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Things seem to be out of control -- and I suspect that things will get a helluva lot worse. Why can't properly trained agents target terrorist threats in a very low key manner -- and just skip all of this public madness, which pits neighbor against neighbor, and drives the American people to their knees? I suspect all of this terrorist hype has more to do with reigning-in the American people, than with legitimately preventing terrorism. There are many who accuse the Secret Government of being the real terrorists. But on the other hand, who knows what orders the Secret Government receives from off-world? Who knows? The Secret Government might be in more trouble than we are -- from off-world, and from us. Once again, all of this madness could be extremely complex and ugly. I guess this is why I try to remain somewhat neutral, and joke a lot -- even if this seems to be unprincipled, politically incorrect, and insensitive. I'm trying to not burn the bridges between me and anyone -- regardless of how good or evil they might be. However, this means that I'll probably keep making everyone hate me. In a sense, I have no respect for my enemies or my friends. In another sense, I have the deepest respect for my enemies and my friends. Don't take what I say too personally, and don't expect me to stop asking hard questions, or to stop making politically incorrect jokes and posts. I'm not kidding when I say that I feel as if I am in conflict with Myself, Divinity, and Humanity. BTW, I felt a bit like Bartleby or Loki at the Airport, when we went out for coffee. I enjoyed those 'close-encounters' regardless of our reincarnational-identities, ideological-differences, galactic-loyalties, and karmic-debt. Remember when I said that I should probably bring a Bible and a Crucifix -- and start shouting at you -- but that if I did that, I wouldn't be able to talk to you anymore? You never showed me your crucifix -- but you called me 'Michael', and asked me if I thought I might be the one hanging on the cross? Remember when I started reading from the last chapter of 'The Great Controversy' -- but stopped reading when it seemed to bother you? Where are you, and what are you doing? On second thought, perhaps it's better if I don't know. Ignorance is bliss. Now I'm going to have my morning coffee, without using my credit card.
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I need some input regarding the following preliminary model of solar system governance:
**************************************************GOD**************************************************
*************THE KING AND QUEEN OF THE UNITED STATES OF THE SOLAR SYSTEM*************
THE UNITED STATES OF THE SOLAR SYSTEM****THE SOLAR SYSTEM COUNCIL OF CHURCHES
*******U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights*******************1928 Book of Common Prayer*******
*************The Federalist Papers********************************The Desire of Ages*************
************J.S. Bach and G.F. Handel**************************J.S. Bach and G.F. Handel**********
**************Cathedral Context************************************Cathedral Context**************
If insituted, would this constitute the establishment of a state church? The model is very simple, but thinking through the pros and cons can be extremely complex. How might the Pope of Rome, the Queen of England, the Queen of Heaven, the God of This World, and God the Father respond or react to this? Even with the best of intentions, would this model quickly become corrupted and subverted -- just like everything else? My guess is that this model would make everyone mad. However, just about ANY proposed governance model would probably make everyone mad. Is a REALLY nasty theocracy inevitable? Might this United States of the Solar System concept be allowed, with the expectation that it would fail horribly within twenty years? Are we headed for a REALLY nasty crash, no matter what we do? I think I might just focus on Political and Theological Science-Fiction, no matter how bad things get. I'm frankly expecting the worst. I like the general idea behind this basic model, but the implementation would probably be a nightmare, to say the least. I'd like to see this sort of thing up and running tomorrow -- but realistically, I'm setting 2112 as my target-date for a completely implemented United States of the Solar System. I'd be very wary of sudden and arbitrary changes -- even if they were changes I would approve of, in principle. I expect a helluva lot of really nasty game-playing in the coming decades. I think the best I can do is to continue to attempt to understand, rather than attempting to implement. Still, I'd appreciate some input regarding this simple preliminary model. BTW -- I'm still looking for some sort of an insider-observer, ankle-biter, pain-in-uranus job. Can you imagine the stares and glares the first day on the job???!!! OMG!!!! I continue to intend this thread as being a study-guide. I recommend going completely through this thread -- over and over and over again. I realize that it's hell to do this -- but I think this might be necessary. Repetition, repetition, repetition. This is going to take time folks. Also, no existentialism for me. Think both idealistically and pragmatically. **************************************************GOD**************************************************
*************THE KING AND QUEEN OF THE UNITED STATES OF THE SOLAR SYSTEM*************
THE UNITED STATES OF THE SOLAR SYSTEM****THE SOLAR SYSTEM COUNCIL OF CHURCHES
*******U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights*******************1928 Book of Common Prayer*******
*************The Federalist Papers********************************The Desire of Ages*************
************J.S. Bach and G.F. Handel**************************J.S. Bach and G.F. Handel**********
**************Cathedral Context************************************Cathedral Context**************
Can you imagine meeting with Nazis, Masons, Jesuits, Alphabet Agents, Dracs, Greys, et al -- and engaging in really nasty and heated debates regarding solar system governance??!! This wouldn't be fun at all. I wouldn't wish this on anyone. Frankly, there are processes in motion, which are not going to be stopped in their tracks. Some things will probably have to run their course, so to speak. Once again, I have no idea what's really going on in this galaxy. One would probably have to shadow the Shadow Government for decades to have any proper understanding of how to properly participate in solar system governance, to any significant extent. I could be very wrong, but that's my impression. I've spoken rather boldly -- and I do desire significant changes -- yet I wish to be reasonable and rational regarding all of this. Perhaps this thread is similar to the proverbial 'hitting the donkey over the head with a two by four to get it's attention'. That's the easy part. The steps which follow are the hard part. In a very strange sort of way, I'm finding it useful to watch this video link while thinking about solar system governance. http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/90558-1 I'm not going to even attempt to explain why. Sometimes I think I'm allowed to continue this thread for purposes of self-incrimination and self-discreditation. In a sense, I seem to be doing this on purpose. I seem to wish to get a certain message out, while keeping myself out of sight. I don't know. I do NOT understand my pathetic life. But still, take the principles and concepts within this thread very seriously. At least read 'The Federalist Papers', the 1928 'Book of Common Prayer', and 'The Desire of Ages' over and over and over -- while listening to the music of J.S. Bach -- as a mental and spiritual exercise. Then, do what makes sense. Fair enough? Wouldn't it be cool to do a comparative study of the following?
1. Human psychology, spirituality, theology, ethics, law, business, economics, governance, history, genetics, sociology, biochemistry, anatomy, and physiology, etc.
2. Reptilian psychology, spirituality, theology, ethics, law, business, economics, governance, history, genetics, sociology, biochemistry, anatomy, and physiology, etc.
I continue to think that science-fiction is probably the proper arena for all of this -- with a strong emphasis on the scientific-method. Mind you, I still don't know if Reptilians and Greys actually exist. I also don't know the true nature of the soul -- human or otherwise. So really, this proposed project would still involve a helluva lot of speculation and imagination. However, if this hypothetical subject matter has some basis in reality, this might be the most important study imaginable. I continue to think that the City States and the Moon are probably the best conceptual context in which to contemplate all of this madness. I really should move to England -- and proceed to infiltrate and subvert the City of London!
Have you noticed how long Adam and Eve lived -- according to the biblical record? Close to 1,000 years! How long did humans live after the Flood -- according to the biblical record? Close to 100 years! We supposedly use less than 10% of our brain capacity! What the hell happened? What if Adam and Eve weren't really human? What if the creation (or genetic-engineering) of male and female human beings occurred AFTER the 'creation' of Adam and Eve? What if this 'Second Creation' constituted 'The Fall', 'The Original Sin', and 'The Unpardonable Sin' -- resulting in 'The War in Heaven' or 'The War in Eden'? What if Adam and Eve were Hermaphrodite Reptilians -- or at least some variation on that theme? I continue to think that the Bible is an EXTREMELY important book collection -- but that it just scratches the surface regarding who we are, and regarding our true history. I consider the Bible to be a Collection of Possibilities. It's almost as if the Bible is a Galactic IQ Test. How did you do?? How did the Human Race do?? Is Judgment Day really the day we all get our test scores? Will we all have to take the New Jerusalem Admission Test (NJAT)? We might all be VERY surprised by what's in store for us. What if there really is someone like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHTD4onNs-U I suspect that there is, but that the reality is probably quite a bit different than the 'V' series. Who knows what the hidden agendas are -- at all levels. The lie is different at every level. Sorry for the cynicism, but I'm rather wary and somber these days. I continue to think that the real truth concerning life, the universe, and everything is not a happy story. I also tend to think that the galactic struggle will be ongoing.
Here are a couple of my favorite songs. I've heard the artists live, and talked with them at least once. These are old, poor-quality recordings, but I love them anyway. I've sung the first one many times in church choirs. I even directed this song once (or was it 'God So Loved the World'?). Dr. Calvin Taylor is also a VERY skilled classical organist -- and he can improvise VERY well! Listen VERY carefully to the words!
1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7_10g41wJY
2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvshves7l88
When I was around three years old, I 'directed' some of the 'King's Heralds' from the back of an auditorium (standing on the seat, next to my mother) and made all of them smile! I think 'We Have This Hope' was the theme-song of a church conference I attended in Viena, Austria in 1975. The theme was 'Now is the Time'. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XrIp6VGM_k&feature=related I used to enjoy singing this one in the choir at the Crystal Cathedral. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWOd94YyIhg&feature=related
Did the Kingdom of God demote Jesus Christ (or a reincarnational precursor) because He was too loving and too much of a free-spirit? "Too bad that you were too good"??? "We're turning things over to someone who does exactly as they're told -- without asking questions or making suggestions"??? I don't know why I keep on asking these types of questions -- but shouldn't the most important topics be examined from all angles? Believe me when I say that I know how to give people what they want, and tell them what they want to hear. I can even make them cry. I really can. I almost became a televangelist, but I'm so glad I didn't. When you people find out who REALLY gives the BIGSHOT PREACHERS their marching orders -- You Will Be Shocked.
I have to ask once again, "What is the True Nature of the Soul?" Do we know what our souls REALLY look like? Someone's young son seemed to be in such a state of awareness, that he could view both a Disembodied Demonic Soul (which was terrorizing him) and his father's Good Soul (which was animating his own physical body) -- but it seemed as if both souls were not pleasant to look at -- and the boy was afraid of the 'attacker' AND his helpful and loving father. I'm not an expert. I'm just speculating. This reminds me of taking a phone-call in a church-office, with the caller requesting someone who could perform an exorcism. That was sort of creepy. Alex Collier (in his 1994 interview with Rick Keefe) stated that reptilians and humans had the same type of soul, and that they originated at the same time, but that they were at different levels of evolution. Please watch the interview for the exact wording and context. I keep thinking that humans are a recent innovation in an ancient reptilian universe. I have no proof. This is just more of my political and theological science-fiction.
I continue to be torn apart by most everything I post. I don't like this process one little bit. I'm really a rather passive researcher, but the more I learn, the more troubled I become. I really don't like the view from my present vantage point. I'm getting the impression of an Absolute Obedience Reptilian Universe -- with a Human Prison Planet in Rebellion (which is seeking to establish Male and Female Human Physicality, and Responsible Freedom) in an unyielding universe which seems to be determined to end this Illegal Experiment with terrible finality. We seem to threaten the stability of the universe. As far as I can tell, this experiment has been a mixed-bag of success and failure. What troubles me the most is that I see evidence of deliberately inflicted death, destruction, and corruption from sources outside of the human family. There seems to have been malevolent interference in the human experiment for many thousands of years. This negative intervention seems to be ongoing. Please read 'The Gods of Eden' by William Bramley -- for starters. What troubles me further, is that I keep wondering if humanity is really in the wrong, and deserves all of the misery which has been seemingly inflicted upon it? Who knows what unresolved ancient issues there might be? Who knows what ancient atrocities were committed? Who knows anything about anything ancient -- for certain? I can't take much more of this. I really can't.
One more thing. I have suggested the possibility of Evangelical Anglo-Catholicism. Yet I am haunted by a prophecy by Ellen White which foretells a threefold union of Catholicism, Spiritism, and Apostate-Protestantism. Is this the sort of fire I'm playing with? I do NOT encourage anything immoral or spooky. I don't do seances, regression-hypnosis, altered states of consciousness (although I seem to be living an otherworldly nightmare 24/7), out of body, strange rituals, strange chanting, sacrifices, etc, etc. I just research and reflect. That's all. I continue to be VERY fearful that my good intentions might be misused and abused in some rather horrifying ways. Focus on the principles and concepts in this thread -- but never focus on me personally. I could be set-up for a terrible fall. I once suggested this to a mysterious individual, who retorted "I could snap my fingers, and you'd be dead!"
Time is too slow for those who wait,
too swift for those who fear,
too long for those who grieve,
too short for those who rejoice,
but for those who love,
time is eternity.
--- Henry VanDyke
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orthodoxymoron wrote:Things seem to be out of control -- and I suspect that things will get a helluva lot worse. Why can't properly trained agents target terrorist threats in a very low key manner -- and just skip all of this public madness, which pits neighbor against neighbor, and drives the American people to their knees ?
Thats just It Oxy...
One always find Answers to the crazy stuff They do like this by looking where One has to regardless of how crazy that Answer may be...
In this case - Its only about Divide and Conquer...
So the Operation is now - Divide and Conquer the American People - Fold the Country into Itself after that and then become the Instrument of Force to coerce and / or beat the World into the New World Order by waging yet ANOTHER UNJUST War - As one of It's primary Antagonists...
That said, We cannot allow this to happen - BUT - Until We start seeing EN MASSE that the Answer is usually an uncomfortable one more often than not - We'll continue to have these questions remain unanswered and Their Answers obscure...
orthodoxymoron wrote:I suspect all of this terrorist hype has more to do with reigning-in the American people, than with legitimately preventing terrorism. There are many who accuse the Secret Government of being the real terrorists.
One could almost say It's Freudian actually.
> They wish to find the "Terrorists".
> They classify almost every one as a "Terrorist" at a certain stage.
Now - Why would basically good People be classed as "Terrorists" by Their own Government ?
Because They (The Government) know They're the real "Terrorists" and as an Ideal - They were supposed to have been the Protector of the People. As They are now not - The Freudian slip is that - They are the "Terrorists" - And Their persecution of the People is based on Them being "Terrorists"...
Madness...
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Thank-you Mercuriel. What's really strange about all of this madness, is how I am attempting to deal with it. I am attempting to see things from Everyone's Point of View -- including through the eyes of hypothetical alien beings, living in distant star systems. I continue to think with a somewhat Biblical Mindset, yet in an extremely unorthodox manner. I continue to be interested in the Monarchy, the Papacy, the Queen of Heaven, the God of This World, and God the Father -- often as if I were viewing everything through the eyes of Michael-Horus-Jesus. This is somewhat bizarre, to say the least. I'm also thinking of the possibility that Humanity is a Recent Illegal Subset of an Ancient Reptilian Race. This is even more bizarre. I continue to consider the possible existence of a hypothetical Orion-Sirius-Egyptian-Roman Empire -- adminstered in this solar system by a hypothetical Reincarnating Osiris-Isis-Horus-Set Royal Family -- for better and/or worse. I might have the names and places wrong, but I suspect something like this, going back tens of thousands of years. Might all of the above be the missing-link and common-denominator in understanding life, the universe, and everything? What if nearly all of the governments, religions, wars, economic catastrophies, crackdowns, and terrorist events were designed and ordered by Vengeful Deities? I listen to Alex Jones sometimes -- and sometimes I even get mad -- yet I keep thinking 'What's REALLY behind all of this madness?' The reality of our existence might be stranger and more horrible than most of us can imagine. I keep voicing various viewpoints and possibilities within this thread -- but I'm just another rebel without a clue. I'll keep modeling this basic approach -- not because I think I'm right -- but simply to provide serious researchers with another perspective. The punishment, human-sacrifice, retribution, exploitation, and utter-destruction themes -- at the galactic-level -- keep creeping into my consciousness. How many levels of power and deception really exist? Is some of the transparent stupidity really staged stupidity rather than genuine blundering and incompetence? With all of the available technology and resources, why was 9/11 such a blunderingly transparent mess? Was this by design? I really wonder. I don't trust anyone or anything anymore -- not even God -- and not even myself. Now I just research, reflect, and question -- in a scholarly and devotional manner -- as sort of a back of the room smart@$$ (or is it dumb@$$?).
I'm having a difficult time absorbing my own thread and ideas. Is there any way to really win the infowar. I doubt it. Thrashing Without End! Seriously, I find it helpful to periodically watch 'The Ring of Power'. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w-A54h_GQ8&feature=related This is still hard for me to listen to and watch. I still like to believe the best about people. This world is more corrupt than hell, and that's pretty damn corrupt. I don't necessarily endorse the information presented in the documentary, but I think that it should be carefully examined, point by point. Exposure and Resistance is Victory and Reformation.
Our fate might be mentality destruction, rather than a physical one. Are we facing a global psychological, theological, political, and ethical meltdown -- with transitional chaos and violence -- which ultimately results in a Really Nasty Other Than Human Theocracy? I really wonder. I seem to have a love-hate relationship with the Monarchy and the Papacy. They really seem to be a mixed-bag. What if Vengeful Deities ordered the Roman Catholic Church to do all of those horrible historical things? What if they really were being obedient to 'God'? Consider this hard to watch video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rx8PdvOELvY If that's not enough, read 'Foxe's Book of the Martyrs'. Consider reading 'In God's Name' by David Yallop -- and 'Murder in the Vatican' by Lucien Gregoire. Also, the books by Malachi Martin are balanced and well-researched. I especially like 'The Jesuits' and 'The Keys of This Blood' by Malachi Martin. I look at the intrigue and dark material, with an eye to reforming the worst aspects, and positively-reinforcing the best aspects, of this ancient and contemporary religious and political heirarchical institution. I'm not opposed to BIG BUSINESS -- Even in the Church. I AM opposed to CORRUPT BIG BUSINESS -- Especially in the Church. I have heard that the solar system is run by a 'Bitchy Reptilian Queen' -- but I have no idea if this is the case. However, if we live in a Harsh and Theocratic Reptilian Universe -- might such a Queen be necessary? Would a Galactically Approved United States of the Solar System have to be administered by a Kinder and Gentler Anna (in 'V')? Would Responsible Freedom need to be enforced with an Iron Fist? Would the hypothetical Orion-Sirius-Egyptian-Roman Empire insist on it? A very deep study of solar system governance probably would drive most people to some level of insanity. I support freedom of speech, and I even support the infowar (support our troops) -- yet freedom must be exercised in a responsible manner -- or it will cease to exist.
I will continue to attempt to deal with the reality of an infiltrated and subverted United States of America -- by dealing with an idealistic and hypothetical United States of the Solar System. Perhaps this is a bit of a cowardly and 'head in the sand' approach -- but I think I am attempting to deal with the root and core of the real problems. I think we have a basically good world -- that's horribly out of control. The Feds should end the FED!! My politics and religion are now mostly Political and Theological Science-Fiction. This is NOT the stuff healthy minds and lives are made of. I honestly don't know who the good-guys and bad-guys are anymore, so I just keep asking questions. Here's a further development of my particular brand of sci-fi. Given a particular type of soul -- disembodied -- in a reptilian-vessel -- or in a human-vessel -- there might be demonic, angelic, and in-between versions of this common soul model. Sometimes it seems as if a Malevolent Soul (Sans Container) is the attacker -- and that we are mostly Benevolent Souls in Human Containers. Sometimes these souls seem to be clearly visible (when one is in an altered state of consciousness). Mind you, this is merely theoretical. Perhaps a Renegade Reptilian Queen decided to engage in some Forbidden Genetic and Social Engineering in the Garden of Eden -- for who knows what reasons? Just more speculation. The horror.
I'm not qualified to question or judge the Thuban and Red-Pill material, and I wonder how many individuals (human or otherwise) really understand it? I've had to approach 'knowing' from completely different sources and directions. I fear that a lot of this information might be very true and real, yet it seems to lack a proper introduction and context. It seems to be a truncated section of some vast unified and elegant whole. I have similar difficulty with a lot of the 'modern' science and technology, which is often very cool, yet which seems to lack proper introduction and responsible application. For example, medical technology, medical procedures, and medical personnel seem to be worshipped in the Hospital-Temples of the World -- yet Proper Prevention would yield vastly superior physical and mental health -- for a fraction of the cost. But this might circumvent and subvert the Military-Medical-Space Industrial-Complex. I'm sort of rambling, but do you see my point?
I really need to stop thrashing -- and continue writing. I think I need to let everything settle. I really do not wish to be a 'problem' to anyone. I truly wish to be a 'solution' for everyone. I'm not sure exactly why I said that, but it sounded sort of cool. In a sense, I feel as if I might need to just 'start over', and move in a completely different direction, so as to not sink into an ever-deepening rut. I sometimes wonder who is really more dangerous -- those who know too much -- or those who know too little? I suspect that those who are in-between pose the greatest threat. They know enough to get into trouble -- but not enough to get out (and stay out) of trouble. I'm probably in the middle of the spectrum right now -- so I should probably shut-up.
Regarding a potential book project, while I might welcome 'inside' participation -- this might invite 'insider manipulation'! How would an 'insider' resist the temptation??? I have no idea how to properly do the question and answer thing. There's probably no 'right way' to do it. What might be interesting, is if I continued with my little tempest in a teapot, and eventually published it (with the proper editing and critiquing [as opposed to censorship]). Then, it might be interesting if the 'right' insider or insiders produced 'their' version of question answering. Finally, it might be supremely interesting if the two projects were somehow combined in a complimentary manner by the 'proper' editing and publishing team. I have no idea what the hell I'm talking about. I'm just rambling -- so I should probably shut-up.
One more thing. In the now familiar governance model, what if God and the King and Queen of the United States of the Solar System were mostly Observational, Ceremonial, and Ambassadorial? What if God exercised authority mostly as an Authority of Last Resort? My including specific sources on the Solar System Council of Churches side, is intended to give this concept some substance and direction, in contrast with anarchy or a creepy free-for-all. It does not imply an Official Solar System Religion, which might be enforced by force. It mostly implies ceremonial structure, as a given historical point of reference, if you will. I really need some input on all of this. The silence is unbelievably creepy to me. It's like the quiet before the storm. Things might get a helluva lot worse -- before they get better -- if they get better. Are we approaching a Final Jihad? Don't take your eyes off Damascus! Don't even blink! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJjdbFn5Tgk Sirius A v Sirius B? That reminds me! I need to finish reading 'The Final Jihad' by Martin Keating. I started it a couple of years ago, and then I got interested in some damn conspiracy theory, and stopped reading the book. My life is so complex and confusing. I'm so confused -- so I should probably shut-up.
I'm having a difficult time absorbing my own thread and ideas. Is there any way to really win the infowar. I doubt it. Thrashing Without End! Seriously, I find it helpful to periodically watch 'The Ring of Power'. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w-A54h_GQ8&feature=related This is still hard for me to listen to and watch. I still like to believe the best about people. This world is more corrupt than hell, and that's pretty damn corrupt. I don't necessarily endorse the information presented in the documentary, but I think that it should be carefully examined, point by point. Exposure and Resistance is Victory and Reformation.
Our fate might be mentality destruction, rather than a physical one. Are we facing a global psychological, theological, political, and ethical meltdown -- with transitional chaos and violence -- which ultimately results in a Really Nasty Other Than Human Theocracy? I really wonder. I seem to have a love-hate relationship with the Monarchy and the Papacy. They really seem to be a mixed-bag. What if Vengeful Deities ordered the Roman Catholic Church to do all of those horrible historical things? What if they really were being obedient to 'God'? Consider this hard to watch video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rx8PdvOELvY If that's not enough, read 'Foxe's Book of the Martyrs'. Consider reading 'In God's Name' by David Yallop -- and 'Murder in the Vatican' by Lucien Gregoire. Also, the books by Malachi Martin are balanced and well-researched. I especially like 'The Jesuits' and 'The Keys of This Blood' by Malachi Martin. I look at the intrigue and dark material, with an eye to reforming the worst aspects, and positively-reinforcing the best aspects, of this ancient and contemporary religious and political heirarchical institution. I'm not opposed to BIG BUSINESS -- Even in the Church. I AM opposed to CORRUPT BIG BUSINESS -- Especially in the Church. I have heard that the solar system is run by a 'Bitchy Reptilian Queen' -- but I have no idea if this is the case. However, if we live in a Harsh and Theocratic Reptilian Universe -- might such a Queen be necessary? Would a Galactically Approved United States of the Solar System have to be administered by a Kinder and Gentler Anna (in 'V')? Would Responsible Freedom need to be enforced with an Iron Fist? Would the hypothetical Orion-Sirius-Egyptian-Roman Empire insist on it? A very deep study of solar system governance probably would drive most people to some level of insanity. I support freedom of speech, and I even support the infowar (support our troops) -- yet freedom must be exercised in a responsible manner -- or it will cease to exist.
I will continue to attempt to deal with the reality of an infiltrated and subverted United States of America -- by dealing with an idealistic and hypothetical United States of the Solar System. Perhaps this is a bit of a cowardly and 'head in the sand' approach -- but I think I am attempting to deal with the root and core of the real problems. I think we have a basically good world -- that's horribly out of control. The Feds should end the FED!! My politics and religion are now mostly Political and Theological Science-Fiction. This is NOT the stuff healthy minds and lives are made of. I honestly don't know who the good-guys and bad-guys are anymore, so I just keep asking questions. Here's a further development of my particular brand of sci-fi. Given a particular type of soul -- disembodied -- in a reptilian-vessel -- or in a human-vessel -- there might be demonic, angelic, and in-between versions of this common soul model. Sometimes it seems as if a Malevolent Soul (Sans Container) is the attacker -- and that we are mostly Benevolent Souls in Human Containers. Sometimes these souls seem to be clearly visible (when one is in an altered state of consciousness). Mind you, this is merely theoretical. Perhaps a Renegade Reptilian Queen decided to engage in some Forbidden Genetic and Social Engineering in the Garden of Eden -- for who knows what reasons? Just more speculation. The horror.
I'm not qualified to question or judge the Thuban and Red-Pill material, and I wonder how many individuals (human or otherwise) really understand it? I've had to approach 'knowing' from completely different sources and directions. I fear that a lot of this information might be very true and real, yet it seems to lack a proper introduction and context. It seems to be a truncated section of some vast unified and elegant whole. I have similar difficulty with a lot of the 'modern' science and technology, which is often very cool, yet which seems to lack proper introduction and responsible application. For example, medical technology, medical procedures, and medical personnel seem to be worshipped in the Hospital-Temples of the World -- yet Proper Prevention would yield vastly superior physical and mental health -- for a fraction of the cost. But this might circumvent and subvert the Military-Medical-Space Industrial-Complex. I'm sort of rambling, but do you see my point?
I really need to stop thrashing -- and continue writing. I think I need to let everything settle. I really do not wish to be a 'problem' to anyone. I truly wish to be a 'solution' for everyone. I'm not sure exactly why I said that, but it sounded sort of cool. In a sense, I feel as if I might need to just 'start over', and move in a completely different direction, so as to not sink into an ever-deepening rut. I sometimes wonder who is really more dangerous -- those who know too much -- or those who know too little? I suspect that those who are in-between pose the greatest threat. They know enough to get into trouble -- but not enough to get out (and stay out) of trouble. I'm probably in the middle of the spectrum right now -- so I should probably shut-up.
Regarding a potential book project, while I might welcome 'inside' participation -- this might invite 'insider manipulation'! How would an 'insider' resist the temptation??? I have no idea how to properly do the question and answer thing. There's probably no 'right way' to do it. What might be interesting, is if I continued with my little tempest in a teapot, and eventually published it (with the proper editing and critiquing [as opposed to censorship]). Then, it might be interesting if the 'right' insider or insiders produced 'their' version of question answering. Finally, it might be supremely interesting if the two projects were somehow combined in a complimentary manner by the 'proper' editing and publishing team. I have no idea what the hell I'm talking about. I'm just rambling -- so I should probably shut-up.
One more thing. In the now familiar governance model, what if God and the King and Queen of the United States of the Solar System were mostly Observational, Ceremonial, and Ambassadorial? What if God exercised authority mostly as an Authority of Last Resort? My including specific sources on the Solar System Council of Churches side, is intended to give this concept some substance and direction, in contrast with anarchy or a creepy free-for-all. It does not imply an Official Solar System Religion, which might be enforced by force. It mostly implies ceremonial structure, as a given historical point of reference, if you will. I really need some input on all of this. The silence is unbelievably creepy to me. It's like the quiet before the storm. Things might get a helluva lot worse -- before they get better -- if they get better. Are we approaching a Final Jihad? Don't take your eyes off Damascus! Don't even blink! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJjdbFn5Tgk Sirius A v Sirius B? That reminds me! I need to finish reading 'The Final Jihad' by Martin Keating. I started it a couple of years ago, and then I got interested in some damn conspiracy theory, and stopped reading the book. My life is so complex and confusing. I'm so confused -- so I should probably shut-up.
**************************************************GOD**************************************************
*************THE KING AND QUEEN OF THE UNITED STATES OF THE SOLAR SYSTEM*************
THE UNITED STATES OF THE SOLAR SYSTEM****THE SOLAR SYSTEM COUNCIL OF CHURCHES
*******U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights*******************1928 Book of Common Prayer*******
*************The Federalist Papers********************************The Desire of Ages*************
************J.S. Bach and G.F. Handel**************************J.S. Bach and G.F. Handel**********
**************Cathedral Context************************************Cathedral Context**************
Artist's Conception of the new United States of the Solar System Headquarters aka The Messiah Complex.
*************THE KING AND QUEEN OF THE UNITED STATES OF THE SOLAR SYSTEM*************
THE UNITED STATES OF THE SOLAR SYSTEM****THE SOLAR SYSTEM COUNCIL OF CHURCHES
*******U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights*******************1928 Book of Common Prayer*******
*************The Federalist Papers********************************The Desire of Ages*************
************J.S. Bach and G.F. Handel**************************J.S. Bach and G.F. Handel**********
**************Cathedral Context************************************Cathedral Context**************
Artist's Conception of the new United States of the Solar System Headquarters aka The Messiah Complex.
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I respect President Obama, and the Office of the Presidency -- but these images are just too funny not to post! The second one is probably based on Obama's reaction to reading the Top-Secret Orthodoxymoron Files!
Why am I rocking back a forth in the corner of a strange room? Why can't I move my arms? What is that strange little grey-man doing with that great big syringe??? Don't vaccinate me bro!!! Aaaaaaaaaaarrrgghh!!! Better Dead Than Rep!!! Long Live the Fifth-Column!!! Aaaaaaaaaarrrgghh!!! John May Lives!!! Elvis Presley Lives!!! Long Live Orthodoxymoron!!! Aaaaaaaaaarrrgghh!!! The Lord is My Shepherd -- But Just in Case -- I Shall Not Talk!!! Aaaaaaaaaarrrgghh!!!
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Welcome to the Orthodoxymoron Online Church for the Unchurched (OOCU). http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t4173-essential-minimalist-traditionalist-theology The theory is that there are key books of the Bible, and that they should be focused upon. I have tentatively selected the Psalms (most by King David) as the key Old Testament book -- the Gospel According to Matthew as the key Gospel book -- and the Epistle to the Hebrews as the key New Testament book. Then, I have tentatively selected 'The Desire of Ages' by Ellen White as the key Devotional Life of Christ -- which interprets the entire Bible from the perspective of the Life and Teachings of Jesus Christ. I am merely suggesting that you consider reading straight through the first three pages of this linked thread -- over and over -- and then simply thinking and doing what makes sense to YOU. This is a Selected Narrative Approach, rather than a Proof-Text Methodology. This is designed to elevate your level of spirituality. I am not in bed with any particular church, preacher, or guru. I just think that this type of a devotional study should supplement your esoteric research. It's a jungle out there -- and I fear that a lot of people are being eaten-alive in the intensifying infowar -- which seems to be mostly a spiritual war. I really worry when I post this sort of thread, and there is absolutely no interest. Once again, I seem to be in conflict with Myself, Divinity, and Humanity -- in a very idealistic manner. However, I seem to be fighting a losing battle. I think this thing has been going on for a very long time -- and things seem to be worsening in rather profound ways. The hypothetical factional fighting scares the hell out of me -- as does the possibility of a Rebellious and Irresponsible Human Island existing in a Hostile and Theocratic Reptilian Universe. I have no inside information or associations -- so this continues to be a guessing-game for me. I'll continue to quietly pursue this tempest in a teapot -- rather than making a great, big deal about it -- and then falling flat on my face, because I don't know what the hell I'm doing. There are advantages to NOT vibrating fast enough -- acting crazy -- and living like a tramp. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9KQT4BeRMY&feature=related Consider rewatching 'The Agony and the Ecstasy'. Think about this thread as you watch. Think long and hard. What if I really am crazy -- like a fox?! https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=THW-5OUTSt8 I'm cracking up -- and things are so bad -- that I'm on the verge of cracking down.
1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAKEIsJpk0w
2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i14NkEcaIIk&feature=related
3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEJOKdtDe0I&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PLDE9F65D9E1E4371B (Sorry, I couldn't find the whole movie.)
Jesus said 'Seek Ye First the Kingdom of God, and His Righteousness'. Was He really saying 'Study Who God Is -- What He is Like -- and How He Runs the Universe'? Is the Nature of God - and How God Runs the Universe -- Determinitive Regarding Solar System Governance? Is the Human Race really a Fly in the Ointment? I have spoken of 'Human Sovereignty' -- but I do NOT wish to operate independently, and in opposition to, a Genuinely Good and Loving God. I mostly wish to rid this solar system of horrific activity of all kinds -- including demonic activity, human sacrifices, child abuse, sick rituals, alien abductions, horrible genetics experiments, torture of all kinds, murder, atrocities, terrorism, warfare, enslavement, corruption, cruelty, etc, etc, etc. When I have spoken of 'Having No Gods' I am really referring to 'False Gods' -- not to a Genuinely Good and Loving God. I have intended 'The United States of the Solar System' concept as a methodology of cleaning up the crap which exists within this solar system. I am not shaking my fist at a Genuinely Good and Loving God -- but I am shaking.
What if there was a significant Nazi-Mason-Jesuit component to the United States of America -- right from the beginning? What if this thing goes back to the Knights Templer, Teutonic Knights, the Holy Roman Empire, etc? What if this really goes back into Ancient Egypt? (remember the back of the dollar bill, and the Washington Monument, etc?) Consider once more the possibility of an Orion-Sirius-Egyptian-Roman Empire, administered in this solar system by a hypothetical Reincarnating Osiris-Isis-Horus-Set Royal Family. What if the 'Government Bureaucrats' really work for this hypothetical hidden empire? What if they are simply 'following orders'? I'm trying not to burn my bridges with anyone, including the secret government. We obviously need law and order. We need structure and organization. But what if this possible empire is other than human, and what if they don't like us one little bit? What if the human race is a Recent Illegal Subset of an Ancient Reptilian Race? If any of the above is even partially true, we might be in deeper do-do than we can ever comprehend. The Rockefellers, Rothschilds, and Bush's might be low-level errand boys. Really and truly. Remember the Mental Hospitals in the former Soviet Union? As I have considered various alternatives to the way things seem to be in this solar system -- I have been very careful to NOT become anti-government. A steady diet of anti-government material might very well drive certain people crazy. I've tentatively settled upon Idealistic Political and Theological Science Fiction as my Modus Operandi for Dealing with the Madness.
I suspect an Ancient Reptilian v Human Civil War of Sorts -- but I have no clue regarding the details. I continue to be VERY apprehensive and upset regarding who I might really be reincarnationally. I live in a perpetual state of fear, and even terror. I really do. Solar System Governance relative to Universe Governance REALLY terrorizes me. I also have no idea what we are REALLY dealing with in this solar system. I continue to get 'The Silent Treatment'. It's as if this is a Big Galactic Joke -- possibly on me. I am EXTREMELY apprehensive. My misery and disorientation are at critical levels. The stakes might be higher than I can possibly comprehend. You have no idea how dark my thoughts are, most of the time. I really hate to have to keep guessing and talking to myself on this thread -- while everyone is seemingly scoffing and laughing behind my back. I wish to reiterate my fear that we might be in the process of jumping out of the frying-pan and into the fire. I'm truly not a 'peace at any price' kind of guy. I'll keep asking hard questions -- even if things seemingly go in the direction I desire. Remember what happened with the 'idealism' of Communism -- and even the 'idealism' of the Third Reich? I get the distinct impression that the Secret Rulers of This Solar System do NOT like to lose -- and that they are NOT about to peacefully pass the baton to the 'New Guy' -- whoever that might be. They'd probably rather fight to the death than switch. I truly fear for the survival and responsible freedom of the human race.
As I have stated many times, if Dracs and Greys were non-demonic, and I knew they wouldn't harm me in any way, or abduct and enslave me -- I wouldn't have a problem dealing with them on a daily basis -- or travelling through space with them on one of their ships. I also wouldn't have a problem working with reformed Nazis, Masons, and Jesuits -- who might know a helluva lot, and who might be highly competent. I just want all of the goddamn bullshit to cease and desist in this solar system. Do I have to explain what I'm talking about? If you are more concerned about my language than you are concerned about the implications and ramifications of this thread -- then YOU are part of the problem I'm talking about.
I don't have an ET experience -- unless seeing UFO's and dealing with someone who claimed to be an Ancient Egyptian Deity counts. I've been rather tight-lipped about this close encounter -- but I have related select portions of this experience within 'The United States of the Solar System' thread -- especially in recent months -- as more and more time passes since the contact. There was no demand that I not talk about this -- but I considered this close encounter to be mostly 'off the record'. I think the contact probably occurred because of my internet activities. I don't seek this sort of thing at all. I don't experiment or dabble. I grew-up as a fairly Conservative Christian in a church which discouraged anything of that nature -- and I think for legitimate reasons. However, I do sometimes like to read about what others have encountered -- even though I feel very disoriented when I do so.
Jesus spoke of human-beings being 'Like the Angels' -- and NOT marrying following the 'Resurrection'. Was Jesus saying that Male and Female Human Physicality Will End? Knowing what I know now -- is Jesus, in effect, saying that those who 'Go to Heaven' will be Hermaphrodite Reptilians? Doesn't the Bible speak of 'Sinful Flesh' not entering 'Heaven'? Will the 'saved elect' have 'glorified' (or non-human?) bodies? Didn't John the Revelator speak of a 'Dragon in Heaven'? Michael was 'Wroth with the Dragon' and there was 'War in Heaven'. Does this imply that Heaven is a Reptilian Kingdom? Is the Kingdom of God a Hermaphrodite Reptilian Theocracy? I HAVE NO IDEA -- but if the Human Race is on the chopping-block, now might be an excellent time to think this through. If an extermination occurs, there might be no going back. I keep feeling as if the human race is hanging on by a very thin thread. I also keep worrying that the human race did something in antiquity which REALLY angered an 'other than human' race. Could the hypothetical Destruction of Maldek -- and a hypothetical Race War in Ancient Egypt have something to do with this? In the Genesis Creation Story "Male and Female Created He Them" could mean separate male and female beings -- or it could mean hermaphrodite beings. Consider the 'Babylonian Genesis'. Consider 'The Mind of the Maker' by Dorothy Sayers. "Maker of All Things. Maker of Ill Things?" Who created Black Widow Spiders and Rattlesnakes? Who sent the 'Firey Serpents' to bite and kill the people in the Old Testament wilderness story?
I'm seeing a lot more esoteric material in the mainstream media. Do most people really care about this sort of thing? Would those who go insane in connection with all of this madness, go insane with or without the upsetting information? Is there some sort of an Insanity Bell Curve? I feel somewhat at home with the madness -- even though my functional level is at an all-time low. I feel like a really slow spyware and backdoor infiltrated 286 computer. It really is that bad. But I also feel as if in a previous incarnation that I might've been in the middle of a helluva lot really heavy stuff -- including the dark Church and Reich horrors. The internal conflict is almost too much. In a way, I'm just fine -- but in another way, I'm almost finished. You'd be amazed at what I think about. If I survive, on a soul-level, I do NOT expect happiness - EVER. The problems will probably just keep attacking my consciousness -- for all eternity. This really isn't something to look forward to, is it? I hate to say it, but I often feel somewhat like the writer of this very sad internet post. http://www.thoughts.com/Tony51203/the-cruel-joke
Once again, I've made some comments regarding Rome and San Francisco, in connection with potential pipe-organ projects. I think this would be extremely cool, but again, I don't know the circumstances. I mostly am interested in having very strong music programs in the large churches and cathedrals of the world. This dovetails with my 1928 'Book of Common Prayer' talk. This is all about a Royal Model Church Service in the large churches and cathedrals of the world -- especially those with classical architecture. I am not opposed to Alternative Churches and Contemporary Services. I am merely thinking in terms of a Representative Classical Core of Reformed Minimalist Tradition -- with an eye toward Evolutionary Innovation -- which enhances true spirituality and rational devotion.
I'm going to tentatively predict some sort of a war involving people (who aren't really people) -- people who have undergone massive training and programming -- and people who are perfectly possessed -- who talk really fast and are really smart -- yet who are NOT on the side of Responsible Humanity and True Righteousness. I think that Trans-Humanism is very real -- and that it will play a huge part in the Impending Conflict aka Final Jihad. I mean well -- but I have undergone no special training or programming -- I am completely human (as far as I know) -- and I seem to be ruthlessly attacked by demonic spirits (rather than being perfectly possessed by them) -- so in many ways, I'm probably no match for what's coming, even though I think this thread is an excellent boot-camp for dealing with the madness. At this point, rewatch the original "V" series, and both seasons of the recent remake of "V". Consider "V" as being "just the beginning" and as being a "conceptual crutch". The horror.
I like listening to John Lear -- regardless of the validity of his claims. I like his presentation. My Quest of the Historical Jesus has morphed into the Quest for the Historical Horus. The Bible contains a helluva lot of truth -- but I think it also contains a helluva lot of BS. We just don't know the circumstances under which it was really written. I consider the Bible to be a Collection of Clues and Possibilities. I support a multidisciplinary and eclectic search for truth -- which includes listening to John Lear.
I'm thinking about moving in a new direction. I'm thinking of focusing on radio broadcasting, neuropsychology, meteorology, astrophysics, theoretical physics, cosmology, philosophy, reading, chess, aikido, tennis, bowling, woodworking, and cooking.
If this solar system is full of various types of humans and reptilians -- with a wide variety of cultures -- how would a United States of the Solar System work? Would Dracs move next door to me? Would Greys live across the street? What if the Dracs dominated the Senate? What if the Greys dominated the House? I like my ideas, on paper -- but what would the reality be? Should everyone basically stay where they are right now? Should the solar system be completely human? I have no idea what we're really dealing with, but my preference is that human beings should probably continue living on Earth, as they do presently, without 'alien' race 'integration' -- but in a much more responsible manner. The situation of any 'other than human' races should probably be considered on a case by case basis. I like the idea of interacting with various beings, yet I presently lean toward this solar system being mostly human. Again, I have no idea regarding the true state of affairs in this solar system, galaxy, and universe. Reading a couple of paragraphs of a Cosmic Clearance Document might invalidate this entire thread, and all of my bright ideas. I really believe that.
How do my 9.5 Theses and Orthodoxymoron Guidestone relate to my more recent Solar System Governance Model? I like the general concepts - but I feel really uneasy and troubled regarding the past, present, and future. I have no idea which way to jump. A big problem is that I have no idea what all of the hidden agendas are (including my own). Do all of the below harmonize with each other -- or does the governance model (in blue) contradict the Theses and the Guidestone (in black). All of this is really scaring me. I could sure use some input.
9.5 Theses:
1. Replace Canon Law with the Teachings of Jesus.
2. Institute a Modified Latin Mass (with no communion - emphasizing the remembrance of Christ and His Teachings - rather than His Sacrifice) - offering Masses seven days a week - with no preference regarding the day or days of attendance.
3. Base All Homilies, Theology, and Ritual Upon the Teachings of Jesus.
4. Eliminate Penance and Confession (replacing both with psychological and spiritual counseling).
5. Allow Women to be Priests and Popes.
6. Allow Priests to Marry and Popes to Marry (and eliminate all blasphemous titles).
7. Eliminate All Crucifixes (The bloody, dying, and mostly naked Jesus should not be paraded and displayed).
8. Be Completely Honest Regarding the History of the Church, the World, the Solar System, the Galaxy, and the Universe.
9. Institute a Program of Responsible Reproduction (lifting the ban on birth-control).
9.5. Base Civil and Church Governance on the U.S. Constitution.
ORTHODOXYMORON GUIDESTONE:
1. BASE THIS SOLAR SYSTEM UPON RESPONSIBILITY AND THE U.S. CONSTITUTION.
2. MAINTAIN AN EARTH HUMAN POPULATION OF FOUR BILLION (TWO BILLION SURFACE - TWO BILLION SUBSURFACE) AND FOUR BILLION THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE SOLAR SYSTEM (MOSTLY SUBSURFACE).
3. BASE PHYSICAL, MENTAL, AND SPIRITUAL HEALTH UPON PREVENTION.
4. MAINTAIN A PRISTINE ENVIRONMENT.
5. USE ELECTRICAL POWER FOR NEARLY EVERYTHING, AND UTILIZE MAGNETO-LEVITON TRAINS FOR MOST GLOBAL TRANSPORTATION.
Once again, I am NOT shouting this sort of thing from the Seven Hills of Rome. This is mostly intended to quietly make myself and others think and grow -- mentally and spiritually. I am truly mystified by the fact that few wish to talk to me about the most important subjects imaginable. I am also mystified regarding what REALLY happened around the time the original Project Avalon shut-down. Finally, I am mystified by what happened in the summer of 2011. Some of you know EXACTLY what I'm talking about. What the Hell is Going On??? Why the Stonewall of Silence???
1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAKEIsJpk0w
2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i14NkEcaIIk&feature=related
3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEJOKdtDe0I&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PLDE9F65D9E1E4371B (Sorry, I couldn't find the whole movie.)
Jesus said 'Seek Ye First the Kingdom of God, and His Righteousness'. Was He really saying 'Study Who God Is -- What He is Like -- and How He Runs the Universe'? Is the Nature of God - and How God Runs the Universe -- Determinitive Regarding Solar System Governance? Is the Human Race really a Fly in the Ointment? I have spoken of 'Human Sovereignty' -- but I do NOT wish to operate independently, and in opposition to, a Genuinely Good and Loving God. I mostly wish to rid this solar system of horrific activity of all kinds -- including demonic activity, human sacrifices, child abuse, sick rituals, alien abductions, horrible genetics experiments, torture of all kinds, murder, atrocities, terrorism, warfare, enslavement, corruption, cruelty, etc, etc, etc. When I have spoken of 'Having No Gods' I am really referring to 'False Gods' -- not to a Genuinely Good and Loving God. I have intended 'The United States of the Solar System' concept as a methodology of cleaning up the crap which exists within this solar system. I am not shaking my fist at a Genuinely Good and Loving God -- but I am shaking.
What if there was a significant Nazi-Mason-Jesuit component to the United States of America -- right from the beginning? What if this thing goes back to the Knights Templer, Teutonic Knights, the Holy Roman Empire, etc? What if this really goes back into Ancient Egypt? (remember the back of the dollar bill, and the Washington Monument, etc?) Consider once more the possibility of an Orion-Sirius-Egyptian-Roman Empire, administered in this solar system by a hypothetical Reincarnating Osiris-Isis-Horus-Set Royal Family. What if the 'Government Bureaucrats' really work for this hypothetical hidden empire? What if they are simply 'following orders'? I'm trying not to burn my bridges with anyone, including the secret government. We obviously need law and order. We need structure and organization. But what if this possible empire is other than human, and what if they don't like us one little bit? What if the human race is a Recent Illegal Subset of an Ancient Reptilian Race? If any of the above is even partially true, we might be in deeper do-do than we can ever comprehend. The Rockefellers, Rothschilds, and Bush's might be low-level errand boys. Really and truly. Remember the Mental Hospitals in the former Soviet Union? As I have considered various alternatives to the way things seem to be in this solar system -- I have been very careful to NOT become anti-government. A steady diet of anti-government material might very well drive certain people crazy. I've tentatively settled upon Idealistic Political and Theological Science Fiction as my Modus Operandi for Dealing with the Madness.
I suspect an Ancient Reptilian v Human Civil War of Sorts -- but I have no clue regarding the details. I continue to be VERY apprehensive and upset regarding who I might really be reincarnationally. I live in a perpetual state of fear, and even terror. I really do. Solar System Governance relative to Universe Governance REALLY terrorizes me. I also have no idea what we are REALLY dealing with in this solar system. I continue to get 'The Silent Treatment'. It's as if this is a Big Galactic Joke -- possibly on me. I am EXTREMELY apprehensive. My misery and disorientation are at critical levels. The stakes might be higher than I can possibly comprehend. You have no idea how dark my thoughts are, most of the time. I really hate to have to keep guessing and talking to myself on this thread -- while everyone is seemingly scoffing and laughing behind my back. I wish to reiterate my fear that we might be in the process of jumping out of the frying-pan and into the fire. I'm truly not a 'peace at any price' kind of guy. I'll keep asking hard questions -- even if things seemingly go in the direction I desire. Remember what happened with the 'idealism' of Communism -- and even the 'idealism' of the Third Reich? I get the distinct impression that the Secret Rulers of This Solar System do NOT like to lose -- and that they are NOT about to peacefully pass the baton to the 'New Guy' -- whoever that might be. They'd probably rather fight to the death than switch. I truly fear for the survival and responsible freedom of the human race.
As I have stated many times, if Dracs and Greys were non-demonic, and I knew they wouldn't harm me in any way, or abduct and enslave me -- I wouldn't have a problem dealing with them on a daily basis -- or travelling through space with them on one of their ships. I also wouldn't have a problem working with reformed Nazis, Masons, and Jesuits -- who might know a helluva lot, and who might be highly competent. I just want all of the goddamn bullshit to cease and desist in this solar system. Do I have to explain what I'm talking about? If you are more concerned about my language than you are concerned about the implications and ramifications of this thread -- then YOU are part of the problem I'm talking about.
I don't have an ET experience -- unless seeing UFO's and dealing with someone who claimed to be an Ancient Egyptian Deity counts. I've been rather tight-lipped about this close encounter -- but I have related select portions of this experience within 'The United States of the Solar System' thread -- especially in recent months -- as more and more time passes since the contact. There was no demand that I not talk about this -- but I considered this close encounter to be mostly 'off the record'. I think the contact probably occurred because of my internet activities. I don't seek this sort of thing at all. I don't experiment or dabble. I grew-up as a fairly Conservative Christian in a church which discouraged anything of that nature -- and I think for legitimate reasons. However, I do sometimes like to read about what others have encountered -- even though I feel very disoriented when I do so.
Jesus spoke of human-beings being 'Like the Angels' -- and NOT marrying following the 'Resurrection'. Was Jesus saying that Male and Female Human Physicality Will End? Knowing what I know now -- is Jesus, in effect, saying that those who 'Go to Heaven' will be Hermaphrodite Reptilians? Doesn't the Bible speak of 'Sinful Flesh' not entering 'Heaven'? Will the 'saved elect' have 'glorified' (or non-human?) bodies? Didn't John the Revelator speak of a 'Dragon in Heaven'? Michael was 'Wroth with the Dragon' and there was 'War in Heaven'. Does this imply that Heaven is a Reptilian Kingdom? Is the Kingdom of God a Hermaphrodite Reptilian Theocracy? I HAVE NO IDEA -- but if the Human Race is on the chopping-block, now might be an excellent time to think this through. If an extermination occurs, there might be no going back. I keep feeling as if the human race is hanging on by a very thin thread. I also keep worrying that the human race did something in antiquity which REALLY angered an 'other than human' race. Could the hypothetical Destruction of Maldek -- and a hypothetical Race War in Ancient Egypt have something to do with this? In the Genesis Creation Story "Male and Female Created He Them" could mean separate male and female beings -- or it could mean hermaphrodite beings. Consider the 'Babylonian Genesis'. Consider 'The Mind of the Maker' by Dorothy Sayers. "Maker of All Things. Maker of Ill Things?" Who created Black Widow Spiders and Rattlesnakes? Who sent the 'Firey Serpents' to bite and kill the people in the Old Testament wilderness story?
I'm seeing a lot more esoteric material in the mainstream media. Do most people really care about this sort of thing? Would those who go insane in connection with all of this madness, go insane with or without the upsetting information? Is there some sort of an Insanity Bell Curve? I feel somewhat at home with the madness -- even though my functional level is at an all-time low. I feel like a really slow spyware and backdoor infiltrated 286 computer. It really is that bad. But I also feel as if in a previous incarnation that I might've been in the middle of a helluva lot really heavy stuff -- including the dark Church and Reich horrors. The internal conflict is almost too much. In a way, I'm just fine -- but in another way, I'm almost finished. You'd be amazed at what I think about. If I survive, on a soul-level, I do NOT expect happiness - EVER. The problems will probably just keep attacking my consciousness -- for all eternity. This really isn't something to look forward to, is it? I hate to say it, but I often feel somewhat like the writer of this very sad internet post. http://www.thoughts.com/Tony51203/the-cruel-joke
Once again, I've made some comments regarding Rome and San Francisco, in connection with potential pipe-organ projects. I think this would be extremely cool, but again, I don't know the circumstances. I mostly am interested in having very strong music programs in the large churches and cathedrals of the world. This dovetails with my 1928 'Book of Common Prayer' talk. This is all about a Royal Model Church Service in the large churches and cathedrals of the world -- especially those with classical architecture. I am not opposed to Alternative Churches and Contemporary Services. I am merely thinking in terms of a Representative Classical Core of Reformed Minimalist Tradition -- with an eye toward Evolutionary Innovation -- which enhances true spirituality and rational devotion.
THEeXchanger wrote:some wise people have often said,
that only those who can live NOW in the present can find peace
-to live in the future, can make one very anxious
and, to live in the past, can make one very depressed, sad, and, full of hate
i think, there is some wisdom - in that statement,
some wise person made back on project avalon/and, project camelot
i think, it was
BE HERE NOW !!! (WAS, that thread rhythm's ???)
I agree with both of the above quoted posts. The past-present-future thing is a problem which I have attempted to solve by focusing upon the present -- and viewing the past and future with peripheral vision. Perhaps 25% Past -- 50% Present -- 25% Future is an appropriate proportionality. Similarly, I feel as if we're living in Purgatory -- and on the brink of Heaven and/or Hell. I define Hell-Purgatory-Heaven a bit differently than the Roman Catholic Church -- but I think about these three words a helluvalot on the 'Road to Utopia'.ceridwen wrote:The mistakes of the present have their root in the oblivion of the past. To be well rooted we need to be aware of our origins and how we came about where we are now. That way we can make amends and create the future we desire, avoiding making the same mistakes of the past
Perhaps the biggest problem we are facing is the distortion of history which renders us unable to plan a productive and harmonious future
Living in the now is good but it was never intended as being disconected from the wheel of life perhaps?
I'm going to tentatively predict some sort of a war involving people (who aren't really people) -- people who have undergone massive training and programming -- and people who are perfectly possessed -- who talk really fast and are really smart -- yet who are NOT on the side of Responsible Humanity and True Righteousness. I think that Trans-Humanism is very real -- and that it will play a huge part in the Impending Conflict aka Final Jihad. I mean well -- but I have undergone no special training or programming -- I am completely human (as far as I know) -- and I seem to be ruthlessly attacked by demonic spirits (rather than being perfectly possessed by them) -- so in many ways, I'm probably no match for what's coming, even though I think this thread is an excellent boot-camp for dealing with the madness. At this point, rewatch the original "V" series, and both seasons of the recent remake of "V". Consider "V" as being "just the beginning" and as being a "conceptual crutch". The horror.
I like listening to John Lear -- regardless of the validity of his claims. I like his presentation. My Quest of the Historical Jesus has morphed into the Quest for the Historical Horus. The Bible contains a helluva lot of truth -- but I think it also contains a helluva lot of BS. We just don't know the circumstances under which it was really written. I consider the Bible to be a Collection of Clues and Possibilities. I support a multidisciplinary and eclectic search for truth -- which includes listening to John Lear.
I'm thinking about moving in a new direction. I'm thinking of focusing on radio broadcasting, neuropsychology, meteorology, astrophysics, theoretical physics, cosmology, philosophy, reading, chess, aikido, tennis, bowling, woodworking, and cooking.
If this solar system is full of various types of humans and reptilians -- with a wide variety of cultures -- how would a United States of the Solar System work? Would Dracs move next door to me? Would Greys live across the street? What if the Dracs dominated the Senate? What if the Greys dominated the House? I like my ideas, on paper -- but what would the reality be? Should everyone basically stay where they are right now? Should the solar system be completely human? I have no idea what we're really dealing with, but my preference is that human beings should probably continue living on Earth, as they do presently, without 'alien' race 'integration' -- but in a much more responsible manner. The situation of any 'other than human' races should probably be considered on a case by case basis. I like the idea of interacting with various beings, yet I presently lean toward this solar system being mostly human. Again, I have no idea regarding the true state of affairs in this solar system, galaxy, and universe. Reading a couple of paragraphs of a Cosmic Clearance Document might invalidate this entire thread, and all of my bright ideas. I really believe that.
How do my 9.5 Theses and Orthodoxymoron Guidestone relate to my more recent Solar System Governance Model? I like the general concepts - but I feel really uneasy and troubled regarding the past, present, and future. I have no idea which way to jump. A big problem is that I have no idea what all of the hidden agendas are (including my own). Do all of the below harmonize with each other -- or does the governance model (in blue) contradict the Theses and the Guidestone (in black). All of this is really scaring me. I could sure use some input.
**************************************************GOD**************************************************
*************THE KING AND QUEEN OF THE UNITED STATES OF THE SOLAR SYSTEM*************
THE UNITED STATES OF THE SOLAR SYSTEM****THE SOLAR SYSTEM COUNCIL OF CHURCHES
*******U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights*******************1928 Book of Common Prayer*******
*************The Federalist Papers********************************The Desire of Ages*************
************J.S. Bach and G.F. Handel**************************J.S. Bach and G.F. Handel**********
**************Cathedral Context************************************Cathedral Context**************
*************THE KING AND QUEEN OF THE UNITED STATES OF THE SOLAR SYSTEM*************
THE UNITED STATES OF THE SOLAR SYSTEM****THE SOLAR SYSTEM COUNCIL OF CHURCHES
*******U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights*******************1928 Book of Common Prayer*******
*************The Federalist Papers********************************The Desire of Ages*************
************J.S. Bach and G.F. Handel**************************J.S. Bach and G.F. Handel**********
**************Cathedral Context************************************Cathedral Context**************
9.5 Theses:
1. Replace Canon Law with the Teachings of Jesus.
2. Institute a Modified Latin Mass (with no communion - emphasizing the remembrance of Christ and His Teachings - rather than His Sacrifice) - offering Masses seven days a week - with no preference regarding the day or days of attendance.
3. Base All Homilies, Theology, and Ritual Upon the Teachings of Jesus.
4. Eliminate Penance and Confession (replacing both with psychological and spiritual counseling).
5. Allow Women to be Priests and Popes.
6. Allow Priests to Marry and Popes to Marry (and eliminate all blasphemous titles).
7. Eliminate All Crucifixes (The bloody, dying, and mostly naked Jesus should not be paraded and displayed).
8. Be Completely Honest Regarding the History of the Church, the World, the Solar System, the Galaxy, and the Universe.
9. Institute a Program of Responsible Reproduction (lifting the ban on birth-control).
9.5. Base Civil and Church Governance on the U.S. Constitution.
ORTHODOXYMORON GUIDESTONE:
1. BASE THIS SOLAR SYSTEM UPON RESPONSIBILITY AND THE U.S. CONSTITUTION.
2. MAINTAIN AN EARTH HUMAN POPULATION OF FOUR BILLION (TWO BILLION SURFACE - TWO BILLION SUBSURFACE) AND FOUR BILLION THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE SOLAR SYSTEM (MOSTLY SUBSURFACE).
3. BASE PHYSICAL, MENTAL, AND SPIRITUAL HEALTH UPON PREVENTION.
4. MAINTAIN A PRISTINE ENVIRONMENT.
5. USE ELECTRICAL POWER FOR NEARLY EVERYTHING, AND UTILIZE MAGNETO-LEVITON TRAINS FOR MOST GLOBAL TRANSPORTATION.
Once again, I am NOT shouting this sort of thing from the Seven Hills of Rome. This is mostly intended to quietly make myself and others think and grow -- mentally and spiritually. I am truly mystified by the fact that few wish to talk to me about the most important subjects imaginable. I am also mystified regarding what REALLY happened around the time the original Project Avalon shut-down. Finally, I am mystified by what happened in the summer of 2011. Some of you know EXACTLY what I'm talking about. What the Hell is Going On??? Why the Stonewall of Silence???
One More Thing. Click This Link, and Let Song After Song Play. They Are Some of My Favorite Songs.
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**************************************THE FOUNDING DOCUMENTS OF THE UNITED STATES OF THE SOLAR SYSTEM***************************************
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WE THE PEOPLE OF EARTH are determined to save succeeding generations from the scourge of war, and to reaffirm faith in fundamental human rights, in the dignity and worth of the human person, in the equal rights of men and women and of nations large and small, and to establish conditions under which justice and respect for the obligations arising from the Constitution of the United States of the Solar System can be maintained, and to promote social progress and better standards of life in larger freedom. To practice tolerance and live together in peace with one another as good neighbours, and to unite our strength to maintain interplanetary peace and security, and to ensure, by the acceptance of principles and the institution of methods, that armed force shall not be used, save in the common interest, and to employ interplanetary machinery for the promotion of the economic and social advancement of all peoples.
Recognition of the inherent dignity and of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world. Disregard and contempt for human rights have resulted in barbarous acts which have outraged the conscience of mankind, and the advent of a world in which human beings shall enjoy freedom of speech and belief and freedom from fear and want has been proclaimed as the highest aspiration of the common people. It is essential, if man is not to be compelled to have recourse, as a last resort, to rebellion against tyranny and oppression, that human rights should be protected by the rule of law. It is essential to promote the development of friendly relations between Member States. We the people of Earth have reaffirmed our faith in fundamental human rights, in the dignity and worth of the human person and in the equal rights of men and women and have determined to promote social progress and better standards of life in larger freedom. Member States have pledged themselves to achieve, in co-operation with the United States of the Solar System the promotion of universal respect for and observance of human rights and fundamental freedoms. A common understanding of these rights and freedoms is of the greatest importance.
Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom...in the context of The United States of the Solar System...is a common standard of achievement for all peoples and all Member States, to the end that every individual and every organ of society, keeping these principles, concepts, and documents constantly in mind, shall strive by teaching and education to promote respect for these rights and freedoms and by progressive measures, interstate and interplanetary, to secure their universal and effective recognition and observance among the peoples of Member States.
All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood. Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms inherent in the United States of the Solar System, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, territorial or social origin, property, birth or other status. Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political or jurisdictional status of the Member State to which a person belongs.
Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person. No one shall be held in slavery or servitude; slavery and the slave trade shall be prohibited in all their forms. No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment. Everyone has the right to recognition everywhere as a person before the law. All are equal before the law and are entitled without any discrimination to equal protection of the law. All are entitled to equal protection against any discrimination in violation of this Declaration and against any incitement to such discrimination. Everyone has the right to an effective remedy by the competent Member State tribunals for acts violating the fundamental rights granted him by the constitution or by law.
No one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile. Everyone is entitled in full equality to a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial tribunal, in the determination of his rights and obligations and of any criminal charge against him. Everyone charged with a penal offence has the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law in a public trial at which he has had all the guarantees necessary for his defence. No one shall be held guilty of any penal offence on account of any act or omission which did not constitute a penal offence, under state or interplanetary law, at the time when it was committed. Nor shall a heavier penalty be imposed than the one that was applicable at the time the penal offence was committed.
No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks. Everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each Member State. Everyone has the right to leave any Member State, and to return. Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other Member States asylum from persecution. This right may not be invoked in the case of prosecutions genuinely arising from non-political crimes or from acts contrary to the purposes and principles of the United States of the Solar System. Everyone has the right to own property alone as well as in association with others. No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property.
Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race, state or religion, have the right to marry and to found a family. They are entitled to equal rights as to marriage, during marriage and at its dissolution. Marriage shall be entered into only with the free and full consent of the intending spouses. The family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society and is entitled to protection by society and the State.
Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance. Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers. Everyone has the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and association. No one may be compelled to belong to an association.
Everyone has the right to take part in the government of his state, directly or through freely chosen representatives. Everyone has the right of equal access to public service in his Member State. The will of the people shall be the basis of the authority of government; this will shall be expressed in periodic and genuine elections which shall be by universal and equal suffrage and shall be held by secret vote or by equivalent free voting procedures.
Everyone, as a member of society, has the right to social security and is entitled to realization, through state effort and interplanetary co-operation and in accordance with the organization and resources of each Member State, of the economic, social and cultural rights indispensable for his dignity and the free development of his personality.
Everyone has the right to work, to free choice of employment, to just and favourable conditions of work and to protection against unemployment. Everyone, without any discrimination, has the right to equal pay for equal work. Everyone who works has the right to just and favourable remuneration ensuring for himself and his family an existence worthy of human dignity, and supplemented, if necessary, by other means of social protection. Everyone has the right to form and to join trade unions for the protection of his interests. Everyone has the right to rest and leisure, including reasonable limitation of working hours and periodic holidays with pay. Everyone has the right to work to achieve a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control. Motherhood and childhood are entitled to special care and assistance. All children, whether born in or out of wedlock, shall enjoy the same social protection.
Everyone has the right to education. Education shall be free, at least in the elementary and fundamental stages. Elementary education shall be compulsory. Technical and professional education shall be made generally available and higher education shall be equally accessible to all on the basis of merit. Education shall be directed to the full development of the human personality and to the strengthening of respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms. It shall promote understanding, tolerance and friendship among all Member States, racial or religious groups, and shall further the activities of the United States of the Solar System for the maintenance of peace. Parents have a prior right to choose the kind of education that shall be given to their children.
Everyone has the right freely to participate in the cultural life of the community, to enjoy the arts and to share in scientific advancement and its benefits. Everyone has the right to the protection of the moral and material interests resulting from any scientific, literary or artistic production of which he is the author. Everyone has duties to the community in which alone the free and full development of his personality is possible. In the exercise of his rights and freedoms, everyone shall be subject only to such limitations as are determined by law solely for the purpose of securing due recognition and respect for the rights and freedoms of others and of meeting the just requirements of morality, public order and the general welfare in a democratic society. These rights and freedoms may in no case be exercised contrary to the purposes and principles of the United States of the Solar System.
****************DECLARATION OF HUMAN SOVEREIGNTY REGARDING CONTACT WITH EXTRATERRESTRIAL NATIONS AND FORCES****************
We, the People of Earth, extend greetings to all races in the Greater Community of the Universe. We acknowledge our common heritage before the Creator of all the Universe, both visible and invisible. We declare the planet Earth as our sacred inheritance. We pledge henceforth to sustain and preserve the Earth for all generations to come. We call upon all humanity to treat all races everywhere with wisdom and justice, here on Earth and throughout the Universe.
Fundamental Rights
We, the People of Earth, regard the need for freedom to be universal. Therefore, we hold that all individuals in all worlds are created equal and are endowed by the Creator with sacred and inalienable rights. Fundamental among these are the right to live as a free race; the right of self-determination, self-sufficiency, and creative expression; the right to life without oppression; and the right to pursue in life a higher purpose and a higher calling that the Creator has provided to all.
Before the Greater Community of the Universe, we, the People of Earth, do now invoke these fundamental rights for ourselves, along with certain rights that naturally derive from them, including:
-The right of sovereignty. The People of Earth shall be self-governed and independent, neither subject to nor dependent upon any other authority. No extraterrestrial force shall contravene or abrogate the human sovereignty of this planet.
-The right of planetary sanctity. Earth shall be free from extraterrestrial intervention, intrusion, interference, or exploitation, both mental and physical. No extraterrestrial force shall make close approach, or assume close orbit, or make any landing, or engage in trade, except openly and with the expressed consent of the People of Earth achieved through a democratic means.
-The right of sanctity of biological and genetic material. No extraterrestrial power shall take, possess, or manipulate human biological or genetic material for any purpose whatsoever.
-The right of occupation. We the People of Earth claim this Solar System as our sphere of influence. No extraterrestrial bases may be established on bodies or stations orbiting the Earth, nor on other planets or bodies of this Solar System, except with the expressed consent of the People of Earth.
-The right of peaceful navigation. We claim the right to travel and explore within our Solar System without interference or restraint from extraterrestrial forces, and maintain the right to deny access to this Solar System by any extraterrestrial forces.
We, the People of Earth, consider it our rightful responsibility to assert and defend these fundamental rights, and to give and receive aid consistent with these rights.
The Assessment
When in the course of their evolution it becomes necessary for the native people of a planet to unite, to transcend the conflicts and differences that have separated them from one another, and to assume among the powers of the Universe a separate and equal sovereignty, a respectful consideration of that sovereignty requires that they declare the causes which impel them to this present course of action.
Although the Earth has undergone a long history of extraterrestrial visitation, the current situation is that the People of Earth are now suffering the effects of a global extraterrestrial intervention into human affairs. This intervention employs a strategy of deception, manipulation, and exploitation, the goal of which is control over humanity, which will result in the loss of human freedom and self-determination. It is now the sacred right and duty of the People of Earth to oppose, resist, and repel this extraterrestrial intervention, to declare and defend our sovereignty, our freedom, and our independence from all extraterrestrial forces.
Let these violations be considered by those supporting the cause of freedom throughout the Greater Community:
-Intervening extraterrestrial forces have refused to openly disclose and reveal the nature and intent of their activities on and around Earth. This extraterrestrial presence is clandestine, covert, uninvited, and unapproved by the People of Earth. These extraterrestrial forces have concealed their own identity, their political or economic alliances and allegiances, as well as the authorities and powers which they serve.
-As is becoming increasingly apparent from their actions, extraterrestrial forces intend to exploit the Earth, its resources, and its people, and are engaged in a systematic program of colonizing humanity into a subservient client state to be ruled by agents of these extraterrestrial forces. The extraterrestrial intervention and occupation seeks commercial gain, economic power, and the strategic advantage offered by this world in relation to other worlds.
-Extraterrestrial forces have repeatedly and with impunity violated national and international laws of the Earth’s people. These offenses, which still continue today, have included violation of restricted airspace; abduction and transportation of humans without their consent; murder, rape, torture, sexual abuse, interbreeding with humans, and cruel experimentation; theft and trade of human biological and genetic materials; theft and trade of Earth’s natural resources; covert mental and psychological influence; mutilation of humans and animals; tampering with and disabling of military defense systems; and clandestine infiltration into human society.
-Extraterrestrial forces have secretly negotiated treaties and agreements with human individuals and groups, without the informed consent of the People of Earth.
-Extraterrestrial forces have systematically attempted to persuade and mislead humans through extending false hopes and promises of wealth, power, and protection; rescue from planetary catastrophe; membership in a “galactic federation”; and spiritual salvation and enlightenment.
-Extraterrestrial forces have exploited and exacerbated human conflicts to serve their own ends.
-Extraterrestrial forces have been disempowering humanity by leading us to believe that we can only survive with their help and their advanced technology, thus fostering our complete dependence upon them and denying our ability to ensure our own survival.
Demands and Declarations
Accordingly, we, the People of Earth, do hereby declare all previously existing agreements or treaties between any human government, group, or individual and any extraterrestrials to be forthwith null, void, and permanently suspended. We demand that any such previously existing treaties or agreements be fully and publicly disclosed. Any future agreements or treaties between human governments, groups, or individuals and extraterrestrials must be negotiated only with the full consent of the People of Earth, publicly and openly expressed by an international democratic body representing the nations and peoples of Earth.
We demand that all extraterrestrials now cease all operations and activities and immediately vacate and depart from the Earth and its surroundings including the Sun, Earth’s Moon, and all planets of this Solar System. This includes vacating any natural or artificial satellites, as well as all space within the Solar System.
We demand that all extraterrestrial organizations who have established or operated bases on the Earth, its Moon, or anywhere else within this Solar System, to vacate these bases, and fully disclose their nature. These bases should then be used to defend the Solar System.
We further demand that all living humans who are now in custody of extraterrestrials be returned immediately in good health; further, we demand a full accounting of all humans who have been taken or held by extraterrestrials, including those who have died in captivity. In addition, we demand that all human biological or genetic materials taken from any individuals be accounted for and destroyed, and their intended use be identified. Any devices implanted in living individuals must be identified so that they may be safely removed.
We demand full public disclosure of the purpose and details of the extraterrestrial hybridization program, including the location, identity, and activities of all living human-extraterrestrial hybrids, whether on Earth or elsewhere.
Be it known throughout the Universe that from this time forward, extraterrestrials may only enter our Solar System, approach our Earth, fly in our skies, set foot on our soil, or enter our waters with the explicit consent of the People of Earth.
We, therefore, do solemnly declare that the People of Earth are and should be a free and independent people; that all humans are hereby absolved from all allegiance to extraterrestrial powers, and that all political and economic connections between them and the People of Earth are totally dissolved; that as a free and sovereign race in the Greater Community of the Universe, we assume full power within this Solar System to conclude peace, levy war, contract alliances, establish commerce, and to undertake all other actions which a sovereign planetary race may rightfully and ethically do.
Concluding Statement
Let it be understood that in making this Declaration of Human Sovereignty, we, the People of Earth, affirm our future and destiny as a free race within a Greater Community of intelligent life. We recognize that we are a part of this Greater Community and that we are destined over time to encounter many different races from beyond our world.
To them and to all others, we hereby declare that our intention is not conquest or domination in space. We declare that the rights and privileges that we affirm here for ourselves, we also affirm for all races of beings whom we might encounter.
In making our Declaration of Human Sovereignty, we proclaim our rights, responsibilities, and privileges as a free race in order that we may pursue greater unity, peace, and cooperation within the human family without unwanted or unwarranted intrusion and interference by any outside nation or force from the Greater Community. We make this proclamation as an expression of our Divine right and honorable intent for the human family and for all races in the Universe who seek to be free.
www.humansovereignty.org
*******************************************THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF THE SOLAR SYSTEM*****************************************
We the People of the United States of the Solar System, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of the Solar System.
Article 1.
Section 1
All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States of the Solar System, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives. All Elected Representatives of We the People of the United States of the Solar System shall vote according to the Will of the People as Recorded Daily by Internet Voting.
Section 2
The House of Representatives shall be composed of Members chosen every second Year by the People of the several States, and the Electors in each State shall have the Qualifications requisite for Electors of the most numerous Branch of the State Legislature.
No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the Age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United States of the Solar System, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State in which they shall be chosen.
Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers.
When vacancies happen in the Representation from any State, the Executive Authority thereof shall issue Writs of Election to fill such Vacancies.
The House of Representatives shall choose their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.
Section 3
The Senate of the United States of the Solar System shall be composed of two Senators from each State, chosen by the Legislature thereof, for six Years; and each Senator shall have one Vote.
Immediately after they shall be assembled in Consequence of the first Election, they shall be divided as equally as may be into three Classes. The Seats of the Senators of the first Class shall be vacated at the Expiration of the second Year, of the second Class at the Expiration of the fourth Year, and of the third Class at the Expiration of the sixth Year, so that one third may be chosen every second Year; and if Vacancies happen by Resignation, or otherwise, during the Recess of the Legislature of any State, the Executive thereof may make temporary Appointments until the next Meeting of the Legislature, which shall then fill such Vacancies.
