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    Post  Aquaries1111 Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:18 pm

    orthodoxymoron wrote:Thank-you Earheart. I comprehend approximately 19.7% of your posting -- but that 19.7% is of great value. I continue to wonder what a Vatican-Based Namaste-Constitutional-Responsible-Freedom United States of the Solar System might look like!! What might they say in Orion??!! I realize this is playing with burning-magnesium -- and that I am a completely ignorant fool. Bad Combination!! But Siriusly, can you imagine daily Congressional and Senatorial Sessions in the large glass-roofed building next to St. Peter's??!! Can you imagine the American System with the Panache of the Roman System??!! I have no idea how such a thing might be accomplished -- or even if it would really work. I simply do not have the resources to properly model such a thing -- and I do not have a limitless supply of uncorrupted information relative to solar system governance and galactic governance. This is simply a preliminary test. This is only a test. What REALLY worries me is the thought that the Nasty Hidden Factions will ALWAYS exist -- no matter what solar system exists -- and that they will ALWAYS raise hell and screw things up. Once again, please take this thread as a whole -- or not at all -- and researcher beware. Here's another perspective to muddy the waters:
    Aquaries1111 wrote:SO WHAT SHOULD ALL OF THIS SUNWORSHIP MEAN TO ME A CHRISTIAN TODAY?
    Really, a better question would be to ask: "What did these sungods and dying/rising gods mean to these who heard these stories and these "theologies" thousands of years ago"? Yes, that is the question and the answers fill the questions that we have as Christians and followers of "the Christ" since the "Jesus Story" is so alike all these other solar gods why likewise "died and rose again 3 days later".
    The First New Testament: The Historical Jesus Or The Christ Of Faith....Which Is It?
    The Truth About Early Christianity And The Roman Coverup
    Now we must learn a bunch from another website dealing with these early "Chrestians" or Christians as we call them today. We must deal with the Gnostic understanding of all we learned in Egyptian studies and all we learned in the Astrotheology studies and see how this was modeled in the lives and beliefs of these earliest "Gnostic Chrestians". For that we must go to another site for this information; ironically a site dealing with the true First New Testament which we don't have in our churches today.
    But before we go I need to help you make sense out of why this Astrotheology and personifications of the Sun and its path through the Cosmos was so important to the Spiritual Masters of yesterday. For that we need to understand correctly how these ancient people looked as these similar "sungods" and "sungod stories" which mimic our "Jesus Story" today.
    Answer for yourself: Did the Ancients understand these "sungods" as if "literal-historical"? How should we make comparisons to an "assumed literal-historical Jesus"? What is behind all of these representations of these "sungods"? Were all the Ancients going to hell according to Christian doctrine? Is there a common thread and hidden link we have missed between all of the above "gods"? Were all of these "sungods" nothing more than allegories and symbols for a deeper "spiritual reality" that escapes us today? Could it be that the Ancients understood all of these above "pagan gods and goddesses" as allegories for the Divine Energy and Soul within all mankind and we not know it?
    Let us see if our whole Christian perspective on these "sungods" has been wrong from the traditional Christian perspective. What is the implication for the "Jesus Story" since it parallels completely these other stories of these "sungods"? Do we dare rethink the "literal-historical" interpretation of "the Christ"? Were the Christian Gnostics right about "the Christ" and Rome wrong and have we believed a Roman lie and forged documents about this whole thing and could our Christian understanding of "the true Jewish Messiah" be incorrect? What a study. The truth is out there in these links to help the evidence mount to prove our points but first let us understand the deep spiritual insights behind these Ancient sungods which are forerunners of the later "Jesus Story".
    How Did The Ancients View These Sungods And The Spiritual Implication For The Christian Today #1
    How Did The Ancients View These Sungods And The Spiritual Implication For The Christian Today #2
    How Did The Ancients View These Sungods And The Spiritual Implication For The Christian Today #3
    If you have studied our Egypt-Christian website as well as this Jesus-Astrotheology site then now you know why throughout all our websites that we advise that the Christian seriously look into Judaism for it is the living link today with these Ancient Truths found originally in the first religion of mankind, the Egyptian religion. Through Judaism today and their Torah we have made available to us today, the non-Jew, the most proper way for us to continually develop, mature, and perfect our Soul without being encumbered by the idolatry inherent in the Christology of Roman Christianity due to their falsification of these Ancient Religions texts where they "literalized" the Ancient Divine Allegorical Truths first given to mankind in the beginning of time and in so doing gave the world a false salvation message and destroyed the Spiritual Truth of the "Christ Within".
    Recover "The Faith Once Given To The Saints" Which Has Been Perverted By Gentile Christianity And Their "Literal" and "Historical" Interpretation of the Sacred Texts

    OTHER WEBSITES #1 & WEBSITES #2 TO HELP IN YOUR STUDY AND RECOVERY OF LOST TRUTH
    If you so desire Bet Emet Ministries offers a comprehensive CD of all of our Websites. with a "study plan" to assure your proper Spiritual progress in such in-depth studies...just click on this link for the details.
    In our CD of all out websites contained on one disk we provide a "study plan" for the student and give detailed instructions as how to study these websites "in order" to facilitate one's study. Please inquire for the CD for such through study will take you some time if you ever hope of cracking the "Jesus Puzzle" and coming to the answer of the question:
    "Who do men say I am?".

