Gulf Oil Platform Explosion and Spill

Trancesco - Your are sooo right
for you Mudra

metaw3 wrote:
The conspiracy crowd never made any follow up on this story, but the locals there investigated and found their answer. It happened just once overnight in a delimited area, and it was most likely not related to the Gulf Oil disaster. However, it's a good example of damage from petroleum falling from the sky, because that's what happened: thousands of gallons of fuel were dumped from a plane. Note the amateur spokesman from FedEx. Still learning the art of getting away with stuff...

FedEx Plane Possibly Behind Mystery Crop Damage:

http://www.wreg.com/news/wreg-crop-damage-investigation,0,2382601.story

Thanks for this information metaw that gives new light to my post 792.
I should have stressed that despite their title none of the other vids I posted there re the crop damage proove that this is related to toxic rain coming from the oil spill or Corexit .
It just happen that this is appearing now in areas that are close to the Gulf .
Further investigations will be needed to find the exact cause of the damage .
It is tempting of course to make a relation between the two.

Love from me
mudra

tacodog wrote:Trancesco - Your are sooo right
for you Mudra

Taco you are very sweet .
This thread would'nt be what it is without all of you .
I feel blessed to be amongst you .

Love for You


mudra

Regarding the crop damage from a FedEx plane: I can understand that it would be caused in one instance. However, the crop damage is being reported from N. Carolina through Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, and Texas. Can't blame FedEx for all of it...can we? I now have exactly the same white spots and holes in my plants...doesn't matter which type, hibiscus, tomato, geranium, or avocado. Same small holes, same light spots. Now, my plants are not nearly as damaged as you see in the videos from S. Georgia or other places. Tell ya what, I'm watching closely now. I also took "before" photos several weeks ago. I will most definitely be looking out for evidence. Linda p.s., Mudra: you have no idea how much we appreciate your diligence and discernment in reporting. We really love you.

lindabaker wrote:Regarding the crop damage from a FedEx plane: I can understand that it would be caused in one instance. However, the crop damage is being reported from N. Carolina through Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, and Texas. Can't blame FedEx for all of it...can we? I now have exactly the same white spots and holes in my plants...doesn't matter which type, hibiscus, tomato, geranium, or avocado. Same small holes, same light spots. Now, my plants are not nearly as damaged as you see in the videos from S. Georgia or other places. Tell ya what, I'm watching closely now. I also took "before" photos several weeks ago. I will most definitely be looking out for evidence. Linda p.s., Mudra: you have no idea how much we appreciate your diligence and discernment in reporting. We really love you.

Linda I love you too dear .
These are sad news regarding your plants and the air you breathe.
Please go over post 616. It would be good you do the experiment outlined there and report on that .
Have you got anywhere to go would you choose to move ?

Take care


Love for You
mudra

Mudra: I have been following this thread daily. I remember that the poster with the contaminated water saw the terrible results of his cat who drank the water...cats are sensitive and would be subject to illness before humans would be. Did his cat survive? Because I have two "rescue" cats who live indoors and outdoors, they would be subject to the same danger. So, I'm hesitating on that one. I do have a family farm way up North, thank goodness. My scorpio psychic brother and mother are begging, begging us to come North. I am pulling out suitcases in readiness if I should choose to go. Whatever is to be done about transporting cats, the dog, and family member who refuses to go? Not naming any names, but he is a male and doesn't read the forums...he says he would rather stay and die Not me! I'll leave if I have to, and soon.

On another forum which shall remain nameless as well, there is a creepy video about the solar eclipse over the Gulf on Sunday...and the illuminati and their plans to use HAARP to create an earthquake. I don't want to be alarmed as I do not know the reputation of these people. I won't even provide a link unless someone is interested. The video is posted by someone who also shows how NOAA weather service has removed the tsumani alert info. for the US for "security reasons." It's getting crazier by the moment...

Dear Linda,

What your heart tells you you must follow ..
I hope your companion comes to his senses .
Maybe if one of you has the courage to take action
the other will follow .
Monkey fitser's cat survived after going to the vet.
Don't fall into the scary speculations that are circling
around.
Within you is all you need to really know .
Stay safe .