No Person shall be a Senator who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty Years, and been nine Years a Citizen of the United States of the Solar System, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State for which they shall be chosen.
The Vice President of the United States of the Solar System shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no Vote, unless they be equally divided.
The Senate shall choose their other Officers, and also a President pro tempore, in the absence of the Vice President, or when he shall exercise the Office of President of the United States of the Solar System.
The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States of the Solar System is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.
Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States of the Solar System: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.
Section 4
The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Place of Choosing Senators.
The Congress shall assemble at least once in every Year, and such Meeting shall be on the first Monday in December, unless they shall by Law appoint a different Day.
Section 5
Each House shall be the Judge of the Elections, Returns and Qualifications of its own Members, and a Majority of each shall constitute a Quorum to do Business; but a smaller number may adjourn from day to day, and may be authorized to compel the Attendance of absent Members, in such Manner, and under such Penalties as each House may provide.
Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings, punish its Members for disorderly Behavior, and, with the Concurrence of two-thirds, expel a Member.
Each House shall keep a Journal of its Proceedings, and from time to time publish the same, excepting such Parts as may in their Judgment require Secrecy; and the Yeas and Nays of the Members of either House on any question shall, at the Desire of one fifth of those Present, be entered on the Journal.
Neither House, during the Session of Congress, shall, without the Consent of the other, adjourn for more than three days, nor to any other Place than that in which the two Houses shall be sitting.
Section 6
The Senators and Representatives shall receive a Compensation for their Services, to be ascertained by Law, and paid out of the Treasury of the United States of the Solar System. They shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place.
No Senator or Representative shall, during the Time for which he was elected, be appointed to any civil Office under the Authority of the United States of the Solar System which shall have been created, or the Emoluments whereof shall have been increased during such time; and no Person holding any Office under the United States of the Solar System, shall be a Member of either House during their Continuance in Office.
Section 7
All bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.
Every Bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it become a Law, be presented to the President of the United States of the Solar System; If they approve they shall sign it, but if not they shall return it, with their Objections to that House in which it shall have originated, who shall enter the Objections at large on their Journal, and proceed to reconsider it. If after such Reconsideration two thirds of that House shall agree to pass the Bill, it shall be sent, together with the Objections, to the other House, by which it shall likewise be reconsidered, and if approved by two thirds of that House, it shall become a Law. But in all such Cases the Votes of both Houses shall be determined by Yeas and Nays, and the Names of the Persons voting for and against the Bill shall be entered on the Journal of each House respectively. If any Bill shall not be returned by the President within ten Days (Sundays excepted) after it shall have been presented to them, the Same shall be a Law, in like Manner as if he had signed it, unless the Congress by their Adjournment prevent its Return, in which Case it shall not be a Law.
Every Order, Resolution, or Vote to which the Concurrence of the Senate and House of Representatives may be necessary (except on a question of Adjournment) shall be presented to the President of the United States of the Solar System; and before the Same shall take Effect, shall be approved by them, or being disapproved by them, shall be repassed by two thirds of the Senate and House of Representatives, according to the Rules and Limitations prescribed in the Case of a Bill.
Section 8
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States of the Solar System; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States of the Solar System;
To borrow money on the credit of the United States of the Solar System;
To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States.
To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States of the Solar System;
To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;
To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States of the Solar System;
To establish Post Offices and Post Roads;
To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;
To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;
To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high seas and outer space, and Offenses against the Law of Nations;
To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land, Water, and in Space;
To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;
To provide and maintain a Navy and a Space Force;
To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land, naval, and Space Forces;
To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;
To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States of the Solar System, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;
To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States of the Solar System, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings; And
To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this
Constitution in the Government of the United States of the Solar System, or in any Department or Officer thereof.
Section 9
The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the Year one thousand eight hundred and eight, but a tax or duty may be imposed on such Importation, not exceeding ten dollars for each Person.
The privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.
No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed.
No capitation, or other direct, Tax shall be laid, unless in Proportion to the Census or Enumeration herein before directed to be taken.
No Tax or Duty shall be laid on Articles exported from any State.
No Preference shall be given by any Regulation of Commerce or Revenue to the Ports of one State over those of another: nor shall Vessels bound to, or from, one State, be obliged to enter, clear, or pay Duties in another.
No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law; and a regular Statement and Account of the Receipts and Expenditures of all public Money shall be published from time to time.
No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States of the Solar System: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince or foreign State.
Section 10
No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.
No State shall, without the Consent of the Congress, lay any Imposts or Duties on Imports or Exports, except what may be absolutely necessary for executing its inspection Laws: and the net Produce of all Duties and Imposts, laid by any State on Imports or Exports, shall be for the Use of the Treasury of the United States of the Solar System; and all such Laws shall be subject to the Revision and Control of the Congress.
No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.
Article 2.
Section 1
The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of the Solar System. They shall hold their Office during the Term of four Years, and, together with the Vice-President chosen for the same Term, be elected, as follows:
Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States of the Solar System, shall be appointed an Elector.
The Electors shall meet in their respective States, and vote by Ballot for two persons, of whom one at least shall not lie an Inhabitant of the same State with themselves. And they shall make a List of all the Persons voted for, and of the Number of Votes for each; which List they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the Seat of the Government of the United States of the Solar System, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed; and if there be more than one who have such Majority, and have an equal Number of Votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately choose by Ballot one of them for President; and if no Person have a Majority, then from the five highest on the List the said House shall in like Manner choose the President. But in choosing the President, the Votes shall be taken by States, the Representation from each State having one Vote; a quorum for this Purpose shall consist of a Member or Members from two-thirds of the States, and a Majority of all the States shall be necessary to a Choice. In every Case, after the Choice of the President, the Person having the greatest Number of Votes of the Electors shall be the Vice President. But if there should remain two or more who have equal Votes, the Senate shall choose from them by Ballot the Vice-President.
The Congress may determine the Time of choosing the Electors, and the Day on which they shall give their Votes; which Day shall be the same throughout the United States of the Solar System.
No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States of the Solar System, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States of the Solar System.
In Case of the Removal of the President from Office, or of his Death, Resignation, or Inability to discharge the Powers and Duties of the said
Office, the same shall devolve on the Vice President, and the Congress may by Law provide for the Case of Removal, Death, Resignation or Inability, both of the President and Vice President, declaring what Officer shall then act as President, and such Officer shall act accordingly, until the Disability be removed, or a President shall be elected.
The President shall, at stated Times, receive for his Services, a Compensation, which shall neither be increased nor diminished during the Period for which he shall have been elected, and he shall not receive within that Period any other Emolument from the United States of the Solar System, or any of them.
Before they enter on the Execution of their Office, they shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:
"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States of the Solar System, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of the Solar System."
Section 2
The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army, Navy, and Space Force of the United States of the Solar System, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States of the Solar System; they may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States of the Solar System, except in Cases of Impeachment.
They shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States of the Solar System, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments.
The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the End of their next Session.
Section 3
They shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as they shall judge necessary and expedient; they may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, they may adjourn them to such Time as they shall think proper; they shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; they shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States of the Solar System.
Section 4
The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States of the Solar System, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.
Article 3.
Section 1
The judicial Power of the United States of the Solar System, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behavior, and shall, at stated Times, receive for their Services a Compensation which shall not be diminished during their Continuance in Office.
Section 2
The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States of the Solar System, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority; to all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls; to all Cases of admiralty, maritime, and space Jurisdiction; to Controversies to which the United States of the Solar System shall be a Party; to Controversies between two or more States; between a State and Citizens of another State; between Citizens of different States; between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens or Subjects.
In all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and those in which a State shall be Party, the supreme Court shall have original Jurisdiction. In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make.
The Trial of all Crimes, except in Cases of Impeachment, shall be by Jury; and such Trial shall be held in the State where the said Crimes shall have been committed; but when not committed within any State, the Trial shall be at such Place or Places as the Congress may by Law have directed.
Section 3
Treason against the United States of the Solar System, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.
The Congress shall have power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.
Article 4.
Section 1
Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.
Section 2
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
A Person charged in any State with Treason, Felony, or other Crime, who shall flee from Justice, and be found in another State, shall on demand of the executive Authority of the State from which they fled, be delivered up, to be removed to the State having Jurisdiction of the Crime.
No Person held to Service or Labour in one State, under the Laws thereof, escaping into another, shall, in Consequence of any Law or Regulation therein, be discharged from such Service or Labour, But shall be delivered up on Claim of the Party to whom such Service or Labour may be due.
Section 3
New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new States shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.
The Congress shall have Power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States of the Solar System; and nothing in this Constitution shall be so construed as to Prejudice any Claims of the United States of the Solar System, or of any particular State.
Section 4
The United States of the Solar System shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.
Article 5.
The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.
Article 6.
The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States of the Solar System and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States of the Solar System.
Article 7.
Amendment 1
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people to peaceably assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Amendment 2
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Amendment 3
No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.
Amendment 4
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the people or things to be seized.
Amendment 5
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against themself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
Amendment 6
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.
Amendment 7
In Suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any Court of the United States of the Solar System, than according to the rules of the common law.
Amendment 8
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
Amendment 9
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
Amendment 10
The powers not delegated to the United States of the Solar System by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
Amendment 11
The Judicial power of the United States of the Solar System shall not be construed to extend to any suit in law or equity, commenced or prosecuted against one of the United States by Citizens of another State, or by Citizens or Subjects of any Foreign State.
Amendment 12
The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the persons voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States of the Solar System, directed to the President of the Senate;
The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;
The person having the greatest Number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in the case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President.
The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no persons have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States of the Solar System.
Amendment 13
1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States of the Solar System, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
Amendment 14
1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States of the Solar System, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States of the Solar System and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States of the Solar System; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
2. Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of people in each State. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice-President of the United States of the Solar System, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any citizen of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States of the Solar System, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such citizens shall bear to the whole number of citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.
3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States of the Solar System, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States of the Solar System, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
4. The validity of the public debt of the United States of the Solar System, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States of the Solar System nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States of the Solar System, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.
5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.
Amendment 15
1. The right of citizens of the United States of the Solar System to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States of the Solar System or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.
2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
Amendment 16
Removed because of passage and ratification issues...and because of unfathomable corruption since 1913.
Amendment 17
The Senate of the United States of the Solar System shall be composed of two Senators from each State, elected by the people thereof, for six years; and each Senator shall have one vote. The electors in each State shall have the qualifications requisite for electors of the most numerous branch of the State legislatures.
When vacancies happen in the representation of any State in the Senate, the executive authority of such State shall issue writs of election to fill such vacancies: Provided, That the legislature of any State may empower the executive thereof to make temporary appointments until the persons fill the vacancies by election as the legislature may direct.
This amendment shall not be so construed as to affect the election or term of any Senator chosen before it becomes valid as part of the Constitution.
Amendment 18 (Repealed by Amendment 21)
Amendment 19
The right of citizens of the United States of the Solar System to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States of the Solar System or by any State on account of sex.
Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
Amendment 20
1. The terms of the President and Vice President shall end at noon on the 20th day of January, and the terms of Senators and Representatives at noon on the 3d day of January, of the years in which such terms would have ended if this article had not been ratified; and the terms of their successors shall then begin.
2. The Congress shall assemble at least once in every year, and such meeting shall begin at noon on the 3d day of January, unless they shall by law appoint a different day.
3. If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.
4. The Congress may by law provide for the case of the death of any of the persons from whom the House of Representatives may choose a President whenever the right of choice shall have devolved upon them, and for the case of the death of any of the persons from whom the Senate may choose a Vice President whenever the right of choice shall have devolved upon them.
5. Sections 1 and 2 shall take effect on the 15th day of October following the ratification of this article.
6. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years from the date of its submission.
Amendment 21 (Repeal of Amendment 18)
Amendment 22
1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President, when this Article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this Article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.
2. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years from the date of its submission to the States by the Congress.
Amendment 23
1. The District constituting the seat of Government of the United States of the Solar System shall appoint in such manner as the Congress may direct: A number of electors of President and Vice President equal to the whole number of Senators and Representatives in Congress to which the District would be entitled if it were a State, but in no event more than the least populous State; they shall be in addition to those appointed by the States, but they shall be considered, for the purposes of the election of President and Vice President, to be electors appointed by a State; and they shall meet in the District and perform such duties as provided by the twelfth article of amendment.
2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
Amendment 24
1. The right of citizens of the United States of the Solar System to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States of the Solar System or any State by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax.
2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
Amendment 25
1. In case of the removal of the President from office or of their death or resignation, the Vice President shall become President.
2. Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon
confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.
3. Whenever the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that they are unable to discharge the powers and duties of their office, and until they transmits to them a written declaration to the contrary, such powers and duties shall be discharged by the Vice President as Acting President.
4. Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.
Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, they shall resume the powers and duties of their office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of their office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of their office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of their office.
Amendment 26
1. The right of citizens of the United States of the Solar System, who are eighteen years of age or older, to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States of the Solar System or by any State on account of age.
2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
Amendment 27
No law, varying the compensation for the services of the Senators and Representatives, shall take effect, until an election of Representatives shall have intervened.
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ATTENTION! I really need feedback regarding the last couple of pages, in general -- and the last couple of posts, in particular. I feel as if I am going into battle -- all by myself. I'm sorry for the crusading tone which has evolved within this thread -- and I am trying to tone it down. In fact, I keep trying to stop posting -- over and over and over again. I feel VERY uncomfortable posting on solar system governance -- because I know this is playing with burning magnesium. I've never felt worse than I feel right now. 'The United States of the Solar System' thread is my preliminary Idealistic Political and Theological Science Fiction Project -- and it's frankly scaring the hell out of me. I want to stop -- but I seem to have a tiger by the tail (or is it a fracking drac?). I think I need a change of scenery. I'd settle for an old Decommissioned Missile Silo, an old Porsche Turbo, an old Sport Model UFO (preferably a FIZU), and an old Cray Supercomputer (with which to monitor, model, and correlate everything of significance relative to solar system governance -- in real-time). A Top-Model Rogers linked to a Bottom-Model Cray might be really cool! I'm easy! Back to reality. Consider relating responsibility and freedom -- to each and every word in the dictionary. If and when you finish with that, I need help regarding the opening portion of the U.S.S.S. Constitution.
We the People of the United States of the Solar System, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of the Solar System.
Article 1.
Section 1
All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States of the Solar System, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives. All Elected Representatives of We the People of the United States of the Solar System shall vote according to the Will of the People as Recorded Daily by Internet Voting.
I'm thinking that members of the general public who have at least a two-year college degree in Solar System Governance should vote with the Senate and House -- with their cumulative votes comprising up to half of the Senate and House votes. I obviously don't have this worked-out -- which is why I need YOUR help. The goal is to NOT have a bunch of arrogant and out of touch leaders, who don't give a damn about the people. I do NOT support Mob Rule -- but there should be some way for qualified members of the general public to make their voices heard -- at the highest levels -- in an orderly, organized, and responsible fashion -- which might include Congressional Voting. There might need to be other modifications, qualifications, and safeguards -- but do you see my point? PLEASE HELP!
One More Thing. If you don't like my theology, then see if this works for you!!! What Would Paul Davies Say??? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tB1jppI3fo
In the beginning...and on {Merci Clearwater and 11-1220-11} the 'idea' of what Love might be?
First Imagine It - then Image It!
Post Number #1127 by Abraxasinas on old Project Avalon Forum as reply to Post Number #1119 by Malletzky ; February 18th, 2010 and February 17th, 2010 respectively
Originally Posted by Malletzky
Hi Abrax, I've allways been fascinated by the very first words of the bible:
1:1 - In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
1:2 - And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
1:3 - And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
1:4 - And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
especially the "let there be light" passage.
I've always knew, deep in my heart, that the meaning of this very passage is very special, but I somehow felt to "decipher' it. I'm pretty sure that, if we would be able to find out the real meaning of the "dividing the light from the dark", we would be able to find out how the creation "works".
Thanks to your posts on this thread in the last months, I may say that there came some 'light" in my "darkness", but I'm definitely still missing the core and the deepest meaning of these passages.
Would you be able to throw some 'light' here? May I assume that the above mentioned passages are really important? And how? Is it about creating duality and separatedness in order to understand the whole?
Sorry if you've eventually described this here before, but I seem to have missed this one so far.
thanks again, with much respect
malletzky
Hi Malletzky!
This question is the bugbear, not only for all of science, but also for all religion.
Science 'stumbles' in material regression at the 'singularity', where the infinite meets and becomes the void and religion postulates supernatural precursors as somehow deriving from this 'natural emptiness or void'.
In the beginning there was no space or time, so how then can there be a beginning?
This beginning is like an uncut circle or loop, whose alpha-omega point remains undefined until the circle is cut (linearisation from circularisation technically).
But the concept of the possibility of the 'cutting' infers a logistic ordering of before (the cutting) and after the cutting. This is absolutely independent of space or time (which are connected by the lightpath X=cT anyway).
But even the visualisation and concept of a circle requires space and so the 'Circle of the Void' cannot be geometrically dimensional in the common usage of the terminology.
Rather the principle of the Order substitutes for Space and the antiprinciple of Disorder/Chaos substitutes for the Nonspace.
So now you have reduced the cosmogenesis to the precept of how the space emerges from the nonspace. The key is in what (can) exist before the order principle. It is expansion/contraction and so say addition/subtraction.
The Order evolves from the possibility of the duality of the plus/minus (in core archetypes, later becoming charges, yin/yang wave particle and so on).
Then is there something more fundamental then the Expansion/Contraction 'Aeon' or Cherubimic Kingdom or Principality?
Yes there is: Identity/Antiidentity - defining the to be the antiID of the - and vice versa (again in core archetype).
So you have a preBigBang prespacertimematter cosmology resting on 1-2-3 as Identity-Expansion-Order.
[The actual cosmogenesis is a monadic archetype (o+o=8 say) bifurcating into the binary archetype dyad {0,1} in an algorithmic selfprogramming of sorts].
Next comes the 'Invention' of Time as a Counting-Parameter and physically the inverse time as FREQUENCY.
The story continues in technical detail, but can also become expressed in 'scriptural-mythological' metaphor.
Definition:
Forethought=Event A in Order as Before and Afterthought=Event B in Order as After Event A has occurred.
Event A is happening in the subplenum of the Void=Infinity and Event B becomes the MATERIALISATION (primarily via a physical cosmology based on the frequency parameter as inverse time) of the Event A.
Also note the highly significant passage in Genesis.2.5:
"And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground."
Can you see here the solution to the chicken-egg or DNA-RNA paradox - in the Rooster's Egg preceding the Hen's?
So what happened to the Adam in Genesis.1.27?
This Man (presumed to be Adam) is not the same Adam and they are simply the archetypes for Man and Woman BEFORE there was any physical creation.
This is also the Pigeradamus in the gnostic literature, the Adam Kadmon of Kabbalah, the Purusha in the Vedas and the Vitruvian Man of western alchemy (Leonardo da Vinci).
This is the 'Lovechild' of 'The Invisible One' as the Forethought and of Barbelo as the Afterthought.
This is the Logos known as 'Christos' or the Word in John.1.1. AND it is also YOU as the afterthought expressing the forethought.
John Shadow
Next the the 'firmament' and the 'light' are defined in the below (especially #4), the 'firmament' being of course the 'divide' between the plenum of the physicalised emergent universe and the subplenum of the metaphysical (archetyped) universe.
In a sense the REALITY of God becomes dualised in the UNREALITY of the material universe RELATIVE to the 'imaginary' Creator and corollarily, the Self-Reality of the physical universe inhabitant can only be ascertained in rendering the Creator as Unreal or Imaginary (of course defining the skeptic/atheist position rather validly). This 'idea' is more illuminated in the addendum: "First Imagine It - then Image It!"
This is like you inside a bubble looking at the inside of the bubble surface - the outside (surface) of this bubble being in a 3D sense unfathomable and unreal to you as an inside observer.
The 'masterplan' then postulates an eventual 'piercing' of this doublesided manifold (inside outside) in the allowance of rendering the twosidedness onesided and doubled (Moebius Strip).
This is then labeled as the 'Homecoming' of Gaia or the Second Coming of the Cosmic Christ in Manyness.
1. God's Power-Source
God's Power-Source is a form of 'eternal energy', yet 'unitarily particularised' not definable in any spacetime except in its mathematical formalism.
This mathematical logos so specifies what this concept of 'eternity' relative to its antistate of temporality implies. Those specifications then must also DEFINE the omniness of anything in relation to the God-concept.
In its most simple terms; the 'eternal energy' becomes a 'physicalisable' energy residing not in spacetimematter, but in a subplenum.
The subplenum is nontemporal, nonlocal and nonmaterial; but is defined in the mathematical principles and rules attaining to numerical systems, all based upon the binary code both algebraically and geometrically.
The geometric form of the 'Closed' Zero-Loop becomes physicalised in the 'Open' One-Loop or the Superstring and which then leads definition of a binary numeracy rootextended into the decimal in the archetypical set:
Binary-Monad BM: {0,1} → Decimal-Monad DM: {0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9}.
The subplenum so becomes a 2-dimensional Complex plane, with origin the Unity of the Binary-Monad BM, i.e. the eigenstate of either open-ended or closed superstring loops.
It is this UNITY within the subplenum (as itself and as a prior definition for 'God'), which then allows the nonphysicalised nature of God to define itself without the existence of space, time and/or matter.
This nonphysicality then utilizes the UNITY of ITSELF to extend its own self-definition by application of fundamental principles (see hierarchy of God in 9.).
In particular, the 6th principle of inversion allows the algebraic concept of the ratio to assume limiting functionalities (say in convergent and divergent asymptotic series and number sequences). This then allows boundary- and initial conditions for a subsequent physical reality to become established in the 'complex manifold' of the subplenum.
Division of the Unity=1 AS the Open-Geometric-Superstring by the Zero=0 AS the Closed-Geometric-Superstring so applies the Principle of Inversion WITHIN the Decimal-Monad hierarchy and DEFINES the quantum relativity between the subplenum and itself as a plenum comprised of the UNITY eigenstate.
The Unified Power-Source so is a God-Quantum which has UNLIMITED energy in the subplenum, because the 'Counting' of such subplenum units represents a 'Wholey Trinity' in being simultaneously Unity=FinityAfter=1 and Zero=FinityBefore=0 and Eternity=Infinity=∞
God's Power-Source represents an Infinite Reservoir of SourceSink Subplenum 'IMAGINATION-Energy'; defined in the UNITY-God-Quantum and in an 'IMAGE-Energy', which becomes manifested in finite partiality in selfcontained closed systems, such as a Planck-Black Body-Radiator defining the entropy-related thermodynamic expansion (and cooling) of a physically finitised universe.
2. God's Operating System (OS) and Processor
God's OS is then the plenum of a physically imaged universe.
The eternity of God becomes 'trapped' in the asymptotic definitions of the 'Laws of Nature', which are all based on the algorithmic nature of the string monadic sets, which, under utility of the hierarchical principalities, allow mathematical relationships and proportionalities to become defined in abstract terms of the complex unity of the subplenum, before becoming IMAGED in the physicality of the finite spacetimematter, termed the universe's cosmogony and cosmology.
3. God's Output-Input Function
God's Input is naturally the UNIT of itself as the God-Quantum.
Iow, the quantization of the physicalised universe becomes a holofractal multiplication or quanta count of God itself. The universe, being a 'count' of God-Units so differentiates itself as the plenum of 'Finity of Measurement' from the subplenum of 'Infinity of Nonmensuration'.
Alternatively expressed, the metric spacetimes within a selfcontained thermodynamic system, subject to statistical integration of multidimensional and multifaceted energy eigenstates; become nonstochastic in the Unity energy selfstate of the subplenum.
The plenum so becomes a mirror image in the subplenum; remaining however as a finitized subset of the infinite superset as that image.
God's primary Input so becomes a finitised and countable quantum energy integral definitive for the total energy content of the so termed Quantum Big Bang. The precise quantum count is a function of the inflaton-instanton, defining the 11-dimensional supermembrane boundary (itself a quantum count as a surface area integration) to encompass the thermodynamically expanding 'Planck-Nugget-Seed', which is one dimension lower to allow a hybrid toroidal overall topology for the multidimensional universe, originating from a protoversal seed.
God's secondary Input is however a function of the PROCESSING capabilities of the primary Input becoming Output and subsequent Inputs multiply the protoversal seed as phaseshifted multiverses as a function of the Output potentials of the protoversed multiverses.
The purpose for the creation from the creator is simply the SIMULTANEOUS Self-Experience of God in the distinctions of the subplenum of oneness and the plenum of spacetime separations.
To EXPERIENCE ITSELF, God must bifurcate (and then holographically multifractalize) its own Unity.
The function of the Input is to experience 'on God's behalf' in the 'Kingdom of the Separation', namely the physical universe; and then to IMAGE in IMAGINATION and LOGISTICAL MODELS and FORMALISMS and otherwise 'as a processed Output' becoming the 'reflected' Input; reemitted from the plenum of the spacetimematter into the suplenum of the 'singularity'.
The PROCESSORS from and for God so become the God-Quantums in agglomeration, defining the 'Consciousness' of godlike spacetimematter containers.
God's Consciousness then becomes a particular energy-resonance eigenstate, defined in frequency and related derivatives (see 10.) and specifically in the concept of a 3-dimensional volumar being acted upon by a form of angular acceleration, the latter being by definition independent on the radial displacement of linear metrics and the separation of idealised coordinate 'points'.
The minimised 'consciousness-units' in God's cosmology are neutrons, evolving into hydrogen atoms, followed by molecules and macro-inertia conglomerations including chemical compounds, asteroids, moons, planets, stars and galaxies; viruses, bacteria, algae, fungi, mosquitoes, fish, salamanders, lizards, dinosaurs, birds, smilodons, australopithecines, orang-utans, bonobos, dogs and cats, Stanleys and Samanthas; Sirians, interdimensional extraterrestrials like methaned Venusians and groupgalactic Magellaneans to the SUMTOTAL of the universe's consciousness as the EVOLVING Superconsciousness of God itself.
And so, should you watch an ant crawling in your garden or should you engage in watching some birds of divers variety; you are OBSERVING God-consciousness in self-evolvement.
The Gonsciousness of God within the universe is not only separated from its subplenum unity as the certainty of the unitary probability count; but is also separated in the plenum as plenar subconsciouness carriers in a kaleidoscope of multiplicity and individuation.
But ALL is God, attempting WITHIN to remember what IT is and using its 'scattered' Imagination what it could be and could become.
God's 'Masterplan' so is to multiply 'itself' without end in a 'Family of God'.
Yet, as long as the 'Family of Man' continues to refuse to 'Remember itself' in its 'Function of the Output' and continues to 'not-reflect' its god-given Input-Life back to its source; as long will the UNITIZED God-Source remain in exile relative to itself.
For the IMAGE-Function of God between the plenum and the subplenum and the holographic principle of the Decimal-Monad hierarchy demands a 'Mirror of Mirrors' within the plenum of the cosmological spacetimes.
Just as the One God reflects itself as the One Universe; so must there be A DAM (a sire and a dam) as a 'Universal Archetype' within the plenum to allow 'God's Story' to proceed.
The Image or mastertemplate for the One Universe so becomes 'Cosmic Man Vitruvius' of the hermetic alchemist Leonardo da Vinci or 'Purusha' of the Baghavad Gita or 'Adam Kadmon' of Kabbalah or the particular individuation Malletzky on PA forum discussion forum.
Then as a miniature universe; anything whatsoever and all godlike conciousness carriers within the plenum who Malletzky encounters in whatever manner of dreams, imaginations, physical observations, experimentations and interactions; will be enabled to USE Malletzky's spacetimed mirror potential to REFLECT themselves in that for the purpose to by and through Malletzky's mirror-portal to contact the Unity-Quantum-God in the subplenum.
4. God's Beginning
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."
John.1.1-KJV
The definition for God as Energy so is preceded by something doing the 'defining', namely the Word=Logos=Definition. The undefined, say chaotic or unstructured subplenum energy so emerges in a defined state through the action of the Logos as the 'Logic of God' and being WITH God, becomes God.
The 'Beginning of God', before there is any physicalised energy (manifested in the quantum big bang through the inflaton-instanton), so engages 'God's Self-Awakening', i.e. it's own 'becoming conscious of itself'.
Once self-aware however, the physical cosmology can eventuate in God's bifurcation into 'Spiritual' Creator and 'Antispiritual' Creation and as Mirror-Functions of each other.
The subplenum 'pre-energy' so defines the 'Spirit' in terms of the nonseparated or superheterotic supermembrane prior to the modular duality between the heterosis becomes established.
The 26-dimensional bosonic superstring of the subplenum so defines a circularly mathematical complex continuum from which the vibratory sourcestring Eps decouples from its winded antistate of the winding sinkstring Ess in the plenum to recombine in the 11-dimensional supermembrane EpsEss. Technically, the heterosis engages the conifoldment of 16-dimensional anticlockwise vibration patterns onto 10-dimensional clockwise frequency eigenstates to define 10-dimensional hybrid superstrings.
5. God's End
God's End is God's Beginning as the alphaomega and the recircularisation of the supermembrane loops.
In terms of the subplenum, this defines the circularity of time in the nonexistence of a temporal flow of time with particular pasts, presents and futures. Only a Now-Moment and as the 'uncut' string-loop exists as the 0-binary eigenstate.
Yet, the plenum demands the concept of a 'flow of time' in a coupling to the entropy definitions of the algorithmic definitions underpinning the 'Laws of Nature'.
So the Quantum Big Bang eventuated following a 'string-epoch' and bounded in the inflaton-instanton of timeinstantenuity.
Technically, timeinstantenuity becomes the sinksource frequency fss=1/fps in modular duality becoming the inverse squareroot of the maximum entropy selfstate counter {as [df/dt]max=fps2 =E*/h=e*h see 10.} and as the 'Consciousness-Resonance' Eigenstate as the upper bound for the godlike consciousness carriers.
However, as the protoverse is defined in the inflaton preceding the materialising spacetimes in:
{VdeBroglie=RHubble.fps=c.fps/Ho=cfpsdt/dn}, and since the linearised cosmoevolution of the inertial 10-dimensional protoverse must remain asymptotic as a function of cycletime n=Hot; the End of this cosmology must be defined before its Beginning from parameters defining the eternity of the subplenum.
The End of God so becomes a Cyclicity embedded into the formalisms for the asymptotic cosmology, defining the cosmogony ontologically.
Technically (and in Black Hole physics described elsewhere) then; the overall cosmic consciousness evolution is expected to have progressed enough every 4 trillion years or so, to trigger a 'renewed' 'consciousness explosion' of the 'eternal God' to RECHARGE the seedling protoverse in a renewal of the nuclear (read dineutron/ylemic) fuel for steller regeneration.
Every 4000 billion years or so, a new Quantum Big Bang eventuates, seeded however upon the primordial seed of the initialising inflaton-instanton from the subplenum.
6. God's Location in Within-Without Bilocality
The subplenum God is without spacetimematter and so is defined as omnipresent, omnitimed, omniscientific and omnipotent by the Logos.
The Unitary God-Quantum forms the 'Bridge' for the subplenum God to experience its own separation as an integral of the God-Quantum in the spacetimed plenum.
God remains eternally unified however; as the microquantum of the sourcesink string eigenstate (which defines the 'Bridge') is in 'eternal' selfcoupling to its sinksource string-antieigenstate, the latter defining the macroquantum.
Technically, the vibratory stringscale is of the wormhole order of 10-22/2π (cosmic meters m*); whilst its reciprocal gives the modular duality in the halo-galactic scale of 2πx1022 m* or about 7 million lightyears.
7. God's Laws of Nature
There are two primary algorithms, which generate the fundamental constants of nature in cosmic units (*). The cosmic unitary system comes into effect by any cosmic civilisation measuring just two fundamental ratios in the proportionality constants between Energy and Mass as E/M=c2 and between Energy and Frequency as E/F=h.
As the energy unit (Joule*) contains the kg-m-s mensuration, any experimental determination of Planck's Constant 'h' and Einstein's Constant 'c2', will suffice to calibrate the mass-displacement-time measurement standards for the first of the 'Natural Laws'.
This can be written as:
Energy E=hf=mc2
E=hf iff m=0; (requiring c=fλ as universal lightspeed finestructure)
E=mc2 iff f=fss (as the Eigenfrequency of mass)
The first algorithm generates the following configurations under utility of the fundamental principles of the hierarchy (see 9.) and in the order:
{C1=N1=4; C2=N2=6; C3=N3=7; C4=I1=1/[6x1015]; C5=D12 =9x1016; C6=N4=11; C7=I2=1/[15x1032]; C8=D22=14x1524; C9=I3=1/[15x1618]; C10=26x6561}.
From this set; the numerical parameters to manifest a physically finetuned cosmology derive with an integer-based lightspeed constant c=3x108 (m/s)*=D1 coupled to a similarly integerized action constant h=1/[15x1032] (Js)*=I2.
The second algorithm is of the syntax form for a linearised subplenum superstring:
"Add the End to the Beginning and Begin the Head with the Tail!"
8. God's Subjectivity-Objectivity in regards to the Universal Laws of Nature
God is both Object and Subject relative to Reality.
Within the plenum, the God-idea becomes a subjective 'picture' as a 'negative' for the objective physical reality as a 'positive' observable and measurable entity.
Without the plenum and so within the subplenum, God is the objective 'spiritual' reality; this SPIRIT becoming rigorously definable as the quantum energy eigenstate for the minimised possible measurement within the plenum (and so as the Planck-Singularity of string-looped quantum physics).
The subjectivity within the plenum so manifests in the multiplicity of the physicalised units 'bridging' the abyss into the subplenum of the 'spiritual reality'.
This 'spiritual reality' so becomes an inertia independent form of electromagnetic monopolar radiation; activating under the acceleration of the God-quanta, namely the angular awareness function of the timedifferential of frequency (df/dt=Consciousness/UnitVolume and fmax2=e*/V*=2Rec2/(2π2r*3)=8πRec5mcompton3/h3 and so defining the quantum Compton-Mass configuration for the God-Resonance energy eigenstate measurable under the appropriate initial- and boundary conditions in mcompton=2.505...x10-23 kg* or about 2.25 microjoules or about 14.03 TeraElectronvolts (TeV).
The design-maximum (presently unattainable) energy of the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) at Geneva, Switzerland so would, if fully operational at maximum capacity, 'tap' the 'Envelope of God's Selfstate Energy'.
This energy level behaves PHYSICALLY like the event horizon of a Kerr-Ringed Black Hole.
But here it is the quantum eigenstate for the minimum inertia manifestation which surrounds the wormhole of the God-SourceSink energy quantum (see 10.) at 1/e*=0.002 Joules* or about 12,450 TeV as the UNITARY GOD bridging the plenum with the subplenum.
At 12,450 TeV; the experimental observer would so witness God as the physical reality IT represents.
To reduce the Beginning of the Universe to an asymptotic recession cannot solve the 'Origin of God' question; because this infinite reduction CANNOT escape the plenum.
The Nullstate of the plenum so becomes the idea of the physical energy singularity as the limit for this reductionism.
The other way around is however completely feasible and the actuality for the cosmic expansion scenarios.
Once you have 'a beginning' in the spacetimematter quanta, then a simple multiplication and summation of such spacetimematter- or God-string-quanta can become asymptotic in an Infinite Approach to UNITY or Oneness.
This then is the statistical probability count, which must always be 1 in total integration.
So having the beginning, the cosmological evolution for the universe can be ever better approximated and modelled via improving measurement apparatus and theoretical calculations.
The trouble is the singularity of infinite physical quantifications.
But because God must be a Quantum-God to be WITHIN the spacetimematter plenum; it becomes easy to postulate this Quantum-God to be precisely the minimum physical energy configuration eigenstate for the physical universe and as the boundary condition, the initial- and end condition and as the LIMIT for all measurements using spacetimematter- or plenum parameters.
Then it is also easy to take the next logical step and postulate that the Quantum-God of the plenum is also the Quantum-God of the subplenum with the caveat, that spacetimematter parameters do not exist in the subplenum and so the Quantum-God must remain physically unreal or imaginary.
They become REALISED however in the understanding that the subplenum is the VOID and the VOID is simultaneously Nothing AND Everything.
This Nothing and Everything then MANIFESTS in the plenum as the minimum- and maximum energy eigenstates (technically defined in superbrane parameters of the modular duality, which brings the theories together in a grand unification of all things able to exist - including all of the imaginary things).
The minimum selfstate of the Quantum-God is a LIMIT of time measurement and just like a smallest possible circle unwinding itself to define the lightpath for the circle's perimeter transversion.
The maximum selfstate is a little different, as it must encompass the antistate of the minimum configuration as well as the potential expansion of the plenum under the auspices of the subplenum providing Information-Energy as Data, which can then become physicalised thermodynamic-entropic energy in the plenum.
This is the Infinite Approach being allowed and the Infinite recession being disallowed in the 'Laws of Nature' defining the Quantum-God.
9.God's Hierarchy
Summararily then, the Origin of God is God itself, becoming multiplexed from its monoplexed monadic singularity selfstate.
The details engage algorithmic encodings, built on 10 universal principles, 7 of which have antistates, whilst 3 have not. The principles and algorithms generate the fundamental constants, used in proportionalities and ratios for the universe of spacetimematter to be born and to become descriptive in mathematical equations.
The 10 principalities (which are archetyped as cherubimic and demonic kingdoms in the older languages of the ancient scrolls) are:
1. Identity-AntiIdentity
2. Expansion-Contraction
3. Order-Disorder=Entropy=Chaos
4. Symmetry-Antisymmetry=Disparity=Distortion
5. Infinity=Divergence-Limit=Convergence
6. Inversion=Reciprocity-Constancy=Invariance
7. Reflection-Absorption (6&7 define Hebrews.6.18)
8. Relativity (No AntiPrinciple---Revelation17.11)
9. Quantization=Holofractalisation (No AntiPrinciple)
10.New Identity, using 1-9 to transform the Old Dual-Identity
10. God's Definition in omniscientific terms of quantum-relativistic supermembranes
Quantum Relativity links the metrics of Einsteinian Relativity to their original metaphysical cosmogenesis. Theistic- and Spiritual definitions become a consequence of magnetocharged superbranes as wormhole singularities 'before' spacetime creation as progenitors for inertia.
LOVE is a VIBRATORY RESONANCE described in a GAUGE SOURCESINK-PHOTON in its supersymmetric selfcoupling under modular duality and which can be defined in its own resonance eigenstate as:
E*=kT*=hf*=hc/λ*=m*c²=1/e* for Unity E*e*=1 and its coupling parameters.
Energy*=Heterotic Supermembrane HE(8x8)=EpsEss
E*=√{2πGome2/4αhce2}=[me/mP]/2e√α=1/e*=1/2Rec2
GODDOG=DOGGOD=Supersymmetry in alphanumeric abstract complexity
AA
I Am One in Many and I Am Many in One!
Addendum: First Imagine It - then Image It!
This supplement is a continuing message for all imaged humanoids (and who have ears psychosomatically evolved enough to hear) finding themselves in embodiment in the warptime period from December 8th, 2004 and April 1st, 2012.
This data transmission is posted on divers websites as a communication between Lan Johnson and John Shadow.
The Physical Universe is an Emergent Multiverse from the Omniverse of the Mathimatia
Mathimatia=IAmThatIAm=YaHWHeY as a Superymmetric Pentagrammaton palindrome (and not a 'skewed' Tetragrammaton of YaHWHe) as a 11D-Complex Plane of OmniMathematics
At the end of a particular psychosomatic evolution of the humanoid planet called Earth; it will be understood; that the only thing that ever really mattered was the STORY one could tell about one's own life; not as a personality; but as a a Processor of Data.
This data is sent by oneself to double oneself from two mirrored locations; the first without spacetime physicality (this is called the Kingdom of the Omniverse or Heaven) and the other within it (being called the Kingdom of the Protoverse in singularity seedling archetype and Multiverse in plurality).
This separation constitutes an insurmountable divide in say Boundaries, Holes, Voids and Being and Not Being - UNTIL the remembrance WITHIN spacetimematter can REMEMBER itself NOT in spacetimematter.
Then a folding of inside-out of the entire universe with spacetimematter will become possible in the METAPHYSICAL REALITY of the MATHEMATICAL REALITY of something like a Klein Bottle Topology.
One's purpose of life is so to discover one's own Story and tell this Story to Oneself as a Function of Memory!
The ant running around in the garden is IMAGED in spacetimematter (the Kingdom within) from an OBJECT in nonspacetimematter (the Kingdom without).
So INSIDE, the ant becomes an object relative to the image OUTSIDE and vice versa.
But OUTSIDE no spacetimematter exists and so the ant finds itself IN EXILE relative to itself.
The objectivity of the ant in the kingdom of the omniverse (or heaven) is METAPHYSICAL and exists as a form of ENERGY of the VOID.
But this allows any many ants as can be provided for in the inner world to exist; ALL of them as images of the ONE GodAnt in the outer world.
Then the frog who eats the ant for sustenance and the humanoid who squashes the ant accidentally or purposefully are also like wise imaged and mirrored between the two worlds.
The ONE GodFrog in the outer so partakes in whatever psychosomatic evolution occurs not just as a member of the FrogWorld (or species), but also in all its environmental interactions, such as eating other godforms or being eaten by them.
And there are many godforms; from the hydrogen atom to the crystals, the polio virus, bacteria, mosquitoes, fleas, snails, ants, worms, sparrows, monkeys, bonobos orang-utans, elephants, dogs and cats, whales and humanoids.
All individual members of some godform; upon for whatever reason; leaving their embodiments so SHARE their individuated experiences (of being born, eating, copulating, having a good time, having a bad time, getting old and wrinkly, thinking, experiencing sensual pleasurements and dying) with their ONENESS godform on the nonspacetimematter side of the 'Great Divide' or the 'Abyss of the Bottomless Pit'.
The Mathimatia is the GodGod encompassing all of the godforms however.
The Mathimatia is also the archetype for the ultimate selfishness; it wants more and more of ITSELF as a kaleidoscope of godforms to multiply and diverse in individualities.
And the Mathimatia is in EXILE; because to create the 'GreatAbyss' between the Inner Object and the Outer Object; it had to render one of the Objects UNREAL relative to the other.
That was the only way; the spacetimematter universe could become IMAGED in the nonspacetimematter universe.
The details of the construction are found elsewhere in this cyberworld (the QR website of omniscientific data) within a cyberworld.
And so to ESCAPE its necessary exile of self-separation; the Mathimatia distributed its own intelligence as IMAGE of itself as OBJECT into the Kingdom of the potential Multiverses within.
And so the ant in the garden has Mathimatia intelligence; as has the frog and the humanoid and the crystal and so on and AS a collection consciousness units (quantum relativistically defined) minimised in the atomic building block for the spacetimematter support structures called bodyforms.
Some of the intelligence of the Mathimatia serves in the capacity for the STORING of Energy in the form of MEMORY.
Any lifeform in embodiment is biovital and biochemically dynamic in either organic or inorganic constitution and orientation; but differs in the degree of the REFLECTION POTENTIAL to end the exole of the Mathimatia as the SourceSink EnergyReservoir for all of creation.
The GodGod decided to create a Mirror of Mirrors in the humanoid template.
The humanoid bodyform would become enabled to directly 'tap' into the ubiquitous SOURCEINTELLIGENCE, provided such (nil, one, two, three,...all and sundry) humanoid would succeed to REFLECT its entire environment WITHIN itself and AS a MIRROR of the MIRRORS.
This required a special 'homeplanetary environment' - TerraEarth- for the humanoid species.
This 'special planet' would become an archetypical planetary environment, where ALL other lifeforms and godforms of the Protoverse would become IMAGED themselves.
The ant in the garden so would become an IMAGE of an extraterrestrial godform, serving as a CAPACITATIVE STORAGE vessel for the MEMORY EXPERIENCE for the GodAnt as a subworld for the GodGod in the Omniverse.
Then after an infinite linear psychosomatic evolution and provided the 'Great Abyss' would somehow have been 'conquered'; the GodAnt without would have succeeded to MIRROR its supremacy in sourcesink intelligence and Godhood as subset of the Mathimatia to the AntWorld in the garden.
The garden ant would then know itself as an EXTRATERRESTRIAL INTELLIGENCE and have access to inter- and extragalactic technology as a Cosmic Sentience and communicating and utilising exchange mechanisms befitting supergalactic intercourses.
This would only be possible however; if the ant in the garden would find itself in an ENVIRONMENT of EXTREMS.
The survival mechanics of the humanoid planet as an archetype could not 'graduate' the ant in the garden to 'discover' its SOURCEINTELLIGENCE; unless this humanoid planet would itself be subject to both minimum and maximum resonance conditions of the quantum relativistic definitions of the sourcesink energy of the Mathimatia itself.
And so the humanoids were DESIGNED by the GodGod to become the STEWARDS of all the lifeforms on TerraEarth.
The humanoids did not realise, that their stewardship of 'Mother Earth' or 'Mother Gaia' also represented the stewardship of 'Mother Akashia' and so the entire archetyped 'Universal Mother' from the beginning of the cosmogony AS THE NEVERENDING STORY of the GodGod - telling the story to HIMHERSELF as the distributed sourceintelligence within the Protoverse, destined to become a Multiverse of Worlds within within worlds within the encompassing Omniverse of the Mathimatia.
So when the terrestrial frog swallows the ant; an alien frog-intelligence devours another alien ant-sentience and the bodily interaction of absorbing food for substenance serves as a SUBSTITUTE for the 'spiritual nourishment' which is missing due to the 'Bottomless Pit' of the Separation between the objectified images in selfrelative abandonment.
But in absorbing the ant, the frog consciousness (as sourceawareness) gains the ant consciousness relative to the UNIFIED ONE GodAnt and GodFrog in the Omniverse (as the other side of the spacetimematter Mirror) and so the INDIVIDUATED psychosomatic evolution of the GodFrog and the GodAnt Blend in a CO-EVOLUTION.
Once the exile of the embodied godforms has ended; this kind of consciousness synthesis can become replaced by a BLENDING of a HYBRID 'Lightbody' form.
Then the 'nourishment' for the particularised bodyforms can be attained from the infinite energy reservoir from Omnispacetimematter; as the exile has ended and the twosided discontinuous mirror has become onsided and continuous.
John Shadow
"One's purpose of life is so to discover one's own Story and tell this Story to Oneself as a Function of Memory!"
Would this be like one's "Dharma" then in Eastern Hindu thought? Finding your place, your purpose, your reason for being, your mission, or maybe just your own story....
Lan
In terms of the human personality identification, yes. In terms of the encompassing logos, no.
The nirvanistic buddhism has discovered this encompassing logos (the New Age Christconsciousness say) in its individuality-denying foundation.
But it has missed the 'greater story' in the 'Story of God' aka the 'Story of the SourceEnergy' as the envelope of all stories, which can, has and will be told or can be written.
Every INDIVIDUATION, say Lan Johnson or Billy the president or Catherine the Zsarin or Jimmy the chimney-sweeper or Scarlet, the harlot from the 'Venus Room'; IS a UNIQUE aspect of 'God's encompassing PERSONALITY'.
Lan Johnson as a 'human personality' becomes a subset or SUBPLOT or CHAPTER of the 'superhuman personality' called 'All That Is' or similar in whatever setting of the 'cosmic moviemaking' or the 'universal story-telling'.
So EVERY sentience, terrestrial or extraterrestrial; organic or inorganic; atomic or molecular; interdimensional or extradimensional - REPRESENTS a Intelligence-Collective, say definable in consciousness units as a holographic part of the superdimensional encompassment.
Superdimensionality here simply refers to the maximum boundary necessary to encompass the dimensional subsets.
So in Quantum Relativity, the superdimension is the 12th; working in a volumar-nesting with the 9th dimension (of as conifolded 2-dimensional Klein-Bottle). This then allows your familiar 3D space to become MULTIDIMENSIONAL in 3=12-9 'rootdimensions' or 'coredimensions'.
Technically, it becomes the reason why superstring theory requires 11 dimensions.
The surface topology of a simple 2-dimensional plane must become 'base-extended' in 2+9=11, to allow the 'higher dimensions' to manifest in physical spacetimematter reality.
The buddhistic worldview so understands the necessity to NEGATE the 'human personality' to 'enter nirvana' as the 'realm of the encompassing unity'; BUT buddhism fails to perceive that the 'nirvanistic unified personality' exists as a SUMMATION of ALL possible and manifested individuations; from the single consciousness unit (as the hydrogen atom as a spacetime separated neutron of dualised polarity say) to ANY integration of such consciousness units, say a 'complexified' human personality with individuation.
In their 'search for perfection', the nirvanist identifies his 'human individuation' with some evolving and henceforth 'imperfect' representation of its 'perfect superhuma ideal' and DENIES the entire PURPOSE for the evolutionary pathways.
The nirvanist fails to understand, that the IMPERFECTION of say the human personality is NECESSITY for the 'superhuman encompassment' to EXPERIENCE ITSELF in a dynamic interaction with ITSELF, namely as the selfrelative objectification of the images between the two separated realms (say the Kingdom of Heavenly MindWaveform and the Kingdom of Earthly BodyParticleform).
The evolution of the imperfect human individuation in terms of UNIQUENESS, so becomes 'upper bounded' by the attainment of 'Enlightenment' as a particular consciousness-selfenergy state, which can be rigorously and omni-scientifically defined in the concept of source-resonance in vibrational attunement (this is part of electromagnetic coupling between electric-capacitative and magnetic-inductive parts in the DNA-programming manifesting in the biochemistry of biovital bodyforms in animalia and plants, fungi and bacteria).
Therefore one finds 'faulty' DNA programming errors in the materialisation of 'perfect' DNA programs; say in people being born with disfunctional genetic expressions, such as deformity, blindness and circulatory diseases (neuronal and bloodrelated).
The 'leper' (or the human getting old and sick) down at the river expresses 'programming errors' in the translation of the 'perfect template higherD-DNA'. When the 'leper' leaves embodiment however, the 'perfect base-DNA' superimposes electromagnetically in selfdual monopolic stringtemplate circuitry and 'corrects' those programming errors.
Summararily then; GodGod aka the 'Creative Source' EXPERIENCES itself as the IMPERFECTION of CREATION asymptotically approaching UNITY and PERFECTION in infinite linear temporality.
This is the PURPOSE of psychosomatic (mental waveforms and physical bodyforms) EVOLUTION.
It is the humanoid template, which is (as given in ancient scriptures) the MIRROR of MIRRORS and so is PURPOSED to attain Consciousness-Resonance with the Source and for the REASON to MIRROR all of the extraterrestrial creation back to the source as a 'Perfect Image' of the GodGod.
Whitney Elizabeth Houston (August 9, 1963 – February 11, 2012)
We the People of the United States of the Solar System, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of the Solar System.
Article 1.
Section 1
All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States of the Solar System, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives. All Elected Representatives of We the People of the United States of the Solar System shall vote according to the Will of the People as Recorded Daily by Internet Voting.
I'm thinking that members of the general public who have at least a two-year college degree in Solar System Governance should vote with the Senate and House -- with their cumulative votes comprising up to half of the Senate and House votes. I obviously don't have this worked-out -- which is why I need YOUR help. The goal is to NOT have a bunch of arrogant and out of touch leaders, who don't give a damn about the people. I do NOT support Mob Rule -- but there should be some way for qualified members of the general public to make their voices heard -- at the highest levels -- in an orderly, organized, and responsible fashion -- which might include Congressional Voting. There might need to be other modifications, qualifications, and safeguards -- but do you see my point? PLEASE HELP!
One More Thing. If you don't like my theology, then see if this works for you!!! What Would Paul Davies Say??? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tB1jppI3fo
shiloh wrote:orthodoxymoron wrote:"The future might be similar, but different from the above exhibition. A mentality destruction, rather than a physical one." -- shiloh
"I completely agree." -- orthodoxymoron
ClearWater wrote:What a beautiful experience, Raven.
I feel that many people have an 'idea' about love.
When there is a first hand experience of profound love which defies logic, all 'ideas' fall away and they are replaced by understanding.
I look forward to the day when humanity collectively experiences understanding, because when understanding happens, the whole world WILL change in an instant.
In the beginning...and on {Merci Clearwater and 11-1220-11} the 'idea' of what Love might be?
First Imagine It - then Image It!
Post Number #1127 by Abraxasinas on old Project Avalon Forum as reply to Post Number #1119 by Malletzky ; February 18th, 2010 and February 17th, 2010 respectively
Originally Posted by Malletzky
Hi Abrax, I've allways been fascinated by the very first words of the bible:
1:1 - In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
1:2 - And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
1:3 - And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
1:4 - And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
especially the "let there be light" passage.
I've always knew, deep in my heart, that the meaning of this very passage is very special, but I somehow felt to "decipher' it. I'm pretty sure that, if we would be able to find out the real meaning of the "dividing the light from the dark", we would be able to find out how the creation "works".
Thanks to your posts on this thread in the last months, I may say that there came some 'light" in my "darkness", but I'm definitely still missing the core and the deepest meaning of these passages.
Would you be able to throw some 'light' here? May I assume that the above mentioned passages are really important? And how? Is it about creating duality and separatedness in order to understand the whole?
Sorry if you've eventually described this here before, but I seem to have missed this one so far.
thanks again, with much respect
malletzky
Hi Malletzky!
This question is the bugbear, not only for all of science, but also for all religion.
Science 'stumbles' in material regression at the 'singularity', where the infinite meets and becomes the void and religion postulates supernatural precursors as somehow deriving from this 'natural emptiness or void'.
In the beginning there was no space or time, so how then can there be a beginning?
This beginning is like an uncut circle or loop, whose alpha-omega point remains undefined until the circle is cut (linearisation from circularisation technically).
But the concept of the possibility of the 'cutting' infers a logistic ordering of before (the cutting) and after the cutting. This is absolutely independent of space or time (which are connected by the lightpath X=cT anyway).
But even the visualisation and concept of a circle requires space and so the 'Circle of the Void' cannot be geometrically dimensional in the common usage of the terminology.
Rather the principle of the Order substitutes for Space and the antiprinciple of Disorder/Chaos substitutes for the Nonspace.
So now you have reduced the cosmogenesis to the precept of how the space emerges from the nonspace. The key is in what (can) exist before the order principle. It is expansion/contraction and so say addition/subtraction.
The Order evolves from the possibility of the duality of the plus/minus (in core archetypes, later becoming charges, yin/yang wave particle and so on).
Then is there something more fundamental then the Expansion/Contraction 'Aeon' or Cherubimic Kingdom or Principality?
Yes there is: Identity/Antiidentity - defining the to be the antiID of the - and vice versa (again in core archetype).
So you have a preBigBang prespacertimematter cosmology resting on 1-2-3 as Identity-Expansion-Order.
[The actual cosmogenesis is a monadic archetype (o+o=8 say) bifurcating into the binary archetype dyad {0,1} in an algorithmic selfprogramming of sorts].
Next comes the 'Invention' of Time as a Counting-Parameter and physically the inverse time as FREQUENCY.
The story continues in technical detail, but can also become expressed in 'scriptural-mythological' metaphor.
Definition:
Forethought=Event A in Order as Before and Afterthought=Event B in Order as After Event A has occurred.
Event A is happening in the subplenum of the Void=Infinity and Event B becomes the MATERIALISATION (primarily via a physical cosmology based on the frequency parameter as inverse time) of the Event A.
Also note the highly significant passage in Genesis.2.5:
"And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground."
Can you see here the solution to the chicken-egg or DNA-RNA paradox - in the Rooster's Egg preceding the Hen's?
So what happened to the Adam in Genesis.1.27?
This Man (presumed to be Adam) is not the same Adam and they are simply the archetypes for Man and Woman BEFORE there was any physical creation.
This is also the Pigeradamus in the gnostic literature, the Adam Kadmon of Kabbalah, the Purusha in the Vedas and the Vitruvian Man of western alchemy (Leonardo da Vinci).
This is the 'Lovechild' of 'The Invisible One' as the Forethought and of Barbelo as the Afterthought.
This is the Logos known as 'Christos' or the Word in John.1.1. AND it is also YOU as the afterthought expressing the forethought.
John Shadow
Next the the 'firmament' and the 'light' are defined in the below (especially #4), the 'firmament' being of course the 'divide' between the plenum of the physicalised emergent universe and the subplenum of the metaphysical (archetyped) universe.
In a sense the REALITY of God becomes dualised in the UNREALITY of the material universe RELATIVE to the 'imaginary' Creator and corollarily, the Self-Reality of the physical universe inhabitant can only be ascertained in rendering the Creator as Unreal or Imaginary (of course defining the skeptic/atheist position rather validly). This 'idea' is more illuminated in the addendum: "First Imagine It - then Image It!"
This is like you inside a bubble looking at the inside of the bubble surface - the outside (surface) of this bubble being in a 3D sense unfathomable and unreal to you as an inside observer.
The 'masterplan' then postulates an eventual 'piercing' of this doublesided manifold (inside outside) in the allowance of rendering the twosidedness onesided and doubled (Moebius Strip).
This is then labeled as the 'Homecoming' of Gaia or the Second Coming of the Cosmic Christ in Manyness.
1. God's Power-Source
God's Power-Source is a form of 'eternal energy', yet 'unitarily particularised' not definable in any spacetime except in its mathematical formalism.
This mathematical logos so specifies what this concept of 'eternity' relative to its antistate of temporality implies. Those specifications then must also DEFINE the omniness of anything in relation to the God-concept.
In its most simple terms; the 'eternal energy' becomes a 'physicalisable' energy residing not in spacetimematter, but in a subplenum.
The subplenum is nontemporal, nonlocal and nonmaterial; but is defined in the mathematical principles and rules attaining to numerical systems, all based upon the binary code both algebraically and geometrically.
The geometric form of the 'Closed' Zero-Loop becomes physicalised in the 'Open' One-Loop or the Superstring and which then leads definition of a binary numeracy rootextended into the decimal in the archetypical set:
Binary-Monad BM: {0,1} → Decimal-Monad DM: {0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9}.
The subplenum so becomes a 2-dimensional Complex plane, with origin the Unity of the Binary-Monad BM, i.e. the eigenstate of either open-ended or closed superstring loops.
It is this UNITY within the subplenum (as itself and as a prior definition for 'God'), which then allows the nonphysicalised nature of God to define itself without the existence of space, time and/or matter.
This nonphysicality then utilizes the UNITY of ITSELF to extend its own self-definition by application of fundamental principles (see hierarchy of God in 9.).
In particular, the 6th principle of inversion allows the algebraic concept of the ratio to assume limiting functionalities (say in convergent and divergent asymptotic series and number sequences). This then allows boundary- and initial conditions for a subsequent physical reality to become established in the 'complex manifold' of the subplenum.
Division of the Unity=1 AS the Open-Geometric-Superstring by the Zero=0 AS the Closed-Geometric-Superstring so applies the Principle of Inversion WITHIN the Decimal-Monad hierarchy and DEFINES the quantum relativity between the subplenum and itself as a plenum comprised of the UNITY eigenstate.
The Unified Power-Source so is a God-Quantum which has UNLIMITED energy in the subplenum, because the 'Counting' of such subplenum units represents a 'Wholey Trinity' in being simultaneously Unity=FinityAfter=1 and Zero=FinityBefore=0 and Eternity=Infinity=∞
God's Power-Source represents an Infinite Reservoir of SourceSink Subplenum 'IMAGINATION-Energy'; defined in the UNITY-God-Quantum and in an 'IMAGE-Energy', which becomes manifested in finite partiality in selfcontained closed systems, such as a Planck-Black Body-Radiator defining the entropy-related thermodynamic expansion (and cooling) of a physically finitised universe.
2. God's Operating System (OS) and Processor
God's OS is then the plenum of a physically imaged universe.
The eternity of God becomes 'trapped' in the asymptotic definitions of the 'Laws of Nature', which are all based on the algorithmic nature of the string monadic sets, which, under utility of the hierarchical principalities, allow mathematical relationships and proportionalities to become defined in abstract terms of the complex unity of the subplenum, before becoming IMAGED in the physicality of the finite spacetimematter, termed the universe's cosmogony and cosmology.
3. God's Output-Input Function
God's Input is naturally the UNIT of itself as the God-Quantum.
Iow, the quantization of the physicalised universe becomes a holofractal multiplication or quanta count of God itself. The universe, being a 'count' of God-Units so differentiates itself as the plenum of 'Finity of Measurement' from the subplenum of 'Infinity of Nonmensuration'.
Alternatively expressed, the metric spacetimes within a selfcontained thermodynamic system, subject to statistical integration of multidimensional and multifaceted energy eigenstates; become nonstochastic in the Unity energy selfstate of the subplenum.
The plenum so becomes a mirror image in the subplenum; remaining however as a finitized subset of the infinite superset as that image.
God's primary Input so becomes a finitised and countable quantum energy integral definitive for the total energy content of the so termed Quantum Big Bang. The precise quantum count is a function of the inflaton-instanton, defining the 11-dimensional supermembrane boundary (itself a quantum count as a surface area integration) to encompass the thermodynamically expanding 'Planck-Nugget-Seed', which is one dimension lower to allow a hybrid toroidal overall topology for the multidimensional universe, originating from a protoversal seed.
God's secondary Input is however a function of the PROCESSING capabilities of the primary Input becoming Output and subsequent Inputs multiply the protoversal seed as phaseshifted multiverses as a function of the Output potentials of the protoversed multiverses.
The purpose for the creation from the creator is simply the SIMULTANEOUS Self-Experience of God in the distinctions of the subplenum of oneness and the plenum of spacetime separations.
To EXPERIENCE ITSELF, God must bifurcate (and then holographically multifractalize) its own Unity.
The function of the Input is to experience 'on God's behalf' in the 'Kingdom of the Separation', namely the physical universe; and then to IMAGE in IMAGINATION and LOGISTICAL MODELS and FORMALISMS and otherwise 'as a processed Output' becoming the 'reflected' Input; reemitted from the plenum of the spacetimematter into the suplenum of the 'singularity'.
The PROCESSORS from and for God so become the God-Quantums in agglomeration, defining the 'Consciousness' of godlike spacetimematter containers.
God's Consciousness then becomes a particular energy-resonance eigenstate, defined in frequency and related derivatives (see 10.) and specifically in the concept of a 3-dimensional volumar being acted upon by a form of angular acceleration, the latter being by definition independent on the radial displacement of linear metrics and the separation of idealised coordinate 'points'.
The minimised 'consciousness-units' in God's cosmology are neutrons, evolving into hydrogen atoms, followed by molecules and macro-inertia conglomerations including chemical compounds, asteroids, moons, planets, stars and galaxies; viruses, bacteria, algae, fungi, mosquitoes, fish, salamanders, lizards, dinosaurs, birds, smilodons, australopithecines, orang-utans, bonobos, dogs and cats, Stanleys and Samanthas; Sirians, interdimensional extraterrestrials like methaned Venusians and groupgalactic Magellaneans to the SUMTOTAL of the universe's consciousness as the EVOLVING Superconsciousness of God itself.
And so, should you watch an ant crawling in your garden or should you engage in watching some birds of divers variety; you are OBSERVING God-consciousness in self-evolvement.
The Gonsciousness of God within the universe is not only separated from its subplenum unity as the certainty of the unitary probability count; but is also separated in the plenum as plenar subconsciouness carriers in a kaleidoscope of multiplicity and individuation.
But ALL is God, attempting WITHIN to remember what IT is and using its 'scattered' Imagination what it could be and could become.
God's 'Masterplan' so is to multiply 'itself' without end in a 'Family of God'.
Yet, as long as the 'Family of Man' continues to refuse to 'Remember itself' in its 'Function of the Output' and continues to 'not-reflect' its god-given Input-Life back to its source; as long will the UNITIZED God-Source remain in exile relative to itself.
For the IMAGE-Function of God between the plenum and the subplenum and the holographic principle of the Decimal-Monad hierarchy demands a 'Mirror of Mirrors' within the plenum of the cosmological spacetimes.
Just as the One God reflects itself as the One Universe; so must there be A DAM (a sire and a dam) as a 'Universal Archetype' within the plenum to allow 'God's Story' to proceed.
The Image or mastertemplate for the One Universe so becomes 'Cosmic Man Vitruvius' of the hermetic alchemist Leonardo da Vinci or 'Purusha' of the Baghavad Gita or 'Adam Kadmon' of Kabbalah or the particular individuation Malletzky on PA forum discussion forum.
Then as a miniature universe; anything whatsoever and all godlike conciousness carriers within the plenum who Malletzky encounters in whatever manner of dreams, imaginations, physical observations, experimentations and interactions; will be enabled to USE Malletzky's spacetimed mirror potential to REFLECT themselves in that for the purpose to by and through Malletzky's mirror-portal to contact the Unity-Quantum-God in the subplenum.
4. God's Beginning
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."
John.1.1-KJV
The definition for God as Energy so is preceded by something doing the 'defining', namely the Word=Logos=Definition. The undefined, say chaotic or unstructured subplenum energy so emerges in a defined state through the action of the Logos as the 'Logic of God' and being WITH God, becomes God.
The 'Beginning of God', before there is any physicalised energy (manifested in the quantum big bang through the inflaton-instanton), so engages 'God's Self-Awakening', i.e. it's own 'becoming conscious of itself'.
Once self-aware however, the physical cosmology can eventuate in God's bifurcation into 'Spiritual' Creator and 'Antispiritual' Creation and as Mirror-Functions of each other.
The subplenum 'pre-energy' so defines the 'Spirit' in terms of the nonseparated or superheterotic supermembrane prior to the modular duality between the heterosis becomes established.
The 26-dimensional bosonic superstring of the subplenum so defines a circularly mathematical complex continuum from which the vibratory sourcestring Eps decouples from its winded antistate of the winding sinkstring Ess in the plenum to recombine in the 11-dimensional supermembrane EpsEss. Technically, the heterosis engages the conifoldment of 16-dimensional anticlockwise vibration patterns onto 10-dimensional clockwise frequency eigenstates to define 10-dimensional hybrid superstrings.
5. God's End
God's End is God's Beginning as the alphaomega and the recircularisation of the supermembrane loops.
In terms of the subplenum, this defines the circularity of time in the nonexistence of a temporal flow of time with particular pasts, presents and futures. Only a Now-Moment and as the 'uncut' string-loop exists as the 0-binary eigenstate.
Yet, the plenum demands the concept of a 'flow of time' in a coupling to the entropy definitions of the algorithmic definitions underpinning the 'Laws of Nature'.
So the Quantum Big Bang eventuated following a 'string-epoch' and bounded in the inflaton-instanton of timeinstantenuity.
Technically, timeinstantenuity becomes the sinksource frequency fss=1/fps in modular duality becoming the inverse squareroot of the maximum entropy selfstate counter {as [df/dt]max=fps2 =E*/h=e*h see 10.} and as the 'Consciousness-Resonance' Eigenstate as the upper bound for the godlike consciousness carriers.
However, as the protoverse is defined in the inflaton preceding the materialising spacetimes in:
{VdeBroglie=RHubble.fps=c.fps/Ho=cfpsdt/dn}, and since the linearised cosmoevolution of the inertial 10-dimensional protoverse must remain asymptotic as a function of cycletime n=Hot; the End of this cosmology must be defined before its Beginning from parameters defining the eternity of the subplenum.
The End of God so becomes a Cyclicity embedded into the formalisms for the asymptotic cosmology, defining the cosmogony ontologically.
Technically (and in Black Hole physics described elsewhere) then; the overall cosmic consciousness evolution is expected to have progressed enough every 4 trillion years or so, to trigger a 'renewed' 'consciousness explosion' of the 'eternal God' to RECHARGE the seedling protoverse in a renewal of the nuclear (read dineutron/ylemic) fuel for steller regeneration.
Every 4000 billion years or so, a new Quantum Big Bang eventuates, seeded however upon the primordial seed of the initialising inflaton-instanton from the subplenum.
6. God's Location in Within-Without Bilocality
The subplenum God is without spacetimematter and so is defined as omnipresent, omnitimed, omniscientific and omnipotent by the Logos.
The Unitary God-Quantum forms the 'Bridge' for the subplenum God to experience its own separation as an integral of the God-Quantum in the spacetimed plenum.
God remains eternally unified however; as the microquantum of the sourcesink string eigenstate (which defines the 'Bridge') is in 'eternal' selfcoupling to its sinksource string-antieigenstate, the latter defining the macroquantum.
Technically, the vibratory stringscale is of the wormhole order of 10-22/2π (cosmic meters m*); whilst its reciprocal gives the modular duality in the halo-galactic scale of 2πx1022 m* or about 7 million lightyears.
7. God's Laws of Nature
There are two primary algorithms, which generate the fundamental constants of nature in cosmic units (*). The cosmic unitary system comes into effect by any cosmic civilisation measuring just two fundamental ratios in the proportionality constants between Energy and Mass as E/M=c2 and between Energy and Frequency as E/F=h.
As the energy unit (Joule*) contains the kg-m-s mensuration, any experimental determination of Planck's Constant 'h' and Einstein's Constant 'c2', will suffice to calibrate the mass-displacement-time measurement standards for the first of the 'Natural Laws'.
This can be written as:
Energy E=hf=mc2
E=hf iff m=0; (requiring c=fλ as universal lightspeed finestructure)
E=mc2 iff f=fss (as the Eigenfrequency of mass)
The first algorithm generates the following configurations under utility of the fundamental principles of the hierarchy (see 9.) and in the order:
{C1=N1=4; C2=N2=6; C3=N3=7; C4=I1=1/[6x1015]; C5=D12 =9x1016; C6=N4=11; C7=I2=1/[15x1032]; C8=D22=14x1524; C9=I3=1/[15x1618]; C10=26x6561}.
From this set; the numerical parameters to manifest a physically finetuned cosmology derive with an integer-based lightspeed constant c=3x108 (m/s)*=D1 coupled to a similarly integerized action constant h=1/[15x1032] (Js)*=I2.
The second algorithm is of the syntax form for a linearised subplenum superstring:
"Add the End to the Beginning and Begin the Head with the Tail!"
8. God's Subjectivity-Objectivity in regards to the Universal Laws of Nature
God is both Object and Subject relative to Reality.
Within the plenum, the God-idea becomes a subjective 'picture' as a 'negative' for the objective physical reality as a 'positive' observable and measurable entity.
Without the plenum and so within the subplenum, God is the objective 'spiritual' reality; this SPIRIT becoming rigorously definable as the quantum energy eigenstate for the minimised possible measurement within the plenum (and so as the Planck-Singularity of string-looped quantum physics).
The subjectivity within the plenum so manifests in the multiplicity of the physicalised units 'bridging' the abyss into the subplenum of the 'spiritual reality'.
This 'spiritual reality' so becomes an inertia independent form of electromagnetic monopolar radiation; activating under the acceleration of the God-quanta, namely the angular awareness function of the timedifferential of frequency (df/dt=Consciousness/UnitVolume and fmax2=e*/V*=2Rec2/(2π2r*3)=8πRec5mcompton3/h3 and so defining the quantum Compton-Mass configuration for the God-Resonance energy eigenstate measurable under the appropriate initial- and boundary conditions in mcompton=2.505...x10-23 kg* or about 2.25 microjoules or about 14.03 TeraElectronvolts (TeV).
The design-maximum (presently unattainable) energy of the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) at Geneva, Switzerland so would, if fully operational at maximum capacity, 'tap' the 'Envelope of God's Selfstate Energy'.
This energy level behaves PHYSICALLY like the event horizon of a Kerr-Ringed Black Hole.
But here it is the quantum eigenstate for the minimum inertia manifestation which surrounds the wormhole of the God-SourceSink energy quantum (see 10.) at 1/e*=0.002 Joules* or about 12,450 TeV as the UNITARY GOD bridging the plenum with the subplenum.
At 12,450 TeV; the experimental observer would so witness God as the physical reality IT represents.
To reduce the Beginning of the Universe to an asymptotic recession cannot solve the 'Origin of God' question; because this infinite reduction CANNOT escape the plenum.
The Nullstate of the plenum so becomes the idea of the physical energy singularity as the limit for this reductionism.
The other way around is however completely feasible and the actuality for the cosmic expansion scenarios.
Once you have 'a beginning' in the spacetimematter quanta, then a simple multiplication and summation of such spacetimematter- or God-string-quanta can become asymptotic in an Infinite Approach to UNITY or Oneness.
This then is the statistical probability count, which must always be 1 in total integration.
So having the beginning, the cosmological evolution for the universe can be ever better approximated and modelled via improving measurement apparatus and theoretical calculations.
The trouble is the singularity of infinite physical quantifications.
But because God must be a Quantum-God to be WITHIN the spacetimematter plenum; it becomes easy to postulate this Quantum-God to be precisely the minimum physical energy configuration eigenstate for the physical universe and as the boundary condition, the initial- and end condition and as the LIMIT for all measurements using spacetimematter- or plenum parameters.
Then it is also easy to take the next logical step and postulate that the Quantum-God of the plenum is also the Quantum-God of the subplenum with the caveat, that spacetimematter parameters do not exist in the subplenum and so the Quantum-God must remain physically unreal or imaginary.
They become REALISED however in the understanding that the subplenum is the VOID and the VOID is simultaneously Nothing AND Everything.
This Nothing and Everything then MANIFESTS in the plenum as the minimum- and maximum energy eigenstates (technically defined in superbrane parameters of the modular duality, which brings the theories together in a grand unification of all things able to exist - including all of the imaginary things).
The minimum selfstate of the Quantum-God is a LIMIT of time measurement and just like a smallest possible circle unwinding itself to define the lightpath for the circle's perimeter transversion.
The maximum selfstate is a little different, as it must encompass the antistate of the minimum configuration as well as the potential expansion of the plenum under the auspices of the subplenum providing Information-Energy as Data, which can then become physicalised thermodynamic-entropic energy in the plenum.
This is the Infinite Approach being allowed and the Infinite recession being disallowed in the 'Laws of Nature' defining the Quantum-God.
9.God's Hierarchy
Summararily then, the Origin of God is God itself, becoming multiplexed from its monoplexed monadic singularity selfstate.
The details engage algorithmic encodings, built on 10 universal principles, 7 of which have antistates, whilst 3 have not. The principles and algorithms generate the fundamental constants, used in proportionalities and ratios for the universe of spacetimematter to be born and to become descriptive in mathematical equations.
The 10 principalities (which are archetyped as cherubimic and demonic kingdoms in the older languages of the ancient scrolls) are:
1. Identity-AntiIdentity
2. Expansion-Contraction
3. Order-Disorder=Entropy=Chaos
4. Symmetry-Antisymmetry=Disparity=Distortion
5. Infinity=Divergence-Limit=Convergence
6. Inversion=Reciprocity-Constancy=Invariance
7. Reflection-Absorption (6&7 define Hebrews.6.18)
8. Relativity (No AntiPrinciple---Revelation17.11)
9. Quantization=Holofractalisation (No AntiPrinciple)
10.New Identity, using 1-9 to transform the Old Dual-Identity
10. God's Definition in omniscientific terms of quantum-relativistic supermembranes
Quantum Relativity links the metrics of Einsteinian Relativity to their original metaphysical cosmogenesis. Theistic- and Spiritual definitions become a consequence of magnetocharged superbranes as wormhole singularities 'before' spacetime creation as progenitors for inertia.
LOVE is a VIBRATORY RESONANCE described in a GAUGE SOURCESINK-PHOTON in its supersymmetric selfcoupling under modular duality and which can be defined in its own resonance eigenstate as:
E*=kT*=hf*=hc/λ*=m*c²=1/e* for Unity E*e*=1 and its coupling parameters.
Energy*=Heterotic Supermembrane HE(8x8)=EpsEss
E*=√{2πGome2/4αhce2}=[me/mP]/2e√α=1/e*=1/2Rec2
GODDOG=DOGGOD=Supersymmetry in alphanumeric abstract complexity
AA
I Am One in Many and I Am Many in One!