    Bet Emet Ministries
    Rev. Craig Lyons Ms.D., D.D., M.Div.
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    http://astrotheology.weebly.com/
    I continue to lean toward an Archangelicentric Approach to the History of Theology and Mythology. Don't stop thinking about Archangels, Reincarnation, Ancient-Technology, and Genetic-Engineering. Consider the 1788 Federalist Papers, the 1898 Desire of Ages, the 1928 Book of Common Prayer, the 1962 Missal, and all of the Sacred Classical Music -- in the Context of the Great Controversy (the Conflict of the Ages) Between Christ and Satan in Ancient Babylon, Egypt, Greece, and Rome. Think About It!!!

    1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5Y2B55nKZY&feature=fvwrel
    2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3217H8JppI&feature=related
    3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-tipS-fA5A&feature=related

    Very good.. You are progressing to new levels Oxy.. but your perspective need not be in the muddying of waters but in the clarity of waters. Ask and you shall receive!
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    Post  Aquaries1111 Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:47 pm

    orthodoxymoron wrote:A1, I'd be very surprised if all I was missing was the "t"...

    Well do you not think Oxy it bee polite to call Ear(t)heart Eartheart instead of Earheart? Just saying.. You do not miss much.. and neither do Eye!
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    Post  Aquaries1111 Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:03 pm

    Aquaries1111 wrote:
    orthodoxymoron wrote:A1, I'd be very surprised if all I was missing was the "t"...

    Well do you not think Oxy it bee polite to call Ear(t)heart Eartheart instead of Earheart? Just saying.. You do not miss much.. and neither do Eye!

    I'm sorry for being so meticulous in names.. it's just that Tony Blue posing as Olivia Brandis would deliberately spell Aquaries as Aquarius to piss me off (in back scene skype chats) and so.. I say.. It's important to at least spell "names correctly".. If always A1, always A1, when changes.. suspicions do indeed arise.. Just saying... All good!
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    Post  orthodoxymoron Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:17 pm

    A1, words in my posts mysteriously undergo spelling changes without me making them -- on a daily basis. Sometimes a word is changed into another word -- I kid you not. Whether this is part of a computer program conneceted with this site -- or a nefarious-entity from the nether-realms -- I know not.
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    Post  Aquaries1111 Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:33 pm

    Listen, it does not matter

    We have bigger mysteries to solve.

    Most of Rev. Craig Lyons links are not to be found.. You know this now? I hope you can research Oxy, what you were given then.. Not everything will always be available "now"... Time Jumpers are jumping and Time Keepers are Keeping.
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    Post  orthodoxymoron Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:41 pm

    A1, I continue to be interested in the work of Gerald Massey, Ralph Ellis, and our very own Brook -- regarding Christology and Egyptology. However, I seem to have an ongoing mental block connected with this. I can only take-in so much at a time. It's too overwhelming for me -- and I start to get Spiritual-Vertigo...
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    Post  Aquaries1111 Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:43 pm

    and who am I Oxy, well....

    "I am invisible".. an O positive now.. an O negative then.. what does that mean? You figure it out.. WE are in disguise.. ET's as O Positive in the "majority" now who would "fathom that" when they are looking for O Negatives.. Well I tell you this.. Nothing is set in stone.. remember? DNA can change and so can blood types... yep it happened to me.. O Negative turned O Positive but I won't explain it's not important.. Rev. Craig Lyons is important to you... research that path.. and find more clues.. ripleys!
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    Post  orthodoxymoron Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:43 pm

    A1, this information seems to be very important -- yet I never know what to believe or disbelieve.


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    Post  Aquaries1111 Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:45 pm

    Aquaries1111 wrote:and who am I Oxy, well....

    "I am invisible".. an O positive now.. an O negative then.. what does that mean? You figure it out.. WE are in disguise.. ET's as O Positive in the "majority" now who would "fathom that" when they are looking for O Negatives.. Well I tell you this.. Nothing is set in stone.. remember? DNA can change and so can blood types... yep it happened to me.. O Negative turned O Positive but I won't explain it's not important.. Rev. Craig Lyons is important to you... research that path.. and find more clues.. ripleys!
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    Post  Aquaries1111 Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:02 pm

    orthodoxymoron wrote:A1, I continue to be interested in the work of Gerald Massey, Ralph Ellis, and our very own Brook -- regarding Christology and Egyptology. However, I seem to have an ongoing mental block connected with this. I can only take-in so much at a time. It's too overwhelming for me -- and I start to get Spiritual-Vertigo...

    Hmm Yes I would like to see Brook back here.. I hope she was NOT banned.. I know LionHawk was but never mind.. Brook please login and see if you can at least participate here...

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    Post  orthodoxymoron Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:24 pm

    Here is another link to Craig Lyons material. http://christianityasamysteryreligion.com/personification_sun_worlds_religions.htm I couldn't find a You Tube video or a picture of Rev. Lyons. This seemed a bit strange. Will Astrotheology destroy Christianity -- or will it strengthen Christianity by adding a new dimension to it?? Whatever the case may be, I sense that a lot of people are going to lose their faith -- and perhaps even lose their minds -- in connection with this Spiritual Infowar. Are we dealing with a battle between Isis and Ra -- with Moses and Aaron caught in the middle??? Or, are we dealing with a conspiracy against humanity by Isis, Ra, Moses, and Aaron??? Is the Christ (by whatever name or era) a rebel against the abuse of humanity?? I keep catching fleeting-glimpses of the truth -- but I can never seem to pin anything of substance down with satisfying finality. Here is a reading-list relative to astrotheology. http://astrotheology.weebly.com/recommended-reading.html So many books. So little time. Besides, one can get bogged-down in an isolated area of research -- and begin to lose touch with reality and sanity -- which is why I recommend a multi-disciplinary approach -- with lots of music and humor. I continue to think that working outward from the word 'RESPONSIBILITY' in all disciplines might be an excellent place to begin. Try reading through a dictionary while thinking about the word 'RESPONSIBILITY'. I wish I had the time, energy, and intellect to practice what I preach. I am a blatant hypocrite. I admit it. So sue me or burn me -- but please don't ban me or chip me.