Much Love for You

mudra

So Linda are you talking about this:
http://www.morningliberty.com/2010/07/05/armageddon-july-11-brian-leonard-golightly-marshall/
and this:
http://www.weather.gov/ptwc/index.php?region=0

For the weather.gov site I can confirm that there is nothing to worry about. It's just a link that doesn't work probably because nobody cares to make it work. Here is where you would normally be taken when clicking on the NA part of the map if it worked:
http://wcatwc.arh.noaa.gov/events/eventmap.php

As for Operation Deep Sleep, well... it's just the same old gang waiting for Aramgeddon. Everything is a sign to them.

With that said, superstition aside, it's a hole in the Earth leaking toxic gas and oil into the ocean near millions of people. And it's not plugged yet! It's damn serious, and wise assuming that as long as it's not plugged, something big and sudden might be happening at anytime down there. Whatever that something might be, if it gets millions of people to wake up and to want to get the hell out of there, I wouldn't want to be stuck in that crowd.

If nothing big happens and even if the leak is plugged tomorrow, life quality near the Gulf, where fishing and tourism are integral to the economy, is going to decline faster than everywhere else. It can't be ignored and denied. So if you seek quality of life and like to plan in advance, you might as well move now and as a bonus avoid a tsunami.

2 news James Fox and an old funny one that I didn't get when it came out but now I do

In the first one, James is talking on the phone with a lab technician who just analyzed water samples from the Gulf that James sent him. The lab technician confirms 150 times the level of Corexit that is known to kill fish.

https://www.youtube.com/v/Gq65E7rmO_k


https://www.youtube.com/v/BWeh2_aZ1DM


https://www.youtube.com/v/1Nty2UU7wAk


https://www.youtube.com/v/OupQn5zXxd0

tacodog wrote:Trancesco - Your are sooo right

The name is TRANCOSO, tacodog.
(For my friends it's LORD TRANCOSO!)

Although I must admit Trancesco is quite an original, good sounding name.

mudra wrote:Dear Linda,

What your heart tells you you must follow ..
I hope your companion comes to his senses .
Maybe if one of you has the courage to take action
the other will follow .
Monkey fitser's cat survived after going to the vet.
Don't fall into the scary speculations that are circling
around.
Within you is all you need to really know .
Stay safe .

Much Love for You

mudra

I second that, Linda.
It seems you've already made up your mind, so why waite any longer?

If the XXXX might hit the ven big time all of a sudden, it 'll be an exodus.
Roads will be stuck by traffic, gas stations run out of petrol & can't be reached to refill (sic).
Remember New Orleans!

What a sad world it is.

I recently listened to one of the guests on Coast to Coast who said their was a crack along the bottom of area where the leak occurred. I strongly suspect this is never going to be stopped any conventional way and that the entire coastal areas in the gulf will continue to be severely impacted for years to come. One would think ET technology could help with this one. Yet, where are they? This whole situation is so complexed, so far reaching, so tragic on multiple levels yet in the midst of it I still have hope that somehow something will happen to bring this tragedy into balance.

Hi Linda. If you want purified water the Big Berkey is a good item to have on hand. As for transporting cats, use the transport cages for cat or get a screen divider to keep the back seat area for the pets so they can't get into the front seat area. Leaving sooner then later is a good idea and the situation is likely to worsen before it gets better and those is the affected areas are putting their health at risk. The problem is that this is not an isolated incident where one can just clean up and it's done with. Clean up is daily and will remain daily for a very, very long time. This means hazardous materials will continue to contaminate everything it comes in contact with (land, sea and air). The only way to insure safety from these contaminants is to move outside of where they continue to have an impact. I wish you well on your journey.

