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    Post  anomalous cowherd Sat Dec 18, 2010 4:18 pm

    I would never shoot Kiesha, I think that is apparent in what I have posted. I doubt she has self promoted as well.
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    Post  Micjer Sat Dec 18, 2010 4:22 pm

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    Listen to her message, and take what feels right. Let the rest go. I would hate to think that her followers were cult like.
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    Post  anomalous cowherd Sat Dec 18, 2010 4:30 pm

    simple answer is don't be a follower. BTW, that picture sure looks like a cult, or Hollyweird. I think white indians just look so much nicer. ugh, totally wrong is what that photo says to me.
    but yes, enjoy the message, just ask yourself, does it empower or does it make you sit back ? or does it make you wanna just go out and buy some fringe?
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    Post  mudra Tue Dec 21, 2010 4:19 pm

    Maybe this ....

    Kiesha Crowther - Little Grandmother

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juoD2CdHBAM&feature=player_embedded


    Happened because of that ....

    REAL Native Americans EXPOSE Fake Natives and the NEW age


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9r5rOmJ6uk



    It does'nt change anything to the fact that I am sensible to the essence of her messages and appreciate them.
    It would be good to hear her own words in response to the allegations made about her.

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    Post  Micjer Tue Dec 21, 2010 4:52 pm

    Mudra .... ask and you shall receive!

    http://www.tribeofmanycolors.net/news-and-urgent-messages/response-to-misinformation-on-the-web.html

    published Saturday, October 16, 2010 - 11:30 pm (MDT)


    Dear Friends of Tribe of Many Colors

    I personally wish to address the issue of what is being written about me on a particular web site (fraud site). I thought at first I would not give an ounce of my energy to such negative and ridiculous claims… But I see now that I need to address such actions because those who read them without knowing the truth of what I or the others being attacked on this site really are about or what it is we are doing in the world will be dreadfully misled. It is so sad to me that people would spend their time trying to damage the names of those who are working so hard in the world to simply spread the message of love, but I also know as long as there is good and love in the world there will also be negativity, darkness, cynicism... I ask the readers to listen with their own hearts to know what is true for them, as I always have asked, and do not judge without educating yourself on what is really being said and done. The list of outlandish remarks (such as that I wear a microphone in one photo and so must be a fraud!) go on and on… many are too shallow to justify with a response. Others who are also being attacked on this site are some of the most beautiful beings on our planet, such as the 13 Indigenous Grandmothers, the Continental Council of Indigenous Elders, Adam Yellow Bird, Drunvalo Melchizadek, all of whom all spend their lives dedicated to raising consciousness, awareness and love vibration. For the benefit of those who do not know me, and for those who support me but have been troubled by this sudden cropping up of negativity, please read the message below where we would like to set the record straight on a few matters, so that you do not carry doubt in your hearts and minds!.
    With love and so much heart-felt gratitude,
    Kiesha (Little Grandmother)
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    Post  mudra Tue Dec 21, 2010 5:45 pm

    Lovely Micjer Cheerful
    This is very much appreciated .
    Thank You .

    Flowers

    Love for You
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    Post  Micjer Sun Dec 26, 2010 9:37 pm

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    Post  Mercuriel Mon Dec 27, 2010 9:44 am

    When accessing the above Link I get ;

    "404 - Beitrag #70 nicht gefunden!"

    Blink


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    Post  mudra Mon Dec 27, 2010 9:49 am

    Mercuriel wrote:When accessing the above Link I get ;

    "404 - Beitrag #70 nicht gefunden!"

    Blink

    I read the message earlier on but I now went directly to her site and it seems it was removed from there Mercuriel.

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    Post  Mercuriel Mon Dec 27, 2010 9:59 am

    Hmmm - Did this Message step on someone's toes I wonder...

    Makes Me want to have read It...

    Off to the Internet Archive I guess...

    Huh ?



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    Post  Mercuriel Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:11 am

    OK - Heres the Skinny...

    The Internet Wayback Machine tells Me that this Site has actually installed a Robot.txt File in that Site's Root Directory. This little File prevents Archiving which is incredibly unusual in Itself to have found It on a Truther Site...

    (I mean Its a DNS Backup most People don't circumvent but one which Alphabet Soup Agencies do regularly)

    That said - Either the Site Owner placed that in the Root Directory so It couldn't be Archived or Hackers have done It to the Site owner without Their knowledge (Which I doubt).