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    Post  Aquaries1111 Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:34 pm

    Yes Oxy,

    A lot of people are going to "lose their minds".... We cannot judge.. Each had their pleasures and their lusts and relished in the submissions... Time for us to pave the way... with our minds "intact"... Always!
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    Post  orthodoxymoron Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:47 pm

    I think that a lot of 'innocent' people are going to get hurt badly in connection with all of this. I think that the evolution of information could've been handled in a much more responsible manner. I don't have a problem with information and technology -- but both must be properly introduced and managed. Check out this multi-part interview with Acharya S. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbjJQfN9vY0&feature=relmfu I continue to think that there is some merit to studying this particular thread -- with all of its diversity, speculation, imagery, and craziness. There really is a method to my madness...
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    Post  Aquaries1111 Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:06 am

    Thanks for the link Oxy...

    As far as my own "order" I was not brought up with a religion... My grandmother however was a Jehovah's Witness and as a very young teenager I would attend her bibical seminars.. the main one in particular took place in Edinburgh and when the passing of the wine was coming forth my Grandmother said to me "do not drink the wine"... well of course since that day I had my radars up.. No I did not drink the wine though I wanted to.. does this make me one of the 144,000 lol... No of course not.. I am always myself becoming...

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    Post  orthodoxymoron Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:10 am

    I have been attempting to positively-reinforce the basic liturgical-form used by most Christians -- but I continue to have huge problems with the ritual human sacrificial and cannibalistic aspects -- and I'm not quite sure how to properly deal with this perceived problem. I seem to keep attempting to pour new-wine into old-wineskins by combining the Traditional Latin Mass with the 1928 Book of Common Prayer -- Interpreted by the Desire of Ages -- with Massive-Doses of Sacred Classical Music -- but I'm not sure that this is working. I keep getting a sick and sinking feeling in connection with all of this. Perhaps my attempted synthesis is simply a preliminary exercise which might lead to a satisfying solution. I truly wish to be as historical as possible -- while being completely honest as I continue to face legion brutal gangs of facts. Those bastards!!


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    Post  Aquaries1111 Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:16 am

    I really think you need to stop torturing yourself... Guess what Oxy, this may disturb you... I have been in "training" on "how to die".... Yep... I want to die consciously in tact... forget what you think you know.. decide upon how you will die.. and set with yourself your agreements in the death department.. I do not intend to come across as morbid but this is the key here... Not to get stuck in answers per se but to consciously prepare ourselves how we will die... Simple.. we all will do it one day.. who is prepared and who is not?





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    Post  Aquaries1111 Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:51 am

    WHAT ARE WE TO DO WITH THIS "JESUS CHRIST"?
    MY THOUGHTS ON JESUS AFTER 20 YEARS OF STUDY #1

    Greetings and welcome to Bet Emet Ministries. My name is Craig Lyons and I am at present a "resigned" Pastor of the Christian faith. There are many reasons for this resignation from the Christian Ministry in my life following Seminary and eight years of a very successful ministry and it is to these issues we must turn since you asked either to be added to the teaching ministry of Bet Emet Ministries or are a reader of one of many of our ministry's websites. So often when surfing the Internet people find one of our Websites and get confused when beginning in the "middle" so to speak in the study of the "Jesus Story". Bet Emet's Websites are intended to be a "Spiritual Pilgrimage" in ones study of "the Christ"; moving from the assumed Historical Jesus Christ to the Mystical Jesus Christ and finally to the Mythical Jesus Christ.
    Answer for yourself: What can I expect to learn if I study through and read through this Website on Astrotheology as well as study other Websites created by Bet Emet Ministries?

    You, the reader, will come to see that there are 3 different "Jesus" that we encounter down through these last 2000 years of recorded history. Only two of them are true; one is false. That is why I decided to create a "summary" of Bet Emet's views on "the Christ" from beginning to end. It will take several articles to do this but I felt this is necessary with our multiple Websites that now exist on the Web and in so doing I plan on prefacing each Website in time with these articles to let the reader know just where he is "jumping in" with his studies of "the Christ" as explained on the Website which he is reading and studying presently.

    Needless to say it is not easy to teach the revelation of "the Christ" in only one Website as it has come down to us over these last thousands of years of history beginning with Egypt over 13,000 years ago until the present time in which we live. So we did not even try to do this in just one Website for that was impossible but we did try over these years to lay out the successive progression and evolution of the understanding of ideas concerning "the Christ" down through history. This "Christ" goes by different names in different cultures but few see this until they advance greatly in their studies. It took me a while to see this as well.

    The study of "the Christ" reveals that this "Spiritual Concept" began with an Egyptian "Karast" and ended with a Christian "Jesus Christ". The problem for the student is how to interpret this "Jesus Christ" and the "Jesus Story" that we have inherited today and in so doing determine if it has maintained its integrity down through these successive millennia as understood by the Ancients who first gave us these Spiritual Concepts in the first place.
    Needless to say it has not.

    Being a Pastor and seeing this for myself stirred my heart that I feel motivated to inform others of this deception and this not only led to my resignation from my Pastorate but would further lead to the birth of Bet Emet Ministries where this information could be made available to the concerned students and seekers of truth about the true origins of the Christian Faith. Let me prepare you for what is coming in these 3 summary articles. First of all we must get acquainted with a summary statement of the very core of all 13 of our Websites and their message. Therefore it is necessary for the seeker of truth to understand up front that "the study of the origins of the Christian Faith and the "Jesus Story" is not always easy and untroublesome especially in light of what you often uncover when your studies get rather deep into this area". No truer words have ever been spoken.