As much as I love Hawaii we will be relocating to north east Oregon. I see the fickle finger of fate at work here. Let your family help you. One thing I knew when moving to Hawaii is that nothing would get me to leave except for my relationship with my mother who needs us. It's ironic how life unfolds and moves us all around like little chess pieces on a chess board. God will move you to where you need to be if you listen and act in alignment with what your spirit seeks for its growth. All the best to you Linda whatever you decide to do.

SOOO Sorry Trancoso I've been

dyslexic lately!

This video with George Noory on Coast to Coast is excellent information...





There is also a recent article published at the link below which is a must read for all of you living in the Gulf of Mexico region and it is a "Heads Up" for the rest of us on Planet Earth too!

http://www.helium.com/items/1882339-doomsday-how-bp-gulf-disaster-may-have-triggered-a-world-killing-event

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Time is Eternity looking backwards at Itself.........................Jen's Muse

TRANCOSO wrote:

tacodog wrote:Trancesco - Your are sooo right

The name is TRANCOSO, tacodog.
(For my friends it's LORD TRANCOSO!)

Although I must admit Trancesco is quite an original, good sounding name.

" Lord Trancesco " makes it sound a little more of the Italian aristocracy . Nice

Love Always
mudra

Oil-soaked booms dumped in Jackson County
June 19, 2010
Pensacola News Journal

http://www.chipleypaper.com/news/oil-6557-waste-county.html

Where do oil-soaked absorbent booms, pads, rags and protective gear used in oil cleanup in Escambia County go to be disposed of?

Some 15 truck loads of oil-related waste per day are being dumped at Springhill Landfill near Campbellton in Jackson County. Waste Management company owns the landfill and has the contract with BP to dispose of oil spill-related solid waste, said Waste Management spokeswoman Amy Boyson.

BP's oil spill-related solid waste from Alabama and Mississippi is taken to either Pecan Grove Landfill in Harrison County, Miss., or Chastang Landfill in Mobile County, Ala. — both owned by Waste Management, Boyson said.

Sandy Jennings, who oversees Escambia's Solid Waste Division, said while the county's Perdido Landfill is classified to accept this type of waste, she is unsure whether BP would ever dump any there.

Waste Management's contract requires it to take the material to its own three landfills, Boyson said.

"I wouldn't necessarily want to see it take up space in our landfill," Escambia County Commission Chairman Grover Robinson IV said.

In some cases, metal containers filled with bagged, oily waste sit for up to a day at privately owned Longleaf Construction and Demolition Debris Landfill on Longleaf Drive in the Bellview area.

The Longleaf facility is being used by Waste Management as a staging area for oil-related solid waste, Boyson said.

"I know my constituents would have some concerns with that kind of waste being put there," Commissioner Marie Young said.

Federal law says the waste can be staged there for a maximum of 24 hours before being loaded onto another truck and removed from the site. Young said she was OK with it being used as a 24-hour staging area only.

When BP identifies an oil cleanup area, Waste Management brings a large metal waste container to the site to dispose of soiled oil absorbent booms, absorbent pads, oily sand, dirt, vegetation, rags, protective equipment and other oil-soiled debris from the cleanup.

The oily material is double-bagged before being put inside the plastic-lined metal waste container then covered with a plastic, waterproof tarp, said Pat Johnson, operations manager for Escambia Solid Waste Management.

Johnson recently inspected the Longleaf staging operations and said it was being done appropriately.

BP sends someone to the Longleaf site to inspect the load and complete the load's "manifest," a document for tracking the load from the cleanup area to its final disposal point, Boyson said.

"Throughout these three states, we have 535 containers being used and 65 trucks ... in relation to the Gulf oil spill," Boyson said.

Liquid waste related to the oil cleanup does not go into landfills.

For the Florida, Alabama and Mississippi cleanup area, the oily liquids collected are taken in vacuum trucks to a dock site in Theodore, Ala., where a machine is used to separate the oil/water mixture for reuse.

