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    Gulf Oil Platform Explosion and Spill

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    Post  anomalous cowherd Tue Jun 15, 2010 4:44 am

    wow, it's all a bit hard to take in, I had to have a mini break yesterday, after I threw up, but like the terminator, I'M BAAAACK. so thanks once again crew, lots of great postings here, making my work eleswhere just that bit easier.

    I had this strange ( for me) idea yesterday, we need CELEBRITIES on board with this one. Afterall, it IS happening (at present) in America and who do they worship? Lindsey LOHAN!!! eh well, maybe we can get Britney on board?

    Seriously, when I heard Erin Brockavich came out of mothballs on this ( she lives down there) I thought JOY! and how great it would be if she hooked up with Costner and more importantly, Mr Avatar himself, and ya know, that guy, Cameron must be mega rich, plus he is obviously an adept , probably a freemason as well, ( and they CAN be good). This thing needs some serious money thrown at it FAST for exposure, and for people who can't quite get it for themselves, this could work! I remain hopeful that word is spreading at any rate but wow, people's comfort zones have made them really impenetrable. All part of the pogram

    I have NOT lost my marbles , though it may sound like it. Anyway, I'm putting a cosmic order in because frankly, I don't think the ETs are going to step up, with good reason .

    oh well, meanwhile, it's one person at a time ... and mel fabreghast is doing a great job with news and info.

    keep the balance folks, if you came in as a lightworker then YOU are the person for the job. Only those with the courage and mission to SEE what's occuring in this reality can illuminate the darkness . Much needed now, party later.
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    Post  mudra Tue Jun 15, 2010 6:22 am

    Another view on what may be going on down there below the sea.

    Less gloom than in the pdf posted on 348

    I am not understanding it all but I do understand there is hope :)


    http://www.theoildrum.com/node/6594#comment-649179

    see poster R2-3D:12:48 pm

    Yes, with any blowout, you have the possibility of a parted casing string(s) downhole. Underground blowouts with burst casing are often related to shallow sands. After the well is controlled, you can run shallow (hi-resolution) seismic surveys (a series of single 2D lines at first) that will tell you where your subsurface hydrocarbons went. I've mentioned before I once sat on a relief well for an offshore blowout. The BOP stack was shut in (but it partially failed) but was shut in enough to cause the well to have a subsurface blowout. The gas flowed out the burst casing and along the outside of the whole thing and up to the surface. It also charged (flowed into) a shallow gas sand at about the same level as the burst casing. It was estimated later perhaps 3Bcfg flowed into the shallow sand in the vicinity of the blowout well. The blowout well "bridged over" before long. It most likely bridged over closest to the surface, as the gas quit flowing to the surface after a day or so, but since the shallow sand took maybe 3Bcf, the gas probably continued to flow into the shallow sand from the formations, up inside the casing and then through two strings of casing into the shallow sand.

    Did the Top Kill give any information about a possible casing breach?
    I'm pretty much out of my league when I talk about engineering casing designs; grab those salt grains as you read further.
    With this Macondo 252 #1-01:
    You have 36" conductor(drive) pipe set to 320+ ft below mudline. Traditionally, these are driven down, banged on (it's loud) until you can't bang on them any more.
    Next you have the 28" casing (surface pipe) that is set in this case to around 1200' +/- below mudline.
    You then have the 22" casing that is set about 2900' +/- below mudline. I believe this is the pipe that most likely supports the bulk of the weight of the BOP stack.
    The 18" is a liner that's hung off of the 22" stack, I think. The base of the 18" is nearly 4000' below mudline. I don't know where the top of the 18" liner casing is, but let's say 250' above the base of the casing it was hung on, or about 2700' below mudline.
    Then the 16" is run to the base of the BOP stack. The base of the 16" is 6860' below mudline.

    If the formation fluids are coming up the outside of the 7 x 9 5/8" tapered casing, they're going up the inside of the 16" casing.

    So, let's say that the fluids coming up the annulus between the 7 x 9 5/8" tapered casing and the 16" casing, and there's somehow enough backpressure to burst through the casing. Let's say it's going through the 16" casing. Most likely, it would not go through the 22" AND the 28" casing, but perhaps choose a spot lower than the base of the 28" casing. (Why not go out deeper? It could. But bear with me) I seriously doubt it went out through the 16, 22, 28 and the 36 inch casing strings all at once within a few hundred feet of the surface.

