I think Ashly Judd pretty much destroyed the feminine movement with her Nasty Woman speech last year. Disgusting speech and did nothing to help women other then to provide a platform for a few angry women to vent.
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this is the very crux of the problem. Women feel they need help to rise in their arenas. This undoubtedly shows weakness .. weakness of mind and spirit.
let me share some inside info for you all... regardless of gender all mountains need to be climbed , is there a path at the Eiger Switzerland saying " women only " ? NOOOOOO !!!! ... the nature of existence is survival of the fittest , something that has been repeated in nature for hundreds of millions of years and stil you dont get it ? or rather , dont want to get it...
men in any work scenario must rise through the ranks of a very competitive social and economic structure. We dont get there by favor unless its through forms of nepotism and in the study of the 5 great emperors not one of them was entitled to be there. They did it by rising against extreme odds. What women dont get is its hard to be successful. It has nothing to do with gender, just maybe some of the gender specific traits that are not commensurate to long term achievement.
the hurdles are unique to the situation ... nothing to do with gender but everything to do with the nature of the beast.
Patriarchy is by its very essence of evolution made by nature , Patriarchy has existed since the beginning of time.
I want to leave 3 videos that articulate what i believe in , so much better than i ever could. One caveat is Ayn Rand does not believe in god or gods ... i think in the traditional sense of the word is not true. In real terms a god is something of higher power , they most certainly exist , just not as we have been lead to believe.
The first video is with one of the greatest women of our time, Ayn Rand, an interview with an amazingly present Donaghue , his delivery of questions and their content is outstanding, the art of conjecture , interest and profound realisations are done in a stellar fashion during this interview.
please enjoy
let me share some inside info for you all... regardless of gender all mountains need to be climbed , is there a path at the Eiger Switzerland saying " women only " ? NOOOOOO !!!! ... the nature of existence is survival of the fittest , something that has been repeated in nature for hundreds of millions of years and stil you dont get it ? or rather , dont want to get it...
men in any work scenario must rise through the ranks of a very competitive social and economic structure. We dont get there by favor unless its through forms of nepotism and in the study of the 5 great emperors not one of them was entitled to be there. They did it by rising against extreme odds. What women dont get is its hard to be successful. It has nothing to do with gender, just maybe some of the gender specific traits that are not commensurate to long term achievement.
the hurdles are unique to the situation ... nothing to do with gender but everything to do with the nature of the beast.
Patriarchy is by its very essence of evolution made by nature , Patriarchy has existed since the beginning of time.
I want to leave 3 videos that articulate what i believe in , so much better than i ever could. One caveat is Ayn Rand does not believe in god or gods ... i think in the traditional sense of the word is not true. In real terms a god is something of higher power , they most certainly exist , just not as we have been lead to believe.
The first video is with one of the greatest women of our time, Ayn Rand, an interview with an amazingly present Donaghue , his delivery of questions and their content is outstanding, the art of conjecture , interest and profound realisations are done in a stellar fashion during this interview.
please enjoy
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The other 2 videos are ones between a feminist sympathiser namely Cathy Newman and a rational, intelligent man, Jordan Peterson.
yes thats a loaded sentence and for a reason which will become apparent once you see the two videos.
Now the purpose of this is not to shame feminists but rather to educate on how people can undermine and twist words, the fist video is the interview between the above and the second dives into the use of false prepositions inferring the interviewee is of bad character or at least bad to the side of which the interviewer is on.
This is the dismantling of the use of prepositions.
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yes thats a loaded sentence and for a reason which will become apparent once you see the two videos.
Now the purpose of this is not to shame feminists but rather to educate on how people can undermine and twist words, the fist video is the interview between the above and the second dives into the use of false prepositions inferring the interviewee is of bad character or at least bad to the side of which the interviewer is on.
This is the dismantling of the use of prepositions.
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Carol wrote:I think Ashly Judd pretty much destroyed the feminine movement with her Nasty Woman speech last year. Disgusting speech and did nothing to help women other then to provide a platform for a few angry women to vent.
are you using predictive text from a mobile device ?
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Carol wrote:I think Ashly Judd pretty much destroyed the feminine movement with her Nasty Woman speech last year. Disgusting speech and did nothing to help women other then to provide a platform for a few angry women to vent.