Love Always
mudra

Dirty disposal of oil cleanup material
Review finds shoddy work by handlers of boom, other waste


Image: Jay Reeves / AP
Soiled, oil-absorbing boom and other debris sit in an open, improperly lined waste container in Orange Beach, Ala., on June 17.
by JAY REEVES

read full article here : http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37902972/ns/us_news-environment/


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mudra

Oil spill cleanup waste might be heading to local landfills

http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/07/01/1711561/oil-spill-cleanup-waste-might.html



Contracted workers clean oil and tar balls from Biloxi Beach, Mississippi, near Edgewater Mall on Wednesday, June 30, 2010.
James Edwards Bates / MCT


By Karen Nelson
Biloxi Sun Herald

BILOXI — Local leaders on Mississippi's coast are afraid that some of the waste generated by the oil spill cleanup will go to nearby landfills — after they asked BP and state environmental regulators not to put it there.

Bags and bags of tar balls, gooey oil, oiled boom and workers' oil-stained clothing are waiting in large containers at sites along the coast for a decision by BP on where to dump them.

BP has a contract with Waste Management for two landfills in Mississippi — Pecan Grove near Pass Christian and Central Landfill in Pearl River County — but it can take the oil waste there only if the material is deemed non-hazardous.

If the state Department of Environmental Quality finds the material unsuitable, that could stop it from going to the landfills. However, that's not likely.

The decision is expected this week.

"It's like someone dumping this stuff in our front yard and apologizing for it, picking it up and then turning around and dumping it in our backyard," said Harrison County supervisor Marlin Ladner.

Ladner said Harrison County issued the permit for Pecan Grove, but had the county known what was coming it wouldn't have signed off on it receiving oil-spill waste.

Now the county has little recourse on the issue, he said, even though its attorneys have looked for an out.

DEQ Director Trudy Fisher said Wednesday so far testing of the oiled material in the Gulf "has shown that it's below the limits for what is considered hazardous material," making it technically OK for Pecan Grove.

In the oil-spill disposal plan, EPA requires BP to randomly test the material to "demonstrate" it's non-hazardous waste before it can go there, Fisher said. She said her agency will be involved in that testing.

"It's between BP and the EPA, but the landfill program is a state program, so we have to agree that the material is suitable for the landfill," she said, "to protect the citizens.

"We're not going to rely on BP or the federal government," she said. "I do care." But she added, "Pecan Grove has a clay and synthetic liner and is fully capable of handling the waste."

She promised oil-spill waste won't be brought in from other states.

She said each state will handle its own, which has been an issue because the Pecan Grove landfill's intake area reaches all the way to Baldwin County, Ala.

But Wednesday, Rene Faucheaux with Waste Management said Mississippi oil-spill waste has already been hauled off to Louisiana.

Faucheaux said last week the company hauled loads of it to the Colonial Landfill in Ascension Parish near Gonzales, La.

Faucheaux said the firm is awaiting DEQ's decision, it's a matter of protocol, but even if DEQ gives the thumbs-up for Pecan Grove, that doesn't mean the oil-spill waste will go there.

"We haven't agreed to anything at this point," he said.

"When we get information from DEQ, we'll make a decision at that point," Faucheaux said. "We're working with instructions from BP."

Love Always
mudra

A little research about Solid Waste Landfills ..

Long-Term Leachate Emissions From Municipal Solid Waste Landfills Are Unknown
By Steve Last
http://ezinearticles.com/?Long-Term-Leachate-Emissions-From-Municipal-Solid-Waste-Landfills-Are-Unknown&id=2552717

The Swiss have always been highly environmentally aware, and for a long while have looked after their environment in an exemplary fashion.

The 'Guidelines to waste management in Switzerland' ( EKA, 1986 ) were set in 1986, well ahead of many states. One necessary objective of this as a code of good practice has been that all waste management procedures have to provide materials which either are re-usable or can be disposed of in a landfill without any negative or damaging environmental impact for long term periods.

This kind of landfilling would be called 'final storage' and the wastes in the final storage must of course by inference have 'final storage quality'. Emissions from a final storage quality landfill must be a close fit with the quality in the natural environment without any additional treatment. Another vital objective of the Swiss waste management policy is that each generation handles its waste to a standing of last storage quality. So the reactions in a landfill to take it to final storage quality need to be rapid enough to all be completed within 30 years, and preferably less.