    I believe with all my heart that since you desire to learn about the Jewish Roots of the Christian Faith and all that entails and or asked to receive our teaching articles and materials then you need to understand completely what you will be shown in the studies that are forthcoming. Bet Emet will PROVE to you beyond any doubt over our websites that as Gentile Christians today we have inherited unknowingly a false faith and a replacement religion that has little in common with the true faith of the earliest "Christians" who followed "the Christ". You will come to see the gigantic difference between Ancient understanding of "the Christ", the "Joshua-Jesus" and the "Jesus Christ" as depicted in our current New Testament in today's Christian Bible. That will become tragically clear as you begin your serious personal study of our sites as you progress from an assumed Historical Jesus Christ to the Mystical Jesus Christ and finally to the Mythical Jesus Christ.
    The Rabbis teach that "Study is the highest for of worship of God".

    I guess the above statement from first century Judaism says it all; namely because there is much to learn, uncover, unlearn, repent of, and accept anew in light of newly acquired factual knowledge from our studies. This hopefully will benefit each seeker of truth to live before God in the light of what he has learned from this newly acquired knowledge that we at Bet Emet share with the reader. This will all become clearer as you read our articles and study our Websites. As I tell everyone due to the challenging nature of what we teach: "Don't believe anything we teach...but let it provoke your own study to find the same things we did over the years of our serious study into the roots of our Christian faith."

    We offer a recommended reading list to each concerned student to help direct him in his studies. We also have available all of our Ministry's Websites on one CD to make it easier for one to do these studies. Email us for details.

    Over these last 18 years I guess you could say I have studied well near a thousand books or so and have two rooms in my home converted to libraries. Such is the level of my study and desire to arrive at the truth behind the "Jesus Story" and the religious synthesis and "puzzle" portrayed in the New Testament. I have been fortunate enough to have traced down books written in the 1700's in my pursuit of these Ancient truths about the Christian Faith and "the Christ". I wanted to know the truth behind my Christian Faith before I die having been enlightened in Seminary that there were many "problems" under the surface of his "Sunday and Christianity's Orthodoxy". Understand that most readers will be like me having grown up in Christianity since childhood. That being the case we fall prey to the same fallacy; namely, blindly accepting and assuming that our faith, the Christian Faith and the Christian Bible is the only way to God let alone to Heaven. With such conditioning Sunday to Sunday we end up innocently reinforcing prior sermons and teachings concerning the New Testament's depiction of Jesus as a "literal-historical" person never realizing what really lays behind such a depiction. We never have an inkling to study this out for ourselves because for one thing it never dawns upon us that we could be wrong for after all we all have inherited what we assumed to be an "infallible, inspired, inerrant" New Testament. We just assume we have the truth today because our Spiritual Authorities have repeatedly told us that we "are right" while all others are "wrong" and in need of Christian salvation. Until a few years ago few if any Christians every studied the origins of their birth faith to the degree necessary to spot the problems inherent with the "Jesus Story". The Internet today is changing that as well as casual trips to a Barnes and Noble Book Store in your area where you look through the religious sections.

    It was during my 3 years in Seminary from 1985-1988, in obtaining my Masters of Divinity degree, that I came first face to face with the irregularities and contradictions within the "Jesus Story". I was shocked to hear what my Pastor never taught me or possibly never knew. Knowing that "God is not the author of confusion" then I had to know who was responsible for this "Swiss cheese" theology. That is what I call it for it fits the problem well. This was the beginning of my life-time quest for truth about God and His "Christ". This hunger for truth would shape the rest of my life and studies and does so up to this very day. Let me say that in my increasing depth of study over time in my pilgrimage of investigation into the "Jesus Story", I, as an Ordained Pastor of a mega-church in Dallas, Texas, experienced the full gamut of emotions possible: tears, heartbreak, grief, anguish, anger, indignation, confusion, sadness, depression, etc. It was only with great courage and continued study on my part through this dark past of Christianity and its distortion of Ancient History and Ancient Religious Antiquity did I eventually come to the joy of my salvation which only came when I discovered the beauty and truth of Biblical Judaism and it strong historical links with the first Monotheistic nation in this world; namely, Ancient Egypt.

    Having graduated Seminary and realizing that I was given nothing to further my understanding of a "Jewish Jesus" while there I set out to discover and restore the Jewish Roots of my Christian Faith. That was my first step. I reasoned that since Seminary had not taught me a "Jewish Jesus" then I would find him on my own. I never dreamed the shock that would be coming my way by such intense study into these areas over the next 5 years. I began a serious study of Biblical Judaism that lasted about 4-5 years and in so doing found that such study presented me with multiple roads for later study that led elsewhere and these were, due to time restraints, allotted to a future day for their consideration and investigation as time restraints in a full-time Ministry would permit. As the years passed I finally found the necessary time to travel these roads of enlightenment and in was in these other vistas of study that my eyes were really opened like never before to the deceptions inherent in the "Jesus Story" which I had inherited since childhood.

    My almost 20 years of study and discovery has motivated me to develop numerous websites containing the fruit of my research and study that I, as an Ordained Pastor, felt the normative Christian believer should want to know if given the chance. I remember that during my Pastorate I often asked my students: "Do you want to know the truth before you die?" An affirmative answer on my part led me to develop with God's help over these last few years a series of "thematic" studies that found expression in various Websites on the Internet.