    So, I'm painting a scenario where the oil and gas "choose" a window to burst through. This assumes there's enough backpressure to create that burst level pressure downhole. After all, if that "burst window" was that easy to pop through in the first place, the blowout would never have made it to the surface. Perhaps the riser keeling over created some temporary kinks before the riser kink itself breached. Who knows?
    This all _assumes_ there _is_ a casing breach, something that's merely speculated on. I'm trying to get to this description to make my own point.

    What I'm suggesting is that _if_ there is a casing breach, it's through the 16" and the 22" casing somewhere between 2700' below mudline (or above whereever the 18" liner is hanged from) and 1200' below mudline (the base of the 28" casing shoe)

    If there's anyone that asks you, "Why do they run electric logs all the way to the surface, you have a reason to tell them. Don't you want to know if there are any sandy sections in that interval? I know I do.

    Okay, we have a theoretical breach of two strings of casing between 2700' below mudline and 1200' below mudline in this scenario. Did the formation fluid get far, or did it seek the path of least resistance and travel up the outside of the casing/cement to the base of the BOP stack? Well, we might see blips and blobs of oil/gas or we might see a torrent.

    NOW, let's talk about the Top Kill. You have the BP engineers that already know what I've said to you. It's a possibility. You deal with the reality. The reality is the bulk of the oil is coming up the BOP and into the riser. The Top Kill is tried after the new control pod is placed on the BOP stack. Pressures within the BOP stack are taken at various points before and after the Top Kill. I suspect the flow rates of mud and the pressures didn't exactly match up, but that's speculation on my part. What the effect of the Top Kill is, is to increase pressure at the surface, "bullheading" the formation fluids back down. The mud is pumped with enough volume to overcome the riser leaks. If you do this slowly, you don't run a high risk of _causing_ a subsurface blowout, but if there is one already there, you could open that up and leak off into the shallow sands.

    So, let's say that some pressures and pumping mud volumes gave some BP engineers some indication that they've got a breach in the casing. They stop the Top Kill and proceed with capturing the oil as best they can (not so well so far, but whatever) in a passive manner.

    Now to my point (whew, that was a long way to get here!)
    The casing design means there's little chance of the BOP stack falling over, or even moving five inches from its spot.
    It also means there's little chance for the BOP stack to fall off or completely break. What exactly is bent and at what angles are of interest. Did something bend enough below the BOP stack to break, and are we in danger of fluids coming out of somewhere really shallow? We don't know. If fluids come out of a very shallow breach due to bending stresses, does that mean the well has failed? Far from it. The erosion you hear about is overrated. Formation sands can be made to erode, but there's got to be a lot of them. Do you see that sand floating down in huge volumes? We saw the bullseye level the other day and that was not covered in all that much sand. We should see huge volumes of sand coating every bit of the BOP's lower sections. We don't. Sand production isn't a big issue in this case at the moment.

    Do any fluids going into our theoretical casing breach mean anything? Well, they're obviously not coming up around the BOP stack in large volumes. Is the oil and gas leaving our breach and traveling laterally? Perhaps. What's the mechanism? Have the fluids traveled seven miles away and only then popped up to the mudline to leak away? Now you have to calculate some volumes. What's 7 miles times say 1800 feet wide times 20 feet high? Fill that volume with 5 ft of net oil, so instead of 20 feet high, it's only 5 effective feet of oil 'tall'. Maybe 3,000,000 barrels. Hey, anything is possible.

    Point is, if the oil and gas DID leak through a casing breach, it's meaningless to both the oil spill killing shore critters and relief wells.

    Why does a casing breach not impact a relief well operation? Can't the control mud flowing up the blowout from the relief well intersection just flow into the shallow formation forever, UTubing and preventing control of the blowout downhole? In theory, yes.

    This is where the control fluids are added to the heavy mud, and this time it's more than cellophane and nutshells. All you have to worry about is the top of the BOP stack. There needs to be some pushback ready to go. Those orifices are too big to control, but the theoretical casing breach 1800' below the mudline is a problem, but it's not an insurmountable problem.


