So have you read this book?
I'm curious to see how many here have read that book. I started a topic about it back at PA1:
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?p=243570
Many in the conspiracy crowd probably heard of that book from John Todd, self-proclaimed high-level Illuminati defector, who was telling in his speeches (I think mostly to Christian fundamentalists in the USA) that Ayn Rand was Jacob Rothschild's mistress, and that Rothschild told to Ayn Rand about the Illuminati takeover plan and asked her to write a book, which became Atlas Shrugged, as a blueprint of that plan. More can be read here: http://www.henrymakow.com/witches_rule_illuminati_said_j.html and there are youtubes of Todd's speeches. Anyway this is after reading that article that I decided to take a look at Atlas Shrugged and read it. That book is so great. It took me a year to read it and I'm almost done. Only 100 pages to go, in a 1200 pages book. It became quickly irrelevant whether Ayn Rand was Rothschild's mistress or not, because this book speaks the truth. It's sad that a rumor casts this book as evil because it's exactly the opposite. The purpose of this book is to teach humans that they will free themselves from tyranny by exercising the power of their minds. That tyranny is possible only when people are not allowed, or don't want to think. How can such a book be evil? Tood's claim about that book is complete BS and the proof of that is the book itself. If anything, the book is about the defeat of the NWO by depriving it of creative minds, and therefore letting it lead itself to self-destruction. So I didn't really need Ayn Rand's answer about that rumor, but it's nice to get it anyway in this 1979 interview with her. Here is a link right at that moment of the interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VzdkXm5Ies&feature=PlayList&p=CD63BCE86EA89F8B&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1#t=4m30s
And here is the full interview:
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And also the thread I started at PA1 with a great excerpt from Atlas Shrugged:
I'm curious to see how many here have read that book. I started a topic about it back at PA1:
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?p=243570
Many in the conspiracy crowd probably heard of that book from John Todd, self-proclaimed high-level Illuminati defector, who was telling in his speeches (I think mostly to Christian fundamentalists in the USA) that Ayn Rand was Jacob Rothschild's mistress, and that Rothschild told to Ayn Rand about the Illuminati takeover plan and asked her to write a book, which became Atlas Shrugged, as a blueprint of that plan. More can be read here: http://www.henrymakow.com/witches_rule_illuminati_said_j.html and there are youtubes of Todd's speeches. Anyway this is after reading that article that I decided to take a look at Atlas Shrugged and read it. That book is so great. It took me a year to read it and I'm almost done. Only 100 pages to go, in a 1200 pages book. It became quickly irrelevant whether Ayn Rand was Rothschild's mistress or not, because this book speaks the truth. It's sad that a rumor casts this book as evil because it's exactly the opposite. The purpose of this book is to teach humans that they will free themselves from tyranny by exercising the power of their minds. That tyranny is possible only when people are not allowed, or don't want to think. How can such a book be evil? Tood's claim about that book is complete BS and the proof of that is the book itself. If anything, the book is about the defeat of the NWO by depriving it of creative minds, and therefore letting it lead itself to self-destruction. So I didn't really need Ayn Rand's answer about that rumor, but it's nice to get it anyway in this 1979 interview with her. Here is a link right at that moment of the interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VzdkXm5Ies&feature=PlayList&p=CD63BCE86EA89F8B&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1#t=4m30s
And here is the full interview:
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And also the thread I started at PA1 with a great excerpt from Atlas Shrugged:
Atlas Shrugged (1957) - D'Anconia on what money really is
Popularity of the book: "According to a 1991 survey by the Library of Congress
and the Book of the Month Club, Atlas Shrugged was second to the Bible
as the book that made most difference in American readers' lives. Modern
Library's 1998 three-month online poll of the 100 best novels of the
20th century found Atlas rated #1 although it was not included on the
list chosen by the Modern Library panel of authors and scholars. The
list was formed on 217,520 votes cast."
Alleged inspiration for the book: "[Illuminati] take-over plan involved economic breakdown
where even Illuminati companies went broke. They have the means to
survive such a catastrophe. He [Todd] says Phillip de Rothschild gave
the plan to his mistress Ayn Rand for her novel Atlas Shrugged."