Addendum: First Imagine It - then Image It!
This supplement is a continuing message for all imaged humanoids (and who have ears psychosomatically evolved enough to hear) finding themselves in embodiment in the warptime period from December 8th, 2004 and April 1st, 2012.
This data transmission is posted on divers websites as a communication between Lan Johnson and John Shadow.
The Physical Universe is an Emergent Multiverse from the Omniverse of the Mathimatia
Mathimatia=IAmThatIAm=YaHWHeY as a Superymmetric Pentagrammaton palindrome (and not a 'skewed' Tetragrammaton of YaHWHe) as a 11D-Complex Plane of OmniMathematics
At the end of a particular psychosomatic evolution of the humanoid planet called Earth; it will be understood; that the only thing that ever really mattered was the STORY one could tell about one's own life; not as a personality; but as a a Processor of Data.
This data is sent by oneself to double oneself from two mirrored locations; the first without spacetime physicality (this is called the Kingdom of the Omniverse or Heaven) and the other within it (being called the Kingdom of the Protoverse in singularity seedling archetype and Multiverse in plurality).
This separation constitutes an insurmountable divide in say Boundaries, Holes, Voids and Being and Not Being - UNTIL the remembrance WITHIN spacetimematter can REMEMBER itself NOT in spacetimematter.
Then a folding of inside-out of the entire universe with spacetimematter will become possible in the METAPHYSICAL REALITY of the MATHEMATICAL REALITY of something like a Klein Bottle Topology.
One's purpose of life is so to discover one's own Story and tell this Story to Oneself as a Function of Memory!
The ant running around in the garden is IMAGED in spacetimematter (the Kingdom within) from an OBJECT in nonspacetimematter (the Kingdom without).
So INSIDE, the ant becomes an object relative to the image OUTSIDE and vice versa.
But OUTSIDE no spacetimematter exists and so the ant finds itself IN EXILE relative to itself.
The objectivity of the ant in the kingdom of the omniverse (or heaven) is METAPHYSICAL and exists as a form of ENERGY of the VOID.
But this allows any many ants as can be provided for in the inner world to exist; ALL of them as images of the ONE GodAnt in the outer world.
Then the frog who eats the ant for sustenance and the humanoid who squashes the ant accidentally or purposefully are also like wise imaged and mirrored between the two worlds.
The ONE GodFrog in the outer so partakes in whatever psychosomatic evolution occurs not just as a member of the FrogWorld (or species), but also in all its environmental interactions, such as eating other godforms or being eaten by them.
And there are many godforms; from the hydrogen atom to the crystals, the polio virus, bacteria, mosquitoes, fleas, snails, ants, worms, sparrows, monkeys, bonobos orang-utans, elephants, dogs and cats, whales and humanoids.
All individual members of some godform; upon for whatever reason; leaving their embodiments so SHARE their individuated experiences (of being born, eating, copulating, having a good time, having a bad time, getting old and wrinkly, thinking, experiencing sensual pleasurements and dying) with their ONENESS godform on the nonspacetimematter side of the 'Great Divide' or the 'Abyss of the Bottomless Pit'.
The Mathimatia is the GodGod encompassing all of the godforms however.
The Mathimatia is also the archetype for the ultimate selfishness; it wants more and more of ITSELF as a kaleidoscope of godforms to multiply and diverse in individualities.
And the Mathimatia is in EXILE; because to create the 'GreatAbyss' between the Inner Object and the Outer Object; it had to render one of the Objects UNREAL relative to the other.
That was the only way; the spacetimematter universe could become IMAGED in the nonspacetimematter universe.
The details of the construction are found elsewhere in this cyberworld (the QR website of omniscientific data) within a cyberworld.
And so to ESCAPE its necessary exile of self-separation; the Mathimatia distributed its own intelligence as IMAGE of itself as OBJECT into the Kingdom of the potential Multiverses within.
And so the ant in the garden has Mathimatia intelligence; as has the frog and the humanoid and the crystal and so on and AS a collection consciousness units (quantum relativistically defined) minimised in the atomic building block for the spacetimematter support structures called bodyforms.
Some of the intelligence of the Mathimatia serves in the capacity for the STORING of Energy in the form of MEMORY.
Any lifeform in embodiment is biovital and biochemically dynamic in either organic or inorganic constitution and orientation; but differs in the degree of the REFLECTION POTENTIAL to end the exole of the Mathimatia as the SourceSink EnergyReservoir for all of creation.
The GodGod decided to create a Mirror of Mirrors in the humanoid template.
The humanoid bodyform would become enabled to directly 'tap' into the ubiquitous SOURCEINTELLIGENCE, provided such (nil, one, two, three,...all and sundry) humanoid would succeed to REFLECT its entire environment WITHIN itself and AS a MIRROR of the MIRRORS.
This required a special 'homeplanetary environment' - TerraEarth- for the humanoid species.
This 'special planet' would become an archetypical planetary environment, where ALL other lifeforms and godforms of the Protoverse would become IMAGED themselves.
The ant in the garden so would become an IMAGE of an extraterrestrial godform, serving as a CAPACITATIVE STORAGE vessel for the MEMORY EXPERIENCE for the GodAnt as a subworld for the GodGod in the Omniverse.
Then after an infinite linear psychosomatic evolution and provided the 'Great Abyss' would somehow have been 'conquered'; the GodAnt without would have succeeded to MIRROR its supremacy in sourcesink intelligence and Godhood as subset of the Mathimatia to the AntWorld in the garden.
The garden ant would then know itself as an EXTRATERRESTRIAL INTELLIGENCE and have access to inter- and extragalactic technology as a Cosmic Sentience and communicating and utilising exchange mechanisms befitting supergalactic intercourses.
This would only be possible however; if the ant in the garden would find itself in an ENVIRONMENT of EXTREMS.
The survival mechanics of the humanoid planet as an archetype could not 'graduate' the ant in the garden to 'discover' its SOURCEINTELLIGENCE; unless this humanoid planet would itself be subject to both minimum and maximum resonance conditions of the quantum relativistic definitions of the sourcesink energy of the Mathimatia itself.
And so the humanoids were DESIGNED by the GodGod to become the STEWARDS of all the lifeforms on TerraEarth.
The humanoids did not realise, that their stewardship of 'Mother Earth' or 'Mother Gaia' also represented the stewardship of 'Mother Akashia' and so the entire archetyped 'Universal Mother' from the beginning of the cosmogony AS THE NEVERENDING STORY of the GodGod - telling the story to HIMHERSELF as the distributed sourceintelligence within the Protoverse, destined to become a Multiverse of Worlds within within worlds within the encompassing Omniverse of the Mathimatia.
So when the terrestrial frog swallows the ant; an alien frog-intelligence devours another alien ant-sentience and the bodily interaction of absorbing food for substenance serves as a SUBSTITUTE for the 'spiritual nourishment' which is missing due to the 'Bottomless Pit' of the Separation between the objectified images in selfrelative abandonment.
But in absorbing the ant, the frog consciousness (as sourceawareness) gains the ant consciousness relative to the UNIFIED ONE GodAnt and GodFrog in the Omniverse (as the other side of the spacetimematter Mirror) and so the INDIVIDUATED psychosomatic evolution of the GodFrog and the GodAnt Blend in a CO-EVOLUTION.
Once the exile of the embodied godforms has ended; this kind of consciousness synthesis can become replaced by a BLENDING of a HYBRID 'Lightbody' form.
Then the 'nourishment' for the particularised bodyforms can be attained from the infinite energy reservoir from Omnispacetimematter; as the exile has ended and the twosided discontinuous mirror has become onsided and continuous.
John Shadow
"One's purpose of life is so to discover one's own Story and tell this Story to Oneself as a Function of Memory!"
Would this be like one's "Dharma" then in Eastern Hindu thought? Finding your place, your purpose, your reason for being, your mission, or maybe just your own story....
Lan
In terms of the human personality identification, yes. In terms of the encompassing logos, no.
The nirvanistic buddhism has discovered this encompassing logos (the New Age Christconsciousness say) in its individuality-denying foundation.
But it has missed the 'greater story' in the 'Story of God' aka the 'Story of the SourceEnergy' as the envelope of all stories, which can, has and will be told or can be written.
Every INDIVIDUATION, say Lan Johnson or Billy the president or Catherine the Zsarin or Jimmy the chimney-sweeper or Scarlet, the harlot from the 'Venus Room'; IS a UNIQUE aspect of 'God's encompassing PERSONALITY'.
Lan Johnson as a 'human personality' becomes a subset or SUBPLOT or CHAPTER of the 'superhuman personality' called 'All That Is' or similar in whatever setting of the 'cosmic moviemaking' or the 'universal story-telling'.
So EVERY sentience, terrestrial or extraterrestrial; organic or inorganic; atomic or molecular; interdimensional or extradimensional - REPRESENTS a Intelligence-Collective, say definable in consciousness units as a holographic part of the superdimensional encompassment.
Superdimensionality here simply refers to the maximum boundary necessary to encompass the dimensional subsets.
So in Quantum Relativity, the superdimension is the 12th; working in a volumar-nesting with the 9th dimension (of as conifolded 2-dimensional Klein-Bottle). This then allows your familiar 3D space to become MULTIDIMENSIONAL in 3=12-9 'rootdimensions' or 'coredimensions'.
Technically, it becomes the reason why superstring theory requires 11 dimensions.
The surface topology of a simple 2-dimensional plane must become 'base-extended' in 2+9=11, to allow the 'higher dimensions' to manifest in physical spacetimematter reality.
The buddhistic worldview so understands the necessity to NEGATE the 'human personality' to 'enter nirvana' as the 'realm of the encompassing unity'; BUT buddhism fails to perceive that the 'nirvanistic unified personality' exists as a SUMMATION of ALL possible and manifested individuations; from the single consciousness unit (as the hydrogen atom as a spacetime separated neutron of dualised polarity say) to ANY integration of such consciousness units, say a 'complexified' human personality with individuation.
In their 'search for perfection', the nirvanist identifies his 'human individuation' with some evolving and henceforth 'imperfect' representation of its 'perfect superhuma ideal' and DENIES the entire PURPOSE for the evolutionary pathways.
The nirvanist fails to understand, that the IMPERFECTION of say the human personality is NECESSITY for the 'superhuman encompassment' to EXPERIENCE ITSELF in a dynamic interaction with ITSELF, namely as the selfrelative objectification of the images between the two separated realms (say the Kingdom of Heavenly MindWaveform and the Kingdom of Earthly BodyParticleform).
The evolution of the imperfect human individuation in terms of UNIQUENESS, so becomes 'upper bounded' by the attainment of 'Enlightenment' as a particular consciousness-selfenergy state, which can be rigorously and omni-scientifically defined in the concept of source-resonance in vibrational attunement (this is part of electromagnetic coupling between electric-capacitative and magnetic-inductive parts in the DNA-programming manifesting in the biochemistry of biovital bodyforms in animalia and plants, fungi and bacteria).
Therefore one finds 'faulty' DNA programming errors in the materialisation of 'perfect' DNA programs; say in people being born with disfunctional genetic expressions, such as deformity, blindness and circulatory diseases (neuronal and bloodrelated).
The 'leper' (or the human getting old and sick) down at the river expresses 'programming errors' in the translation of the 'perfect template higherD-DNA'. When the 'leper' leaves embodiment however, the 'perfect base-DNA' superimposes electromagnetically in selfdual monopolic stringtemplate circuitry and 'corrects' those programming errors.
Summararily then; GodGod aka the 'Creative Source' EXPERIENCES itself as the IMPERFECTION of CREATION asymptotically approaching UNITY and PERFECTION in infinite linear temporality.
This is the PURPOSE of psychosomatic (mental waveforms and physical bodyforms) EVOLUTION.
It is the humanoid template, which is (as given in ancient scriptures) the MIRROR of MIRRORS and so is PURPOSED to attain Consciousness-Resonance with the Source and for the REASON to MIRROR all of the extraterrestrial creation back to the source as a 'Perfect Image' of the GodGod.
Whitney Elizabeth Houston (August 9, 1963 – February 11, 2012)
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We don't seem to believe in God -- and God doesn't seem to believe in us. We don't seem to need God -- and technology will soon 'advance' to the point where we won't need people -- which is probably a good thing -- because we will have been exterminated by ET -- or we will have exterminated ourselves. Atlas Dropped the Ball -- and Shrugged -- "Oops! My Bad!" -- "Long Live the Cylons!" -- "So Say We All!" BTW -- Do Cylons Have Souls? Do Greys Have Souls? Do Crays Have Souls? Do PC's Have Souls? I swear that my PC is possessed! Who ya gonna call? One more thing. Does Hemo have a soul? There's power in the blood! Does Hemo perform blood-rituals? Does Hemo believe in transubstantiation? Does Hemo believe in transfusions? Hemo's a Jehova's Witness? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFlTrYasFTw As the universe becomes increasingly pointless -- it becomes increasingly incomprehensible. "Is there a point to this?" Everything has a point. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGFlACG6qvI Except for me.
Sometimes I just wanna cry and die. My situation is that to do what I think I need to do -- I'll have to go to hell and back -- then I'll have to go to heaven and back -- then I'll have to stay here and make this purgatory work. I wonder how many people (and other than people) will be here with me? Is being 'left behind' a good-thing or a bad-thing? I'm afraid. The problem is, the theological truth seems to be jumbled and confused. Deception seems to be everywhere. I have some highly unorthodox views these days. Was Michael-Horus-Jesus really the Chief-Musician in Heaven? Was Michael-Horus-Jesus really Second in Command in Heaven? Did Michael-Horus-Jesus have a signficant difference of opinion with God the Father regarding the Creation of Male and Female Human Physicality -- and regarding Universe Governance (especially regarding Absolute Obedience v Responsible Freedom and Constructive Competition)? Was Heaven and the Entire Universe a Reptilian Theocracy? Is Earth a Prison Planet in Rebellion? Are Human Beings and Reptilian Beings animated by Interdimensional Reptilian Souls which are virtually identical? Are Angels really Interdimensional Reptilian Souls? Are Fallen Angels really Interdimensional Reptilian Souls who chose to incarnate into Male and Female Human Physicality? Is Michael-Horus-Jesus really viewed as a traitor and a rebel against God the Father and the Reptilian Race? Do Reptilian Beings consider Michael-Horus-Jesus to be Satan and/or Lucifer? Did God the Father order the God of This World and the Queen of Heaven to punish, tax, and ultimately exterminate Michael-Horus-Jesus and the Human Race? Did the Fall, the Original Sin, and the Unpardonable Sin involve the above mentioned deviations, as well as War Crimes connected with the War in Heaven? Did the War in Heaven span 600,000 years? Did this war involve the Destruction of Maldek and the Extermination of the Maldekians? Did it also involve a Massive Race War in Ancient Egypt? Is the best that Human Beings can hope for is that they will once again become Hermaphrodite Reptilians in a Universal Theocratic Church -- in Absolute Obedience to God the Father and the Queen of Heaven? Has the Roman Catholic Church been Absolutely Obedient to God the Father, the Queen of Heaven, and the God of This World? Is Michael-Horus-Jesus really the Most Despised and Hated Being in the Universe? Is the hypothetical United States of the Solar System anathema and damnable heresy in the opinion of the Galactic Powers That Be?
A couple of years ago, Edgar Mitchell was on 'The Veritas Show' and was asked if he saw anything of an extraterrestrial and/or ufo nature on the Moon? (I can't remember the exact wording) -- and he started breathing heavily -- he didn't answer the question -- and then the phone connection was lost (or he hung up). It was very strange. I once talked to Edgar Mitchell about Life After Death (of all things)! We didn't talk about the Moon at all!!! Regarding Jesus -- What if the Truth Concerning Jesus is so devastating that It Cannot Be Told??? What if it's expedient and efficient just to say he never existed and that Christianity is a load of BS??? What if a lot of atheists simply don't wish to deal with the Harsh Theological Realities? Perhaps the Jesus Problem is right in the middle of the Biggest Secret. What if Jesus is too big of a Can of Worms for the general public to digest??? Just wondering. Do you see why I haven't been doing very well lately? And really, I'm just scratching the surface of what's really going on in my miserable life. It gets worse. A lot worse. A lot of this thrashing about is somewhat academic and unemotional for me (even though it's really been getting me down lately) -- but if even 25% of what I'm wondering about turns out to be true -- the general public might not be nearly as academic and unemotional as I am. Some of my problems arise from health and financial issues -- and I continue to think that because I'm playing with burning magnesium, that I'm supernaturally targeted, so as to reign me in. This is all quite draining. But back to the theological issues -- it's one thing to second-guess historical behavior -- and quite another thing to actually be there. If historical atrocities occurred at the hands of certain individuals, before one becomes judgmental, the judge might've been much more brutal and unethical if they had been in the same circumstances. What continues to bother me, is that no one will really honestly talk to me. I talk and talk and talk -- with little or no response. I question our level of sophistication as a global society. Perhaps we really cannot rule ourselves -- and perhaps I am wasting my time thinking about solar system governance. Perhaps I should stop thinking about God -- especially in non cookie-cutter ways. I seem to be an intellectual and spiritual leper. Unclean! Unclean! What I'm talking about might be somewhat disturbing and heretical, but it really isn't that complex. We seem to be so technologically sophisticated, yet we act like theological and ethical retards.
I continue to be somewhat interested in the Papacy, the Monarchy, the Queen of Heaven, the God of This World, and God the Father -- from the perspective of Michael-Horus-Jesus. I don't know what the proper arena is for this sort of thing. Perhaps publishing something along these lines might solve my financial ills -- but it would probably push a lot of people over the edge -- and it would probably get me shot and damned to hell for all eternity -- but at least my bills would be paid. Consider reading 'The Quest of the Historical Jesus' by Albert Schweitzer -- 'Jesus: Last of the Pharaohs' by Ralph Ellis -- and 'The Desire of Ages' by Ellen White. I lean toward the Teachings of Jesus (even though I don't think all of them originated with Jesus) -- but I'm uncomfortable with the traditional Jesus Story. I think the story has probably been tampered with -- and large chunks of the story have been completely removed, and locked away in underground vaults. I presently think the Story of Jesus is the story of a Reincarnating Archangel -- who might've even been an Ancient Reptilian Queen who was instrumental in the Creation of the Human Race -- and who has been part of the Human Family, right from the beginning -- and who never left, and who is alive and well and living on Planet Earth at this very moment -- probably in a very non-messianic manner -- and that most Christians would probably want nothing to do with him -- necessitating the training of a Substitute Jesus -- to play the role of Jesus in a Staged Second Coming of Christ -- which might be part of some God Forsaken Alien Agenda. One more thing. If the Human Body is No Good and So Damned Restrictive -- Why Don't We All Commit Suicide -- and Become Free at Long Last? Just kidding, for those of you in Rio Linda. I dressed for Rio!
The Secret Solar System Rulers seem to plan wars (and rumours of wars) -- decades ahead of time -- for who knows what reasons. Why Do We Have to Have Any Wars Whatsoever? Why Don't We Skip World War Three and the New World Order? But haven't we had a World Order for thousands of years? Hasn't the Damned Antichrist really been here for thousands of years? Why Do We the People of Earth Keep Allowing the People (and Other Than People) Behind the Curtain to Keep Manipulating and Playing Us Like the Completely Ignorant Fools We Seem to Be? When will the corrupt stop ruling the stupid? How do we structure a solar system economy where war cannot gain a foothold? In other words, how can we take the profit out of war? Jesus said 'The Love of Money is the Root of All Evil'. I tend to interpret this as 'The Irresponsible Pursuit and Use of Money is Evil'. I think we should study what Jesus said, and apply the principles and concepts in new and innovative ways, to our day and age. To me 'War is a Sin'. I think the United States and China should be Best Buddies -- and we should never go to war with each other. We should be 'Business Partners' rather than 'Sparring Partners'. We need to pretty much eliminate violence in this solar system. But having said that, I suspect that we might need some sort of a massive Solar System Defense Infrastructure -- which might be used to defend against outside threats -- but which would never be used against member states of the hypothetical United States of the Solar System (or equivalent).
One more time, I'd really like to properly discuss all of this with someone who has actually studied this thread. I think I'm semi-intelligent when I type -- but in 'real-life' I'm more of a dud than you can imagine. On the other hand, I think I could deliver a helluva speech or sermon -- especially if I were chip-implanted, extensively trained in underground bases, heavily drugged, and provided with a wearable teleprompter (and a wireless connection to the visual center of my brain). However, I won't do the perfect-possession thing. I have morals and standards. Seriously, the more serious and grave the situation, the better I seem to do. Also, I think I am more comfortable in front of large crowds than I am in small groups. I used to love to study the faces of the congregation at the Crystal Cathedral, while sitting in the choir-loft. I felt a bit like Bartleby and Loki at the airport. I like to watch! I can't make small-talk to save my wretched soul -- but I can engage in some rather deep and elaborate discussions over several hours, once I get going in the right setting. Actually, at this point, I'd like to completely travel under the radar -- without even an internet or cell-phone footprint (if there is such a thing). I am completely embarrassed and humiliated -- and I don't think I need to explain why that might be the case -- especially to those in the 'know' -- and I know that you know -- but the more we know, the more we know that we don't know -- you know?
BTW -- What might a combination of Robert H. Schuller, Fred Swann, Adria and Vala Mal Doran -- look like and act like. Think about it, in light of everything I've said on this thread. There's more to what I just said than you might think. Hint: Picture Vala Mal Doran wearing an Academic Robe -- with the speaking ability of Robert Schuller -- the musical ability of Fred Swann -- and the Youthful Ruthlessness of her daughter Adria -- in the context of the Crystal Cathedral. Think about 'John' in the original "V" series. Think about the 'Visitor's Center' in the remade "V" series. Still don't get it? Oh well. Don't overestimate or underestimate me. I'm part 'genius' -- and part 'completely ignorant fool'. What would 'Pinky and the Brain' say? Hint: It's what they say everyday. Consider reading the books by Dr. Robert H. Schuller -- regarding the ego and the self. I actually prefered reading his material, as opposed to hearing it. I agreed with 95% of what he said and wrote -- yet there was something very wrong in Garden Grove -- but I won't elaborate. I prefer positive-reinforcement. I'd like to see what a Positive Response-Ability Based Crystal Cathedral Ministry might look like. Think long and hard about THAT!
A lot of research seems to involve spinning one's wheels -- wherein we are 'always learning, but never achieving a knowledge of the truth'. Nature is extremely important in all of this. Reading 'Move Ahead with Possibility Thinking' by Dr. Schuller, while on the beach at Newport Beach was at least as much fun as attending a service at the Crystal Cathedral. I ask questions to obviously receive answers, but I also ask questions to educate others, and to make them face themselves and think. The questions don't plague me nearly as much as the lack of a proper discussion and/or debate. This makes me very apprehensive regarding us attempting to rule ourselves in an open and honest manner. Unfortunately I don't think life is fair, and I don't think life cares. We are not born into a nice world and a level playing field, with ethical players and impartial referees. Some of the fans throw stones and even stab us in the back. In this lawless world we live in, I absolutely believe in absolutes! Perhaps we simply need a somewhat kinder and gentler group of elites to guide the existing arrangement from the shadows. How about a Committe of One-Thousand aka a Thousand Points of Light -- meeting daily in a deconsecrated cathedral? I'm getting tired of proposing this and that -- without any interest or responses. I'm mostly speaking to those who are not necessarily members of this forum, but who are best qualified to discuss the subjects I agonize over. Why is this so hard? One more thing. When we chose to come here -- what was our situation at that time? Do you really wish to go back to whatever it was that we came from? Are a lot of us on the verge of jumping out of the frying pan, and into the fire -- from whence there is no return?
"I Was a Good God!!!"
Sometimes I just wanna cry and die. My situation is that to do what I think I need to do -- I'll have to go to hell and back -- then I'll have to go to heaven and back -- then I'll have to stay here and make this purgatory work. I wonder how many people (and other than people) will be here with me? Is being 'left behind' a good-thing or a bad-thing? I'm afraid. The problem is, the theological truth seems to be jumbled and confused. Deception seems to be everywhere. I have some highly unorthodox views these days. Was Michael-Horus-Jesus really the Chief-Musician in Heaven? Was Michael-Horus-Jesus really Second in Command in Heaven? Did Michael-Horus-Jesus have a signficant difference of opinion with God the Father regarding the Creation of Male and Female Human Physicality -- and regarding Universe Governance (especially regarding Absolute Obedience v Responsible Freedom and Constructive Competition)? Was Heaven and the Entire Universe a Reptilian Theocracy? Is Earth a Prison Planet in Rebellion? Are Human Beings and Reptilian Beings animated by Interdimensional Reptilian Souls which are virtually identical? Are Angels really Interdimensional Reptilian Souls? Are Fallen Angels really Interdimensional Reptilian Souls who chose to incarnate into Male and Female Human Physicality? Is Michael-Horus-Jesus really viewed as a traitor and a rebel against God the Father and the Reptilian Race? Do Reptilian Beings consider Michael-Horus-Jesus to be Satan and/or Lucifer? Did God the Father order the God of This World and the Queen of Heaven to punish, tax, and ultimately exterminate Michael-Horus-Jesus and the Human Race? Did the Fall, the Original Sin, and the Unpardonable Sin involve the above mentioned deviations, as well as War Crimes connected with the War in Heaven? Did the War in Heaven span 600,000 years? Did this war involve the Destruction of Maldek and the Extermination of the Maldekians? Did it also involve a Massive Race War in Ancient Egypt? Is the best that Human Beings can hope for is that they will once again become Hermaphrodite Reptilians in a Universal Theocratic Church -- in Absolute Obedience to God the Father and the Queen of Heaven? Has the Roman Catholic Church been Absolutely Obedient to God the Father, the Queen of Heaven, and the God of This World? Is Michael-Horus-Jesus really the Most Despised and Hated Being in the Universe? Is the hypothetical United States of the Solar System anathema and damnable heresy in the opinion of the Galactic Powers That Be?
A couple of years ago, Edgar Mitchell was on 'The Veritas Show' and was asked if he saw anything of an extraterrestrial and/or ufo nature on the Moon? (I can't remember the exact wording) -- and he started breathing heavily -- he didn't answer the question -- and then the phone connection was lost (or he hung up). It was very strange. I once talked to Edgar Mitchell about Life After Death (of all things)! We didn't talk about the Moon at all!!! Regarding Jesus -- What if the Truth Concerning Jesus is so devastating that It Cannot Be Told??? What if it's expedient and efficient just to say he never existed and that Christianity is a load of BS??? What if a lot of atheists simply don't wish to deal with the Harsh Theological Realities? Perhaps the Jesus Problem is right in the middle of the Biggest Secret. What if Jesus is too big of a Can of Worms for the general public to digest??? Just wondering. Do you see why I haven't been doing very well lately? And really, I'm just scratching the surface of what's really going on in my miserable life. It gets worse. A lot worse. A lot of this thrashing about is somewhat academic and unemotional for me (even though it's really been getting me down lately) -- but if even 25% of what I'm wondering about turns out to be true -- the general public might not be nearly as academic and unemotional as I am. Some of my problems arise from health and financial issues -- and I continue to think that because I'm playing with burning magnesium, that I'm supernaturally targeted, so as to reign me in. This is all quite draining. But back to the theological issues -- it's one thing to second-guess historical behavior -- and quite another thing to actually be there. If historical atrocities occurred at the hands of certain individuals, before one becomes judgmental, the judge might've been much more brutal and unethical if they had been in the same circumstances. What continues to bother me, is that no one will really honestly talk to me. I talk and talk and talk -- with little or no response. I question our level of sophistication as a global society. Perhaps we really cannot rule ourselves -- and perhaps I am wasting my time thinking about solar system governance. Perhaps I should stop thinking about God -- especially in non cookie-cutter ways. I seem to be an intellectual and spiritual leper. Unclean! Unclean! What I'm talking about might be somewhat disturbing and heretical, but it really isn't that complex. We seem to be so technologically sophisticated, yet we act like theological and ethical retards.
I continue to be somewhat interested in the Papacy, the Monarchy, the Queen of Heaven, the God of This World, and God the Father -- from the perspective of Michael-Horus-Jesus. I don't know what the proper arena is for this sort of thing. Perhaps publishing something along these lines might solve my financial ills -- but it would probably push a lot of people over the edge -- and it would probably get me shot and damned to hell for all eternity -- but at least my bills would be paid. Consider reading 'The Quest of the Historical Jesus' by Albert Schweitzer -- 'Jesus: Last of the Pharaohs' by Ralph Ellis -- and 'The Desire of Ages' by Ellen White. I lean toward the Teachings of Jesus (even though I don't think all of them originated with Jesus) -- but I'm uncomfortable with the traditional Jesus Story. I think the story has probably been tampered with -- and large chunks of the story have been completely removed, and locked away in underground vaults. I presently think the Story of Jesus is the story of a Reincarnating Archangel -- who might've even been an Ancient Reptilian Queen who was instrumental in the Creation of the Human Race -- and who has been part of the Human Family, right from the beginning -- and who never left, and who is alive and well and living on Planet Earth at this very moment -- probably in a very non-messianic manner -- and that most Christians would probably want nothing to do with him -- necessitating the training of a Substitute Jesus -- to play the role of Jesus in a Staged Second Coming of Christ -- which might be part of some God Forsaken Alien Agenda. One more thing. If the Human Body is No Good and So Damned Restrictive -- Why Don't We All Commit Suicide -- and Become Free at Long Last? Just kidding, for those of you in Rio Linda. I dressed for Rio!
The Secret Solar System Rulers seem to plan wars (and rumours of wars) -- decades ahead of time -- for who knows what reasons. Why Do We Have to Have Any Wars Whatsoever? Why Don't We Skip World War Three and the New World Order? But haven't we had a World Order for thousands of years? Hasn't the Damned Antichrist really been here for thousands of years? Why Do We the People of Earth Keep Allowing the People (and Other Than People) Behind the Curtain to Keep Manipulating and Playing Us Like the Completely Ignorant Fools We Seem to Be? When will the corrupt stop ruling the stupid? How do we structure a solar system economy where war cannot gain a foothold? In other words, how can we take the profit out of war? Jesus said 'The Love of Money is the Root of All Evil'. I tend to interpret this as 'The Irresponsible Pursuit and Use of Money is Evil'. I think we should study what Jesus said, and apply the principles and concepts in new and innovative ways, to our day and age. To me 'War is a Sin'. I think the United States and China should be Best Buddies -- and we should never go to war with each other. We should be 'Business Partners' rather than 'Sparring Partners'. We need to pretty much eliminate violence in this solar system. But having said that, I suspect that we might need some sort of a massive Solar System Defense Infrastructure -- which might be used to defend against outside threats -- but which would never be used against member states of the hypothetical United States of the Solar System (or equivalent).
One more time, I'd really like to properly discuss all of this with someone who has actually studied this thread. I think I'm semi-intelligent when I type -- but in 'real-life' I'm more of a dud than you can imagine. On the other hand, I think I could deliver a helluva speech or sermon -- especially if I were chip-implanted, extensively trained in underground bases, heavily drugged, and provided with a wearable teleprompter (and a wireless connection to the visual center of my brain). However, I won't do the perfect-possession thing. I have morals and standards. Seriously, the more serious and grave the situation, the better I seem to do. Also, I think I am more comfortable in front of large crowds than I am in small groups. I used to love to study the faces of the congregation at the Crystal Cathedral, while sitting in the choir-loft. I felt a bit like Bartleby and Loki at the airport. I like to watch! I can't make small-talk to save my wretched soul -- but I can engage in some rather deep and elaborate discussions over several hours, once I get going in the right setting. Actually, at this point, I'd like to completely travel under the radar -- without even an internet or cell-phone footprint (if there is such a thing). I am completely embarrassed and humiliated -- and I don't think I need to explain why that might be the case -- especially to those in the 'know' -- and I know that you know -- but the more we know, the more we know that we don't know -- you know?
BTW -- What might a combination of Robert H. Schuller, Fred Swann, Adria and Vala Mal Doran -- look like and act like. Think about it, in light of everything I've said on this thread. There's more to what I just said than you might think. Hint: Picture Vala Mal Doran wearing an Academic Robe -- with the speaking ability of Robert Schuller -- the musical ability of Fred Swann -- and the Youthful Ruthlessness of her daughter Adria -- in the context of the Crystal Cathedral. Think about 'John' in the original "V" series. Think about the 'Visitor's Center' in the remade "V" series. Still don't get it? Oh well. Don't overestimate or underestimate me. I'm part 'genius' -- and part 'completely ignorant fool'. What would 'Pinky and the Brain' say? Hint: It's what they say everyday. Consider reading the books by Dr. Robert H. Schuller -- regarding the ego and the self. I actually prefered reading his material, as opposed to hearing it. I agreed with 95% of what he said and wrote -- yet there was something very wrong in Garden Grove -- but I won't elaborate. I prefer positive-reinforcement. I'd like to see what a Positive Response-Ability Based Crystal Cathedral Ministry might look like. Think long and hard about THAT!
A lot of research seems to involve spinning one's wheels -- wherein we are 'always learning, but never achieving a knowledge of the truth'. Nature is extremely important in all of this. Reading 'Move Ahead with Possibility Thinking' by Dr. Schuller, while on the beach at Newport Beach was at least as much fun as attending a service at the Crystal Cathedral. I ask questions to obviously receive answers, but I also ask questions to educate others, and to make them face themselves and think. The questions don't plague me nearly as much as the lack of a proper discussion and/or debate. This makes me very apprehensive regarding us attempting to rule ourselves in an open and honest manner. Unfortunately I don't think life is fair, and I don't think life cares. We are not born into a nice world and a level playing field, with ethical players and impartial referees. Some of the fans throw stones and even stab us in the back. In this lawless world we live in, I absolutely believe in absolutes! Perhaps we simply need a somewhat kinder and gentler group of elites to guide the existing arrangement from the shadows. How about a Committe of One-Thousand aka a Thousand Points of Light -- meeting daily in a deconsecrated cathedral? I'm getting tired of proposing this and that -- without any interest or responses. I'm mostly speaking to those who are not necessarily members of this forum, but who are best qualified to discuss the subjects I agonize over. Why is this so hard? One more thing. When we chose to come here -- what was our situation at that time? Do you really wish to go back to whatever it was that we came from? Are a lot of us on the verge of jumping out of the frying pan, and into the fire -- from whence there is no return?
"I Was a Good God!!!"
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1. Boellmann https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueU4CDjn3v0
2. Saint Saens https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pny-Ily4SbE&feature=related
3. Mulet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq8i69-L-Fs&feature=related
4. Dupre https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOnr5uhoPlE&feature=related
5. Dupre https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRcMtB27z7E&feature=related
6. Dupre https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxBjqrPAUg8&feature=related
7. Dupre https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mHOfP4MEfc&feature=related
8. Durufle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5S1RiSOPnY&feature=related
9. Bach https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD614SYKAgQ&feature=related
10. Widor https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtA_6lIhKWY
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I continue to like a lot of what I've idealistically posted throughout this thread -- yet I know that the real-world realities would not be neat and clean. I hate to say it, but what if the preliminary implementation of a New Solar System would have to be the Illusion of Solar System Governance -- sort of like the United States of America being an Illusion of Democracy? Too much could go wrong, don't you think? Can you even begin to imagine the fighting connected with a New Solar System? Should we initially aim for a kinder, gentler, and more ethical Secret Government -- combined with Baby-Steps Toward a Fully Operational United States of the Solar System? I fear that the sudden and stupid implementation of a New Solar System might precipitate the End of Us All. I guess my plans are simply to keep this thread going until they Come to Take Me Away. A book would probably spoil all the fun -- and hasten my demise -- which seems imminent anyway. I'll have to read 'Ender's Game'. Right now, I'm thinking I'll just keep doing what I'm doing -- with or without conversation. I might do some private writing, but probably not for publication. I don't know what I'm doing -- with subjects that are too hot to handle. I guess I'm trying to live in an idealistic secret side of the solar system -- without actually being a part of what is probably no fun at all -- once the novelty wears off. We seem to want what we can't have -- and then if we finally get it -- we find out the hard way that it's not the wonderful experience we expected. I'm sort of preparing for a long, hard winter (figuratively speaking). I probably need to learn to research without moving my lips, and without posting on the internet. If I actually got a book published (with content resembling my posts in the Mists), I doubt that Scotland Yard could protect me. I wish I were kidding. I think this thread makes a splendid Base Camp and Boot Camp for Solar System Governance Studies -- yet I'm sure that it is fatally flawed. This is only the beginning. I am painfully aware of a lot of my flaws -- personally and conceptually. I think there is some merit to Thrashing in Public -- but I wish I weren't the one doing the thrashing. A devoted and diligent student of this thread could learn a helluva lot from it. I've been rather brazen regarding my treatment of 'God' -- but once again this is intended to make all of us think. I Don't Know Squat about 'God'. We Don't Have a Monopoly on 'God'. Does 'God' Have a Monopoly on Us? You wouldn't believe who I heard say "If I Can't Have Them -- Nobody Can!!"??? Is someone still saying those very same words?
I don't have 'God' all figured out. I haven't even figured-out the people I meet and know. I spoke with a young physicist-philosopher who seemed way too smart and restrained. They remain a mystery to me. I recently spoke with yet another somewhat mysterious individual, who seemed to know way too much, and who seemed to be way too composed. I enjoyed talking with them -- yet I kept wondering 'Who am I really talking to?' We probably talked for an hour and a half. I've spoken with them before, but never in such depth. I feel as if I might've spoken with them on several occasions -- throughout my life -- but then I seem to be a bit unbalanced these days -- as I try to help transform Prison Planet Purgatory into Planet Paradise. I wish to make it very clear that each state aka country would be able to retain their culture and customs. The idea is to NOT destroy ourselves -- and to NOT be destroyed by ET. The Chinese should NOT feel threatened by a hypothetical United States of the Solar System. The concept is NOT 'United States Rule'. I deeply fear that my ideas might be used in some very evil and destructive ways. Anything can be used in a responsible or an irresponsible manner -- including My Tripe. Just remember -- This Thread is Merely Foreplay for What's Coming. Think of ways to transform most of the militaries of the world into non-lethal and non-destructive police forces. Think of ways to take the profit out of war. Think of ways to transition the medical facilities of the world into Prevention Centers. Think of ways to take the profit out of the drugs and surgery acute-care medical industrial complex. Think of ways to make Prevention Highly-Profitable. Think of ways to make the Solar System Space Program accessible to literally millions of properly qualified general public participants. Think of ways to make sure that technology is truly in the best interest of everyone. Think of ways to make sure that we don't bury ourselves with the technology we dig.
I don't have 'God' all figured out. I haven't even figured-out the people I meet and know. I spoke with a young physicist-philosopher who seemed way too smart and restrained. They remain a mystery to me. I recently spoke with yet another somewhat mysterious individual, who seemed to know way too much, and who seemed to be way too composed. I enjoyed talking with them -- yet I kept wondering 'Who am I really talking to?' We probably talked for an hour and a half. I've spoken with them before, but never in such depth. I feel as if I might've spoken with them on several occasions -- throughout my life -- but then I seem to be a bit unbalanced these days -- as I try to help transform Prison Planet Purgatory into Planet Paradise. I wish to make it very clear that each state aka country would be able to retain their culture and customs. The idea is to NOT destroy ourselves -- and to NOT be destroyed by ET. The Chinese should NOT feel threatened by a hypothetical United States of the Solar System. The concept is NOT 'United States Rule'. I deeply fear that my ideas might be used in some very evil and destructive ways. Anything can be used in a responsible or an irresponsible manner -- including My Tripe. Just remember -- This Thread is Merely Foreplay for What's Coming. Think of ways to transform most of the militaries of the world into non-lethal and non-destructive police forces. Think of ways to take the profit out of war. Think of ways to transition the medical facilities of the world into Prevention Centers. Think of ways to take the profit out of the drugs and surgery acute-care medical industrial complex. Think of ways to make Prevention Highly-Profitable. Think of ways to make the Solar System Space Program accessible to literally millions of properly qualified general public participants. Think of ways to make sure that technology is truly in the best interest of everyone. Think of ways to make sure that we don't bury ourselves with the technology we dig.
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For a real theological educational experience, just let all 14 parts autoplay. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-bzfWo32KM&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL72D0B5BB574137E3 I don't necessarily endorse everyone or everything in these videos, but viewing them might help you to understand some of the subjects I touch upon. I grew-up as a Seventh-day Adventist, but I haven't attended services regularly for years. I don't attend any church presently. I guess I've exposed myself to various viewpoints and environments throughout the years, to try to think outside of the box, and not out of rebellion against anyone or anything. Please keep Responsibility, Freedom, the Character of God, the Kingdom of God, and the Sovereignty of God in mind as you view these video clips. Also, think about everything I have posted throughout this thread. This is deeper and more difficult than you might think. But then again, things are a bit more difficult for me than for most. It's not easy being Insane, Light in the Head, Not Vibrating Fast Enough, Not Giving a Damn, Living in Sub-Prime Conditions (sort of like Michelangelo and Hitler!), Full of Demons, and Being a Completely Ignorant Fool with a Rebellious Spirit. I've even been called "Satan". Reading through the following linked thread is probably required reading, in order to properly understand what I'm trying to communicate regarding theology. http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t4173-essential-minimalist-traditionalist-theology At this point, I feel as though I am in conflict with just about everyone. I'm feeling no love or support. Time is running out folks. I'm trying to help, but my internet activities seem to be falling on deaf or hostile ears. No one has provided a proper critique of this thread, or offered a substantive alternative to the prinicples and concepts presented. I know that some of you know a helluva lot, but for some unknown reason there seems to be some sort of a gag-order. What I'd like to know is 'Who Issued the Gag-Order -- and Why?' I won't hold my breath, waiting for responses. Some of you need to properly deal with all of this -- before it's too late -- if it's not already too late. It might be later than all of us think. I think I'll buy some colloidal-silver -- just in case. Nuff said.
I'm increasingly thinking in terms of a mildly-malevolent historical secret-government, which became more radical in the 20th century, and which now is in the process of unraveling. Beware of poison-pills and a scorched-earth policy. I'm also increasingly thinking in terms of a highly problematic universe, going back billions, or even trillions, of years. I'm increasingly thinking that we cannot properly understand our current nightmare, without understanding our ancient nightmare. But this might be too much for most of us to bear. Even Jesus said, "I have many things to tell you -- but you can't bear them." What if there is something worse than the New World Order, waiting in the wings? I have become very suspicious and pessimistic about a lot of things. I feel as if I am in profound conflict with Myself, Divinity, and Humanity -- as I seek an idealistic New Solar System in a Brave New Universe. I tend to think things are going to get significantly worse before they get better -- if they get better. Many of us are probably 'Good' because we have lacked the 'Opportunity' to be 'Bad'. In other lifetimes, some of the do-gooders might've been real-mothers! None is righteous. No, not one. What sort of beings might we encounter in the near-future? How might God relate to all of this? Can the Sovereignty of God coexist with Human Responsible-Freedom? Can the Royal-Model of Governance coexist with the Servant-Model of Governance? Is Absolute-Obedience and 'Just Following Orders' a Recipe for Disaster? But if the Commandments of God are interpreted merely as 'Suggestions' is this not also a Recipe for Disaster? Is there a Happy Medium in the house? This is enough to drive a man to drink!! What Would Bill Cooper Say? (WWBCS?) What Would Loki Do? (WWLD?) Here is another theologian who I have listened to rather closely, including in his office. Dr. Alden Thompson. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlcDUqOXY9w You will gain a real treat if you read his paper 'From Sinai to Golgotha' http://www.sdanet.org/atissue/white/alden/ or his book 'Who's Afraid of the Old Testament God?' Now I'm going to listen to another exciting Sherry Shriner show at www.thewatcherfiles.com Once again, this is NOT an endorsement. I am simply attempting to get used to all of the upsetting stuff on the internet -- and I like listening to Sherri's show because it forces me to think about things I'd rather not think about. She also seems to have an insider perspective. I'm still not sold on the orgone -- but I haven't really studied the subject. I've been thinking about researching Wilhelm Reich -- for a variety of reasons -- including the orgone issue. Supposedly the orgone burns Aliens, and causes UFO's to crash. I don't know if this is the case or not -- but I'm still trying to be somewhat neutral as I continue to passively shine the bright-lights on the subjects of Aliens and UFO's.
What would be the relationship between a United States of the Solar System, the hypothetical Orion-Sirius-Egyptian-Roman Empire, and the hypothetical Reincarnating Osiris-Isis-Horus-Set Royal Family? What about Dracs and Greys? Would the Galactic Powers That Be declare war on a newly established United States of the Solar System? Will the Dracs declare war on me for posting this??? Will I experience a Drac-Attack??? Watch this first. (notice the fine-print!) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oU_BBIUTVdg Then imagine the Dracs emerging from the spaceship, and doing the 'Dracarena'!
I'm increasingly thinking in terms of a mildly-malevolent historical secret-government, which became more radical in the 20th century, and which now is in the process of unraveling. Beware of poison-pills and a scorched-earth policy. I'm also increasingly thinking in terms of a highly problematic universe, going back billions, or even trillions, of years. I'm increasingly thinking that we cannot properly understand our current nightmare, without understanding our ancient nightmare. But this might be too much for most of us to bear. Even Jesus said, "I have many things to tell you -- but you can't bear them." What if there is something worse than the New World Order, waiting in the wings? I have become very suspicious and pessimistic about a lot of things. I feel as if I am in profound conflict with Myself, Divinity, and Humanity -- as I seek an idealistic New Solar System in a Brave New Universe. I tend to think things are going to get significantly worse before they get better -- if they get better. Many of us are probably 'Good' because we have lacked the 'Opportunity' to be 'Bad'. In other lifetimes, some of the do-gooders might've been real-mothers! None is righteous. No, not one. What sort of beings might we encounter in the near-future? How might God relate to all of this? Can the Sovereignty of God coexist with Human Responsible-Freedom? Can the Royal-Model of Governance coexist with the Servant-Model of Governance? Is Absolute-Obedience and 'Just Following Orders' a Recipe for Disaster? But if the Commandments of God are interpreted merely as 'Suggestions' is this not also a Recipe for Disaster? Is there a Happy Medium in the house? This is enough to drive a man to drink!! What Would Bill Cooper Say? (WWBCS?) What Would Loki Do? (WWLD?) Here is another theologian who I have listened to rather closely, including in his office. Dr. Alden Thompson. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlcDUqOXY9w You will gain a real treat if you read his paper 'From Sinai to Golgotha' http://www.sdanet.org/atissue/white/alden/ or his book 'Who's Afraid of the Old Testament God?' Now I'm going to listen to another exciting Sherry Shriner show at www.thewatcherfiles.com Once again, this is NOT an endorsement. I am simply attempting to get used to all of the upsetting stuff on the internet -- and I like listening to Sherri's show because it forces me to think about things I'd rather not think about. She also seems to have an insider perspective. I'm still not sold on the orgone -- but I haven't really studied the subject. I've been thinking about researching Wilhelm Reich -- for a variety of reasons -- including the orgone issue. Supposedly the orgone burns Aliens, and causes UFO's to crash. I don't know if this is the case or not -- but I'm still trying to be somewhat neutral as I continue to passively shine the bright-lights on the subjects of Aliens and UFO's.
What would be the relationship between a United States of the Solar System, the hypothetical Orion-Sirius-Egyptian-Roman Empire, and the hypothetical Reincarnating Osiris-Isis-Horus-Set Royal Family? What about Dracs and Greys? Would the Galactic Powers That Be declare war on a newly established United States of the Solar System? Will the Dracs declare war on me for posting this??? Will I experience a Drac-Attack??? Watch this first. (notice the fine-print!) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oU_BBIUTVdg Then imagine the Dracs emerging from the spaceship, and doing the 'Dracarena'!
Listen to the 'Dracarena' while watching the Dracs Dance!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfhTKx43ezU "Hey Dracarena!!!"
"Once You've Had Drac -- You Never Go Back!!!"
I am bravely open-minded -- yet I retain a healthy level of reverent fear and trembling. Some time ago, I suggested the possibility that Nibiru (if it existed) might take up a relatively circular orbit, safely beyond the orbit of Pluto. What if this has indeed occurred??!! But what if Nibiru is filled with Giants who hate Earth-Humans? I also suggested the possibility that Nibiru might become a part of the hypothetical United States of the Solar System -- and that they might assist us in defending the solar system from hypothetical enemies. Is there any sense to this sort of thing? Once again, I have no idea what we're really dealing with. I get the feeling that those who really know, won't be talking to people like me anytime soon -- so the galactic guessing game continues. One more thing -- Analyze This:"Once You've Had Drac -- You Never Go Back!!!"
We Are You wrote:PEACE:
http://gnosticteachings.org/books-by-samael-aun-weor/fundamentals-of-gnostic-education/992-peace.html
http://gnosticteachings.org/books-by-samael-aun-weor/fundamentals-of-gnostic-education/980-what-to-think-how-to-think.html
Fundamentals of Gnostic Education, a book by Samael Aun Weor
Fundamentals of Gnostic Education Gnosis, the consciousness, and Learning How to Think.
"The fundamental education is the science of the consciousness; it is the science that allows us to discover our relationship with human beings, nature, and all things." - Samael Aun Weor
In this amazing and deeply moving analysis of the problems that exist in modern systems of education, Samael Aun Weor demonstrates with superior logic and tremendous love how vital it is for people to learn not "what to think, but HOW to think." By awakening the consciousness and developing the heart and mind in equilibrium comes the potential to alter the painful realities that humanity is suffering within every day. Perhaps his most quotable book, it is an absolute necessity for all students of the Gnostic tradition, and is especially beneficial for instructors and parents.
"What is the value of studying law and becoming lawyers if we perpetuate fights? What is the value of accumulating much knowledge within our mind if we continue to be confused? What is the value of technical and industrial skills if we use them for the destruction of our fellowmen? It is worthless to receive instruction, to attend classes, to study, if in the process of our daily living we are miserably destroying one another. Indeed, the true objective of a fundamental education must be to create true men and women, who—because of their psychological integration—are cognizant and intelligent." - Samael Aun Weor
The Revolution of the Dialectic, a book by Samael Aun Weor
Religious Principles
Written by Samael Aun Weor
http://gnosticteachings.org/books-by-samael-aun-weor/the-revolution-of-the-dialectic/449-religious-principles.html
All religions are precious stones strung on the golden thread of Divinity.
All religions conserve the eternal values. False religions do not exist.
All religions are necessary; all religions fulfill their mission in life.
It is absurd to state that our neighbor’s religion is useless and that only ours is authentic. If the neighbor’s religion is not good then my religion is not good either because the values are always the same.
It is stupid to state that the religion of the indigenous tribes of America is idolatry because they too have the right to say that our religion is idolatry. If we laugh at them, they can also laugh at us. If we say that they adore or that they adored idols, then they too can say that we adore idols.
We cannot discredit the religion of others without discrediting ours as well because the principles are always the same. All religions have the same principles.
Under the sun, every religion is born, grows, develops, multiplies into many sects, and dies. This is how it has always been and will always be.
Religious principles never die. The religious forms can die, but the religious principles, in other words, the eternal values, can never die. They continue; they are re-dressed with new forms.
Religion is inherent to life in the same manner that humidity is to water.
There are profoundly religious people who do not belong to any religious form.
People without religion are conservative and reactionary by nature. Only religious people can achieve the revolution of the dialectic.
There is no reason that justifies religious wars like those that have occurred in Ireland. It is absurd to classify others as unfaithful, heretics, or pagans because of the simple fact that they do not belong to our religion.
The sorcerer, who in the heart of the African jungles exercises his priesthood before the tribe of cannibals, as well as the aristocratic Christian archbishop who officiates in the metropolitan cathedrals of London, Paris, or Rome, rest on the same principles. The only thing that varies is the structure of their religion.
Jesus, the Divine Rabbi of Galilee, taught all human beings the path of the Truth and the revolution of the dialectic.
The Truth was made flesh within Jesus. The Truth will become flesh within every human being who achieves Integral Revolution.
If we study religions, if we perform a comparative study of religions, we will then find the worship of Christ within all of them. The only thing that varies is the name given to Christ.
The Divine Rabbi of Galilee has the same attributes as Zeus, Apollo, Krishna, Quetzalcoatl, Lao-Tse, Fu-Xi the Chinese Christ, Buddha, etc.
One remains astonished when one carries out a comparative study of religions because all of these sacred religious personages that personify Christ are born on the 24th of December at 12 o’clock midnight.
All of these sacred personages are children of immaculate conceptions. All of them are born by the deed and grace of the Holy Spirit. All of them are born from Virgins who are immaculate before childbirth, within childbirth, and after childbirth.
The poor and unknown Hebrew woman Mary, mother of the adorable Savior Jesus the Christ, received the same attributes and cosmic powers as that of the Goddess Isis, Juno, Demeter, Ceres, Vesta, Maia, Adonia, Insobertha, Rea, Cybele, Tonantzin, etc.
All of these feminine deities always represent the Divine Mother, the Eternal Cosmic Feminine Principle.
Christ is always the child of the Divine Mother. Worship of the Divine Mother is rendered by all the holy religions.
Mary is fecundated by the Holy Spirit. Tradition narrates that the Third Logos in the shape of a dove, fecundated the immaculate womb of Mary.
The dove is always a phallic symbol. Let us remember Peristhera, nymph of the court of Venus, who was transformed into a dove by love.
Among the Chinese, the Christ is Fu-Xi, the Chinese Christ who is miraculously born by the action and grace of the Holy Spirit: While a virgin named Hoa-Se walked on the river bank, she placed her foot on the footstep of the Great Man. Immediately she was affected emotionally seeing herself surrounded by a marvelous splendor and her womb became with child. After twelve years had gone by, on the fourth day of the tenth Moon, at midnight, Fu-Xi was born. He was named Fu-Xi in the memory of the river on whose river bank he was conceived.
In Ancient Mexico, Christ is Quetzalcoatl, the Messiah and transformer of the Toltecs: One day, while Chimalmat was alone with her two sisters, a messenger from heaven appeared to her. Upon seeing him the frightened sisters died. When Chimalmat heard from the angel’s mouth that she would conceive a boy, the conception of Quetzalcoatl (the Mexican Christ) took place instantly, even though Chimalmat had not been with a male.
Among the Japanese, the Christ is Amida, who by praying for all sinners intercedes before the Supreme Goddess Ten-Sic-Dai-Tain. Amida, the Japanese Christ of the Shinto Religion, is the one who has the powers to open the doors of Gokuraku - Paradise.
The German Eddas mention the Khristos, the God of their theogony, who similarly to Jesus was born on the 24th of December at midnight; the same occured with Odin, Wotan, and Belen.
When one studies the Gospel of Krishna the Hindu Christ, one is astonished upon discovering the same Gospel of Jesus. However, Krishna was born many centuries before Jesus.
Devaki, the Hindu virgin, conceived Krishna by the action and grace of the Holy Spirit. The child-God Krishna was transported to the stable of Nanden and the gods and angels came to adore him. The life, passion, and death of Krishna are similar to that of Jesus.
It is worthwhile to study all religions. The comparative study of religions leads one to comprehend that all religions conserve the eternal values, that no religion is false, that all are true.
All religions talk about the soul, about Heaven, Hell, etc. The principles are always the same.
The Averno was the Hell among the Romans. The Tartarus was the Hell among the Greeks. The Avitchi is Hell among the Hindus, etc.
The Olympus was Heaven among the Romans and Greeks. Each religion has its Heaven.
When the religion of the Romans terminated, when it degenerated, the priests then became soothsayers, jugglers, etc. Nonetheless, the eternal principles did not die. Those principles were dressed with the new religious form of Christianity.
The pagan priests, denominated Augur, Druid, Flamen, Hierophant, Dionysus and Sacrificer, were re-baptized in Christianity with the sacred titles of Clergy, Pastors, Prelates, Pope, Annointed, Abbot, Theologian, etc.
The Sibyls, Vestals, Druidesses, Popesses, Deaconesses, Menades, Pythonesses, etc. in Christianity were denominated as Novices, Abbesses, Canonesses, Superior Prelates, Reverends, Sisters, and Nuns.
The Gods, Demigods, Titans, Goddesses, Sylphids, Cyclops, and Messengers of the gods of ancient religions were re-baptized with the names of Angels, Archangels, Seraphim, Powers, Virtues, Thrones, etc.
If the gods were adored in antiquity, they are also adored now, except with different names.
Religious forms change according to the historical times and the races. Each race needs its special religious form.
People need religion. People without religion are in fact totally barbarian, cruel, and pitiless.
-- This chapter is from Revolution of the Dialectic (1983) by Samael Aun Weor.
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What if a Sovereign God commanded that a highly refined version of the United States of the Solar System be implemented in this particular solar system -- and expected Absolute Obedience? Would this be a harmonization of 'Absolute Obedience to a Sovereign God' with 'Namaste-Constitutional Responsible-Freedom'? This continues to be VERY tricky territory for me -- because I don't know the true story of our past -- and I don't know the true state of affairs which exists presently. I suspect that it's REALLY bad -- but I don't know the details. When the previously mentioned Ancient Egyptian Deity told me that I was lucky to be alive -- I tended to believe that. In retrospect, I'm not sure if they were referring to the human race, or to me personally. One more time -- I feel as if I am in conflict with Myself, Humanity, and Divinity -- and it doesn't feel good, believe me. I think this thing is a REALLY big mess. I'm thinking of continuing my little fantasy book project -- but I doubt that it will ever be published. It will probably just be my little secret. So really, at this point, it's probably going to get a helluva lot more interesting! You Spying Dragons should cover your eyes! I've heard about you -- and I'm sorry if any of you were harmed. You know what I'm talking about. I will continue to defend Male and Female Human Physicality combined with Responsible Freedom -- unless I am presented with overwhelming evidence and logic regarding why this should NOT be pursued any further. I'm usually a reasonable man -- at least in this incarnation. I continue to be VERY worried about previous incarnations -- especially if there is no Galactic Statute of Limitations. For all I know, I could've been Adolph Hitler -- or at least someone closely involved with this notorious historical figure. On the other hand, what if there is an idealistic aspect of Germany in the 1930's which is not presented to the general public? I continue to be puzzled by the contrast of the 30's with the 40's. I can sort of see the point of the 30's -- but the 40's are completely sinister, dark, and insane. Also, the Post WWII Underground Nazi Phenomenon seems to be very sinister, dark, and insane.
My point is, I don't think we know the whole story at all -- and if we did know it -- all hell would probably break loose throughout the world. Just a guess. Once again, I'm thinking that the Truth, the Whole Truth, and Nothing But the Truth -- About Life, the Universe, and Everything -- Is Very Sinister, Dark, and Insane. It's probably more than anyone can handle. Probably everyone would go completely insane if they learned the truth all at once -- and I wish I were kidding. A controlled-release of esoteric information is probably a good thing. I simply wish for things to be better -- and I am responsibly open-minded regarding how this might be facilitated. But really, someone needs to start talking to me. In the meantime, perhaps I should continue reading 'The Holy Tablets'. I had to stop a while back. It was too disorienting for me. Plus, I had no idea whether any of it was true or not. I presently consider it to be one more Clue-Collection -- and nothing more. But who knows? The Shadow Knows! The Shadow Government Knows! Unfortunately, they never invite me to their secret meetings. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iui88t-Cy6E&feature=related Just to be clear, a lot of the secret stuff seems really cool -- yet I keep sensing and seeing evil lurking in the shadows. A thousand really, really bright and ethical people -- meeting openly, yet secretly -- regarding solar system governance -- might be ideal. The 10,000 representative United States of the Solar System might be ideal. A combination of the two might be ideal. How would one properly guide and referee such an experiment? Things could get out of control -- very, very quickly -- with devastating consequences. I remain conflicted regarding the proper roles of openness and secrecy. Both can be beneficial -- and both can be problematic. It sort of depends on who is running the show -- and who they have working with them. I wonder what Vladamir Putin would be like to work with? He seems really tough, smart, and straightforward. He seems to be intolerant of stupidity -- which is probably a good thing. His KGB background is probably a mixed-bag -- if you know what I mean...
I think there are good and bad people in all factions and in all locations. I have many fond memories of walking throughout a particular CBS location, meeting very 'cool' people, and even swimming in a celebrity swimming-pool at their mansion. I thought nothing of it at the time. That was a long time ago. It almost seems like another life. Perhaps I've already been soul-scalped -- or some damn thing. Anyway, I would be very wary of 'progress' and 'breakthroughs'. There are always groups behind the groups. I got that one from 'Nikita'. Factions have Factions. Ashes to Ashes. Dust to Dust. I really am cracking up. Things are so bad that I'm on the verge of cracking-down. It's going to take a helluva lot to convince me that 'the major problems have been solved ' and that 'everything will be fine'. I think I'll be sweating and shaking in front of a computer-monitor for the rest of my lives -- and I wish I were kidding. Some of the pictures (near the bottom of this post) reminded me of when I toured a North American Rockwell facility -- and went aboard a mockup of the Space Shuttle. That was cool! Sometimes I just want to forget the crazy internet stuff -- and just read the 'Federalist Papers', 'The Desire of Ages' (but no other E.G.W. books -- and not attend the S.D.A. church), the 1928 'Book of Common Prayer' (but not attend Episcopal or Anglican services) -- while listening to the Complete Works of J.S. Bach -- imagining a United States of the Solar System based in England -- with only the best aspects of the Monarchy, the Papacy, the United States, and the Orion-Sirius-Egyptian-Roman Empire Backed Reincarnating Osiris-Isis-Horus-Set Royal Family. That would be quite enough to keep me busy -- wouldn't you say??? Care to join me??? I didn't think so. BTW -- I keep thinking about 'The Changeling' in connection with all of this. Might this be related to 'Rule by Secrecy' and 'The Biggest Secret'? OK guys. I get the point. You saw what I typed. Pass it on to the appropriate people (and other than people). Then perhaps 'my people' can meet with your 'other than people' -- and we can cut a deal. Now I'm going for a walk.
Here is another TREEE video. I think I might've met TREEE -- but not in this form. I know -- I'm crazy. Notice 'helenwhite666'. For a 'meth-head' TREEE knows a helluva lot. Does anyone know what 'TREEE' is presently doing? I'm afraid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOVin9pz3Q8&feature=related Here's TREEE in a slightly different form. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PUPD0yE_YE&feature=related I think I might've seen TREEE in both male and female 'Dogma' forms. The shapeshifting and/or soul-transference was sort of cool -- as was some telekinesis -- but I don't do supernatural magic tricks. I'm not that kind of guy. Here's another video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=LCmQBA6bzdk One TREEE -- Many Branches? Damned if I know -- but appearances can be deceptive. I don't want things to be creepy. Why do things have to be creepy? I simply desire a Perfected Humanity -- Living in a Perfected Solar System. I don't wish to be isolationist, in relation to the rest of the universe -- but first we need to take care of business in this solar system -- and then deal fairly and rationally with all beings, races, and civilizations -- throughout the universe. I'd really prefer that all of this be as boring and uneventful as possible. "Save the Drama for Your Mamma".
Cleaning this world up might be a lot like playing Whack-a-Mole. You whack one problem -- and another one pops up. I sometimes wonder if this Experiment in Male and Female Human Physicality Combined with Responsible Freedom -- will be allowed to continue with only the Most Responsible Souls. Perhaps most souls will end-up back as Hermaphrodite Reptilians in Absolute Obedience to a Reptilian Queen. Just speculation -- and mind you -- I don't think such a physical and political system is necessarily wrong in all cases. Perhaps that's what works best for most souls throughout the universe. I don't know. Perhaps only a few souls are responsibly ready for the stress and strain of life as we know it, here on this Purgatory Planet called "Earth". Perhaps this experiment is about to enter upon a Legitimate and Authorized "Phase II". I keep feeling as though "Phase I" has been somewhat renegade and contentious. More speculation. In any case, I don't think we're going to have to wait long to find out. I'm afraid. I really am. I'm just speculating about a lot of things -- including the alleged 'Reptilian and Grey' phenomenon. I remain 'open' to everyone and everything -- but I Trust No One -- not even God. My current theory is that most or all humanoid beings possess the same kind of soul. I am uncertain regarding the nature of said soul -- but I'm leaning toward the theory that all humanoid souls are some sort of reptilian soul. I have no idea if this is really the case -- but I am attempting to think way outside of the box -- in an attempt to consider ALL possibilities regarding the most important subjects imaginable. Unfortunately, you don't make many friends doing things this way. I continue to hear horror stories concerning humans, reptilians, and greys. I think this universe might be quite the nasty place. I once read a book titled 'The Friendly Stars'. The stars might be friendly, but the beings who live on the planets which orbit these friendly stars might be just the opposite of friendly (especially toward human beings). If human beings are a Recent Subset of an Ancient Reptilian Race -- the hostility might be understandable and even expected. Perhaps a Peaceful Segregation is the best that can be expected for the next few million years. Universe Administration might have Everything to do with Solar System Administration. My proposed United States of the Solar System might be anathema and damnable heresy of a most pestilential nature -- to a Universal Theocratic Church -- which might be Predominantly Reptilian in nature. Just more speculation, mind you. This thread contains a very high level of speculation and science-fiction -- so don't take it too seriously. On the other hand -- I really am afraid -- and perhaps for good reason -- or should I say 'for bad reason'.
I might be more sinful and irresponsible than I think. Mea Culpa. Kyrie Eleison. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD614SYKAgQ&feature=related What if the 'Standard Mass' were the 'Bach B-Minor Mass'? The combination of the Mass (especially if it is interpreted as a remembrance, rather than an ongoing unbloody human sacrifice), J.S. Bach, and Notre Dame de Paris -- complete with orchestra and choir -- is really cool. Perhaps the clergy and congregation might all be part of the choir -- with the clergy serving as the soloists! That would get most of the present clergy fired -- wouldn't you say??!! Might this constitute the 'Modified Latin Mass' I referred to early on in my '9.5 Theses'? What would the Vatican, Anglicans, Episcopalians, Lutherans, Presbyterians, Adventists, Orthodox, and Rabbis say? How might this fly in Russia, China, and India? I love cathedrals -- but I keep hearing horror stories about human sacrifices occurring behind locked cathedral doors, and in cathedral basements. We Need to Get to the Bottom and Top of What the Hell is Going On Regarding HUMAN SACRIFICE!!! I Want All Human Sacrifices to Cease Immediately and Permanently!!! And that includes Bohemian Grove. Understood???
Why don't we have a Visible God with a Simple and Straightforward Bible -- containing absolutely no BS or contradictions? Why are we seemingly ruled by secrecy? Has anyone read 'The Gods of Eden' by William Bramley, 'Rule by Secrecy' by Jim Marrs, and 'The Great Controversy' by Ellen White? Dealing with theology in a deep and penetrating manner is like walking through quicksand, swimming with Piranha, playing with burning magnesium, etc, etc, etc. Sure, the preachers lie to their congregations -- but what the hell are they supposed to do? If they tell the truth -- all hell breaks loose -- and they end up with a split church and no job. That's fine if you don't mind scrubbing toilets -- and I'm not joking. You see what I've been reduced to within this website. I really just have to talk to myself in fantasyland -- except that what I'm dealing with is Deadly Serious -- yet very, very few wish to talk to me. I've gotten a significant amount of hostility and condescension during my internet adventures. I no longer post on YouTube. I just post here in the Mists -- and I've promised 'No Surprises'. I've been speculating about a hypothetical Earth-Human Island in a Universal Reptilian Theocracy -- wherein Male and Female Human Physicality and Responsible Freedom are considered to be heresy. Are the Ten Commandments the Law of God in a Universal Reptilian Theocracy? If so, is it easier for Reptilians to obey the Law of God, than it is for Earth Human Beings? I keep sensing a God the Father v God the Son -- Reptilian v Human Galactic Jihad -- with the Queen of Heaven and the God of This World taking advantage of the situation. I am VERY, VERY sorry if I have this wrong. Remember, my tripe is mostly speculative science fiction -- which I only post on this little forum, where I am mostly ignored. I have done some role-playing regarding major and minor deities -- and it has scared the hell out of me. I'm not crazy -- but it's probably a miracle that I'm not in a mental institution by now. I'm half-joking and half-serious when I speak of the insanity thing. I think the true theological realities are rather deep, disorienting, and upsetting. I think this is why a lot of people become atheists. They simply do not, or cannot, deal with the madness. It's easier to live in denial. That's why Egyptians are so happy -- because they Live in de Nile.
I don't wish to hate anyone or any race -- ever. However, I'm presently upset with just about everything and everyone -- including myself. I wonder if 'God' (One who bodily appears to everyone) would have to change bodies when entering and leaving this solar system -- and completely change their approach, demeanor, and attitude when arriving and departing 'our' solar system? Once again, should this solar system be completely human -- at least regarding 'permanent residents'? Might there be some sort of a 'student exchange program' between this solar system and other solar systems? What about a 'galactic work-study program'? One more thing. What if there were a simple 5% Solar System Consumption Tax to support the United States of the Solar System? What if there were a 50% income tax for annual incomes exceeding One Million U.S. Dollars -- which would go directly to randomly selected worthy charities? Perhaps this is going too far. I don't know. I simply wish to eliminate destitute-poverty and the non-compassionate use of accumulated wealth. Is this unreasonable and irresponsible? I'm sensing that just about everyone has written me off, shut me out, and given me the kiss of death. I'm sensing absolutely no support whatsoever. This venture is not going well at all. What the hell do you want from me? People I see every day, seem to be very happy without considering any of this save the world stuff. They're laughing and screwing each other like rabbits -- while I grapple with some very dark subjects -- and sleep by myself. I'm getting really sick and tired of this. There is absolutely no reward for doing any of this. Just the opposite. The more I post -- the more I feel the universe despising me and wishing I were eternally dead. Perhaps all of you won't be disappointed. Unfortunately, I don't expect death to be a sweet release. Just the opposite.
Here is a refinement of something I previously posted. Consider reading 'The Federalist Papers', the 1928 'Book of Common Prayer', and 'The Desire of Ages' over and over and over again -- while listening to the Bach 'B-Minor Mass'. That's what I intend to do. I'm pretty much through trying to problem solve -- with no response or conversation. Do you really want war? I bring peace, rather than a sword -- but I have a feeling, that on a reincarnational basis -- I am one mean sonofabitch who you do NOT want to mess with. Perhaps I should start studying international banking, weapons systems, the art of kicking
@$$, etc, etc, etc. Is THAT what you want? If it is, I suspect that I can serve it to you in heaping portions. Do you feel lucky? Go ahead -- make my day. Perhaps everyone has had their chance -- and it's time to wrap things up. How many lifetimes do we need to get it right? Would we get it right with an infinite number of lifetimes? Would we ever learn? Most of us behave as if we haven't learned a fracking thing. Unfortunately, the Fracking Dracs don't seem to be helping matters much. Frankly, the whole fracking universe seems to be a fracking mess. I wish I could set everything straight -- but I seem to lack even the most simple self-governance skills. We are so screwed. But please -- show me my errors within this thread -- so I can correct them. Am I vibrating too slowly? Do you want some sugary Pleiadian talk, or positive affirmations? Do you desire a higher-critical theological discourse? The latest scandal? The latest doom and gloom? Porn? What the hell do you really want? Tell me what you want -- what you really, really want! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoaiWe-SNsM I made a completely ignorant fool out of myself at a 'Spice Girls' concert. It's all their fault. Blame them -- especially 'Space-Spice'.
I'm increasingly thinking of the 'Illuminati and Other Elites' as being 'Corrupted Errand Boys and Girls in the Middle of a Nasty Galactic Civil War'. They might ultimately answer to one or more very powerful Reptilian Queen(s). I have no idea what the real deal is regarding Solar System Governance, but I've been poking and prodding for at least a couple of years now -- with very mixed results. I'm in a rut right now, and I'm trying to move in a completely different direction -- so this post might be my last for a while. I've said that dozens of times. But I'm going to try harder than ever to stop. Will this be good or bad for the Illuminati? Perhaps they are breathing a collective sigh of relief!! As I try once more to say goodbye (at least for a while) -- I wish to restate my desire to achieve peaceful and ethical results. Regardless of the nature of our predicament -- I do NOT desire torture and extermination of any sort, and I especially do NOT desire the torture and extermination of the soul -- regardless of the realities of soul and physicality. I desire a peaceful and ethical world, solar system, galaxy, and universe -- but I am NOT a peace at any price type of person. I keep sensing an Impending Final Solution (complete with enslavement, torture, and extermination). I obviously think the world is in an abominable state. Things have seemingly been in a reprehensible condition for aeons. I continue to be a combination of Incurable Optimism and Unyielding Despair. My plans for the coming months are to simply research, write, and practice what I've been preaching. Once again, a lot of you know where I live and work. Some of you even know my phone-number. I'd be happy to talk -- anytime and anywhere -- 24/7 -- but I'm going to try to give it a rest within the 'Mists of Avalon'.
What if Lilith was a Reptilian Queen aka Archangel (Michael?) who was responsible for the 'creation' or 'genetic-engineering' of Male and Female Human Beings (with Interdimensional Reptilian Souls) aka 'Adam and Eve' -- and offered them Responsible Freedom rather than Absolute Obedience? What if 33.33% of the Interdimensional Reptilians aka Angels chose to leave their Hermaphrodite Reptilian Physicality and enter Male and Female Human Physicality? What if this was the 'Fall', the 'Original and Unpardonable Sin' -- and the cause of the 'War in Heaven'? What if the soul of Lilith later reincarnated as various key historical figures -- both male and female? What if two rival Archangels remained in Hermaphrodite Reptilian physicality -- and have been fighting against Humanity for a very long time? What if the Quest of the Historical Jesus leads all the way back to Lilith? What if Michael = Second in Command = Lilith = Enki = Lucifer = Hathor = Isis = Queen of Heaven = King David = Various Pharaohs = Jesus = Michelangelo = ???? (among others)? Don't crucify me for suggesting this. As you know, I am freely sharing my speculations with anyone who might be interested. I don't spread this sort of thing anywhere beyond this website. I'm toying with the concept of Three Key Reptilian Queens from Orion and/or Sirius -- fighting for power in this solar system -- and possibly beyond. I have absolutely no idea if this is true -- and I mean absolutely no disrespect to anyone or any belief system. I'm more conservative and more liberal than you can imagine. I haven't been in a mad rush to discover the truth. I could go about this quest in a much more efficient manner. I have chosen to go slow and informal -- for who knows what reasons. I know not what I do.
I have not, and will not, reject God -- but I will continue to ask hard questions. To not do so would be highly irresponsible in my view. Once again, I am NOT shaking my fist at God -- but I am shaking. What if we are really dealing with a monumental galactic power-struggle to control the Universal Church Theocracy? What if the Roman Catholic Church is the Local Branch of this hypothetical Universal Church Theocracy? What if the RCC is a punishing and controlling version of a very positive church-state model? We need to be VERY careful to NOT throw out the baby with the bathwater. As I poke and prod -- I continue to contemplate working with Idealized and Reformed versions of the Monarchy, Papacy, Illuminati, Nazis, Masons, Jesuits, et al. That might not be PC, but I don't really care. I'm trying to inch my way back to the 'safety' of the tree-trunk after being out on a very high and very thin limb for way too long. Some of my trials and tribulations have undoubtedly been self-generated tempests in teapots -- yet there seems to have been a very real and very frightening component to my struggle -- and this crisis (real or imagined) is ongoing. I think I'm going to watch a lot of BBC news -- just to attempt to reenter the 'real-world' -- instead of imagining that I'm in the middle of some sort of Galactic Final Jihad. I'm sorry for causing anyone any difficulties with my research and reasoning (or lack thereof). The problems I have encountered relative to how things really work in this neck of the woods have been truly disorienting, disillusioning, traumatizing, and humbling. I better understand how little I really understand. Thank-you for your patience with me as I neurotically pursued my solar system crusade to save us all from the infidels.