I just managed to watch some of that video and it has some good points and a lot of embarrassing ones. For the sake of women i wont post it here , it shows the worst parts of feminism and im sure we all know them.
What i saw however is an enticement to anger through a public figure which is designed to further the gap between men and women in the bigger picture.
Its clear that the feminist movement is not against cherry picking causes and calling them theirs such as black slavery . that kind of made me think a little but bringing attention to this is never really a bad thing if its to maintain awareness but in this instance it was not done tastefully and kind of backfires.
What you state Carol is exactly that , the way women work in private and now public is to generally shame their opponent into submission. Its a feline tactic thats taken off over the last 60 years or so which ironically makes women far less desirable as a life choice. Because women are physically not as strong as men ( generally speaking ) i can see why they feel less powerful in life , i think thats the basis of feminism , the fear of physical weakness in comparison to a man, very much the same way white man feared black men and indigenous cultures. Because they feared them and their strengths.
What i see here is that Ashley Judd and others like her are becoming the very beast they despise and are condoning slavery of men of all colours , women now have the tools to submit man to slavery for at least a 20 year sentence , the law and courts favor this and its obviously used as a tactic by disgruntled women.
Its a shame but this blood lust from the feminist movement is senseless. There is not a lot of long term thinking embed in its machination.
Women also use the law to gain some sort of income by destroying the lives of innocent children, in south africa women are paid a pension by the government if they have a child with fetal alcoholism ... so it has been documented women there get pregnant and drink copious amounts of alcohol so the child is born with this defect so they can get money. Yes and now im cherry picking faults of women , but to deliberately destroy the life of an innocent for money and by the very ones who are able to give life ? i have no words for this low point.
Whats the basis of this problem ? government decisions.
It creates the forum to exploit some sort of security.
If a smarter government were in place you would see them stopping all forms of welfare for any reason. In china do they have welfare ? not really , so their un employment rate is very low at approx 3.9 %.
A country with a 1 child maximum per couple. It does not solve problems but the family unit in china is very strong. Do they have a feminist movement ? Yes in fact their movement has been running longer than the western movement , but its only taken a turn for the worst in recent years where the influence of western feminism has made their voices increasingly irrational.
What am i trying to say here ? to vent anger is a good thing , i am all for it but to shame your self in the process is counter productive.
When i taught martial arts and self defense i literally saw women go from being fearful and despondent to being confident and peaceful. I had many conversations with various students , many of which were women and children. As a mentor and counselor in their eyes i did my best to guide them through the process. Learning self defense works to even the inner feeling of weakness and the greater the feeling inside the farther the individual went into learning.
There is no way to shame corrupted minds into submission , men who deliberately harm women who did not deserve it , criminals of both genders instinctively disobey laws and order. So why preach more rules ? Instead look inside and better your self by gaining strength and confidence by application. Its the only way i can see for now.
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Carol wrote:Excellent response N and enlightening male perspective.
All these suggestions that these are " male " perspectives ... i have to say they are not , they are merely logical ones. Remove gender from the information and insert an un gender definable target and you will realise they are just logical.
reverse anything a man has ever done to a woman and ask your self , would a woman be just as upset ?
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I was just enjoying the perspectives of Karen Straughan and one in particular i found useful to this thread.
please enjoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faeT4fIFAcg
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please enjoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faeT4fIFAcg
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Hello Misty Friends
I came across a well researched video presentation i think would be interesting for this thread, it came up with stats that i didnt think were possible.
One shocked even me ! 49% of all child abuse is perpetrated by the mother.... 22% by the father ...
i know ... regardless this presentation is not androcentric. Please enjoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1xf78EltKM
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I came across a well researched video presentation i think would be interesting for this thread, it came up with stats that i didnt think were possible.
One shocked even me ! 49% of all child abuse is perpetrated by the mother.... 22% by the father ...
i know ... regardless this presentation is not androcentric. Please enjoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1xf78EltKM
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That ^ is very sad. Fear-based stress due to lack does terrible things to us. Any guilt felt would just add to that stress. 
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Sanicle wrote:That ^ is very sad. Fear-based stress due to lack does terrible things to us. Any guilt felt would just add to that stress.
Hey Sanicle , can you elaborate ?
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Hi Nanu 
Sorry, I didn't watch the video. Anything and hour long or more just makes me wince, especially when it appears to be full of dry old stats etc.
