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    Post  Floyd Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:39 am

    In what sense do you think Buddhist philosophy has been corrupted? Im not sure I understand what you mean exactly by people waving back and forth from them.

    The last comment about ontological contentedness is really a reference to the fact that much of the paraphernalia dvd's courses, conferences, radio shows, podcasts and what have you's in the conspiracy world don't really lead us anywhere. Filling ones head with all this stuff wont make them any happier in life, perhaps more miserable.

    Often they serve only to confuse.

    I think keeping things nice and simple is the best insurance policy against the deceivers.
    Or at least to be extremely cautious because of course having your mind too open is simply another expression for gullibility and that is the territory where the publishing companies make their money and the misinformants spread their lies like jam.

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    Post  magamud Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:55 pm

    In what sense do you think Buddhist philosophy has been corrupted?
    In short primarily the same way the jesus religion has been corrupted with a savior complex. The buddhist believe in the No mind aspects or emptiness. I believe this is a step to understanding consciousness but it winds up being a plateau in thought that many do not go beyond, they become stagnant. And they dont think beyond because they have an entire Empire of resources to keep them there. I often wonder why it is that Buddhism does not get the same scrutiny as all the other religions get. Is it because they are so peaceful? In another sense I believe the Devil loves the idea that people think everything is Empty as he would never be found out. I believe the Monarchs support this ideology with great fervor. Im more then welcome to try and tease it out further.

    Im not sure I understand what you mean exactly by people waving back and forth from them.
    There are many who grow up with the corrupted Jesus then move to Buddhism. I believe the Monarchs counterintelligence support these ideas to capture people in a dialectic. Much like they do with Republicans and Democrats. This also goes into the various other gnostic ideas and possibly even other more established religions like Jehova witness. In other words they flood the information portal to disrupt people ability to just sit and think on the nature of reality and also to the limit the ability for them to think for themselves.

    conspiracy world don't really lead us anywhere.
    I agree, i think the dialectic applies in this area to create loops in thinking. I do believe most people are just moving in circles and not really going anywhere, but of course they think they are. To take something positive from it, i think its progress to think esoterically or pragmatically.

    Filling ones head with all this stuff wont make them any happier in life, perhaps more miserable.
    I agree, we dont know the nature of our existence so we are just reaching for platforms to rest our feet. No rest for the wicked....

    Often they serve only to confuse.
    Indeed, but the nature of man is exploration, so its inevitable.
    Moderationn in all things.

    I think keeping things nice and simple is the best insurance policy against the deceivers
    Yes for those who over complicate this is true, but on the other hand it could promote apathy.

    Money appears to ruin much...
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    Post  Carol Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:31 pm

    Floyd wrote:
    Carol wrote:

    Recently, I was reading again about how others wish to manipulate the world population into a one-world religion utilizing a staged event that supposed would involve the 2nd coming of Christ. Then I read where one contactee suggested the Bible was written by the illuminate who may now be manipulating events to fulfill their agenda for a one-world government and one-world religion. If successful - this is a pickle on multiple levels for those who cling to their beliefs and don't wish to change. And a one-world religion could also be a form of mind-control enslavement. It's easy enough to see how some who wish to control others would push for a one-world religion. Hence, my subsequent abandonment of all religions. I just can't excited about rituals any more other then weddings. Those are fun.

    I think the idea that a one world religion is being touted is mostly based on flimsy foundations and third rate poorly researched youtube videos posted by non academics and religious zealots. To look for the answers to that we have to examine closely, the religions and beliefs where this 'new religion' is allegedly being fermented. The New Age.

    Now, the first thing to understand is that there is no such thing as a New Age Religion.

    A good place to start is with Hinduism. people are under the misconception that Hinduism is one religion when it is not. In fact it is far from it. The systems that are grouped under, 'the religions of the Indus' can vary between atheism,(Samkya)devotional deism (various) and almost Buddhism (Advaita Vedanta)It is an error to perceive of Hinduism as being one religion just as it is an error to view the 'New Age Movement as being one cohesive religion with an agenda.

    Like Hinduism, the 'New Age Movement' is an umbrella term for many differing beliefs ranging from religious syncreticism,Sufism,Spiritualist,occultism, pagan religions,witchcraft,UFO cults,alienism,ascensionism,apocalyptic religions,psychological and self improvement cults and so on. It is often the case that many of these belief systems are opposed and even fractious and more often than not they disagree on a great many thing.