I knew someone who worked for one of the networks (but I won't say which one), and they sometimes jokingly referred to the particular location they worked in as 'The Snake-Pit'. And mind you, this was long before Alex Collier, David Icke, et al. I wonder if this were simply a figure of speech, or whether they knew decades ago what some of us seem to be discovering presently? As you know, my latest theory is that humanity is a recent (and possibly illegal) subset of an ancient reptilian race -- living on a Prison Planet in Rebellion. I have further speculated that humanity is animated by the same type of soul as are the hypothetical reptilian humanoid beings. In a sense, I'm OK dealing with other lifeforms throughout the universe -- but in another sense, I strongly object to what seems to be human-abuse within this particular solar system. It often seems as if we are being punished, taxed, and controlled by an other than human (and not of this world) civilization -- which seems to not like us one little bit. I'm hoping for an improved state of affairs in the near future. My self-important 'United States of the Solar System' thread has been my feeble attempt to achieve better results for all concerned. Unfortunately, without being on the inside, it's impossible for me to know what's really going on -- so I have decided to back-off, and mostly just watch the world through the eyes of those in countries outside of the United States, most notably England -- as I attempt to regain my sanity. I'm frankly intending to spend a lot of time watching the BBC News -- even though I live in the United States. All Roads Lead to Rome -- but Critical Nerve Center(s) might very well reside somewhere within England, the Moon, Sirius, and Orion. There is a new Vatican Archive Exhibition! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAao-fNIXDc This sort of thing brings tears to my eyes! I continue to think that we should study the Roman Empire and the Roman Catholic Church -- regardless of whether we believe in God and the Church -- or not. http://www.luxinarcana.org/en I keep thinking that I might have some sort of a Roman Empire and/or Roman Catholic Church reincarnational history -- and I keep thinking that someone knows what it might be -- but they're not talking to me. Not that I know of. An Ancient Egyptian Deity told me that I should do an FOIA inquiry -- but I never did. Ignorance is bliss. But then, why am I not happy? I need to stop. I'm trying to put the brakes on my speculation and posting. I've said way too much already. Namaste and Godspeed.
My point is, I don't think we know the whole story at all -- and if we did know it -- all hell would probably break loose throughout the world. Just a guess. Once again, I'm thinking that the Truth, the Whole Truth, and Nothing But the Truth -- About Life, the Universe, and Everything -- Is Very Sinister, Dark, and Insane. It's probably more than anyone can handle. Probably everyone would go completely insane if they learned the truth all at once -- and I wish I were kidding. A controlled-release of esoteric information is probably a good thing. I simply wish for things to be better -- and I am responsibly open-minded regarding how this might be facilitated. But really, someone needs to start talking to me. In the meantime, perhaps I should continue reading 'The Holy Tablets'. I had to stop a while back. It was too disorienting for me. Plus, I had no idea whether any of it was true or not. I presently consider it to be one more Clue-Collection -- and nothing more. But who knows? The Shadow Knows! The Shadow Government Knows! Unfortunately, they never invite me to their secret meetings. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iui88t-Cy6E&feature=related Just to be clear, a lot of the secret stuff seems really cool -- yet I keep sensing and seeing evil lurking in the shadows. A thousand really, really bright and ethical people -- meeting openly, yet secretly -- regarding solar system governance -- might be ideal. The 10,000 representative United States of the Solar System might be ideal. A combination of the two might be ideal. How would one properly guide and referee such an experiment? Things could get out of control -- very, very quickly -- with devastating consequences. I remain conflicted regarding the proper roles of openness and secrecy. Both can be beneficial -- and both can be problematic. It sort of depends on who is running the show -- and who they have working with them. I wonder what Vladamir Putin would be like to work with? He seems really tough, smart, and straightforward. He seems to be intolerant of stupidity -- which is probably a good thing. His KGB background is probably a mixed-bag -- if you know what I mean...
I think there are good and bad people in all factions and in all locations. I have many fond memories of walking throughout a particular CBS location, meeting very 'cool' people, and even swimming in a celebrity swimming-pool at their mansion. I thought nothing of it at the time. That was a long time ago. It almost seems like another life. Perhaps I've already been soul-scalped -- or some damn thing. Anyway, I would be very wary of 'progress' and 'breakthroughs'. There are always groups behind the groups. I got that one from 'Nikita'. Factions have Factions. Ashes to Ashes. Dust to Dust. I really am cracking up. Things are so bad that I'm on the verge of cracking-down. It's going to take a helluva lot to convince me that 'the major problems have been solved ' and that 'everything will be fine'. I think I'll be sweating and shaking in front of a computer-monitor for the rest of my lives -- and I wish I were kidding. Some of the pictures (near the bottom of this post) reminded me of when I toured a North American Rockwell facility -- and went aboard a mockup of the Space Shuttle. That was cool! Sometimes I just want to forget the crazy internet stuff -- and just read the 'Federalist Papers', 'The Desire of Ages' (but no other E.G.W. books -- and not attend the S.D.A. church), the 1928 'Book of Common Prayer' (but not attend Episcopal or Anglican services) -- while listening to the Complete Works of J.S. Bach -- imagining a United States of the Solar System based in England -- with only the best aspects of the Monarchy, the Papacy, the United States, and the Orion-Sirius-Egyptian-Roman Empire Backed Reincarnating Osiris-Isis-Horus-Set Royal Family. That would be quite enough to keep me busy -- wouldn't you say??? Care to join me??? I didn't think so. BTW -- I keep thinking about 'The Changeling' in connection with all of this. Might this be related to 'Rule by Secrecy' and 'The Biggest Secret'? OK guys. I get the point. You saw what I typed. Pass it on to the appropriate people (and other than people). Then perhaps 'my people' can meet with your 'other than people' -- and we can cut a deal. Now I'm going for a walk.
Here is another TREEE video. I think I might've met TREEE -- but not in this form. I know -- I'm crazy. Notice 'helenwhite666'. For a 'meth-head' TREEE knows a helluva lot. Does anyone know what 'TREEE' is presently doing? I'm afraid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOVin9pz3Q8&feature=related Here's TREEE in a slightly different form. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PUPD0yE_YE&feature=related I think I might've seen TREEE in both male and female 'Dogma' forms. The shapeshifting and/or soul-transference was sort of cool -- as was some telekinesis -- but I don't do supernatural magic tricks. I'm not that kind of guy. Here's another video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=LCmQBA6bzdk One TREEE -- Many Branches? Damned if I know -- but appearances can be deceptive. I don't want things to be creepy. Why do things have to be creepy? I simply desire a Perfected Humanity -- Living in a Perfected Solar System. I don't wish to be isolationist, in relation to the rest of the universe -- but first we need to take care of business in this solar system -- and then deal fairly and rationally with all beings, races, and civilizations -- throughout the universe. I'd really prefer that all of this be as boring and uneventful as possible. "Save the Drama for Your Mamma".
Cleaning this world up might be a lot like playing Whack-a-Mole. You whack one problem -- and another one pops up. I sometimes wonder if this Experiment in Male and Female Human Physicality Combined with Responsible Freedom -- will be allowed to continue with only the Most Responsible Souls. Perhaps most souls will end-up back as Hermaphrodite Reptilians in Absolute Obedience to a Reptilian Queen. Just speculation -- and mind you -- I don't think such a physical and political system is necessarily wrong in all cases. Perhaps that's what works best for most souls throughout the universe. I don't know. Perhaps only a few souls are responsibly ready for the stress and strain of life as we know it, here on this Purgatory Planet called "Earth". Perhaps this experiment is about to enter upon a Legitimate and Authorized "Phase II". I keep feeling as though "Phase I" has been somewhat renegade and contentious. More speculation. In any case, I don't think we're going to have to wait long to find out. I'm afraid. I really am. I'm just speculating about a lot of things -- including the alleged 'Reptilian and Grey' phenomenon. I remain 'open' to everyone and everything -- but I Trust No One -- not even God. My current theory is that most or all humanoid beings possess the same kind of soul. I am uncertain regarding the nature of said soul -- but I'm leaning toward the theory that all humanoid souls are some sort of reptilian soul. I have no idea if this is really the case -- but I am attempting to think way outside of the box -- in an attempt to consider ALL possibilities regarding the most important subjects imaginable. Unfortunately, you don't make many friends doing things this way. I continue to hear horror stories concerning humans, reptilians, and greys. I think this universe might be quite the nasty place. I once read a book titled 'The Friendly Stars'. The stars might be friendly, but the beings who live on the planets which orbit these friendly stars might be just the opposite of friendly (especially toward human beings). If human beings are a Recent Subset of an Ancient Reptilian Race -- the hostility might be understandable and even expected. Perhaps a Peaceful Segregation is the best that can be expected for the next few million years. Universe Administration might have Everything to do with Solar System Administration. My proposed United States of the Solar System might be anathema and damnable heresy of a most pestilential nature -- to a Universal Theocratic Church -- which might be Predominantly Reptilian in nature. Just more speculation, mind you. This thread contains a very high level of speculation and science-fiction -- so don't take it too seriously. On the other hand -- I really am afraid -- and perhaps for good reason -- or should I say 'for bad reason'.
I might be more sinful and irresponsible than I think. Mea Culpa. Kyrie Eleison. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD614SYKAgQ&feature=related What if the 'Standard Mass' were the 'Bach B-Minor Mass'? The combination of the Mass (especially if it is interpreted as a remembrance, rather than an ongoing unbloody human sacrifice), J.S. Bach, and Notre Dame de Paris -- complete with orchestra and choir -- is really cool. Perhaps the clergy and congregation might all be part of the choir -- with the clergy serving as the soloists! That would get most of the present clergy fired -- wouldn't you say??!! Might this constitute the 'Modified Latin Mass' I referred to early on in my '9.5 Theses'? What would the Vatican, Anglicans, Episcopalians, Lutherans, Presbyterians, Adventists, Orthodox, and Rabbis say? How might this fly in Russia, China, and India? I love cathedrals -- but I keep hearing horror stories about human sacrifices occurring behind locked cathedral doors, and in cathedral basements. We Need to Get to the Bottom and Top of What the Hell is Going On Regarding HUMAN SACRIFICE!!! I Want All Human Sacrifices to Cease Immediately and Permanently!!! And that includes Bohemian Grove. Understood???
Why don't we have a Visible God with a Simple and Straightforward Bible -- containing absolutely no BS or contradictions? Why are we seemingly ruled by secrecy? Has anyone read 'The Gods of Eden' by William Bramley, 'Rule by Secrecy' by Jim Marrs, and 'The Great Controversy' by Ellen White? Dealing with theology in a deep and penetrating manner is like walking through quicksand, swimming with Piranha, playing with burning magnesium, etc, etc, etc. Sure, the preachers lie to their congregations -- but what the hell are they supposed to do? If they tell the truth -- all hell breaks loose -- and they end up with a split church and no job. That's fine if you don't mind scrubbing toilets -- and I'm not joking. You see what I've been reduced to within this website. I really just have to talk to myself in fantasyland -- except that what I'm dealing with is Deadly Serious -- yet very, very few wish to talk to me. I've gotten a significant amount of hostility and condescension during my internet adventures. I no longer post on YouTube. I just post here in the Mists -- and I've promised 'No Surprises'. I've been speculating about a hypothetical Earth-Human Island in a Universal Reptilian Theocracy -- wherein Male and Female Human Physicality and Responsible Freedom are considered to be heresy. Are the Ten Commandments the Law of God in a Universal Reptilian Theocracy? If so, is it easier for Reptilians to obey the Law of God, than it is for Earth Human Beings? I keep sensing a God the Father v God the Son -- Reptilian v Human Galactic Jihad -- with the Queen of Heaven and the God of This World taking advantage of the situation. I am VERY, VERY sorry if I have this wrong. Remember, my tripe is mostly speculative science fiction -- which I only post on this little forum, where I am mostly ignored. I have done some role-playing regarding major and minor deities -- and it has scared the hell out of me. I'm not crazy -- but it's probably a miracle that I'm not in a mental institution by now. I'm half-joking and half-serious when I speak of the insanity thing. I think the true theological realities are rather deep, disorienting, and upsetting. I think this is why a lot of people become atheists. They simply do not, or cannot, deal with the madness. It's easier to live in denial. That's why Egyptians are so happy -- because they Live in de Nile.
I don't wish to hate anyone or any race -- ever. However, I'm presently upset with just about everything and everyone -- including myself. I wonder if 'God' (One who bodily appears to everyone) would have to change bodies when entering and leaving this solar system -- and completely change their approach, demeanor, and attitude when arriving and departing 'our' solar system? Once again, should this solar system be completely human -- at least regarding 'permanent residents'? Might there be some sort of a 'student exchange program' between this solar system and other solar systems? What about a 'galactic work-study program'? One more thing. What if there were a simple 5% Solar System Consumption Tax to support the United States of the Solar System? What if there were a 50% income tax for annual incomes exceeding One Million U.S. Dollars -- which would go directly to randomly selected worthy charities? Perhaps this is going too far. I don't know. I simply wish to eliminate destitute-poverty and the non-compassionate use of accumulated wealth. Is this unreasonable and irresponsible? I'm sensing that just about everyone has written me off, shut me out, and given me the kiss of death. I'm sensing absolutely no support whatsoever. This venture is not going well at all. What the hell do you want from me? People I see every day, seem to be very happy without considering any of this save the world stuff. They're laughing and screwing each other like rabbits -- while I grapple with some very dark subjects -- and sleep by myself. I'm getting really sick and tired of this. There is absolutely no reward for doing any of this. Just the opposite. The more I post -- the more I feel the universe despising me and wishing I were eternally dead. Perhaps all of you won't be disappointed. Unfortunately, I don't expect death to be a sweet release. Just the opposite.
Here is a refinement of something I previously posted. Consider reading 'The Federalist Papers', the 1928 'Book of Common Prayer', and 'The Desire of Ages' over and over and over again -- while listening to the Bach 'B-Minor Mass'. That's what I intend to do. I'm pretty much through trying to problem solve -- with no response or conversation. Do you really want war? I bring peace, rather than a sword -- but I have a feeling, that on a reincarnational basis -- I am one mean sonofabitch who you do NOT want to mess with. Perhaps I should start studying international banking, weapons systems, the art of kicking
@$$, etc, etc, etc. Is THAT what you want? If it is, I suspect that I can serve it to you in heaping portions. Do you feel lucky? Go ahead -- make my day. Perhaps everyone has had their chance -- and it's time to wrap things up. How many lifetimes do we need to get it right? Would we get it right with an infinite number of lifetimes? Would we ever learn? Most of us behave as if we haven't learned a fracking thing. Unfortunately, the Fracking Dracs don't seem to be helping matters much. Frankly, the whole fracking universe seems to be a fracking mess. I wish I could set everything straight -- but I seem to lack even the most simple self-governance skills. We are so screwed. But please -- show me my errors within this thread -- so I can correct them. Am I vibrating too slowly? Do you want some sugary Pleiadian talk, or positive affirmations? Do you desire a higher-critical theological discourse? The latest scandal? The latest doom and gloom? Porn? What the hell do you really want? Tell me what you want -- what you really, really want! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoaiWe-SNsM I made a completely ignorant fool out of myself at a 'Spice Girls' concert. It's all their fault. Blame them -- especially 'Space-Spice'.
It's the creepy and violent aspects of the PTB which especially trouble me -- but I don't object to having wise and powerful 'advisors' lurking in the shadows -- and speaking when spoken to. The seemingly 'Infant' Human Race seems to be on some sort of a 'Galactic Hit-List' -- and the Illuminati and Other Elites seem to be assisting the Galactic PTB in carrying out the 'Hit'. I so hope that I'm wrong. I so want everything to be loving and happy -- but I'm not holding my breath -- waiting for Hell to freeze over. I don't recommend the mental-modeling I engage in. I don't proselytize. I don't even try to make a fast buck (although I probably should). This is just more Political and Theological Science-Fiction -- which I try to make as reality-based as possible -- yet I offer abundant disclaimers and no guarantees. But really, contemplate the possibility of an Ancient Universe with an Ancient Race of Non-Human Beings -- with Ancient Traditions. Then, imagine a smart and ambitious Reptilian Queen who tries to 'improve' things -- Genetically and Governmentally -- and starts a Huge Galactic Holy War. Is this any more farfetched than most of the theories and theologies? Believe it or not, I am attempting to make Christianity work. I am attempting to defend Christianity in a VERY unorthodox manner. I couldn't do this sort of thing as a clergyperson or professor of theology. At one point, I thought I wanted to be a televangelist -- but I'm glad I didn't go down that road -- although I think it would've been a blast.Carol wrote:It is my opinion that anyone who participates in satanic rituals, the sexual abuse of children and human sacrifice is evil. I may be missing a few atrocities but these are the highlights.
I'm increasingly thinking of the 'Illuminati and Other Elites' as being 'Corrupted Errand Boys and Girls in the Middle of a Nasty Galactic Civil War'. They might ultimately answer to one or more very powerful Reptilian Queen(s). I have no idea what the real deal is regarding Solar System Governance, but I've been poking and prodding for at least a couple of years now -- with very mixed results. I'm in a rut right now, and I'm trying to move in a completely different direction -- so this post might be my last for a while. I've said that dozens of times. But I'm going to try harder than ever to stop. Will this be good or bad for the Illuminati? Perhaps they are breathing a collective sigh of relief!! As I try once more to say goodbye (at least for a while) -- I wish to restate my desire to achieve peaceful and ethical results. Regardless of the nature of our predicament -- I do NOT desire torture and extermination of any sort, and I especially do NOT desire the torture and extermination of the soul -- regardless of the realities of soul and physicality. I desire a peaceful and ethical world, solar system, galaxy, and universe -- but I am NOT a peace at any price type of person. I keep sensing an Impending Final Solution (complete with enslavement, torture, and extermination). I obviously think the world is in an abominable state. Things have seemingly been in a reprehensible condition for aeons. I continue to be a combination of Incurable Optimism and Unyielding Despair. My plans for the coming months are to simply research, write, and practice what I've been preaching. Once again, a lot of you know where I live and work. Some of you even know my phone-number. I'd be happy to talk -- anytime and anywhere -- 24/7 -- but I'm going to try to give it a rest within the 'Mists of Avalon'.
What if Lilith was a Reptilian Queen aka Archangel (Michael?) who was responsible for the 'creation' or 'genetic-engineering' of Male and Female Human Beings (with Interdimensional Reptilian Souls) aka 'Adam and Eve' -- and offered them Responsible Freedom rather than Absolute Obedience? What if 33.33% of the Interdimensional Reptilians aka Angels chose to leave their Hermaphrodite Reptilian Physicality and enter Male and Female Human Physicality? What if this was the 'Fall', the 'Original and Unpardonable Sin' -- and the cause of the 'War in Heaven'? What if the soul of Lilith later reincarnated as various key historical figures -- both male and female? What if two rival Archangels remained in Hermaphrodite Reptilian physicality -- and have been fighting against Humanity for a very long time? What if the Quest of the Historical Jesus leads all the way back to Lilith? What if Michael = Second in Command = Lilith = Enki = Lucifer = Hathor = Isis = Queen of Heaven = King David = Various Pharaohs = Jesus = Michelangelo = ???? (among others)? Don't crucify me for suggesting this. As you know, I am freely sharing my speculations with anyone who might be interested. I don't spread this sort of thing anywhere beyond this website. I'm toying with the concept of Three Key Reptilian Queens from Orion and/or Sirius -- fighting for power in this solar system -- and possibly beyond. I have absolutely no idea if this is true -- and I mean absolutely no disrespect to anyone or any belief system. I'm more conservative and more liberal than you can imagine. I haven't been in a mad rush to discover the truth. I could go about this quest in a much more efficient manner. I have chosen to go slow and informal -- for who knows what reasons. I know not what I do.
I have not, and will not, reject God -- but I will continue to ask hard questions. To not do so would be highly irresponsible in my view. Once again, I am NOT shaking my fist at God -- but I am shaking. What if we are really dealing with a monumental galactic power-struggle to control the Universal Church Theocracy? What if the Roman Catholic Church is the Local Branch of this hypothetical Universal Church Theocracy? What if the RCC is a punishing and controlling version of a very positive church-state model? We need to be VERY careful to NOT throw out the baby with the bathwater. As I poke and prod -- I continue to contemplate working with Idealized and Reformed versions of the Monarchy, Papacy, Illuminati, Nazis, Masons, Jesuits, et al. That might not be PC, but I don't really care. I'm trying to inch my way back to the 'safety' of the tree-trunk after being out on a very high and very thin limb for way too long. Some of my trials and tribulations have undoubtedly been self-generated tempests in teapots -- yet there seems to have been a very real and very frightening component to my struggle -- and this crisis (real or imagined) is ongoing. I think I'm going to watch a lot of BBC news -- just to attempt to reenter the 'real-world' -- instead of imagining that I'm in the middle of some sort of Galactic Final Jihad. I'm sorry for causing anyone any difficulties with my research and reasoning (or lack thereof). The problems I have encountered relative to how things really work in this neck of the woods have been truly disorienting, disillusioning, traumatizing, and humbling. I better understand how little I really understand. Thank-you for your patience with me as I neurotically pursued my solar system crusade to save us all from the infidels.
I knew someone who worked for one of the networks (but I won't say which one), and they sometimes jokingly referred to the particular location they worked in as 'The Snake-Pit'. And mind you, this was long before Alex Collier, David Icke, et al. I wonder if this were simply a figure of speech, or whether they knew decades ago what some of us seem to be discovering presently? As you know, my latest theory is that humanity is a recent (and possibly illegal) subset of an ancient reptilian race -- living on a Prison Planet in Rebellion. I have further speculated that humanity is animated by the same type of soul as are the hypothetical reptilian humanoid beings. In a sense, I'm OK dealing with other lifeforms throughout the universe -- but in another sense, I strongly object to what seems to be human-abuse within this particular solar system. It often seems as if we are being punished, taxed, and controlled by an other than human (and not of this world) civilization -- which seems to not like us one little bit. I'm hoping for an improved state of affairs in the near future. My self-important 'United States of the Solar System' thread has been my feeble attempt to achieve better results for all concerned. Unfortunately, without being on the inside, it's impossible for me to know what's really going on -- so I have decided to back-off, and mostly just watch the world through the eyes of those in countries outside of the United States, most notably England -- as I attempt to regain my sanity. I'm frankly intending to spend a lot of time watching the BBC News -- even though I live in the United States. All Roads Lead to Rome -- but Critical Nerve Center(s) might very well reside somewhere within England, the Moon, Sirius, and Orion. There is a new Vatican Archive Exhibition! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAao-fNIXDc This sort of thing brings tears to my eyes! I continue to think that we should study the Roman Empire and the Roman Catholic Church -- regardless of whether we believe in God and the Church -- or not. http://www.luxinarcana.org/en I keep thinking that I might have some sort of a Roman Empire and/or Roman Catholic Church reincarnational history -- and I keep thinking that someone knows what it might be -- but they're not talking to me. Not that I know of. An Ancient Egyptian Deity told me that I should do an FOIA inquiry -- but I never did. Ignorance is bliss. But then, why am I not happy? I need to stop. I'm trying to put the brakes on my speculation and posting. I've said way too much already. Namaste and Godspeed.
Freedom is the Fruit of Responsibility -- But It Must Never Be the Root. -- orthodoxymoron
Beware of the Medical-Space-Military Technocratic-Corporate-Theocracy. -- orthodoxymoron
Perhaps the Top One-Percent Should Reincarnate as the Bottom One-Percent. -- orthodoxymoron
Freedom as the Absolute Standard is a Mistake. Responsibility as the Absolute Standard is the Truth That Sets Us Free. -- orthodoxymoron
Orthodoxymoron Reflects Upon Life, the Universe, and Everything. "Where Are All the Stars?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92D15qtI_Gk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_LOOKssMpA
Yesterday I died; tomorrow's bleeding
Fall into your sunlight
The future's open wide beyond believing
To know why hope dies
And losing what was found, a world so hollow
Suspended in a compromise
But the silence of this sound is soon to follow
Somehow sundown
And finding answers
Is forgetting all of the questions we call home
Passing the graves of the unknown
As reason clouds my eyes with splendor fading
Illusions of the sunlight
A reflection of a lie will keep me waiting
With love gone for so long
And this day's ending
Is the proof of time killing all the faith I know
Knowing that faith is all I hold
And I've lost who I am, (i'm waiting)
and I can't understand (and fading)
Why my heart is so broken, (and holding)
rejecting your love, (love) without, (onto these tears)
love gone wrong; lifeless words carry on (i am crying)
But I know, all I know's that the end's beginning (i'm dying tonight)
who I am from the start, (i'm waiting)
take me home to my heart (and fading)
Let me go and I will run, (and holding)
I will not be silent, (silent) all this time (onto these tears)
spent in vain; wasted years wasted gain (i am crying)
All is lost but hope remains and this war's not over (i'm dying tonight)
There's a light, there's a sun (i'm waiting...)
taking all these shattered ones
To the place we belong (i am waiting...)
and his love will conquer all
1. Orthodoxymoron http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t833-orthodoxymoron
2. Project Isis http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t1303-project-isis
3. Saint Ouen and Saint Sulpice http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t1397-saint-ouen-and-saint-sulpice
4. 16 Tycoons Agree to Give Away Fortunes http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t1459-16-tycoons-agree-to-give-away-fortunes
5. Bill Cooper, Commander X, and Branton http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t1098-bill-cooper-commander-x-and-branton
6. Orthodoxymoron Threads http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t876-orthodoxymoron-threads
7. Amen Ra, et al http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t1116-amen-ra-et-al
8. Lucifer, Pagan Rome, Alexander the Great, Constantine the Great, and Papal Rome http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t1572-lucifer-pagan-rome-alexander-the-great-constantine-the-great-and-papal-rome
9. The United Nations and the City States http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t1538-the-united-nations-and-the-city-states
10. Ancient Technology http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t1637-ancient-technology
11. What is Gizeh Intelligence? http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t1348-what-is-gizeh-intelligence
12. Grace Cathedral http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t1327-grace-cathedral
13. Moral Responsibility http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t2806-moral-responsibility
14. The KGB Psychic Files http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t2622-the-kgb-psychic-files
15. Swiss Politicians to March on Bilderberg to Demand Resignation of Kissinger http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t2705-swiss-politicians-to-march-on-bilderberg-to-demand-arrest-of-kissinger
16. The War on Democracy http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t2895-the-war-on-democracy
17. No End in Sight http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t2896-no-end-in-sight
18. The New Rulers of the World http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t2923-the-new-rulers-of-the-world
19. The Sky is Falling! The Sky is Falling! http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t2808-the-sky-is-falling-the-sky-is-falling
20. Strange and Interesting Videos http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3008-strange-and-interesting-videos
21. Battlestar Phobos? http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t2991-battlestar-phobos
22. Old World Order v New World Order http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3123-old-world-order-v-new-world-order
23. Resurrecting the Dead Sea Scrolls http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3003-resurrecting-the-dead-sea-scrolls
24. Holy Cannibalism http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3010-holy-cannibalism
25. The History of Orthodox Christianity http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t2971-the-history-of-orthodox-christianity
26. Very Interesting Jordan Maxwell Interview http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t2531-very-interesting-jordan-maxwell-interview
27. How Should We Then Live? http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t2717-how-should-we-then-live
28. Banned From the Bible http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t2836-banned-from-the-bible
29. The Hidden Faith of the Founding Fathers http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3164-the-hidden-faith-of-the-founding-fathers
30. Eric Jon Phelps http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t2779-eric-jon-phelps
31. Pharaohs, Emperors, and Popes http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3112-pharaohs-emperors-and-popes
32. Death and Taxes http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t1158-death-and-taxes
33. Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Solar System http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t918-namaste-constitutional-responsible-freedom-solar-system
34. The Jesuits http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t1407-the-jesuits
35. Teutonic Zionism http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3047-teutonic-zionism
36. Trans-Humanism and Genetic-Manipulation http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3161-trans-humanism-and-genetic-manipulation
37. Fame, Fortune, Power, Pleasure, and Appearances http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3250-fame-fortune-power-pleasure-and-appearances
38. Complexity, Technology, Competition, Greed, Power-Hunger, Self-Exaltation, and the Quickening http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t1033-complexity-technology-competition-greed-power-hunger-self-exaltation-and-the-quickening
39. The Roman Empire Rules Today http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3229-the-roman-empire-rules-today
40. The University of Solar System Studies and Governance http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t2881-the-university-of-solar-system-studies-and-governance
41. The Hidden Story of Jesus http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t2618-the-hidden-story-of-jesus
42. Basiago and Stillings Confirm Barack Obama Traveled to Mars http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3428-basiago-and-stillings-confirm-barack-obama-traveled-to-mars
43. Healthcare in Critical Condition http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t2888-healthcare-in-critical-condition
44. Osiris-Isis-Horus-Set and the Orion-Sirius-Egyptian-Roman Empire http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3309-osiris-isis-horus-set-and-the-orion-sirius-egyptian-roman-empire#57214
45. War Games: The Dead Code http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3322-war-games-the-dead-code
46. Tibet, Kali, and the Trinity Goddess http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t1019-tibet-kali-and-the-trinity-goddess
47. Ring of Power http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t2921-ring-of-power
48. New Mass Translation Changes http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3557-new-mass-translation-changes
49. The Holy Tablets http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t2867-the-holy-tablets
50. Minimalist Tradtionalist Spirituality http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3539-minimalist-traditionalist-spirituality
51. The Church of England and the City of London http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3219-the-church-of-england-and-the-city-of-london
52. Three Interesting Ladies http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t1347-three-interesting-ladies
53. Reptilian Queens http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t2639-reptilian-queens
54. My Cure for Complacency http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3653-my-cure-for-complacency
55. Red Letter Church http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t1040-red-letter-church
56. Who is Lucifer? What Are They Doing? http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t841-who-is-lucifer-what-are-they-doing
57. Ruth Bader Ginsburg and the U.S. Constitution http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t4093-ruth-bader-ginsburg-and-the-us-constitution
58. Essential Minimalist-Traditionalist Theology http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t4173-essential-minimalist-traditionalist-theology
59. The United States of the Solar System http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3240-the-united-states-of-the-solar-system
60. The Ten Commandments Revisited http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3575-the-ten-commandments-revisited
61. Sovereignty of God -- Absolute Obedience -- Human Sovereignty -- Responsible Freedom http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t4278-sovereignty-of-god-absolute-obedience-human-sovereignty-responsible-freedom
62. Who is Lilith? http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t4331-who-is-lilith
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yMEjLJ4akw&feature=related
I've got to walk away while there's still hope
Learn to erase the love I know
And let you go
'Cause what I thought was love was only lies
Taking what you want, left me behind
As my heart dies
So here we are again
Knowing this will never end
So I must let go
This is my last goodbye
Leaving all the memories of you behind
I will not wait here
And waste my whole life
Waste my whole life
I can see you now with opened eyes
When you come around I realize
That I don't need you to survive
I will not begin
The fight that we could never end
So I am letting go
This is my last goodbye
Leaving all the memories of you behind
I will not wait here
And waste my whole life
Waste my whole life...
My passion, my poison
The life and death of me
I can't take you taking everything
From a love never meant to be
This is my last goodbye
Leaving all the memories of you behind
I will not wait here
And waste my whole life
This is my last goodbye
This will be my final tear for love to die
I will not wait here
And waste my whole life
With my last goodbye
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-i1ESIRKdA
Beware of the Medical-Space-Military Technocratic-Corporate-Theocracy. -- orthodoxymoron
Perhaps the Top One-Percent Should Reincarnate as the Bottom One-Percent. -- orthodoxymoron
Freedom as the Absolute Standard is a Mistake. Responsibility as the Absolute Standard is the Truth That Sets Us Free. -- orthodoxymoron
Orthodoxymoron Reflects Upon Life, the Universe, and Everything. "Where Are All the Stars?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92D15qtI_Gk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_LOOKssMpA
Yesterday I died; tomorrow's bleeding
Fall into your sunlight
The future's open wide beyond believing
To know why hope dies
And losing what was found, a world so hollow
Suspended in a compromise
But the silence of this sound is soon to follow
Somehow sundown
And finding answers
Is forgetting all of the questions we call home
Passing the graves of the unknown
As reason clouds my eyes with splendor fading
Illusions of the sunlight
A reflection of a lie will keep me waiting
With love gone for so long
And this day's ending
Is the proof of time killing all the faith I know
Knowing that faith is all I hold
And I've lost who I am, (i'm waiting)
and I can't understand (and fading)
Why my heart is so broken, (and holding)
rejecting your love, (love) without, (onto these tears)
love gone wrong; lifeless words carry on (i am crying)
But I know, all I know's that the end's beginning (i'm dying tonight)
who I am from the start, (i'm waiting)
take me home to my heart (and fading)
Let me go and I will run, (and holding)
I will not be silent, (silent) all this time (onto these tears)
spent in vain; wasted years wasted gain (i am crying)
All is lost but hope remains and this war's not over (i'm dying tonight)
There's a light, there's a sun (i'm waiting...)
taking all these shattered ones
To the place we belong (i am waiting...)
and his love will conquer all
1. Orthodoxymoron http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t833-orthodoxymoron
2. Project Isis http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t1303-project-isis
3. Saint Ouen and Saint Sulpice http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t1397-saint-ouen-and-saint-sulpice
4. 16 Tycoons Agree to Give Away Fortunes http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t1459-16-tycoons-agree-to-give-away-fortunes
5. Bill Cooper, Commander X, and Branton http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t1098-bill-cooper-commander-x-and-branton
6. Orthodoxymoron Threads http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t876-orthodoxymoron-threads
7. Amen Ra, et al http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t1116-amen-ra-et-al
8. Lucifer, Pagan Rome, Alexander the Great, Constantine the Great, and Papal Rome http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t1572-lucifer-pagan-rome-alexander-the-great-constantine-the-great-and-papal-rome
9. The United Nations and the City States http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t1538-the-united-nations-and-the-city-states
10. Ancient Technology http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t1637-ancient-technology
11. What is Gizeh Intelligence? http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t1348-what-is-gizeh-intelligence
12. Grace Cathedral http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t1327-grace-cathedral
13. Moral Responsibility http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t2806-moral-responsibility
14. The KGB Psychic Files http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t2622-the-kgb-psychic-files
15. Swiss Politicians to March on Bilderberg to Demand Resignation of Kissinger http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t2705-swiss-politicians-to-march-on-bilderberg-to-demand-arrest-of-kissinger
16. The War on Democracy http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t2895-the-war-on-democracy
17. No End in Sight http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t2896-no-end-in-sight
18. The New Rulers of the World http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t2923-the-new-rulers-of-the-world
19. The Sky is Falling! The Sky is Falling! http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t2808-the-sky-is-falling-the-sky-is-falling
20. Strange and Interesting Videos http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3008-strange-and-interesting-videos
21. Battlestar Phobos? http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t2991-battlestar-phobos
22. Old World Order v New World Order http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3123-old-world-order-v-new-world-order
23. Resurrecting the Dead Sea Scrolls http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3003-resurrecting-the-dead-sea-scrolls
24. Holy Cannibalism http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3010-holy-cannibalism
25. The History of Orthodox Christianity http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t2971-the-history-of-orthodox-christianity
26. Very Interesting Jordan Maxwell Interview http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t2531-very-interesting-jordan-maxwell-interview
27. How Should We Then Live? http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t2717-how-should-we-then-live
28. Banned From the Bible http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t2836-banned-from-the-bible
29. The Hidden Faith of the Founding Fathers http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3164-the-hidden-faith-of-the-founding-fathers
30. Eric Jon Phelps http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t2779-eric-jon-phelps
31. Pharaohs, Emperors, and Popes http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3112-pharaohs-emperors-and-popes
32. Death and Taxes http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t1158-death-and-taxes
33. Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Solar System http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t918-namaste-constitutional-responsible-freedom-solar-system
34. The Jesuits http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t1407-the-jesuits
35. Teutonic Zionism http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3047-teutonic-zionism
36. Trans-Humanism and Genetic-Manipulation http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3161-trans-humanism-and-genetic-manipulation
37. Fame, Fortune, Power, Pleasure, and Appearances http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3250-fame-fortune-power-pleasure-and-appearances
38. Complexity, Technology, Competition, Greed, Power-Hunger, Self-Exaltation, and the Quickening http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t1033-complexity-technology-competition-greed-power-hunger-self-exaltation-and-the-quickening
39. The Roman Empire Rules Today http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3229-the-roman-empire-rules-today
40. The University of Solar System Studies and Governance http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t2881-the-university-of-solar-system-studies-and-governance
41. The Hidden Story of Jesus http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t2618-the-hidden-story-of-jesus
42. Basiago and Stillings Confirm Barack Obama Traveled to Mars http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3428-basiago-and-stillings-confirm-barack-obama-traveled-to-mars
43. Healthcare in Critical Condition http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t2888-healthcare-in-critical-condition
44. Osiris-Isis-Horus-Set and the Orion-Sirius-Egyptian-Roman Empire http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3309-osiris-isis-horus-set-and-the-orion-sirius-egyptian-roman-empire#57214
45. War Games: The Dead Code http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3322-war-games-the-dead-code
46. Tibet, Kali, and the Trinity Goddess http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t1019-tibet-kali-and-the-trinity-goddess
47. Ring of Power http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t2921-ring-of-power
48. New Mass Translation Changes http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3557-new-mass-translation-changes
49. The Holy Tablets http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t2867-the-holy-tablets
50. Minimalist Tradtionalist Spirituality http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3539-minimalist-traditionalist-spirituality
51. The Church of England and the City of London http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3219-the-church-of-england-and-the-city-of-london
52. Three Interesting Ladies http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t1347-three-interesting-ladies
53. Reptilian Queens http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t2639-reptilian-queens
54. My Cure for Complacency http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3653-my-cure-for-complacency
55. Red Letter Church http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t1040-red-letter-church
56. Who is Lucifer? What Are They Doing? http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t841-who-is-lucifer-what-are-they-doing
57. Ruth Bader Ginsburg and the U.S. Constitution http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t4093-ruth-bader-ginsburg-and-the-us-constitution
58. Essential Minimalist-Traditionalist Theology http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t4173-essential-minimalist-traditionalist-theology
59. The United States of the Solar System http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3240-the-united-states-of-the-solar-system
60. The Ten Commandments Revisited http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3575-the-ten-commandments-revisited
61. Sovereignty of God -- Absolute Obedience -- Human Sovereignty -- Responsible Freedom http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t4278-sovereignty-of-god-absolute-obedience-human-sovereignty-responsible-freedom
62. Who is Lilith? http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t4331-who-is-lilith
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yMEjLJ4akw&feature=related
I've got to walk away while there's still hope
Learn to erase the love I know
And let you go
'Cause what I thought was love was only lies
Taking what you want, left me behind
As my heart dies
So here we are again
Knowing this will never end
So I must let go
This is my last goodbye
Leaving all the memories of you behind
I will not wait here
And waste my whole life
Waste my whole life
I can see you now with opened eyes
When you come around I realize
That I don't need you to survive
I will not begin
The fight that we could never end
So I am letting go
This is my last goodbye
Leaving all the memories of you behind
I will not wait here
And waste my whole life
Waste my whole life...
My passion, my poison
The life and death of me
I can't take you taking everything
From a love never meant to be
This is my last goodbye
Leaving all the memories of you behind
I will not wait here
And waste my whole life
This is my last goodbye
This will be my final tear for love to die
I will not wait here
And waste my whole life
With my last goodbye
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-i1ESIRKdA
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Join date : 2010-09-28
Location : The Matrix
orthodoxymoron wrote:I'm going to attempt to deal with this topic by pretending to be an insider - interacting with all aspects of this hypothetical Secret Government. I don't know where this will lead - but I doubt that it will end well - for me at least. I'm going to pretend to travel throughout the solar system as an ambassador or coordinator of sorts - who is trying to transform the Secret Solar System Government into a Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Solar System. I don't have a clue how to proceed - and I will step on a lot of very sensitive toes - connected to feet which can kick one where it counts - swiftly and firmly. The horror. I will interact with forum members as though they were colleagues and reporters - even though I know that sounds corny. Try to fit your questions and comments into the story-line, just for the heck of it. This is just an experiment. I honestly don't know where I am going to end up on this adventure. I'm just poking and prodding. Who knows - I might end-up becoming a member of the Illuminati!
This thread will basically be a continuation of the 'United States of the Solar System' thread from AV1. I have been using the term 'Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Solar System' more and more because it is so descriptive and concise. The U.S. seems to be in the doghouse - and it's not hard to understand why. But if the Secret Government rules the Visible Government - this may explain 90% of the problems. I just wish to keep conceptualizing Solar System Governance - from a wide variety of perspectives. Take a look at the original thread - and then tell me what you think. This is an ongoing research project. http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=15878
I'm really trying to hijack the Secret Government and the New World Order - rather than fighting it. I'm a United Nations Country Club Constitutionalist - rather than a Shotgun and Constitution in My Truck Constitutionalist. I'm starting to get better acquainted with the Vatican, the United Nations, the City of London, and Washington D.C. I'm also looking at a lot of the fringe material regarding the Underground Bases and the Secret Space Program - but I'm trying to pretend like I'm a non-corrupt member of the Illuminati - or even to pretend (as strange and delusional as it seems) that I am a non-corrupt god or goddess (very small 'g' orthodoxymoron) who is completely onboard with the U.S. Constitution and the Teachings of Jesus. This is a very strange space to be in - and I don't recommend these mind-games to everyone. Don't try this at home kiddies! The following is an example of the kind of Solar System Governance Mind Games I have been playing lately. This one scared me so much - that I decided not to continue it. Here goes.....
It's midnight. Do you know where your secret government is headquartered? Got cosmic clearance? Someone's knocking on my door. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qiu-CEylTOM&feature=related It's a middle-aged man dressed in a three-piece suit. There's a black Suburban with multiple antennas parked in my driveway. My dog is barking furiously. My heart is pounding. I open the door slowly. 'Yes?', I stammer. I am greeted with a terse, 'orthodoxymoron I presume?' I nod affirmatively, as I ask 'Who are you? Why are you here?' The man responds by flashing an official looking badge, and formally stating, 'I am Agent Scranton with the NSA. You need to come with me. Your home and dog will be well cared for, but you must come with me now.' 'What the...' I am interrupted with a firm 'all of your questions will be answered in due time - but you must come with me immediately.' I reluctantly follow - shutting the door behind me - and climbing into the front seat of the still running Suburban.
'What's going on? Where are we going?', I gasp - as we race down the fast lane of the interstate highway at 20 over the speed-limit. Scranton answers, 'a situation has arisen as a direct result of your internet posting. The Solar System Powers That Be have been instructed by the Galactic Powers That Be - in no uncertain terms - that fundamental changes must be made regarding the policies and activities in this solar system - and that they approve, in general, of your editorial bias, as expressed over the last couple of years on various web sites. They have specified that they want you to interact with the major players throughout the solar system - to bring about these changes - in an evolutionary, but not revolutionary, manner.' 'O My God!' I exclaim - as I sink lower and lower in the bucket-seat. 'What have I gotten myself into? I don't know what to say or do. I just posted random thoughts, and asked stupid questions, to try to figure out what's going on in this crazy world. Why me? How do I know that you're telling me the truth? How do I know that you're not just kidnapping me? How do I know that I'm not going to end up as food for the reptilians?' 'Look orthodoxymoron - this is serious! This world was slated for an extermination event, which has now been placed on hold - pending the success or failure of the reforming efforts.'
'Exterminatus Interruptus?', I smirk. 'Get with the program wise-guy! Nobody likes you! Your house is a mess. Your life is a mess. You don't have a degree. You're not an insider. You're politically incorrect. You're just a smart-alec with no brains and no track record. The visible and legitmate government hates you. The secret government hates you. The Annunaki hate you. The reptilians and greys hate you. The church hates you. The Jesuits and Alphabet Agents hate you. Satan and Lucifer hate you. Jesus loves you - but everyone else thinks you're an @$$hole! You have no friends. Your co-workers hate you. Your family hates you. You even hate yourself - don't you? Everyone is furious with the strong-arm tactics of the Galactic Powers That Be - but there's not a damn thing they can do about it! The deliberately inflicted oil disasters in the Gulf of Mexico were part of this fiasco. The Solar System Powers That Be have to cooperate with you - whether they like it or not!' Everyone thinks this is a sick joke. You have no support. You will fail. The New World Order, with a world human population of 500,000,000...is inevitable. You are simply prolonging the agony. You're not good enough for anyone. No Nobel Peace Prize for you. You should've written an Old Testamental Justification for Nuking Iran! Why don't you just give-up? Curse God - and commit suicide! To be, or not to be? That is the question.
I count to ten, and calmly respond, 'OK...I'm going to need a helluva lot more evidence that what you are saying is really true. I don't trust anyone - not even myself. I think this might be some sort of a MILAB or a CIA mind-control experiment. You claim that 'everyone' hates me - well to be quite honest - I don't like you Scranton!' 'Like me or not - it's showtime pretty-boy - and you'd better watch your backside - because there are a lot of reptilians, greys, and humans who want to see you fail BIG TIME!' I take a deep breath - try to relax - and calmly whisper, 'Agent Scranton - if we can't even get along - how in the hell am I supposed to interact constructively with the PTB?' Scranton gives me a sideways look, and whispers back, 'You need to know your place. This thing is bigger than you can possibly imagine - and if you come on strong like 'Ghost Busters' - the system will eat you alive.' I sheepishly reply, 'I dreamed of a perfected humanity living in a perfected solar system. I had big ideas. But now that I am confronted with this - I'm not so sure any more. I don't know where to begin. By the way - where are we going?'
'I'm driving you to a small airport about 5 minutes from here. There you will board a Navy helicopter, which will fly you to an undisclosed location. Everything is compartmentalized. No one knows what anyone else is doing, or where they're going. The system likes it that way. You'll see.' I query, 'Who should I watch-out for?' 'Lucifer.' 'Lucifer?' I'm shocked, and exclaim, 'I asked you a serious question - and now you're being a wise-guy with me!' Scranton has a poker-face, and responds, 'I am very, very serious. What they taught you in Sunday school is BS. Lucifer is the most beautiful woman you have ever seen in your life. She runs this solar system - and answers only to Satan.' 'Now wait a minute! This is ridiculous! I speculated about this sort of thing on the internet - but I didn't really believe it. You're jerking my chain - aren't you?' 'No. I am deadly serious - and I mean DEADLY serious. I'm giving you a heads-up, because you will need to be prepared for the worst. Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned - and you have scorned the woman most closely connected with hell. Lucifer's IQ is 532. She has the equivalent of 87 PhD's. She is NOT the forgive and forget type. If you cross her - you're dead-meat - and you've crossed her BIG TIME!'
'When will I have the privilege of meeting her majesty?' 'Soon. But first you must go through 'Galactic Boot Camp' to learn how to survive in the shadowy underworld. This will NOT be a pleasant experience!' I am perplexed, 'Why does this seem so militaristic and hostile? I feel as though I am entering into a Nazi realm of sorts!' 'You are. You will be very lucky to remain sane. Many who have tried to save the world by being knights in shining armor - are now heavily sedated in secret mental institutions.' I nervously blurt-out, 'I can hardly wait for the fun to begin! Fortunately - I'm already insane. I crossed that bridge a long time ago. But I have learned to function somewhat productively and safely - in a limited sort of way - in mainstream society.' Scranton is not amused. 'orthodoxymoron - this isn't funny! You haven't seen the dazed and hopeless expressions on the faces of these formerly brave and intelligent people - who are now reduced to rocking back and forth in the fetal position.' I sheepishly reply, 'Sorry. I'm just very nervous and apprehensive about all of this.' Scranton looks me straight in the eye, and says, 'Be afraid. Be very afraid.' I see a Navy Sea Stallion helicopter looming in the distance - with rotor spinning - waiting to devour me. My rendezvous with destiny is imminent.
As we pull up alongside the helicopter - I turn to thank Agent Scranton for the ride - and I notice that his eyes have vertical slits instead of round pupils. I gasp slightly, and he notices my surprise, and laughingly shakes his head, saying 'you haven't seen anything yet! I'm just a 90% human/10% reptile hybrid - and I forgot to put my contacts in when I got the call to pick you up! Sorry about that! I still don't like you - but good-luck anyway!' My hand is shaking as I shake Scranton's hand - and I stumble and fall as I run toward the waiting helicopter. Is this the Helicopter to Hell?
The pilot and co-pilot greet me, as I climb aboard the Sea Stallion helicopter. The door closes with a dull thud - and off we go, into the wild blue yonder! But something is wrong! This seems more like a spacecraft than a helicopter! The helicopter exterior was a hologram! Suddenly everything is dark - and I look out the window - and see thousands of very bright stars! Then I realize that I am onboard an antigravity craft! The co-pilot turns to me, saying, 'Welcome to Astra Airlines!' 'Oh My God!', I exclaim. 'Where the hell are we going?' 'We're just taking you to the International Space Station.' 'Just?!' 'What's going to happen there?' 'You'll find out soon enough. They don't tell us anything. We only know enough to do our jobs properly. Curiosity kills cats, careers - and sometimes it even kills people.'
I used to just think that God was in control - and would take care of everything - and that all human efforts to save the world would fail - which would culminate in Armageddon and the Second Coming of Christ. I don't think like that anymore. I think the ball is really in our court - and that our planet is how we plan-it.
Is Solar System Governance too confusing and intimidating for mere mortals to contemplate and comprehend? I made post after post on this topic for months and months on Avalon 1 - with very little response. Of those responses - most were either negative or off-topic. Have we pretty much left things up to the Gods, Goddesses, and Megalomaniacs Anonymous? But then we bitch and blame when things don't go our way. I have made various observations and proposals - but what I would really like to see is vigorous discussion of the general topic of Solar System Governance. To me - this should be the number one topic in our world today. I just stumbled onto it - and I keep kicking myself that I didn't get into this sooner. I think I'll be going 'round and 'round with this subject for the rest of my life. I don't think I'll ever really master the concept - but I'm sure going to try. I think that others who are more emotionally stable and better educated will have to do the heavy lifting - but I will do my best to offer moral-support. I'll just keep posting and hoping. Hope springs eternal.
I probably shouldn't say this - but I think I may have unknowingly been somewhat close to two people who knew a helluva lot about world government - possibly one on the Zionist side - and possibly one on the Teutonic Zionist side. I don't know for sure - but I think about both of them a lot. They never said anything much - but now in retrospect - and reading between the lines - I'm thinking this might've been the case. I often wish that I hadn't moved away from the area where both of them lived. One is now deceased - and I'm sure the other wouldn't give me the time of day. They probably wouldn't have told me anything years ago anyway. I'm too brash, flighty, idealistic and honest. I'm the put my foot in my mouth and spill the beans type of person. How does one rise into the stratosphere of world government without becoming hard, cynical, corrupt, and out of touch? In general - I get the picture of people who are penetratingly intelligent, cold, and calculating - and perhaps without much conscience, compassion, innocence, or idealism. Come to think of it - if one were to rise to the top - they might not like the view. (I got that one from 'Miami Vice'.) Do the people at Bilderberg ever really look happy and joyful? My impression of world leaders is that they most often look like someone just beat the crap out of them - rather than being triumphantly on top of the world. 'Atlas Dropped the Ball and Shrugged - A Case Study in Global Leadership.' Doesn't that sound like a great article title for the CFR journal 'Foreign Affairs'?!
Somewhat unrelatedly - what if it were illegal to have a net-worth greater than one billion dollars (USD) or less than zero dollars (USD)? Would this defeat the spirit and letter of free-enterprise? Should we focus upon the Responsible Pursuit of Fame, Fortune, Power, and Pleasure - Where Responsibility is Rewarded and Irresponsibility is Punished? What if Public Assistance were in the form of a Card which provided the recipient with up to 500 dollars (USD) per month in the form of a zero interest LOAN? (rather than a handout) What if everyone were issued a Healthcare Card at no cost - which would provide them with Free Preventive, Basic, and Emergency Services? What if a second Healthcare Card were available to cover 75% of costs for everything else - which everyone would have to pay for on a sliding-scale based upon their income and net-worth? What if medical professional incomes were limited to a quarter of a million dollars (USD) annually? (How would the poor b@stards survive?) I think the medical profession is more corrupt than hell itself - and that's pretty damn corrupt. Why isn't the health and safety of our 'civilization' based upon PREVENTION in all areas of life? Follow the money...
When I ask questions - especially regarding fringe topics which are especially controversial - I'm really asking 'Am I sane?' It drives me crazy when answers are not forthcoming. I really just want something in place which facilitates unity and freedom for all races - and which is based upon truth rather than lies. I'm only poking and prodding because things are so screwed-up, and because they seem to have been screwed-up for thousands of years. I fear that things will continue to be screwed-up for thousands of years - if we even survive.
Unrelatedly, I sat down today, and read from my Holy Bible, Book of Common Prayer, and Church Hymnal. Last night, I spoke with some friends who attend a church which I used to attend. They invited me to church. How should I properly deal with this, in light of all the blasphemous postings I've made? Should I continue to speculate regarding the possible Luciferian origins of theology, mythology, architecture, sacred music, and sacred texts? Or should I just shut up? Have I more than made my point? Do I need to learn to know when to stop? Have I worn out my welcome? Even if I'm right - or even partially right - is this subject too hot to handle? Is it a threat to national security? Are more things than we think ultimately from the Pen of Lucifer? Are all of us actors on a stage? Is Lucifer the script-writer? Has this been going on for a long, long time? Could this entire world be one big Colosseum Event - a Galactic Theater of the Universe? Is it time for WE THE PEOPLE OF EARTH to close the curtain - and START WRITING OUR OWN SCRIPT? Just wondering.
Has anyone taken a very, very close look at the architecture and art of churches, mosques, synagogues, and government buildings throughout the world? Are there commonalities? Look at the domes. Look at the gods and goddesses. What's going on here? I desire a unified and peaceful world which is genuinely responsibly free. A combined church and state wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't run by the same humans and non-humans who brought us the Crusades and the Inquisition. A minimalist humanist namaste constitutional responsible freedom theocracy might actually work. I just worry that highly disfunctional gods and goddesses would screw everything up - resulting in billions of corpses throughout the world. Would the Latin Mass, the Teachings of Jesus, and the U.S. Constitution be a good place to start? I'd like to know what the Pope and Jesuit General really think about in their most private moments regarding psychology, ethics, governance, science, technology, secrecy, history, spirituality, etc. It might be very, very different than what they present in public. I sometimes imagine their thoughts as they stand before the faithful. Might they be thinking 'if you people only knew what's really going on in this world!' Many people seem to be jumping out of the church frying pan, and into the new age fire. Look at the 'Infiltration of the New Age' thread in MOA. The information presented should be considered very carefully. Is there a Spiritual Switzerland somewhere between the Traditional Church and the New Age?
Things get done based upon economic incentive, upon the ability of people to be deceptive, and upon their ability to throw their weight around. IT IS NOT BASED UPON REASON AND RATIONAL CONVERSATION. WHY IS THIS? Would it help if I became a pompous, supercilious, bombastic, opinionated, divisive, partisan shout-show host??? Is that what everyone wants? It worked out quite well for Rush Limbaugh didn't it???!!! Is there any difference in effectiveness between someone who posts what I post - and someone who doesn't post at all - and just concentrates on $crewing the competition and his secretary? This may be my last post. I just got an idea for a business with only one employee (or independent contractor)!!!
I might even get a raise!!!
Seven score and five years ago, a great American signed the Emancipation Proclamation. This momentous decree came as a great beacon light of hope to millions of Negro slaves who had been seared in the flames of withering injustice. It came as a joyous daybreak to end the long night of their captivity.
But one hundred forty-five years later, the Human Race still is not free. One hundred forty-five years later, the lives of Human Beings are still sadly crippled by the manacles of greed and the chains of fear. One hundred forty-five years later, Humanity lives on a lonely island of quiet desperation in the midst of a vast ocean of nearly seven billion souls. One hundred forty-five years later, Humanity is still languishing in the corners of global society and finds itself an exile on its own planet. And so today...I have determined to dramatize a shameful condition.
In a sense...I've come to our religious and political leaders to cash a check. When the architects of the American constitutional republic wrote the magnificent words of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, they were signing a promissory note to which every American was to fall heir. This note was a promise that all people would be guaranteed the "Inalienable Rights" of "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness." America was to be a city on a hill...to illuminate the rest of the world with Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom. It is obvious today that America has defaulted on this promissory note. Instead of honoring this sacred obligation, America has given We the People of Earth a bad check, a check which has come back marked "insufficient funds."
But I refuse to believe that America...and the rest of the world...is morally bankrupt. I refuse to believe that there are insufficient funds. And so, I've determined to cash this check...a check that will give Humanity...upon demand...the riches of freedom and the security of justice.
I have also determined to remind the world of the fierce urgency of Now. This is no time to engage in the luxury of cooling off or to take the tranquilizing drug of gradualism. Now is the time to make real the promises of Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom. Now is the time to rise from the dark and desolate valley of nationalism and protectionism. Now is the time to lift our world from the quicksands of war and hate...to the solid rock of brotherhood and sisterhood. Now is the time to make Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom a reality for all of God's children.
It would be fatal for We the People of Earth to overlook the urgency of the moment. This sweltering summer of Humanity's legitimate discontent will not pass until there is an invigorating autumn of freedom and equality. 2012 will not be the end...but a beginning. And those who hope that the patriots and conspiracy theorists needed to blow off steam and will now be content...will have a rude awakening if the world returns to business as usual. And there will be neither rest nor tranquility in the world until Humanity is granted it's citizenship rights. The whirlwinds of revolt will continue to shake the foundations of our world until the bright day of justice emerges.
But there is something that I must say to We the People of Earth...who stand on the warm threshold which leads into the palace of justice: In the process of gaining our rightful place in the universe...we must not be guilty of wrongful deeds. Let us not seek to satisfy our thirst for Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom by drinking from the cup of bitterness and hatred. We must forever conduct our struggle on the high plane of dignity and discipline. We must not allow our creative protest to degenerate into physical violence. Again and again, we must rise to the majestic heights of meeting physical force with soul force.
The marvelous new militancy which has engulfed Humanity must not lead us to a distrust of all of the Powers That Be...for many of them have come to realize that their destiny is tied up with our destiny. And they have come to realize that their freedom is inextricably bound to our freedom.
We cannot walk alone.
And as we walk, we must make the pledge that we shall always march ahead.
We cannot turn back.
There are those who are asking the devotees of Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom, "When will you be satisfied?" We can never be satisfied as long as any Human Being is the victim of the unspeakable horrors of brutality and starvation. We can never be satisfied as long as our bodies and minds are racked with the pain and horror of war. We cannot be satisfied as long as our children are stripped of their self-hood and robbed of their dignity by being taught violence, lies, and immorality. We cannot be satisfied as long as the will of We the people of Earth is not taken seriously...and followed. No, no, we are not satisfied, and we will not be satisfied until "justice rolls down like waters, and righteousness like a mighty stream."¹
I am not unmindful that some of you have encountered great trials and tribulations. Some of you have come fresh from narrow jail cells. And some of you have come from areas where your quest -- quest for freedom left you battered by the storms of persecution and staggered by the winds of brutality. You have been the veterans of creative suffering. Continue to work with the faith that unearned suffering is redemptive. Know that somehow this situation can and will be changed.
Let us not wallow in the valley of despair, I say to you today, my friends.
And so even though we face the difficulties of today and tomorrow, I still have a dream. It is a dream deeply rooted in the American dream.
I have a dream that one day this world will rise up and live out the true meaning of the creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal."
I have a dream that one day...the elites and the general public will sit down together at the table of brotherhood and sisterhood.
I have a dream that one day...even the Deep Underground Military Bases will be transformed into an oasis of openness and transparency.
I have a dream that one day...We the People of Earth will not be judged by our fame, fortune, and power...but by the content of our characters.
I have a dream today!
I have a dream that one day the little boys and little girls of the world...will be able to join hands...as Citizens of Earth.
I have a dream today!
I have a dream that one day every valley shall be exalted, and every hill and mountain shall be made low, the rough places will be made plain, and the crooked places will be made straight; "and the glory of the Lord shall be revealed and all flesh shall see it together."
This is our hope...and Earth is our home.
With this faith, we will be able to hew out of the mountain of despair a stone of hope. With this faith, we will be able to transform the jangling discords of our world into a beautiful symphony of brotherhood and sisterhood. With this faith, we will be able to work together, to pray together, to struggle together, to go to jail together, to stand up for freedom together, knowing that we will be free one day.
And this will be the day -- this will be the day when all of God's children will be able to sing with new meaning:
My country 'tis of thee, sweet land of liberty, of thee I sing.
Land where my fathers died, land of the Pilgrim's pride,
From every mountainside, let freedom ring!
If America is to be a great nation...this must become true. If Earth is to be a great planet...this must become true.
And so let freedom ring from Washington D.C.
Let freedom ring from the United Nations.
Let freedom ring from the City of London.
Let freedom ring from the Vatican.
Let freedom ring thoughout the Secret Government.
But not only that:
Let freedom ring from the Georgia Guidestones.
Let freedom ring from the Secret Space Program throughout the Solar System.
Let freedom ring from every Deep Underground Military Base.
Let freedom ring from the Sea of Tranquility.
From every Planet of the Solar System...let freedom ring.
And when this happens, when we allow freedom to ring, when we let it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and every planet, we will be able to speed up that day when all of God's children, of all races, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics, will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual:
Free at last! Free at last!
Thank God Almighty, we are free at last!
Is the division of territories into States rather than Worlds (or even Countries) significant? I think it is. Numerous States provide for a systematic and orderly decentalization. There might be a thousand States throughout the Solar System. If each of these States had independent militias/armies/uforces...it would be very difficult to impose Tyranny. If a significant outside threat arose...these independent forces would undoubtedly unite to oppose the outside threat. An outer perimeter uforce would be financed by the United States of the Solar System...and would defend against any external invasion of the Solar System...but would not be used to crack down on member States. I guess I'm trying to be a Minimalist Fundamentalist.
Here is something from the 1916 Congressional Record http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/verona.htm which is worth considering:
Senator Owen: I wish to put in the Record the secret treaty of Verona of November 22, 1822, showing what this ancient conflict is between the rule of the few and the rule of the many. I wish to call the attention of the Senate to this treaty because it is the threat of this treaty which was the basis of the Monroe doctrine. It throws a powerful white light upon the conflict between monarchical government and government by the people. The Holy Alliance under the influence of Metternich, the Premier of Austria, in 1822, issued this remarkable secret document:
SECRET TREATY OF VERONA
AMERICAN DIPLOMATIC CODE, 1778-1884, vol. 2; Elliott, p. 179.
The undersigned, specially authorized to make some additions to the treaty of the Holy Alliance, after having exchanged their respective credentials, have agreed as follows:
ARTICLE 1. The high contracting powers, being convinced that the system of representative government is equally as incompatible with the monarchical principles as the maxim of the sovereignty of the people with the divine right, engage mutually, in the most solemn manner, to use all that their efforts to put an end to the system of representative governments, in whatever county it may exist in Europe, and to prevent it being introduced in those countries where it is not yet known.
ARTICLE 2. As it can not be doubted that the liberty of the press is the most powerful means used by the pretended supporters of the rights of nations to the detriment of those of princes, the high contracting parties promise reciprocally to adopt all proper measures to suppress it, not only in their own States but also in the rest of Europe.
ARTICLE 3. Convinced that the principles of religion contribute most powerfully to keep nations in the state of passive obedience which they owe to their princes, the high contracting parties declare it to be their intention to sustain in their respective States those measures which clergy may adopt, with the aim of ameliorating their own interests, intimately connected with the preservation of the authority of the princes and the contracting powers join in offering their thanks to the Pope for what he has already done for them, and solicit his constant cooperation in their views of submitting the nations.
ARTICLE 4. The situation of Spain and Portugal unite unhappily all the circumstances to which this treaty has particular reference. The contracting parties, in confiding to France the care of putting an end to them, engaged to assist her in the matter which may the least compromit (sic) them with their own people and the people of France by means of a subsidy on the part of the two empires of 20,000,000 of francs every year from the date of the signature of this treaty to the end of the war.
ARTICLE 5. In order to establish in the Peninsula in the order of things which existed before the revolution of Cadiz, and to insure the entire execution of the articles of the present treaty, the high contracting parties give to each other the reciprocal assurance that as long as their views are not fulfilled, rejecting all other ideas of utility or other measure to be taken, they will address themselves with the shortest possible delay to all the authorities existing in their States and to all their agents in foreign countries, with the view to establish connections tending toward the accomplishment of the objects proposed by this treaty.
ARTICLE 6. This treaty shall be renewed with such changes as new circumstances may give occasion for, either at a new congress or at the court of one of the contracting parties, as soon as the war with Spain shall be terminated.
ARTICLE 7. The present treaty shall be ratified and the ratifications exchanged at Paris within the space of six months.
Made at Verona the 22nd November, 1822.
for Austria: METTERNICH
for France: CHATEAUBRIAND
for Prussia: BERNSTET
for Russia: NESSELRODE
I ask to have printed in the CONGRESSIONAL RECORD this secret treaty, because I think it ought to be called now to the attention of the people of the United States and of the world. This evidence of the conflict between the rule of the few verses popular government should be emphasized on the minds of the people of the United States, that the conflict now waging throughout the world may be more clearly understood, for after all said the great pending war springs from the weakness and frailty of government by the few, where human error is far more probable than the error of the many where aggressive war is only permitted upon the authorizing vote of those whose lives are jeopardized in the trenches of modern war.
Mr. SHAFROTH, Mr. President, I should like to have the senator state whether in that treaty there was not a coalition formed between the powerful countries of Europe to re-establish the sovereignty of Spain in the Republics of South and Central America?
Senator Owen: "I was just going to comment upon that, and I am going to take but a few moments to do so because I realize the pressure of other matters. This Holy Alliance, having put a Bourdon prince upon the throne of France by force, then used France to suppress the condition of Spain, immediately afterwards, and by this very treaty gave her a subsidy of 20,000,000 francs annually to enable her to wage war upon the people of Spain and prevent their exercise of any measure of the right of self-government.
The Holy Alliance immediately did not same thing in Italy, by sending Austrian troops to Italy, where the people there attempted to exercise a like measure of liberal constitutional self-government; and it was not until the printing press, which the Holy Alliance so stoutly opposed, taught the people of Europe the value of liberty that finally one country after another seized a greater and greater right of self-government, until now it may be fairly said that nearly all the nations of Europe have a very large measure of self-government. However, I wish to call the attention of the Senate to this important history in the growth of constitutional popular self-government.
The Holy Alliance made its powers felt by the wholesale drastic suppression of the press in Europe, by universal censorship, by killing free speech and all ideas of popular rights, and by the complete suppression of popular government."
"The Holy Alliance having destroyed popular government in Spain, and Italy, had well-laid plains also to destroy popular government in the American Colonies which had revolted from Spain and Portugal in Central and South America under the influence of the successful example of the United States."
"It was because of this conspiracy against the American Republics by the European monarchies that the great English statesman, Canning, called the attention of our government to it, and our statesmen then, including Thomas Jefferson, who was still living at that time, took an active part to bring about the declaration by President Monroe in his next annual message to the Congress of the United States that the United States would regard it as an act of hostility to the government of the United States and an unfriendly act, if this coalition, or if any power of Europe ever undertook to establish upon the American continent any control of any American republic, or to acquire any territorial rights."
"This is the so-called Monroe Doctrine. The threat under the secret treaty of Verona to suppress popular government in the American republics is the basis of the Monroe Doctrine. This secret treaty sets fourth clearly the conflict between monarchial government and popular government, and the government of the few as against the government on the many. It is a part, in reality, of developing popular sovereignty when we demand for women equal rights to life, to liberty, to the possession of property, to an equal voice in the making of the laws and the administration of the laws. This demand on the part of the women is made by men, and it ought to be made by men as well as by thinking, progressive women, as it will promote human liberty and human happiness. I sympathize with it, and I hope that all parties will in the national conventions give their approval to this larger measure of liberty to the better half of the human race".
(Senator Owen, Congressional Record 1916)
I'm not going to keep commenting on my own threads to try to generate interest. The ball is in your court. There are some other threads I wish to follow (some by BROOK and TRANCOSO)- but I think I'm done with my threads for the foreseeable future. This does not imply a lack of interest or a change of heart. I just don't wish to play the part of the crusader. I might try to visit the United Nations, Washington D.C., the City of London, and the Vatican once again (I visited them many years ago). I will continue to fantasize about being a part of a Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Solar System which includes the U.N., Washington D.C., the City of London, the Vatican, the Underground Bases, and the Secret Space Program - except that in my dreamworld there is no secrecy or corruption. Once again - I don't wish to fight the New World Order - I wish to HI-JACK IT!! 'Take me to Nirvana!!' I'd love to put the dream into practice - but I'm not going to push it right now. If someone wants to pick me up in a UFO, and take me to the Darkside of the Moon to meet with Lucifer - I'll be ready to go at a moments notice. What am I saying?
Whatever anyone thinks of me - I challenge ANYONE to produce a better six word (or less) model for solar system governance than a NAMASTE CONSTITUTIONAL RESPONSIBLE FREEDOM SOLAR SYSTEM. After the New World Order fails - someone might want to give them a try. Try working outward from this six word combination. Try doing this several times a day. Make numerous connections, applications, and extrapolations. This is more of an intellectual challenge than one might suppose. Also - one does not have to be in 'Who's Who' to know 'What's What'. Degrees, Titles, Incomes, Offices, Uniforms, Clearances, and Badges are merely crutches which small people use to delude themselves into thinking they are big people. Put that in your bong, and smoke it!
Are Satan, Lucifer, the Rothschilds, the Rockefellers, the Royal Family, and the Vatican the biggest seed-money rock stars on the planet - who are doing the most to make the world a better place? Trickle down theory voodoo economics? Where are the Billionaire Ghandi's? Jesus was pretty tough on rich people. Are billionaires the most socially responsible people on the planet? Did they gain their money through socially responsible activities? Can wealth become anticompetitive at some point? Should those with the most money have the greatest political clout? Should those with the gold - RULE? One of the greatest tragedies of history is the non compassionate use of accumulated wealth. I know that a lot of contactees and gurus are opposed to money - but I disagree. Money and private property are expressions of freedom. The problem with money is the irresponsible pursuit and use of money. Perhaps the billionaires should be placed under the scanning electron microscope to look for illegality and irresponsibility. Blood Money, Drug Money, and Destructive Money of All Kinds - should be repaid to society - with interest and penalties. I'm also not a big fan of ET Mentoring. Have the Gods, Goddesses, Angels, Archangels, ET's, and Ascended Masters been promoting Responsibility, Freedom, and Human Sovereignty (other than the Andromedans)? Boy - I sure got a lot out of my system - and I didn't even feel hostile. It must've been something I ate - or maybe the devil made me do it.
Having said all of the above - I'm getting tired of being an internet warrior. It seems to be a monumental waste of time. Remember what Jesus said about pearls and such? Money Talks and BS Walks. The Bottom Line is the Bottom Line. Winning Isn't Everything. It's the Only Thing. Perhaps the secret is to be a Humanitarian on the Surface - and a Shrewd and Ruthless SOB Below the Radar. Could the Worship of Fame, Fortune, and Power - rather than the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit - help to explain why the Corrupt Rule the Stupid? Is Greed Good? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7upG01-XWbY
I need to go for a long walk with my dog - and then perhaps I need to create a ten-year business plan. Who knows - in ten years I might have to change my tune and eat my words...
OK...I'm back from my walk...and I decided that the Corrupt Will Always Rule the Stupid - because both the Corrupt and the Stupid are happy with the arrangement - despite all outward appearances. Additionally - Both the Corrupt and the Stupid are Threatened by Non-Corrupt Highly Intelligent People - and will Fight Them Vigorously. Think about THAT... Perhaps this is why no one has REALLY followed the Red Letter Teachings of Jesus for 2,000 years - and why they probably never will... Narrow is the way. Read Revelation 20:12. Is December 21, 2012 really Judgement Day?
I'm on the verge of pusuing a business plan which is neither corrupt or stupid - and which will be executed in a manner which threatens neither the corrupt or the stupid. I may simply live a life of quiet decadence...and leave the corrupt and the stupid to their own devices...
I'm going to bump this thread (even though it's not the same as bumping on AV1) because I think the general topic of Solar System Governance is extremely important. I got the idea over a couple of decades - but Alex Collier probably was the one who opened my eyes more than anyone else. I doubt that I have this figured out to any significant degree - but I wish for literally millions of people worldwide to think about how this solar system should be properly run. Sometimes I think I'm not doing enough - and sometimes I think I sound like a broken record. I guess I'm trying to use some of the propaganda techniques of Joseph Goebbels (or Lucifer/Kali perhaps?) - like reducing an idea to it's simplist form - and then repeating it over and over again - despite the objections of the intellectuals. Unfortunately - at this point - not many people seem to give a rat's patootie about Solar System Governance (SSG). I guess we'll just keep getting $crewed by Megalomaniacs Anonymous and the New World Order. What fun!
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orthodoxymoron wrote:I just started rewatching the Alex Collier presentation at 'Awake and Aware' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR46QjXjLH0 - and his opening remarks hit me like ten tons of bricks - in light of the 'Tibet, Kali, and Trinity Goddess' thread. http://www.themistsofavalon.net/universal-lounge-f8/tibet-kali-and-the-trinity-goddess-t1019.htm Alex said that he didn't think the U.S. would disclose - and that disclosure might come from INDIA or CHINA!!!!!!!! Where is TIBET?????? My heart almost stopped. Now my heart is pounding!!!! Please, please, please watch all parts of the video series linked in the first post of this thread!!! Excuse me while I get my heart restarted!! CLEAR!!!! Hello Kali! Well Hello Kali!! You Devil You!!
Also - look at bravodawson - on YouTube - the one who posted 'The True Form of Lucifer' - which depicts Lucifer as being female. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6bWd_Kj0p0 bravodawson is from INDIA!!! The video was posted on December 21, 2007 - exactly five years before the infamous December 21, 2012!!! Is this just a coincidence??? This is the only video bravodawson has posted on YouTube - and they have posted no comments under this video (that I have noticed) - and they haven't visited their channel for a couple of years. Isn't this strange? Here is a comment/question I posted on bravodawson's channel one month ago:
"I never see you commenting on your Lucifer video. Or do you comment with another name? Living in India - have you considered the possibility of a connection between Kali - Lucifer - and the Black Madonna? What do people in India generally think about Lucifer? I believe in some sort of reincarnation - but I don't embrace Hinduism or the New Age. Which direction is India moving regarding politics and religion? What if all of us are right - and all of us are wrong? I endlessly speculate - but I know very little for certain. I ask this respectfully - 'Are you Lucifer?' Just thought I'd ask." No reply.
Here is a comment I posted on bravodawson's channel four months ago:
"I think you are on the right track...but I also think that Lucifer is a mixture of good and evil...a sort of a Dr. Jeckyll and Mr. Hyde. Watch 'V' on abc(dot)com if you can in India. I tend to think that Anna could be similar to the modern manifestation of Lucifer. Also consider that Lucifer is the Whore of Babylon (Deep Underground Military Bases?) and is in charge of the DUMB's, the Secret Government, and the Secret Space Program throughout the Solar System." No reply.