    Now if Hackers did It - It would be obvious as to why They would. That said though - If it was the Site owner thats a whole different ball of Wax and It even ties back to the reason for the Message in the first place. That being ;

    "urgent message concerning misinformation campaign on the internet"

    A Conundrum here for sure...

    Huh ?


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    Post  mudra Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:38 am

    I think it's more to do with the webdesigner's work bringing modifications to the message .
    As there is a current new message concerning Native American issues posted on dec 26th.

    http://www.tribeofmanycolors.net/news-and-urgent-messages/official-statement-regarding-native-american-issues-dp1.html

    All previous ones have disappeared .

    Comparing this last one to the earlier ones I would say it's much more positive , less defensive .
    What she titled previously as " response to misinformation on the WEB "

    see page " en cache " here : www.tribeofmanycolors.net/news-and-urgent-messages+the+tribe+of+many+colors&cd=2&hl=fr&ct=clnk&gl=be&client=firefox-a" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:oRCyvrUBCrcJ:www.tribeofmanycolors.net/news-and-urgent-messages+the+tribe+of+many+colors&cd=2&hl=fr&ct=clnk&gl=be&client=firefox-a

    has become :" Official Statement Regarding Native American Issues "

    Kiesha probably realized she does'nt need to justify herself in front of attacks after all.


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    Post  Mercuriel Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:45 am

    Coolness - Reading It now...

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    Post  Mercuriel Mon Dec 27, 2010 11:12 am

    Hmmm - Interesting - Shes distancing Herself from Her Native American Heritage...

    I see Confusion here - Or - The distancing causing Confusion...

    Intended ?

    Huh ?


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    Post  mudra Mon Dec 27, 2010 11:55 am

    I think she is under heavy attack and yes probably a bit shaken by this.

    I found a copy of her first message Mercuriel

    http://thefederationoflight.ning.com/group/thegospeloftheredman/forum/topics/shaman-kiesha-crowther-little?xg_source=activity

    her second message ( the one that has been removed from her website tdoay was similar)

    URGENT MESSAGE FROM LITTLE GRANDMOTHER
    October 18, 2010


    Dear Friends of One Heart and Tribe of Many Colors,

    I personally wish to address the issue of what is being written about me on a particular web site (fraud site). I thought at first I would not give an ounce of my energy to such negative and ridiculous claims… But I see now that I need to address such actions because those who read them without knowing the truth of what I or the others being attacked on this site really are about or what it is we are doing in the world will be dreadfully misled. It is so sad to me that people would spend their time trying to damage the names of those who are working so hard in the world to simply spread the message of love, but I also know as long as there is good and love in the world there will also be negativity, darkness, cynicism... I ask the readers to listen with their own hearts to know what is true for them, as I always have asked, and do not judge without educating yourself on what is really being said and done. The list of outlandish remarks (such as that I wear a microphone in one photo and so must be a fraud!) go on and on… many are too shallow to justify with a response. Others who are also being attacked on this site are some of the most beautiful beings on our planet, such as the 13 Indigenous Grandmothers, the Continental Council of Indigenous Elders, Adam Yellow Bird, Drunvalo Melchizadek, all of whom all spend their lives dedicated to raising consciousness, awareness and love vibration. For the benefit of those who do not know me, and for those who support me but have been troubled by this sudden cropping up of negativity, please read the message below where we would like to set the record straight on a few matters, so that you do not carry doubt in your hearts and minds!.

    With love and so much heart-felt gratitude,

    Kiesha (Little Grandmother)


    Response to Recent Misinformation on the Web about Little Grandmother

    A very negative “forum” on the web has decided to categorize various spiritual teachers, leaders, and figures as “frauds” based on speculation, subjective opinion, and hackneyed misinformation. Recently this web site added Little Grandmother (Kiesha Crowther) to this list; We are extremely disheartened by the blatantly inaccurate and false allegations made by a few individuals in this forum, which have nevertheless been reaching the ears of many. Therefore we want to address some of the core allegations raised. While we know that such negative attacks are bound to arise in relation to becoming well-known on the internet, especially with the sensitive subjects that Kiesha is speaking of—such baseless attacks nevertheless cast a shadow and a doubt in people’s minds, regardless of their truth or validity—This is unfortunate, and one of the down-sides to the internet!