Excerpt from Atlas Shrugged (1957) by Ayn Rand
[...]
Standing unnoticed on the edge of the group, Rearden heard a woman, who
had large diamond earrings and a flabby, nervous face, ask tensely,
"Senior d'Anconia, what do you think is going to happen to the world?"
"Just exactly what it deserves,"
"Oh, how cruel!"
"Don't you believe in the operation of the moral law, madame?" Francisco
asked gravely. "I do."
Rearden heard Bertram Scudder, outside the group, say to a girl who made
some sound of indignation, "Don't let him disturb you. You know, money
is the root of all evil—and he's the typical product of money."
Rearden did not think that Francisco could have heard it, but he saw
Francisco turning to them with a gravely courteous smile.
"So you think that money is the root of all evil?" said Francisco
d'Anconia. "Have you ever asked what is the root of money? Money is a
tool of exchange, which can't exist unless there are goods produced and
men able to produce them. Money is the material shape of the principle
that men who wish to deal with one another must deal by trade and give
value for value. Money is not the tool of the moochers, who claim your
product by tears, or of the looters, who take it from you by force.
Money is made possible only by the men who produce.
Is this what you consider evil?
"When you accept money in payment for your effort, you do so only on the
conviction that you will exchange it for the product of the effort of
others. It is not the moochers or the looters who give value to money.
Not an ocean of tears nor all the guns in the world can transform those
pieces of paper in your wallet into the bread you will need to survive
tomorrow. Those pieces of paper, which should have been gold, are a
token of honor—your claim upon the energy of the men who produce. Your
wallet is your statement of hope that somewhere in the world around you
there are men who will not default on that moral principle which is the
root of money. Is this what you consider evil?
"Have you ever looked for the root of production? Take a look at an
electric generator and dare tell yourself that it was created by the
muscular effort of unthinking brutes. Try to grow a seed of wheat
without the knowledge left to you by men who had to discover it for the
first time. Try to obtain your food by means of nothing but physical
motions—and you'll learn that man's mind is the root of all the goods
produced and of all the wealth that has ever existed on earth.
"But you say that money is made by the strong at the expense of the
weak? What strength do you mean? It is not the strength of guns or
muscles. Wealth is the product of man's capacity to think. Then is money
made by the man who invents a motor at the expense of those who did not
invent it? Is money made by the intelligent at the expense of the
fools? By the able at the expense of the incompetent? By the ambitious
at the expense of the lazy? Money is made—before it can be looted or
mooched—made by the effort of every honest man, each to the extent of
his ability. An honest man is one who knows that he can't consume more
than he has produced.
"To trade by means of money is the code of the men of good will.
Money rests on the axiom that every man is the owner of his mind and his
effort. Money allows no power to prescribe the value of your effort
except the voluntary choice of the man who is willing to trade you his
effort in return. Money permits you to obtain for your goods and your
labor that which they are worth to the men who buy them, but no more.
Money permits no deals except those to mutual benefit by the unforced
judgment of the traders. Money demands of you the recognition that men
must work for their own benefit, not for their own injury, for their
gain, not their loss—the recognition that they are not beasts of burden,
born to carry the weight of your misery—that you must offer them
values, not wounds—that the common bond among men is not the exchange of
suffering, but the exchange of goods.
Money demands that you sell, not your weakness to men's stupidity, but
your talent to their reason; it demands that you buy, not the shoddiest
they offer, but the best that your money can find. And when men live by
trade—with reason, not force, as their final arbiter—it is the best
product that wins, the best performance, the man of best judgment and
highest ability—and the degree of a man's productiveness is the degree
of his reward. This is the code of existence whose tool and symbol is
money. Is this what you consider evil?
"But money is only a tool. It will take you wherever you wish, but it
will not replace you as the driver. It will give you the means for the
satisfaction of your desires, but it will not provide you with desires.
Money is the scourge of the men who attempt to reverse the law of
causality—the men who seek to replace the mind by seizing the products
of the mind.