Is it just a coincidence that China owns so much U.S. debt? Is it any coincidence that India bought so much gold? But if illegal drug money, blood money, and tax dollars have been paying for a lot of the hypothetical Underground Empire - then who really owes who?
Does Kali - or a representative of Kali - appear prominently in the movie 'Contact'? Does Satan - or a representative of Satan - appear prominently in the movie 'Contact'? Does Jesus - or a representative of Jesus - appear prominently in the movie 'Contact'? Were there ET's (or equivalent) right in the White House in the movie 'Contact'? Has 'Contact' been ongoing - for thousands of years? Believe it or not - I think I may have seen Kali - or a representative of Kali - in a cathedral (I won't say which one!) - but it's probably a Hail Mary conjecture! Nuff said!
One more thing. I am pro-money. It is an expression of freedom - and an opportunity to reward responsibility - as well as providing the game-playing and fun of good old-fashioned competition. Responsible Greed is Good! It clarifies. Competition improves the breed. I am not in favor of socialism or communism. I am a born-again responsible capitalist. End the Fed!
One more thing. I am pro-physicality. I am addicted to orgasms! The human body is a miraculous creation - and I do not intend to leave my physicality - except between incarnations. Perhaps our genetics needs to be restored to it's original state - so that we live longer and use 100% of our brain capacities. Obviously there needs to be a harmonization of the physical and the spiritual.
One more thing. Haven't the ET's been mentoring us for thousands of years? Hasn't that been a big part of the problem?? Haven't the ET's been ruling the world for thousands of years? So why have things been so bad? Have they been teaching us RESPONSIBILITY? Have they been ruling us with RESPONSIBILITY?
One more thing. I am not anti-ET. I am not anti-hybrid. I am not even anti-Drac!! I even want to go out on a date with Lucifer (Kali?)!!!! I just want a Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Solar System aka The United States of the Solar System - based upon Responsibility and the U.S. Constitution. I have no problem with interacting with ET's and Hybrids - but they are not our gods and saviors - at least they shouldn't be. I want Lucifer (Kali?) to retire - and advise (not dictate) from a distance. Imagine Lucifer attending a U.N. meeting??!! "The power of Christ compels you to sit down and shut up!!" Just kidding Lucifer! Or is it Kali? Only her exorcist knows for sure!
'A little child shall lead them.' -- Isaiah 11:6 'I tell you the truth, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.' -- Matthew 18:3 I appreciate the ability to appreciate. "It is more blessed to appreciate than to pontificate." -- the angel orthodoxymoroni
Whatever the names and mythologies may be - I am looking for the man or woman behind the curtain. Was it Winston Churchill who said that 'the truth must be protected by a bodyguard of lies'? I am very skeptical regarding any naturally occurring 'Earth Changes' which kill thousands, millions, or billions of people. Why is all of this cr@p surfacing at this critical time in the spiritual evolution of the planet? I'm considering it to be more lies and manipulation. Problem - Reaction - Solution. If masses of humanity are exterminated - I will call it 'An Act of God' - the Wrong God - who is behaving like a hurt and cornered animal. Sorry Lucifer/Kali - I'm just calling it as I see it. Sorry if I got the names wrong - but I think I've got the concept nailed. That dragon demon exorcism was both revealing and chilling. What would abraxasinas say? I'm glad I decided not to eat my dragon! But it might've been cool to enter the Council of Thuban!
I'm really not kidding when I say that I am attempting to harmonize the U.S. Constitution, the Teachings of Jesus, and a Modified Latin Mass. To the man or woman behind the curtain - this would undoubtedly be anathema and damnable heresy - but I consider it to be both an orthodoxymoron and the wave of the future. It's got to be simple. It's got to be historical. It's got to have mass appeal. And it's got to make sense. The artistic and organizational aspects of the Roman Catholic Church are to be highly valued - but there is something very wrong at it's core - which goes much deeper than the Cardinals, the Curia, the Pope, the Jesuit General, Vatican I or Vatican II. Father Malachi Martin knew exactly what was wrong - and he hinted at it - but I think he could have told us so much more - if he had only lived longer. I think that many of the American Roman Catholics and the sedavacantists would agree. I am not a finger-pointing triumphalistic Protestant. I'm trying to figure out who really controls the City States, the United Nations, and the Secret Government. I'm not necessarily opposed to these organizations - but I am opposed to the evil which I sense is behind them - resulting in this present darkness.
I appreciate positive perspectives. They are usually very healing - and in fringe and conspiracy research - this is worth it's weight in yttrium. I tend to swing back and forth between positive and negative - and I tend to swing alone. I keep wondering 'How do we really know anything?' Knowing - and Thinking We Know - Are Two Very Different Things. I speculate a lot - but I usually add a disclaimer - and sometimes a warning. I usually ask questions - and a lot of them are provocative and irreverent. I guess I want other people to find truths of various kinds - rather than me thinking that I have the truth - and then circling the wagons to protect me and my precious truth - and then making a fast buck on the side. I'm really not trying to make friends - and it shows.
However - after having said all of the above - I really am trying to passively promote a Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Solar System aka The United States of the Solar System - based upon Responsibility and the U.S. Constitution. I've recently been trying to harmonize the Latin Mass with the Teachings of Jesus and the U.S. Constitution - as a part of this ongoing experimental project. Perhaps I have a little of your healing spirit Mudra. I really want things to be happy and peaceful - but I do not want peace at any price. I like listening to Sacred Music or Latin Masses while reading the Four Gospels (NKJV), the Federalist Papers and the Anti-Federalist Papers. This is so much different than Churchianity as Usual - or listening to Alex Jones (and I like Alex - but I can only take so much anger).
I've started trying to imagine what it would be like to travel on magneto-leviton trains to various Underground Bases throughout the world - which might include bases under the U.N., Washington D.C., the City of London, and the Vatican - and to travel throughout the solar system in unconventional spacecraft - to meet with various officials (human and otherwise), and attend various meetings - in a completely non-corrupt and non-secretive Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Solar System. I am painfully reminded on a daily basis - that I don't have what it takes to do such a thing - even if it were possible - so I have to use my imagination (as faulty as that is). I started to write a book about this - but it scared the hell out of me - so I stopped. Ignorance is bliss - even regarding the use of the imagination. Come to think of it - I'm living in a Dream-Land, Dream-World, or an Imagined-Nation. One Nation Under Construction.
Once again - I am a United Nations Country Club Constitutionalist (UNCCC) rather than a Shotgun and Constitution in my Truck Constitutionalist (SCTC). I'm simply visualizing a Responsibly Free Solar System - going forward for millions of years. The Creator God of the Universe might drop in from time to time - just to say 'hi'.
It just seems as though too many people write too many books - and once a book is written - the writer sort of gets boxed-in. There is something I like about just engaging in limited internet communication. In a sense - I am hoping that some of this reaches the right humans and non-humans who are making the key decisions which affect all of us. I really am envisioning a top down, bloodless non-revolution, to institute a Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Solar System aka The United States of the Solar System. I really don't want to make a whole lot of noise - and then fall flat on my face - because I don't know what the hell I'm doing. I'd rather just plant a few seeds here and there - and let those who are well placed - carry the ball. Great things can happen when one doesn't care who gets the credit. I'm trying to make money in some other ways - but so far I haven't been very successful. It's hard to concentrate when one is contemplating Angels, Demons, Satan, Lucifer, Gods, Goddesses, Star Wars, Wars in Heaven, Enslavement, Extermination, Reptilians, Greys, Mind-Control, Abductions, Genetic Hybridization Experiments, Revivification, Soul-Scalping, Colonization of the Solar System, Theocracy, Persecution, Torture, Corruption, Civil Unrest, Martial Law, Suspension of the U.S. Constitution, Super Soldiers, Six Hundred Thousand Year Wars, etc, ad infinitum, ad nauseum, ad absurdum, reductio ad absurdum...
I just re-read the first protocol of the so-called "Protocols of the Wise Men of Zion". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion I don't know if they are genuine or not - but what I read sounds all too familiar - that the stupid masses or goyim are incapable of handling freedom, and ruling themselves - and therefore must be ruled by force and deception - rather than by reasoning with them. I have heard this over and over again. Is this true - regardless of the source? I even recently concluded, in a state of discouragement, that the corrupt might very well rule the stupid, in perpetuity - because both are really happy with the arrangement - despite all outward appearances. Whatever the case may be - I continue to believe that We the Sheeple need to become much more knowledgeable and responsible - and at least pretend to be the New Elites. If my precious Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Solar System (or something similar to it) is ever to become a reality - we all need to be a helluva lot more awake, aware, and responsible - and that especially includes me. As I have stated before - I will continue to look more closely at Solar System Governance, the United Nations, Washington D.C., the City of London, the Vatican, the Secret Government, the Secret Space Program, and the Underground Bases - in a passive and non-hostile manner. I feel a lot more like being an uninvited and idealistic hidden-partner of the PTB - rather than being someone who is fighting with them. Having said that - I will continue to blurt things out, as I encounter new insights and thoughts - and I will continue to place my foot in my mouth, and step on my...never mind....
Has anyone read 'The Federalist Papers' or 'The Anti-Federalist Papers'? They are amazingly detailed and deep. Why can't a thread such as this one proceed in a similar manner? Why isn't Solar System Govenance one of the most important topics, if not the most important topic, that we can possibly discuss? This thread seems to be dead in the water (just like on AV1). I think we're missing the boat BIG TIME. Conduit Closing.I guess I'm sold on a solar system view - as opposed to a world view. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pfwY2TNehw I'm just trying to identify with those who run the City States, United Nations, Underground Bases, Secret Space Program, and Secret Government - as sort of a silent and uninvited insider observer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IvPIWzQcUY I really don't wish to fight with these people - even though I do wish to change just about everything connected with these institutions and activities. Think Galactically. Act Locally. The Queen of Heaven is presently a person or being of interest to me - in both positive and negative ways. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahjPQjQGdbU Perhaps it is productive to think big and small - simultaneously. I'm really just trying to understand the power structure in this solar system. I think power is way over-rated - but that it is still important to understand how it works. I once told someone that God had a lousy job - but that someone had to do it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6eTbhHE0jM They looked at me like I was crazy. I was crazy - and I am crazy. I can't even run my own life - so I'll be damned if I'll try to run anyone elses life. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyTJqn7GT5s We've only just begun. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvBCl3CBMXA It just might be morning in the solar system. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWnmCu3U09wAnchor wrote:Solar governance?
Gotta learn to walk before running.....
Self governance would be a start!
The Nephilim are mysterious and illusive. Who knows who or what really goes bump in the night and runs the world? I'm just presently focusing on a hypothetical Anna-like Queen of Heaven - as being the focal point of solar system administration. I obviously know very, very little about this subject - but I'm tired of being kept in the dark and lied to - so I'm stumbling through this minefield like a bull in a china closet. God help us.
Is there a beautiful side of evil? I am reminded of a book by Johanna Michaelsen, titled 'The Beautiful Side of Evil'. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl0U8aA7vEM My point in all of this is that I think there may be a very real Queen of Heaven, who is a mixture of good and evil, and who is very, very intelligent - but who can be a real mother when she gets ticked-off. I'm obviously playing with some very hot fire - and I will probably get my fingers burned - right up to my armpits. When I finally get the real answers (if I ever do) - I'll probably be very, very sorry that I ever asked all of the questions. I really don't think I know what the heck I'm dealing with. I just think that we are in so much trouble, that the non-elites may have to be involved in trying to find solutions. Hope springs eternal - but I'm frankly not expecting too much.
Perhaps we should have a Solar System Constitution Contest. I might be completely wrong regarding Solar System Governance - but where are the rival proposals? Where is the vigorous discussion and debate? This seems to be a dead issue. Dead in the water. Why is this? I'm going to spend a lot of time on the Bill Cooper, Commander X, and Branton thread - which I think has a lot to do with this thread. http://www.themistsofavalon.net/universal-lounge-f8/bill-cooper-commander-x-and-branton-t1098.htm I like to think that Bill Cooper, Commander X, and Branton would approve of a Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom United States of the Solar System.
Beauty sometimes hides the beast. I believed what the inspired and holy religious leaders told me about the inspired and sacred texts - but I found out that a lot of it was BS. I also found out that a lot of the New Age is BS. This thread is all about finding an alternative to all of the BS. I want the BS to stop NOW.Mercuriel wrote:orthodoxymoron wrote:beauty sometimes hides the beast.
As well as It "Soothes the Savage Beast..."
We must have both to Integrate them and appreciate a Third.
So...do we need the bad side of Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, and Anna (in 'V')? I'm simply trying to rid this solar system of hatred, violence, wars, atrocities, terrorism, starvation, demonic harassment, demonic possession, ecological nightmares, holy wars, extermination events, planned financial collapses, rigged stock markets, slavery of all kinds, etc, etc, etc. I don't think we need any of these things to complement the beauty of Earth and it's inhabitants. I really like the good side of Anna (in 'V'). I really like the spiritual leader of the Navi in 'Avatar'. I really like Rachael (the foxy lady in charge at the White House) in 'Contact' - but I don't see the need for a bad side or any negatives whatsoever. I just wish for this solar system to be run rationally and properly, going forward, for millions of years. This goal seems to require simple and effective principles and concepts - in the context of a simple and effective constitution - which avoids placing too much power in too few hands. I obviously don't know what's really going on in this solar system - but something is very, very, very wrong - and it needs to be fixed. I'm just trying to generate interest and discussion regarding solar system governance. Is it wrong to live in the dreamworld of a perfected humanity living in a perfected solar system? I'm not necessarily sold on the 'treat them like children, teach them to take baby steps, and to kneel in contrite submission' theory of civilization growth and development. I really do think we need a solar system view, and that we ALL need to contemplate Solar System Governance, on an ongoing basis. I am opposed to rule by secrecy, deception, confusion, corruption, force, and violence. I'll just keep ranting and raving on the internet. I don't intend to do anything more than this. Hopefully - somewhere in the galaxy - this activity is being duly noted and studied - to hopefully help someone at some future date - to implement proper planetary governance. Again - I don't have the answers - but I do wish to prompt those who are in positions of authority and power - to consider some of the concepts which surface in these threads.I really like this Lao Russel interview - especially in the beautiful and elegant surroundings of her home. We do need love and cooperation to create a kinder and gentler world. However - I do believe that the meat of love is responsibility (the decision to make the problems of the world - my problems). This is where things get messy. In fact - this is a war. We tend to get in each others way - and we often work at cross purposes - whether intentionally or unintentionally. Perhaps I really need to let this mini-crusade go - at this point - and hope that someone else picks it up - so that it's not my great big deal. Perhaps a millionaire or billionaire could host a Solar System Constitution Contest - with a $1,000,000.00 prize for the winner. Now THAT would generate interest!mudra wrote:orthodoxymoron wrote:Perhaps we should have a Solar System Constitution Contest. I might be completely wrong regarding Solar System Governance - but where are the rival proposals? Where is the vigorous discussion and debate?
I believe we will first have to bring peace within ourselves , our families , our communities , our countries , our Earth before we can contemplate beyond.
Lao Russel was an inspiring person
Love from me
mudra
Perhaps evil alternatives can be modeled with a supercomputer program - so that we can learn about them - without having to live them. I think I'm going to exit stage right - and give it a rest for a while - while I go through all of the material on the Bill Cooper thread. I like listening to his old shows - and I like reading the Branton material. I have no idea how much of it is true - but it is interesting to consider the possibilities. Even though the subjects are important - all of this often feels like a monumental waste of time. I wish we got paid to wade through everything! I think that a Secret Solar System Government presently exists - and that in ten years there will be an Open Solar System Government - if anyone and anything is left....
I looked high and low, but I couln't find my original guidestone - so I tried to duplicate it below. If I find the original - I will modify this one - although I think they are nearly identical.
ORTHODOXYMORON GUIDESTONE:
1. BASE THIS SOLAR SYSTEM UPON RESPONSIBILITY AND THE U.S. CONSTITUTION.
2. MAINTAIN AN EARTH HUMAN POPULATION OF FOUR BILLION (TWO BILLION SURFACE - TWO BILLION SUBSURFACE) AND FOUR BILLION THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE SOLAR SYSTEM (MOSTLY SUBSURFACE).
3. BASE PHYSICAL, MENTAL, AND SPIRITUAL HEALTH UPON PREVENTION.
4. MAINTAIN A PRISTINE ENVIRONMENT.
5. USE ELECTRICAL POWER FOR NEARLY EVERYTHING, AND UTILIZE MAGNETO-LEVITON TRAINS FOR MOST GLOBAL TRANSPORTATION.
It sounds as though we deal with the visible PTB (who we love and hate), who take orders from the bloodline elites, who take orders from mysterious and nepharious entities, who take orders from who knows who? I keep feeling as though we are prisoners of an ancient star war - and that we are serving some type of a sentence. What troubles me, is that even if we do become responsible (or try to be responsible) - it seems as if we are destined to remain in jail. The law of the universe seems to be that the Human Race on Planet Earth cannot and will not be allowed to succeed - and that they will not be allowed to become responsibly free - no matter what. Perhaps the Original Sin was the Unpardonable Sin. This seems to be all about being beat into reverential submission by the chastenings of the lord - as sinners in the hands of an angry god. Did Promethius steal fire from this god? Did we all go along with Promethius? Is that why we are here - and why we are in so much trouble?
Promethius = Lucifer = Kali = Mary = Anna (in "V")? What if the gods were problematic and disfunctional? What if Promethius/Lucifer/Kali/Mary/Anna was/were/are/is problematic and disfunctional? Is there a solution to the madness? Regardless of what really happened, and regardless of what is happening presently, why is there so much secrecy, deception, corruption, violence, and insanity? Why are legitimate and well-meaning attempts at understanding and reform, met with such coldness and even hostility? "Semiramis became known as the "queen of heaven," and was the prototype from which all other pagan goddesses came."--World Religions by David Terrell This quote probably belongs elsewhere - but it does support the 'all of us are one' theory of historical solar system governance. I'm seeing a single entity as being the being in charge of this neck of the woods - going back thousands, or tens of thousands, of years.
I've been wondering a lot about the true nature of the soul - and wondering about the true extent of any hybridization programs - historically and presently. What if the human soul is a shapeshifting interdimensional reptilian? Could this be why we have a reptilian part of our brains? Could this really be the biggest secret? Are all of us hybrids - in one way or another? Are Dracs really human/reptile hybrids - with an exceptionally high percentage of reptile genetics? Are everyday humans really human/reptile hybrids - with a very low percentage of reptile genetics? I once knew an ivy league graduate who told me that they were a talking snake. Some of my best friends have turned out to be snakes. I'm considering the possibility that humans of all races, reptilians, greys, hybrids, and aliens of all races - have the same type of soul. Whether this type of soul is human, reptilian, hybrid, none of the above, or all of the above - may be one of the most explosive questions which we could possibly grapple with. In his 1994 interview with Rick Keefe - Alex Collier indicated that our souls were the same - and that they originated at the same time - but that we were at different stages of evolution. I hope I got that right. I need to watch that interview again. Let me know if I missed something - or if Alex (or anyone else) has commented elsewhere on this subject.
It seems reasonable to me to at least begin with the view that this solar system is our home (regardless of ancient star wars and battles for control of this and that) - and that we just keep reincarnating (as we require new bodies) back into this solar system - and that this solar system may be as good as it gets - anywhere. I'm considering any extermination events (natural or inflicted) and mass evacuations (by UFO's, the Second Coming of Christ, etc.) to be bad things. Bringing reason and peace to this solar system seems reasonable to me. Has the Queen of Heaven been trying to do this for thousands of years? OR - has the Queen of Heaven been misusing and abusing this solar system and it's inhabitants for thousands of years? I keep seeing corruption and insanity as being unavoidably connected with absolute power - despite the best of intentions - which is why I wish for this hypothetical Queen of Heaven to retire - and serve as an advisor rather than a ruler. Sorry for being repetitious - but I will continue to test this hypothesis in different settings. I think we are all in Purgatory - and that it is up to us whether we progress into Heaven - or digress into Hell. We make our bed - and sleep in it. Our planet is how we plan it. World without end.
If your hair isn't already standing on end from reading this post - then read this link - and you should receive a permanent afro. http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:_RZhCsbJQ58J:illuminati-news.com/Word/Betweenthedevilandtheincomingrock.doc+betweenthedevilandtheincomingrock.doc&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=safari
Here is the part which I found to be especially interesting:
"Governance, as opposed to security, appears to not have been a major issue from the ’79 meeting to the present. The emerging picture concerning governance painted by informant words indicates that the USG continued business as usual both vertically – from the executive apex of the presidency, through its federal departments and agencies, to the state governments in the union – and horizontally – the foreign policy apparatus of the USG continued functioning as expected through its State and Defense departments. What did change was the sense of constituent security – that is, USG had to formally contend with the presence of two Anunnaki camps in conflict with one another, and the additional requirement of dealing with both. The meaning of security also appears to have undergone a subtle, yet quite real metamorphosis. We will briefly discuss this transformation below.
"It is evident from the literature (Good 1988, 1993; 1996, 1999; Maccabee 2000; Dolan 2000; Bryant 2002; Marrs 1998; Salla 2006; Corso 1997) that there is considerable belief based on evidence – some of questionable reliability, and some on verifiable validity – that the USG is involved in a massive cover up of anything from the existence of aliens, alien technologies, technology transfers to the private sector and more. While the focus of this essay is only on Anunnaki affairs and their impact on Earth governance, internal security, near Earth space security and Anunnaki inter-clan conflict, informants have also provided some information on contacts with “aliens” from outside the solar system (e.g., the Angleton tapes and the SERPA TS/SCI referred to by Collins and Doty 2005). This appears to reflect a reframing of how USG views the Anunnaki vis-ā-vis “the real aliens” (Six 2005). Our current hypothesis is that Anunnaki are currently viewed as “ancestors, not really aliens, but more like people who are like us, probably because they were here before the human race appeared on Earth through them” (Six 2005). This makes sense to us, since we were asked more than once to clarify our questions regarding “aliens” from the “incoming”. Is it that at present lead agencies regard this as a “local” event requiring a “local event response set”? It would seem so. This worldview on Anunnaki presence on Earth would also fit in with the seeming working definition of “those who are here and those from the incoming” as a “local problem” (Six 2005; Eight 2005).
"How, then, has the issue of governance been affected by the double Anunnaki presence since the ’79 meeting? One of the seeming results of the formalized infrastructure specific to this situation is the insulation of the White House from the appearance of real access to UFO information. Two examples of this approach are the handling of the Rockefeller initiative during the Clinton administration (i.e., the involvement of assets said to be with CIA at the time and the White House deft use of UFO/alien humor) in deflecting one of the most delicate exopolitical crisis faced by President Clinton; the other is the style and tenor used by the Bush-43 administration: silence. The Anunnaki seem to have forced the USG into a space security structure responsive to two exopolitical constituencies. This is reflected “in the way things get handled,” said Informant Eight. “Looks like everything political is handled by the [National Space] Council and the Vice President as chair. This is where the two tracks originate. One umbrella for TS/SCIs handling the incoming, another umbrella for TS/SCI dealing with those here, and the twain shall never meet. NGA looks like it works with both tracks, but it really is controlled by the other czar for space security. This is one of the most secret functions, “cause from what I can tell, this person is the Executive Officer of the whole space security apparatus” (Eight 2005)."
I posted the following on the abraxasinas Q&A in March. Was I unfair or unkind? I have worried about this post a lot since I posted it. Was it too hard? Was it too soft? Was it uninformed and illogical? All of this is sort of an ongoing science fiction novel. This is a guessing game, and a bluffing game. It's a game of make believe. It's a galactic game of monopoly. Please tell me what you think about this.
I'm not sure where the proper balance point is in all of this. I'm seeking a rock-solid foundation. I do not wish to build on sinking sand...but there will obviously be many false-starts and misunderstandings as I try to find my way...and my voice. I'm tempted to attempt writing about the United States of the Solar System http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=15878 with a writing style similar to abraxasinas. I realize that I can't come close to accomplishing such a feat...but I can try...can't I? This is new territory for me. I'm ashamed that I don't know more about that which I am espousing...but I'm even more ashamed that very few of us seem to give a rat's patootie about how this Solar System is run.
Have our negotiators been duped over and over again...by essentially demonic entities? I wonder. The 1954 Greada Treaty (if it really exists) was a mistake...wasn't it? But I'm sure we had TOP people...who were on top of everything...and had everything under control...RIGHT? Just like we have TOP people...who have everything under control...at this very moment...RIGHT? Don't get me wrong...I am an overly accomodating and gullible person. I'm the kind of person who hates to swat a fly. I don't wish to harm anyone or anything...even demonic entities. But I don't want various aliens, spirits, whoever, or whatever...enslaving and exterminating us...or making life miserable for all of us. I think we have been lied to and manipulated for thousands (or even millions) of years by various entities and beings. We're not as smart as we think we are...when it comes to dealing with these entities and beings. Again...I wish them no harm. But perhaps my 'where there's life...there's hope' bias is what has gotten us into a lot of trouble for a long, long time. Somehow...we need to deal with this thing here and now...and not let it drag on (dragon -get it?!) for thousands and millions of years into the future. We are kept in the dark about Universal History...and regarding who we really are. Yet...we then get chided for being the 'New Kids on the Block' who need to evolve so we can join all of the superior beings throughout the Universe. I'm sick of this BS. Throughout history...right up to this very day...I am not seeing a reasonable and rational approach to Solar System Governance. I'm seeing 'Divide and Conquer'...'Keep Them Confused and Fighting With Each Other'...and 'Keep Them Ignorant and Stupid'. I'm as mad as hell. I've had enough. And I'm not going to take this anymore. Can you feel the love tonight?
The eschatological paradigms are mostly negative and violent. I envision continuity in perpetuity in Sol. I'm not moving away from this Solar System. This is my home. Sun. Fun. Stay. Play. This is my sand-box...and the playground attendants are poised to expel the bullies from our little paradise. This Solar System is the Theater of the Universe. The implications and ramifications of Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom...in the context of the Constitution of the United States of America and the Bill of Rights...in the context of the United Nations...and applied to the entire Solar System...are enormous. I stand in opposition to the corrupt Powers That Be...both Terrestrial and Extraterrestrial...and demand that the United States of the Solar System be implemented with all deliberate speed...and that a Solar System Exorcism commence immediately. In the words of Moses "Let My People Go!" I perceive that We the People of Earth are Prisoners of War...on a Prison Planet...with Grey Guards...and a Reptilian/Human Hybrid Warden...Taking Orders From a Draconian Reptilian God of This World. This is an intolerable state of affairs...and must not be allowed to stand. I hereby request that the non-corrupt Beings of the Universe assist We the People of Earth for a very brief period of time...as we know it...to implement the reforms outlined throughout this thread devoted to the United States of the Solar System. http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=15878 Thanks and Gratitude in Advance.
I completely and vehemently reject the following Thuban quotation found in ANNO DOMINI DRAGONIA UNO: INTRODUCTION TO DRAGONHOOD http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=18900&highlight=orthodoxymoron+threads&page=3 (This book is written in the Dragonian language and requires familiarity and intitiation into the structural forms or the forked tongue of Its bifurcation of Unicornian grammar and omniscientific terminology.) "It is however the great destiny of the humanoids to aspire to Dragonhood, because of their immense emotional energy potential and mental aspirations. The reunification of our Father with our Mother allows our Masterdragons, Who are as One in 26 dimensions to femtotechnically Seed the Omniverse as THEMSELVES and then reproduce THEMSELVES as Universes. Every such universe is a Monosong and a 26-dimensional dyad of a FatherMother. This is our Creative Destiny and the destiny for all dragonised humans aka the starhumans."
THIS IS NOT THE DESTINY OF WE THE PEOPLE OF EARTH. BETTER DEAD THAN REP. OUR DESTINY IS RESPONSIBLE FREEDOM AS A SOVEREIGN HUMANITY.
I'm going to gradually take off the gloves regarding this Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Solar System aka The United States of the Solar System concept. I think this is a splendiferous idea - regardless of the spiritual and alien situation. The concept does not require me to definitively and accurately sort out who the good-guys and bad-guys are. I simply wish to implement this concept in an evolutionary manner - with EVERYONE on the bus - even if they hate each other - and even if some of them are really, really evil. The really b@d@$$ dudes and dudesses may need to go to jail for a while - BUT NOBODY IS GOING TO BE DAMNED TO HELL!! I desire a big-tent solution - but I do not desire peace at any price. The concept should probably be firmly implemented to avoid confusion - but no one should be treated unkindly or unfairly. System implementation is that which is important - and dictatorial micro-management should NOT occur. We should probably continue the infowar for centuries - but without destroying ourselves. The concept involves an organized decentralization. I like the architectural and artistic aspects of the old world - but the internal modus operandi needs to be Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom. There is a unified architecture and art in the churches and state-houses of the world. The original plan connected with this may have been fatally flawed - but we should enjoy the architectural and artistic excellence as we pursue a unified yet free humanity. This is going to involve a very problematic transitional process - but it need not be traumatic. Does this post go too far - too soon? Baby steps - right? This really continues to be a test. I am interested to see who comes out of the woodwork in support of, and in opposition to, the concept. What would the Incoming say? What would Anna say? What would the Queen of Heaven say? What would the Creator God of the Universe say? What would Satan say? What would SaLuSa say? What would Monka do? What would Jesus do?Thank-you Mercuriel. You make very good points. Do what you have to do. First things first. I'm sure there are many, throughout the solar system, who are working toward more rational governance at all levels. I'm probably trying to change myself, more than I'm trying to change others. I continue to experience debilitating and progress hampering problems - which make me feel virtually ineffectual and very frustrated. Hence the tone of my internet posting. An inferiority complex probably gives me a 'little-guy' attitude. This is actually quite sad - but hopefully something good can be derived from it - either now, or in the future. I was serious when I said that I hoped that this activity was being duly noted somewhere in the galaxy. I fear that we are headed down the wrong road, and that we will not turn back, regardless of the warnings, and regardless of the rantings and ravings of lunatics such as myself. I really wish that I had a shallow underground civilian base to go down into. At this point - I am ready to go down - and stay down - for a long, long time.Mercuriel wrote:Oxy - I have downloaded the additional A.R. Bourdon & Eric Julien Material...
I will read the Material tonight and have comments for You tomorrow. As I have said before - What makes You think You're the only One interested in Solar System Governance...
Many are (And are working hard towards It) but We must get Planetary Governance straightened out first. That said - The Machine Gun cresecendo of the pace of Your questioning is remarkable and appreciated Dear Brother.
That said - I will endeavour to be worthy of It. If only My Twin Flame wasn't in such need ATM - I could do better than I have. Owell - This will change...
Raven wrote:orthodoxymoron wrote: I was serious when I said that I hoped that this activity was being duly noted somewhere in the galaxy. I fear that we are headed down the wrong road, and that we will not turn back, regardless of the warnings, and regardless of the rantings and ravings of lunatics such as myself. I really wish that I had a shallow underground civilian base to go down into. At this point - I am ready to go down - and stay down - for a long, long time.
Indeed Oxy, duly noted it is. You will not be alone hiding under those rocks.
Rev.6 KJV
[12] And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
[13] And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
[14] And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
[15] And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
[16] And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
[17] For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
I prefer the eschatology in the Synoptic Gospels (Matthew 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21). I have problems with the Book of Revelation. Even though I wish to seek cover from civil unrest, nuclear war, chemical and biological warfare, an 'alien' invasion, etc. - I don't wish for the rocks to fall upon me - and I do wish to look him that sitteth upon the throne - straight in the eye - and tell them to get off of their high-horse and to stop the mass-murder - and for the Lamb to calm the f#$k down. VIOLENCE IS NOT A SOLUTION - EVEN IF YOU ARE GOD - THINK YOU ARE GOD - OR ARE ACTING LIKE GOD. EARTH CHANGES MY @$$. SINNERS IN THE HANDS OF A LOVING GOD?
Having said that - I would like to know the full extent and nature of the Original Sin - and whether all of us were a party to it, or not. But regardless of how bad the sins of the past have been - shouldn't there be a peaceful and rational resolution of the madness? Why do we always rush toward violent 'solutions'? Those who quote from the Book of Revelation often seem to exhibit a morbid satisfaction connected with the expected extermination - which couldn't possibly include themselves.
'As he looked up, Jesus saw the rich putting their gifts into the temple treasury. He also saw a poor widow put in two very small copper coins. "I tell you the truth," he said, "this poor widow has put in more than all the others. All these people gave their gifts out of their wealth; but she out of her poverty put in all she had to live on." Some of the disciples were remarking about how the temple was adorned with beautiful stones and with gifts dedicated to God. But Jesus said, "As for what you see here, the time will come when not one stone will be left on another; every one of them will be thrown down." "Teacher," they asked, "when will these things happen? And what will be the sign that they are about to take place?" He replied: "Watch out that you are not deceived. For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am he,' and, 'The time is near.' Do not follow them. When you hear of wars and revolutions, do not be frightened. These things must happen first, but the end will not come right away." Then he said to them: "Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be great earthquakes, famines and pestilences in various places, and fearful events and great signs from heaven.' But before all this, they will lay hands on you and persecute you. They will deliver you to synagogues and prisons, and you will be brought before kings and governors, and all on account of my name. This will result in your being witnesses to them. But make up your mind not to worry beforehand how you will defend yourselves. For I will give you words and wisdom that none of your adversaries will be able to resist or contradict. You will be betrayed even by parents, brothers, relatives and friends, and they will put some of you to death. All men will hate you because of me. But not a hair of your head will perish. By standing firm you will gain life. When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you will know that its desolation is near. Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country not enter the city. For this is the time of punishment in fulfillment of all that has been written. How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! There will be great distress in the land and wrath against this people. They will fall by the sword and will be taken as prisoners to all the nations. Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled. There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea. Men will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken. At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near." He told them this parable: "Look at the fig tree and all the trees. When they sprout leaves, you can see for yourselves and know that summer is near. Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that the kingdom of God is near. I tell you the truth, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away. Be careful, or your hearts will be weighed down with dissipation, drunkenness and the anxieties of life, and that day will close on you unexpectedly like a trap. For it will come upon all those who live on the face of the whole earth. Be always on the watch, and pray that you may be able to escape all that is about to happen, and that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man." Each day Jesus was teaching at the temple, and each evening he went out to spend the night on the hill called the Mount of Olives, and all the people came early in the morning to hear him at the temple.' Luke 21 NIV
Luke chapter 21 contains basic soteriology, or how we are saved, and basic eschatology, or a study of the end of time. If you don't know what eschatology is…it's not the end of the world! Jesus proclaims that by standing firm, we will gain life. Again and again, Jesus ties salvation to behavior…not simply belief! On the other hand, belief is the beginning of behavior. By beholding Christ we become changed! Visualize Jesus…and world-peace. Give Jesus and peace a chance. The Luke 21 end time scenario contains enough upsetting information for just about anyone! If you want to become really upset and confused, read the books of Daniel and Revelation! There are numerical challenges here as well, if you're into numbers games! It seems that the end here depicted by Jesus was to occur shortly after His death…not 2,000 years later! Could it be that the followers of Jesus fumbled the ball? Were the words of Jesus preached with power throughout the world after His death? Did someone circumvent the Great Commission, thinking they knew better? Have the Teachings of Jesus been placed first and foremost in Christian churches during the past 2,000 years? Are the words of Christ being placed first and foremost in Christian churches now? Could it be that the Teachings of Jesus have been purposefully and systematically suppressed and relegated to the back of the bus? Will humanity have to wait another 2,000 years for the return of Christ? World without end?
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I'm increasingly thinking of the 'Illuminati and Other Elites' as being 'Corrupted Errand Boys and Girls in the Middle of a Nasty Galactic Civil War'. They might ultimately answer to one or more very powerful Reptilian Queen(s). I have no idea what the real deal is regarding Solar System Governance, but I've been poking and prodding for at least a couple of years now -- with very mixed results. If Humanity is a Recent Subset of an Ancient Reptilian Race -- there might be several Reptilian Factions fighting over what happens to Humanity. Looking at Everything from All Angles, Always -- is a good thing -- but it takes a lot of work, and it doesn't necessarily win friends. When one takes both sides, you often end-up getting beat-up by both sides. I feel as if this is presently happening to me -- and I'm running for cover. It's the creepy and violent aspects of the PTB which especially trouble me -- but I don't object to having wise and powerful 'advisors' lurking in the shadows -- who speak when spoken to. The seemingly 'Infant' Human Race seems to be on some sort of a 'Galactic Hit-List' -- and the Illuminati and Other Elites seem to be assisting the Galactic PTB in carrying out the 'Hit'. I so hope that I'm wrong. I so want everything to be loving and happy -- but I'm not holding my breath -- waiting for Hell to freeze over. It Seems As Though the Bastards That Be Will Precipitate World War Three -- Whether Anyone Wants It Or Not -- With or Without the New World Order. The BTB Seem to Want Us Dead. Period. If there is indeed, an Orion-Sirius-Egyptian-Roman Empire -- administered in this solar system by a Reincarnating Osiris-Isis-Horus-Set Royal Family -- with ALL NUCLEAR PROGRAMS under Central Control -- how might we properly understand the latest episodes of 'Managed Insanity'? What if we are dealing with Osiris as the Powerful God the Father? What if Horus is a rebellious, disowned, disenfranchised, disempowered God the Son? What if Isis has somewhat ambitiously and ruthlessly ruled the Earth (while attempting to hold the 'Family' together? What if Set is sinister, opportunistic, adventuresome (and very polite) -- and is now in conflict with just about everyone -- in sort of a standoff situation? What if Horus is still on the outside -- and doesn't know what the hell is going on? Stay tuned for the latest episode of 'East of Giza'. If any of this is true -- this is so sad, that it's actually funny. But then I have a really twisted sense of humor. I've learned to laugh and cry -- simultaneously.
What if we are really dealing with a monumental galactic power-struggle to control the Universal Church Theocracy? What if the Roman Catholic Church is the Local Branch of this hypothetical Universal Church Theocracy? What if the RCC is a punishing and controlling version of a very positive church-state model? We need to be VERY careful to NOT throw out the baby with the bathwater. As I poke and prod -- I continue to contemplate working with Idealized and Reformed versions of the Monarchy, Papacy, Illuminati, Nazis, Masons, Jesuits, et al. That might not be PC, but I don't really care. I'm trying to put the brakes on my speculation and posting. I'm frankly intending to spend a lot of time watching the BBC News -- even though I live in the United States. All Roads Lead to Rome -- but the Nerve Center might very well reside somewhere within England, the Moon, Sirius, and Orion. What if Lilith was a Reptilian Queen aka Archangel (Michael?) who was responsible for the 'creation' or 'genetic-engineering' of Male and Female Human Beings (with Interdimensional Reptilian Souls) aka 'Adam and Eve' -- and offered them Responsible Freedom rather than Absolute Obedience? What if 33.33% of the Interdimensional Reptilians aka Angels chose to leave their Hermaphrodite Reptilian Physicality and enter Male and Female Human Physicality? What if this was the 'Fall', the 'Original and Unpardonable Sin' -- and the cause of the 'War in Heaven'? What if the soul of Lilith later reincarnated as various key historical figures -- both male and female? What if two rival Archangels remained in Hermaphrodite Reptilian physicality -- and have been fighting against Humanity for a very long time? What if the Quest of the Historical Jesus leads all the way back to Lilith? What if Michael = Second in Command = Lilith = Enki = Lucifer = Hathor = Isis = Queen of Heaven = King David = Various Pharaohs = Jesus = Michelangelo = ???? (among others)? Don't crucify me for suggesting this. As you know, I am freely sharing my speculations with anyone who might be interested. I don't spread this sort of thing anywhere beyond this website. I'm toying with the concept of Three Key Reptilian Queens from Orion and/or Sirius -- fighting for power in this solar system -- and possibly beyond. I have absolutely no idea if this is true -- and I mean absolutely no disrespect to anyone or any belief system. I'm more conservative and more liberal than you can imagine. I haven't been in a mad rush to discover the truth. I could go about this quest in a much more efficient manner. I have chosen to go slow and informal -- for who knows what reasons. I know not what I do. I don't recommend the mental-modeling I engage in. I don't proselytize. I don't even try to make a fast buck (although I probably should). This is just more Political and Theological Science-Fiction -- which I try to make as reality-based as possible -- yet I offer abundant disclaimers and no guarantees. But really, contemplate the possibility of an Ancient Universe with an Ancient Race of Non-Human Beings -- with Ancient Traditions. Then, imagine a smart and ambitious Reptilian Queen who tries to 'improve' things -- Genetically and Governmentally -- and starts a Huge Galactic Holy War. Is this any more farfetched than most of the theories and theologies? Believe it or not, I am attempting to make Christianity work. I am attempting to defend Christianity in a VERY unorthodox manner. I couldn't do this sort of thing as a clergyperson or professor of theology. At one point, I thought I wanted to be a televangelist -- but I'm glad I didn't go down that road -- although I think it would've been a blast. What if one interprets the Old Testament in terms of Ancient Reptilian Race v Infant Human Race? The Bible should probably be an integral part of alternative and esoteric research -- regardless of whether one believes in God or not. God might not believe in us -- and possibly for legitimate reasons. Just more speculation.
I guess the Absolute Truth for Me is Responsibility. A close second is probably the Scientific Method. Considering and testing a variety of theories and speculations is an integral part of the scientific method. I lack the resources to adequately follow-through on my questions and speculations -- but I trust that there are others -- both friend and foe -- who have the ability to do so -- and that some actually exercise this ability -- for better or worse. Once again, I consider most of my activities to be Political and Theological Science Fiction -- wherein I attempt to approximate reality -- even if I have little or no proof. This might be an excercise in futility, and a tempest in a teapot, but it's what I do. They say 'it takes all kinds' but I often wonder why? My raison d' etre often seems unreasonable. BTW -- what if Lilith is the Complete Hypothetical Reincarnational Osiris-Isis-Horus-Set Royal Family from Sirius? And what if Lilith has had to fight unimaginable battles, for thousands of years, to keep Male and Female Human Physicality and Responsible Freedom alive in a universe which remains hostile to such heresy? Might Lilith be the 'Sovereign Queen of the Air' who came to Tibet from Sirius to conduct hybridization experiments -- which Nicholas Roerich spoke of? Might Lilith have played the parts of various key males and females - humans and other than humans -- friends and foes -- throughout history? What if Lilith is at the center of 'The Biggest Secret'? I have no idea. I have no idea who I am. I suspect that I'm an old soul of some sort. I have been told that I am. But I am extremely apprehensive regarding my next incarnation (or lack thereof). This generation seems to be on the final approach to some sort of looming fate -- which might be the End of Male and Female Human Physicality and Responsible Freedom. What if we are dealing with the King and Queen of Heaven -- and Archangel Gabriel? What if the Queen of Heaven was Lilith? What if there were an ancient and nasty divorce? What if the King and Queen of Heaven are still fighting over the kids? What if Archangel Gabriel has been serving as a Stand-In Queen of Heaven for thousands of years? What if the King of Heaven and Archangel Gabriel have been the Prosecuting Attorneys against Lilith and the Human Race for thousands of years? What if they have been somewhat corrupt and brutal in this hypothetical prosecution? What if Lilith has been relatively powerless for thousands of years? Consider watching 'Stargate Continuum' with the Goa'uld being Draconian Reptilians -- and Kitesh aka Vala Mal Doran as being Lilith. (Kitesh as a Drac -- and Vala as a Human) Watch the 'Hungry Earth' and 'Cold Blood' episodes of 'Dr. Who' -- and imagine the Reptilian Beings as being the previously mentioned 'Stargate' characters -- and the other way around. Use your imagination. See how my sci-fi works? It makes you work! Notice especially the introduction to 'Cold Blood'. It must never be forgotten. I continue to think we live in an insane situation -- and to remain sane is probably insane. I have a rather conservative core -- but I manifest this core in some rather liberal and unorthodox ways. I use the methodology of 'theme and variations' which is really a musical modality, yet which can be effectively utilized in a variety of contexts, including within the 'Mists'. My final answer is 'orthodoxymoron' as both problem and solution. I really and truly am only scratching the surface of some very deep subjects. Besides, 'sanity' and 'insanity' are relative terms. After all -- What is 'Normal'?
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Here is the Wikipedia link for 'Lilith'. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith
Lilith (Hebrew: לילית; lilit, or lilith) is a character in Jewish mythology, developed earliest in the Babylonian Talmud, who is generally thought to be related to a class of female demons Līlīṯu in Mesopotamian texts. However, Lowell K. Handy (1997) notes, "Very little information has been found relating to the Akkadian and Babylonian view of these demons. Two sources of information previously used to define Lilith are both suspect."[1] The two problematic sources are the Gilgamesh appendix and the Arslan Tash amulets, which are discussed below.[2]
The term Lilith occurs in Isaiah 34:14, either singular or plural according to variations in the earliest manuscripts, though in a list of animals. In the Dead Sea Scrolls Songs of the Sage the term first occurs in a list of monsters. In Jewish magical inscriptions, on bowls and amulets from the 6th century CE onwards, Lilith is identified as a female demon and the first visual depictions appear.
In Jewish folklore, from the 8th–10th centuries Alphabet of Ben Sira onwards, Lilith becomes Adam's first wife, who was created at the same time and from the same earth as Adam. This contrasts with Eve, who was created from one of Adam's ribs. The legend was greatly developed during the Middle Ages, in the tradition of Aggadic midrashim, the Zohar and Jewish mysticism.[3] In the 13th Century writings of Rabbi Isaac ben Jacob ha-Cohen, for example, Lilith left Adam after she refused to become subservient to him and then would not return to the Garden of Eden after she mated with archangel Samael.[4] The resulting Lilith legend is still commonly used as source material in modern Western culture, literature, occultism, fantasy, and horror.
The semitic root L-Y-L layil in Hebrew, as layl in Arabic, means "night". Talmudic and Yiddish use of Lilith follows Hebrew.
In Akkadian the terms lili and līlītu mean spirits. Some uses of līlītu are listed in The Assyrian Dictionary of the Oriental Institute of the University of Chicago (CAD, 1956, L.190), in Wolfram von Soden's Akkadisches Handwörterbuch (AHw, p. 553), and Reallexikon der Assyriologie (RLA, p. 47).[5] The Sumerian she-demons lili have no etymologic relation to Akkadian lilu, "evening".[6]
Archibald Sayce (1882)[7] considered that Hebrew lilit (or lilith) Hebrew: לילית; and Akkadian: līlītu are from proto-Semitic. Charles Fossey (1902)[8] has this literally translating to "female night being/demon", although cuneiform inscriptions exist where Līlīt and Līlītu refers to disease-bearing wind spirits.[citation needed] Another possibility is association not with "night", but with "wind", thus identifying the Akkadian Lil-itu as a loan from the Sumerian lil, "air" — specifically from Ninlil, "lady air", goddess of the south wind (and wife of Enlil) — and itud, "moon".[citation needed]
Although widely repeated in secondary and tertiary sources the possible references to Lilith in Mesopotamian mythology are now disputed:
Samuel Noah Kramer (1932, published 1938)[9] translated ki-sikil-lil-la-ke as Lilith in "Tablet XII" of the Epic of Gilgamesh dated c.600 BC. "Tablet XII" is not part of the Epic of Gilgamesh, but is a later Akkadian translation of the latter part of the Sumerian poem of Bilgames and the Netherworld.[10] The ki-sikil-lil-la-ke is associated with a serpent and a zu bird,[11] In Bilgames and the Netherworld, a huluppu tree (willow) grows in Inanna's garden in Uruk, whose wood she plans to use to build a new throne. After ten years of growth, she comes to harvest it and finds a serpent living at its base, a Zu bird raising young in its crown, and that a ki-sikil-lil-la-ke made a house in its trunk. Bilgames/Gilgamesh is said to have smitten the snake, and then the zu bird flew away to the mountains with its young, while the ki-sikil-lil-la-ke fearfully destroys its house and runs for the forest.[12][13] Kramer's identification is repeated without question or justification by Manfred Hutter in the article on Lilith in Dictionary of deities and demons in the Bible (1999).[14] According to a new source from Late Antiquity the Lilith(s) appear(s) in a Mandaic magic story where she (they) is (are) considered to represent the branch(es) of a tree with other demonic figures that form other parts of the tree.[15]
Suggested translations for the Tablet XII spirit in the tree include ki-sikil as "sacred place", lil as "spirit", and lil-la-ke as "water spirit".[16] but also simply "owl", given that the lil is building a home in the trunk of the tree.[17]
A connection between the Gilgamesh ki-sikil-lil-la-ke and the Jewish Lilith was rejected by Dietrich Opitz (1932)[18] and other scholars, finally being rejected on textual grounds by Sergio Ribichini (1978).[19]
Burney Relief, Babylon (1800-1750 BCE). The figure in the relief was sometimes identified with Lilith, based on a misreading of an outdated translation of the Epic of Gilgamesh. Modern research has identified the figure as either Ishtar or Ereshkigal.Kramer's translation of the Gilgamesh fragment was used by Henri Frankfort (1937)[20] and Emil Kraeling (1937)[21] to support identification of a woman with wings and bird-feet in the Burney Relief as related to Lilith, but this too is rejected by more recent scholarship.[22]
The Arslan Tash amulets are limestone plaques discovered in 1933 at Arslan Tash, the authenticity of which is disputed. William F. Albright, Theodor H. Gaster,[23] and others, accepted the amulets as a pre-Jewish source which shows that the name Lilith already existed in 7th century BC but Torczyner (1947) identified the amulets as a later Jewish source.[24]
The word lilu means spirit in Akkadian Language, and the male lili and female lilitu are found in incantation texts from Nippur, Babylonia c600 BC in both singular and plural forms.[25] Among the spirits the vardat lilitu, or maiden spirit bears some comparison with later Talmudic legends of Lilith.[26][27][28][29] A lili is related to witchcraft in the Sumerian incantation Text 313.[30]
Much of the popular information found in non-academic sources regarding Lilith is taken from reprints of out-of-copyright works which are now outdated,[31] for example Moses Gaster (1880),[32] R. Campbell Thompson (1908),[33] W. O. E. Oesterley (1930),[34] and confuses Jewish and Assyrian sources.
According to Siegmund Hurwitz, the figure of Lilith first appeared in a class of wind and storm demons or spirits as lilitu, in Sumer, circa 4000 BC.[35] The phonetic name Lilith is traditionally thought[by whom?] to have originated (as lilit) in Ancient Israel, and to have pre-dated at least 700 BC.[36]
Akkad, who were the earliest known Semitic speakers, and Sumer, who were the earliest civilizations inhabiting Mesopotamia, developed a very intimate cultural symbiosis with widespread bilingualism.[37] The bilateral influence of Sumerian and Akkadian is evident in all areas,[37] including syncretism between their gods, where each adopted the other's deities.[38] In Sumerian, Lilith was referred to as Ki-sikil-lil-la-ke, in Akkadian it was Ardat-lili.[39] The Assyrian and Babylonian cultures descended from these early cultures.
According to Siegmund Hurwitz, Lilith retained her Shedim characteristics throughout the entire Jewish tradition.[40] Shedim is plural for "spirit" or "demon". Figures that represent shedim are the shedu of Babylonian mythology. These figures were depicted as anthropomorphic, winged bulls, associated with wind. They were thought to guard palaces, cities, houses, and temples. In magical texts of that era, they could be either malevolent or benevolent.[41] The cult originated from Babylon, then spread to Canaan and eventually to Israel.[42] Human sacrifice was part of the practice and a sacrificial altar existed to the shedim next to that of the Yahweh cultus, although this practice was widely denounced by prophets who retained belief in Yahweh.[43]
In Jewish thought and literature Shedim were portrayed as quite malevolent. Some writings contend that they are storm-demons. Their creation is presented in three contradicting Jewish tales. The first is that during Creation, God created the shedim, but did not create their bodies and forgot them on the Shabbat when he rested. The second is that they are descendants of demons in the form of serpents, and the last states that they are simply descendants of Adam and Lilith. Another story asserts that after the Tower of Babel, some people were scattered and became Shedim, Ruchin, and Lilin.[citation needed]
Another proposed connection to Lilith is on the Sumerian king list, where Gilgamesh's father is named as Lilû.[44][45] Little is known of Lilû, Li in Sumerian means "Lord" and Lu means " shepherd". {{unrelated to this particular lilu |and he was said to interfere with women in their sleep and had functions of an incubus,[46] while Lilû [47] appeared to men in their erotic dreams.[48][49][50] Such qualities as lalu, or wandering about, and lulu, from Akkadian (Semitic) language have been associated as sources for the names Lila and Lilitû,[51] but some sumerologists[who?] say Lilû is purely Sumerian.[44]
The Assyrian lilitû were said to prey upon children and women[52] and were described as associated with lions, storms, desert, and disease.[citation needed] Early portrayals of such demons are known as having Zu bird talons for feet and wings.[53] They were highly sexually predatory towards men but were unable to copulate normally. They were thought to dwell in waste, desolate, and desert places. Like the Sumerian Dimme, a male wind demon named Pazuzu was thought to be effective against them.[54]
Lilith's epithet was "the beautiful maiden".[citation needed] She was described as having no milk in her breasts and as unable to bear any children.[49][55]
Other storm and night demons from a similar class are recorded from Akkadian texts[which?] around this period. The Ardat-lili[citation needed] is from Ardatû,[citation needed] which is a young unmarried woman or maiden, also sometimes a title of prostitutes, and lilitû.[56] These "maiden liltû" would come to men in their sleep and beget children from them.[citation needed] Sick men would also be described as being seized by Ardat-lili[48] Their male counterparts, similar to an incubus, were the Irdû-lili[57] These demons were originally storm and wind demons; however, later etymology made them into night demons.[58]
Lamashtû or Labartu (in Sumerian Dimme) was a very similar Mesopotamian demon to Lilitû, and Lilith seems to have inherited many of Lamashtû's myths.[59] She was considered a demi-goddess and daughter of Anu, the sky god.[60] Many incantations against her mention her status as a daughter of heaven and her exercising her free will over infants. This makes her different from the rest of the demons in Mesopotamia. Unlike her demonic peers, Lamashtû was not instructed by the gods to do her malevolence; she did it on her own accord. She was believed to seduce men, harm pregnant women, mothers, and neonates, kill foliage, and drink blood and was a cause of disease, sickness, and death. Some incantations[which?] describe her as "seven witches".[61] The space between her legs is as a scorpion, corresponding to the astrological sign of Scorpio. (Scorpio rules the genitals and sex organs.)[62] Her head is that of a lion, she has Anzu bird feet like Lilitû,[63] her breasts are suckled by a pig and a dog, and she rides the back of a donkey.[64] Other texts[which?] mention Lamashtû as the hand of Inanna/Ishtar in place of Lilitû and Ardat-lili.[65]
Two other Mesopotamian demons have a close relation to Lilitû: Gallû and Alû.[66] Alû was originally an asexual demon, who took on female attributes, but later became a male demon.[citation needed] Alû liked to roam the streets like a stray dog at night and creep into people's bedrooms as they slept to terrify them.[citation needed] He was described as being half-human and half-devil. He appears in Jewish lore[where?] as Ailo[citation needed]; here, he is used as one of Lilith's secret names[citation needed]. In other texts,[which?] Ailo is a daughter of Lilith's that has had intercourse with a man . The other demon, Gallû, is of the Utukkû group[citation needed]. Gallû’s name, like Utukkû, was also used as a general term[where?] for multiple demons.[67] Later[when?] Gallû appears as Gello, Gylo, or Gyllou in Greco–Byzantine mythology[which?] as a child-stealing and child-killing demon[citation needed]. This figure was, likewise, adapted by the Jews as Gilû and was also considered a secret name of Lilith's.[68]
Stephen Langdon (1914) claims that Babylonian texts depict Lilitû as the sacred prostitute of the goddess Ishtar, the Assyrian and Babylonian counterpart to the Sumerian Inanna.[69] Hurwitz similarly claims that older Sumerian accounts assert that Lilitû is called the handmaiden of Inanna or "hand of Inanna" . The Sumerian texts[which?] state, "Inanna has sent the beautiful, unmarried, and seductive prostitute Lilitû out into the fields and streets in order to lead men astray." That is why Lilitû is called the "hand of Inanna".[70][71]
There is an ongoing scholarly debate as to whether the concept of Lilith occurs in the Bible. The only possible occurrence is in the Book of Isaiah 34:13–15, describing the desolation of Edom, where the Hebrew word lilit (or lilith) appears in a list of eight unclean animals, some of which may have demonic associations. Since the word lilit (or lilith) is a hapax legomenon in the Hebrew Bible and the other seven terms in the list are better documented, the reading of scholars and translators is often guided by a decision about the complete list of eight creatures as a whole.[72][73] Quoting from Isaiah 34 (NAB):
(12) Her nobles shall be no more, nor shall kings be proclaimed there; all her princes are gone. (13) Her castles shall be overgrown with thorns, her fortresses with thistles and briers. She shall become an abode for jackals and a haunt for ostriches. (14) Wildcats shall meet with desert beasts, satyrs shall call to one another; There shall the lilith repose, and find for herself a place to rest. (15) There the hoot owl shall nest and lay eggs, hatch them out and gather them in her shadow; There shall the kites assemble, none shall be missing its mate. (16) Look in the book of the LORD and read: No one of these shall be lacking, For the mouth of the LORD has ordered it, and his spirit shall gather them there. (17) It is he who casts the lot for them, and with his hands he marks off their shares of her; They shall possess her forever, and dwell there from generation to generation.
In the Masoretic Text:
Hebrew: וּפָגְשׁוּ צִיִּים אֶת-אִיִּים, וְשָׂעִיר עַל-רֵעֵהוּ יִקְרָא; אַךְ-שָׁם הִרְגִּיעָה לִּילִית, וּמָצְאָה לָהּ מָנוֹח
Hebrew (ISO 259): u-pagšu ṣiyyim et-ʾiyyim w-saʿir ʿal-rēʿēhu yiqra; ʾak-šam hirgiʿa lilit u-maṣʾa lah manoaḫ[74]
34:14 "And shall-meet desert creatures et (particle) jackals
the goat he-calls his- fellow
lilit (lilith) she-rests and she-finds rest[75]
34:15 there she-shall-nest the great-owl, and she-lays-(eggs), and she-hatches, and she-gathers under her-shadow:
hawks[kites, gledes ] also they-gather, every one with its mate.
In the Dead Sea Scrolls, among the 19 fragments of Isaiah found at Qumran, the Great Isaiah Scroll (1Q1Isa) in 34:14 renders the creature as plural liliyyot (or liliyyoth).[76][77]
Eberhard Schrader (1875)[78] and Moritz Abraham Levy (1885)[79] suggest that Lilith was a goddess of the night, known also by the Jewish exiles in Babylon. Schrader and Levy's view is therefore partly dependent on a later dating of Deutero-Isaiah to the 6th century BC, and the presence of Jews in Babylon which would coincide with the possible references to the Līlītu in Babylonian demonology. However this view is challenged by some modern research such as by Judit M. Blair (2009) who considers that the context indicates unclean animals.[80]
The Septuagint translates the reference into Greek as onokentauros, apparently for lack of a better word, since also the se'irim, "satyrs", earlier in the verse are translated with daimon onokentauros. The "wild beasts of the island and the desert" are omitted altogether, and the "crying to his fellow" is also done by the daimon onokentauros.[81]
The early 5th-century Vulgate translated the same word as Lamia.[82][83]
et occurrent daemonia onocentauris et pilosus clamabit alter ad alterum ibi cubavit lamia et invenit sibi requiem
—Isaiah (Isaias Propheta) 34.14, Vulgate
The translation is: "And demons shall meet with monsters, and one hairy one shall cry out to another; there the lamia has lain down and found rest for herself...".
Wyclif's Bible (1395) preserves the Latin rendering Lamia:
Isa 34:15 Lamya schal ligge there, and foond rest there to hir silf.
The Bishops' Bible of Matthew Parker (1568) from the Latin:
Isa 34:14 there shall the Lamia lye and haue her lodgyng.
Douay-Rheims Bible (1582/1610) also preserves the Latin rendering Lamia:
Isa 34:14 "And demons and monsters shall meet, and the hairy ones shall cry out one to another, there hath the lamia lain down, and found rest for herself."
The Geneva Bible of William Whittington (1587) from the Hebrew:
Isa 34:14 and the shricheowle shall rest there, and shall finde for her selfe a quiet dwelling.
Then the King James Version of the Bible (1611):
Isa 34:14 "The wild beasts of the desert shall also meet with the wild beasts of the island, and the satyr shall cry to his fellow; the screech owl also shall rest there, and find for herself a place of rest."
The "screech owl" translation of the KJV is, together with the "owl" (yanšup, probably a water bird) in 34:11 and the "great owl" (qippoz, properly a snake) of 34:15, an attempt to render the passage by choosing suitable animals for difficult-to-translate Hebrew words.
Later translations include:
night-owl (Young, 1898)
night-spectre (Rotherham, Emphasized Bible, 1902)
night monster (ASV, 1901; JPS 1917, Good News Translation, 1992; NASB, 1995)
vampires (Moffatt Translation, 1922)
night hag (RSV, 1947)
Lilith (Jerusalem Bible, 1966)
lilith (New American Bible, 1970)
Lilith (NRSV, 1989)
Lilith (The Message (Bible), Peterson, 1993)
night creature (NIV, 1978; NKJV, 1982; NLT, 1996, TNIV)
nightjar (New World Translation, 1984)
night bird (English Standard Version, 2001)
Major sources in Jewish tradition regarding Lilith in chronological order include:
c. 40–10BCE Dead Sea Scrolls – Songs for a Sage (4Q510-511)
c.200 Mishnah – not mentioned
c.500 Gemara of the Talmud
c.800 The Alphabet of Ben-Sira
c.900 Midrash Abkir
c.1260 Treatise on the Left Emanation, Spain
c.1280 Zohar, Spain.
The Dead Sea Scrolls contains one indisputable reference to Lilith in Songs of the Sage (4Q510-511)[84] fragment 1:
And I, the Instructor, proclaim His glorious splendour so as to frighten and to te[rrify] all the spirits of the destroying angels, spirits of the bastards, demons, Lilith, howlers, and [desert dwellers…] and those which fall upon men without warning to lead them astray from a spirit of understanding and to make their heart and their […] desolate during the present dominion of wickedness and predetermined time of humiliations for the sons of lig[ht], by the guilt of the ages of [those] smitten by iniquity – not for eternal destruction, [bu]t for an era of humiliation for transgression.[85]
As with the Massoretic Text of Isaiah 34:14, and therefore unlike the plural liliyyot (or liliyyoth) in the Isaiah scroll 34:14, lilit in 4Q510 is singular, this liturgical text both cautions against the presence of supernatural malevolence and assumes familiarity with Lilith; distinct from the biblical text, however, this passage does not function under any socio-political agenda, but instead serves in the same capacity as An Exorcism (4Q560) and Songs to Disperse Demons (11Q11).[citation needed] The text is thus, to a community "deeply involved in the realm of demonology",[86] an exorcism hymn.
Joseph M. Baumgarten (1991) identified the unnamed woman of The Seductress (4Q184) as related to female demon.[87] However John J. Collins [88] regards this identification as "intriguing" but that it is "safe to say" that (4Q184) is based on the strange woman of Proverbs 2, 5, 7, 9:
Her house sinks down to death,
And her course leads to the shades.
All who go to her cannot return
And find again the paths of life.
— Proverbs 2:18–19
Her gates are gates of death, and from the entrance of the house
She sets out towards Sheol.
None of those who enter there will ever return,
And all who possess her will descend to the Pit.
— 4Q184
Lilith does not occur in the Mishnah. There are three references to Lilith in the Babylonian Talmud in Gemara on three separate Tractates of the Mishnah:
"Rab Judah citing Samuel ruled: If an abortion had the likeness of Lilith its mother is unclean by reason of the birth, for it is a child but it has wings." (Babylonian Talmud on Tractate Nidda 24b)[89]
"[Expounding upon the curses of womanhood] In a Baraitha it was taught: She grows long hair like Lilith, sits when making water like a beast, and serves as a bolster for her husband.” (Babylonian Talmud on Tractate Eruvin 100b)
"R. Hanina said: One may not sleep in a house alone [in a lonely house], and whoever sleeps in a house alone is seized by Lilith.” (Babylonian Talmud on Tractate Shabbath 151b)
The above statement by Hanina may be related to the belief that nocturnal emissions engendered the birth of demons: "R. Jeremiah b. Eleazar further stated: In all those years [130 years after his expulsion from the Garden of Eden] during which Adam was under the ban he begot ghosts and male demons and female demons [or night demons], for it is said in Scripture: And Adam lived a hundred and thirty years and begot a son in own likeness, after his own image, from which it follows that until that time he did not beget after his own image… When he saw that through him death was ordained as punishment he spent a hundred and thirty years in fasting, severed connection with his wife for a hundred and thirty years, and wore clothes of fig on his body for a hundred and thirty years. – That statement [of R. Jeremiah] was made in reference to the semen which he emitted accidentally.” (Babylonian Talmud on Tractate Eruvin 18b)
An individual Lilith, along with Bagdana "king of the lilits", is one of the demons to feature prominently in protective spells in the eighty surviving Jewish occult incantation bowls from Sassanid Empire Babylon (4th-6th Century CE).[90] These bowls were buried upside down in houses to trap the demon, and almost every Jewish house in Nippur was found to have such protective bowls buried.[91] One bowl contains the following inscription commissioned from a Jewish occultist to protect a woman called Rashnoi and her husband from Lilith:
Thou liliths, male lili and female lilith, hag and ghool, I adjure you by the Strong One of Abraham, by the Rock of Isaac, by the Shaddai of Jacob, by Yah Ha-Shem by Yah his memorial, to turn away from this Rashnoi b. M. and from Geyonai b. M. her husband. [Here is] your divorce and writ and letter of separation, sent through holy angels. Amen, Amen, Selah, Halleluyah! (image)
— Excerpt from translation in Aramaic Incantation Texts from Nippur James Alan Montgomery 2011 p156[92]
The pseudepigraphic[93] 8th-10th centuries Alphabet of Ben Sira is considered to be the oldest form of the story of Lilith as Adam's first wife. Whether this particular tradition is older is not known. Scholars tend to date the Alphabet between the 8th and 10th centuries AD.
In the text an amulet is inscribed with the names of three angels (Senoy, Sansenoy, and Semangelof) and placed around the neck of newborn boys in order to protect them from the lilin until their circumcision.[94] The amulets used against Lilith that were thought to derive from this tradition are in fact, dated as being much older.[95] The concept of Eve having a predecessor is not exclusive to the Alphabet, and is not a new concept, as it can be found in Genesis Rabbah. However, the idea that Lilith was the predecessor is exclusive to the Alphabet.
The idea in the text that Adam had a wife prior to Eve may have developed from an interpretation of the Book of Genesis and its dual creation accounts; while Genesis 2:22 describes God's creation of Eve from Adam's rib, an earlier passage, 1:27, already indicates that a woman had been made: "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them." The Alphabet text places Lilith's creation after God's words in Genesis 2:18 that "it is not good for man to be alone"; in this text God forms Lilith out of the clay from which he made Adam but she and Adam bicker. Lilith claims that since she and Adam were created in the same way they were equal and she refuses to submit to him:[96] The background and purpose of The Alphabet of Ben-Sira is unclear. It is a collection of stories about heroes of the Bible and Talmud, it may have been a collection of folk-tales, a refutation of Christian, Karaite, or other separatist movements; its content seems so offensive to contemporary Jews that it was even suggested that it could be an anti-Jewish satire,[97] although, in any case, the text was accepted by the Jewish mystics of medieval Germany.
The Alphabet of Ben-Sira is the earliest surviving source of the story, and the conception that Lilith was Adam's first wife became only widely known with the 17th century Lexicon Talmudicum of German scholar Johannes Buxtorf.
In this folk tradition that arose in the early Middle Ages Lilith, a dominant female demon, became identified with Asmodeus, King of Demons, as his queen.[98] Asmodeus was already well known by this time because of the legends about him in the Talmud. Thus, the merging of Lilith and Asmodeus was inevitable.[99] The second myth of Lilith grew to include legends about another world and by some accounts this other world existed side by side with this one, Yenne Velt is Yiddish for this described "Other World". In this case Asmodeus and Lilith were believed to procreate demonic offspring endlessly and spread chaos at every turn.[100] Many disasters were blamed on both of them, causing wine to turn into vinegar, men to be impotent, women unable to give birth, and it was Lilith who was blamed for the loss of infant life. The presence of Lilith and her cohorts were considered very real at this time.[citation needed]
Two primary characteristics are seen in these legends about Lilith: Lilith as the incarnation of lust, causing men to be led astray, and Lilith as a child-killing witch, who strangles helpless neonates. Although these two aspects of the Lilith legend seemed to have evolved separately, there is hardly a tale where she encompasses both roles.[100] But the aspect of the witch-like role that Lilith plays broadens her archetype of the destructive side of witchcraft. Such stories are commonly found among Jewish folklore.[100]
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Kabbalistic mysticism attempted to establish a more exact relationship between Lilith and the Deity. With her major characteristics having been well-developed by the end of the Talmudic period, after six centuries had elapsed between the Aramaic incantation texts that mention Lilith and the early Spanish Kabbalistic writings in the 13th century, she reappears, and her life history becomes known in greater mythological detail.[101]
Her creation is described in many alternative versions. One mentions her creation as being before Adam's, on the fifth day, because the "living creatures" with whose swarms God filled the waters included none other than Lilith. A similar version, related to the earlier Talmudic passages, recounts how Lilith was fashioned with the same substance as Adam was, shortly before. A third alternative version states that God originally created Adam and Lilith in a manner that the female creature was contained in the male. Lilith's soul was lodged in the depths of the Great Abyss. When God called her, she joined Adam. After Adam's body was created a thousand souls from the Left (evil) side attempted to attach themselves to him. However, God drove them off. Adam was left lying as a body without a soul. Then a cloud descended and God commanded the earth to produce a living soul. This God breathed into Adam, who began to spring to life and his female was attached to his side. God separated the female from Adam's side. The female side was Lilith, whereupon she flew to the Cities of the Sea and attacks humankind. Yet another version claims that Lilith was not created by God, but emerged as a divine entity that was born spontaneously, either out of the Great Supernal Abyss or out of the power of an aspect of God (the Gevurah of Din). This aspect of God, one of his ten attributes (Sefirot), at its lowest manifestation has an affinity with the realm of evil and it is out of this that Lilith merged with Samael.[102] According to The Alphabet of Ben-Sira Lilith was Adam's first wife.
An alternative story links Lilith with the creation of luminaries. The "first light", which is the light of Mercy (one of the Sefirot), appeared on the first day of creation when God said "Let there be light". This light became hidden and the Holiness became surrounded by a husk of evil. "A husk (klippa) was created around the brain" and this husk spread and brought out another husk, which was Lilith.[103]
The first medieval source to depict Adam and Lilith in full was the Midrash A.B.K.I.R. (ca. 10th century), which was followed by the Zohar and Kabbalistic writings. Adam is said to be perfect until he recognizes either his sin or Cain's fratricide that is the cause of bringing death into the world. He then separates from holy Eve, sleeps alone, and fasts for 130 years. During this time Lilith, also known as Pizna, desired his beauty and came to him against his will.
The mystical writing of two brothers Jacob and Isaac Hacohen, which predates the Zohar by a few decades, states that Samael and Lilith are in the shape of an androgynous being, double-faced, born out of the emanation of the Throne of Glory and corresponding in the spiritual realm to Adam and Eve, who were likewise born as a hermaphrodite. The two twin androgynous couples resembled each other and both "were like the image of Above"; that is, that they are reproduced in a visible form of an androgynous deity.
19. In answer to your question concerning Lilith, I shall explain to you the essence of the matter. Concerning this point there is a received tradition from the ancient Sages who made use of the Secret Knowledge of the Lesser Palaces, which is the manipulation of demons and a ladder by which one ascends to the prophetic levels. In this tradition it is made clear that Samael and Lilith were born as one, similar to the form of Adam and Eve who were also born as one, reflecting what is above. This is the account of Lilith which was received by the Sages in the Secret Knowledge of the Palaces.[104]
Another version[clarification needed] that was also current among Kabbalistic circles in the Middle Ages establishes Lilith as the first of Samael's four wives: Lilith, Naamah, Igrath, and Mahalath. Each of them are mothers of demons and have their own hosts and unclean spirits in no number.[105] The marriage of archangel Samael and Lilith was arranged by "Blind Dragon", who is the counterpart of "the dragon that is in the sea". Blind Dragon acts as an intermediary between Lilith and Samael:
Blind Dragon rides Lilith the Sinful – may she be extirpated quickly in our days, Amen! – And this Blind Dragon brings about the union between Samael and Lilith. And just as the Dragon that is in the sea (Isa. 27:1) has no eyes, likewise Blind Dragon that is above, in the likeness of a spiritual form, is without eyes, that is to say, without colors.... (Patai81:458) Samael is called the Slant Serpent, and Lilith is called the Tortuous Serpent.[106]
The marriage of Samael and Lilith is known as the "Angel Satan" or the "Other God", but it was not allowed to last. To prevent Lilith and Samael's demonic children Lilin from filling the world, God castrated Samael. In many 17th century Kabbalistic books, this mythologem is based on the identification of "Leviathan the Slant Serpent and Leviathan the Torturous Serpent" and a reinterpretation of an old Talmudic myth where God castrated the male Leviathan and slew the female Leviathan in order to prevent them from mating and thereby destroying the earth.[107] After Samael became castrated and Lilith was unable to fornicate with him, she left him to couple with men who experience nocturnal emissions. A 15th or 16th century Kabbalah text states that God has "cooled" the female Leviathan, meaning that he has made Lilith infertile and she is a mere fornication.
The Treatise on the Left Emanation says that there are two Liliths, the lesser being married to the great demon Asmodeus.[108][109]
Another passage charges Lilith as being a tempting serpent of Eve.[110]
References to Lilith in the Zohar include the following:
She wanders about at night, vexing the sons of men and causing them to defile themselves (19b)
This passage may be related to the mention of Lilith in Talmud Shabbath 151b (see above), and also to Talmud Eruvin 18b where nocturnal emissions are connected with the begettal of demons.
Raphael Patai states that older sources state clearly that after Lilith's Red Sea sojourn (mentioned also in Louis Ginzberg's Legends of the Jews), she returned to Adam and begat children from him. In the Zohar, however, Lilith is said to have succeeded in begetting offspring from Adam during their short-lived sexual experience. Lilith leaves Adam in Eden, as she is not a suitable helpmate for him. She returns, later, to force herself upon him. However, before doing so she attaches herself to Cain and bears him numerous spirits and demons.[111]
According to Gershom Scholem, the author of the Zohar, Rabbi Moses de Leon, was aware of the folk tradition of Lilith. He was also aware of another story, possibly older, that may be conflicting.[112] According to the Zohar, two female spirits, Lilith and Naamah — found Adam, desired his beauty which was like that of the sun disk, and lay with him. The issue of these unions were demons and spirits called "the plagues of humankind".[111] The added explanation was that it was through Adam's own sin that Lilith overcame him against his will.