    It would be useful to remember that there has been a large amount of negative propaganda imitated against groups like the Theosophical society and Alice Bailey's organisation by the catholic church and Judeo Christian religion in general. The reason for that is because of the criticisms by such groups on organised religion and the anthropomorphism of Judaism and Christianity coupled with their efforts to introduce the spiritual and philosophical systems of Eastern schools into western consciousness.

    The return of the Christ, messiah or world teacher comes not only from theosophical traditions but also from Shia Islam, some Buddhist schools, christianity and Judaism.
    It should be noted that Alice Baileys Lucis trust is denounced by some theosophiphical groups who themselves suffered humiliation over the introduction of Krishnamurti as the World Teacher. So you see there is really not one group saying the same thing. It is practically non existent and to such otherwise is incorrect.

    The reality of the situation is the influence of Theosophical Societies and the Lucis Trust is waning. Their membership is elderly and the funds which once used to roll in from wealthy female benefactors have dried up. I understand that the Lucis Trust and its elderly membership are in financial crisis and that outdated esoteric societies have now been replaced by modern groups ranging from UFO Cults (adamski, Pelley. Williamson, Aetherius, Clow Starr etc) to the slick self empowerment psychological and religious groups and writers that have taken their Theosophical influences and developed their own themes, not to mention the countless ascended master groups all of whom are denounced by the TS such as the right wing fronts of Ballards I AM Movement and Claire Prophet's Buddha UFO esoteric Christianity mish mash, CUT

    For me alienist religions are just as daft as Baileys esoteric rambling. There are many parallels between channelers, contactees, aliens and masters. I would go as far to say its the same thing, different archetypes. None of it is particularly useful.

    So there is no new age movement and they are bickering with each other, one master said this, one alien said that ad infinitum, pretty much like main stream religions.
    On closer examination you will find that whilst much of the above groups are self indulgent and deeply flawed there is also a lot of propaganda built up against them because they go against the strand of Judeo Christianity. Some of the groups, neath the new age umbrella deserve all the criticism they get,and they involve the far right groups who put bastardised theosophy,arisophy,armenism,ufoism,alienism,fascism and pseudo scientific theories on race into a big bowl and give it a big stir. They dont take to criticism kindly either.

    Bluebeam is nonsense and is most definitely a hoax along with the myriad XXXX and bull stories prevelant over the internet and that have been put out over the decades.

    It is no different from mainstream religion Carol. Entrenching oneself in any belief system is the first mistake one can make.


    There is just so much BS about.

    Like the concrete spaceship for example. It did bring the exploration team lots of publicity though. Job done.



    Sorry Floyd but you built your hypothesis on facts that are false. Project Blue Beam technology exists. What is done with it is anyone's guess.

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    I'm also aware that Project BlueBook existed because the person who was working on that articular Project vacationed at my parents place. In addition, my parents were witness to a UFO which hovered over the lake at night for an hour - right next to their home. It wasn't just some fly by sighting but instead an extended stay.

    Perhaps it would be worth your while to consider that some of us have life experience that exceeds your parameters of knowledge.

    I'm currently not wedded to any particular belief system (religious or otherwise other then thinking the 10 Commandments are worth following - along with the US Constitution), which is why I said I've abandoned religion as it just doesn't work for me. However, I prefer the scientific method when it comes to spiritual growth and development, which was my original attraction to, and practice of Astanga Yoga before you were even born. But that's another story. And due to my own long history and personal spiritual experience with Christ, I accept Christ as a fundamental part of my personal reality.

    Furthermore, having spent quite a bit of time with a variety of spiritual masters the best suggestion out there I can recommend is don't knock it until you've tried it.

    And from all the Buddhists that I know (including family members) none of them view the Buddha as a savior. Instead they view him as a spiritual teacher with a scientific method, if followed, allowed practioners to have similar spiritual 'frequency' experiences. Buddhism is a peaceful way of life as is Sant Mat. The goal is to still the monkey mind so that one can experience spiritual enlightenment on ones own through personal effort.