    My study was a progressive one to say the least, for after all it takes time for a seed to grow and yours will be as well. These websites chronicle for the student the progressive revelation that I received in my studies that led me from an assumed "Historical Jesus" to the "Mystical Christ" and finally to the "Mythical Christ". You might say that there are 3 different understandings of "Jesus Christs", or the Egyptian "Karast", down through recorded History and if you undertake such a personal study you will find that only 2 of them are real and the other the product of a gross deception and a masterful and purposeful misinterpretation of the prior two. More on that as we progress in this article.


    BELIEVING IN JESUS?
    Like most of those who read my articles I assume that like me you grew up as a Christian or else you would not be interested in Jesus Christ. I grew up as a Christian and that being so was taught to "believe in Jesus." I grew up taught to "believe the New Testament" from start to finish. I entered Seminary with such a background and as a "believer in Jesus". At that time in my life, devoid of any serious scholarly study into the "Jesus Story" or the Bible, I did not have a doubt in the world that my birth faith was not the ultimate truth in the world about the Creator and the Jewish Messiah. Through all the early years of my study following Seminary where I would be challenged to my very core by what I was uncovering in my search for a "Jewish Jesus" and seeing the hidden fruits of my studies I desperately wanted to continue to "believe in Jesus" and find some authentic evidence that would allow me to continue to believe in the "Historical Jesus" as depicted in the New Testament. But all I had was this one book from Rome, the New Testament, and my intense studies into Manuscript Evidences and Canonization of the New Testament was revealing to me that this book, the New Testament, is highly unreliable as a truthful depiction of not only the Jewish Messiah but "the Christ" as well. Purposeful manipulations, purposeful misquotations of the Hebrew Scriptures, purposeful mistranslations of the Hebrew Scriptures, using the Hebrew Scriptures out of context, and outright Scriptural invention of assumed prophecies in the New Testament was revealing to me that my New Testament was a forgery and a fraud. It was not accurate to the prior Hebrew in hundreds of places and few know of this unless they do comparative studies between the Hebrew, Greek, and English texts. Surely, I thought, that somewhere there is something that exists outside of this one forged book that will be the proof I so desperately sought that would finally reveal to me that Jesus of Nazareth is a real person behind the pages of my New Testament. As my studies accelerated because of what I was uncovering I was face to face with the facts of archeology, manuscript evidences, and modern scholarship from numerous scholars today that showed me the existence of hundreds of purposeful forgeries of religious texts in the New Testament concerning the "Jesus Story" but yet I clung to the hope that my Jesus is real and the soon coming Messiah of Israel. I reasoned: "So what; the book was forged by Rome". But I clung to the hope that my Jesus was real despite a Roman forgery of the Jewish Scriptures. But that was the early years when my studies were confined to Biblical Judaism and comparison of the texts from the Dead Sea Scrolls with the Greek Septuagint (LXX) and later English Old and New Testament translations. I can remember during these times and during these studies into the LXX, the Greek translation of the earlier Hebrew Scriptures which were translated in Alexandria, Africa, my first introductions into African Hermeticism and Gnosticism along with African Mythology. Just beginning to scratch the surface of these "theological rabbits" during that time I remember how scared I was at what I was reading and beginning to find and much of it literally took my breath away when I first began to look into Comparative Religions and Solar Mythology. It was in this time of my studies when beginning to study Comparative Religions with the Solar and Lunar Mythology of Egypt and later nations which taught the same things where I first saw the origins of the "Jesus Story" existing as far back as 13,000 B.C.E. I was mortified and after a short while put "these studies" on the shelf not wishing to go into these subject matters at the depth necessary at that time for fear of what I knew I would find. Still clinging to my Jesus you might say I was afraid to look into this. These studies would have to wait for another day. But that day came sooner than I ever expected. God has a way of leading you through the valley of the shadow of death; even when it involves simple study of the New Testament and the fear of the unknown.

    So the time came for me to seriously embark upon these studies into Comparative Religions and Egyptian Solar and Lunar Mythology having put them down for about a year in which I turned to a much safer study of the "Jesus Story". But God would tug at my heart over and over to continue to go deeper into the study of the "Jesus Story". After about the first 4-5 years of study when everything was non-threatening when looking only at a "Jesus Jesus" and the Jewish faith and the Jewish ideas of the Messiah I felt safe and I could at that time reason that the texts were forged because the Gentiles wished to change the Jewish concepts of the Messiah.But all the while I felt the strong attraction to begin a serious study of African and Egyptian Religion as well as Gnosticism and it is there that I began to see the "Mystical Christ Within" of which the authentic Paul and his 7 epistles talks about. I decided that I would tackle Gnosticism first. It was in these beginning stages of my deeper study of "Gnosticism" that I began to find the reason for all the forgeries of the New Testament texts that I had found before and even the replacement of the "First Gnostic New Testament" with the "Second New Testament" of Rome which "literalized" this "Gnostic Christ within". These forgeries of New Testament texts were not only necessary to provide a Replacement Religion against Biblical Judaism but were also necessary to destroy the "Gnostic Christ Within" which I discovered was the belief of the earliest Christians which modern scholarship will today attest NEVER believed in a "Christ with flesh". In such studies dealing with the comparison of the Hebrew Tanakh with later quotes in the New Testament along with Gnostic Christianity I discovered the most unbelievable deception known to man; namely, the outright and blatant forgery of the New Testament along with the earlier purposeful mistranslation of the Hebrew Scriptures, the purposeful mistranslation and misquotation of the Hebrew Scriptures when quoted in the New Testament along with the outright purposeful invention of others in order to present a "fleshly Christ" instead of the "Mystical Christ within". This was done mind you to undermine and destroy the Gnostic opponents of Roman "literal" Christianity which was beginning to emerge after the first century. Rome, having not the "gnosis" to properly understand the "Gnostic Christ" nor the Egyptian "Karast" created a replacement religion that reinterpreted and destroyed the Ancient understandings of "the Christ". In so doing Rome destroys over the first 5 centuries of the emerging Gentile Church the Ancient understanding of God which has existed on this planet for over 30,000 years. One only has to study Egyptian Religion as far back as it goes to see that in the beginning Ancient mankind knew that God lives in them and the Invisible, Uncreated Energy and Intelligent Architect of the Universe, God, came through emanations to dwell within physical matter (mankind). These Ancients described this as "the descent of the Soul, the passion of the Christ (masculine), and the passion of the Sophia (feminine). Through my studies I learned how the Ancient Egyptians were the origin for the vast majority of religious doctrines and dogmas that exist in Christianity today while sad at the same time to see that so many of them has been "reinterpreted" and given different and erroneous meanings by Rome much later. I saw with my own eyes how Egypt believed that every child of God possessed within themselves this "Egyptian Karast" which is called "the Christ" today. But instead of everyone possessing this "Christ Within" Rome made it appear in their destruction of this Ancient knowledge and Biblical Judaism as well that this Christ existed in the "flesh" to the exclusion of others and was historically confined to one person alone; that being the "Jesus Christ" of Roman invention whom is called today "Jesus of Nazareth". The irony of it all would hit home when I discovered archeologists maintain that Nazareth was not even a city yet in the first century but was built much later. I saw quite clearly I had inherited and believed "a lie" from Rome but I was not alone for 2.5 billion others in the world are right there with me because of our "forged Christian texts".

