think people should sell-out to the system - but I don't think they should ignore it, either. Be very careful if you read 'Hostage to the Devil'. Possession is possible - just by reading the book. You wouldn't believe who told me that. I just have to keep thinking lofty thoughts regarding what an ideal church might be like. I think there are literally tens of millions of church reformers around the world. I think this is a worthy cause - but even if the church were ideal - people would still try to reform it! I also have to keep thinking about what an ideal church/state situation might be - regarding solar system governance. I realize that this is a hugely problematic area of study - but I do think that it needs to be carefully and prayerfully addressed. The consequences of getting it wrong are beyond comprehension. This thread is a laboratory for this sort of thing. We really do have to keep considering all of the possibilities - all of the time. We seem to be in Purgatory - and on the brink of Heaven or Hell. What if a Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom United States of the Solar System were centered in Vatican City? Now wouldn't that be a hornet's nest?????!!!!!! What if Rome fully embraced this thread - in letter and spirit??????!!!!! As outrageous as this sounds - I am finding myself conceptualizing such a possibility!!!!!! The smoke is just pouring out of my ears!!!!! I need to take a nice break - and pull my hair out!!!!!!! Then I'll read posts 372 and 373 outloud - one more time. They consist of the Condensed Founding Documents, 9.5 Theses, Orthodoxymoron Guidestone, Sermon on the Mount, and King Speech Rewrite. I'm going to read them outloud every single day - as a mental and spiritual exercise. It's AMAZING what one thinks of, while doing this little exercise!! It gets easier and more productive - each time you recite these posts!! Try listening to a Latin Mass while doing this! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enWiFcsBqIE What if there were 2,000 USSS representatives in Vatican City, 2,000 USSS representatives at St. Mary's Cathedral in San Francisco, 2,000 USSS representatives in the City of London, 2,000 USSS representatives in Washington D.C., and 2,000 USSS representatives on the USSS Namaste (mobile meeting place - formerly known as Phobos)????!!!! These possibilities are really just arbitrary. What about locations in China, Russia, the Middle East, Australia, Africa, South America, Venus, Mars, etc? Perhaps the whole thing could be electronic - with no physical presence at all. I really need feedback on all of this - both pro and con. This is a continuing experiment. Now I need to get back to pulling my hair out!!!!! You ET's, UN, and City-State people must HATE me with a passion!!! Maybe you would all like to join me in a minute of silence - and pull your hair out too!!!!!!! What would the Nibiruans say? I still don't know what's really going on - but I am trying to consider what might be some positive next steps for Earth Humanity. I suspect quite a horrible secret past - but I certainly don't know the particulars. I also suspect that quite a few top-level Roman Catholics know exactly what is going on in this universe - but they are obviously not at liberty to blurt-out the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. If they did that - God probably wouldn't even be able to help them. Here is a positive and interesting look at the Vatican. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Svaxr4erV_Q&feature=fvwrel