As an effect of this policy, has each borough's solid waste landfills been shown to be able to reach the final storage quality inside about thirty years after disposal? The final storage idea focuses principally on the solid waste itself stabilizing so that the next generation will not have to rely instead upon the synthetic or natural barriers round the landfill body, and the answer is a resounding no!

The landfill body has to reach an 'inert' state so the emissions from the landfill have compatibility with the environment for long term periods irrespective of the retardation and attenuation capacities of surrounding materials. However, this inert state relies on geochemical properties of the landfill site materials. The concern is that compounds in the inert landfill body may become 'mobile' when the physical and chemical conditions in the landfill change, and this will still be damaging even centuries after the landfill was filled and revived.

A correct lining and a correct geological environment are basic must-haves for final storages. They are mandatory for containment, for monitoring and, last but not least, for environmental security reasons.
Disposed of in a landfill, community solid waste ( MSW ) will ultimately come into contact water, which enters the landfill steadily through rain, even after capping as the seal cannot ever be perfect over a time period.

As a consequence of this contact, many chemical and microbiological reactions happen. Organic compounds can be changed to other organic compounds or inorganic compounds. Inorganic compounds can experience many chemical reactions and can be transformed to other inorganic compounds.

The products of these reactions and parts of non-reacted MSW can, and eventually will, be transported by leachate and by gas into the surrounding area. Additionally, many physical processes, like adsorption, dissolution, rain, etc, can happen at the same time.

Therefore, a MSW landfill can be accepted as a 'partly continual chemical and microbiological fixed bed reactor'. Now that's not a good thing to have in contact with groundwater which will often later be used as drinking water.

It's also considered as a treatment facility where the objective it is to get it to self-treat to a landfill body of last storage quality. Major research and monitoring of landfills is a new development, controlled landfills having existed for twenty years or so already.

The present controlled landfills therefore are still in the thorough reactor phase in which radical microbiological decompositions happen. The behaviour of landfills in this period can be considered approximately correctly using current models.

However, no experience exists with respect to the long-term behaviour (over even thirty years) of MSW landfills. Thanks to the highly complicated nature of the systems, a precise prophecy of long term behaviour of MSW landfills is nearly impossible.

So it is no exaggeration to say that long term leachate emissions from municipal solid waste landfills are unknown, and yet all over the world every day, new and bigger landfills are being built and filled with waste.

It is all a huge experiment and science has not determined the outcome. Even the Swiss, who are arguably some the most responsible guardians of the environment on the planet have fallen far short of their 1986 ideals.

How can we be so complacent? Shouldn't we all be worried?

Article is based upon the paper "Long-Term Leachate Emissions from Municipal Solid Waste Landfills, Hasan Belevi and Peter Baccini, Switzerland, presented at the International Symposia on Sanitary Landfills held in Sardinia (Italy)"

Many people find this fact to be of great concern. Is all of landfilling just a huge experiment which might cause huge problems in the future? Part 2 of this article is available were we further discuss landfill final storage quality. Go there now to read more!

more here : http://landfill-site.com/html/landfill_final_storage_quality.php

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mudra

this is a new project from Ben Stewart, the videomaker of Kymatica and Esoteric Agenda . Its loosely an organization for the revolution of consciousness, but perhaps it will grow and become a valuable resource . (Hope it isn't like the Venus Project, that's just weird .) It is a rather stirring speech, and worth a listen, but I sometimes think these types of addresses leave a mixed message.

As to the oil "clean up", anyone else feeling queasy about the oil wrapped in MORE oil in all those plastic bags? Then putting them in land fill? Gad ,this just gets worse as it drags on and on and on.