    Is Kiesha Really Native American? Is she a Legitimate Shaman?

    Kiesha’s maternal side of the family is Sioux and Salish, and comes from the Flathead Reservation in Montana. Even though Kiesha did not grow up among tribal traditions, and had grown up away from the tribe, she was nevertheless made a shaman and recognized as a shaman by the elders of this tribe at age 30 (she had actually been recognized and marked out at age 8 as a future shaman while attending a tribal ceremony.) However, (and this is important), Kiesha was told by these elders that her “tribe” was to be the “Tribe of Many Colors”. The elders were full aware that Kiesha did not know the indigenous ways… She was never intended to lead traditional ceremony in a tribal context, or to present herself as a representative of her particular tribe and its indigenous ways. To this day, she has never presented herself as a representative of her tribe’s traditions. Some people who have linked to her videos on the web or written about her may have incorrectly stated this association or made this assumption—but especially since she has become well-known, Kiesha has tried to never present or describe herself as a Sioux or Salish shaman. She is a Native American shaman, and this would be technically correct to say since she is part-Native American and was made shaman by her family’s tribe—However, she does not use this language because it implies that she is working within a traditional context. She has been taught to pray and lead ceremony in certain ways, and many of these are in fact traditional ways. But she does not pretend to know or to follow the traditions to a tee. That is not her role and purpose. If it were, she would have been summoned to move back to Montana and live among the tribe, serving as shaman there. While tribal members do occasionally seek her out and are referred to her for counsel, blessings, and healings (offered freely of course), her primary responsibility is to be shaman for the Tribe of Many Colors—which includes non-indigenous people of all backgrounds. Beyond her work as shaman, one of her major roles as wisdom-keeper is to speak and share the “messages” she receives with people all over the planet.

    Who Recognizes Her as Shaman?

    Not only has Kiesha been recognized by her family’s tribe as a shaman; in addition, she has been recognized as shaman of the “Tribe of Many Colors” by the spiritual elders of many indigenous tribes and peoples including the Cherokee, the Cheyenne, the Hopi, the Inuit, the Aboriginal people, the Waitaha, the Maori, the Maya, the Zulu, as well as the lamas of Nepal and Tibet. Gifts and medicine from these peoples began coming soon after she was initiated as shaman at age 30 and have been coming ever since. These peoples regard her as the incarnation of something very important—which Keisha has never wanted to make public or to give weight to. Frankly, the weight and responsibility of what many of these peoples regard her as is extremely intimidating to her and makes her anxious.

    Kiesha’s elders are not from just one tribe—She is being guided by elders who comprise the Continental Council of Indigenous Elders from indigenous peoples all over the planet, as well as receiving direct teaching from spirit guides and indigenous elders past of several different traditions, including the Sioux and Salish. Whether this seems incredible and unbelievable to some, this is the case—If some people think that matters of utmost sacredness should conform to our cultural expectations and prerogatives, that Kiesha should be teaching tribal ways and if she is not then she cannot be a legitimate shaman and wisdom keeper--no one will be able to convince them otherwise. I personally have witnessed Kiesha receive teaching messages in Sioux (which she does not speak) from ancestors past. Why was a young white-looking woman who is not a full-blooded “Indian” and who grew up away from her ancestral tribe recognized as shaman by the tribal elders? This is a question to ask those who made her as shaman—she did not decide to become a shaman one day but was called to be.

    Why do some Native Americans not know of her, and why do some Native Americans question her legitimacy?

    Kiesha has received overwhelming support from indigenous people of many many tribes… There will always be individuals, both Native and non-Native, who question, who judge, who think that Kiesha is another white “imposter” appropriating Native American ways for profit. Unfortunately, our culture has too much of this, and it can be hard to separate the wheat from the chaff. Some people will be justifiably miffed that such a blond young white woman, not raised on the reservation, would be made shaman… passing over more suitable and appropriate candidates-- this might be the feeling of some people in her own family’s tribe, especially as many of them do not know her. But Kiesha, while Native American by blood and initiated by her family’s tribe, does not presume or pretend to present traditional Native ways and wisdom to the public. What she is speaking of includes and yet goes beyond indigenous prophecies and wisdom, and she does not teach the spiritual ways and customs of any particular tribe, but the wisdom she is taught by her spirit guides and asked to share, that crosses cultural boundaries. She is not implying that it is not important to preserve and present indigenous traditions in their fullness and purity, but only that it is not her role to do so, since she is not working in a tribal context but in a multicultural context. With utmost respect for her ancestral traditions, and for indigenous wisdom and ways, she has been taught that the time has come for all people to unite as children of one Mother, and to recognize a common brotherhood within the heart’s wisdom—that is neither indigenous nor non-indigenous, though the indigenous peoples of the earth hold powerful keys in remembering the way.