What I was responding to was what you said --------------------- "One shocked even me! 49% of all child abuse is perpetrated by the mother.... 22% by the father ..." and the title of the vid specifically relating to single Mums. I put the two together, maybe erroneously.
I can relate to single Mums who deal with a lack of support, a lack of funds, a lack of personal time and a lack of self respect. I was there myself many years ago and know only too well what those lacks created -- the fear of failing to support my child. It saddens me still to think back on those times and for all the other women who are, or have been, in this situation. The stress of living like that was almost overwhelming at times, creating deep-seated anger and depression, and the resulting guilt for that.
Thankfully, for me, it never led to child abuse. But I can see how it would, which is horrible to contemplate. I still have nightmares about it actually.
Sorry, I didn't watch the video. Anything and hour long or more just makes me wince, especially when it appears to be full of dry old stats etc.
What I was responding to was what you said --------------------- "One shocked even me! 49% of all child abuse is perpetrated by the mother.... 22% by the father ..." and the title of the vid specifically relating to single Mums. I put the two together, maybe erroneously.
I can relate to single Mums who deal with a lack of support, a lack of funds, a lack of personal time and a lack of self respect. I was there myself many years ago and know only too well what those lacks created -- the fear of failing to support my child. It saddens me still to think back on those times and for all the other women who are, or have been, in this situation. The stress of living like that was almost overwhelming at times, creating deep-seated anger and depression, and the resulting guilt for that.
Thankfully, for me, it never led to child abuse. But I can see how it would, which is horrible to contemplate. I still have nightmares about it actually.
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Sanicle wrote:Hi Nanu
Sorry, I didn't watch the video. Anything and hour long or more just makes me wince, especially when it appears to be full of dry old stats etc.
What I was responding to was what you said --------------------- "One shocked even me! 49% of all child abuse is perpetrated by the mother.... 22% by the father ..." and the title of the vid specifically relating to single Mums. I put the two together, maybe erroneously.
I can relate to single Mums who deal with a lack of support, a lack of funds, a lack of personal time and a lack of self respect. I was there myself many years ago and know only too well what those lacks created -- the fear of failing to support my child. It saddens me still to think back on those times and for all the other women who are, or have been, in this situation. The stress of living like that was almost overwhelming at times, creating deep-seated anger and depression, and the resulting guilt for that.
Thankfully, for me, it never led to child abuse. But I can see how it would, which is horrible to contemplate. I still have nightmares about it actually.
hey Sanicle , thank you for your response.
It shows great courage to share such things and i congratulate you on succeeding in a time of difficulty. I hope you know its not my intention to cause this for you or others. Truth be told we all suffer when this happens and its in sharing we have an opportunity to feel a part of something and grow together.
While the video is confronting and long but interestingly the narrator was brought up by a single mother himself , it gives a lot of information on how those who have been through this can help others.
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No worries Nanu. I know you wouldn't intentionally do or say anything to cause another pain. My apologies to you for posting a personal perspective into a thread in which you appear to be taking a logical overview of the male/female dynamics. I should have looked back further. 
I would say though that, IMO, these women/people who are being criticized are easy targets, No?, when they are still puppets to their emotions and survival drives, as we all are before we grow out of it. Having said that though, I don't doubt for a minute that you have compassion for them and their situations.
I would say though that, IMO, these women/people who are being criticized are easy targets, No?, when they are still puppets to their emotions and survival drives, as we all are before we grow out of it. Having said that though, I don't doubt for a minute that you have compassion for them and their situations.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6ONHDmDD8s
Why Women Have Totally Unrealistic Standards for Men, Dating, and Marriage
WARNING: Very raw and straight about what's going on out here. #matchmakeruncut
This is a worthwhile perspective from a woman who is a match maker who goes into the difference between men who are still boys and men who are ready to be a husband and father. Believe it or not this is not a political issue but a perception/expectation one and shows why so many women today are lonely and never happy.
Yes the video is 21 minutes long but is so very true as to what is not only holding many women back but also flat -WRONG- with the image-based society many have fallen into.
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Hey Carol , that has to be one of the top 5 videos ive seen , excellent ! thank you
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Great. I'm glad you liked it.
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Sanicle wrote:No worries Nanu. I know you wouldn't intentionally do or say anything to cause another pain. My apologies to you for posting a personal perspective into a thread in which you appear to be taking a logical overview of the male/female dynamics. I should have looked back further.