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    Post  mudra Tue Jun 15, 2010 6:44 am

    An inspiring talk : 6 ways mushrooms can save the world: Paul Stamets on TED.com

    Mycologist Paul Stamets studies mycelium and lists 6 ways that this astonishing fungus can help save the world. Cleaning polluted soil, creating new insecticides, treating smallpox and maybe even the flu ... in 18 minutes, he doesn't get all the way through his list, but he has plenty of time to blow your mind.

    http://blog.ted.com/2008/05/paul_stamets.php

    Much more extensive talk can be viewed on my thread here :
    http://www.themistsofavalon.net/research-info-ideas-useful-knowledge-f20/mycologist-paul-stamet-at-the-10th-lohas-conference-t548.htm#9313

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    Post  newel Tue Jun 15, 2010 7:03 am

    Mercuriel wrote:Obama will talk to the World on Tuesday from the Oval Office...

    It's almost as if John Galt could be speaking tonight.



    For twelve years you've been asking "Who is John Galt?" This is John Galt speaking. I'm the man who's taken away your victims and thus destroyed your world. You've heard it said that this is an age of moral crisis and that Man's sins are destroying the world. But your chief virtue has been sacrifice, and you've demanded more sacrifices at every disaster. You've sacrificed justice to mercy and happiness to duty. So why should you be afraid of the world around you?

    Continued here:
    http://www.working-minds.com/galtmini.htm


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    Post  mudra Tue Jun 15, 2010 4:17 pm

    Quite a pool of infos here around the Macondo well

    http://www.drillscience.com/bp/

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    Post  mudra Tue Jun 15, 2010 4:37 pm

    For those of you who are interested there is good discussion going on regarding the Macondo well on The Oil drum website :

    http://www.theoildrum.com/node/6594#comment-649179

    I am finding that following it balances the worst case scenario views
    that the pdf posted on 348 has .

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    Post  dolphin Tue Jun 15, 2010 5:46 pm

    " keep the balance folks, if you came in as a lightworker then YOU are the person for the job. Only those with the courage and mission to SEE what's occuring in this reality can illuminate the darkness . Much needed now, party later.
    maybe tRANTcoso of the very small print can get grace jones on board Gulf Oil Platform Explosion and Spill - Page 18 Icon_geek[/quote]"

    AC, you're hilarious. thanks for the chuckle... rendeer i guess tRANTcoso took my type suggestion a little too seriously, i guess he doesn't want us to think he's in kindergarten...tisk tisk. jocolor
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    Post  mudra Tue Jun 15, 2010 5:59 pm

    I concur with Dolphin anomalous.
    Thanks for keeping the morale of the troops high Gulf Oil Platform Explosion and Spill - Page 18 Icon_cheers

    Have you heard that BP is spilling coffee now ?



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    Post  dolphin Tue Jun 15, 2010 6:14 pm

    omg, that bp coffee break...haven't laughed this hard in a while. thanks mudra! Razz
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    Post  Guest Tue Jun 15, 2010 6:34 pm

    Thanks for keeping the morale of the troops high Gulf Oil Platform Explosion and Spill - Page 18 Icon_cheers

    Have you heard that BP is spilling coffee now ?



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    Post  TRANCOSO Tue Jun 15, 2010 6:52 pm

    dolphin wrote:...maybe tRANTcoso of the very small print can get grace jones on board Gulf Oil Platform Explosion and Spill - Page 18 Icon_geek i guess tRANTcoso took my type suggestion a little too seriously, i guess he doesn't want us to think he's in kindergarten...tisk tisk. Gulf Oil Platform Explosion and Spill - Page 18 Icon_jokercolor
    Meanwhile my house is somewhere you'd love to live, while you're living in a country I wouldn't even wanna be found dead.
    Am I right, or am I right?