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    Post  magamud Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:03 pm

    Well said Carol.....
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    Post  orthodoxymoron Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:17 pm

    I am somewhat fundamentalist and somewhat fickle. Just settling on a system (political and/or religious) and then circling the wagons in preparation for a fight -- really doesn't cut it with me. I'm leaning toward Political and Theological Science-Fiction as a sort of Neo Situation Ethics. What Would Joseph Fletcher and James Pike Say??? The Decalogue in the context of the Pentateuch, the Gospels, and the Epistles -- is an interesting study. I'm just going to keep modeling solar system governance -- as a way of dealing with all of this. My answers are both simple and complex. I'm trying to do more research, and less posting -- but I just keep wandering and rambling.
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    Post  mudra Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:22 pm

    Floyd wrote:
    Or at least to be extremely cautious because of course having your mind too open is simply another expression for gullibility and that is the territory where the publishing companies make their money and the misinformants spread their lies like jam.


    When extremes meet like this an opportunity opens to find balance.

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    Post  magamud Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:16 pm

    It's being in a state of anything is possible, to nothing is happening. The truth of the moment guides us.
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    Post  Floyd Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:18 am

    Carol wrote:
    Perhaps it would be worth your while to consider that some of us have life experience that exceeds your parameters of knowledge.

    I could say exactly the same thing about you or anybody else. Just opinions and ones own experiences thats all. I wouldnt be egotistical enough to say my own experiences exceeded anothers though. Opinions are something else and are just that.


    Carol wrote:
    Furthermore, having spent quite a bit of time with a variety of spiritual masters the best suggestion out there I can recommend is don't knock it until you've tried it.

    Im not knocking anything I was just casting doubt on operation bluebeam and saying that there is no such thing as one New Age Religion because there is not. It doesnt exist. However I have spent many years studying religious cults and new religious movements. I dont think it is necessary to try something to fully understand it (although I have spent time with certain groups as part of my study)and I do have a certain amount of objectivity on the subject.
    It is on the basis that there is no New Age Religion, apart from the one touted by factually inaccurate conspiracy theorists and propaganda from established religions, that it follows there can be no such thing as Project Bluebeam. (One should remember that the numbers of people involved in the various religions that are lumped together as the 'new age movement' are really very small and frankly insignificant compared to the major religions.

    Another view on the invalidity of bluebeam is provided below.
    http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Project_Blue_Beam

    Carol wrote:

    And from all the Buddhists that I know (including family members) none of them view the Buddha as a savior.


    That's quite correct he is not but Maitreya is the Coming Buddha. The hidden Imam is the Shia Muslim version

    Carol wrote:

    Buddhism is a peaceful way of life as is Sant Mat. The goal is to still the monkey mind so that one can experience spiritual enlightenment on ones own through personal effort.


    Years ago I went to a Sant Mat darshan a couple of times and met this really nice family. They are really into healthy living and made me some fine freshly squeezed apple juice.


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    Post  Floyd Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:56 am

    magamud wrote:
    In what sense do you think Buddhist philosophy has been corrupted?

    There are many who grow up with the corrupted Jesus then move to Buddhism. I believe the Monarchs counterintelligence support these ideas to capture people in a dialectic.

    Money appears to ruin much...

    I think the numbers who move from Christianity to Buddhism are quite small in the grand scheme of things.
    The Buddhist groups in the west that people may join or find appealing do vary.

    As far as cults or new religious movements (and some Buddhist groups in the west are closer to new religious movements than its traditional parent) go, a significant number of people who join them are from Jewish or Roman Catholic backgrounds, (hence the antipathy and aggression of both those religions to the so called new age movement and their active involvement in the anti cult movement.

    The numbers are small though and membership is often fleeting and lasts no more than a few months to few years in most cases.

    Im not surprised that the idea of anthropomorphism became unappealing to them.

    Generally speaking most people stay in their own religions or become lapsed or indifferent.
    I dont think that there exists much dialectic between Christianity and Buddhism therefore apart from a relativity small number of experimenters.

    Yes the conspiracy culture and new religions are very big business indeed. They are like fly sheets that attract con men and women from far and wide.
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    Post  Micjer Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:54 am




    Richard Hoagland on C2C


    He may be a bit full of hot air, but does have some interesting information.
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    Post  magamud Wed Jun 27, 2012 3:30 pm

    Nobel winner warns that the US government will fake an alien invasion. 5:55

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_svKGITRSQ&list=UUDILoNT7dzVgpes7JiTjR7g&index=1&feature=plcp
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    Post  Jenetta Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:48 pm

    All the interviews to do with this search are at "the horse's mouth".

    http://www.oceanexplorer.se/

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    Post  mudra Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:17 pm

    Red Ice Radio - Peter Lindberg - The Mysterious Baltic Sea Object

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALfecIha1xk


    Also updated on Jenetta's link

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