Linda, a farm up north sounds like a wise and wonderful retreat, and I'd listen to a scorpio bro, ( except mine ). I do think if it gets to the point that it is the OBVIOUS option to relocate, it could get seriously crazy. I mean, what's the point of knowing this stuff if it doesn't benefit you in some way, cuz we ain't exactly kittens and moonbeams enthusiasts. Stay/get safe if you can, and the man will no doubt follow once he can't find the kitchen. ( I know that's a terrible stereotype but I enjoyed that for a moment, sorry)

oh mudra, the landfill aspect of this is just another nail in the coffin they are making of the earth. If there was a right way to detoxify the effects of any of this, they simply wouldn't use it. Is there intelligent life on earth? Not at the top apparently. That's why the people at the bottom need to rise up. I sincerely hope they can.

BTW, how are people here finding it in conversation with those not pursuing alternative research? What's the chat like in America for example? My extended family there is seemingly still preoccupied with buying frou frou and talking designer mayonnaise/ latest novels. ( and these people have had an education can you believe?!) I'm shocked by lack of response, but I think they think they are immune in the northern states mainly. That plus fear of reality ( as it stands for now)

carol that's life, hope it works in your favor being in Oregon. I'm sure it's the right decision, based on love. I am sorry for you not getting to reap the benefits of your Hawaiian garden, hope somebody is appreciating and caretaking it. Also hope your mother's health improves, she must love having you and family there. Your board game skills must be awesome by now!

lindabaker wrote:Mudra: I have been following this thread daily. I remember that the poster with the contaminated water saw the terrible results of his cat who drank the water...cats are sensitive and would be subject to illness before humans would be. Did his cat survive? Because I have two "rescue" cats who live indoors and outdoors, they would be subject to the same danger. So, I'm hesitating on that one. I do have a family farm way up North, thank goodness. My scorpio psychic brother and mother are begging, begging us to come North. I am pulling out suitcases in readiness if I should choose to go. Whatever is to be done about transporting cats, the dog, and family member who refuses to go? Not naming any names, but he is a male and doesn't read the forums...he says he would rather stay and die Not me! I'll leave if I have to, and soon.

On another forum which shall remain nameless as well, there is a creepy video about the solar eclipse over the Gulf on Sunday...and the illuminati and their plans to use HAARP to create an earthquake. I don't want to be alarmed as I do not know the reputation of these people. I won't even provide a link unless someone is interested. The video is posted by someone who also shows how NOAA weather service has removed the tsumani alert info. for the US for "security reasons." It's getting crazier by the moment...

Good luck with the move. Personally I dont worry to much about what super dooper illuminati weapons may or may not do. What Mother Earth will bring will see desrtruction the likes that those jokers could not even dream of. They are a bunch of third rate gangsters my dear and far too much attention is afforded them.
Choose your place wisley and enjoy your adventure. why dont you pick up some mists members on the way
P

metaw3 wrote:2 news James Fox and an old funny one that I didn't get when it came out but now I do

In the first one, James is talking on the phone with a lab technician who just analyzed water samples from the Gulf that James sent him. The lab technician confirms 150 times the level of Corexit that is known to kill fish.

Good finds metaw

Love from me
mudra

anomalous cowherd wrote:oh mudra, the landfill aspect of this is just another nail in the coffin they are making of the earth.

I am afraid it is anomalous . The oil is one thing but the Corexit that it's mixed with is another big problem .
Once it's in the landfills the rain is going to disperse it in the ground as well as in the air ...

anomalous cowherd wrote:BTW, how are people here finding it in conversation with those not pursuing alternative research?

Situation still the same around me although I have given my friends all the needed documents to go through . It's happening so " far away " that it's unreal .
I have emailed some marginal journalist a few days ago. Still waiting for an answer...
The media blackout is very present here too !!!

Love from me
mudra

Linda Baker, I know what you're going through. My sister lives with me since 2008 - when a flood destroyed the house where he lived in the city of Blumenau, Southern Brasil. It was sad because people who did not want to leave their homes (which were doomed to fall) were taken by force to go out by the police forces. It is common, here in South America, when there are major environmental disasters and there are people who refuse to change their life plans. I wish you all the best whatever decision you take, leave or stay. Monique.