    This is neither the time, nor the place, to behave as if you haven't outgrown kindergarten yet, dolphin.
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    Post  mudra Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:38 am

    Gulf of Mexico oil spill flow estimate increases with 'more and better data'
    Published: Tuesday, June 15, 2010

    Jaquetta White, The Times-Picayune


    Just five days after raising an ever-changing estimate of the flow rate of oil shooting from a damaged well in the Gulf of Mexico, a team of scientists increased the figure again on Tuesday after receiving "more and better data." They now say the blown out Maconda 252 well is gushing 35,000 to 60,000 barrels of oil per day.

    read more : http://www.nola.com/news/gulf-oil-spill/index.ssf/2010/06/gulf_of_mexico_oil_spill_flow.html

    and also here with a vid added : http://us.cnn.com/2010/US/06/15/oil.spill.disaster/index.html?hpt=T1&iref=BN1

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    Post  Mercuriel Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:53 am

    This is neither the time, nor the place, to behave as if We haven't outgrown kindergarten yet

    I would only add - Lets keep this Thread on Target and on Topic please. Many are finding It useful and We don't need It sullied by inordinant Negativity. The Issue Itself is distasteful enough to have It's own inherent Negativity without any of Us adding to It...

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    Post  GODDESS OF PURPLE LIGHT Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:57 am

    Gulf Oil Platform Explosion and Spill - Page 18 Earth%20day

    God bless mother Earth

    I hope she will forgive us for what we have done to her.

    I am soo sorry!!
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    Post  mudra Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:09 am

    Health Impacts Associated with Dispersants and Louisiana Sweet Crude

    http://leanweb.org/news/latest/health-impacts-associated-with-dispersants.html


    In order to inform community members in the areas of impact of the BP Crude Oil Disaster and fishermen and workers performing crude oil containment and cleanup activities, the health impacts associated with the dispersants and the crude oil have been compiled by our chemist Wilma Subra.

    Health Impacts from Corexit Dispersants
    Health Impacts from Louisiana Sweet Crude Oil


    Health Crisis Unfolding in the Gulf

    Marylee Orr, executive director of the Louisiana Environmental Action Network, talks about the symptoms of poor health those responding to the oil disaster have.

    http://leanweb.org/news/latest/health-crisis-unfolding-in-the-gulf.html

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    Post  Carol Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:28 am

    From Mel:

    Dear Veritas Member,

    I never thought I would be writing more than one e-mail per week. I
    also never saw myself getting involved in something so important - a
    life changing event that we are not being told by the mainstream media.


    A few minutes ago, I conducted a short interview with documentary
    filmmaker, James Fox. He is presently in Grand Isle, Louisiana. The
    closest location to the Gulf oil spill. Before I spoke to James I
    received a few unsubstantiated reports that I put on the side.

    What I'm about to share with you is extremely important. There is an
    absolute MEDIA BLACKOUT in the area. People are being arrested
    everywhere. Hotels in a 70-mile radius are completely sold out, yet,
    you don't see any vans or reporters filming. It's as if the entire area
    was under siege.

    James Fox has witnessed this and he basically just arrived. He says he
    saw multiple Chevron helicopters flying. He has not seen any military
    activity. It's as if the oil companies had taken over. James expected
    to rent a plane to fly over it and that is not possible. The area above
    the oil spill is now a NO-FLY-ZONE. He will be there for two weeks.

    I am issuing this bulleting because James Fox's name needs to be out in
    the public, as there is a possibility that he will be arrested. I have
    plans to talk to the Grand Isle's Police Department to get further
    clarification regarding these arrests, since James people don't even
    know who is conducting these arrests. James had the opportunity to talk
    to the son of one of the cleanup workers (former fisherman) and he told
    him no one is talking. He did say that no one is being told the extent
    of this disaster. It is much bigger than what is being reported.

    The government is NOT IN CONTROL. The ones exercising all influence are
    the oil companies. Where is our FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT? I will be
    posting my interview with James at the forum shortly. When I called him
    I wanted to remain optimistic and felt people were exaggerating or
    simply fear mongering. After my conversation with James I can
    categorically say that my level of concern has risen to unprecedented
    levels and now I'm putting more credence to the reports I'm receiving.

    I would like to put everything on the side and devote my time to fully
    cover this but I can't. I am relying on people like James to be our
    eyes and ears on the ground. One last thing. James is well connected
    with the media. He placed a number of calls to his contacts on CNN and
    told them literally "Guys, I need to talk to you immediately." No one
    is responding.

