United States AI Solar System (5)

"This Guy Is a Real GLASS-HOLE!!"

Carol wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrKs_vduiKU&feature=youtu.be
It's Official: This Is Straight out of Orwell's 1984…

PS - We have a computer program that automatically thumbs down each video we submit the moment we upload it. Probably immediately flags the content as well for the memory hole virtual holding pen. Nice, right? Happens every single time... No person could be sitting there, poised to press thumbs down the moment the video goes up at random times throughout the day and night... It's robotic auto-censorship. We need a better site. As they keep cracking down on free speech, this place is about to become a graveyard of apolitical YT "stars" and cat videos…?

While you may think of all the links returned to you in a Google search as "information choices," Google thinks of them as "bugs" that need to be eradicated from their system. These new policies are the extermination squad. Now the search engine giant will be delisting and censoring content that doesn't follow "well-established" scientific, medical, or historical "facts". Remember 1984? There was a huge difference between "truth" — what actually is — and "facts" — what a consensus has been led to believe.

*EDIT**
Here's the document: https://static.googleusercontent.com/media/www.google.com/en//insidesearch/howsearchworks/assets/searchqualityevaluatorguidelines.pdf

Just a few more examples:
Pg. 18 discusses what Google refers to as "Expertise, Authoritativeness, and Trustworthiness (EAT)" on what constitutes "expertise" on a topic, then links to the BBC and USA Today as "high quality news sources".

Then it says, "High quality information pages on scientific topics should represent well-established scientific consensus on issues where such consensus exists." Medical information will be done the same way. Take a guess what the prescribed "consensus" is there…?

Carol wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66FYhJLjUVw
Michael Savage on How Manafort Raid Fits into
Mueller & Comey's Mafia-Prosecution Background

GOP Rep. Demands Mueller Testify In Public Congressional Hearing
Over ‘Conflicts of Interest’ With Hillary Clinton
Joshua Caplan Aug 11th, 2017
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/08/gop-rep-demands-mueller-testify-public-congressional-hearing-conflicts-interest-hillary-clinton/

This week, the world learned Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election has expanded far beyond its initial scope. Reports surfaced of a predawn FBI raid of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort’s home, along with subpoenas issued to various banks.

It’s anyone’s guess why Mueller has gone far beyond the initial purpose of his investigation, but a Texas GOP Congressman wants answers.

Rep. Brian Babin (R-TX) is asking fellow Congressmen to sign his letter demanding Mueller publicly testify in front of Congress to explain his rationale behind the grossly expanded probe.

Babin is chiefly concerned with Mueller’s “conflicts of interest” in connection to Hillary Clinton and the Democrat Party.

Daily Caller reports:

Mueller, who is investigating Russian election interference and possible ties between the Kremlin and the Trump campaign, has come under intense criticism from allies of President Donald Trump for hiring attorneys who have donated to Democratic candidates and for his personal relationship with former FBI Director James Comey. Trump himself has called Mueller’s employment of Democratic donors “ridiculous,” yet he maintains that he has no plans to dismiss the special counsel.

Babin’s letter, which was obtained by TheDC, was sent out to congressmen Thursday and asks for members to cosign a letter he plans to send to House Judiciary chairman Bob Goodlatte and Senate Judiciary chairman Chuck Grassley.

“Every nominee for United States Attorney must be confirmed by the Senate, a process that brings to the forefront any concerns regarding the nominee’s ability to hold their position in a decent and impartial manner. However, as Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller III and his team of lawyers investigate our very own president, we as a nation wait in the dark with very little information about those given this great authority,” Babin wrote in the letter to his fellow representatives.

Babin writes in the letter that there are “serious concerns” about conflicts of interest with regard to members of Mueller’s counsel who donated “generously” to Democrats or even represented Clinton herself.

“In addition, this investigation has the potential to drag on for months, or even years, and cost millions in taxpayer dollars,” Babin added.

Conservative radio host and best-selling author Michael Savage opened Wednesday’s edition of “The Savage Nation” by giving context to the FBI’s reported-today-breathlessly-by-the-media, actually-occurred-weeks-ago raid on former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort’s home. The context Savage provided was in the form of an ominous analysis of Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s modus operandi.