    Understand I grew up believing in Jesus and throughout all these years of study I desired to hang on to my "Jesus" as long as I could but the hard cold facts of the studies I was doing continued daily and monthly to expose my beliefs in a "Historical Jesus" as unfounded since the more I studied the less I saw of a "Historical Jesus Christ" and the more I saw that the original faith of the First Century Gnostic believers in "the Christ" was one that believed not in a "Historical Jesus Christ" but the "Gnostic Christ Within". The puzzle was coming together the more I studied and such study over time separated apart the Gnostic New Testament from later forgery of Rome's Second "literalized" New Testament and this separation of the First Gnostic New Testament from the Second Roman New Testament can be done today by the reader if he so wishes. But sadly for me the picture coming together from gathering the puzzle pieces strewn down through history presented for me the ultimate challenge to my faith. The picture unfolding for me daily, from book book, was not one that supported at all the existence of a flesh and blood Jesus of Nazareth; rather it revealed just the opposite. Forgery of the texts of the New Testament by Rome following the first century was the vehicle that gave life to this "historical" and "fleshly Christ".

    I looked heavily into modern scholarship and what they have to say about the "Historical Jesus". Looking at the facts concerning the forgery of outside evidence for the existence of a "Historical Jesus" was depressing to say the least. Just like the ossuary of James, now been declared a fraud and the deceiver behind bars, I could find not one single existing unforged evidence attesting to the existence of a "Historical Jesus" outside of this already declared fraud of a book given us by Rome. An unbiased study of History and archeology and analysis of the surviving documents showed me that there is not a shred of legitimate historical evidence anywhere that the "Jesus Story" originated as the biography of a man named Jesus of Nazareth and in fact revealed evidence to the contrary. I consistently found that outside of this one forged book, the Roman Bible and the New Testament, there exists not one piece of unforged or unadulterated evidence for the historical existence of this man from Galilee.

    By now I was ready to tackle Egypt and the Egyptian Solar and Lunar Mythology that was associated with the earliest "Jesus Story" ever found on this planet. I had overcome my fear of losing my Jesus and now nothing could hold me back at getting to the bottom of this "theological puzzle". I was off to find the truth behind the "Mystical Christ" and the "Mythical Christ" and determine once and for all the links, if any, to my inherited "Historical Jesus".

    In time my studies would progress into other areas where my prior fear of discovering something that would make me lose my "faith in Jesus" no longer existed because it finally dawned on me that the truth mattered more than my faith; especially if my "faith" was in error. I would find over the next few years that a through study of Comparative Religions revealed to me that the basic plot of the "Jesus Story", from beginning to end, including the motif of a crucified savior, already existed in many other religions over 13 thousand years prior to the alleged time of Jesus of Nazareth. It all begins with Egypt. As I continued to submit to dedicated studies into Astronomy and Solar Mythology I found that beyond any doubt the "Jesus Story" is nothing more than an allegory for what is the oldest and most important "religious" understanding of God that Ancient mankind every wrote down.

    Answer for yourself: And what was that?