    He says he felt as if he was being watched everywhere. Literally, a
    town under siege. I thought very hard before I wrote this, but I have
    always promised you that if I heard something that needs to be shared
    with you, I would. There are some who are putting their lives on the
    line to get this information out and if I can, even in my own small
    way, be able to assist, they have my full support.

    Check the forum periodically and the Blog for more updates. I told
    James to keep in touch with me and I plan to do so. Audio of our
    interview will be posted shortly.

    Until the next update. Be well.

    Yours in Veritas,

    Mel
    Here's the audio:

    http://www.manticoregroup.com/radio/...mesfox2010.mp3


    Oil Volcano Pressure Too Strong For Containment



    It has been estimated by experts that the pressure which blows the oil
    into the Gulf waters is estimated to be between 20,000 and 70,000 PSI
    (pounds per square inch). Impossible to control. What US Scientists Are
    Forbidden To Tell The Public About The Gulf What you are about to read,
    is what the scientists in the United States are not allowed to tell you
    in great fear of the Obama administration. They are under the threat of
    severe repercussions to the max.. Scientists confirming these findings
    cannot be named due to the above, but what they believe, they want to
    be known by all. Take a U. S. map, lay it flat and measure inland just
    the minimum 50 miles of total destruction all around the Gulf of Mexico
    as to what you will read below. The carnage to the United States is so
    staggering, it will take your breathe away. Should what the scientists
    who are trying to warn everyone about be even close to being true...
    all of Florida will be completely destroyed as will everyone and
    everything on it. You decide!! Everyone has the right to read what I
    have just written in this article, as well as to what is written below
    by the scientists who the Obama administration and BP are trying to
    shut up. Please share with as many as you can. --Dr. James P. Wickstrom

    Gulf Oil Platform Explosion and Spill - Page 18 OilslickLN-blogSpan

    SUMMARY OF WHAT IS HAPPENING

    The estimated super high pressure release of oil from under the
    earth's crust is between 80,000 to 100,000 barrels per day. The flow of
    oil and toxic gases is bringing up with it... rocks and sand which
    causes the flow to create a sandblasting effect on the remaining well
    head device currently somewhat restricting the flow, as well as the
    drilled hole itself. As the well head becomes worn it enlarges the
    passageway allowing an ever-increasing flow. Even if some device could
    be placed onto the existing wellhead, it would not be able to shut off
    the flow, because what remains of the existing wellhead would not be
    able to contain the pressure. The well head piping is originally about
    2 inches thick. It is now likely to be less than 1 inch thick, and
    thinning by each passing moment. The oil has now reached the Gulf
    Stream and is entering the Oceanic current which is at least four times
    stronger than the current in the Gulf, which will carry it throughout
    the world within 18 months. The oil along with the gasses, including
    benzene and many other toxins, is deleting the oxygen in the water.
    This is killing all life in the ocean. Along with the oil along the
    shores, there will be many dead fish, etc. that will have to be
    gathered and disposed of.

    SUMMARY OF EXPECTATIONS

    At some point the drilled hole in the earth will enlarge itself beneath
    the wellhead to weaken the area the wellhead rests upon. The intense
    pressure will then push the wellhead off the hole allowing a direct
    unrestricted flow of oil, etc. The hole will continue to increase in
    size allowing more and more oil to rise into the Gulf. After several
    billion barrels of oil have been released, the pressure within the
    massive cavity five miles beneath the ocean floor will begin to
    normalize. This will allow the water, under the intense pressure at 1
    mile deep, to be forced into the hole and the cavity where the oil was.
    The temperature at that depth is near 400 degrees, possibly more. The
    water will be vaporized and turned into steam, creating an enormous
    amount of force, lifting the Gulf floor. It is difficult to know how
    much water will go down to the core and therefore, its not possible to
    fully calculate the rise of the floor. The tsunami wave this will
    create will be anywhere from 20 to 80 feet high, possibly more. Then
    the floor will fall into the now vacant chamber. This is how nature
    will seal the hole. Depending on the height of the tsunami, the ocean
    debris, oil, and existing structures that will be washed away on shore
    and inland, will leave the area from 50 to 200 miles inland devoid of
    life. Even if the debris is cleaned up, the contaminants that will be
    in the ground and water supply will prohibit re-population of these
    areas for an unknown number of years. (End of scientists information
    release.) From Tom Buyea FL News Service ~
    http://rense.com/general91/oilor.htm