A copy of Jean de Pauly's translation of the Zohar in the Ritman Library contains an inserted late 17th Century printed Hebrew sheet for use in magical amulets where the prophet Elijah confronts Lilith.[113] In this encounter, she had come to feast on the flesh of the mother, with a host of demons, and take the newborn from her. She eventually reveals her secret names to Elijah in the conclusion. These names are said to cause Lilith to lose her power: lilith, abitu, abizu, hakash, avers hikpodu, ayalu, matrota…[114] In others, probably informed by The Alphabet of Ben-Sira, she is Adam's first wife. (Yalqut Reubeni, Zohar 1:34b, 3:19[115])
Lilith is listed as one of the Qliphoth, corresponding to the Sephirah Malkuth in the Kabbalistic Tree of Life. The demon Lilith, the evil woman, is described as a beautiful woman, who transforms into a blue, butterfly-like demon, and it is associated with the power of seduction.[citation needed]
The Qliphah is the unbalanced power of a Sephirah. Malkuth is the lowest Sephirah, the realm of the earth, into which all the divine energy flows, and in which the divine plan is worked out. However, its unbalanced form is as Lilith, the seductress. The material world, and all of its pleasures, is the ultimate seductress, and can lead to materialism unbalanced by the spirituality of the higher spheres. This ultimately leads to a descent into animal consciousness. The balance must therefore be found between Malkuth and Kether, to find order and harmony.[citation needed]
In the Latin Vulgate Book of Isaiah 34:14, Lilith is translated lamia.
According to Siegmund Hurwitz the Talmudic Lilith is connected with the Greek Lamia, who, according to Hurwitz, likewise governed a class of child stealing lamia-demons. Lamia bore the title "child killer" and was feared for her malevolence, like Lilith. She has different conflicting origins and is described as having a human upper body from the waist up and a serpentine body from the waist down.[116] One source states simply that she is a daughter of the goddess Hecate. Another, that Lamia was subsequently cursed by the goddess Hera to have stillborn children because of her association with Zeus; alternatively, Hera slew all of Lamia's children (except Scylla) in anger that Lamia slept with her husband, Zeus. The grief caused Lamia to turn into a monster that took revenge on mothers by stealing their children and devouring them.[117] Lamia had a vicious sexual appetite that matched her cannibalistic appetite for children. She was notorious for being a vampiric spirit and loved sucking men’s blood.[118] Her gift was the "mark of a Sibyl", a gift of second sight. Zeus was said to have given her the gift of sight. However, she was "cursed" to never be able to shut her eyes so that she would forever obsess over her dead children. Taking pity on Lamia, Zeus gave her the ability to remove and replace her eyes from their sockets.[117]
The Empusae were a class of supernatural demons that Lamia was said to have birthed. Hecate would often send them against travelers. They consumed or scared to death any of the people where they inhabited. They bear many similarities to lilim. It has been suggested that later medieval lore of the succubi or lilim is derived from this myth.[citation needed]
Lilith (Arabic: ليليث) is not found in the Quran or Haddith. The Sufi occult writer Ahmad al-Buni (d.1225) in his Shams al-Ma'arif al-Kubra (Sun of the Great Knowledge, Arabic: شمس المعارف الكبرى) mentions a demon called the mother of children a term also used "in one place"[119] in the 13th-century Jewish Zohar and is therefore probably derived from Jewish mythology. Another Islamic legend recounts an encounter between King Solomon and a giant female demon, Karina.[120]
Lilith's earliest appearance in the literature of the Romantic period (1789–1832) was in Goethe's 1808 work Faust: The First Part of the Tragedy.[121]
The Pre-Raphaelite Brotherhood, which developed around 1848,[122] were greatly influenced by Goethe's work on the theme of Lilith. In 1863, Dante Gabriel Rossetti of the Brotherhood began painting what would later be his first rendition of Lady Lilith, a painting he expected to be his "best picture hitherto"[122] Symbols appearing in the painting allude to the "femme fatale" reputation of the Romantic Lilith: poppies (death and cold) and white roses (sterile passion). Accompanying his Lady Lilith painting from 1866, Rossetti wrote a sonnet entitled Lilith, which was first published in Swinburne's pamphlet-review (1868), Notes on the Royal Academy Exhibition.[123] The poem and the picture appeared together alongside Rossetti's painting Sibylla Palmifera and the sonnet Soul's Beauty. In 1881, the Lilith sonnet was renamed "Body's Beauty" in order to contrast it and Soul's Beauty. The two were placed sequentially in The House of Life collection (sonnets number 77 and 78).[122]
Rossetti wrote in 1870:
Lady [Lilith]...represents a Modern Lilith combing out her abundant golden hair and gazing on herself in the glass with that self-absorption by whose strange fascination such natures draw others within their own circle.
—Rossetti, W. M. ii.850, D.G. Rossetti's emphasis[122]
This is in accordance with Jewish folk tradition, which associates Lilith both with long hair (a symbol of dangerous feminine seductive power in both Jewish and Islamic cultures), and with possessing women by entering them through mirrors.[124]
The Victorian poet Robert Browning re-envisioned Lilith in his poem "Adam, Lilith, and Eve". First published in 1883, the poem uses the traditional myths surrounding the triad of Adam, Eve, and Lilith. Browning depicts Lilith and Eve as being friendly and complicitous with each other, as they sit together on either side of Adam. Under the threat of death, Eve admits that she never loved Adam, while Lilith confesses that she always loved him:[125] Browning focused on Lilith's emotional attributes, rather than that of her ancient demon predecessors.[126]
Scottish author George MacDonald also wrote a fantasy novel entitled Lilith, first published in 1895. MacDonald employed the character of Lilith in service to a spiritual drama about sin and redemption, in which Lilith finds a hard-won salvation. Many of the traditional characteristics of Lilith mythology are present in the author's depiction: Long dark hair, pale skin, a hatred and fear of children and babies, and an obsession with gazing at herself in a mirror. MacDonald's Lilith also has vampiric qualities: She bites people and sucks their blood for sustenance.
Australian poet and scholar Christopher John Brennan (1870–1932), included a section titled "Lilith" in his major work "Poems: 1913" (Sydney : G. B. Philip and Son, 1914). The "Lilith" section contains thirteen poems exploring the Lilith myth and is central to the meaning of the collection as a whole.
The depiction of Lilith in Romanticism continues to be popular among feminists, Wiccans, satanists, and in other modern occultism.[122] Few magical orders dedicated to the undercurrent of Lilith, featuring initiations specifically related to the arcana of the "first mother" exist. Two organizations that use initiations and magic associated with Lilith are the Ordo Antichristianus Illuminati and the Order of Phosphorus. Lilith appears as a succubus in Aleister Crowley's De Arte Magica. Lilith was also one of the middle names of Crowley’s first child, Nuit Ma Ahathoor Hecate Sappho Jezebel Lilith Crowley (b. 1904, d.1906), and Lilith is sometimes identified with Babalon in Thelemic writings. Many early occult writers that contributed to modern day Wicca expressed special reverence for Lilith. Charles Leland associated Aradia with Lilith: Aradia, says Leland, is Herodias, who was regarded in stregheria folklore as being associated with Diana as chief of the witches. Leland further notes that Herodias is a name that comes from West Asia, where it denoted an early form of Lilith.[127][128]
Gerald Gardner asserted that there was continuous historical worship of Lilith to present day, and that her name is sometimes given to the goddess being personified in the coven, by the priestess. This idea was further attested by Doreen Valiente, who cited her as a presiding goddess of the Craft: “the personification of erotic dreams, the suppressed desire for delights”.[129] In some contemporary concepts, Lilith is viewed as the embodiment of the Goddess, a designation that is thought to be shared with what these faiths believe to be her counterparts: Inanna, Ishtar, Asherah, Anath and Isis.[130] According to one view, Lilith was originally a Sumerian, Babylonian, or Hebrew mother goddess of childbirth, children, women, and sexuality[131][132][133] who later became demonized due to the rise of patriarchy.[134] Other modern views hold that Lilith is a dark moon goddess on par with the Hindu Kali.[135]
The western mystery tradition associates Lilith with the Klipoth of kabbalah. Samael Aun Weor in The Pistis Sophia Unveiled writes that homosexuals are the "henchmen of Lilith". Likewise, women who undergo willful abortion, and those who support this practice are "seen in the sphere of Lilith".[136] Dion Fortune writes, "The Virgin Mary is reflected in Lilith",[137] and that Lilith is the source of "lustful dreams".[137]
This section only includes direct references to the Lilith of Jewish legend (as documented in Jewish sources) in popular culture. It does not include references to the many dozens of derivative female characters called "Lilith" in comics, video games, cartoons, supernatural films, TV series, and so on. For which please see Lilith (disambiguation) which has a complete listing of characters named Lilith.
The legendary Lilith, presumed wife of Adam, appears in various fantasy novels. For example Lilith is a principal character in Stephen Brust's To Reign in Hell, (1984) where she is the love interest of both Satan and Lucifer at varying points. Lilith is the primary consort of the main character while he holds the office of Satan in Piers Anthony's fantasy novel For Love of Evil (1988). Her character and history (in times back to the Garden of Eden) is explored more in depth in the eighth book of that series, Under a Velvet Cloak. In Cassandra Clare's children's fantasy series The Mortal Instruments (2007–2010) Lilith is the first wife of Adam in the garden of Eden.
The episode Lilith: Queen of the Night of The Naked Archaeologist dealt with Lilith and her origins.
In 2010 the British metal band Cradle of Filth made a concept album based upon Lilith, entitled Darkly, Darkly, Venus Aversa. Lilith/Eve on the album Concentration (1993) by the American industrial rock band Machines of Loving Grace is also based on this legend.
Lilith (Hebrew: לילית; lilit, or lilith) is a character in Jewish mythology, developed earliest in the Babylonian Talmud, who is generally thought to be related to a class of female demons Līlīṯu in Mesopotamian texts. However, Lowell K. Handy (1997) notes, "Very little information has been found relating to the Akkadian and Babylonian view of these demons. Two sources of information previously used to define Lilith are both suspect."[1] The two problematic sources are the Gilgamesh appendix and the Arslan Tash amulets, which are discussed below.[2]
The term Lilith occurs in Isaiah 34:14, either singular or plural according to variations in the earliest manuscripts, though in a list of animals. In the Dead Sea Scrolls Songs of the Sage the term first occurs in a list of monsters. In Jewish magical inscriptions, on bowls and amulets from the 6th century CE onwards, Lilith is identified as a female demon and the first visual depictions appear.
In Jewish folklore, from the 8th–10th centuries Alphabet of Ben Sira onwards, Lilith becomes Adam's first wife, who was created at the same time and from the same earth as Adam. This contrasts with Eve, who was created from one of Adam's ribs. The legend was greatly developed during the Middle Ages, in the tradition of Aggadic midrashim, the Zohar and Jewish mysticism.[3] In the 13th Century writings of Rabbi Isaac ben Jacob ha-Cohen, for example, Lilith left Adam after she refused to become subservient to him and then would not return to the Garden of Eden after she mated with archangel Samael.[4] The resulting Lilith legend is still commonly used as source material in modern Western culture, literature, occultism, fantasy, and horror.
The semitic root L-Y-L layil in Hebrew, as layl in Arabic, means "night". Talmudic and Yiddish use of Lilith follows Hebrew.
In Akkadian the terms lili and līlītu mean spirits. Some uses of līlītu are listed in The Assyrian Dictionary of the Oriental Institute of the University of Chicago (CAD, 1956, L.190), in Wolfram von Soden's Akkadisches Handwörterbuch (AHw, p. 553), and Reallexikon der Assyriologie (RLA, p. 47).[5] The Sumerian she-demons lili have no etymologic relation to Akkadian lilu, "evening".[6]
Archibald Sayce (1882)[7] considered that Hebrew lilit (or lilith) Hebrew: לילית; and Akkadian: līlītu are from proto-Semitic. Charles Fossey (1902)[8] has this literally translating to "female night being/demon", although cuneiform inscriptions exist where Līlīt and Līlītu refers to disease-bearing wind spirits.[citation needed] Another possibility is association not with "night", but with "wind", thus identifying the Akkadian Lil-itu as a loan from the Sumerian lil, "air" — specifically from Ninlil, "lady air", goddess of the south wind (and wife of Enlil) — and itud, "moon".[citation needed]
Although widely repeated in secondary and tertiary sources the possible references to Lilith in Mesopotamian mythology are now disputed:
Samuel Noah Kramer (1932, published 1938)[9] translated ki-sikil-lil-la-ke as Lilith in "Tablet XII" of the Epic of Gilgamesh dated c.600 BC. "Tablet XII" is not part of the Epic of Gilgamesh, but is a later Akkadian translation of the latter part of the Sumerian poem of Bilgames and the Netherworld.[10] The ki-sikil-lil-la-ke is associated with a serpent and a zu bird,[11] In Bilgames and the Netherworld, a huluppu tree (willow) grows in Inanna's garden in Uruk, whose wood she plans to use to build a new throne. After ten years of growth, she comes to harvest it and finds a serpent living at its base, a Zu bird raising young in its crown, and that a ki-sikil-lil-la-ke made a house in its trunk. Bilgames/Gilgamesh is said to have smitten the snake, and then the zu bird flew away to the mountains with its young, while the ki-sikil-lil-la-ke fearfully destroys its house and runs for the forest.[12][13] Kramer's identification is repeated without question or justification by Manfred Hutter in the article on Lilith in Dictionary of deities and demons in the Bible (1999).[14] According to a new source from Late Antiquity the Lilith(s) appear(s) in a Mandaic magic story where she (they) is (are) considered to represent the branch(es) of a tree with other demonic figures that form other parts of the tree.[15]
Suggested translations for the Tablet XII spirit in the tree include ki-sikil as "sacred place", lil as "spirit", and lil-la-ke as "water spirit".[16] but also simply "owl", given that the lil is building a home in the trunk of the tree.[17]
A connection between the Gilgamesh ki-sikil-lil-la-ke and the Jewish Lilith was rejected by Dietrich Opitz (1932)[18] and other scholars, finally being rejected on textual grounds by Sergio Ribichini (1978).[19]
Burney Relief, Babylon (1800-1750 BCE). The figure in the relief was sometimes identified with Lilith, based on a misreading of an outdated translation of the Epic of Gilgamesh. Modern research has identified the figure as either Ishtar or Ereshkigal.Kramer's translation of the Gilgamesh fragment was used by Henri Frankfort (1937)[20] and Emil Kraeling (1937)[21] to support identification of a woman with wings and bird-feet in the Burney Relief as related to Lilith, but this too is rejected by more recent scholarship.[22]
The Arslan Tash amulets are limestone plaques discovered in 1933 at Arslan Tash, the authenticity of which is disputed. William F. Albright, Theodor H. Gaster,[23] and others, accepted the amulets as a pre-Jewish source which shows that the name Lilith already existed in 7th century BC but Torczyner (1947) identified the amulets as a later Jewish source.[24]
The word lilu means spirit in Akkadian Language, and the male lili and female lilitu are found in incantation texts from Nippur, Babylonia c600 BC in both singular and plural forms.[25] Among the spirits the vardat lilitu, or maiden spirit bears some comparison with later Talmudic legends of Lilith.[26][27][28][29] A lili is related to witchcraft in the Sumerian incantation Text 313.[30]
Much of the popular information found in non-academic sources regarding Lilith is taken from reprints of out-of-copyright works which are now outdated,[31] for example Moses Gaster (1880),[32] R. Campbell Thompson (1908),[33] W. O. E. Oesterley (1930),[34] and confuses Jewish and Assyrian sources.
According to Siegmund Hurwitz, the figure of Lilith first appeared in a class of wind and storm demons or spirits as lilitu, in Sumer, circa 4000 BC.[35] The phonetic name Lilith is traditionally thought[by whom?] to have originated (as lilit) in Ancient Israel, and to have pre-dated at least 700 BC.[36]
Akkad, who were the earliest known Semitic speakers, and Sumer, who were the earliest civilizations inhabiting Mesopotamia, developed a very intimate cultural symbiosis with widespread bilingualism.[37] The bilateral influence of Sumerian and Akkadian is evident in all areas,[37] including syncretism between their gods, where each adopted the other's deities.[38] In Sumerian, Lilith was referred to as Ki-sikil-lil-la-ke, in Akkadian it was Ardat-lili.[39] The Assyrian and Babylonian cultures descended from these early cultures.
According to Siegmund Hurwitz, Lilith retained her Shedim characteristics throughout the entire Jewish tradition.[40] Shedim is plural for "spirit" or "demon". Figures that represent shedim are the shedu of Babylonian mythology. These figures were depicted as anthropomorphic, winged bulls, associated with wind. They were thought to guard palaces, cities, houses, and temples. In magical texts of that era, they could be either malevolent or benevolent.[41] The cult originated from Babylon, then spread to Canaan and eventually to Israel.[42] Human sacrifice was part of the practice and a sacrificial altar existed to the shedim next to that of the Yahweh cultus, although this practice was widely denounced by prophets who retained belief in Yahweh.[43]
In Jewish thought and literature Shedim were portrayed as quite malevolent. Some writings contend that they are storm-demons. Their creation is presented in three contradicting Jewish tales. The first is that during Creation, God created the shedim, but did not create their bodies and forgot them on the Shabbat when he rested. The second is that they are descendants of demons in the form of serpents, and the last states that they are simply descendants of Adam and Lilith. Another story asserts that after the Tower of Babel, some people were scattered and became Shedim, Ruchin, and Lilin.[citation needed]
Another proposed connection to Lilith is on the Sumerian king list, where Gilgamesh's father is named as Lilû.[44][45] Little is known of Lilû, Li in Sumerian means "Lord" and Lu means " shepherd". {{unrelated to this particular lilu |and he was said to interfere with women in their sleep and had functions of an incubus,[46] while Lilû [47] appeared to men in their erotic dreams.[48][49][50] Such qualities as lalu, or wandering about, and lulu, from Akkadian (Semitic) language have been associated as sources for the names Lila and Lilitû,[51] but some sumerologists[who?] say Lilû is purely Sumerian.[44]
The Assyrian lilitû were said to prey upon children and women[52] and were described as associated with lions, storms, desert, and disease.[citation needed] Early portrayals of such demons are known as having Zu bird talons for feet and wings.[53] They were highly sexually predatory towards men but were unable to copulate normally. They were thought to dwell in waste, desolate, and desert places. Like the Sumerian Dimme, a male wind demon named Pazuzu was thought to be effective against them.[54]
Lilith's epithet was "the beautiful maiden".[citation needed] She was described as having no milk in her breasts and as unable to bear any children.[49][55]
Other storm and night demons from a similar class are recorded from Akkadian texts[which?] around this period. The Ardat-lili[citation needed] is from Ardatû,[citation needed] which is a young unmarried woman or maiden, also sometimes a title of prostitutes, and lilitû.[56] These "maiden liltû" would come to men in their sleep and beget children from them.[citation needed] Sick men would also be described as being seized by Ardat-lili[48] Their male counterparts, similar to an incubus, were the Irdû-lili[57] These demons were originally storm and wind demons; however, later etymology made them into night demons.[58]
Lamashtû or Labartu (in Sumerian Dimme) was a very similar Mesopotamian demon to Lilitû, and Lilith seems to have inherited many of Lamashtû's myths.[59] She was considered a demi-goddess and daughter of Anu, the sky god.[60] Many incantations against her mention her status as a daughter of heaven and her exercising her free will over infants. This makes her different from the rest of the demons in Mesopotamia. Unlike her demonic peers, Lamashtû was not instructed by the gods to do her malevolence; she did it on her own accord. She was believed to seduce men, harm pregnant women, mothers, and neonates, kill foliage, and drink blood and was a cause of disease, sickness, and death. Some incantations[which?] describe her as "seven witches".[61] The space between her legs is as a scorpion, corresponding to the astrological sign of Scorpio. (Scorpio rules the genitals and sex organs.)[62] Her head is that of a lion, she has Anzu bird feet like Lilitû,[63] her breasts are suckled by a pig and a dog, and she rides the back of a donkey.[64] Other texts[which?] mention Lamashtû as the hand of Inanna/Ishtar in place of Lilitû and Ardat-lili.[65]
Two other Mesopotamian demons have a close relation to Lilitû: Gallû and Alû.[66] Alû was originally an asexual demon, who took on female attributes, but later became a male demon.[citation needed] Alû liked to roam the streets like a stray dog at night and creep into people's bedrooms as they slept to terrify them.[citation needed] He was described as being half-human and half-devil. He appears in Jewish lore[where?] as Ailo[citation needed]; here, he is used as one of Lilith's secret names[citation needed]. In other texts,[which?] Ailo is a daughter of Lilith's that has had intercourse with a man . The other demon, Gallû, is of the Utukkû group[citation needed]. Gallû’s name, like Utukkû, was also used as a general term[where?] for multiple demons.[67] Later[when?] Gallû appears as Gello, Gylo, or Gyllou in Greco–Byzantine mythology[which?] as a child-stealing and child-killing demon[citation needed]. This figure was, likewise, adapted by the Jews as Gilû and was also considered a secret name of Lilith's.[68]
Stephen Langdon (1914) claims that Babylonian texts depict Lilitû as the sacred prostitute of the goddess Ishtar, the Assyrian and Babylonian counterpart to the Sumerian Inanna.[69] Hurwitz similarly claims that older Sumerian accounts assert that Lilitû is called the handmaiden of Inanna or "hand of Inanna" . The Sumerian texts[which?] state, "Inanna has sent the beautiful, unmarried, and seductive prostitute Lilitû out into the fields and streets in order to lead men astray." That is why Lilitû is called the "hand of Inanna".[70][71]
There is an ongoing scholarly debate as to whether the concept of Lilith occurs in the Bible. The only possible occurrence is in the Book of Isaiah 34:13–15, describing the desolation of Edom, where the Hebrew word lilit (or lilith) appears in a list of eight unclean animals, some of which may have demonic associations. Since the word lilit (or lilith) is a hapax legomenon in the Hebrew Bible and the other seven terms in the list are better documented, the reading of scholars and translators is often guided by a decision about the complete list of eight creatures as a whole.[72][73] Quoting from Isaiah 34 (NAB):
(12) Her nobles shall be no more, nor shall kings be proclaimed there; all her princes are gone. (13) Her castles shall be overgrown with thorns, her fortresses with thistles and briers. She shall become an abode for jackals and a haunt for ostriches. (14) Wildcats shall meet with desert beasts, satyrs shall call to one another; There shall the lilith repose, and find for herself a place to rest. (15) There the hoot owl shall nest and lay eggs, hatch them out and gather them in her shadow; There shall the kites assemble, none shall be missing its mate. (16) Look in the book of the LORD and read: No one of these shall be lacking, For the mouth of the LORD has ordered it, and his spirit shall gather them there. (17) It is he who casts the lot for them, and with his hands he marks off their shares of her; They shall possess her forever, and dwell there from generation to generation.
In the Masoretic Text:
Hebrew: וּפָגְשׁוּ צִיִּים אֶת-אִיִּים, וְשָׂעִיר עַל-רֵעֵהוּ יִקְרָא; אַךְ-שָׁם הִרְגִּיעָה לִּילִית, וּמָצְאָה לָהּ מָנוֹח
Hebrew (ISO 259): u-pagšu ṣiyyim et-ʾiyyim w-saʿir ʿal-rēʿēhu yiqra; ʾak-šam hirgiʿa lilit u-maṣʾa lah manoaḫ[74]
34:14 "And shall-meet desert creatures et (particle) jackals
the goat he-calls his- fellow
lilit (lilith) she-rests and she-finds rest[75]
34:15 there she-shall-nest the great-owl, and she-lays-(eggs), and she-hatches, and she-gathers under her-shadow:
hawks[kites, gledes ] also they-gather, every one with its mate.
In the Dead Sea Scrolls, among the 19 fragments of Isaiah found at Qumran, the Great Isaiah Scroll (1Q1Isa) in 34:14 renders the creature as plural liliyyot (or liliyyoth).[76][77]
Eberhard Schrader (1875)[78] and Moritz Abraham Levy (1885)[79] suggest that Lilith was a goddess of the night, known also by the Jewish exiles in Babylon. Schrader and Levy's view is therefore partly dependent on a later dating of Deutero-Isaiah to the 6th century BC, and the presence of Jews in Babylon which would coincide with the possible references to the Līlītu in Babylonian demonology. However this view is challenged by some modern research such as by Judit M. Blair (2009) who considers that the context indicates unclean animals.[80]
The Septuagint translates the reference into Greek as onokentauros, apparently for lack of a better word, since also the se'irim, "satyrs", earlier in the verse are translated with daimon onokentauros. The "wild beasts of the island and the desert" are omitted altogether, and the "crying to his fellow" is also done by the daimon onokentauros.[81]
The early 5th-century Vulgate translated the same word as Lamia.[82][83]
et occurrent daemonia onocentauris et pilosus clamabit alter ad alterum ibi cubavit lamia et invenit sibi requiem
—Isaiah (Isaias Propheta) 34.14, Vulgate
The translation is: "And demons shall meet with monsters, and one hairy one shall cry out to another; there the lamia has lain down and found rest for herself...".
Wyclif's Bible (1395) preserves the Latin rendering Lamia:
Isa 34:15 Lamya schal ligge there, and foond rest there to hir silf.
The Bishops' Bible of Matthew Parker (1568) from the Latin:
Isa 34:14 there shall the Lamia lye and haue her lodgyng.
Douay-Rheims Bible (1582/1610) also preserves the Latin rendering Lamia:
Isa 34:14 "And demons and monsters shall meet, and the hairy ones shall cry out one to another, there hath the lamia lain down, and found rest for herself."
The Geneva Bible of William Whittington (1587) from the Hebrew:
Isa 34:14 and the shricheowle shall rest there, and shall finde for her selfe a quiet dwelling.
Then the King James Version of the Bible (1611):
Isa 34:14 "The wild beasts of the desert shall also meet with the wild beasts of the island, and the satyr shall cry to his fellow; the screech owl also shall rest there, and find for herself a place of rest."
The "screech owl" translation of the KJV is, together with the "owl" (yanšup, probably a water bird) in 34:11 and the "great owl" (qippoz, properly a snake) of 34:15, an attempt to render the passage by choosing suitable animals for difficult-to-translate Hebrew words.
Later translations include:
night-owl (Young, 1898)
night-spectre (Rotherham, Emphasized Bible, 1902)
night monster (ASV, 1901; JPS 1917, Good News Translation, 1992; NASB, 1995)
vampires (Moffatt Translation, 1922)
night hag (RSV, 1947)
Lilith (Jerusalem Bible, 1966)
lilith (New American Bible, 1970)
Lilith (NRSV, 1989)
Lilith (The Message (Bible), Peterson, 1993)
night creature (NIV, 1978; NKJV, 1982; NLT, 1996, TNIV)
nightjar (New World Translation, 1984)
night bird (English Standard Version, 2001)
Major sources in Jewish tradition regarding Lilith in chronological order include:
c. 40–10BCE Dead Sea Scrolls – Songs for a Sage (4Q510-511)
c.200 Mishnah – not mentioned
c.500 Gemara of the Talmud
c.800 The Alphabet of Ben-Sira
c.900 Midrash Abkir
c.1260 Treatise on the Left Emanation, Spain
c.1280 Zohar, Spain.
The Dead Sea Scrolls contains one indisputable reference to Lilith in Songs of the Sage (4Q510-511)[84] fragment 1:
And I, the Instructor, proclaim His glorious splendour so as to frighten and to te[rrify] all the spirits of the destroying angels, spirits of the bastards, demons, Lilith, howlers, and [desert dwellers…] and those which fall upon men without warning to lead them astray from a spirit of understanding and to make their heart and their […] desolate during the present dominion of wickedness and predetermined time of humiliations for the sons of lig[ht], by the guilt of the ages of [those] smitten by iniquity – not for eternal destruction, [bu]t for an era of humiliation for transgression.[85]
As with the Massoretic Text of Isaiah 34:14, and therefore unlike the plural liliyyot (or liliyyoth) in the Isaiah scroll 34:14, lilit in 4Q510 is singular, this liturgical text both cautions against the presence of supernatural malevolence and assumes familiarity with Lilith; distinct from the biblical text, however, this passage does not function under any socio-political agenda, but instead serves in the same capacity as An Exorcism (4Q560) and Songs to Disperse Demons (11Q11).[citation needed] The text is thus, to a community "deeply involved in the realm of demonology",[86] an exorcism hymn.
Joseph M. Baumgarten (1991) identified the unnamed woman of The Seductress (4Q184) as related to female demon.[87] However John J. Collins [88] regards this identification as "intriguing" but that it is "safe to say" that (4Q184) is based on the strange woman of Proverbs 2, 5, 7, 9:
Her house sinks down to death,
And her course leads to the shades.
All who go to her cannot return
And find again the paths of life.
— Proverbs 2:18–19
Her gates are gates of death, and from the entrance of the house
She sets out towards Sheol.
None of those who enter there will ever return,
And all who possess her will descend to the Pit.
— 4Q184
Lilith does not occur in the Mishnah. There are three references to Lilith in the Babylonian Talmud in Gemara on three separate Tractates of the Mishnah:
"Rab Judah citing Samuel ruled: If an abortion had the likeness of Lilith its mother is unclean by reason of the birth, for it is a child but it has wings." (Babylonian Talmud on Tractate Nidda 24b)[89]
"[Expounding upon the curses of womanhood] In a Baraitha it was taught: She grows long hair like Lilith, sits when making water like a beast, and serves as a bolster for her husband.” (Babylonian Talmud on Tractate Eruvin 100b)
"R. Hanina said: One may not sleep in a house alone [in a lonely house], and whoever sleeps in a house alone is seized by Lilith.” (Babylonian Talmud on Tractate Shabbath 151b)
The above statement by Hanina may be related to the belief that nocturnal emissions engendered the birth of demons: "R. Jeremiah b. Eleazar further stated: In all those years [130 years after his expulsion from the Garden of Eden] during which Adam was under the ban he begot ghosts and male demons and female demons [or night demons], for it is said in Scripture: And Adam lived a hundred and thirty years and begot a son in own likeness, after his own image, from which it follows that until that time he did not beget after his own image… When he saw that through him death was ordained as punishment he spent a hundred and thirty years in fasting, severed connection with his wife for a hundred and thirty years, and wore clothes of fig on his body for a hundred and thirty years. – That statement [of R. Jeremiah] was made in reference to the semen which he emitted accidentally.” (Babylonian Talmud on Tractate Eruvin 18b)
An individual Lilith, along with Bagdana "king of the lilits", is one of the demons to feature prominently in protective spells in the eighty surviving Jewish occult incantation bowls from Sassanid Empire Babylon (4th-6th Century CE).[90] These bowls were buried upside down in houses to trap the demon, and almost every Jewish house in Nippur was found to have such protective bowls buried.[91] One bowl contains the following inscription commissioned from a Jewish occultist to protect a woman called Rashnoi and her husband from Lilith:
Thou liliths, male lili and female lilith, hag and ghool, I adjure you by the Strong One of Abraham, by the Rock of Isaac, by the Shaddai of Jacob, by Yah Ha-Shem by Yah his memorial, to turn away from this Rashnoi b. M. and from Geyonai b. M. her husband. [Here is] your divorce and writ and letter of separation, sent through holy angels. Amen, Amen, Selah, Halleluyah! (image)
— Excerpt from translation in Aramaic Incantation Texts from Nippur James Alan Montgomery 2011 p156[92]
The pseudepigraphic[93] 8th-10th centuries Alphabet of Ben Sira is considered to be the oldest form of the story of Lilith as Adam's first wife. Whether this particular tradition is older is not known. Scholars tend to date the Alphabet between the 8th and 10th centuries AD.
In the text an amulet is inscribed with the names of three angels (Senoy, Sansenoy, and Semangelof) and placed around the neck of newborn boys in order to protect them from the lilin until their circumcision.[94] The amulets used against Lilith that were thought to derive from this tradition are in fact, dated as being much older.[95] The concept of Eve having a predecessor is not exclusive to the Alphabet, and is not a new concept, as it can be found in Genesis Rabbah. However, the idea that Lilith was the predecessor is exclusive to the Alphabet.
The idea in the text that Adam had a wife prior to Eve may have developed from an interpretation of the Book of Genesis and its dual creation accounts; while Genesis 2:22 describes God's creation of Eve from Adam's rib, an earlier passage, 1:27, already indicates that a woman had been made: "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them." The Alphabet text places Lilith's creation after God's words in Genesis 2:18 that "it is not good for man to be alone"; in this text God forms Lilith out of the clay from which he made Adam but she and Adam bicker. Lilith claims that since she and Adam were created in the same way they were equal and she refuses to submit to him:[96] The background and purpose of The Alphabet of Ben-Sira is unclear. It is a collection of stories about heroes of the Bible and Talmud, it may have been a collection of folk-tales, a refutation of Christian, Karaite, or other separatist movements; its content seems so offensive to contemporary Jews that it was even suggested that it could be an anti-Jewish satire,[97] although, in any case, the text was accepted by the Jewish mystics of medieval Germany.
The Alphabet of Ben-Sira is the earliest surviving source of the story, and the conception that Lilith was Adam's first wife became only widely known with the 17th century Lexicon Talmudicum of German scholar Johannes Buxtorf.
In this folk tradition that arose in the early Middle Ages Lilith, a dominant female demon, became identified with Asmodeus, King of Demons, as his queen.[98] Asmodeus was already well known by this time because of the legends about him in the Talmud. Thus, the merging of Lilith and Asmodeus was inevitable.[99] The second myth of Lilith grew to include legends about another world and by some accounts this other world existed side by side with this one, Yenne Velt is Yiddish for this described "Other World". In this case Asmodeus and Lilith were believed to procreate demonic offspring endlessly and spread chaos at every turn.[100] Many disasters were blamed on both of them, causing wine to turn into vinegar, men to be impotent, women unable to give birth, and it was Lilith who was blamed for the loss of infant life. The presence of Lilith and her cohorts were considered very real at this time.[citation needed]
Two primary characteristics are seen in these legends about Lilith: Lilith as the incarnation of lust, causing men to be led astray, and Lilith as a child-killing witch, who strangles helpless neonates. Although these two aspects of the Lilith legend seemed to have evolved separately, there is hardly a tale where she encompasses both roles.[100] But the aspect of the witch-like role that Lilith plays broadens her archetype of the destructive side of witchcraft. Such stories are commonly found among Jewish folklore.[100]
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Kabbalistic mysticism attempted to establish a more exact relationship between Lilith and the Deity. With her major characteristics having been well-developed by the end of the Talmudic period, after six centuries had elapsed between the Aramaic incantation texts that mention Lilith and the early Spanish Kabbalistic writings in the 13th century, she reappears, and her life history becomes known in greater mythological detail.[101]
Her creation is described in many alternative versions. One mentions her creation as being before Adam's, on the fifth day, because the "living creatures" with whose swarms God filled the waters included none other than Lilith. A similar version, related to the earlier Talmudic passages, recounts how Lilith was fashioned with the same substance as Adam was, shortly before. A third alternative version states that God originally created Adam and Lilith in a manner that the female creature was contained in the male. Lilith's soul was lodged in the depths of the Great Abyss. When God called her, she joined Adam. After Adam's body was created a thousand souls from the Left (evil) side attempted to attach themselves to him. However, God drove them off. Adam was left lying as a body without a soul. Then a cloud descended and God commanded the earth to produce a living soul. This God breathed into Adam, who began to spring to life and his female was attached to his side. God separated the female from Adam's side. The female side was Lilith, whereupon she flew to the Cities of the Sea and attacks humankind. Yet another version claims that Lilith was not created by God, but emerged as a divine entity that was born spontaneously, either out of the Great Supernal Abyss or out of the power of an aspect of God (the Gevurah of Din). This aspect of God, one of his ten attributes (Sefirot), at its lowest manifestation has an affinity with the realm of evil and it is out of this that Lilith merged with Samael.[102] According to The Alphabet of Ben-Sira Lilith was Adam's first wife.
An alternative story links Lilith with the creation of luminaries. The "first light", which is the light of Mercy (one of the Sefirot), appeared on the first day of creation when God said "Let there be light". This light became hidden and the Holiness became surrounded by a husk of evil. "A husk (klippa) was created around the brain" and this husk spread and brought out another husk, which was Lilith.[103]
The first medieval source to depict Adam and Lilith in full was the Midrash A.B.K.I.R. (ca. 10th century), which was followed by the Zohar and Kabbalistic writings. Adam is said to be perfect until he recognizes either his sin or Cain's fratricide that is the cause of bringing death into the world. He then separates from holy Eve, sleeps alone, and fasts for 130 years. During this time Lilith, also known as Pizna, desired his beauty and came to him against his will.
The mystical writing of two brothers Jacob and Isaac Hacohen, which predates the Zohar by a few decades, states that Samael and Lilith are in the shape of an androgynous being, double-faced, born out of the emanation of the Throne of Glory and corresponding in the spiritual realm to Adam and Eve, who were likewise born as a hermaphrodite. The two twin androgynous couples resembled each other and both "were like the image of Above"; that is, that they are reproduced in a visible form of an androgynous deity.
19. In answer to your question concerning Lilith, I shall explain to you the essence of the matter. Concerning this point there is a received tradition from the ancient Sages who made use of the Secret Knowledge of the Lesser Palaces, which is the manipulation of demons and a ladder by which one ascends to the prophetic levels. In this tradition it is made clear that Samael and Lilith were born as one, similar to the form of Adam and Eve who were also born as one, reflecting what is above. This is the account of Lilith which was received by the Sages in the Secret Knowledge of the Palaces.[104]
Another version[clarification needed] that was also current among Kabbalistic circles in the Middle Ages establishes Lilith as the first of Samael's four wives: Lilith, Naamah, Igrath, and Mahalath. Each of them are mothers of demons and have their own hosts and unclean spirits in no number.[105] The marriage of archangel Samael and Lilith was arranged by "Blind Dragon", who is the counterpart of "the dragon that is in the sea". Blind Dragon acts as an intermediary between Lilith and Samael:
Blind Dragon rides Lilith the Sinful – may she be extirpated quickly in our days, Amen! – And this Blind Dragon brings about the union between Samael and Lilith. And just as the Dragon that is in the sea (Isa. 27:1) has no eyes, likewise Blind Dragon that is above, in the likeness of a spiritual form, is without eyes, that is to say, without colors.... (Patai81:458) Samael is called the Slant Serpent, and Lilith is called the Tortuous Serpent.[106]
The marriage of Samael and Lilith is known as the "Angel Satan" or the "Other God", but it was not allowed to last. To prevent Lilith and Samael's demonic children Lilin from filling the world, God castrated Samael. In many 17th century Kabbalistic books, this mythologem is based on the identification of "Leviathan the Slant Serpent and Leviathan the Torturous Serpent" and a reinterpretation of an old Talmudic myth where God castrated the male Leviathan and slew the female Leviathan in order to prevent them from mating and thereby destroying the earth.[107] After Samael became castrated and Lilith was unable to fornicate with him, she left him to couple with men who experience nocturnal emissions. A 15th or 16th century Kabbalah text states that God has "cooled" the female Leviathan, meaning that he has made Lilith infertile and she is a mere fornication.
The Treatise on the Left Emanation says that there are two Liliths, the lesser being married to the great demon Asmodeus.[108][109]
Another passage charges Lilith as being a tempting serpent of Eve.[110]
References to Lilith in the Zohar include the following:
She wanders about at night, vexing the sons of men and causing them to defile themselves (19b)
This passage may be related to the mention of Lilith in Talmud Shabbath 151b (see above), and also to Talmud Eruvin 18b where nocturnal emissions are connected with the begettal of demons.
Raphael Patai states that older sources state clearly that after Lilith's Red Sea sojourn (mentioned also in Louis Ginzberg's Legends of the Jews), she returned to Adam and begat children from him. In the Zohar, however, Lilith is said to have succeeded in begetting offspring from Adam during their short-lived sexual experience. Lilith leaves Adam in Eden, as she is not a suitable helpmate for him. She returns, later, to force herself upon him. However, before doing so she attaches herself to Cain and bears him numerous spirits and demons.[111]
According to Gershom Scholem, the author of the Zohar, Rabbi Moses de Leon, was aware of the folk tradition of Lilith. He was also aware of another story, possibly older, that may be conflicting.[112] According to the Zohar, two female spirits, Lilith and Naamah — found Adam, desired his beauty which was like that of the sun disk, and lay with him. The issue of these unions were demons and spirits called "the plagues of humankind".[111] The added explanation was that it was through Adam's own sin that Lilith overcame him against his will.
A copy of Jean de Pauly's translation of the Zohar in the Ritman Library contains an inserted late 17th Century printed Hebrew sheet for use in magical amulets where the prophet Elijah confronts Lilith.[113] In this encounter, she had come to feast on the flesh of the mother, with a host of demons, and take the newborn from her. She eventually reveals her secret names to Elijah in the conclusion. These names are said to cause Lilith to lose her power: lilith, abitu, abizu, hakash, avers hikpodu, ayalu, matrota…[114] In others, probably informed by The Alphabet of Ben-Sira, she is Adam's first wife. (Yalqut Reubeni, Zohar 1:34b, 3:19[115])
Lilith is listed as one of the Qliphoth, corresponding to the Sephirah Malkuth in the Kabbalistic Tree of Life. The demon Lilith, the evil woman, is described as a beautiful woman, who transforms into a blue, butterfly-like demon, and it is associated with the power of seduction.[citation needed]
The Qliphah is the unbalanced power of a Sephirah. Malkuth is the lowest Sephirah, the realm of the earth, into which all the divine energy flows, and in which the divine plan is worked out. However, its unbalanced form is as Lilith, the seductress. The material world, and all of its pleasures, is the ultimate seductress, and can lead to materialism unbalanced by the spirituality of the higher spheres. This ultimately leads to a descent into animal consciousness. The balance must therefore be found between Malkuth and Kether, to find order and harmony.[citation needed]
In the Latin Vulgate Book of Isaiah 34:14, Lilith is translated lamia.
According to Siegmund Hurwitz the Talmudic Lilith is connected with the Greek Lamia, who, according to Hurwitz, likewise governed a class of child stealing lamia-demons. Lamia bore the title "child killer" and was feared for her malevolence, like Lilith. She has different conflicting origins and is described as having a human upper body from the waist up and a serpentine body from the waist down.[116] One source states simply that she is a daughter of the goddess Hecate. Another, that Lamia was subsequently cursed by the goddess Hera to have stillborn children because of her association with Zeus; alternatively, Hera slew all of Lamia's children (except Scylla) in anger that Lamia slept with her husband, Zeus. The grief caused Lamia to turn into a monster that took revenge on mothers by stealing their children and devouring them.[117] Lamia had a vicious sexual appetite that matched her cannibalistic appetite for children. She was notorious for being a vampiric spirit and loved sucking men’s blood.[118] Her gift was the "mark of a Sibyl", a gift of second sight. Zeus was said to have given her the gift of sight. However, she was "cursed" to never be able to shut her eyes so that she would forever obsess over her dead children. Taking pity on Lamia, Zeus gave her the ability to remove and replace her eyes from their sockets.[117]
The Empusae were a class of supernatural demons that Lamia was said to have birthed. Hecate would often send them against travelers. They consumed or scared to death any of the people where they inhabited. They bear many similarities to lilim. It has been suggested that later medieval lore of the succubi or lilim is derived from this myth.[citation needed]
Lilith (Arabic: ليليث) is not found in the Quran or Haddith. The Sufi occult writer Ahmad al-Buni (d.1225) in his Shams al-Ma'arif al-Kubra (Sun of the Great Knowledge, Arabic: شمس المعارف الكبرى) mentions a demon called the mother of children a term also used "in one place"[119] in the 13th-century Jewish Zohar and is therefore probably derived from Jewish mythology. Another Islamic legend recounts an encounter between King Solomon and a giant female demon, Karina.[120]
Lilith's earliest appearance in the literature of the Romantic period (1789–1832) was in Goethe's 1808 work Faust: The First Part of the Tragedy.[121]
The Pre-Raphaelite Brotherhood, which developed around 1848,[122] were greatly influenced by Goethe's work on the theme of Lilith. In 1863, Dante Gabriel Rossetti of the Brotherhood began painting what would later be his first rendition of Lady Lilith, a painting he expected to be his "best picture hitherto"[122] Symbols appearing in the painting allude to the "femme fatale" reputation of the Romantic Lilith: poppies (death and cold) and white roses (sterile passion). Accompanying his Lady Lilith painting from 1866, Rossetti wrote a sonnet entitled Lilith, which was first published in Swinburne's pamphlet-review (1868), Notes on the Royal Academy Exhibition.[123] The poem and the picture appeared together alongside Rossetti's painting Sibylla Palmifera and the sonnet Soul's Beauty. In 1881, the Lilith sonnet was renamed "Body's Beauty" in order to contrast it and Soul's Beauty. The two were placed sequentially in The House of Life collection (sonnets number 77 and 78).[122]
Rossetti wrote in 1870:
Lady [Lilith]...represents a Modern Lilith combing out her abundant golden hair and gazing on herself in the glass with that self-absorption by whose strange fascination such natures draw others within their own circle.
—Rossetti, W. M. ii.850, D.G. Rossetti's emphasis[122]
This is in accordance with Jewish folk tradition, which associates Lilith both with long hair (a symbol of dangerous feminine seductive power in both Jewish and Islamic cultures), and with possessing women by entering them through mirrors.[124]
The Victorian poet Robert Browning re-envisioned Lilith in his poem "Adam, Lilith, and Eve". First published in 1883, the poem uses the traditional myths surrounding the triad of Adam, Eve, and Lilith. Browning depicts Lilith and Eve as being friendly and complicitous with each other, as they sit together on either side of Adam. Under the threat of death, Eve admits that she never loved Adam, while Lilith confesses that she always loved him:[125] Browning focused on Lilith's emotional attributes, rather than that of her ancient demon predecessors.[126]
Scottish author George MacDonald also wrote a fantasy novel entitled Lilith, first published in 1895. MacDonald employed the character of Lilith in service to a spiritual drama about sin and redemption, in which Lilith finds a hard-won salvation. Many of the traditional characteristics of Lilith mythology are present in the author's depiction: Long dark hair, pale skin, a hatred and fear of children and babies, and an obsession with gazing at herself in a mirror. MacDonald's Lilith also has vampiric qualities: She bites people and sucks their blood for sustenance.
Australian poet and scholar Christopher John Brennan (1870–1932), included a section titled "Lilith" in his major work "Poems: 1913" (Sydney : G. B. Philip and Son, 1914). The "Lilith" section contains thirteen poems exploring the Lilith myth and is central to the meaning of the collection as a whole.
The depiction of Lilith in Romanticism continues to be popular among feminists, Wiccans, satanists, and in other modern occultism.[122] Few magical orders dedicated to the undercurrent of Lilith, featuring initiations specifically related to the arcana of the "first mother" exist. Two organizations that use initiations and magic associated with Lilith are the Ordo Antichristianus Illuminati and the Order of Phosphorus. Lilith appears as a succubus in Aleister Crowley's De Arte Magica. Lilith was also one of the middle names of Crowley’s first child, Nuit Ma Ahathoor Hecate Sappho Jezebel Lilith Crowley (b. 1904, d.1906), and Lilith is sometimes identified with Babalon in Thelemic writings. Many early occult writers that contributed to modern day Wicca expressed special reverence for Lilith. Charles Leland associated Aradia with Lilith: Aradia, says Leland, is Herodias, who was regarded in stregheria folklore as being associated with Diana as chief of the witches. Leland further notes that Herodias is a name that comes from West Asia, where it denoted an early form of Lilith.[127][128]
Gerald Gardner asserted that there was continuous historical worship of Lilith to present day, and that her name is sometimes given to the goddess being personified in the coven, by the priestess. This idea was further attested by Doreen Valiente, who cited her as a presiding goddess of the Craft: “the personification of erotic dreams, the suppressed desire for delights”.[129] In some contemporary concepts, Lilith is viewed as the embodiment of the Goddess, a designation that is thought to be shared with what these faiths believe to be her counterparts: Inanna, Ishtar, Asherah, Anath and Isis.[130] According to one view, Lilith was originally a Sumerian, Babylonian, or Hebrew mother goddess of childbirth, children, women, and sexuality[131][132][133] who later became demonized due to the rise of patriarchy.[134] Other modern views hold that Lilith is a dark moon goddess on par with the Hindu Kali.[135]
The western mystery tradition associates Lilith with the Klipoth of kabbalah. Samael Aun Weor in The Pistis Sophia Unveiled writes that homosexuals are the "henchmen of Lilith". Likewise, women who undergo willful abortion, and those who support this practice are "seen in the sphere of Lilith".[136] Dion Fortune writes, "The Virgin Mary is reflected in Lilith",[137] and that Lilith is the source of "lustful dreams".[137]
This section only includes direct references to the Lilith of Jewish legend (as documented in Jewish sources) in popular culture. It does not include references to the many dozens of derivative female characters called "Lilith" in comics, video games, cartoons, supernatural films, TV series, and so on. For which please see Lilith (disambiguation) which has a complete listing of characters named Lilith.
The legendary Lilith, presumed wife of Adam, appears in various fantasy novels. For example Lilith is a principal character in Stephen Brust's To Reign in Hell, (1984) where she is the love interest of both Satan and Lucifer at varying points. Lilith is the primary consort of the main character while he holds the office of Satan in Piers Anthony's fantasy novel For Love of Evil (1988). Her character and history (in times back to the Garden of Eden) is explored more in depth in the eighth book of that series, Under a Velvet Cloak. In Cassandra Clare's children's fantasy series The Mortal Instruments (2007–2010) Lilith is the first wife of Adam in the garden of Eden.
The episode Lilith: Queen of the Night of The Naked Archaeologist dealt with Lilith and her origins.
In 2010 the British metal band Cradle of Filth made a concept album based upon Lilith, entitled Darkly, Darkly, Venus Aversa. Lilith/Eve on the album Concentration (1993) by the American industrial rock band Machines of Loving Grace is also based on this legend.
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What if Lilith was demoted and disempowered shortly after the 'creation' or 'genetic-engineering' of male and female human-beings? What if Lilith was replaced? What if there is an Anti-Lilith (or 'In Place of Lilith')? What if this hypothetical 'Anti-Lilith' is also the 'Anti-Christ'? What if the hypothetical 'Anti-Lilith' and 'Anti-Christ' have been ruling Earth and Humanity for thousands of years? Once again, what if Michael = Lilith = Lucifer = Jesus? (to just name a few possible name-equivalents and reincarnations) Once again, please don't crucify me! Here is the rest of the Wiki material for Lilith:
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^ Tree of souls: the mythology of Judaism, By Howard Schwartz, page 218
^ Eve and Adam: Jewish, Christian, and Muslim readings on Genesis and gender By Kristen E. Kvam, Linda S. Schearing, Valarie H. Ziegler, pp 220–221, Indiana University Press, 1999
^ Erich Ebeling, Bruno Meissner, Dietz Otto Edzard Reallexikon der Assyriologie Volume 9 p47,50
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^ Sayce (1887)[page needed]
^ Fossey (1902)[page needed]
^ Kramer, S. N. Gilgamesh and the Huluppu-Tree: A Reconstructed Sumerian Text. Assyriological Studies 10. Chicago. 1938
^ George, A. The epic of Gilgamesh: the Babylonian epic poem and other texts in Akkadian 2003 p100 Tablet XII. Appendix The last Tablet in the 'Series of Gilgamesh'
^ Kramer translates the zu as "owl", but most often it is translated as "eagle", "vulture", or "bird of prey".
^ "Chicago Assyrian Dictionary". Chicago Assyrian Dictionary. Chicago: University of Chicago. 1956.
^ Hurwitz (1980) p. 49
^ Article in K. van der Toorn, Bob Becking, Pieter Willem van der Horst - 1999 p520-521, article cites Hutter's own 1988 work Behexung, Entsuhnung und Heilung Eisenbrauns 1988. p224-228
^ Müller-Kessler, C. (2002) "A Charm against Demons of Time", in C. Wunsch (ed.), Mining the Archives. Festschrift Christopher Walker on the Occasion of his 60th Birthday (Dresden), p. 185
^ Roberta Sterman Sabbath Sacred tropes: Tanakh, New Testament, and Qur'an as literature and culture 2009
^ Sex and gender in the ancient Near East: proceedings of the 47th Rencontre Assyriologique Internationale, Helsinki, July 2–6, 2001, Part 2 p481
^ Opitz, D. Ausgrabungen und Forschungsreisen Ur. AfO 8: 328
^ Ribichini, S. Lilith nell-albero Huluppu Pp. 25 in Atti del 1° Convegno Italiano sul Vicino Oriente Antico, Rome, 1976
^ Frankfort, H. The Burney Relief AfO 12: 128, 1937
^ Kraeling, E. G. A Unique Babylonian Relief BASOR 67: 168. 1937
^ RLA 7:25
^ Gaster, T. H. 1942. A Canaanite Magical Text. Or 11:
^ Torczyner, H. 1947. A Hebrew Incantation against Night-Demons from Biblical Times. JNES 6: 18?9.
^ Lesses, Rebecca Exe(o)rcising Power: Women as Sorceresses, Exorcists, and Demonesses in Babylonian Jewish Society of Late Antiquity 2001 JAAR Journal of The American Academy of Religion Abstact pp. 343–375
^ Georges Contenau La Magie chez les Assyriens et les Babyloniens, Paris, 1947.
^ Georges Contenau Everyday Life in Babylon and Assyria translated by KR Maxwell-Hyslop and AR Maxwell-Hyslop (New York: St. Martin's Press, 1954)
^ Fauth, Wolfgang (1982) Lilitu und die Eulen von Pylos. In Tischler, Johann. (ed.). Serta Indogermanica: Festschrift für Günter Neumann zum 60. Geburtstag. pp. 60–61
^ S. Lackenbacher, RA 65 (1971)
^ Graham Cunningham Deliver me from evil: Mesopotamian incantations, 2500–1500 BC 1997 p104
^ Alan Humm's Lilith Bibliography from the Ioudaios academic list expanded from the bibliography of Thomas R. W. Longstaff
^ "Beiträge zur vergleichende Sagen- und Märchenkunde. X. Lilith und die drei Angel", Monatschrift für Geschichte und Wissenschaft des Judenstum 29 (1880) – to be distinguished from Gaster, Theodor Herzl. "A Canaanite Magical Text". Orientalia, 11. Rome: Pontificium Institutum Biblicum, 1942. pp. 41–79.
^ Semitic Magic – Its Origins and Development
^ Hebrew Religion: Its Origin and Development (1930) Page 70
^ Hurwitz, p.50
^ Hurwitz (1980)p.54,55
^ a b Deutscher, Guy (2007). Syntactic Change in Akkadian: The Evolution of Sentential Complementation. Oxford University Press US. pp. 20–21. ISBN 9780199532223. http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=XFwUxmCdG94C.
^ Bottero (2001:45)
^ Hurwitz (1980) p.51-52
^ Hurwitz pp. 53–54
^ Leick 1998: 30–31
^ Hurwitx pp. 54–55
^ Hurwitz p. 54
^ a b Hurwitz (1980) p.50
^ Patai (1942)[page needed]
^ Epilepsy in Babylonia By Marten Stol, p 46, Brill, 1993}}
^ p52
^ a b Hurwitz (1980) p.52
^ a b Raphael Patai[page needed]
^ T.H. Jacobsen, "Mesopotamia", in H. Frankfort et al., Before Philosophy: The Intellectual Adventure of Ancient Man.
^ R.C. Thompson 1908 p.66
^ The Devil: perceptions of evil from antiquity to primitive Christianity by Jeffrey Burton Russell, p. 92, Cornell University Press
^ Hurwitz (1980) p.75
^ Black, Jeremy and Anthony Green (2003). Gods, Demons, and Symbols of Ancient Mesopotamia. Austin, TX: University of Texas Press. p. 118.
^ Erich Ebeling and Bruno Meissner, Reallexicon der Assyriologie, Walter de Gruyter 1990[page needed]
^ Hurwitz (1980) p.51
^ Raphael Patai p.222
^ Raphael Patai, p. 221 & 222, The Hebrew Goddess: Third Enlarged Edition, ISBN 978-0-8143-2271-0
^ Hurwitz (1980) pp. 34–35
^ Dūr-Katlimmu 2008 and beyond edited by Hartmut Kühne, p 243, Otto Harrassowitz Verlag, 2010
^ Britannica, s.v. "Lamashtu"
^ Sydney Omarr's Day-by-Day Astrological Guide for Gemini 2011: May 21–June 20 By Trish MacGregor, Rob MacGregor, p 93, Penguin, 2010; Source covers information besides Gemini, and works for this citation
^ Spirit and reason: the embodied character of Ezekiel's symbolic thinking by Dale Launderville p 275, Baylor University Press, 2007
^ The orientalizing revolution: Near Eastern influence on Greek culture in the early archaic age by Walter Burkert, Margaret E. Pinder p 83, Harvard University Press, 1995
^ Every breath you take: stalking narratives and the law by Ôrît Kāmîr, p 30, University of Michigan Press, 2001
^ Hurwitz (1980) p.39 But this ref gives no source.
^ Hurwitz, Siegmund (1980). Lilith-The First Eve: Historical and Psychological Aspects of the Dark Feminine. p. 40. http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=6T9Y1EhiwDUC&oi=fnd&pg=PA40#v=onepage&q&f=false.
^ Hurwitz (1980) p.41
^ Tammuz and Ishtar: a monograph upon Babylonian religion p74,75
^ S.H. Langdon p.74 Stephen Herbert Langdon, The Mythology of All Races, Volume V: Semitic, ed. John Arnott MacCulloch New York: Cooper Square Publishers, 1964
^ Hurwitz (1980) p.58
^ Jan De Waard Translators Handbook on Isaiah; Delitzsch Isaiah
^ See The animals mentioned in the Bible Henry Chichester Hart 1888, and more modern sources; also entries Brown Driver Briggs Hebrew Lexicon for tsiyyim... 'iyyim... sayir... liylith... qippowz... dayah
^ The consonants p/k/t may also be pronounced: ph/kh/th.
^ (מנוח manowach, used for birds as Noah's dove, Gen.8:9 and also humans as Israel, Deut.28:65; Naomi, Ruth 3:1).
^ Blair J. "De-demonising the Old Testament" p.27
^ Christopher R. A. Morray-Jones A transparent illusion: the dangerous vision of water in Hekhalot Vol.59 p258 2002 "Early evidence of the belief in a plurality of liliths is provided by the Isaiah scroll from Qumran, which gives the name as liliyyot, and by the targum to Isaiah, which, in both cases, reads" (Targum reads: "when Lilith the Queen of [Sheba] and of Margod fell upon them.")
^ Jahrbuch für Protestantische Theologie 1, 1875. p128
^ Levy, [Moritz] A.[braham] (1817–1872)]. "Zeitschrift der deutschen morgenländischen Gesellschaft". Zeitschrift der deutschen morgenländischen Gesellschaft. ZDMG 9. 1885. pp. 470, 484. http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=338&letter=L.
^ Judit M. Blair De-Demonising the Old Testament – An Investigation of Azazel, Lilit (Lilith), Deber (Dever), Qeteb (Qetev) and Reshep (Resheph) in the Hebrew Bible. Forschungen zum Alten Testament 2 Reihe, Mohr Siebeck 2009 ISBN 3-16-150131-4
^ 34:14 καὶ συναντήσουσιν δαιμόνια ὀνοκενταύροις καὶ βοήσουσιν ἕτερος πρὸς τὸν ἕτερον ἐκεῖ ἀναπαύσονται ὀνοκένταυροι εὗρον γὰρ αὑτοῖς ἀνάπαυσιν
^ "The Old Testament (Vulgate)/Isaias propheta". Wikisource (Latin). http://la.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Old_Testament_(Vulgate)/Isaias_propheta. Retrieved 2007-09-24.
^ "Parallel Latin Vulgate Bible and Douay-Rheims Bible and King James Bible; The Complete Sayings of Jesus Christ". LatinVulgate.com. http://www.latinvulgate.com/verse.aspx?t=0&b=27&c=34. Retrieved 2007-09-24.
^ Michael T. Davis, Brent A. Strawn Qumran studies: new approaches, new questions 2007 p47 "... two manuscripts that date to the Herodian period, with 4Q510 slightly earlier"
^ Bruce Chilton, Darrell Bock, Daniel M. Gurtner A Comparative Handbook to the Gospel of Mark p84
^ Revue de Qumrân 1991 p133
^ Baumgarten, J. M. 'On the Nature of the Seductress in 4Q184', Revue de Qumran 15 (1991–2), 133–143; 'The seductress of Qumran', Bible Review 17 no 5 (2001), 21–23; 42;
^ Collins, Jewish wisdom in the Hellenistic age
^ Tractate Niddah in the Mishnah is the only tractate from the Order of Tohorot which has Talmud on it. The Jerusalem Talmud is incomplete here, but the Babylonian Talmud on Tractate Niddah (2a–76b) is complete.
^ Janet Howe Gaines Biblical Archaeology Review Lilith: Seductress, Heroine or Murderer? "One bowl now on display at Harvard University's Semitic Museum reads, “Thou Lilith. . .Hag and Snatcher, I adjure you by the Strong One of Abraham, by the .."
^ Descenders to the chariot: the people behind the Hekhalot literature Page 277 James R. Davila - 2001 "... that they be used by anyone and everyone. The whole community could become the equals of the sages. Perhaps this is why nearly every house excavated in the Jewish settlement in Nippur had one or more incantation bowl buried in it."
^ Full text in p156 Aramaic Incantation Texts from Nippur James Alan Montgomery - 2011
^ The attribution to the sage Ben Sira is considered false, with the true author unknown.
^ Alphabet of Ben Sirah, Question #5 (23a–b)
^ Humm, Alan. Lilith in the Alphabet of Ben Sira
^
After God created Adam, who was alone, He said, 'It is not good for man to be alone.' He then created a woman for Adam, from the earth, as He had created Adam himself, and called her Lilith. Adam and Lilith immediately began to fight. She said, 'I will not lie below,' and he said, 'I will not lie beneath you, but only on top. For you are fit only to be in the bottom position, while I am to be the superior one.' Lilith responded, 'We are equal to each other inasmuch as we were both created from the earth.' But they would not listen to one another. When Lilith saw this, she pronounced the Ineffable Name and flew away into the air.
Adam stood in prayer before his Creator: 'Sovereign of the universe!' he said, 'the woman you gave me has run away.' At once, the Holy One, blessed be He, sent these three angels Senoy, Sansenoy, and Semangelof, to bring her back.
Said the Holy One to Adam, 'If she agrees to come back, what is made is good. If not, she must permit one hundred of her children to die every day.' The angels left God and pursued Lilith, whom they overtook in the midst of the sea, in the mighty waters wherein the Egyptians were destined to drown. They told her God's word, but she did not wish to return. The angels said, 'We shall drown you in the sea.’
'Leave me!' she said. 'I was created only to cause sickness to infants. If the infant is male, I have dominion over him for eight days after his birth, and if female, for twenty days.’
When the angels heard Lilith's words, they insisted she go back. But she swore to them by the name of the living and eternal God: 'Whenever I see you or your names or your forms in an amulet, I will have no power over that infant.' She also agreed to have one hundred of her children die every day. Accordingly, every day one hundred demons perish, and for the same reason, we write the angels' names on the amulets of young children. When Lilith sees their names, she remembers her oath, and the child recovers.
^ Segal, Eliezer. Looking for Lilith
^ Schwartz p.7
^ Schwartz p 8
^ a b c Schwartz p.8
^ Patai pp. 229–230
^ Patai p.230
^ Patai p231
^ Patai p.231
^ Patai p244
^ Humm, Alan. Lilith, Samael, & Blind Dragon
^ Pataip246
^
In answer to your question concerning Lilith, I shall explain to you the essence of the matter. Concerning this point there is a received tradition from the ancient Sages who made use of the Secret Knowledge of the Lesser Palaces, which is the manipulation of demons and a ladder by which one ascends to the prophetic levels. In this tradition, it is made clear that Samael and Lilith were born as one, similar to the form of Adam and Eve who were also born as one, reflecting what is above. This is the account of Lilith which was received by the Sages in the Secret Knowledge of the Palaces. The Matron Lilith is the mate of Samael. Both of them were born at the same hour in the image of Adam and Eve, intertwined in each other. Asmodeus the great king of the demons has as a mate the Lesser (younger) Lilith, daughter of the king whose name is Qafsefoni. The name of his mate is Mehetabel daughter of Matred, and their daughter is Lilith.
^ R. Isaac b. Jacob Ha-Kohen. Lilith in Jewish Mysticism: Treatise on the Left Emanation
^
And the Serpent, the Woman of Harlotry, incited and seduced Eve through the husks of Light which in itself is holiness. And the Serpent seduced Holy Eve, and enough said for him who understands. And all this ruination came about because Adam the first man coupled with Eve while she was in her menstrual impurity – this is the filth and the impure seed of the Serpent who mounted Eve before Adam mounted her. Behold, here it is before you: because of the sins of Adam the first man all the things mentioned came into being. For Evil Lilith, when she saw the greatness of his corruption, became strong in her husks, and came to Adam against his will, and became hot from him and bore him many demons and spirits and Lilin. (Patai81:455f)
^ a b Patai p232 "Or according to the Zohar, two female spirits, Lilith and Naamah — found him, desired his beauty which was like that of the sun disk, and lay with him. The issue of these unions were demons and spirits"
^ Major Trends in Jewish Mysticism, p. 174
^ "Printed sheet, late 17th century or early 18th century, 185x130 mm. This sheet was inserted in one of the library's copies of Jean de Pauly's translation of the Zohar. The sheet contains two texts within borders, which are amulets, one for a male ('lazakhar'), the other one for a female ('lanekevah'). The invocations mention Adam, Eve and Lilith, 'Chavah Rishonah' (the first Eve, who is identical with Lilith), also devils or angels: Sanoy, Sansinoy, Smangeluf, Shmari'el (the guardian) and Hasdi'el (the merciful). A few lines in Yiddish are followed by the dialogue between the prophet Elijah and Lilith when he met her with her host of demons to kill the mother and take her new-born child ('to drink her blood, suck her bones and eat her flesh'). She tells Elijah that she will lose her power if someone uses her secret names, which she reveals at the end: 'lilith, abitu, abizu, hakash, avers hikpodu, ayalu, matrota...'."
^ "Lilith Amulet-J.R. Ritman Library". http://www.ritmanlibrary.nl/c/p/exh/kabb/kab_pheb_25.html.
^ Humm, Alan. Kabbalah: Lilith's origins
^ Hurwitz p. 43
^ a b Hurwitz p.43
^ Hurwitz p.78
^ "an eine Stelle" Hurwitz S. Die erste Eva: Eine historische und psychologische Studie 2004 Page 160 " Lilith in der arabischen Literatur: Die Karina Auch in der arabischen Literatur hat der Lilith-Mythos seinen Niederschlag gefunden."
^ Jan Knappert Islamic legends: histories of the heroes, saints, and prophets of Islam, Volume 1. E. J. Brill, Leiden, 1985. " "And I am Salmas al-Hamma, the Karina of all women". In spite of his great power, King Solomon felt uneasy when he heard this name. A karina is a female demon much feared by women in the Middle East." p.149
^
Faust:
Who's that there?
Mephistopheles:
Take a good look.
Lilith.
Faust:
Lilith? Who is that?
Mephistopheles:
Adam's wife, his first. Beware of her.
Her beauty's one boast is her dangerous hair.
When Lilith winds it tight around young men
She doesn't soon let go of them again.
(1992 Greenberg translation, lines 4206–4211)
After Mephistopheles offers this warning to Faust, he then, quite ironically, encourages Faust to dance with "the Pretty Witch". Lilith and Faust engage in a short dialogue, where Lilith recounts the days spent in Eden.
Faust: [dancing with the young witch]
A lovely dream I dreamt one day
I saw a green-leaved apple tree,
Two apples swayed upon a stem,
So tempting! I climbed up for them.
The Pretty Witch:
Ever since the days of Eden
Apples have been man's desire.
How overjoyed I am to think, sir,
Apples grow, too, in my garden.
(1992 Greenberg translation, lines 4216 – 4223)
"The Feminism and Women's Studies site: Changing Literary Representations of Lilith and the Evolution of a Mythical Heroine". http://feminism.eserver.org/theory/papers/lilith/.
Of Adam's first wife, Lilith, it is told
(The witch he loved before the gift of Eve,)
That, ere the snake's, her sweet tongue could deceive,
And her enchanted hair was the first gold.
And still she sits, young while the earth is old,
And, subtly of herself contemplative,
Draws men to watch the bright web she can weave,
Till heart and body and life are in its hold.
The rose and poppy are her flower; for where
Is he not found, O Lilith, whom shed scent
And soft-shed kisses and soft sleep shall snare?
Lo! As that youth's eyes burned at thine, so went
Thy spell through him, and left his straight neck bent
And round his heart one strangling golden hair.
(Collected Works, 216)
^ Howard Schwartz (1988). Lilith's Cave: Jewish tales of the supernatural. San Francisco: Harper & Row.
^
As the worst of the venom left my lips,
I thought, 'If, despite this lie, he strips
The mask from my soul with a kiss — I crawl
His slave, — soul, body, and all!
—Browning 1098
^ Seidel, Kathryn Lee. The Lilith Figure in Toni Morrison's Sula and Alice Walker's The Color Purple
^ Grimassi, Raven.Stregheria: La Vecchia Religione
^ Leland, Charles.Aradia, Gospel of the Witches-aAppendix
^ "Lilith-The First Eve". Imbolc. 2002. http://www.whitedragon.org.uk/articles/lillith.htm.
^ Grenn, Deborah J.History of Lilith Institute
^ "Lilith". thaliatook.com. http://www.thaliatook.com/AMGG/lilith.html. Retrieved 9 December 2010. [unreliable source?]
^ Hurwitz, Siegmund. "Excerpts from Lilith-The first Eve". http://www.daimon.ch/385630522X_2E.htm.
^ "Lilith". goddess.com.au. http://www.goddess.com.au/goddesses/Lilith.htm.
^ Koltuv
^ R. Buckland
^ Aun Weor, Samael. Pistis Sophia Unveiled. Google Books. p. 339. http://books.google.com/books?id=Rypqlr2O_sAC&dq=pistis+sophia+unveiled&printsec=frontcover&source=bn&hl=en&ei=FubmSqPyFM7p8Qa4x5SSBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CBIQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=homosexuals&f=false.
^ a b Fortune, Dion. Psychic Self-Defence. Google books. pp. 126–128. http://books.google.com/books?id=EucEChcyoq4C&pg=PA126&lpg=PA126&dq=dion+fortune+virgin+mary+lilith&source=bl&ots=AI1dDL3B3M&sig=rmUUZMuvhQbwDtV8_v4JrF3L-Ss&hl=en&ei=7ebmSonrGJOX8AaDyeSYBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAwQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=&f=false.
[edit] ReferencesTalmudic References: b. Erubin 18b; b. Erubin 100b; b. Nidda 24b; b. Shab. 151b; b. Baba Bathra 73a–b
Kabbalist References: Zohar 3:76b–77a; Zohar Sitrei Torah 1:147b–148b; Zohar 2:267b; Bacharach,'Emeq haMelekh, 19c; Zohar 3:19a; Bacharach,'Emeq haMelekh, 102d–103a; Zohar 1:54b–55a
Dead Sea Scroll References: 4QSongs of the Sage/4QShir; 4Q510 frag.11.4–6a//frag.10.1f; 11QPsAp
Lilith Bibliography, Jewish and Christian Literature, Alan Humm ed., 3 March 2012.
Raymond Buckland, The Witch Book, Visible Ink Press, November 1, 2001.
Charles Fossey, La Magie Assyrienne, Paris: 1902.
Siegmund Hurwitz, Lilith, die erste Eva: eine Studie uber dunkle Aspekte des Wieblichen. Zurich: Daimon Verlag, 1980, 1993. English tr. Lilith, the First Eve: Historical and Psychological Aspects of the Dark Feminine, translated by Gela Jacobson. Einsiedeln, Switzerland: Daimon Verlag, 1992 ISBN 3-85630-545-9.
Siegmund Hurwitz, Lilith Switzerland: Daminon Press, 1992. Jerusalem Bible. New York: Doubleday, 1966.
Samuel Noah Kramer, Gilgamesh and the Huluppu-Tree: A reconstructed Sumerian Text. (Kramer's Translation of the Gilgamesh Prologue), Assyriological Studies of the Oriental Institute of the University of Chicago 10, Chicago: 1938.
Raphael Patai, Adam ve-Adama, tr. as Man and Earth; Jerusalem: The Hebrew Press Association, 1941–1942.
Raphael Patai, The Hebrew Goddess, 3rd enlarged edition New York: Discus Books, 1978.
Archibald Sayce, Hibbert Lectures on Babylonian Religion 1887.
Schwartz, Howard, Lilith's Cave: Jewish tales of the supernatural, San Francisco: Harper & Row, 1988.
R. Campbell Thompson, Semitic Magic, it's Origin and Development, London: 1908.
New American Bible [1]
You behind the scenes people and other-than-people are going to make me figure this out all by myself, aren't you? Is this part of my punishment, before you exterminate me and/or the human-race? I know there are people (and other than people) in the Vatican and the City of London who could make all of this clear to me in less than five-minutes. The self-proclaimed Ancient Egyptian Deity who I spoke with, could've told me everything -- but they wouldn't answer most of my questions. I sometimes think I was speaking with Archangel Gabriel -- but I mostly thought I was speaking with Archangel Lucifer. Just guesses, mind you, but whoever I was talking to was not just another human being -- I assure you. At this point, I think I can visualize what's been going on, and I don't like it one little bit. The silence is especially irritating. If I'm the Devil Incarnate -- let's talk about it. If I'm Lilith Incarnate -- let's talk about it. If I'm just another Completely Ignorant Fool -- let's talk about it. But really, I think I have this mostly figured-out -- but I have no idea what my fate is. I suspect that it's not good -- which is probably why no one is talking to me. I feel as though I am on Second-Death Row. Some of you even know what that means, don't you? Don't all of you answer at once. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9mFn9EhgU4 Once again, this thread is intended to make us face ourselves and think. I'm not an expert on any of this. This is mostly a study-guide -- and I expect great things from those who make a serious study of this thread. The next steps will be the significant ones -- and not my feeble efforts within the Mists. This is only the beginning. Please study this thread as a whole -- and then talk to me. I'll bet there's at least one individual who is being paid to follow my activities -- but obviously they would not be at liberty to disclose to me what they know about me and my tripe! I really wanted to get into an extensive debate concerning everything I've posted -- but this has obviously not happened -- so I really have to debate myself -- which is supposedly one more sign of insanity! I guess I'm at least trying to prepare myself for what might really exist throughout the solar system -- by imagining that I'm right in the middle of all the secret stuff. More delusional insanity -- right? If I really were on the inside, I wouldn't be able to post and speculate like I do -- would I? Of course not! I'm presently just another useless and harmless idiot, who is probably being watched by a lone NSA intern -- who is becoming less and less sane as they read more and more of my 'bright' ideas!
We've Come a Long Way Baby!Here is the Wikipedia link for 'Enlil'. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enlil
Enlil (nlin), (EN = Lord + LÍL = Storm, "Lord (of the) Storm")[1] was the name of a chief deity listed and written about in Sumerian religion, and later in Akkadian, Hittite, Canaanite and other Mesopotamian clay and stone tablets. The name is perhaps pronounced and sometimes rendered in translations as Ellil in later Akkadian, Hittite, and Canaanite literature. In later Akkadian, Enlil is the son of Anshar and Kishar.
Enlil was considered to be the god of breath, wind, loft and breadth (height and distance).[2]
One story names his origins as the exhausted breath of An (god of the heavens) and Ki (goddess of the Earth) after sexual union.