    Who Are This Council, and Do They Really Exist?

    Kiesha receives direction and guidance about the crystal ceremonies she needs to conduct on the planet, as well as other spiritual matters, from the Continental Council of Indigenous Elders, and from her own spirit guides. This Council does exist, whether or not they have an organization signified by a web site, nonprofit status, membership roster, charter and mission statement. If you look for them on the web you will find little. These are some of the wisest and most evolved elders from indigenous peoples all over the planet; they do not use the internet; they meet sometimes in the physical and sometimes on the etheric levels; yet they are real people, some of them well-known and powerful spiritual figures in the world. Again, we realize that for a skeptic this will not be sufficient proof and anything less than a membership roster will not convince them that this Council exists, nor that they are doing work of global and cosmic significance, however mysterious it appears. While skepticism can be healthy, and transparency is necessary on the societal level of religion, culture and politics, there are nonetheless many spiritual and cosmic good works underway by individuals and groups of individuals that cannot be made known to the internet masses—it would thwart what they are trying to do, and the “under the radar” nature of much that is happening and needs to happen on the planet right now. If Kiesha could reveal who is on this Council, (at least those she knows of and has spoken with), she would—but that is not her place to do so. If they decide to make themselves known, they will. Even she does not know all of those who are on this Council, and how exactly they meet, communicate and work. But she is guided by elders on this Council who communicate with her, sometimes through a translator, and also etherically, and she has been told that she is one of 12 “wisdom-keepers” who have been taught similar things by the ancestors and Mother Earth since they were children, and who have a special role to play on the planet at this time. Little Grandmother’s role, as you might imagine, has to do with communication of spiritual information and planetary messages on a large scale. In the end, you must use your heart to decide about the existence, authenticity and legitimacy of this Council of wise beings who are working for the benefit of the planet right now. May your eyes be open, and may you listen for the truth from your deepest hearts.

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    Post  Mercuriel Mon Dec 27, 2010 12:12 pm

    TY for finding It Sister...

    Reading...

    cheers


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    Post  Micjer Mon Dec 27, 2010 5:09 pm

    http://littlegrandmother.net/NEWURGENTMESSAGE.aspx


    Sorry for the confusion. It worked this am but something changed and went german!!!

    Here is another link to the same message. Ironic confusion to find link and seems like confusion in the message!
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    Post  Guest Tue Jan 11, 2011 4:57 am

    With all the strange animal deaths and magnetic shifts thought I would take a second look at this
    wondered if quartz assists with grounding or dealing with magnetic charges

    "Little Grandmothers Urgent Advice on QUARTZ Crystals

    Mother Earth is awakening.. much is being done in the coming days and we must unite each other in love and to Gaia Beloved Mother.. this is important dear family and I will write extensively on this very soon. But please gather yourselves a piece of quartz crystal and wear it around your neck. It is time to reconnect ourselves to Mother..

    A small piece of quartz crystal on a simple leather twine or another natural necklace.. it doesn't have to be big, it can be small.. place it around your neck, place them on your children, on your loved ones. The energy of Mother is being reclaimed by the loving human being and her crystals, her heart and her link to our own energy is being renewed... this is more important than i can express here.. but do this my family.. and wear it day and night.. There will be more explained at a later date.. but it is time for us to do this now not later. Gather together yourselves and wear once again the crystals that unite us with the Mother Energy of our planet.


    Before you place them around your neck hold the crystal in your hands and pray with all of your heart.. all of your goodness all of your Great I AM to connect us the human race in love to the crystals of Mother Earth and Her love, her intentions and Her Conciousness! In love, wear a bit of sacred mother around your neck.. so that as the crystals are awakened on planet earth this energy will link to you... and we become united as we once were during the days of Atlantis when Mother Earth and Her children were ONE!


    Please spread this info to those you love. Let every member of the Tribe of Many Colors here my words and connect to one another and Mother with a small piece of quartz.