    Three oil leaks in Gulf possible, FL power and water supplies may be at risk
    http://image3.examiner.com/images/blog/replicate/EXID38220/images/OilLeaks.jpg
    Gulf Oil Platform Explosion and Spill - Page 18 OilLeaks
    Satellite imagery Apr. 25 - May 18 shows multiple oil leaks in Gulf. Images in public domain courtesy of SkyTruth.

    An analysis of satellite imagery suggests there may be oil leaks at
    three separate sites in the Gulf of Mexico, in addition to the
    possibility of three leaks at the Deepwater Horizon site. Meanwhile,
    the tar mats creeping closer to Tampa Bay may pose a threat to drinking
    water and power supplies in many areas of Florida.

    According to both The Atlantic and the Alabama Press-Register, the
    Deepwater Horizon is not the only well that has been leaking oil into
    the Gulf of Mexico for the last month. In addition to the multiple
    leaks at the Deepwater Horizon site revealed by Sen. Bill Nelson on
    MSNBC two days ago, there may be two others.
    Kate Sheppard, who covers energy and environmental politics for the Washington bureau of Mother Jones, writes:

    John Amos, head of the West Virginia-based nonprofit SkyTruth, was
    looking at satellite images of the oil from the Deepwater Horizon site
    when he noticed what appeared to be another small slick of oil about 11
    miles off the coast of Louisiana and about 40 miles from the major
    spill. Amos' group uses the images to assess environmental problems; he
    was among the first independent experts to point out that the spill
    estimates from BP and the government were far too low, which has now
    been confirmed. Amos reported a "small but persistent leak or oily
    discharge" at a second site in the Gulf, one that appeared to be coming
    from platform 23051 in the Gulf of Mexico. It can be seen on multiple
    satellite images of the region. Minerals Management Service (MMS)
    records indicate that the platform belongs to Taylor Energy Company.

    Amos contacted J. Henry Fair, a New York-based photographer who
    specializes in artistic renderings of the human impact on the
    environment. Fair was in the Gulf last weekend taking aerial photos of
    the spill with the group Southwings, and at Amos' suggestion sought out
    platform 23051. Fair found a rig with an oily sheen extending out into
    the water and snapped a series of photos. But upon closer inspection,
    it was a different rig - the Ocean Saratoga rig owned by Diamond
    Offshore. In some of Fair's photos, a platform is visible in the
    background, possibly the one he was originally searching for, 23051.
    Amos couldn't give an estimate on how much oil might be coming out of
    either site.

    That would mean there are potentially two other operations in the Gulf
    leaking oil. So just how common are such leaks? The sad reality is, we
    really don't know.

    Florida residents, however, may be more concerned with this report from
    Wayne Madsen, another Washington DC-based investigative journalist and
    nationally-distributed columnist. In a piece picked up by the web site,
    Global Research, Madsen writes:

    ...Emergency planning sources in Florida have informed [me] that the
    state faces severe fresh water shortages and power blackouts if the
    thick crude oil from the Deepwater Horizon disaster clogs sea water
    intakes at the largest seawater desalinization plant in the United
    States - the Tampa Bay Seawater Desalinization Plant at Apollo Beach.

    The plant, which uses seawater reverse osmosis to turn seawater into 16
    to 19 million gallons of drinking water daily for residents of the
    Tampa Bay area, faces the threat of filtration membranes becoming
    clogged if oil from the Gulf of Mexico enters its intake pipes. Such an
    event would render the plant unable to process seawater, resulting in a
    major fresh water shortage for Tampa Bay.

    Similarly, oil clogging the water cooling intakes at the Crystal River
    Nuclear Power Plant on the Gulf of Mexico coast, some 80 miles north of
    Tampa, could force the shutdown of the Unit 3 pressurized water nuclear
    reactor. Such an event would result in power shutdowns in the Florida
    areas served by the power plant.