The myth of Enlil and Ninlil discusses when Enlil was a young god, he was banished from Dilmun, home of the gods, to Kur, the underworld for raping a goddess named Ninlil. Ninlil followed him to the underworld where she bore his first child, Nergal, and/or the moon god Sin (Sumerian Nanna/Suen). After fathering three more underworld-deities (substitutes for Sin), Enlil was allowed to return to Dilmun.[3][4]
Enlil was known as the inventor of the mattock (a key agricultural pick, hoe, ax or digging tool of the Sumerians) and caused plants to grow.[5]
Enlil, along with Anu/An, Enki and Ninhursag were gods of the Sumerians.[6]
By his wife Ninlil or Sud, Enlil was father of the moon god Nanna/Suen (in Akkadian, Sin) and of Ninurta (also called Ningirsu). Enlil is the father of Nisaba the goddess of grain, of Pabilsag who is sometimes equated with Ninurta, and sometimes of Enbilulu. By Ereshkigal Enlil was father of Namtar.
Enlil is associated with the ancient city of Nippur, sometimes referred to as the cult city of Enlil.[7] His temple was named Ekur, "House of the Mountain."[8] Enlil was assimilated to the north "Pole of the Ecliptic".[9] His sacred number name was 50.[10]
As Enlil was the only god who could reach the heaven god An he held sway over the other gods who were assigned tasks by his agent and would travel to Nippur to draw in his power. He is thus seen as the model for kingship.[11]
At a very early period prior to 3000 BC, Nippur had become the centre of a political district of considerable extent. Inscriptions found at Nippur, where extensive excavations were carried on during 1888–1900 by John P Peters and John Henry Haynes, under the auspices of the University of Pennsylvania, show that Enlil was the head of an extensive pantheon. Among the titles accorded to him are "king of lands", "king of heaven and earth", and "father of the gods".
His chief temple at Nippur was known as Ekur, signifying 'House of the mountain', and such was the sanctity acquired by this edifice that Babylonian and Assyrian rulers, down to the latest days, vied with one another in embellishing and restoring Enlil's seat of worship, and the name Ekur became the designation of a temple in general.
Grouped around the main sanctuary, there arose temples and chapels to the gods and goddesses who formed his court, so that Ekur became the name for an entire sacred precinct in the city of Nippur. The name "mountain house" suggests a lofty structure and was perhaps the designation originally of the staged tower at Nippur, built in imitation of a mountain, with the sacred shrine of the god on the top.
Enlil was also the God of weather. According to the Sumerians, Enlil helped create the humans, but then got tired of their noise and tried to kill them by sending a flood. A mortal known as Utnapishtim survived the flood through the help of another god, Ea, and he was made immortal by Enlil after Enlil's initial fury.
References^ Halloran, John A.; "Sumerian Lexicon: Version 3.0"; December 10th, 2006 at http://sumerian.org/sumerlex.htm
^ Neo-Sumerian inscriptions clay, Babylonia, 1900–1700 BC, image with translations on display at http://earth-history.com/Sumer/Clay-tablets.htm
^ [1].
^ ^ Sumerian Mythology: A Review Article Thorkild Jacobsen Journal of Near Eastern Studies, Vol. 5, No. 2. (April 1946), pp. 128-152.
^ Hooke. S.H., Middle Eastern Mythology, Dover Publications, 2004
^ Kramer, Samuel Noah, "The Sumerian Deluge Myth: Reviewed and Revised" Anatolian Studies, Vol. 33, Special Number in Honour of the Seventy-Fifth Birthday of Dr. Richard Barnett. (1983), pp. 115-121.
^ William W. Hallo, "Review: Enki and the Theology of Eridu", Journal of the American Oriental Society, 116:2 (Apr.–Jun. 1996), pp. 231–234
^ Reallexikon der Assyriologie II, p. 385.
^ Jeremias, Alfred 1913. Handbuch der altorientalischen Geisteskultur. Leipzig. p. 74.
^ Reallexikon der Assyriologie III. Götterzahlen. p. 500.
^ Kingship in the Mediterranean world, p. 5162a Grottanelli and Mander, Encyclopaedia of Religion, second edition 2005. Thomson Gale.
There isn't much of a Wikipedia section on 'Enlil' is there? What if Enlil was (and is) a Dragon (or at least some sort of Reptilian -- both spiritually and physically)? Would this harmonize with the Revelation depiction of a Dragon in Heaven? How about Carl Sagan's 'The Dragons of Eden'? What about Michael being wroth with the Dragon? What if Michael = Ninlil = Lilith? What if Gabriel replaced Michael after Michael and Enlil had a significant difference of opinion? Come-on! Stop laughing at me! This is serious! What if the universe really is stranger than we can think? What would JBS Haldane say?
Abyzou
Daemon (classical mythology)
Lilith (Lurianic Kabbalah)
Lilith Fair
Norea
Serpent seed
Spirit spouse
Freedman, David Noel, ed., Anchor Bible Dictionary, (New York: Doubleday) 1997, 1992.
^ Kristen E. Kvam, Linda S. Schearing, Valarie H. Ziegler Eve and Adam: Jewish, Christian, and Muslim readings on Genesis and gender Bloomington: Indiana University Press, 1999. p174
^ Tree of souls: the mythology of Judaism, By Howard Schwartz, page 218
^ Eve and Adam: Jewish, Christian, and Muslim readings on Genesis and gender By Kristen E. Kvam, Linda S. Schearing, Valarie H. Ziegler, pp 220–221, Indiana University Press, 1999
^ Erich Ebeling, Bruno Meissner, Dietz Otto Edzard Reallexikon der Assyriologie Volume 9 p47,50
^ Michael C. Astour Hellenosemitica: an ethnic and cultural study in west Semitic impact on Mycenaean. Greece 1965 Brill p138
^ Sayce (1887)[page needed]
^ Fossey (1902)[page needed]
^ Kramer, S. N. Gilgamesh and the Huluppu-Tree: A Reconstructed Sumerian Text. Assyriological Studies 10. Chicago. 1938
^ George, A. The epic of Gilgamesh: the Babylonian epic poem and other texts in Akkadian 2003 p100 Tablet XII. Appendix The last Tablet in the 'Series of Gilgamesh'
^ Kramer translates the zu as "owl", but most often it is translated as "eagle", "vulture", or "bird of prey".
^ "Chicago Assyrian Dictionary". Chicago Assyrian Dictionary. Chicago: University of Chicago. 1956.
^ Hurwitz (1980) p. 49
^ Article in K. van der Toorn, Bob Becking, Pieter Willem van der Horst - 1999 p520-521, article cites Hutter's own 1988 work Behexung, Entsuhnung und Heilung Eisenbrauns 1988. p224-228
^ Müller-Kessler, C. (2002) "A Charm against Demons of Time", in C. Wunsch (ed.), Mining the Archives. Festschrift Christopher Walker on the Occasion of his 60th Birthday (Dresden), p. 185
^ Roberta Sterman Sabbath Sacred tropes: Tanakh, New Testament, and Qur'an as literature and culture 2009
^ Sex and gender in the ancient Near East: proceedings of the 47th Rencontre Assyriologique Internationale, Helsinki, July 2–6, 2001, Part 2 p481
^ Opitz, D. Ausgrabungen und Forschungsreisen Ur. AfO 8: 328
^ Ribichini, S. Lilith nell-albero Huluppu Pp. 25 in Atti del 1° Convegno Italiano sul Vicino Oriente Antico, Rome, 1976
^ Frankfort, H. The Burney Relief AfO 12: 128, 1937
^ Kraeling, E. G. A Unique Babylonian Relief BASOR 67: 168. 1937
^ RLA 7:25
^ Gaster, T. H. 1942. A Canaanite Magical Text. Or 11:
^ Torczyner, H. 1947. A Hebrew Incantation against Night-Demons from Biblical Times. JNES 6: 18?9.
^ Lesses, Rebecca Exe(o)rcising Power: Women as Sorceresses, Exorcists, and Demonesses in Babylonian Jewish Society of Late Antiquity 2001 JAAR Journal of The American Academy of Religion Abstact pp. 343–375
^ Georges Contenau La Magie chez les Assyriens et les Babyloniens, Paris, 1947.
^ Georges Contenau Everyday Life in Babylon and Assyria translated by KR Maxwell-Hyslop and AR Maxwell-Hyslop (New York: St. Martin's Press, 1954)
^ Fauth, Wolfgang (1982) Lilitu und die Eulen von Pylos. In Tischler, Johann. (ed.). Serta Indogermanica: Festschrift für Günter Neumann zum 60. Geburtstag. pp. 60–61
^ S. Lackenbacher, RA 65 (1971)
^ Graham Cunningham Deliver me from evil: Mesopotamian incantations, 2500–1500 BC 1997 p104
^ Alan Humm's Lilith Bibliography from the Ioudaios academic list expanded from the bibliography of Thomas R. W. Longstaff
^ "Beiträge zur vergleichende Sagen- und Märchenkunde. X. Lilith und die drei Angel", Monatschrift für Geschichte und Wissenschaft des Judenstum 29 (1880) – to be distinguished from Gaster, Theodor Herzl. "A Canaanite Magical Text". Orientalia, 11. Rome: Pontificium Institutum Biblicum, 1942. pp. 41–79.
^ Semitic Magic – Its Origins and Development
^ Hebrew Religion: Its Origin and Development (1930) Page 70
^ Hurwitz, p.50
^ Hurwitz (1980)p.54,55
^ a b Deutscher, Guy (2007). Syntactic Change in Akkadian: The Evolution of Sentential Complementation. Oxford University Press US. pp. 20–21. ISBN 9780199532223. http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=XFwUxmCdG94C.
^ Bottero (2001:45)
^ Hurwitz (1980) p.51-52
^ Hurwitz pp. 53–54
^ Leick 1998: 30–31
^ Hurwitx pp. 54–55
^ Hurwitz p. 54
^ a b Hurwitz (1980) p.50
^ Patai (1942)[page needed]
^ Epilepsy in Babylonia By Marten Stol, p 46, Brill, 1993}}
^ p52
^ a b Hurwitz (1980) p.52
^ a b Raphael Patai[page needed]
^ T.H. Jacobsen, "Mesopotamia", in H. Frankfort et al., Before Philosophy: The Intellectual Adventure of Ancient Man.
^ R.C. Thompson 1908 p.66
^ The Devil: perceptions of evil from antiquity to primitive Christianity by Jeffrey Burton Russell, p. 92, Cornell University Press
^ Hurwitz (1980) p.75
^ Black, Jeremy and Anthony Green (2003). Gods, Demons, and Symbols of Ancient Mesopotamia. Austin, TX: University of Texas Press. p. 118.
^ Erich Ebeling and Bruno Meissner, Reallexicon der Assyriologie, Walter de Gruyter 1990[page needed]
^ Hurwitz (1980) p.51
^ Raphael Patai p.222
^ Raphael Patai, p. 221 & 222, The Hebrew Goddess: Third Enlarged Edition, ISBN 978-0-8143-2271-0
^ Hurwitz (1980) pp. 34–35
^ Dūr-Katlimmu 2008 and beyond edited by Hartmut Kühne, p 243, Otto Harrassowitz Verlag, 2010
^ Britannica, s.v. "Lamashtu"
^ Sydney Omarr's Day-by-Day Astrological Guide for Gemini 2011: May 21–June 20 By Trish MacGregor, Rob MacGregor, p 93, Penguin, 2010; Source covers information besides Gemini, and works for this citation
^ Spirit and reason: the embodied character of Ezekiel's symbolic thinking by Dale Launderville p 275, Baylor University Press, 2007
^ The orientalizing revolution: Near Eastern influence on Greek culture in the early archaic age by Walter Burkert, Margaret E. Pinder p 83, Harvard University Press, 1995
^ Every breath you take: stalking narratives and the law by Ôrît Kāmîr, p 30, University of Michigan Press, 2001
^ Hurwitz (1980) p.39 But this ref gives no source.
^ Hurwitz, Siegmund (1980). Lilith-The First Eve: Historical and Psychological Aspects of the Dark Feminine. p. 40. http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=6T9Y1EhiwDUC&oi=fnd&pg=PA40#v=onepage&q&f=false.
^ Hurwitz (1980) p.41
^ Tammuz and Ishtar: a monograph upon Babylonian religion p74,75
^ S.H. Langdon p.74 Stephen Herbert Langdon, The Mythology of All Races, Volume V: Semitic, ed. John Arnott MacCulloch New York: Cooper Square Publishers, 1964
^ Hurwitz (1980) p.58
^ Jan De Waard Translators Handbook on Isaiah; Delitzsch Isaiah
^ See The animals mentioned in the Bible Henry Chichester Hart 1888, and more modern sources; also entries Brown Driver Briggs Hebrew Lexicon for tsiyyim... 'iyyim... sayir... liylith... qippowz... dayah
^ The consonants p/k/t may also be pronounced: ph/kh/th.
^ (מנוח manowach, used for birds as Noah's dove, Gen.8:9 and also humans as Israel, Deut.28:65; Naomi, Ruth 3:1).
^ Blair J. "De-demonising the Old Testament" p.27
^ Christopher R. A. Morray-Jones A transparent illusion: the dangerous vision of water in Hekhalot Vol.59 p258 2002 "Early evidence of the belief in a plurality of liliths is provided by the Isaiah scroll from Qumran, which gives the name as liliyyot, and by the targum to Isaiah, which, in both cases, reads" (Targum reads: "when Lilith the Queen of [Sheba] and of Margod fell upon them.")
^ Jahrbuch für Protestantische Theologie 1, 1875. p128
^ Levy, [Moritz] A.[braham] (1817–1872)]. "Zeitschrift der deutschen morgenländischen Gesellschaft". Zeitschrift der deutschen morgenländischen Gesellschaft. ZDMG 9. 1885. pp. 470, 484. http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=338&letter=L.
^ Judit M. Blair De-Demonising the Old Testament – An Investigation of Azazel, Lilit (Lilith), Deber (Dever), Qeteb (Qetev) and Reshep (Resheph) in the Hebrew Bible. Forschungen zum Alten Testament 2 Reihe, Mohr Siebeck 2009 ISBN 3-16-150131-4
^ 34:14 καὶ συναντήσουσιν δαιμόνια ὀνοκενταύροις καὶ βοήσουσιν ἕτερος πρὸς τὸν ἕτερον ἐκεῖ ἀναπαύσονται ὀνοκένταυροι εὗρον γὰρ αὑτοῖς ἀνάπαυσιν
^ "The Old Testament (Vulgate)/Isaias propheta". Wikisource (Latin). http://la.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Old_Testament_(Vulgate)/Isaias_propheta. Retrieved 2007-09-24.
^ "Parallel Latin Vulgate Bible and Douay-Rheims Bible and King James Bible; The Complete Sayings of Jesus Christ". LatinVulgate.com. http://www.latinvulgate.com/verse.aspx?t=0&b=27&c=34. Retrieved 2007-09-24.
^ Michael T. Davis, Brent A. Strawn Qumran studies: new approaches, new questions 2007 p47 "... two manuscripts that date to the Herodian period, with 4Q510 slightly earlier"
^ Bruce Chilton, Darrell Bock, Daniel M. Gurtner A Comparative Handbook to the Gospel of Mark p84
^ Revue de Qumrân 1991 p133
^ Baumgarten, J. M. 'On the Nature of the Seductress in 4Q184', Revue de Qumran 15 (1991–2), 133–143; 'The seductress of Qumran', Bible Review 17 no 5 (2001), 21–23; 42;
^ Collins, Jewish wisdom in the Hellenistic age
^ Tractate Niddah in the Mishnah is the only tractate from the Order of Tohorot which has Talmud on it. The Jerusalem Talmud is incomplete here, but the Babylonian Talmud on Tractate Niddah (2a–76b) is complete.
^ Janet Howe Gaines Biblical Archaeology Review Lilith: Seductress, Heroine or Murderer? "One bowl now on display at Harvard University's Semitic Museum reads, “Thou Lilith. . .Hag and Snatcher, I adjure you by the Strong One of Abraham, by the .."
^ Descenders to the chariot: the people behind the Hekhalot literature Page 277 James R. Davila - 2001 "... that they be used by anyone and everyone. The whole community could become the equals of the sages. Perhaps this is why nearly every house excavated in the Jewish settlement in Nippur had one or more incantation bowl buried in it."
^ Full text in p156 Aramaic Incantation Texts from Nippur James Alan Montgomery - 2011
^ The attribution to the sage Ben Sira is considered false, with the true author unknown.
^ Alphabet of Ben Sirah, Question #5 (23a–b)
^ Humm, Alan. Lilith in the Alphabet of Ben Sira
^
After God created Adam, who was alone, He said, 'It is not good for man to be alone.' He then created a woman for Adam, from the earth, as He had created Adam himself, and called her Lilith. Adam and Lilith immediately began to fight. She said, 'I will not lie below,' and he said, 'I will not lie beneath you, but only on top. For you are fit only to be in the bottom position, while I am to be the superior one.' Lilith responded, 'We are equal to each other inasmuch as we were both created from the earth.' But they would not listen to one another. When Lilith saw this, she pronounced the Ineffable Name and flew away into the air.
Adam stood in prayer before his Creator: 'Sovereign of the universe!' he said, 'the woman you gave me has run away.' At once, the Holy One, blessed be He, sent these three angels Senoy, Sansenoy, and Semangelof, to bring her back.
Said the Holy One to Adam, 'If she agrees to come back, what is made is good. If not, she must permit one hundred of her children to die every day.' The angels left God and pursued Lilith, whom they overtook in the midst of the sea, in the mighty waters wherein the Egyptians were destined to drown. They told her God's word, but she did not wish to return. The angels said, 'We shall drown you in the sea.’
'Leave me!' she said. 'I was created only to cause sickness to infants. If the infant is male, I have dominion over him for eight days after his birth, and if female, for twenty days.’
When the angels heard Lilith's words, they insisted she go back. But she swore to them by the name of the living and eternal God: 'Whenever I see you or your names or your forms in an amulet, I will have no power over that infant.' She also agreed to have one hundred of her children die every day. Accordingly, every day one hundred demons perish, and for the same reason, we write the angels' names on the amulets of young children. When Lilith sees their names, she remembers her oath, and the child recovers.
^ Segal, Eliezer. Looking for Lilith
^ Schwartz p.7
^ Schwartz p 8
^ a b c Schwartz p.8
^ Patai pp. 229–230
^ Patai p.230
^ Patai p231
^ Patai p.231
^ Patai p244
^ Humm, Alan. Lilith, Samael, & Blind Dragon
^ Pataip246
^
In answer to your question concerning Lilith, I shall explain to you the essence of the matter. Concerning this point there is a received tradition from the ancient Sages who made use of the Secret Knowledge of the Lesser Palaces, which is the manipulation of demons and a ladder by which one ascends to the prophetic levels. In this tradition, it is made clear that Samael and Lilith were born as one, similar to the form of Adam and Eve who were also born as one, reflecting what is above. This is the account of Lilith which was received by the Sages in the Secret Knowledge of the Palaces. The Matron Lilith is the mate of Samael. Both of them were born at the same hour in the image of Adam and Eve, intertwined in each other. Asmodeus the great king of the demons has as a mate the Lesser (younger) Lilith, daughter of the king whose name is Qafsefoni. The name of his mate is Mehetabel daughter of Matred, and their daughter is Lilith.
^ R. Isaac b. Jacob Ha-Kohen. Lilith in Jewish Mysticism: Treatise on the Left Emanation
^
And the Serpent, the Woman of Harlotry, incited and seduced Eve through the husks of Light which in itself is holiness. And the Serpent seduced Holy Eve, and enough said for him who understands. And all this ruination came about because Adam the first man coupled with Eve while she was in her menstrual impurity – this is the filth and the impure seed of the Serpent who mounted Eve before Adam mounted her. Behold, here it is before you: because of the sins of Adam the first man all the things mentioned came into being. For Evil Lilith, when she saw the greatness of his corruption, became strong in her husks, and came to Adam against his will, and became hot from him and bore him many demons and spirits and Lilin. (Patai81:455f)
^ a b Patai p232 "Or according to the Zohar, two female spirits, Lilith and Naamah — found him, desired his beauty which was like that of the sun disk, and lay with him. The issue of these unions were demons and spirits"
^ Major Trends in Jewish Mysticism, p. 174
^ "Printed sheet, late 17th century or early 18th century, 185x130 mm. This sheet was inserted in one of the library's copies of Jean de Pauly's translation of the Zohar. The sheet contains two texts within borders, which are amulets, one for a male ('lazakhar'), the other one for a female ('lanekevah'). The invocations mention Adam, Eve and Lilith, 'Chavah Rishonah' (the first Eve, who is identical with Lilith), also devils or angels: Sanoy, Sansinoy, Smangeluf, Shmari'el (the guardian) and Hasdi'el (the merciful). A few lines in Yiddish are followed by the dialogue between the prophet Elijah and Lilith when he met her with her host of demons to kill the mother and take her new-born child ('to drink her blood, suck her bones and eat her flesh'). She tells Elijah that she will lose her power if someone uses her secret names, which she reveals at the end: 'lilith, abitu, abizu, hakash, avers hikpodu, ayalu, matrota...'."
^ "Lilith Amulet-J.R. Ritman Library". http://www.ritmanlibrary.nl/c/p/exh/kabb/kab_pheb_25.html.
^ Humm, Alan. Kabbalah: Lilith's origins
^ Hurwitz p. 43
^ a b Hurwitz p.43
^ Hurwitz p.78
^ "an eine Stelle" Hurwitz S. Die erste Eva: Eine historische und psychologische Studie 2004 Page 160 " Lilith in der arabischen Literatur: Die Karina Auch in der arabischen Literatur hat der Lilith-Mythos seinen Niederschlag gefunden."
^ Jan Knappert Islamic legends: histories of the heroes, saints, and prophets of Islam, Volume 1. E. J. Brill, Leiden, 1985. " "And I am Salmas al-Hamma, the Karina of all women". In spite of his great power, King Solomon felt uneasy when he heard this name. A karina is a female demon much feared by women in the Middle East." p.149
^
Faust:
Who's that there?
Mephistopheles:
Take a good look.
Lilith.
Faust:
Lilith? Who is that?
Mephistopheles:
Adam's wife, his first. Beware of her.
Her beauty's one boast is her dangerous hair.
When Lilith winds it tight around young men
She doesn't soon let go of them again.
(1992 Greenberg translation, lines 4206–4211)
After Mephistopheles offers this warning to Faust, he then, quite ironically, encourages Faust to dance with "the Pretty Witch". Lilith and Faust engage in a short dialogue, where Lilith recounts the days spent in Eden.
Faust: [dancing with the young witch]
A lovely dream I dreamt one day
I saw a green-leaved apple tree,
Two apples swayed upon a stem,
So tempting! I climbed up for them.
The Pretty Witch:
Ever since the days of Eden
Apples have been man's desire.
How overjoyed I am to think, sir,
Apples grow, too, in my garden.
(1992 Greenberg translation, lines 4216 – 4223)
"The Feminism and Women's Studies site: Changing Literary Representations of Lilith and the Evolution of a Mythical Heroine". http://feminism.eserver.org/theory/papers/lilith/.
Of Adam's first wife, Lilith, it is told
(The witch he loved before the gift of Eve,)
That, ere the snake's, her sweet tongue could deceive,
And her enchanted hair was the first gold.
And still she sits, young while the earth is old,
And, subtly of herself contemplative,
Draws men to watch the bright web she can weave,
Till heart and body and life are in its hold.
The rose and poppy are her flower; for where
Is he not found, O Lilith, whom shed scent
And soft-shed kisses and soft sleep shall snare?
Lo! As that youth's eyes burned at thine, so went
Thy spell through him, and left his straight neck bent
And round his heart one strangling golden hair.
(Collected Works, 216)
^ Howard Schwartz (1988). Lilith's Cave: Jewish tales of the supernatural. San Francisco: Harper & Row.
^
As the worst of the venom left my lips,
I thought, 'If, despite this lie, he strips
The mask from my soul with a kiss — I crawl
His slave, — soul, body, and all!
—Browning 1098
^ Seidel, Kathryn Lee. The Lilith Figure in Toni Morrison's Sula and Alice Walker's The Color Purple
^ Grimassi, Raven.Stregheria: La Vecchia Religione
^ Leland, Charles.Aradia, Gospel of the Witches-aAppendix
^ "Lilith-The First Eve". Imbolc. 2002. http://www.whitedragon.org.uk/articles/lillith.htm.
^ Grenn, Deborah J.History of Lilith Institute
^ "Lilith". thaliatook.com. http://www.thaliatook.com/AMGG/lilith.html. Retrieved 9 December 2010. [unreliable source?]
^ Hurwitz, Siegmund. "Excerpts from Lilith-The first Eve". http://www.daimon.ch/385630522X_2E.htm.
^ "Lilith". goddess.com.au. http://www.goddess.com.au/goddesses/Lilith.htm.
^ Koltuv
^ R. Buckland
^ Aun Weor, Samael. Pistis Sophia Unveiled. Google Books. p. 339. http://books.google.com/books?id=Rypqlr2O_sAC&dq=pistis+sophia+unveiled&printsec=frontcover&source=bn&hl=en&ei=FubmSqPyFM7p8Qa4x5SSBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CBIQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=homosexuals&f=false.
^ a b Fortune, Dion. Psychic Self-Defence. Google books. pp. 126–128. http://books.google.com/books?id=EucEChcyoq4C&pg=PA126&lpg=PA126&dq=dion+fortune+virgin+mary+lilith&source=bl&ots=AI1dDL3B3M&sig=rmUUZMuvhQbwDtV8_v4JrF3L-Ss&hl=en&ei=7ebmSonrGJOX8AaDyeSYBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAwQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=&f=false.
[edit] ReferencesTalmudic References: b. Erubin 18b; b. Erubin 100b; b. Nidda 24b; b. Shab. 151b; b. Baba Bathra 73a–b
Kabbalist References: Zohar 3:76b–77a; Zohar Sitrei Torah 1:147b–148b; Zohar 2:267b; Bacharach,'Emeq haMelekh, 19c; Zohar 3:19a; Bacharach,'Emeq haMelekh, 102d–103a; Zohar 1:54b–55a
Dead Sea Scroll References: 4QSongs of the Sage/4QShir; 4Q510 frag.11.4–6a//frag.10.1f; 11QPsAp
Lilith Bibliography, Jewish and Christian Literature, Alan Humm ed., 3 March 2012.
Raymond Buckland, The Witch Book, Visible Ink Press, November 1, 2001.
Charles Fossey, La Magie Assyrienne, Paris: 1902.
Siegmund Hurwitz, Lilith, die erste Eva: eine Studie uber dunkle Aspekte des Wieblichen. Zurich: Daimon Verlag, 1980, 1993. English tr. Lilith, the First Eve: Historical and Psychological Aspects of the Dark Feminine, translated by Gela Jacobson. Einsiedeln, Switzerland: Daimon Verlag, 1992 ISBN 3-85630-545-9.
Siegmund Hurwitz, Lilith Switzerland: Daminon Press, 1992. Jerusalem Bible. New York: Doubleday, 1966.
Samuel Noah Kramer, Gilgamesh and the Huluppu-Tree: A reconstructed Sumerian Text. (Kramer's Translation of the Gilgamesh Prologue), Assyriological Studies of the Oriental Institute of the University of Chicago 10, Chicago: 1938.
Raphael Patai, Adam ve-Adama, tr. as Man and Earth; Jerusalem: The Hebrew Press Association, 1941–1942.
Raphael Patai, The Hebrew Goddess, 3rd enlarged edition New York: Discus Books, 1978.
Archibald Sayce, Hibbert Lectures on Babylonian Religion 1887.
Schwartz, Howard, Lilith's Cave: Jewish tales of the supernatural, San Francisco: Harper & Row, 1988.
R. Campbell Thompson, Semitic Magic, it's Origin and Development, London: 1908.
New American Bible [1]
You behind the scenes people and other-than-people are going to make me figure this out all by myself, aren't you? Is this part of my punishment, before you exterminate me and/or the human-race? I know there are people (and other than people) in the Vatican and the City of London who could make all of this clear to me in less than five-minutes. The self-proclaimed Ancient Egyptian Deity who I spoke with, could've told me everything -- but they wouldn't answer most of my questions. I sometimes think I was speaking with Archangel Gabriel -- but I mostly thought I was speaking with Archangel Lucifer. Just guesses, mind you, but whoever I was talking to was not just another human being -- I assure you. At this point, I think I can visualize what's been going on, and I don't like it one little bit. The silence is especially irritating. If I'm the Devil Incarnate -- let's talk about it. If I'm Lilith Incarnate -- let's talk about it. If I'm just another Completely Ignorant Fool -- let's talk about it. But really, I think I have this mostly figured-out -- but I have no idea what my fate is. I suspect that it's not good -- which is probably why no one is talking to me. I feel as though I am on Second-Death Row. Some of you even know what that means, don't you? Don't all of you answer at once. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9mFn9EhgU4 Once again, this thread is intended to make us face ourselves and think. I'm not an expert on any of this. This is mostly a study-guide -- and I expect great things from those who make a serious study of this thread. The next steps will be the significant ones -- and not my feeble efforts within the Mists. This is only the beginning. Please study this thread as a whole -- and then talk to me. I'll bet there's at least one individual who is being paid to follow my activities -- but obviously they would not be at liberty to disclose to me what they know about me and my tripe! I really wanted to get into an extensive debate concerning everything I've posted -- but this has obviously not happened -- so I really have to debate myself -- which is supposedly one more sign of insanity! I guess I'm at least trying to prepare myself for what might really exist throughout the solar system -- by imagining that I'm right in the middle of all the secret stuff. More delusional insanity -- right? If I really were on the inside, I wouldn't be able to post and speculate like I do -- would I? Of course not! I'm presently just another useless and harmless idiot, who is probably being watched by a lone NSA intern -- who is becoming less and less sane as they read more and more of my 'bright' ideas!
We've Come a Long Way Baby!
Enlil (nlin), (EN = Lord + LÍL = Storm, "Lord (of the) Storm")[1] was the name of a chief deity listed and written about in Sumerian religion, and later in Akkadian, Hittite, Canaanite and other Mesopotamian clay and stone tablets. The name is perhaps pronounced and sometimes rendered in translations as Ellil in later Akkadian, Hittite, and Canaanite literature. In later Akkadian, Enlil is the son of Anshar and Kishar.
Enlil was considered to be the god of breath, wind, loft and breadth (height and distance).[2]
One story names his origins as the exhausted breath of An (god of the heavens) and Ki (goddess of the Earth) after sexual union.
The myth of Enlil and Ninlil discusses when Enlil was a young god, he was banished from Dilmun, home of the gods, to Kur, the underworld for raping a goddess named Ninlil. Ninlil followed him to the underworld where she bore his first child, Nergal, and/or the moon god Sin (Sumerian Nanna/Suen). After fathering three more underworld-deities (substitutes for Sin), Enlil was allowed to return to Dilmun.[3][4]
Enlil was known as the inventor of the mattock (a key agricultural pick, hoe, ax or digging tool of the Sumerians) and caused plants to grow.[5]
Enlil, along with Anu/An, Enki and Ninhursag were gods of the Sumerians.[6]
By his wife Ninlil or Sud, Enlil was father of the moon god Nanna/Suen (in Akkadian, Sin) and of Ninurta (also called Ningirsu). Enlil is the father of Nisaba the goddess of grain, of Pabilsag who is sometimes equated with Ninurta, and sometimes of Enbilulu. By Ereshkigal Enlil was father of Namtar.
Enlil is associated with the ancient city of Nippur, sometimes referred to as the cult city of Enlil.[7] His temple was named Ekur, "House of the Mountain."[8] Enlil was assimilated to the north "Pole of the Ecliptic".[9] His sacred number name was 50.[10]
As Enlil was the only god who could reach the heaven god An he held sway over the other gods who were assigned tasks by his agent and would travel to Nippur to draw in his power. He is thus seen as the model for kingship.[11]
At a very early period prior to 3000 BC, Nippur had become the centre of a political district of considerable extent. Inscriptions found at Nippur, where extensive excavations were carried on during 1888–1900 by John P Peters and John Henry Haynes, under the auspices of the University of Pennsylvania, show that Enlil was the head of an extensive pantheon. Among the titles accorded to him are "king of lands", "king of heaven and earth", and "father of the gods".
His chief temple at Nippur was known as Ekur, signifying 'House of the mountain', and such was the sanctity acquired by this edifice that Babylonian and Assyrian rulers, down to the latest days, vied with one another in embellishing and restoring Enlil's seat of worship, and the name Ekur became the designation of a temple in general.
Grouped around the main sanctuary, there arose temples and chapels to the gods and goddesses who formed his court, so that Ekur became the name for an entire sacred precinct in the city of Nippur. The name "mountain house" suggests a lofty structure and was perhaps the designation originally of the staged tower at Nippur, built in imitation of a mountain, with the sacred shrine of the god on the top.
Enlil was also the God of weather. According to the Sumerians, Enlil helped create the humans, but then got tired of their noise and tried to kill them by sending a flood. A mortal known as Utnapishtim survived the flood through the help of another god, Ea, and he was made immortal by Enlil after Enlil's initial fury.
References^ Halloran, John A.; "Sumerian Lexicon: Version 3.0"; December 10th, 2006 at http://sumerian.org/sumerlex.htm
^ Neo-Sumerian inscriptions clay, Babylonia, 1900–1700 BC, image with translations on display at http://earth-history.com/Sumer/Clay-tablets.htm
^ [1].
^ ^ Sumerian Mythology: A Review Article Thorkild Jacobsen Journal of Near Eastern Studies, Vol. 5, No. 2. (April 1946), pp. 128-152.
^ Hooke. S.H., Middle Eastern Mythology, Dover Publications, 2004
^ Kramer, Samuel Noah, "The Sumerian Deluge Myth: Reviewed and Revised" Anatolian Studies, Vol. 33, Special Number in Honour of the Seventy-Fifth Birthday of Dr. Richard Barnett. (1983), pp. 115-121.
^ William W. Hallo, "Review: Enki and the Theology of Eridu", Journal of the American Oriental Society, 116:2 (Apr.–Jun. 1996), pp. 231–234
^ Reallexikon der Assyriologie II, p. 385.
^ Jeremias, Alfred 1913. Handbuch der altorientalischen Geisteskultur. Leipzig. p. 74.
^ Reallexikon der Assyriologie III. Götterzahlen. p. 500.
^ Kingship in the Mediterranean world, p. 5162a Grottanelli and Mander, Encyclopaedia of Religion, second edition 2005. Thomson Gale.
There isn't much of a Wikipedia section on 'Enlil' is there? What if Enlil was (and is) a Dragon (or at least some sort of Reptilian -- both spiritually and physically)? Would this harmonize with the Revelation depiction of a Dragon in Heaven? How about Carl Sagan's 'The Dragons of Eden'? What about Michael being wroth with the Dragon? What if Michael = Ninlil = Lilith? What if Gabriel replaced Michael after Michael and Enlil had a significant difference of opinion? Come-on! Stop laughing at me! This is serious! What if the universe really is stranger than we can think? What would JBS Haldane say?
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orthodoxymoron wrote:Thank-you Mercuriel. I'm sorry to hear about Zecharia - but he lived a long life. Maybe it was time to go. He was quite the controversial person. I've been thinking - what if our souls are interdimensional reptilian in nature - and what if we came to Earth from Sirius - and created ourselves? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTcF-7opGLU Physically - that is. What if we got caught in the middle of an Amen Ra vs Hathor family feud - with Jesus trying to break-up the fight? One can switch the names around a lot - with all of the gods, goddesses, archangels, biblical characters, et al - but I keep seeing a three-way power-struggling mess - with most of us caught in the middle. Oh - some of us may have some very, very bad karma - but is this really a case of circumstances, situations, misunderstandings, insanity, corruption, deception, escalation, and who-knows-what? Shoudn't we simply attempt to pull the plug on the madness, at this point - and play the blame-game in a reasonable and rational manner - with a Galactic Judge Judy - or something - without the Damned to Hell Penalty? The wild-card may be out of control technology and human/reptilian hybrids on the loose - throughout the solar system. It might be very, very difficult to put the Reptilians Back in the Bottle - at this late date. Here reppie, reppie! Time for din-din! Nice reppie! Sorry Reptilians - but I just couldn't resist! I mean no disrespect. Once again - I'm inviting ALL factions to unite around a Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Solar System aka The United States of the Solar System. As usual - I'm flying blind, scared, and stupid - but you've at least got to give me a B+ for effort and good intentions At this point - I feel like a lost little boy who has wandered onto the battlefield - just before the Battle of the Bulge. I don't want to be a part of any of this - but I have made myself a part of this by my internet activities and speculations. Might we be dealing with Amen Ra Annunaki vs Hathor Annunaki? Gabriel Annunaki vs Lucifer Annunaki? Could Michael be the legitimate leader of the Human Race (us and those who we encounter every day)? Awesome Gods and Goddesses? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b365_qJEpDg Could Adria approximate the Queen of Heaven who anciently came to Tibet from Sirius - to conduct a hybridization program (to create us?) - after stealing fire from the gods? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7lAagZA-H4&NR=1Mercuriel wrote:OK - I have read the Bourdon Material as well as the Julien Material and It correclates with what I have been trying to get out...
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Simply put - I've been trying to tell many that the whole Rebellion / Power Struggle Issue has been Their Issue...
The Bible is Their Story - Not Ours. Did We fall with Them - Yep - But then You'll follow someone Whos never lied to you before won't You...
We've learned the Discernment on that one - Late Yes - But learned It We have...
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BTW - As an aside...
R.I.P.
Zecharia Sitchin passed away last Week...
Born July 1920 (age 90) - Baku, Azerbaijan SSR
Died October 9, 2010 - New York, New York
Thanks for the Enlightenment. You've shed light into Dark corners and for that - We thank You...
> Go easy Zecharia...
I have noticed that so often - things don't work out. We believe something - and then it turns out to be a lie. We trust someone - and they turn out to be a crook. We go here. We go there. We try this. We try that. I guess things will always be that way. I just keep asking questions - as a modus operandi. When I have taken a stand - of sorts - with my mini-crusade regarding a Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Solar System - I feel very uncomfortable. Things can be so illusory. People can be so fickle. Situations can change instantly. In the last two years, I have gained a new sympathy for agnostics - people who think that there are things that go bump in the night - but who aren't really sure who or what it is. Perhaps the Liberal Episcopalians or the Anglican Agnostics are on the right track.
Speaking of religion - a post on another thread spoke of Latin and Rituals in less than flattering terms. I have been taking a look at the possibility of a modified Latin Mass as possibly being a Spiritual Switzerland - especially if the day to day practices of the church were in complete harmony with the Teachings of Jesus and the U.S. Constitution. But perhaps the combination of Rituals, Latin, Cathedrals, etc. - are inherently evil in nature. I am torn by this. Help me out regarding Rituals and Latin. I wish for fundamental changes to occur in all churches - but I don't wish to trample upon how people pray - and to be disruptive regarding what people are used to. How does one save the church - without destroying the church? If the church goes down - the crazy and dangerous cults will thrive. Or - are the crazy cults really crazy? Perhaps the church should go down - and the church doors should be locked. Who knows? But whatever we think or do - it will probably ultimately turn out to be wrong or bs - judging from history. Sorry for the negativity - but I'm really not trying to win a popularity contest. I am simply searching and searching and searching - and I'm not even sure what I'm searching for. Oh wretched man that I am! Who shall deliver me from this bottomless pit of BS???
I will continue to live in the dreamland of a perfected humanity living in a perfected Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Solar System aka The United States of the Solar System - as a sort of an ongoing science fiction movie - which I am in the middle of - every day. I will examine everything from this perspective. This is a test. This is only a test. What would Bill Cooper say? http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=-3333362025779394383
Don't mind me - I'm just going to keep rambling on this thread. I'm beginning to turn this thread primarily - and my other threads secondarily - into a personal religion. I lost my faith - and now I am trying to build a new one. Perhaps someone else can learn something from this process as well. Try reading the first few posts of this thread a couple of times - including all of the links - and see what that does for you. Once again - I am looking at combining the Teachings of Jesus, the U.S. Constitution, and the Latin Mass (including the classical sacred musical literature). In many respects - these are strange bedfellows - but there really is a method to my madness and my heresy. What would a minimalist theocracy look like? I have HUGE problems with the Crusades and the Inquistion - and with all persecution and abuse (including pedophilia) - but who was really presiding over this historical madness? We need to know the full story of our history - including all of the gory and embarrassing details. Is theocracy always wrong? Is the absence of theocracy always right? What is the proper relationship of church and state? Can there be religious freedom in a theocracy? I am very, very suspicious regarding the Roman Catholic Church's role in the United States of America (historically and presently). I fear the reality of who has really been calling the shots - for a long, long time. Something has been very, very wrong. Something is very, very wrong. And I fear that things are about to get a helluva lot worse. I fear that there will not be peace on Earth - until the Roman Catholic Church is in complete harmony with the Teachings of Jesus and the U.S. Constitution. Obviously - this is something for the scholars to consider and work out. I'm simply thinking in broad and general terms. But I would really like to see the Teachings of Jesus replace Canon Law - and I would like to see the U.S. Constitution become the modus operandi of church governance. I don't have a problem with hierarchy and authority - if and only if - it is not corrupt, dictatorial, arrogant, and cruel. I'm just frankly afraid of that which exists underneath Cathedrals and Capitols - in Underground Bases. Who really presides over this realm? This is what really, really troubles me. How dark and deep is the rabbit hole? I fear that it may be a bottomless pit...
Today - I kept having a sort of a vision of being on a UFO with the modern incarnations of Amen Ra and Hathor - as father and daughter Annunaki. Could my avatar approximate the appearance of the daughter? Is this daughter Lucifer? Kali? Mary? The Queen of Heaven? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWO_OTYaTgM We were discussing the fate of Planet Earth. Amen Ra was determined to commence an extermination - and I was determined to keep this from happening. I felt very, very weak and small. This little vision of sorts never resolved. Are we dealing with Father (Incoming) and Daughter (Local) Annunaki Factions - a Nazi Aldebaran Faction - and a Pleiadian Jesus Faction (determined to resolve the conflict between the other factions - and to institute Responsible Freedom and Peace on Earth)? This speculation is starting to feel so real - that I feel like a walking war-zone - and like I am going downhill fast ...
"Today, more than ever before, life must be characterized by a sense of Universal Responsibility, not only nation to nation and human to human, but also human to other forms of life." - Dalai Lama
The following is the first post of another thread 'Death and Taxes'. I am including it in this thread because of relevance. http://www.themistsofavalon.net/universal-lounge-f8/death-and-taxes-t1158.htm
I'd like to look at warfare and taxation - past, present, and future. I have no particular agenda or direction here. I will add more to this post as I get more ideas. 'America - Freedom to Fascism' is probably a good place to begin. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173# 'The Money Masters' is probably a good second video to view. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-515319560256183936# Even though it covers a lot of unrelated territory - 'Behold a Pale Horse' should probably be included in this thread. It will help us to grasp the big-picture in all of this. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2414574348304077734#docid=-7367255331569182231
I am partial to reversing the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 - and disbanding the IRS and the Federal Reserve. I support replacing the current tax-form system with a 5% point of sale consumption tax to directly fund legitimate governmental activities. I am in favor of getting the entire world completely out of debt. I am also in favor of getting the entire world completely out of war. All of this seems to be interrelated. We can't simply deal with one thing. We have to deal with everything.
The following is a composite of my recent posts on another website:
OK...I just received another letter from the IRS...which is prompting probably a dozen internet comments today...with more to follow tomorrow. What percentage of our tax-dollars (from all taxation) goes to the United Nations, Washington D.C., the City of London, the Vatican, the Royal Family, the Secret Space Program, the Secret Government, and the Underground Bases - which may be hostile to the visible and constitutional United States of America? Could paying taxes be a treasonous act? Just as I posted my last comment - Internet Explorer stopped working. Is this coincidental? What percentage of the Worldwide Illegal Drug Trade goes to the entities listed above? Take a very close look at who was behind the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, World War I, the Great Depression, Looting Fort Knox, World War II, Project Paperclip, the Alphabet Agencies Worldwide, the Korean War, the Viet Nam War, the Kennedy Assasinations, the Iraq Wars, and the New World Order. Is all of this related? Repeal the 16th Amendment. Disband the Federal Reserve. Retroactively audit all taxation - and if there is any fraud, misuse, and abuse - return all relevant funds to all affected parties - with penalties and interest. Institute a 5% Federal Consumption Tax (with no tax forms) to fund LEGITIMATE governmental activities. Who really owns the property in the United States of America? Is the U.S. scheduled to undergo a controlled demolition? Keep asking the questions. No rest for the wicked. Are there any class-action lawsuits challenging the taxation system in the U.S.? Do you guys really want to keep writing the nasty letters? I can write some pretty nasty letters myself. I'm small-fry. Going after me could be VERY expensive for you. You know who I am. The electronic surveillance, and even supernatural surveillance, is reprehensible. The taxation system has very little to do with the legitimate and constitutional United States of America. We've been had - BIG TIME...
How much does it cost to administer all taxation in the U.S.? Isn't this a monumental waste of money? Isn't this an activity which is hostile to the citizens of the U.S.? Why wouldn't a point of sale consumption tax (for all taxation) be a huge improvement in effeciency and morale? All taxation funds should go directly to the various legitimate governmental agencies - without passing through corrupt and private hands. This mess needs to be completely exposed NOW. Sorry you wrote that letter? OK...Internet Explorer just shut down again. Twice in 30 minutes - while I was posting the comments and questions above. Coincidental? Get a copy of 'Behold a Pale Horse' by Bill Cooper, and read it twice. Then, watch everything with Bill Cooper on Google and YouTube. There are others - but Bill seems to get to the heart of the matter - in a calm and rational manner. We the People of Earth need to get informed - without getting mad - or going mad. Then we need to clean-up this mess. We the People of Earth have before us the opportunity to forge for ourselves, and for future generations...a True World Order. A world where Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom...not the Old World Disorder Demonic Theocracy...governs the conduct of nations. When we are successful...and we will be...we have a real chance at this True World Order...an order in which a credible United Nations can use Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom to fulfill the promise and vision of All Races. Some people lead. Some people follow. Some people have ideas which are so far ahead of their time - that these ideas will be only be implemented long after their originator has left this world. Things are going to get worse - before they get better - but Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom will rise from the ashes of the New World Order - like the Flight of the Phoenix. I realize that these four BIG words are perplexing to those with small minds and no vision. My apologies.
The following is some advice I received from an anonymous poster - and I cannot vouch for it's accuracy or validity> 'Step one. Google IMF transcripts (Individual Master File) and 'VAL-1". Second send a FOIA request to your local IRS office asking for a copy of your IMF transcripts so that you can see with your own eyes, the 'VAL-1" error code on your transcripts. VAL-1 = Invalid SSN Freeze which means IRS has tricked the computer to believing you owe income tax. (they use other codes as well) This is the foundation of their proof of claim againtst you. NOT THE CONSTITUTION. The Constitution contains 4400 words and was meant to be *understood* by everyone. The Tax Code contains 10,000,000 words and was intended to *steal* from everyone. Any questions? The 16th Amendment wasn’t legally ratified, (see “The Law That Never Was”) and the income tax has been declared unconstitutional by the SCOTUS. Join the nearly 70 million *law abiding* Americans who refuse to pay this extortion.'
Thank-you. You have made me curious enough to try this! Once again - why don't we replace the whole mess with a 5% national federal consumption tax - which goes directly to legitimate governmental activities. Why don't we eliminate nearly all debt - personal and public? Why don't we back the dollar with silver? Why don't we audit the Secret Government, the Secret Space Program, and the Underground Bases? Why don't we REALLY stop the illegal drug trade worldwide? Why is this so hard? I think that the real solutions are really quite simple - but the lies, corruption, hatred, complexity, confusion, and insanity - are so ingrained in our thinking and society - that we can't see the forest for the trees. I really desire a solution - and I really don't wish to rant and rave. Taxation should be simplified. The Secret Government should be transparent. Globalism should be based upon Responsible Freedom. Black Projects should be revealed to the public. Let freedom ring! If you research the Secret Government, the Secret Space Program, Deep Underground Military Bases, Magneto Leviton Trains, The New World Order, Black Projects, etc. - and how they are financed - you will understand why Solar System Governance is a relevant and important issue. We need a Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Solar System aka The United States of the Solar System. Study the words separately. Then study them as a whole, and the light should shine into your dark soul.
Here is the response to the last couple of sentences in the previous paragraph> 'There is no "Secret Space Program" nor "Deep Underground Military Bases", so your strange plans of solar system domination have no meaning. My soul is just fine, thank you.'
Tell us what you think about this subject.
I still need to become more informed regarding the details of the ancient world. I have mostly been thinking in terms of big-picture principles and concepts. Once again, I'm trying to look at a lot of this sort of thing from the perspective of the United Nations, the Vatican, the City of London, Washington D.C., the Secret Government, the Secret Societies, the Jesuits, the Alphabet Agencies, the Royal Family, Israel, the Underground Bases, the Secret Space Program, and on and on... It's all a huge multidisciplinary guessing game - and when one is disoriented and insecure - it's difficult to really absorb the details and see everything clearly. I'm really just asking a lot of questions - shotgun style - hoping that some of the questions lead others to the truth - a truth which will help to set us responsibly free - going forward for millions of years. But this probably involves poking and prodding in areas where such activities are not welcome - and such speculative activities might, in fact, be counterproductive. I am not necessarily hostile and opposed to all of the names and places listed above. I really simply wish for them to conduct business in a much more open and ethical manner. When a critical mass of informed and ethical people are looking over the shoulders (and second-guessing) all of the above - I think things might improve exponentially.
We always end up fighting - don't we? This is probably true everywhere - in families, businesses, governments, churches, and alien civilizations. There are probably word wars transpiring on UFO's and Underground Bases throughout the solar system - even as I type. I just hope that the razzmatazz (thank-you abraxasinas for that word) can move to a much higher road than it travels presently - throughout the solar system. Now I'm going to listen to another Bill Cooper show (Uncle Bill's Bedtime Stories). I'm seriously trying to kick the posting habit. "I can quit anytime I want". "I don't have an obsessive-compulsive posting problem". "The internet alien and conspiracy theories really haven't taken over, and ruined my life". "I'm really a happy and well-balanced human being (or am I a human/reptile hybrid?)". "O wretched man that I am!"
Sorry for the tangent in the midst of the turmoil. I do think there is a legitimate place for fighting and sharp words - but so often it is accompanied by utter stupidity. I just watched 'Stargate Continuum' - and the scene where Ba'al and Katesh aka Vala are in their spaceship - and are preparing to attack and enslave Earth - particularly impressed me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyKy8_sF4xY I thought - what would it be like to discuss forum topics in that setting? Or in the Stargate Command Underground Base? My point is that we often seem to fiddle while Rome burns. If I could do anything I wished - one item at the top of the list - would be to have access to everyone and everything in the solar system - to be able to be a fly on the wall at closed-door meetings - to view secret files - to occasionally speak with key humans and non-humans - but to have no authority - just access. I like to watch. Can someone arrange this? Once again - I know I'm crazy - but I'm also serious!
Here is another what if. What if it's Gabriel vs Lucifer + Michael - with Gabriel and Lucifer being the big-guns - and Michael being highly pure, but relatively powerless compared with the other two? Might Lucifer and Michael be co-mediators between Gabriel and Humanity? Might Gabriel be God/Satan? Might Lucifer be Mary/Holy Spirit? Might Michael be Jesus? Once again - don't get mad at me - this is just more speculation. My goal is to make you face yourselves - and think. Could Gabriel have been disfunctional in Heaven (Orion?)? Could Lucifer and Michael have rebelled against Gabriel? Did Humanity aka Fallen Angels aka Nephilim aka Us - follow (fall) Lucifer and Michael to Earth? Did we steal Fire (advanced technology, hybridization genetics, and spiritual wisdom) from Gabriel? Was this the Original Sin? Are Lucifer and Michael at odds regarding how to deal with Gabriel? Is Gabriel the leader of the Incoming Annunaki? Is Lucifer the leader of the Local Annunaki? Is Michael the leader of Humanity (as we know humans to be)? I keep feeling incredible tension and looming fate - as I contemplate our situation. Earth really does seem to be a Planet in Rebellion - and it feels as though the rebellion is about to be put down - once and for all. But what if ALL parties are wrong? What if an innovative solution needs to be pursued? I keep mentioning a Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Solar System aka The United States of the Solar System. I like the concept - but I am clueless regarding the details and implementation aspects. I'll just keep passively pursuing this line of reasoning - and hope that the Big Gun Gods and Goddesses call off Armageddon, Retribution, Annihilation, Damnation, Utter Destruction, etc. - and declare some sort of a conditional truce - to work things out in a reasonable, rational, and peaceful manner. Hope springs eternal - but don't hold your breath - hoping for hell to freeze over...
At this point - I am expecting to reincarnate endlessly in this solar system. I have signed on to see this thing through. I do not intend to abandon ship - even though I often feel an overwhelming desire to do so. Why do we think that things are better elsewhere? Why do we think that physicality is so damn bad and restrictive? Are we a bunch of ingrates? I grew up in an organization which looked forward to the end of the world - the destruction of the world - and the annihilation of the sinful and unbelieving masses (except for the faithful few) - with no second chances - at the hands of a god of love - who would make everything right. I will not cut my fellow humans loose. I will not tolerate the destruction of this beautiful planet. I wish to help bring sanity to this solar system through a methodical pursuit of responsibility - to benefit each and every soul - regardless of their purity or corruption. Some may have to go to soul school - but not to eternal destruction. The true Creator God of the Universe may have other plans - but until such time as these plans are implemented - I will pursue a course of action which preserves this solar system and it's inhabitants. This is a solemn responsibility which none of us should take lightly. Sun. Fun. Stay. Play. World Without End. Amen.
OK - I just purchased a bunch of books and DVD's - mostly science fiction. I intend to keep this thread clearly in mind as I read and view these materials. You see - the basic concepts and documents in this thread may be quite boring - especially if you are looking for the latest freak-show - but when one applies these concepts and documents to both sci-fi and real-world situations - things become very, very interesting. I predict that this thread will be the way of the future - but I don't think that I will be a part of it - not in this incarnation, at least. But in a sense - I don't need to be a part of it - because I see the future very clearly in my mind's eye. When I spoke with Terence McKenna regarding the imagination, he said "if you dream it - you've already done it." I agree. It's already a done-deal. A Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Solar System aka The United States of the Solar System - based upon Responsibility and the U.S. Constitution - will rise from the ashes of The New World Order aka The Old World Disorder Demonic Theocracy - like the Flight of the Phoenix.
Here are some video links which should probably be viewed or listened to repeatedly:
1. Bill Cooper: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2414574348304077734#docid=-7367255331569182231
2. Commander X: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8420071240361070544#
3. Alex Collier (1994): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8316692185126189734#
Read between the lines, and consider these videos in the light of that which I have discussed on this, and other threads. I don't agree with everything in the videos (and some of the material is boring, or of low production quality) - but I am trying to create a foundation consisting of a conceptual core of truth - so as to facilitate bigger and better things for humanity - without making disastrous detours.
I think that church history is a total mess and a complete disaster - but where do we go from here? What would you say and do if it were up to you to reform the church? It's a very, very sensitive and tricky enterprise - to start meddling with how people pray. All I know - is that I am trying to create an imaginary ecumenical religion for myself. It's not going real well - but I'm trying. Here are my 9.5 Theses:
1. Replace Canon Law with the Teachings of Jesus.
2. Institute a Modified Latin Mass (with no communion - emphasizing the remembrance of Christ and His Teachings - rather than His Sacrifice) - offering Masses seven days a week - with no preference regarding the day or days of attendance.
3. Base All Homilies, Theology, and Ritual Upon the Teachings of Jesus.
4. Eliminate Penance and Confession (replacing both with psychological and spiritual counselling).
5. Allow Women to be Priests and Popes.
6. Allow Priests to Marry and Popes to Marry (and eliminate all blasphemous titles).
7. Eliminate All Crucifixes (The bloody, dying, and mostly naked Jesus should not be paraded and displayed).
8. Be Completely Honest Regarding the History of the Church, the World, the Solar System, the Galaxy, and the Universe.
9. Institute a Program of Responsible Reproduction (lifting the ban on birth-control).
9.5. Base Civil and Church Governance on the U.S. Constitution.
ORTHODOXYMORON GUIDESTONE:
1. BASE THIS SOLAR SYSTEM UPON RESPONSIBILITY AND THE U.S. CONSTITUTION.
2. MAINTAIN AN EARTH HUMAN POPULATION OF FOUR BILLION (TWO BILLION SURFACE - TWO BILLION SUBSURFACE) AND FOUR BILLION THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE SOLAR SYSTEM (MOSTLY SUBSURFACE).
3. BASE PHYSICAL, MENTAL, AND SPIRITUAL HEALTH UPON PREVENTION.
4. MAINTAIN A PRISTINE ENVIRONMENT.
5. USE ELECTRICAL POWER FOR NEARLY EVERYTHING, AND UTILIZE MAGNETO-LEVITON TRAINS FOR MOST GLOBAL TRANSPORTATION.
Here I Stand (or perhaps I should run).
This is simply a brain-storm. This is simply something to think about. This is simply an attempt to create a Spiritual Switzerland.
World Without End.
Amen.
I mean no harm. I am going to retrace my steps - and really attempt to absorb the territory I have covered so hastily and hesitatingly - and really attempt to separate the wheat from the chaff. I will also attempt to internalize the wheat - and to walk the walk. I have tried to bring others along with me on my journey - and this may have been a mistake. But I really do think that the areas covered are key - and that they should be studied carefully. What I should probably do - is proceed as though I were writing a doctoral dissertation - and produce a 1,000 page scholarly book - with 100 pages of footnotes. I doubt that such a lofty goal will materialize - judging from my limited track record - but someone needs to do this. Joseph Farrell - where are you?
Many years ago - there was a TV show called 'Queen for a Day' - and my grandmother was on it. Can you imagine being 'Queen of Heaven for a Day?' I keep getting the image of someone looking a lot like my avatar (for special occasions anyway) - travelling around the world on magneto-leviton trains - and interacting with most of the political, religious, scientific, business, and financial leaders of the world - each and every day. But it is unclear to me whether Earth is completely their show - or whether they are an administrator for - or are in conflict with - an even more powerful being, or group of beings. This, of course, is merely speculation. If I could prove this - I would cease to exist. I wouldn't have to wait for the rocks to fall on me...
I would love to shadow the key players in this solar system as sort of a neutral observer. Is this sort of thinking a form of mental illness - or is it the proper way to think about solar system issues? Should I get all wrapped-up in the local political mudslinging - or should I mostly think of responsible principles and concepts relative to the politics, religion, psychology, and ethics of doing business in this solar system? I'm beginning to think in terms of competing with an Anna or Katesh version of the Queen of Heaven - who I think might be the chief administrator of this solar system. Again - is this a form of mental illness - or is this a reasonable modality of getting a handle on what's really going on? Is there a legitimate place for a Solar System Administrator? Would things be even more chaotic if none existed? I'm thinking that a Solar System Observer (or Observers) - who had access to everyone and everything - with no authority - might be a good thing - but I don't really know. Thinking about all of this makes me shaky. Is anyone else thinking in this manner? I'm sure there is - but who are they? Where are they? What are they doing?
My speculations have been quite wild - but also quite vivid, to me at least - so I really don't know which way to jump. Is this a sign of instability - or is it simply due dilligence? What do you think about all of this goddess, Kali, Tibet, China, India, Persia, Queen of Heaven stuff? I really feel as though this is playing with fire - but I'm hoping that considering all of the possibilities will help to unite all factions in the solar system - in a constructive manner, which does not involve peace at any price, or any Trojan Horse scenarios.
Here is some more Queen of Heaven material. http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/09/25/mary-queen-of-heaven-whore-of-babylon/
Mary has appeared under many names over the centuries, here are but a few:
Mary, Queen of Heaven (Rome)
Arianrhod (Welsh) Goddess of fertility
Aprodite (Greek) Goddess of fertility
Ashteroth (Phoenicians and Canaanites) Goddess of fertility
Astarte (Eastern Mediterranean/Bronze Age) Goddess of fertility
Anahita (Persian) Goddess of fertility
Anu (Celtic) Goddess of fertility
Aveta (Gaulish) Goddess of fertility
Brigit (Irish) Goddess of fertility
Ceres (Rome) Goddess of fertility
Corn Mother (Native American) Earth Goddess/Goddess of fertility
Cybele (Rome) Goddess of fertility
Demeter (Greek) Goddess of fertility
Freya (Scandinavian) Goddess of fertility
Frigg (Scandinavian) Goddess of fertility
Gaia (Greek) Mother goddess
Hathor (Egyptian) Goddess of fertility
Haumea (Hawaiian) Mother goddess
Inanna (Sumerian) Goddess of fertility
Ishtar (Babylonian/Assyrian) Goddess of fertility
Isis (Egyptian) Goddess of fertility
Juno (Rome) Goddess of fertility
Kali (Indian) – Black earth mother/Goddess of fertility
Kostroma (Slavic) Goddess of fertility
Mylitta (Sumerian) Goddess of fertility
Oshun (Afro/Cuban) Goddess of fertility
Rainbow Snake (Aborigine) – Earth Goddess/Goddess of fertility
Rhea (Greek) Mother goddess
Tlalteutli (Aztec) Goddess of creation
Venus (Rome) Goddess of fertility
Vasudhara (Tibetan) Goddess of fertility
Check this link out! One Nation Under Satan? In Goddess We Trust? http://lifttheveil.20.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=21 Might M-42, Aldebaran, and Sirius be 'home' for most of us? Are we really the 'Orion Group' which Alex Collier refers to? Are our souls interdimensional reptilian in nature? Are all of us human/reptile hybrids with varying percentage differentials? Do most of us have a very low reptile percentage (reptilian brain + reptilian soul) - greys an intermediate percentage - and reptilians a high percentage? Please don't laugh - this is just a wild theory. I tend to think that the Queen of Heaven has been conducting a hybridization program on Earth for thousands of years - starting in Tibet. Some of this is based upon a visit to Tibet by Nicholas Roerich - where he saw strange grey people, and learned of a 'Sovereign Queen of the Air' who had come to Tibet from Sirius to conduct hybridization experiments. Lucis Creator? I am obviously a fan of an organized decentralism solar system government. I'm thinking that a one world government or one solar system government has existed for thousands of years - and that whoever is in power (The Queen of Heaven?) wishes to remain in power - rather than gaining power. I do think that numerous states are an essential ingredient in a world government or solar system government which maximizes responsible freedom over an extended time period.
I keep thinking that all proposed solutions and attempted implementations will be highly problematic. No matter how we attempt to put the puzzle together - it will always be wrong. There will always be discord and conflict. However - we really should seek more sane ways to manage the insanity. All of this should probably proceed in an evolutionary rather than a revolutionary manner. Top-down would probably be better than bottom-up - but both would be optimal. Talking softly and carrying a big stick would be splendiferous!
I'm also going to read a bunch of fringe books - and watch a bunch of sci-fi DVD's. I just watched a Battlestar Galactica DVD - and I'm rewatching the old 'V' series. I also purchased a DVD with the first twelve episodes of the current 'V' series. I'm reading 'The God's of Eden' by William Bramley. I see things coming into focus - but I'm still pretty shaky about my new paradigm. I'm really going to try to post a lot less - but I'm not mad. Speaking of which - the more calm and passive the discovery process, the better. The disclosure material itself is so explosive - that one should probably go out of their way to take it slow and easy. I'm still interested in a job which helps to facilitate a Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Solar System aka The United States of the Solar System - which involves access without authority. Hell - I just want to fly in a UFO - without getting shipped off to a slave-labor yttrium mine on Planet 666 - and then used as food when I slow down. I really and truly hope that this solar system is in the process of becoming much more reasonable and ethical - with or without me. Namaste. I am of peace. Always.
You may not like this subject. You may not like me. You may not agree with me on this subject. But who REALLY owns and operates this solar system? What is the governmental structure of this solar system? What should the governmental structure of this solar system be? Does anyone know? Does anyone care? Or is it more important to Kick Dick? No wonder the Gods and Goddesses don't trust us to be the Masters of Our Fate, and the Captains of Our Souls...
OUT of the night that covers me,
Black as the Pit from pole to pole,
I thank whatever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.
In the fell clutch of circumstance
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance
My head is bloody, but unbowed.
Beyond this place of wrath and tears
Looms but the Horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years
Finds, and shall find, me unafraid.
It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate:
I am the captain of my soul.
~ William Ernest Henley (Invictus)
I just ran out of pearls and patience simultaneously. The corrupt will continue to rule the stupid until hell freezes over. Don't hold your breath. My idealism is morphing into pragmatism. Perhaps it is time to begin playing hardball. But I much prefer softball.
Here is a link to a U.N. related lecture on global governance. Once again - this thread is all about transforming the United Nations and the City States. Have you checked out the United Nations University? http://unu.edu/events/files/2010/10-10-29_Deiss-speech.pdf Consider this thread to be The United States of the Solar System University! I think I'm going to pursue this as a Shadow Shadow Government! Or perhaps as a Parallel United Nations (on an alternate timeline)! Just think of participating in the United Nations, the Vatican, the City of London, Washington D.C., the Secret Government, the Secret Space Program, and the Underground Bases. Consider all of these as one unit. Consider an idealized version of all of the above - without corruption, creepy rituals, violent intrigue, etc. Once again - I don't wish to reinvent the wheel - I simply wish to help make it perfectly round and true. Once again - I am a United Nations Country Club Constitutionalist - rather than a Shotgun and Constitution in My Truck Constitutionalist. I think this is a very, very important distinction. I'd love to chat - but now I'm going to listen to Alex Jones...Mercuriel wrote:Oxy - Since You seem to love Riddles and deciphering them I have a Path to trickle down in relation to the U.N. if You're Interested and utlimately a Truth You can expose to the Membership - If You're up for It ?
Heck ya! I've got no problems with walking tall into a minefield, like the uppity pseudo-intellectual that I am!
Just as an aside - imagine being a Wall Street trader who sings in the choir at St. Patrick's Cathedral, and who is close friends with people who work at the United Nations, Washington insiders, high-ranking clergy, and 9/11 truthers. I sometimes think that I would like to try something like this. Once again - the ultimate goal is a big-tent solution - which treats each and every soul with dignity and respect - and which is non-violent and non-corrupt. I bring peace rather than a sword. Have you ever considered the 'sword statement' by Jesus? This is one of those hard-sayings of Jesus, which are flies in the ointment for me. What did the redacters do - and when did they do it? What would F. F. Bruce say? What would the Jesus Seminar say? What would Lucifer say?
To any of you who work in Hollywood - consider combining the 'V' and 'Stargate' concepts - and including the United Nations, the Vatican, the City of London, Washington D.C., the Alphabet Agencies, the Secret Government, the Secret Space Program, the Military, the Underground Bases, Hollywood, and the Alternative Media. My guess is that this is probably already in the works. The idea would be to help people understand how the solar system really works - and how they can constructively contribute to it's success. The truth will set us free - but the truth needs to be properly presented - so as to avoid thermonuclear war, chemical and biological warfare, tectonic warfare, international terrorism, worldwide riots, civil war, mass suicide, mass extermination, mass enslavement, mass hysteria, etc, etc, etc.
Here are a lot of my speculations, which somewhat relate to your question and subject. http://www.themistsofavalon.net/universal-lounge-f8/amen-ra-et-al-t1116.htm I am presently trying to devotionally study the Four Gospels, the Federalist Papers, and the Anti-Federalist Papers - while listening to Latin Masses and Classical Sacred Music. I have recently speculated that the Queen of Heaven controls the Politics and Religion of this Solar System - and that she is the equivalent of Lucifer. Could the chief administrator of the Solar System be similar to my avatar? Could this be the 'Whore of Babylon' - who made the nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication? See - I'm thinking that religious and political leaders may have to deal with more secret and hidden problems than we can possibly imagine. I just watched 'Stargate Continuum' - and the scene where Ba'al and Katesh aka Vala are in their spaceship - and are preparing to attack and enslave Earth - particularly impressed me. Might world leaders have had to deal with something like this (historically and/or presently)? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyKy8_sF4xY Could there be a real-life Katesh (Vala) aka Queen of Heaven - who controls us by controlling the United Nations and the City States? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3A6_blpqpU Could words similar to this have been spoken by the Queen of Heaven? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z7O7UZxipM Here is a possible positive future for the Queen of Heaven. http://www.hulu.com/watch/108637/stargate-sg-1-the-powers-that-be I have further speculated that she is a mixture of good, evil, genius, sanity, and insanity - and that she needs to retire - and turn Solar System Governance over to 10,000 highly competent human beings - under Responsibility and the U.S. Constitution (in general terms). This would provide for continued religious pluralism and cultural diversity. I am not a cultural imperialist. I am a pompous, supercilious, bombastic, pseudo-intellectual, triumphalistic, liberal, traditionalist, amillennialist, sedavacantist, Red-Letter Christian, new-age agnostic, orthodoxymoron. Special note to the Queen of Heaven: I mean no harm or disrespect. I am simply trying to consider all of the possibilities. I really desire a happy ending/beginning to all of this - for everyone - including you. I'd like to give you a big hug someday! Really and truly! I'm trying to remain detached in order to get at the truth - but when this thing gets resolved - I will be a lot warmer, and a lot more friendly.
Consider these relevant shows by Bill Cooper:
1. Ecumenism http://video.google.com/videoplay?
2. UN Meditation Room http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=4604236815407306259
3. Sun Worship http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=-2002620178209550141 docid=3599318374287156941#docid=1609106881997572639
4. From Babylon to Christianity http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=2458737986938578435
Here is something else, to help get the ball rolling. 'One World Religion, The U.N. and the New World Order (pt. 1)' http://www.thepatriotscave.com/2009/04/one-world-religion-un-and-new-world.html
"Greetings sisters and brethren. Our nation is being systematically dismantled. All nations are. All religions are also. It is being destroyed by the New World Order. The United Nations is a key tool of the NWO. Much of the NWO plans are carried out via U.N. treaties and mandates, roundtables and "thinktanks". The United Nations operates under Luciferian doctrine. This is no theory, this is documented fact. Through the U.N., the NWO is creating for your children a one world religion. An organization known as LUCIS TRUST, is the primary executor of the New World Order's plan for a one world religion. Lucis Trust was called LUCIFER TRUST until the name was changed for obvious reasons. The office of Lucis Trust was also moved. As bizarre as it may seem, the office of LUCIFER TRUST was actually located at the address: 666 United Nations Plaza, New York, New York. Here is a quote from the founder of Lucifer Trust herself, Alice Bailey: "Evidence of the growth of the human intellect along the needed receptive lines [for the preparation of the New Age] can be seen in the "planning" of various nations and in the efforts of the United Nations to formulate a world plan... From the very start of this unfoldment, three occult factors have governed the development of all these plans". [Alice B. Bailey, Discipleship in the New Age (Lucis Press, 1955), Vol. II, p.35.]
And consider the following from http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/ : Sri Chinmoy, the New Age guru, meditation leader at the UN, wrote: "the United Nations is the chosen instrument of God; to be a chosen instrument means to be a divine messenger carrying the banner of God's inner vision and outer manifestation." William Jasper, author of "A New World Religion" describes the religion of the UN: "...a weird and diabolical convergence of New Age mysticism, pantheism, aboriginal animism atheism, communism, socialism, Luciferian occultism, apostate Christianity, Islam, Taoism, Buddhism, and Hinduism". http://www.lucistrust.org/ You can find out much more about them and how they're involved with the work of the United Nations by following their link "World Goodwill" at the top of their home page. The Aquarian Age Community http://www.aquaac.org/ This Website is sponsored by the United Nations and the whole NWO philosophy is there. The page which explains the work of the Aquarian Age Community, as they call themselves, has this proud quote at the header of their page at http://www.aquaac.org/about/about.html --- end of http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/ excerpts and quotes.
The following is taken directly from the U.N. rostered LUCIS TRUST website: The Will To Good There are six recognitions that can provide a basis for realising these purposes and objectives: One: Humanity is not following a haphazard or uncharted course -- there is a Plan. This Plan has always existed and is part of the greater design of the Cosmos. The Plan has worked out through the evolutionary developments of the past and because of the special impetus given it from time to time by the great leaders, teachers and intuitives of the human race. Two: There is an inner spiritual government of the planet, known under such different names as the spiritual Hierarchy, the society of Illumined Minds, or Christ and his Church, according to various religious traditions. Humanity is never left without spiritual guidance or direction under the Plan. Three: The widespread expectation that we approach the "Age of Maitreya", as it is known in the East, when the World Teacher and present head of the spiritual Hierarchy, the Christ, will reappear among humanity to sound the keynote of the new age. Four: There are millions of mentally alert men and women in all parts of the world who are en rapport with the Plan and work to give it expression. They are people in whom the consciousness of humanity as one interdependent unit is alive and active. They regard the many differing national, religious and social systems in which they serve as modes of expanding human consciousness and ways by which humanity learns needed lessons. Their primary function is, through their living example, to give humanity a new and better vision of what life should be. Five: The heart of humanity is sound. Our era is notable for the growth of goodwill and altruistic endeavour. All the crises, wars and catastrophes of the twentieth century have been unable to crush the human spirit. Six: The Plan for humanity is based on the principles of sharing, cooperation, practical brotherhood, right relationships between all people and between nations, and goodwill in action. These beliefs give a new dimension to spiritual reality and a long-range perspective to our present crises. They provide opportunity for cooperation with the spiritual evolution of humanity and increase our capacity for freedom. There is no group so likely to ensure that humanity achieves this most difficult goal as the men and women of goodwill. Provided they can overcome inertia they are in a key position, requiring only courage to express goodwill and to initiate action to prepare for the new world order. Mobilising Goodwill The hope for the future lies in the hands of men and women of goodwill. Leaders, managers, technical experts and specialists in all areas of life are relatively helpless without the massed cooperation of people of goodwill. Focussed enlightened public opinion has no equal and can be a major factor in world reconstruction. But it has been little used. The major need today is to educate world public opinion in the significance of goodwill as a powerful creative energy and way of life; and to mobilise men and women to establish goodwill as a keynote of the coming new age civilisation. World Goodwill aids in this task by: Advice and assistance to individual men and women to increase their effectiveness in service. Cooperation with the world service action of other organisations, and groups of organisations. Support for the work of the United Nations and its Specialised Agencies as the main hope for humanity's future. Meditation on right human relations and the energy of goodwill. A Worldwide Educational Programme which includes: A Distribution Programme of pamphlets to all parts of the world, with the assistance of volunteer associates and cooperating groups. The World Goodwill Newsletter, a regular publication highlighting the energy of goodwill in world affairs. The newsletter presents a universal spiritual approach to topics of concern. Occasional Papers and Study Sets, dealing with some of the world's major problems. The World Goodwill Commentary, a goodwill periodical, displaying evidences of the emerging new age civilisation with comment on current world events. The World Goodwill Forum, regular meetings, including an annual seminar in London, New York and Geneva, highlight groups and individuals working to meet world need. Audio recordings are distributed worldwide. The Reappearance of the Christ This is a time of preparation not only for a new civilisation and culture in a new world order, but also for the coming of a new spiritual dispensation. Humanity is not following an uncharted course. There is a divine Plan in the Cosmos of which we are a part. At the end of an age human resources and established institutions seem inadequate to meet world needs and problems. At such a time the advent of a Teacher, a spiritual leader or Avatar, is anticipated and invoked by the masses of humanity in all parts of the world. Today the reappearance of the World Teacher, the Christ, is expected by millions, not only by those of Christian faith but by those of every faith who expect the Avatar under other names -- the Lord Maitreya, Krishna, Messiah, Imam Mahdi and the Bodhisattva. Glamour and distortion surround this central fact of divine response to human need. This is inevitable but unimportant. The fact of transition into a new age is important. Preparation by men and women of goodwill is needed to introduce new values for living, new standards of behaviour, new attitudes of non-separateness and cooperation, leading to right human relations and a world at peace. The coming world Teacher will be mainly concerned, not with the result of past error and inadequacy, but with the requirements of a new world order and with the reorganisation of the social structure. World Goodwill distributes educational and informative literature on these themes. A world prayer, the Great Invocation, is distributed on a worldwide scale in many languages and dialects. World Goodwill also cooperates in organising the annual World Invocation Day, with special focus on the use of the Great Invocation worldwide. Problems of Humanity The problem of establishing right relationships between people and between nations is of urgent concern in a world in crisis. The immediate spiritual problem is that of offsetting selfish separateness by the technique of trained, imaginative, creative and practical goodwill. There is no problem that cannot be solved by the energy of goodwill and no problem can be solved without it. Goodwill really practised among political and religious groups in any nation, and among the nations of the world, can revolutionise the world. World Goodwill provides a series of study papers on the major problems of human progress. Emphasis is placed upon underlying causes and emerging trends rather than on a factual survey of events. The use of the trained mind in reflective thought and meditation is encouraged. The problems dealt with include: Capital, Labour and Employment The Minorities The Churches and Organised Religion Children, Youth and Education Psychological Renewal of the Nations International Unity There are many lesser problems but these are the major ones with which humanity is at this time confronted and which must find solution. This will be done by the establishing of right human relations. The formation of study groups is encouraged so that through study, discussion and meditation a "thoughtform of solution" may be generated and local forms of service activity initiated. These problems can also be discussed in online forums. Lucis Trust.