    A clear quartz crystal.. just clear quartz... and yes please share this info.. the children of men will once again remember who they are and stand... to defend their mother and themselves through love. We are the Ones We Have Been Waiting For and the time is upon us to unite with Mother Gaia again. Let our hearts beat as one.. Clear quartz is what is needed!!l


    Kiesha Crowther - Little Grandmother - December 9, 2010"



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    Post  Micjer Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:45 am



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    Post  anomalous cowherd Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:55 am

    Little conwoman more like, wow, read the comments under this video. sheesh. Too bad she could not just deliver the message without ripping off the natives. The message is good but people are really pissed off with her and it hurts the delivery and by association the information.

    Sorry peeps not had much time to be here lately, busy trying to get things going in the real world, got a discussion group going and busy writing lyrics /collaborating on my partner's new band. It's all getting very dramatic out there.

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    Post  investigator Sat Jan 15, 2011 1:29 pm

    I guess it's a lesson that everyone needs to learn, everyone wants fast development, when it's probably going to take decades of training, when they should just develop on their own, and only rely on their own power. No one wants to hear it, everyone just wants a guru with all the answers lol. I learned that lesson the hard way I suppose, but at least I learned it early on at 26, instead of getting duped like all those other little grandmother worshippers. I feel bad for that lady in the comments section that got duped for 6 grand. Man, that lady lives in an awfully nice house, probably a better house then most on the sioux reservations lol .
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    Post  Micjer Thu Mar 03, 2011 12:08 pm

    I had seen that vid before. It is something to think about. Is she really good at getting a wonderful message out at the expense of the the native peoples?

    Perhaps. There is a lot of evidence and false statements that do not look good for her.

    I still love her message, but there is no doubt that she has been discredited by those that have felt betrayed and used.

    Here is an interesting thread on ATS...

    http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread644882/pg3


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    Post  windsinger Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:30 am

    turtle winds firewalker is a cherokee medicine man that famous worldwide
    he been speading the good news about little grandmother he could be her only
    hope at being trained by the cherokee and the lakota
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    Post  Brook Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:01 am

    I love her message as well..however there is a huge debate among the native Americans right now as to her stealing the traditions and profiting on them ..this has been a sore spot for the Native Americans for a very long time..especially among the new agers.....

    Now where this Turtle winds firewalker is concerned...he is not recognized as Cherokee...according to some Cherokee he cannot even speak it properly....her is a review from a native American on him........

    FRAUD ALLERT

    This person is a FRAUD. This person is NOT a medicine man nor is this person a healer of any sort. Nor is this FRAUD a certified
    massage therapist - he absolutely ZERO training or LEGAL CREDENTIALS to practice such a profession. This person claims to be Cherokee. THIS IS LIE. He is not Cherokee at all. He is not recognized by ANY Cherokee tribe or by any Cherokee tribal leader or official. He cannot speak the Cherokee tongue, he does not know ANY Cherokee ceremonial songs, nor does he know any Cherokee rituals. What he does is STEAL Lakota practices and then he makes things up from the Lakota culture, and ILLEGALLY SELLS THEM. He only knows what he has read or seen from other FRAUDS.


    HE MISREPRESENTS THESE THINGS AND HE MISREPRESENTS HIMSELF.
    http://www.powerfulintentions.org/profiles/comment/list?attachedToType=User&attachedTo=1hpmoq4cb0a9z&commentId=1335877%3AComment%3A2949602&xg_source=activity

    and this is not the only place where this is said about him. Now i just looked it and him up in the Cherokee Register of federally recognized tribes and his tribe is not there...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Native_American_Tribal_Entities

    Now one of the major discrepancies with Little Grandmother is that she is using triditions of the Native Americans ...but is not only NOT a Native American...she is not backed by any of them...including Lakota. Lakota is a proud tribe and well...listen to the Lakota speak




    Sacred and a mystery...they do not throw this out on the world ...it's sacred and carried on from generation to generation so it won't be tainted by the materialistic world of the white man.

    David Swallow is someone I've listened to quite often...and No where is this turtle winds firewalker mentioned by any native American tribes as authentic...not the ones that are listed as authentic. And this to me says......Hmmmmm....why is it if the message is pure from Little Grandmother....why would then not embrace her? Big questions there..in my mind anyhow.

    Now I live in the heart of Cherokee country....the Cherokee headquarters is very near where I live....they do not mention him or his tribe anywhere either.

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