    According to these sources, there is much more at stake for Florida
    residents than fouled beaches and dead marine life. When BP's oil hits
    the coast of Florida, it may become an economic disaster of epic
    proportion.


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    Post  mudra Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:42 am

    BP Coughs Up Another Drop of Air Quality Data: Not Reassuring

    From:Natural Resources Defense Council Staff Blog

    Gina Solomon
    Posted June 10, 2010

    New BP air testing results were posted yesterday from April 27 - May 26 for benzene, total hydrocarbons, and 2-Butoxyethanol. There's still no information about other oil-related air toxic chemicals such as naphthalene or hydrogen sulfide, offshore.

    The BP sampling plan focuses only on workers on the large ships, and appears to not include monitoring for the people on the approximately 1,500 small fishing boats helping to clean up the spill. These people are dismissed as of "Reduced Priority" on page 4 of the BP sampling plan.

    Nearly 70% (275 out of 399) of offshore air samples had detectable levels of hydrocarbons and nearly 1 in 5 (73 out of 399) had levels greater than 10 parts per million (ppm), which is an EPA cutoff level for further investigation.

    6 samples exceed 100 ppm which in a previous monitoring summary was labeled as the action limit. This label appears to have been removed in the most recent summary document. No information is given on where these samples, or the 4 found to be between 50 and 100 ppm, were taken.

    20 (5%) samples had detectable levels of benzene with measurements up to 0.5 ppm. The National Institute of Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) Recommended Exposure Limit (REL) is 0.1 ppm.

    20% (29 out of 146) samples had detectable levels of 2-Butoxyethanol with measurements up to 10 ppm. This range encompasses the NIOSH REL for occupational exposure to 2-Butoxyethanol of 5 ppm. The BP document cites the OSHA PEL for 2-Butoxyethanol of 50 ppm, which would not protect workers.

    ....

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    http://leanweb.org/news/latest/bp-coughs-up-another-drop-of-air-quality-data-not-reassuring.html

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    Post  mudra Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:51 am

    Documents, Employees Reveal BP’s Alaska Oilfield Plagued By Major Safety Issues

    15 june 2010

    Jason Leopold has written an amazing piece on BP and how they handle safety in Alaska. He will be my guest tomorrow on The Shannyn Moore Show which airs from 11am-2pm Alaska time on KUDO 1080am. Here is the article in full, which is cross-posted from Truthout.

    Read full article here:
    http://www.themudflats.net/2010/06/15/documents-employees-reveal-bps-alaska-oilfield-plagued-by-major-safety-issues/

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    Post  mudra Wed Jun 16, 2010 12:56 pm

    Investigation of Deepwater Horizon Points to Human Error

    By Ravi Nagarajan
    Published on June 14, 2010


    On Thursday, June 17, BP CEO Tony Hayward will testify before the House Committee on Energy and Commerce. In preparation for the testimony, the Committee Chairmen sent Mr. Hayward a letter listing a series of alleged procedural lapses that could have contributed to the Deepwater Horizon disaster. The letter is worth reviewing because it raises issues regarding the general safety of deepwater drilling and steps that should be taken prior to lifting the moratorium.
    Procedural Lapses

    The letter contains a number of allegations regarding procedural shortcuts that BP took in order to either reduce direct costs or save time. In fact, the distinction between time and money is a false one since BP was paying Transocean high dayrates for the Deepwater Horizon rig and the project was already behind schedule. Keeping in mind the fact that BP has yet to respond to the allegations, here are the five main points in the letter:

    Well Design. The use of a full string of casing from the wellhead to the bottom of the well was criticized as being inferior to installing a “liner-tieback” system which is more expensive but considered safer.
    Centralizers. Centralizers are devices that ensure that the casing running down the wellbore is centered properly. If the casing is not centered properly, the “cementing” of the well can fail which can result in gas flowing up the spaces around the casing. Halliburton recommended the use of 21 centralizers but BP only used six of the devices.

    Cement Bond Log. Once cementing is complete, engineers run an acoustic test called a “cement bond log” to determine whether the cement has bonded to the casing and the surrounding formation of the wellbore. This is done to detect the potential of gas leaks. The letter alleges that this work was not performed.