    It is the story of the the annual passage of Sun through not only the seasons of the year along with the Equinoxes and Solstices but the path of the Sun through the celestial sphere and the 12 Houses of the Zodiac during the year. What was even more unbelievable would be my discovery that this personification of the Sun in its trip through the sky throughout the year was the very foundation for all later events found in the many stories of these various "solar" gods and godmen. When this path of the Sun was "personified" and given a life of its own as if "human" it was a small step to characterize this path of the Sun in "anthropomorphic" language which was expressed through various allegories as seen in the lives of the many "solar representatives" as we find in Comparative Religion. These "solar representatives" are the "godmen" we find in recorded history like Osiris, Horus, Dionysus, Mithra, Attis, and even Jesus. These "personifications of the path of the Sun through the Zodiac were allegorized" and in so doing became the many "events" we find in the various stories of these "godmen". Amazingly the events and sayings (called the Logia) in the lives of these "godmen" like Horus, Dionysus, Mithra, and even Jesus follow in EXACT ORDER the very path of the Sun "personified" as it moves through the Sky and Heavens from House to House in the Zodiac in its one year cycle. You can take the life of Jesus as depicted in the New Testament and trace it through the New Testament and it lines up perfectly with this "personified path of the Sun" through the 12 Houses of the Zodiac which explains why the Synoptic Gospels have only a "one year" ministry for Jesus when the Gospel of John has it as 3 years. The lives, events, and sayings (Logia) of these "godmen" like Jesus follow in exact sequence the the path of the Sun (personified) as it moves through the 4 seasons of the year (Equinoxes and Solstices) and its relationship to associated Constellations along its route through the Sky yearly. The "Jesus Story" is no exception in this regard for I discovered to my utter amazement that this "Jesus Story", itself a "personification of the Sun in its path through the Zodiac, follows in exact chronological procession from Matthew chapter 1 through then end of the book this very same "personification" of the Sun in its path through the 12 Houses of the Zodiac. You have to see this to believe it but if and when you do there is no doubt that the New Testament depiction of Jesus is not one of a "historical person" but rather an allegory of the path of the Sun through the Zodiac. The proof is in the evidence and I will share that with the reader as we progress in our studies. It is to this we now turn in our studies as I will show the reader how this was done in the New Testament.
    It is to these matters we now turn.

    Let us continue our study in the second article in this series

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    Post  Eartheart Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:21 am

    A lot of people are going to "lose their minds".... We cannot judge.. Each had their pleasures and their lusts and relished in the submissions... Time for us to pave the way... with our minds "intact"... Always!
    you both seem to make screensex against the findfukk, so wild and uncontiniously are the x-static and deep pushes and throbs.
    Its never about believing in JJ and consorts, but to commune and actively party-cipate

    I have been in "training" on "how to die".... Yep... I want to die consciously in tact...
    I love you
    I have been attempting to positively-reinforce-- but I'm not sure that this is simply a preliminary exercise which might lead to a satisfying solution.
    Oxymonad, the reminder of our highest x-pressable feelings was put in the so called church - just that and nothing else!!! So please lets drop the dead mnemo of others and write the "Third Testament" on a thread all togather!??!! bounce Crazy Happy

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    Post  orthodoxymoron Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:12 am

    I think constantly about dying -- in connection with 2012, my radical posting, accidents, natural causes -- who knows?? My big concern is the Final Judgment -- and Facing Really Stern and Severe Judges -- Who Might Not Like Human-Beings. I'm sorry if my attempted minimalist-traditionalist positive-reinforcement approach to mythology and theology is lacking -- but this is my modality for approaching new and radical information -- rather than letting-go of my anchor -- and beating upon the rocks of infidelity. I sometimes wonder what it might be like to conduct a 'test-church' experiment at the deconsecrated St. Ouen (in France) -- focusing upon a synthesis of the 1788 Federalist Papers, the 1898 Desire of Ages, the 1928 Book of Common Prayer, and the 1962 Missal -- with massive-doses of Sacred Classical Music??!! The participants would be encouraged to study all of the new, radical, and controversial information available on the internet -- while continuing with the aforementioned minimalist-traditionalist approach -- on a daily basis. What if a Vatican-Based United States of the Solar System were presided over by a King and Queen -- rather than a Male Pope?? You might criticize me -- and with good reason -- but don't you think I am quite open-minded and ecumenical for a basically Conservative Seventh-day Adventist??!! My Transitional-Modality is basically a synthesis of Conservative-Constitutionalist, Conservative Reformed-Protestant, Conservative-Anglican, and Conservative-Catholic!!! Strange Bedfellows!!! In the third, sixth, seventh, and eighth videos (below) imagine organist Gillian Weir as being the Reincarnation of a Pure Queen of Heaven, a Pure Anna, or a Pure Vala Mal Doran!!! As you know by now, I think there might be several Archangelic Queens of Heaven (including One who might be Messianic!) -- with varying levels of good and evil!!! But please don't chip me or vaccinate me -- I'm just a completely ignorant fool -- with no insider information!! I continue to do the best I can -- while continuing to fly blind. God Help Us!!

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    6. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKad6ThBqc8&feature=related
    7. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRTjsiNczpk&feature=related

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    Post  Aquaries1111 Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:43 pm


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    Rev. Craig Lyons was the pastor of one of the largest mega-churches in Dallas. His continued study led him to resign a very lucrative position and create, over the course of 10 years, a very insightful and an amazingly well researched work of comparative religion whose depth and breadth is truly awesome. (His "selective" bibliography is a virtual library of religious and academic literature and is worthy of study on its own right.) He has divided his work into four sections that correspond to the ancient Hebrew system of instruction and each of these are sub-divided into two sections. Although one might not agree with all of his conclusions, anyone who considers Christianity as the most important part of their lives (or once did so) must read Rev. Craig's works. His life has been one long arduous study of religion since graduating
    Southwestern Theological Seminary in 1988.

    After the first 7 years of such study he was forced to resign as a Christian Pastor having been thoroughly convinced that he was not teaching the truth concerning the "Jesus Story" nor "the Christ" but only reiterating an aberrant tradition that had strayed so distantly from the truths of the Ancients concerning this "Jewish Messiah" whom was believed to be "the Christ". After reading hundreds of books over those years and studying usually 5 hours a day, year after year, he has come to see without a doubt that all the world's religions, including Christianity, are nothing more than rewritten versions of an older story held dear by the earliest sages and priest of mankind that can be found on this planet; namely, the story of the birth, death, and rebirth of the Sun as it makes it circuit through the sky and the Zodiac once a year.

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    Post  Eartheart Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:13 pm

    My queen has abolished the traders doctrines and given those upgrown as slaves to the children!My King has given pardon and recycles his dreaming in seclusion! Nature is frozen and awaits the Loovers of the next dramafusion... Those strange guests return home and are here... The so called first love & innocent joy of our children echos through my minds. Its a continious rebirth in me and nothing to hold on to.