I would say though that, IMO, these women/people who are being criticized are easy targets, No?, when they are still puppets to their emotions and survival drives, as we all are before we grow out of it. Having said that though, I don't doubt for a minute that you have compassion for them and their situations.
Sanicle please do not apologise. Our personal perspectives are exactly what i was hoping for on this thread. Without it this thread is just a video depository.
And to elaborate on your second point.
Criticism is not only healthy but if done right , constructive. The video has a very analytical view supported by research and the trust that I believe the narrator to be exemplary in his methods ( if you're game enough to trust a weirdo that thinks he is R2D2 ). So what you have is data , bare bones data. Just cause and effect... We want to know what are the causes and the effects... from these we can create solutions.
and you are welcome to be part of any these process'.
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NANU wrote:We want to know what are the causes and the effects... from these we can create solutions.
I like your positivity Nanu
But I'm afraid I won't be much help there. I don't know how to rid people of unrealistic expectations and skewed, unfair perceptions. In my experience if you try to tell them you are labelled 'negative' and dismissed.I wish you luck
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I congratulate Cassie Jaye for the courage it took to make this video, women like her give us hope.
Please Enjoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WMuzhQXJoY
Please Enjoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WMuzhQXJoY
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Ironically we have 4 adult children. 3 boys, youngest is a girl (23). None are married. One has been married twice and living with his 3d. The other 3 are not in relationships nor likely to be. They do have some good close friendships - but that's it. it's a sign of the times for some families.
For me, it's sad as the family line will die out with this group of offspring. And not for lack of trying as the one who married twice ended up with wives who did NOT want children, hence the divorces.
For me, it's sad as the family line will die out with this group of offspring. And not for lack of trying as the one who married twice ended up with wives who did NOT want children, hence the divorces.
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What gets me is that many women are exhibiting the same behaviour they complained about in men ie aggressive, dominating, insensitive behaviour. 
That's how wars start -------- retaliating in a like manner as the original aggressor.
From what I've seen of the young girls in Oz, they are quite enjoying the power that comes with being the dominant gender, just like the men used to.
That's how wars start -------- retaliating in a like manner as the original aggressor.
From what I've seen of the young girls in Oz, they are quite enjoying the power that comes with being the dominant gender, just like the men used to.
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What I don't understand is that it seems to be ok to be a man hating feminist but not ok to be chauvinistic 
Seems like classic divided and conquer
Seems like classic divided and conquer
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From Google:
"A chauvinist is someone who blindly and enthusiastically believes in the superiority of his cause or people. ... The put-down “male chauvinist pig” describes a man who believes that women are not as intelligent or worthy of respect as men. Often when we hear the word chauvinist, we think of arrogant men."
I personally think there plenty of female chauvinists around these days and neither view is right. It's why I've avoided 'feminists' for years, but that's NOT to say that some of their causes, such as the way women are treated in some middle eastern countries where men truly are chauvinists, is not a very valid cause that should be fought by ALL, men and women.
Would you call yourself a chauvinist Swanny?
"A chauvinist is someone who blindly and enthusiastically believes in the superiority of his cause or people. ... The put-down “male chauvinist pig” describes a man who believes that women are not as intelligent or worthy of respect as men. Often when we hear the word chauvinist, we think of arrogant men."
I personally think there plenty of female chauvinists around these days and neither view is right. It's why I've avoided 'feminists' for years, but that's NOT to say that some of their causes, such as the way women are treated in some middle eastern countries where men truly are chauvinists, is not a very valid cause that should be fought by ALL, men and women.
Would you call yourself a chauvinist Swanny?
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Nope I'm not a chauvinist. I believe men and women are equal but very different each with different roles to play. Men are better at somethings and women are better at others..
I have motorbikes, some are built for the road and some are built for off road, each is great at what it does but not better than the other because of it, they could both do the same thing but won't be as good as the one that's built specially for it.
Male and female are meant to live in harmony and appreciate each others qualities not try to better each other.
I have motorbikes, some are built for the road and some are built for off road, each is great at what it does but not better than the other because of it, they could both do the same thing but won't be as good as the one that's built specially for it.
Male and female are meant to live in harmony and appreciate each others qualities not try to better each other.