    Mud Circulation. Circulation of drilling mud allows engineers to test the mud for the presence of gas. The letter alleges that industry best practices calls for a full circulation of mud from the bottom of the well to the top. This is done prior to cementing in order to correct any gas leak issues before the key cementing stage. BP only performed a partial mud circulation test.

    Lockdown Sleeve. A casing hanger lockdown sleeve is supposed to provide a barrier to blowouts in addition to the cement at the bottom of the well and the seal at the wellhead on the sea floor. The letter claims that BP did not deploy the lockdown sleeve.

    These procedural issues, if accurate, paint a picture of a company that was taking shortcuts in an effort to contain costs and bring the well into production as quickly as possible given that the project was already late. While BP should have an opportunity to respond, it is worth noting that extensive reporting in The Wall Street Journal in recent weeks corroborates important points in the letter. The evidence uncovered so far strongly suggests that human error led to the disaster rather than equipment failure.

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    http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/293776-1

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    Post  mudra Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:36 pm

    Waking America From the BP Nightmare

    57 days ago, in the dead of night, the worst environmental nightmare in U.S. history began.

    The spill cam, requested by Congress, has brought the horror into homes across the country, as we watch tens of thousands of barrels of oil billowing into the Gulf every day.

    For years, the oil industry swore this could never happen. We were told that technology had advanced, that offshore drilling was safe.

    BP said they didn't think the rig would sink. It did.

    They said they could handle an Exxon Valdez-sized spill every day. They couldn't.

    BP said the spill was 1,000 barrels per day. It wasn't. And they knew it.

    Now the other big oil companies, testifying in Congress today, contend that this was an isolated incident. They say a similar disaster could never happen to them.

    And yet it is this kind of Blind Faith -- which is ironically the name of an actual rig in the Gulf -- that has led to this kind of disaster.

    In preparation for this hearing, Congress reviewed the oil spill safety response plans for all the top five oil companies.

    What we found was that Exxon, Chevron, ConocoPhillips, Shell and BP have response plans that are virtually identical. The plans cite identical response capabilities and tout identical ineffective equipment. In some cases, they use the exact same words and made the exact same assurances.

    The covers of the five response plans are different colors, but the content is ninety percent identical.

    Like BP, three other companies include references to protecting walruses, which have not called the Gulf of Mexico home for 3 million years.

    Two other plans are such dead ringers for BP's that they list a phone number for the same expert - a man who has been dead since 2005.

    read full article here : http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rep-ed-markey/waking-america-from-the-b_b_613161.html

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    Post  mudra Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:43 pm

    Hey .. some awakening taking place cheers

    Oil Spill Prompts Environmental Soul-Searching

    (RNS) The constant loop of disheartening images from the Gulf of Mexico--oil-covered pelicans, dead sea turtles, despairing fishermen--has prompted many Americans to seek ways to do something, anything, to take better care of the Earth.

    But what, and how?

    While the political debate over the oil spill's cause and ripple effect remains polarized, Christian environmentalists pondering the familiar question "What Would Jesus Do?" believe part of the answer includes cutting back on fossil fuels.

    "He would probably take the bus," said Matthew Sleeth, co-founder of Blessed Earth, a nonprofit dedicated to spreading environmentalism among churches.

    In the weeks since the April 20 Deepwater Horizon disaster, religious leaders and faith-based organizations have issued an array of responses, both in words--prayers for help, comfort and wisdom--and deeds, such as organizing aid and urging people to reduce energy consumption.

    Regardless of the response from the government and private sector, the solution must involve changing individual behavior to recognize and respect the divine gift of creation, and the costs of carelessly pushing its limits, they agree.

    read more here : http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/16/oil-spill-prompts-environ_n_613531.html

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    Post  tacodog Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:03 pm

    All those coffins, body bags, fema camps that everyone is talking about.....could come in handy if that toxic brew is indeed in the air.
    I just do not know what to say.
    I bring this catastrophy to the attention of people around here...and well, to be honest, I think it is just too much for most people. Perhaps its easier to swallow where I live because its happening in the Gulf, and they can't see the bigger picture, I don't know. If it's not on the main news, well, nothing to worry about.
    A big Thank You to all of you who keep us up to date on what is going on.
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