"Money will not purchase happiness for the man who has no concept of
what he wants: money will not give him a code of values, if he's evaded
the knowledge of what to value, and it will not provide him with a
purpose, if he's evaded the choke of what to seek. Money will not buy
intelligence for the fool, or admiration for the coward, or respect for
the incompetent. The man who attempts to purchase the brains of his
superiors to serve him, with his money replacing his judgment, ends up
by becoming the victim of his inferiors. The men of intelligence desert
him, but the cheats and the frauds come flocking to him, drawn by a law
which he has not discovered: that no man may be smaller than his money.
Is this the reason why you call it evil?
"Only the man who does not need it, is fit to inherit wealth—the man who
would make his own fortune no matter where he started. If an heir is
equal to his money, it serves him; if not, it destroys him.
But you look on and you cry that money corrupted him. Did it? Or did he
corrupt his money? Do not envy a worthless heir; his wealth is not yours
and you would have done no better with it. Do not think that it should
have been distributed among you; loading the world with fifty parasites
instead of one, would not bring back the dead virtue which was the
fortune. Money is a living power that dies without its root. Money will
not serve the mind that cannot match it. Is this the reason why you call
it evil?
"Money is your means of survival. The verdict you pronounce upon the
source of your livelihood is the verdict you pronounce upon your life.
If the source is corrupt, you have damned your own existence. Did you
get your money by fraud? By pandering to men's vices or men's stupidity?
By catering to fools, in the hope of getting more than your ability
deserves? By lowering your standards? By doing work you despise for
purchasers you scorn? If so, then your money will not give you a
moment's or a penny's worth of joy. Then all the things you buy will
become, not a tribute to you, but a reproach; not an achievement, but a
reminder of shame. Then you'll scream that money is evil. Evil, because
it would not pinch-hit for your self-respect? Evil, because it would not
let you enjoy your depravity? Is this the root of your hatred of money?
"Money will always remain an effect and refuse to replace you as the
cause. Money is the product of virtue, but it will not give you virtue
and it will not redeem your vices. Money will not give you the unearned,
neither in matter nor in spirit. Is this the root of your hatred of
money?
"Or did you say it's the love of money that's the root of all evil?
To love a thing is to know and love its nature. To love money is to know
and love the fact that money is the creation of the best power within
you, and your passkey to trade your effort for the effort of the best
among men. It's the person who would sell his soul for a nickel, who is
loudest in proclaiming his hatred of money—and he has good reason to
hate it. The lovers of money are willing to work for it.
They know they are able to deserve it.
"Let me give you a tip on a clue to men's characters: the man who damns
money has obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it has earned
it.
"Run for your life from any man who tells you that money is evil.
That sentence is the leper's bell of an approaching looter. So long as
men live together on earth and need means to deal with one another their
only substitute, if they abandon money, is the muzzle of a gun.
"But money demands of you the highest virtues, if you wish to make it or
to keep it. Men who have no courage, pride or self-esteem, men who have
no moral sense of their right to their money and are not willing to
defend it as they defend their life, men who apologize for being
rich—will not remain rich for long. They are the natural bait for the
swarms of looters that stay under rocks for centuries, but come crawling
out at the first smell of a man who begs to be forgiven for the guilt
of owning wealth. They will hasten to relieve him of the guilt and of
his life, as he deserves.
"Then you will see the rise of the men of the double standard—the men
who live by force, yet count on those who live by trade to create the
value of their looted money—the men who are the hitchhikers of virtue.
In a moral society, these are the criminals, and the statutes are
written to protect you against them. But when a society establishes
criminals-by-right and looters-by-law—men who use force to seize the
wealth of disarmed victims—then money becomes its creators' avenger.
Such looters believe it safe to rob defenseless men, once they've passed
a law to disarm them. But their loot becomes the magnet for other
looters, who get it from them as they got it. Then the race goes, not to
the ablest at production, but to those most ruthless at brutality. When
force is the standard, the murderer wins over the pickpocket. And then
that society vanishes, in a spread of ruins and slaughter.