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    Post  Carol Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:38 pm

    I'm totally into living in the NOW. There is only the eternal present no mater what state of conscious awareness one exists as. However, I really liked what Melon Thomas did when he died and would like to give that a try. He did come back after a few hours and riga mortis had set in but was completely healed and cured of brain cancer. Not that I plan to resurrect per say. But transfiguration would be an option I enjoy entertaining.


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    Post  devakas Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:58 pm

    NO light No light

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    Post  orthodoxymoron Thu Jul 12, 2012 1:05 am

    Thank-you A1, Eartheart, and Devakas. In college, I discussed theology regularly with someone who now pastors a 10,000+ member megachurch (the last I heard) -- and I would be interested to hear their true and honest evaluation of the present state of theology. I knew theology was in HUGE trouble, decades ago -- and I looked for clean sheet of paper alternatives -- but I was disillusioned by both the traditional and the innovative -- including the megachurches and the new-agers. I basically walked away from everything. I sensed then what I am confirming now -- that the theological and political problems are VERY deep and dark. I also sense that the majority of the people I encounter in 'real-life' are not prepared to deal with most of what we discuss -- and with what I speculate about -- which is why I keep my mouth shut when I'm not online. I will spend some quality time with the Lyons material -- and with some of the books he recommends -- but this isn't the sort of thing that the general public is going to properly process. I hint at a VERY deep study within this thread. I KNOW that I am merely scratching the surface. I continue to think that Political and Theological Science-Fiction might be the best way to inform the general public about upsetting information -- in a very round about manner. If I were younger, I might contemplate a Robert H. Schuller type of presentation relative to this particular thread -- wherein the complex and upsetting concepts were presented in a very positive and refined manner. Unfortunately, that simply will NEVER happen. Still, it's fun to think about. Refined Positive-Reinforcement is a very valid concept. The general public will probably have to be directed from the shadows -- but hopefully in a much more noble manner than they have been for a very long time. I continue to like the idea of a highly-ethical, highly-refined, and deeply-spiritual secular-society. Some of us will probably have to deal with the Lyons-type stuff -- but we certainly cannot expect the vast majority of the population to wade through all of this. It's a nasty job -- but somebody has to do it...

    That was some cool rap, Eartheart -- and I don't like rap.

    Carol, I ultimately attempt to live in the now -- but the ancient stuff seems to be EXTREMELY important -- on a very deep level. Also, a long time ago, I posted something about no longer just leaving things in the Lord's hands -- and someone said that I should've (or something to that effect). Was that you, Carol?? I can't remember. I've been interested in the specifics of that response. It haunts me in so many troubling ways. Also, you have been somewhat supportive of the Ten-Commandments -- and I wonder what the background of that support might be??? I'm sold on the general principles -- yet the specific wording and context continue to trouble me. Also, the manner in which Jesus treats the Decalogue is somewhat puzzling. The Pauline Epistles further muddy the waters. I am very wary and apprehensive about learning the real truth of what REALLY happened in Ancient Egypt which might shed light on who the Gods and/or Goddesses of Egypt might've really been -- and whether one or two of them became the God of Israel??!! The Old Testament is highly troubling to me. If one has no other Gods than the Old Testament God -- is that necessarily a good thing?? My view of the Gods and Goddesses of Eden is that they were (and are) a mixture of good and evil -- sanity and insanity -- human and other-than-human. Jesus seems to be at odds with the Gods and/or Goddesses of Eden (especially in the Teachings Attributed to Jesus) -- and I suspect that this conflict went way back into Ancient Egypt -- or even much earlier. Once again, I suspect Archangelic Queens of Heaven -- in conflict with each other -- in more deep and profound ways than most of us can imagine. I suspect that this crowd is not exactly the forgive and forget type of deities.

    devakas, that was a cool video -- in a somewhat creepy and disturbing way.

    My theological problem is that I seem to be second-guessing very powerful forces who do not wish to be second-guessed and/or exposed -- for legitimate and/or illegitimate reasons -- I know not. I am left to speculate about some very frightening subjects and possibilities. Things could potentially be a million different ways -- and how can a completely ignorant fool know which of those million possibilities is REALITY??? I've been modeling some very disturbing possibilities -- but I have no way of knowing whether I'm even close to the truth. I have no idea what reality is -- past, present, and future. Everything is a Great Big Question-Mark. I continue to seek understanding -- rather than condemnation and retribution. Who knows?? The universe might be trying to get-even with me??!! I keep sensing that I'm in more trouble than most -- even though I've been pretty much a know-nothing and do-nothing kind of guy. I continue to wonder if I've been hamstrung with reincarnational-baggage and nefarious-entities. Something has been, and continues to be, very wrong with me -- going back to childhood. I seem to be a marked-fool. The horror.
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    Post  devakas Thu Jul 12, 2012 11:13 am

    orthodoxymoron wrote:... I truly wish to be as historical as possible -- while being completely honest as I continue to face legion brutal gangs of facts. Those bastards!!

    In nineteen sixties Roman Catholic Church relaxed their law that God can reveal Himself not only through Romans church religion. This is big deal for humanity. Does it mean something? Somebody made this convincing part to them.

    Next important step was recent battle in Russia, where rulers tried to ban Bhagavad Gita, but it happened as it was said in Vedas. Krishna won the battle. Russia should become vedic culture.

    attachment in this material world is not advisable. One may become victim of his own propaganda.

    humans become victims of their own propaganda.

    look for the one who removes the fear of all fallen souls imho

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