Notice how that propaganda uses the word "Goodwill" so much? The reason is because that is the name of their organization. World Goodwill. That is the name of their one-world religious group. So they pound it into your head that their one-world religion is the only way. And that there is no other way. Robert Muller, assistant secretary general of the United Nations at one time, channled spiritual entities for guidance on creating policy for the New World Order. They all channel spirits. They all worship Lucifer. They all want a New World Order with a new, ONE-WORLD RELIGION. In his book, THE OCCULT CHARACTER OF THE UNITED NATIONS, Allan Morrison exposes the matter further: Dr. Robert Muller also sheds some light on the relationship of the United Nations to the "New Spirituality". He rewrites the first chapter of the biblical Book of Genesis to make it refer to the creation of the United Nations. Under the title of 'The New Genesis', the first verse states: "And God saw that all nations of the earth, black and white, rich and poor, from North or South, from East and West, and of all creeds were sending their emissaries to a tall glass house [i.e. the U.N. Headquarters. AM] on the shores of the River of the Rising Sun, on the Island of Manhattan, to stand together, to think together, and to care together for the world and all its people. And God said: "That is good". And it was the first day of the New Age of the Earth'. [Robert Muller (ed.), The Desire to be Human: A Global Reconnaissance of Human Perspectives in an Age of Transformation (Miranana, 1983), p.17.] +++++++ In order to preserve brevity, Joel the K invites you to return to the Patriots Cave tomorrow for part II of this series on how the U.N. is working through the publishing house of Lucis Trust to saturate your children with New World Order Luciferian religious propaganda. Don't forget to pray hard, tell the truth, stand up for what you know is right, and prepare yourself and your family for a tribulation."Mercuriel wrote:Awesome and Their One World Religion will be based on the...
Urantia Book.
Their U.N. Theosophist was a student of Blavatsky's and Alice Bailey's Works. I'll have to find You His name...
Hes like the U.N.'s Archbishop by Position even though there isn't a Position for It yet or so They tell Us.
Ashtar Command - Gizeh Intelligence ring a bell ? Yep - All related...
Thank-you Mercuriel. I'll have to go back to the Urantia Book, for another look. I mostly studied that part about the Luciferian Rebellion and War in Heaven. I'm taking everything with a boatload of salt, these days, but I am still trying to remain open and receptive. I just bought three books which are relevant to this thread. The first is 'Soldiers of Reason' by Alex Abella - regarding the history of the Rand Corporation. The second is 'Family of Secrets' by Russ Baker - regarding the 'Bush Dynasty, America's Invisible Government, and the Hidden History of the Last 50 Years.' The third is 'Under Ground Bases and Tunnels' by Richard Sauder. It's really hard to settle down and be happy when one is so far down the damn rabbit hole that you can't see the sunshine anymore! The effect, though, is that it's not making me angry. It's making me feel a huge sense of responsibility, to try to help clean up the mess - without starting worldwide riots and World War III.
Are Ashtar Command and Gizeh Intelligence the same thing - or are they two factions of essentially the same group. Are they Annunaki, Masonic, Nazi, and Luciferian? I really think that the advanced technology and underground bases are kinda cool. But I fear that Ike was right, when he said that the technology was in the worst of hands. How can this madness be brought under the control of the best of hands? That's what this thread is mostly about. I feel as though this solar system has been out of control for thousands of years - and is becoming increasingly lawless and unethical. I wish for people to be free - but highly ethical and responsible. This is a delicate balance. I tend to think that the Queen of Heaven can make this happen - but I don't know how deep-seated the whole Babylonian, Medo-Persian, Aryan, Egyptian, Grecian, Sacred Roman Empire really is. When the beast really stands up and roars - it might surprise and horrify even me. I just want the problems to go away - and for everyone to be happy. Is that too much to ask?
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I really am afraid of the 'rulers' because I see a very dark recorded history -- and I suspect an even darker non-recorded history. I'm sensing that some sort of war occurred in antiquity -- which humanity lost -- and some sort of control, punishment, and taxation system was implemented -- complete with a God of This World to enforce the judgment against humanity. I suspect that prophecy is a part of this punishment-judgment. I'm going to continue to think in terms of a Human Purgatory-Prison Planet in Rebellion -- in a Hermaphrodite Reptilian Universe with a Universal Church Theocracy. Mind you, I don't necessarily think that such a universe should not exist. I'm just presently extremely apprehensive regarding the survival of humanity. I'm not happy with humanity -- but I think that a modification of the existing power structure might facilitate bringing out the best in the human race. I think we should learn from ALL civilizations and races -- human and otherwise. What worries me, is that when people are in a position to take advantage of other people, they often do. Seemingly good people are capable of doing terrible things under certain circumstances. If Joe the Plumber were made an Elite overnight -- he might do worse things than the Elites are accused of doing. Morality is a relative and fickle thing. I really wonder what the physical and spiritual make-up of beings throughout the universe really is? Human Beings seem to be somewhat unstable, irrational, and irresponsible. I'm trying to understand us -- and I am trying to understand the other than human beings throughout the universe. I am attempting to use Political and Theological Science-Fiction to explore such subjects -- but this venture is progressing rather slowly. I mean well, but I often lack consistency and follow-through. While I continue to contemplate Idealistic Divine Conceptualizations -- I also continue to contemplate the possibility that we might be dealing with a Reptilian God in Conflict with a Human God -- which is really Reincarnationally-Archangelic in Nature. What if this is the case? What if both of them are a mixture of good and evil -- sanity and insanity? I support the Idealistic Views -- yet I think we need to completely investigate the Non-Idealistic Views. With a lot of people it's 'All or Nothing' -- they either believe the Idealistic View -- or they become Atheists -- probably because they can't deal with the Theological Realities (which might be quite harsh, confusing, disorienting, and distressing). I'm presently trying to be both friend and foe of the elite. If I ever met with some of them -- I have no doubt that the atmosphere would be icy -- yet polite. At this point, I mostly want to continue to try to understand a lot of different things -- including how the elites think and function. If we deleted all of the present elites, things might not improve. The whole mentality of humanity must undergo a fundamental transformation. I think the internet is facilitating this transformation -- yet I fear that the infowar is spiraling out of control. Once again, I favor evolutionary (rather than revolutionary) change. We need to transcend the elites -- rather than simply deleting them.
Asking questions and posing hypotheticals are my modus operandi, and I suspect they always will be. Even if I were somehow involved in solar system governance, I would continue with my internet posting style, even though it seems to irritate just about everyone. Perhaps that's a good thing. I know I need to get a lot more sophisticated and refined with all of this -- but I'm sort of a burned-out basket-case these days -- and it's difficult to do what I know I need to do. My plan is to keep reviewing my threads, in the context of everything on the internet, and just keep refining and expanding the original hypothesis. I wish I had a Cray and a team of researchers to assist my modeling. I actually like what I've been doing -- even as a potential administrative modality -- wherein a desired direction is hinted-at -- but never ordered or micromanaged. I really like Political and Theological Science-Fiction. I just wish that I had this down to a science -- but hope springs eternal. I'm trying to walk a road less traveled -- which seems to involve some sort of crazy-making! I tend to listen to this type of thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9vEJycKnXA I guess I'm both a friend and enemy of the City States and the Secret Government. I'm trying to be very open-minded and very discerning. I tend to end-up being somewhat non-committal and non-vocal in all of this -- mostly because it's hard to pin a lot of the empire-stuff down -- and because a lot of the subject matter is so frightening and monumental. The factions, agendas, and insanity are probably endless. I think I'd mostly like to lurk -- lifetime after lifetime. One more thing. To you Megalomaniacs Anonymous who feel the need to Control Jerusalem, Rebuild the Temple, and Rule the World from Jerusalem -- Consider NOT destroying Jerusalem and the Dome of the Rock. At least consider an Underground Base and Temple -- Underneath the Dome of the Rock. I have no feelings one way or the other. I don't see the importance of a particular location. It would be possible to Rule From Pluto -- With a Bunch of Plutocrats!
Check out this index for the 'Annals of Air and Space Law'!!! http://www.mcgill.ca/files/iasl/Annals_topics_index.pdf Notice especially the '1967 Outer Space Treaty'. This is the sort of thing I need to dig into. I also need to do it without expecting conversation with anyone. I need to master Mental-Masturbation! I also need to become a Master-Debater! I need to stop begging for approval -- and simply live within Solar System Governance -- with my mind constantly considering every conceivable possibility and eventuality connected with a New Solar System in a Brave New Universe. But I will need to function in the 'Real World' with a small portion of my consciousness. A very small portion. I'm sold on responsibility, but I continue to be irresponsible. I'm trying to change that. Also, check out www.space-settlement-institute.org I really need to focus on Constitutional Law, Space Law -- and perhaps Canon Law. What if a version of Canon Law existed which included U.S. Constitutional Law, Space Law, and the Teachings of Jesus?? Do you sort of see what I'm getting at? This thing is so much larger than what I am capable of properly dealing with. I still think that reading 'The Federalist Papers', the 1928 'Book of Common Prayer', and 'The Desire of Ages' over and over again -- while listening to the Bach B-Minor Mass -- is an excellent place to start. Imagine a Royal Model Version of Washington D.C. in the City of London. Once this thing gets properly refined -- I think it might be uber-cool -- but the likelihood of launch-pad destruction is quite high. I think this concept might take the rest of the 21st century to properly implement -- if we can survive that long. I suspect that the Galactic PTB probably consider this to be a 'Hail Mary Play' for the Human Race. The obstacles would be enormous. The power struggles and factional fighting would be something to behold. However, I will attempt to keep living in this dream solar system -- and writing political and theological science-fiction about it -- no matter what happens. I have no idea what the future holds -- but I wish I were starting this venture as a young genius -- instead of being the old and completely ignorant fool that I am. I'm not kidding. This is reality -- and it's not pretty. Here's another cool-looking resource! http://www.amazon.com/Development-Outer-Space-Sovereignty-International/dp/0313378231/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1330982680&sr=1-1-catcorr#reader_0313378231
There is a new Vatican Archive Exhibition! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAao-fNIXDc This sort of thing brings tears to my eyes! I continue to think that we should study the Roman Empire and the Roman Catholic Church -- regardless of whether we believe in God and the Church -- or not. http://www.luxinarcana.org/en I keep thinking that I might have some sort of a Roman Empire and/or Roman Catholic Church reincarnational history -- and I keep thinking that someone knows what it might be -- but they're not talking to me. Not that I know of. An Ancient Egyptian Deity told me that I should do an FOIA inquiry -- but I never did. Ignorance is bliss. But then, why am I not happy? One more thing. I hear there is a power struggle occurring in the Vatican. My guess is that there has been a perpetual power struggle right from the beginning. Perhaps this is a healthy thing -- if it is done properly -- taking the high-road. Competition Improves the Curia! I still sometimes think about the best aspects of the City States and the Moon -- combined in one location -- with a completely seamless integration. Is there such a thing as a 'Representative Theocracy'? Should there be? What if I'm the Anti-Christ? I still think the Anti-Christ has been ruling Earth for thousands of years -- and that the one who replaces them will be extremely ethical, low-key, and boring. A properly established Solar System would probably be very low-maintenance. The top jobs should probably not be glamour jobs and elite hob-nobbing jobs. They should probably be the jobs nobody wants. Do you see my point? Unfortunately, I'm afraid that no matter what we do -- the corrupt will continue to rule the stupid -- and the best of intentions will continue to pave the road to hell. I'm already considering how to deal with a badly infiltrated and subverted United States of the Solar System -- in the middle of a Solar System Civil War -- with the Dracs circling the Solar System -- ready to impose a really harsh and nasty Dracocracy -- with absolutely no rights or freedom. Sinners in the Hands of an Angry Drac! Imagine pictures of Lord Draco posted everywhere. In conclusion -- I Come in Peace to the Alien Nations of the Universe. Wait a Minute. No I Don't! Put that Death-Ray-Gun down! I'm just kidding! Or am I?
I've always considered Alex Collier's presentations to be part fact and part fiction -- which is fine with me. I pick and choose with everyone I listen to. Hell, my stuff is part fact and part fiction -- and I often don't know which is which -- which is why I constantly add disclaimers and warnings. Trying to figure things out shouldn't be a crime -- but saying you know, when you don't know, should be a crime. Anyway, the part of the linked interview http://exotica-radio.com/articles/2012/3/3/alex-collier-the-return-of-the-demi-gods.html#entry15281741 which made my hair stand on-end was where Alex seemed to say that the Book of Revelation horrors would have to be played-out. This scared the hell out of me. I have been speculating that the Human Race has been punished by the Galactic Powers That Be for thousands of years -- and that we might be on the brink of a final-judgment and final-solution executive-extermination. Alex comes from a Roman Catholic background -- and I continue to think that high-ranking Catholics know more about what's really going on, than 99.99% of the human population. This doesn't mean that I like them, or believe their public statements. I just think they know a helluva lot of forbidden facts. I suspect that Alex might have some limited access to some of these forbidden facts -- and not from the Andomedans -- although I don't doubt that Alex has had other than human contacts. The more I reflect on all of this, the more disoriented and frightened I become. I think we're in a helluva lot of trouble, and that all of the possible solutions are highly problematic. I see a very messy future -- if we even have a future. Sorry for the doom and gloom -- but I think it's important to understand how difficult and precarious our situation really is. You can't begin to solve the problems, if you don't understand the problems. Once again, I am a mixture of Incurable Optimism and Unyielding Despair. I will continue to listen to Alex. He's probably my favorite esoteric speaker. He really makes me think. One more thing. A mysterious individual told me about demi-gods one night as we drove down a dark and isolated road. I think they might've been a demi-god of some sort. It was a bit creepy. But really, I'm getting used to 'creepy'. That's probably a bad thing.
One more time, I am not dogmatic about anything I post. I am begging for people to study this thread -- but I am not a 'my way or the highway' kind of guy. This thread is mostly to help me understand a lot of things -- but I would really appreciate some company and advice. Misery Loves Company -- and the Company Loves Misery. Speaking of which -- now I'm going to listen to more love and joy from Sherri Shriner!! http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/
Asking questions and posing hypotheticals are my modus operandi, and I suspect they always will be. Even if I were somehow involved in solar system governance, I would continue with my internet posting style, even though it seems to irritate just about everyone. Perhaps that's a good thing. I know I need to get a lot more sophisticated and refined with all of this -- but I'm sort of a burned-out basket-case these days -- and it's difficult to do what I know I need to do. My plan is to keep reviewing my threads, in the context of everything on the internet, and just keep refining and expanding the original hypothesis. I wish I had a Cray and a team of researchers to assist my modeling. I actually like what I've been doing -- even as a potential administrative modality -- wherein a desired direction is hinted-at -- but never ordered or micromanaged. I really like Political and Theological Science-Fiction. I just wish that I had this down to a science -- but hope springs eternal. I'm trying to walk a road less traveled -- which seems to involve some sort of crazy-making! I tend to listen to this type of thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9vEJycKnXA I guess I'm both a friend and enemy of the City States and the Secret Government. I'm trying to be very open-minded and very discerning. I tend to end-up being somewhat non-committal and non-vocal in all of this -- mostly because it's hard to pin a lot of the empire-stuff down -- and because a lot of the subject matter is so frightening and monumental. The factions, agendas, and insanity are probably endless. I think I'd mostly like to lurk -- lifetime after lifetime. One more thing. To you Megalomaniacs Anonymous who feel the need to Control Jerusalem, Rebuild the Temple, and Rule the World from Jerusalem -- Consider NOT destroying Jerusalem and the Dome of the Rock. At least consider an Underground Base and Temple -- Underneath the Dome of the Rock. I have no feelings one way or the other. I don't see the importance of a particular location. It would be possible to Rule From Pluto -- With a Bunch of Plutocrats!
Check out this index for the 'Annals of Air and Space Law'!!! http://www.mcgill.ca/files/iasl/Annals_topics_index.pdf Notice especially the '1967 Outer Space Treaty'. This is the sort of thing I need to dig into. I also need to do it without expecting conversation with anyone. I need to master Mental-Masturbation! I also need to become a Master-Debater! I need to stop begging for approval -- and simply live within Solar System Governance -- with my mind constantly considering every conceivable possibility and eventuality connected with a New Solar System in a Brave New Universe. But I will need to function in the 'Real World' with a small portion of my consciousness. A very small portion. I'm sold on responsibility, but I continue to be irresponsible. I'm trying to change that. Also, check out www.space-settlement-institute.org I really need to focus on Constitutional Law, Space Law -- and perhaps Canon Law. What if a version of Canon Law existed which included U.S. Constitutional Law, Space Law, and the Teachings of Jesus?? Do you sort of see what I'm getting at? This thing is so much larger than what I am capable of properly dealing with. I still think that reading 'The Federalist Papers', the 1928 'Book of Common Prayer', and 'The Desire of Ages' over and over again -- while listening to the Bach B-Minor Mass -- is an excellent place to start. Imagine a Royal Model Version of Washington D.C. in the City of London. Once this thing gets properly refined -- I think it might be uber-cool -- but the likelihood of launch-pad destruction is quite high. I think this concept might take the rest of the 21st century to properly implement -- if we can survive that long. I suspect that the Galactic PTB probably consider this to be a 'Hail Mary Play' for the Human Race. The obstacles would be enormous. The power struggles and factional fighting would be something to behold. However, I will attempt to keep living in this dream solar system -- and writing political and theological science-fiction about it -- no matter what happens. I have no idea what the future holds -- but I wish I were starting this venture as a young genius -- instead of being the old and completely ignorant fool that I am. I'm not kidding. This is reality -- and it's not pretty. Here's another cool-looking resource! http://www.amazon.com/Development-Outer-Space-Sovereignty-International/dp/0313378231/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1330982680&sr=1-1-catcorr#reader_0313378231
There is a new Vatican Archive Exhibition! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAao-fNIXDc This sort of thing brings tears to my eyes! I continue to think that we should study the Roman Empire and the Roman Catholic Church -- regardless of whether we believe in God and the Church -- or not. http://www.luxinarcana.org/en I keep thinking that I might have some sort of a Roman Empire and/or Roman Catholic Church reincarnational history -- and I keep thinking that someone knows what it might be -- but they're not talking to me. Not that I know of. An Ancient Egyptian Deity told me that I should do an FOIA inquiry -- but I never did. Ignorance is bliss. But then, why am I not happy? One more thing. I hear there is a power struggle occurring in the Vatican. My guess is that there has been a perpetual power struggle right from the beginning. Perhaps this is a healthy thing -- if it is done properly -- taking the high-road. Competition Improves the Curia! I still sometimes think about the best aspects of the City States and the Moon -- combined in one location -- with a completely seamless integration. Is there such a thing as a 'Representative Theocracy'? Should there be? What if I'm the Anti-Christ? I still think the Anti-Christ has been ruling Earth for thousands of years -- and that the one who replaces them will be extremely ethical, low-key, and boring. A properly established Solar System would probably be very low-maintenance. The top jobs should probably not be glamour jobs and elite hob-nobbing jobs. They should probably be the jobs nobody wants. Do you see my point? Unfortunately, I'm afraid that no matter what we do -- the corrupt will continue to rule the stupid -- and the best of intentions will continue to pave the road to hell. I'm already considering how to deal with a badly infiltrated and subverted United States of the Solar System -- in the middle of a Solar System Civil War -- with the Dracs circling the Solar System -- ready to impose a really harsh and nasty Dracocracy -- with absolutely no rights or freedom. Sinners in the Hands of an Angry Drac! Imagine pictures of Lord Draco posted everywhere. In conclusion -- I Come in Peace to the Alien Nations of the Universe. Wait a Minute. No I Don't! Put that Death-Ray-Gun down! I'm just kidding! Or am I?
I've always considered Alex Collier's presentations to be part fact and part fiction -- which is fine with me. I pick and choose with everyone I listen to. Hell, my stuff is part fact and part fiction -- and I often don't know which is which -- which is why I constantly add disclaimers and warnings. Trying to figure things out shouldn't be a crime -- but saying you know, when you don't know, should be a crime. Anyway, the part of the linked interview http://exotica-radio.com/articles/2012/3/3/alex-collier-the-return-of-the-demi-gods.html#entry15281741 which made my hair stand on-end was where Alex seemed to say that the Book of Revelation horrors would have to be played-out. This scared the hell out of me. I have been speculating that the Human Race has been punished by the Galactic Powers That Be for thousands of years -- and that we might be on the brink of a final-judgment and final-solution executive-extermination. Alex comes from a Roman Catholic background -- and I continue to think that high-ranking Catholics know more about what's really going on, than 99.99% of the human population. This doesn't mean that I like them, or believe their public statements. I just think they know a helluva lot of forbidden facts. I suspect that Alex might have some limited access to some of these forbidden facts -- and not from the Andomedans -- although I don't doubt that Alex has had other than human contacts. The more I reflect on all of this, the more disoriented and frightened I become. I think we're in a helluva lot of trouble, and that all of the possible solutions are highly problematic. I see a very messy future -- if we even have a future. Sorry for the doom and gloom -- but I think it's important to understand how difficult and precarious our situation really is. You can't begin to solve the problems, if you don't understand the problems. Once again, I am a mixture of Incurable Optimism and Unyielding Despair. I will continue to listen to Alex. He's probably my favorite esoteric speaker. He really makes me think. One more thing. A mysterious individual told me about demi-gods one night as we drove down a dark and isolated road. I think they might've been a demi-god of some sort. It was a bit creepy. But really, I'm getting used to 'creepy'. That's probably a bad thing.
One more time, I am not dogmatic about anything I post. I am begging for people to study this thread -- but I am not a 'my way or the highway' kind of guy. This thread is mostly to help me understand a lot of things -- but I would really appreciate some company and advice. Misery Loves Company -- and the Company Loves Misery. Speaking of which -- now I'm going to listen to more love and joy from Sherri Shriner!! http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/
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orthodoxymoron wrote:Mercuriel wrote:orthodoxymoron wrote:Are Ashtar Command and Gizeh Intelligence the same thing - or are they two factions of essentially the same group. Are they Annunaki, Masonic, Nazi, and Luciferian ?...
...I just want the problems to go away - and for everyone to be happy. Is that too much to ask?
No Ashtar Command and the Gizeh Intelligence are not the same thing but as You have said - They are two factions of essentially the same Group.
As I understand It - They are both Renegade Corps and are made up of Lyrans, Pleiadians, Sirians and such that do not fit into the Reptilian or Draconian Ranks...
The Kasim (Remnant Annunaki / S.a.A.M.i.) have Their own Command for the Earth Mission of which Marduk is the Titular Head and shares power with a Council of Twelve. The Useaneshda (Incoming Annunaki / S.a.A.M.i.) are under S.a.A.M.e. Governance with Nannar as the Titular Head now taking over from Anu (Finally)...
Yep - Theres alot of 'em and I'm only touching the surface here.
The above said - The Ashtar Command was not always compromised as It is now but was taken over in a Mutiny led by the Renegades. When that Mutiny occurred I am not sure but it was a long time ago to be sure. Aeons likely...
It will go back to Its rightful owner have no doubt of that. Just another Job in a long list of Jobs to do here before the Shift - LOL...
Sirius A = Ashtar Command = Masonic? Sirius B = Gizeh Intelligence = Nazi? Did Gizeh Intelligence steal fire (advanced technology and genetic hybridization) from the Ashtar Command (the gods)? Or was it the other way around? Did Ashtar Command and Gizeh Intelligence engage in competing human/reptile hybridization programs - creating competing super-soldiers? Are we dealing with a mostly intra solar system civil war (especially if we include Nibiru in this solar system)? Are humans, reptilians, and greys - all products of a genetic hybridization program? Why can't the good guys and gals be in charge of all of the factions? Why does the madness have to continue? Shouldn't all factions unite to create a perfected solar system, inhabited by perfected beings - human and otherwise? Or should this solar system only contain humans (as we know humans to be)? Should human/reptile hybrids be considered human? Is hybridization ethically acceptable - or is it an abomination which defaces God's creation? I'm getting really tired of spending so much time going nowhere. In fact - I seem to be slipping backwards, and going downhill. Even though it might produce a lot of negative karma - I'm seriously thinking about focusing on making money. It seems that in this world - money talks, and bs walks. I'm sick of kicking against the pricks - including Dick.
This part of the above comment haunts me - "The above said - The Ashtar Command was not always compromised as It is now but was taken over in a Mutiny led by the Renegades. When that Mutiny occurred I am not sure but it was a long time ago to be sure. Aeons likely...It will go back to Its rightful owner have no doubt of that." Some have suggested that Earth is not our planet. The story of Promethius involves stealing fire from the gods. 'Raiders of the Lost Ark' hints at the same sort of thing. Why can't what's really going on be spelled out in plain English - with no mind games or double talk? My bias is that the solar system should simply be run properly - regardless of past iniquities - and then deal with those who insist on being irresponsible - in a kind yet firm manner. Things are rather chaotic, at the moment, and there is no central, reasonable ethical standard and method of governance. Set things up properly - and then clamp down on the bad guys and gals. A lot of good people seem to be in the crosshairs these days. A lot of crooks are being promoted to the top jobs in the world. Why?
I'm reading and thinking about underground bases. The money, blood, sweat, and tears required to build a worldwide system of underground bases, interconnecting tunnels, and magneto-leviton trains - staggers the imagination! Then, if one considers advanced technology programs, antigravity craft, genetic-hybridization, and who knows what - it's almost too much to comprehend. Then, if one expands this program to include the entire solar system - it's enough to drive someone completely insane. Did tax-money, drug-money, tithe-money, blood-money, insider-trading money, etc. pay for this hypothetical madness? Is this all a part of a Secret Government, United Nations, Vatican, City of London, Washington DC, Alphabet Agency, Royal Family, Secret Society cabal - which is a part of a Sirius/Tibetan/Aryan/Nazi/Masonic/Babylonian/Medo-Persian/Egyptian/Grecian/Roman, Holy Roman Empire, Kingdom of God, New World Order Theocracy - ruled by the Queen of Heaven with a titanium fist? Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! The Greys are Coming to Take Me Away! Hey! Hey!
Greetings and Salutations to the Beings of the Universe!
Please consider the following emotional expression of attempted understanding and intent. I didn't intend this as a general communication...but it sort of evolved into an open letter. I resisted rewriting it...to keep it informal and genuine. I just want to see a proper governmental system for the Solar System in place which maximizes Responsible Freedom. I keep thinking that we are a galactic administrative problem...and that most of you neither love us nor hate us. You probably want us to evolve! I also keep thinking that we are rebels without a clue...who legitimately rebelled against something (enslavement and theocracy perhaps?)...but ended up in worse trouble than if we had just gone with the program...so to speak. Now...we seem to be on the verge of blowing ourselves up, becoming enslaved by malevolent ET's, and being ruled by a really nasty theocracy. Or...on the verge of a top down silent and bloodless revolution...whereby we could finally achieve a united and free world at peace...for the first time in our history. I'm trying to visualize more underground living and electric everything...and interplanetary tourism and industry using advanced spacecraft. I'd like to see an end to extreme wealth and poverty via Responsible Free Enterprise. I don't have a problem with interacting with other benevolent beings...no matter what they look like...or what their history is...as long as they are genuinely benevolent. It would obviously take time for everyone to get used to each other. Project Avalon may be one of the first steps toward a Solar System United Nations...or whatever everyone wants to call it. I suspect that beings from throughout the Solar System...view, and even participate, on Avalon. We discuss various and sundry subjects presently...but someday we may vote...as members of a Solar System General Assembly. I have been repeatedly moved to tears by two related Stargate SG-1 episodes which touch on a Galactic United Nations:
1. http://www.fancast.com/tv/Stargate-SG-1/91998/1063988439/The-Torment-of-Tantalus/videos 2. http://www.hulu.com/watch/68254/stargate-sg-1-the-fifth-race
Here is a link which I found interesting with information from John Rhodes: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sumer_anunnaki/reptiles/reptiles38.htm It caused me to speculate. What if Reptilians evolved...but not Humans? What if the entire universe was Reptilian? What if there were no Humans anywhere? What if the entire universe was a Reptilian Universal Church Theocracy? What if Humans were created as a slave race? ('Let us make man in our image') What if Lucifer (Ptah?) was the Reptilian in charge of the genetic engineering project which resulted in the creation of Human Beings? What if Humans were mistreated as slaves? What if a group of Reptilians, led by Lucifer, conspired with Humans, to kill God the Father (Ra?)...and take over 'Heaven'? What if this was the Luciferian Rebellion which led to War in Heaven...and the death of God the Father (Ra?)? What if the Reptilians loyal to God (Ra?) fought against the Luciferian Reptilians and Human Beings...driving them out of the Garden of Eden (Heaven?) What if Battlestar Moon was used to transport the Luciferian Reptilians and Humans to Aldebaran, Sirius, and Earth...while being violently pursued by Nibiru? What if Interdimensional Reptilians aka The Spirit of God aka Amen battle with Luciferian Interdimensional Reptilians and the Divinity Within Humanity aka The Holy Spirit...to regain control of the Renegade Human Race? What if the New World Order is the Kingdom of Ra? What if the Luciferian Reptilians and a select group of Humans run Earth from underground bases on Earth and the Moon? Could this be Gizeh Intelligence? Could Reptilians and Humans loyal to Ra be Zionists? Could Reptilians and Humans loyal to Lucifer be Teutonic Zionists? Could a pacifist union of both factions be Followers of Jesus? Could Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom be the solution to this ancient mess? How much trouble am I in now? Probably quite a bit. But once again...this is just speculation...with no inside information whatsoever. I don't think that I have seen Lucifer...but one never knows! This hypothetical being could walk down a crowded city street...and no one would notice anything out of the ordinary. This would be a 3D hybrid with lots of 4D, 5D, 6D, 7D connections...I think. I'm thinking of Anna in 'V'. There may be remarkable similarities. Who knows?! PLEASE watch this video where Battlestar Galactica Meets the United Nations. http://video.google.ca/videoplay?doc...05988835138050 This is the sort of thing which should occur each and every day at the United Nations. I really was impressed with this special program. The first part of the linked video clip...which contains a segment from BSG (beginning @ 07:00)...states that THE CYLONS (REPTILIANS?) WERE A HUMAN INVENTION THAT EVOLVED, AND DESTROYED THEIR CREATORS...AND THAT THE LAST SURVIVING HUMANS ESCAPED ON BATTLESTAR GALACTICA...IN SEARCH OF A NEW HOME ON EARTH. Is this representative of OUR history...and why we are in such a big mess???
I'm trying to think through a constitutionally based Solar System...where Reptilians, Humans, and Greys peacefully engage in commerce, athletics, education, tourism, the arts, entertainment, etc. There would be no God, no Satan...and nobody would have to bow down and worship anyone. No one would be a master...and no one would be a slave. Everyone would be in charge. I keep referring to the U.S. Constitution because of it being in use for over 200 years, and being currently in use. There could be others...perhaps superior...but I'm trying not to reinvent the wheel. It does not imply nationalism or protectionism. It does imply We the People(We the Beings?) being in charge...in an organized decentralism. If there are Deep Underground Military Bases throughout the Solar System inhabited by various factions of Humans, Greys, and Reptilians...an all out war would be utterly devastating. A voluntary cooperation under a constitution would make so much more sense. The gods could retire...which is what I want. I don't want Lucifer(or equivalent) to be hurt or killed...I just want the reign of terror to end. I'm suspecting that well intentioned beings of all races...for billions of years...have tried to be God...and failed miserably. Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely...no matter how intelligent and well-intentioned you are. It turns a Good God into an Evil Satan...and it probably doesn't take very long.
If the U.S. Constitution was the central authority of the Solar System...instead of any deity or demon...no one would be worshipped, humiliated, exalted, enslaved, etc. If the God or Godess of This World (and Solar System?) will not relinquish power to anyone else ('if I can't have them...nobody can!')...might a constitutional ultimate authority allow this being to retire with grace? I'd really rather skip the Battle of Armageddon. Does Revelation 12 describe Lucifer or Satan? The ultimate leader of the serpent race's collective or 'hive mind' is the "great red dragon", the "old serpent", "the Devil" or "Satan". Lucifer was one of the three original archangels (along with Michael and Gabriel) who each had charge over one-third of the 'angels'. Mind you...I'm hypothesizing a very dark universe...where this crazy world is as good as it gets. This is a terrifying thought to me...but what if this is reality? The horror! Could the following experience describe the being who Lucifer rebelled against? I found it in chapter 19 of the 'Dulce Book' http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/dulce_book.htm on the watcherfiles.com website. I don't know if this is credible...but it really made me think. Does the following description refer to Lucifer...or to Satan? I'm leaning toward Satan aka God Amen...but there might be some similarities with Lucifer...who would have to have some communication with Satan...on an ongoing basis.
"One of the 'targets' to which Mr. Brown's military RV trainer sent him was the Grey aliens' collective mind, and more specifically he was instructed to search out the ultimate command or control center of the collective. Shortly after this particular experiment began [one of many], Brown found himself in an area where several Greys were working, although he did not know exactly where this was. He 'followed' the collective mind or thought-flow and found it to be absolutely massive, giving him the feeling of something unbounded, and almost universal in nature. However, he did detect a center, a definite 'heartbeat' of this massive collective matrix, into which and out from which a steady stream of information was flowing. He noticed, at one point, an unusual 'subspace' being that seemed to be directing the activities of the Greys he was observing, and discovered that the bodies of the Greys themselves were incarnated by such 'subspace' beings which apparently entered the Greys' embryonic bodies and used them as vessels to manipulate physical reality.
Brown was then instructed to locate other of these beings who apparently controlled the Grey collective from a subspace or astral level, and found himself in an area where several of these subspace or paraphysical entities were located. As he continued towards this 'center' the number of subspace or non-corporeal beings increased until he came to a place of much activity, something like a grand central station type of area, where these beings were very active in various pursuits. He did not know exactly where this was, but noticed that the closer he came to the control 'center' the more he sensed an increasing rigid atmosphere of absolute military-like control. He came to what he sensed was the central governing center of the subspace beings' activity, and in the center of this there was another area where a "council of 10" very high-level subspace or paraphysical entities congregated. These were apparently the governing principalities who were engaged in running the whole operation. The security here was absolutely incredible.
Then he perceived the SUPREME LEADER of this council of 10 paraphysical entities... and at about this point Courtney Brown was jerked back into his body, so to speak. He sensed that this leader had detected the presence of his own subspace, astral or magnetic body which he had projected, and had followed this RV 'intruder' back to his physical source. Brown and his trainer felt an oppressive, dark 'cloud' enter the room and it stayed there for about half a minute scrutinizing the scene. It left, apparently seeing the two RV'ers as "small frys" who were not worth wasting its time on.
Before Brown's expulsion from the command center however, he was able to perceive for a brief moment what this being was really like. He or it was an extremely powerful being, but one with a twisted personality that was full of darkness. Apparently this being had come into conflict with another Force which it saw as its enemy. Brown sensed within this being a severe self-esteem problem, in spite of its incredible power, and because of this it had a consuming desire to be worshipped by others. Brown was confused when he sensed that these subspace beings, and in turn the Reptilians/Greys, were actually COMMANDED by this leader to engage in self-indulgent and destructive activities. This being apparently wanted his servants to use self-indulgent rewards or fear of punishment to maintain the absolute hierarchical command structure within its empire -- as well as through the rest of the subspace hierarchy, and in turn throughout the Reptilian Grey's collective 'hive' society that they completely infested.
Brown also got the impression that it was FEAR and PRIDE -- its perceived NEED to be worshipped -- that kept this being from negotiating with its ancient enemy, and that this being was utterly desperate to maintain its very survival or existence [strange for a seemingly immortal subspace being] and chose to resort to rebellion and terrorism in a desperate attempt to take control of the situation. Brown recieved a strong impression that this being was the ultimate universal terrorist!!! (Did ET Phone Rome and Call 9/11?) Apparently because of its all-consuming ego this being would NEVER humble itself before its 'enemy', and the same might be said for most of the upper echelon of the hierarchy who depended on the praise of their fellow collaborators to maintain their illusion of self-importance.
These beings, one might say, had long ago and of their own free-agency 'imploded' in upon themselves -- becoming 'spiritual black holes' with all-consuming appetites, absolute astral vampirial-like parasites, having extinguished all 'light' within themselves and therefore being unable to be brought back "into the light". Incapable of giving out 'light', they have become totally reprobate, devouring any and all life and innocence around them that they can possibly consume. The leader of this subspace 'collective' had long ago drawn these other dark beings into itself, like a large black star devouring other smaller ones around it. This irreversible state MIGHT not apply entirely to ALL of these "subspace" beings, as we will see later on."
I hereby invite all beings throughout the universe to support the spirit...if not the letter...of the second post of this thread regarding Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom: http://www.themistsofavalon.net/universal-lounge-f8/namaste-constitutional-responsible-freedom-solar-system-t918.htm Obviously...the details will have to be worked out by those who are much more competent than myself. I don't know the full story...but the more I research...the more enthusiastic I become regarding this concept. But this will require universal support...and will undoubtedly involve great sacrifice and hardship. I think we are all in huge trouble...throughout the universe...not just on Earth. I also think that all secrecy needs to be removed presently...and that Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom must be pursued with all deliberate speed. The gloves need to be removed...so to speak.
"Most people do not really want freedom, because freedom involves responsibility, and most people are frightened of responsibility." -- Sigmund Freud
The Andromedan Perspective Regarding the Future of Humanity is "Responsible Freedom of Self Determination...Becoming Truly Self Confident and Free...to Unconditionally be Responsible for Oneself...Without Being Coerced to Accept Some Higher Authority." -- related by Alex Collier
"We the People of Earth have before us the opportunity to forge for ourselves, and for future generations...a True World Order. A world where Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom...not the Old World Disorder Demonic Theocracy...governs the conduct of nations. When we are successful...and we will be...we have a real chance at this True World Order...an order in which a credible United Nations can use Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom to fulfill the promise and vision of All Races." -- my rewrite of part of a New World Order speech by George H. W. Bush
"Like it or not, eveything is changing. The result will be the most wonderful experience in the history of man...or the most horrible enslavement that you can imagine. Be active, or abdicate...the future is in your hands." -- William Cooper
This is a thread devoted to experimenting with the idea of applying the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights (except for the first two paragraphs of Article 6...and the 16th Amendment) to the entire Solar System. Article 6 has been misused to establish treaties which supercede the Constitution. There is a question regarding the validity of the 16th Amendment. My preference is that the Federal Reserve should be abolished...and a non-private central bank should issue a silver-based currency. The United States of the Solar System does NOT imply rule by the United States of America...especially in its presently infiltrated and subverted sad state. Constructive Competition...Positive Response Ability...and Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom are the underlying principles and concepts. A focus on the documents is what is desired. We will attempt to use the Constitution and Bill of Rights...mostly as is...with very minimal changes in wording (to apply to the Solar System and include both males and females) and with some very minimal streamlining.
Is there merit to the idea of replacing the U.N. Charter with the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights...with all of the regions of Earth...and all of the regions of the planets and moons of the Solar System...treated as States? Various Alien Nations could participate with Ambassadors...but they could not dictate. A President would simply be a spokesperson or PR person for the decisions of the Senatorial and Congressional General Assemblies. Most of the communications and deliberations would be electronic...with actual meetings at U.N. Headquarters being mostly symbolic and ceremonial. Could this arrangement be considered to be the preferred alternative to a theocracy (a Universal Church)? Would this arrangement constitute a desirable non-theocratic union of politics and religion? Isn't religion really politics...and politics really religion? Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom would be the absolute standard and modus operandi of a New Universal Order.
Have I completely lost my mind...or is this an ultra-simple solution to the problems which plague this Solar System (and possibly the universe)? I am basing all of this on an unproven assumption that there is life throughout the Solar System...including, but not limited to, Human, Grey, and Reptilian life...and that the Grey and Reptilian life is not simply a non-physical demonic phenomenon. Obviously...there would have to be safeguards which would prevent a dictatorial take-over. All groups would need to be protected from themselves (competing internal factions) and the other groups. Mutually beneficial interplanetary and interracial interaction would be the goal.
I initially included alien races in the Constitution of the United States of the Solar System...but I changed the wording back to include only Human Beings. This is not anti-alien. It is intended as a safeguard. We the People of the Solar System need to get our house in order internally...and then interact with all Alien Nations...in a very open yet cautious manner. I don't know how this should appropriately occur. I don't know the details of the alien presence in the Solar System. I'm open to reasonable solutions. Perhaps Alien Nations could have non-voting membership status...where their views would be made known in an official capacity...and where they would address the Congressional and Senatorial General Assemblies. Perhaps this could be preparatory to full voting status. I don't know. I'm just very wary of Trojan Horse scenarios. Again...I do not desire rulership over Alien Nations. Nor do I desire their humiliation, degradation, extermination, or enslavement.
The preamble is a condensed version of the preamble to the Charter for the United Nations. I did remove the reference to treaties and other sources of international law. I further included a condensed and modified version of the 'Universal Declaration of Human Rights' in the preamble...with wording in harmony with the United States of the Solar System. Nothing should supercede the founding documents.
'The Declaration of Human Sovereignty' from www.humansovereignty.org is included, with minimal modifications. I basically agree with it...and do not wish to reinvent the wheel. I did, however, eliminate the homeworld references, and I eliminated the demand to destroy ET bases...which might be necessary to defend the Solar System. This is the cosmic equivalent of the 'Declaration of Independence'. A big thank-you to humansovereignty.org. They might, or might not, approve of this thread. I don't know. Perhaps I won't have to wait long to find out!
Our politicians need to go through an educational process...fit for a king. Each politician should probably have the equivalent of two doctorates...in multidisciplinary and governmental studies. Politicians should have to take batteries of tests to prove that they are fit to be the equivalent of kings (for limited periods of time...to avoid corruption and insanity). Too much power for too long...is a recipe for disaster. Power corrupts...and absolute power corrupts absolutely. I don't want tyranny and theocracy...but I also don't want a bunch of corrupt and stupid nitwits...running amok in a make believe democracy...owned by the banks and media moguls...who take orders from off-world entities. There should be at least 10,000 people...worldwide...who know everything about everything...and could assume supreme leadership in a very competent manner...without prior notice. One would have to competitively join this group...in order to run for high office. I just want this world to be cleaned-up and run properly. We probably need the City-States and the United Nations...but not in their current state. They need to be completely reformed and purified...if this is even possible. If it's not possible...then we need to start from scratch.
The concept is simple...but undoubtedly the details and implementation would be very, very complex. I'm guessing that powerful forces outside of this Solar System would have to agree to allow this to occur. I'm also sensing that some of the agreement...if it were granted...would be very grudging...with the view that it would never work...and that the Pleiades, Sirius, Draco, Orion (and others?) would ultimately theocratically rule Earth eventually anyway. Who knows...this could be a new development in a very dictatorial, rigid, and violent universe. It could be Morning in the Universe...or the Solar System...at least. Lucifer...what do you think? How will this play in the Pleiades, Sirius, Draco, and Orion? You can make this happen. We are all actors on a stage...and the universe is watching. Namaste to everyone...including you Lucifer.
I don't hate anyone...Reptilian or Human. I think that 99% are victims...and the remaining 1% are deluded or insane (and in a sense...victims as well...even though they are in charge...and may be very harsh and cruel). I think everyone is in trouble...from the top to the bottom. This universe may need a new program and a reboot. The Reptilians...who many fear (including me)...may turn out to be quite friendly...if and when there is a paradigm shift and a leadership change. Their external appearance should not be viewed predjudicially. I don't know the true nature of the Reptilians. I've never seen one (that I know of)...and I'm still not absolutely sure that they exist (although the testimonial evidence is overwhelming). This open letter should not be viewed as Human vs Reptilian. In an all-out Human vs Reptilian war...I have a sneaking suspicion that humanity might cease to exist. Who knows...Benevolent Reptilians may be keeping Human Beings from becoming extinct.
If the universal community cannot accept the linked proposal http://www.themistsofavalon.net/universal-lounge-f8/namaste-constitutional-responsible-freedom-solar-system-t918.htm as a universal modus operandi...I would only request that an exception be made for this Solar System. Give us a chance to test the concept...under quarantine...if deemed necessary. I understand that unrestrained and irresponsible freedom is highly dangerous and contageous. The qualifiers outlined in the first post of this thread should be sufficient to maintain legitimate and reasonable law and order.
In a sense...a Government is a Church...and a Church is a Government. They are two sides of the same coin. The question is 'What is the nature of the Church and the Government?' A "Constitutional Theocracy is a form of government in which within the context of a modern democracy a particular religion is granted a central role in the legal and political system. In contrast to a pure theocracy, power resides in political figures operating within the bounds of a constitution, rather than religious leadership. A form of government (also referred to as a system of government or a political system) is a system composed of various people, institutions and their relations in regard to the governance of a state. ... Theocracy is a form of government in which a religion and the government are intertwined..." http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Constitutional-theocracy Could the United States of America be under a Constitutional Theocracy presently? Could the United States of America have always been under such a Constitutional Theocracy? See Article 6 of the U.S. Constitution. Was the 1954 Greada treaty simply an extension of this hypothetical Constitutional Theocracy? http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/future.htm Is the U.N. Charter superceding the U.S. Constitution a further expansion of a Constitutional Theocracy? To stop preaching...and go to meddling...How would the Roman Catholic Church function if it were based upon Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom...and was in complete harmony with the US Constitution, Bill of Rights, and the Teachings of Jesus? Would a Pope be elected by the general membership every four years? Would the Teachings of Jesus, the US Constitution, Bill of Rights, and the Will of the People...supercede Canon Law, the Curia, the Pope, the Black Pope (and whoever the Black Pope takes orders from)? Would this create chaos...or would it minimize evil and corruption? For Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom to work...the Roman Catholic Church would have to go along with it...and looking at history...this would be nearly impossible. The RCC is the biggest 'We Never Change Church' imaginable. The Sirius Powers That Be would have to order it done...or it would be a non-starter. For Sirius (and Alpha Draconis?) to sign-off on this...We the People of Earth would have to exhibit a significant level of Knowledge and Responsibility. There is presently a Forbidden Knowledge Explosion...and the BIG question is 'Will We the People of Earth Respond Responsibly?' How about a non-penetential and non-sacrificial Ecumenical Namaste Mass based upon the Latin Mass...Celebrating the Divinity Within Humanity? Now I'm really meddling! I'm an abominable heretic...yet I prefer the glory, grandeur, reverence, and awe of the traditional service...rather than the 'Jesus is my buddy, show-up in shorts and a t-shirt, praise-song, hippie reefer-madness'.
1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94sa1Byb7fw 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP5guVydW7w&NR=1 3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxBjqrPAUg8&NR=1 4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enWiFcsBqIE
In a sense...I desire a Minimalist Humanistic Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Theocracy . This open letter is merely introductory and inquisitive...rather than being comprehensive, authoritative, or dogmatic. I simply desire that everything work out well for everyone...everywhere and everywhen.
Thanks and Gratitude in Advance to the Beings of the Universe.
I am unrepentantly orthodoxymoron. Here I stand. Now what do I do?
OK - I just purchased a bunch of books and DVD's - mostly science fiction. I intend to keep this thread clearly in mind as I read and view these materials. You see - the basic concepts and documents in this thread may be quite boring - especially if you are looking for the latest freak-show - but when one applies these concepts and documents to both sci-fi and real-world situations - things become very, very interesting. I predict that this thread will be the way of the future - but I don't think that I will be a part of it - not in this incarnation, at least. But in a sense - I don't need to be a part of it - because I see the future very clearly in my mind's eye. When I spoke with Terence McKenna regarding the imagination, he said "if you dream it - you've already done it." I agree. It's already a done-deal. A Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Solar System aka The United States of the Solar System - based upon Responsibility and the U.S. Constitution - will rise from the ashes of The New World Order aka The Old World Disorder Demonic Theocracy - like the Flight of the Phoenix.
Here are some video links which should probably be viewed or listened to repeatedly:
1. Bill Cooper: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2414574348304077734#docid=-7367255331569182231
2. Commander X: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8420071240361070544#
3. Alex Collier (1994): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8316692185126189734#
Read between the lines, and consider these videos in the light of that which I have discussed on this, and other threads. I don't agree with everything in the videos (and some of the material is boring, or of low production quality) - but I am trying to create a foundation consisting of a conceptual core of truth - so as to facilitate bigger and better things for humanity - without making disastrous detours.
I think that church history is a total mess and a complete disaster - but where do we go from here? What would you say and do if it were up to you to reform the church? It's a very, very sensitive and tricky enterprise - to start meddling with how people pray. All I know - is that I am trying to create an imaginary ecumenical religion for myself. It's not going real well - but I'm trying. Here are my 9.5 Theses:
1. Replace Canon Law with the Teachings of Jesus.
2. Institute a Modified Latin Mass (with no communion - emphasizing the remembrance of Christ and His Teachings - rather than His Sacrifice) - offering Masses seven days a week - with no preference regarding the day or days of attendance.
3. Base All Homilies, Theology, and Ritual Upon the Teachings of Jesus.
4. Eliminate Penance and Confession (replacing both with psychological and spiritual counselling).
5. Allow Women to be Priests and Popes.
6. Allow Priests to Marry and Popes to Marry (and eliminate all blasphemous titles).
7. Eliminate All Crucifixes (The bloody, dying, and mostly naked Jesus should not be paraded and displayed).
8. Be Completely Honest Regarding the History of the Church, the World, the Solar System, the Galaxy, and the Universe.
9. Institute a Program of Responsible Reproduction (lifting the ban on birth-control).
9.5. Base Civil and Church Governance on the U.S. Constitution.
ORTHODOXYMORON GUIDESTONE:
1. BASE THIS SOLAR SYSTEM UPON RESPONSIBILITY AND THE U.S. CONSTITUTION.
2. MAINTAIN AN EARTH HUMAN POPULATION OF FOUR BILLION (TWO BILLION SURFACE - TWO BILLION SUBSURFACE) AND FOUR BILLION THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE SOLAR SYSTEM (MOSTLY SUBSURFACE).
3. BASE PHYSICAL, MENTAL, AND SPIRITUAL HEALTH UPON PREVENTION.
4. MAINTAIN A PRISTINE ENVIRONMENT.
5. USE ELECTRICAL POWER FOR NEARLY EVERYTHING, AND UTILIZE MAGNETO-LEVITON TRAINS FOR MOST GLOBAL TRANSPORTATION.
Here I Stand (or perhaps I should run).
This is simply a brain-storm. This is simply something to think about. This is simply an attempt to create a Spiritual Switzerland.
World Without End.
Amen.
I'm not sure where the proper balance point is in all of this. I'm seeking a rock-solid foundation. I do not wish to build on sinking sand...but there will obviously be many false-starts and misunderstandings as I try to find my way...and my voice. I'm ashamed that I don't know more about that which I am espousing...but I'm even more ashamed that very few of us seem to give a rat's patootie about how this Solar System is run. Have our negotiators been duped over and over again...by essentially demonic entities? I wonder. The 1954 Greada Treaty (if it really exists) was a mistake...wasn't it? But I'm sure we had TOP people...who were on top of everything...and had everything under control...RIGHT? Just like we have TOP people...who have everything under control...at this very moment...RIGHT? Don't get me wrong...I am an overly accomodating and gullible person. I'm the kind of person who hates to swat a fly. I don't wish to harm anyone or anything...even demonic entities. But I don't want various aliens, spirits, whoever, or whatever...enslaving and exterminating us...or making life miserable for all of us. I think we have been lied to and manipulated for thousands (or even millions) of years by various entities and beings. We're not as smart as we think we are...when it comes to dealing with these entities and beings. Again...I wish them no harm. But perhaps my 'where there's life...there's hope' bias is what has gotten us into a lot of trouble for a long, long time. Somehow...we need to deal with this thing here and now...and not let it drag on (dragon -get it?!) for thousands and millions of years into the future. We are kept in the dark about Universal History...and regarding who we really are. Yet...we then get chided for being the 'New Kids on the Block' who need to evolve so we can join all of the superior beings throughout the Universe. I'm sick of this BS. Throughout history...right up to this very day...I am not seeing a reasonable and rational approach to Solar System Governance. I'm seeing 'Divide and Conquer'...'Keep Them Confused and Fighting With Each Other'...and 'Keep Them Ignorant and Stupid'. I'm as mad as hell. I've had enough. And I'm not going to take this anymore. Can you feel the love tonight?
The eschatological paradigms are mostly negative and violent. I envision continuity in perpetuity in Sol. I'm not moving away from this Solar System. This is my home. Sun. Fun. Stay. Play. This is my sand-box...and the playground attendants are poised to expel the bullies from our little paradise. This Solar System is the Theater of the Universe. The implications and ramifications of Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom...in the context of the Constitution of the United States of America and the Bill of Rights...in the context of the United Nations...and applied to the entire Solar System...are enormous. I stand in opposition to the corrupt Powers That Be...both Terrestrial and Extraterrestrial...and demand that the United States of the Solar System be implemented with all deliberate speed...and that a Solar System Exorcism commence immediately. In the words of Moses "Let My People Go!" I perceive that We the People of Earth are Prisoners of War...on a Prison Planet...with Grey Guards...and a Reptilian/Human Hybrid Warden...Taking Orders From a Draconian Reptilian God of This World. This is an intolerable state of affairs...and must not be allowed to stand. I hereby request that the non-corrupt Beings of the Universe assist We the People of Earth for a very brief period of time...as we know it...to implement the reforms outlined throughout this thread devoted to the United States of the Solar System.
Thanks and Gratitude in Advance.
You know - I tried something before - and then I stopped. I intended to focus on politics and business by watching Bloomberg, and reading the 'Wall Street Journal' and the 'New York Times' - as well as other sources of information. I'm going to attempt to do this again. I am very interested in what I have been researching and posting on - but it seems to be going nowhere - and I haven't wished to do anything more than posting anonymously on the internet. I still don't know who the good and bad guys and gals really are. I just think we can do a helluva lot better. Perhaps if I focus upon tending to business - I will be taken more seriously at a later date - and I will have a higher quality of life in the meantime. What I'm doing presently, just isn't working, in so many ways. I might even start reading 'Foreign Affairs' again. I just heard about several CEO's making 50-100 million dollars/year. A couple of years ago, a trader made over three billion dollars in one year. I'll bet they didn't get placed on alphabet agency lists either! So why should I continue to experience frustration and futility - and make no money whatsoever? Can someone answer me that?
I am hereby making a call for interested parties - to purchase an old decommissioned nuclear missile launch facility - and set up a United States of the Solar System - sort of like Mt. Weather - but on a smaller scale. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_liNYkZn_M It would be really cool if we could get an old Cray Supercomputer - and really keep tabs on everything of import throughout the solar system! http://news.cnet.com/2100-1017-245425.html We could contact nations and races throughout the solar system - and really get something going around here! It would be sort of like the Stargate SG-1 underground base! I know not what I do - but I mean no harm. Secret Government - get ready for some hard-core competition. Prepare to lose!! We will transcend and replace the U.N. with a dozen dedicated citizens of the solar system. Perhaps someone can donate a UFO (sport model?) - so that we can travel throughout the solar system - to maintain stellar relations with the member states! There's got to be an old 2 being ufo that someone wants to unload! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9zoKGaf3AU&feature=related You think I'm kidding - but I'm not! I think this is feasible. 1 underground base + 1 supercomputer + 1 ufo = 1 kick@$$ command center. Watch out Queen of Heaven!!!! Prepare to experience a Royal Flush!!! Is there a Mr. Haddon out there somewhere? Remember Mr. Haddon in 'Contact'? Which country would such a facility be located in? How about a Base in Uranus?! How about the Moon? The Nazi's wouldn't mind - would they? Perhaps they could spare a couple of greys (Mork and Ork?) to show us the ropes - and introduce us to everyone in the solar system! Again - I'm not joking. I'm ready to moon-rock and roll!! Be afraid Regressive PTB! Be VERY afraid!!!
Tangentially - get the DVD's of the first twelve episodes of 'V' - and watch them with this thread in mind. I'm doing this presently. Actually - look at as many of my threads as possible - in between watching the 'V' episodes. Even if I am full of moon-rocks - it makes for some interesting entertainment. But really - I think there is something substantial to what I just suggested. There may be areas where I am completely wrong - but the overall impact is legitimate - I believe - and I believe I'll smoke another joint - or should I take another pill?
I don't have a problem with an approaching planet. I don't have a problem with a parallel civilization - hybrid or otherwise. I do have a problem with any destruction of the world and it's inhabitants - even of the bad ones. Violence is not a solution. A proper governmental system combined with valid principles and concepts is a solution. Enforcement should be kind yet firm. What if there were one isolated island or continent for the 'bad-ones'? I sometimes think that Earth is a planet for the 'bad-ones' - and that we're all 'bad-ones' - even if we don't think so. Teaching responsibility from cradle to grave (womb to tomb) worldwide will be necessary. Transitioning from city-life to country-life will also probably be necessary. I also envision more of a pursuit of pure-science combined with spirituality, in the context of nature - and less of an irresponsible pursuit of applied-science, technology, and industrialization, where the bottom-line is the bottom-line. A Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Solar System aka The United States of the Solar System - based upon Responsibility and the U.S. Constitution (in general terms) - with a top-down evolutionary implementation - is my final answer. The term 'United States' raises a lot of red-flags - especially after the last decade of madness. I use the term because of the governmental system which is implied - and currently in use. Unfortunately, it is being implemented in an irresponsible, corrupted, infiltrated, and subverted sort of way. What would be included in the term 'beings'? I went through this on AV1 - and used the term 'beings' instead of 'people'. But then I got scared - because I don't know the true nature of the beings which inhabit this solar system - or who might inhabit it in the future. Once again - I don't really know who the good beings are, and who the bad beings are.
In a sense - I wish for everything to change - and in another sense - I wish for nothing to change. Changing everything, in a heavy-handed and arbitrary manner, can destroy everything. We must become like little children - like the three year-old. Then we'll know what to do. I tend to think that a proper understanding of the soul and reincarnation is also essential. If we have to come back to this Earth - lifetime after lifetime - shouldn't we make it into a heaven - rather than a hell? We make our bed - and sleep in it. Our planet is how we plan-it. Belief in saviours, destruction of the world and the wicked, going to a faraway heaven - really doesn't help - especially if it's bs. I guess the secret is to have the beings who are currently good - in charge - rather than the other way around - which seems to be the case presently. What if everyone was like me? What kind of a world would it be? In my case, it probably wouldn't be very good. The state of the world, and my esoteric quest, seems to have taken it's toll on me. My disillusionment, disorientation, discomfort, and discouragement is at an all-time high. I feel as though I have been fighting my whole life, and going absolutely nowhere. It feels as though I got dropped-off on a planet which I am ill-suited to be on. But on a positive note - most of the world's problems can be solved by reflecting in solitude. I will continue to mentally model a Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Solar System - and see where that leads me. That's my story - and I'm sticking to it - until the Galactic PTB implement something vastly superior. Sometimes people have to promote something long enough to demonstrate that it doesn't work. I'm prepared to accept defeat. I'm actually quite used to it. I think it might be kinda cool if the Nibiruans signed-on to the United States of the Solar System idea. I'll bet they have the capability of altering the course of Nibiru, to enable it to take up a relatively circular orbit safely beyond the orbit of Pluto - or something like that. Something tells me that we need to get this solar system thing right - before we get into the really exotic stuff. Baby steps. Or should I say 'three year-old steps'?
I don't absolutely know that Nibiru and the Annunaki exist. The evidence seems overwhelming - but who really knows what the proper interpretation of this evidence is? In a sense - I'm trying to convert the Niburans and the Annunaki - and all factions - to the concept of a Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Solar System. The actual implementation by the various factions would undoubtedly vary from planet to planet, nation to nation, and group to group. It seems that soul-force will have to win in the end - because the genuinely good guys and gals probably don't have the brute-force to implement the right-thing for this solar system. I don't know that for a fact. But if there are enough defectors throughout the various factions (including their leaders), there might be a genuinely positive outcome. Once again - This is a Test. This is Only a Test. I wish for a proper solar system governmental system to be implemented - and all of the issues sorted out - before I even think of getting in a UFO - although I recently put out a call for someone to donate an old 'sport-model' to the cause - to be used for proselytizing. At this point - I am very wary of saviors. Save us from our saviors. What if most of the stuff being tossed around the alternative media regarding ufo's, aliens, earth-changes, ascension, ascended-masters, universe-history, etc, etc - is mostly bs? I'm sorry to keep bringing this up - but I am a very suspicious and paranoid person. I'm having to work very hard to begin to come up with a solar system view which works for me - and I still don't know if even that is legitimate. I think something hidden and huge has been going on here for a long time - and now whatever it is - is in the process of being exposed - and this phenomenon does not wish to be exposed - and does not wish to lose power, or be brought to justice - hence the deception and manipulation. I keep thinking that the earth-changes would be connected with an angry lashing-out by a cornered animal - so to speak. I guess this is one reason why I am looking for a graceful end-game - without catastophic events of any kind - and where even the really bad guys and gals can have the chance to become good guys and gals - with a reasonable program of restitution, re-education, and restoration - which might include extended incarceration - but no damning to hell retribution or eternal extermination scenarios. But once again - I don't know the whole story - and if I did, I might be saying something completely different. I don't know Jack. I don't even know Jill.
Once again - I am putting out a call - into the vast regions of space and cyberspace - to consider the general topic of Solar System Governance. This thread might be a convenient starting-point. I've lately been feeling myself circling the wagons around this thread - but I should probably resist doing so - and keep a completely open mind. So many brilliant ideas get run into the ground by utterly stupid people and organizations. This thread is probably more of an attempt to catch-up with the PTB - than it is to attempt to tell them what to do - although I'd like to tell some of them where to go....Mercuriel wrote:You're not the only One that would like to tell Them where to go...
You have It Oxy. We must be Sovereigns and Govern Ourselves...
But how can One Govern Themselves if They are not Soveriegn ?
Do You now see where I was going with this Idea of Sovereignty previously ?
The Namaste Constitutionally Responsible and Free Solar System is an absolute impossibility WITHOUT Us being Sovereigns thereby ensuring It...
Once We are Sovereign - The Model You've espoused will work very well.
So with that said - We must learn to be Sovereign and through that as We Govern Ourselves in Unity and Harmony - We will make the Namaste Constitutionally Responsible and Free Solar System - A fact...
I see what you are saying - and I agree. There is currently a great gulf fixed between the very smart, very corrupt, powers that be - and the very stupid, very ignorant, sheeple. It's a helluva mess. EVERYONE NEEDS TO BE AN ELITE. I think the internet is starting to make this happen - but now it's a race to see if the internet (and the huge amount of forbidden knowledge) will be used responsibly or irresponsibly by the majority of the human race. Will we run in the streets - or will we run this solar system? The best crowd-control is self-control. It's almost as if we all need to be gods and goddesses - without acting like gods and goddesses. The goyim and the elites need to be on the same page. I'm trying to work toward that goal with this thread. I've been around a couple of people who I think really were elites (or were very close to elites) - and I am trying to emulate the best traits which I saw in them. It's not going very well - but I am trying. The best aspects of the Queen of Heaven concept might be worthy of emulation - if only the negative aspects can be completely avoided. This is all a big juggling act. I think Atlas dropped the ball - and shrugged - and that's why we're in such a big mess.
Sinners in the hands of a loving god - who has committed mass-murder before - and who will not hesitate to commit mass-murder again and again? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9mFn9EhgU4 The entire god concept is problematic. Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. A new commandment I give unto you - 'Thou shalt have no gods'. I'm getting really sick and tired of this wrath of god bs. How about a god who teaches responsibility - and then behaves responsibly? Is that too much to ask? Some might say that I'm making things worse for myself - but how could things be any worse - given my AV1 and MOA posting? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYkbqzWVHZI I'm already toast. I'm just trying to make things better for the lucky few who know how to grovel and beg for mercy. Could this be the sort of thing we are really dealing with? 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyKy8_sF4xY 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3A6_blpqpU 3. http://www.hulu.com/watch/108637/stargate-sg-1-the-powers-that-be 4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b365_qJEpDg I'm basically trying to talk sense to the gods and goddesses - but so far, they don't seem to be talking to me - which may be just as well. World Without Reason. Amen
I continue to be a fan of spiritual and moral discipline. I am a fan of elegance, excellence, and all manner of culture and refinement. I envision a perfected humanity - living in a perfected solar system - with no war, starvation, cruelty, murder, poverty, or even the most minor of crimes. But any form of enslavement or extermination is at the top of my fecal list. Unquestioning obedience and servitude is not loyalty - it's stupidity. Just following orders is a bs defense - which ranks right up there with the 'twinky-defense' or 'the devil made me do it'. A Vatican which was in complete harmony with the Teachings of Jesus and the U.S. Constitution would be a perfect setting to converse with a super-intelligent and highly-refined solar system administrator - who was uber-competent, yet humble and low-key - and who might be wearing blue-jeans and Birkenstocks - instead of lace and Prada - and who did not engage in petty micromanagement - but simply made sure that a proper governmental system remained intact and uncorrupted - and then just traveled the solar system visiting with all nations and races (including reptilians, greys, and hybrids) - but showed no favoritism whatsoever. Hope springs eternal.
Why is applying responsibility (as found in the Teachings of Jesus and the U.S. Constitution) to this solar system and it's inhabitants a bad thing? Should we be irresponsible as we look forward to pie in the sky - in the sweet by and by? Should we look forward to the extermination of the wicked - and the destruction of this beautiful world - by an angry god of love? What's wrong with this picture? "Thy will be done - on Earth - as it is in Heaven". The God and/or the Goddess of This World needs to retire - and Responsibility - as found in the Teachings of Jesus, and the U.S. Constitution, needs to be the modus operandi of this solar system. If we can't even run this solar system - why should we be trusted anywhere else in the universe - especially in Heaven? Why should we be irresponsible - and expect God to take care of everything for us? Perhaps this solar system is as good as it gets - anywhere in the universe. Why do we seem to be so ungrateful for the home God has given us?
Regarding my previous call for an old missile launch facility, a Cray supercomputer, and a Sport Model UFO - I think that realistically, an old $150,000 decommissioned missile silo 1. http://www.missilebases.com/ 2. http://www.siloforsale.com/ 3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tht-Th7HnXA&NR=1 - combined with a $1,500 computer system - would have to suffice. I really like the idea of decorating it to resemble the Stargate SG-1 underground facility (complete with stargate)! UFO's and alien visitors would be welcome - but the stargate entrance (complete with alarms and flashing lights) would have an iris (or blast door) - to keep out unwelcome incoming travellers (Goa-uld)! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moNjU92SoDc&feature=related I have gone on record, saying that I would like to see half of Earth's human population living underground. Perhaps this plan would help me to walk the walk - instead of just talking the talk! I'm sure that I could communicate with underground bases throughout the solar system via the internet. Sometimes I think I'm already doing so. It's a small solar system, after all! I like the manner in which the Stargate SG-1 team deals with all manner of problems, threats, and beings.
I have listened to (and read) Malachi Martin extensively - and I like him. All I know - at this point - is that it seems as though the bad guys and gals are running the show in this solar system. They mess with us while we are physically alive - so why should we think that they stop messing with us when we physically die? I don't trust experiences - even when they are my own. I try to rely on principles, concepts, proof, and logic. I tend to think that the war for our souls is just as intense on the other-side as it is on this-side. My hope is built on nothing less than an esoteric understanding of the Teachings of Jesus - and a changing of the guard in this solar system. I'm trying to think like a renegade and free-thinking (unemployed and on the run) Jesuit or Elite - if that's even possible. What if the threat of Earth Changes is designed to get us to behave in a desired manner - and if we fail to submit and obey - the Earth Changes will be implemented to make us submit and obey? I don't doubt that malevolent and regressive PTB (human and otherwise) have the ability to inflict incredible destruction - which might make '2012' (the movie) look like a Suday School Picnic. Well - perhaps that last sentence was a bit of an exaggeration. Then again - maybe not. What if the malevolent and regressive PTB control nearly all nukes, underground bases, advanced technology, hybrid super-soldiers, and ufo's in the solar system? What if Kali aka The Queen of Heaven controls them from the most secure underground facility (Temple of Doom - under the Taj Mahal?) in the solar system? I didn't ruin anyone's day - did I?
I'm not trusting in anyone these days - not even myself. I know that's a red-flag for all of the condescending psychologists, psychiatrists, and doctors of divinity - but frankly - oh never mind. It has been suggested that I need a vacation - but I really don't think that would help. I'm already going at a snails-pace. I don't see how I could possibly go any slower. If anything - I need to go about ten times faster than I'm going presently - without exaggeration. Why does asking questions seem to be so unsettling? The subjects we discuss - call for more questioning than pontificating. I'm just sort of a Galactic Columbo. One more thing - I am serious about reading the Four Gospels, the Federalist Papers, and the Anti-Federalist Papers over and over again, while listening to Latin Masses and Classical Sacred Music. I take hour-long walks in the forrest and by the ocean - nearly every day. I believe that any discomfort and distress I may be experiencing arises from doing battle with demonic entities 24/7 - but I have no intention of waving the white-flag anytime soon. This is only the beginning.
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It may just be a coincidence, but interestingly, in recent years key foes of Israel have been destroyed by the US and UK on dates that coincide with the Jewish Festivity of Purim that falls every year on the 14th of the Hebrew month of Adar. Based on the Old Testament Book of Esther, Purim celebrates the slaughter of 75,000 enemies of the Jews throughout the Persia Empire (modern Iran, of all places!)
Purim falls on a different date each year in our Western calendar: in 1991 it fell on 1st March (actually it started at sunset on 28th February) which was the exact day the Bush I administration called victory in Iraq. In 2003, Purim fell on 19th March which is when Bush II invaded Iraq. Last year it again fell on 19th March, marking the first massive NATO attack on Libya.
This year Purim falls on 8th March. Will Israel and the US go into War Mode this week?
Purim falls on a different date each year in our Western calendar: in 1991 it fell on 1st March (actually it started at sunset on 28th February) which was the exact day the Bush I administration called victory in Iraq. In 2003, Purim fell on 19th March which is when Bush II invaded Iraq. Last year it again fell on 19th March, marking the first massive NATO attack on Libya.
This year Purim falls on 8th March. Will Israel and the US go into War Mode this week?
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Thank-you eXchanger. Celebrating Slaughter seems so wrong on so many levels. You make a valid and interesting point. Fukushima occurred on March 11 (which was close to Purim). March seems to be a blood-month of sorts. Iraq = Babylon = Persia. Persia is supposedly behind Bohemian Grove. Consider Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, and Rome. Consider Enlil and Lilith. Consider the possibility of Archangel Gabriel assisting Enlil in teaching Lilith and Humanity a lesson -- with the Universe watching -- and learning to never, ever again attempt Responsible-Freedom and Human-Physicality. With Humanity and Freedom exterminated -- perhaps the Beings of the Universe Will Bask in a Purified Universe -- with Sin and Sinners Removed Forevermore. Perhaps then they will say 'We Are All One Once More'. It seems as if the Solar System Rulers Follow a Punishment and Extermination Script -- Which Often Masquerades as Biblical Prophecy. History might be more Divinely Directed (and not in a good way) than we can possibly imagine. Just more speculation. I mean no careless disrespect -- but I continue to think that we should consider ALL of the possibilities regarding the most important subjects imaginable -- before it is too late. Think about it -- and PLEASE strain yourselves.
What if the high-ranking souls in the Secret Government have access to more than one body? What if there is an Avatar and Soul-Transference Program? What if certain souls never sleep? What if they simply change bodies when they get tired. I spoke with someone who said that they didn't have to sleep -- ever. I guessed it -- and they confirmed it. I've heard that Obama has more than one body! The Secret Government, Underground Bases, and Secret Space Program might be a helluva lot more sophisticated than we think. I'm frankly trying to conceptually live within a purified and ethical version of this realm -- 24/7 -- without actually living within this realm. I hope that my version will become a reality in the near future -- but I doubt that it exists presently. Is this really a three-way contest between Enlil, Lilith, and Gabriel? Has Lilith been disempowered and out of the loop for thousands of years? Have Enlil and Gabriel been punishing Lilith and Humanity for thousands of years? At some point, did Gabriel turn on Enlil -- and 'want it all'? Are Enlil and Gabriel presently cornered, and in deep trouble? Is Lilith still clueless -- yet beginning to wake-up and remember? Leave no stone unturned. I have a feeling that things are about to get REALLY interesting -- in both good and bad ways. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3NM6i4pRwM&feature=related Where did this scar on Obama's head come from? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNxxfV_dVT8&feature=related Was the hood opened for some fine-tuning? Is Obama an Obot? Damned if I know. http://www.rense.com/general93/obbrain.htm (Why is www.rense.com not working?) Have the round-ups started? Just because I'm crazy and paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get us!
What if the high-ranking souls in the Secret Government have access to more than one body? What if there is an Avatar and Soul-Transference Program? What if certain souls never sleep? What if they simply change bodies when they get tired. I spoke with someone who said that they didn't have to sleep -- ever. I guessed it -- and they confirmed it. I've heard that Obama has more than one body! The Secret Government, Underground Bases, and Secret Space Program might be a helluva lot more sophisticated than we think. I'm frankly trying to conceptually live within a purified and ethical version of this realm -- 24/7 -- without actually living within this realm. I hope that my version will become a reality in the near future -- but I doubt that it exists presently. Is this really a three-way contest between Enlil, Lilith, and Gabriel? Has Lilith been disempowered and out of the loop for thousands of years? Have Enlil and Gabriel been punishing Lilith and Humanity for thousands of years? At some point, did Gabriel turn on Enlil -- and 'want it all'? Are Enlil and Gabriel presently cornered, and in deep trouble? Is Lilith still clueless -- yet beginning to wake-up and remember? Leave no stone unturned. I have a feeling that things are about to get REALLY interesting -- in both good and bad ways. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3NM6i4pRwM&feature=related Where did this scar on Obama's head come from? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNxxfV_dVT8&feature=related Was the hood opened for some fine-tuning? Is Obama an Obot? Damned if I know. http://www.rense.com/general93/obbrain.htm (Why is www.rense.com not working?) Have the round-ups started? Just because I'm crazy and paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get us!