"Do you wish to know whether that day is coming? Watch money.
Money is the barometer of a society's virtue. When you see that trading
is done, not by consent, but by compulsion—when you see that in order to
produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce
nothing—when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in
goods, but in favors—when you see that men get richer by graft and by
pull than by work, and your laws don't protect you against them, but
protect them against you—when you see corruption being rewarded and
honesty becoming a self-sacrifice—you may know that your society is
doomed. Money is so noble a medium that it does not compete with guns
and it does not make terms with brutality.
It will not permit a country to survive as half-property, half-loot.
"Whenever destroyers appear among men, they start by destroying money,
for money is men's protection and the base of a moral existence.
Destroyers seize gold and leave to its owners a counterfeit pile of
paper. This kills all objective standards and delivers men into the
arbitrary power of an arbitrary setter of values. Gold was an objective
value, an equivalent of wealth produced. Paper is a mortgage on wealth
that does not exist, backed by a gun aimed at those who are expected to
"produce it. Paper is a check drawn by legal looters upon an account
which is not theirs: upon the virtue of the victims. Watch for the day
when it bounces, marked: 'Account overdrawn.'
"When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to
remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for
the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to
produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask,
'Who is destroying the world?' You are.
"You stand in the midst of the greatest achievements of the greatest
productive civilization and you wonder why it's crumbling around you,
while you're damning its life-blood—-money. You look upon money as the
savages did before you, and you wonder why the jungle is creeping back
to the edge of your cities. Throughout men's history, money was always
seized by looters of one brand or another, whose names changed, but
whose method remained the same: to seize wealth by force and to keep the
producers bound, demeaned, defamed, deprived of honor. That phrase
about the evil of money, which you mouth with such righteous
recklessness, comes from a time when wealth was produced by the labor of
slaves—slaves who repeated the motions once discovered by somebody's
mind and left unimproved for centuries. So long as production was ruled
by force, and wealth was obtained by conquest, there was little to
conquer. Yet through all the centuries of stagnation and starvation, men
exalted the looters, as aristocrats of the sword, as aristocrats of
birth, as aristocrats of the bureau, and despised the producers, as
slaves, as traders, as shopkeepers—as industrialists.
"To the glory of mankind, there was, for the first and only time in
history, a country of money—and I have no higher, more reverent tribute
to pay to America, for this means: a country of reason, justice,
freedom, production, achievement. For the first time, man's mind and
money were set free, and there were no fortunes-by-conquest, but only
fortunes-by-work, and instead of swordsmen and slaves, there appeared
the real maker of wealth, the greatest worker, the highest type of human
being—the self-made man—the American industrialist.
"If you ask me to name the proudest distinction of Americans, I would
choose—because it contains all the others—the fact that they were the
people who created the phrase 'to make money.’ No other language or
nation had ever used these words before; men had always thought of
wealth as a static quantity—to be seized, begged, inherited, shared,
looted or obtained as a favor. Americans were the first to understand
that wealth has to be created. The words 'to make money' hold the
essence of human morality.
"Yet these were the words for which Americans were denounced by the
rotted cultures of the looters' continents. Now the looters' credo has
brought you to regard your proudest achievements as a hallmark of shame,
your prosperity as guilt, your greatest men, the industrialists, as
blackguards, and your magnificent factories as the product and property
of muscular labor, the labor of whip-driven slaves, like the pyramids of
Egypt. The rotter who simpers that he sees no difference between the
power of the dollar and the power of the whip, ought to learn the
difference on his own hide—as, I think, he will.
"Until and unless you discover that money is the root of all good, you
ask for your own destruction. When money ceases to be the tool by which
men deal with one another, then men become the tools of men. Blood,
whips and guns—or dollars. Take your choice—there is no other—and your
time is running out."
Francisco had not glanced at Rearden once while speaking; but the moment
he finished, his eyes went straight to Rearden's face. Rearden stood
motionless, seeing nothing but Francisco d'Anconia across the moving
figures and angry voices between them.