That’s a huge story. I mean, come on, this is like the Mafia cases. You don’t know this. I don’t know if many of you know this, but Mueller is a very, very skilled prosecutor. It was Mueller and Comey by the way, mainly Mueller, in his period, where he had the FBI do the biggest Mafia roundups in New York history. And they have a standard operating procedure, which is that they flip people on the bottom and turning them into cooperating witnesses. And once they have a cooperating witness, they bring the next one down and the next one down.

There’s no question in my mind that this raid on Manafort, which came out of the blue, is Mueller trying to flip someone, if he hasn’t already flipped someone. Maybe he got someone underneath Manafort who flipped, and they got Manafort. They get Manafort, and Manafort’s gonna flip. It’s gonna go right up the chain. And they’re gonna get … a couple of them as cooperating witnesses.

Who knows how many have been wired? Do we know how many visitors to Trump Tower were wired at the time? Do we have any idea? This witch hunt goes on and on and on.

Now the big question is this: The big question is: what is the big crime?! What is the crime that was committed by these people around Trump?! We still don’t know what it is, OK? So what’s gonna fall down out of the sky now? This is not the Colombo Family and its bloody internal war. This is not the Gambino Family. What is this? What are they trying to do here?

Maureen Dowd, a darling in particular of leftists who fancy themselves enlightened and witty, was giddy in her most recent Sunday New York Times column about how Mueller would be showing President Trump who’s boss. The 65-year-old “eternal teen” gave Mueller the lewinsky treatment, in a column oh-so-cutely called “Bobby Sticks It to Trump” (BARF ALERT):

A White House adviser told me recently about how scary Mueller’s dream team is, and how Jared Kushner should be nervous. Every time Mueller adds a legal celebrity to his crew, the music gets cued for an “Ocean’s Eleven” or “Dirty Dozen” array of talent. One lawyer helped destroy the New York City mafia; another helped bring down Nixon; another tackled Enron; others are experts on foreign bribery and witness-flipping. As GQ’s Jay Willis wrote, “If these people were coming for you over a parking ticket, you’d be thinking about liquidating your life savings.”

Even before his panting, bodice-ripper of a report came out, Ken Starr was getting dismissed as a partisan Javert. He’s still risible, warning Mueller on CNN Friday that “we do not want investigators and prosecutors out on a fishing expedition.” You know you’re in trouble when Mr. Rod & Reel warns you about going fishing.

Mueller is taken seriously as Mr. Clean Marine, a Republican willing to stand on principle even against other Republicans, as when he and James Comey resisted W. on warrantless wiretapping. Mueller is seen as incorruptible, so his conclusions will most likely be seen as unimpeachable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPMeMtjjMzc
Roger Stone Insights Into Paul Manafort FBI Raid Clinton aides being questioned

Published on Aug 9, 2017
Roger Stone Insights Into Paul Manafort FBI Raid New insights Clinton aides being questioned

"FBI by the direction of Robert Mueller kicked down Paul Manaforts door seeking documents they never requested. The reason for this raid is to distract from the fact prosecutors in the southern district of New York are now questioning close associates of Hillary Clinton and are seeking an interview with Hillary & Bill Clinton regarding the activities of the Clinton Foundation."

Paul Manifort raid might be to distract that justice is about to catch up with the Clinton's.

This raid was part of the effort to frame President Trump which if the Democrats take Congress in 2018 would use as a phone bases for impeachment.

Mr. Stone mentions "the key to President rumps survival is the FISA court declaration at the end of the Obama Administration which indisputable proved that Obama's NSA was illegally surveying up to 30,000 Americans which include Roger Stone, Paul Manifort, Donald Trump... we're he to order prosecutions his tormentors would be defeated"

"Don't Mess With My Check!!"

"Study Eschatology!!"

Carol wrote:

13 Year Old Physicist’s New Theory on God

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ0rJx9l4qE

Inspiration From a Teen Physicist, Inventor and Change-Maker

Max Loughan is an inspiring young man with a big vision. “As cheesy as this sounds, from day one on this planet, I knew I was put here for a reason. And that reason is to invent and to bring the future.”

“My true goal is to help. It is to invent a future where people can be happy, where they can be safe and sound.”

This unusual 13 year old has invented a free Tesla inspired energy device, using a coffee tin, spoon and some wire, which he says cost him 15 bucks.

His eloquent theories on God, the universe, the Bible, and physics, are sure to touch your heart and mind.

http://upliftconnect.com/13-year-old-physicist/

Mercuriel wrote:

Oooyeah - I got more where that came from...

Carol wrote:Oxy, you've outdone yourself.  

Merc, you're such a tease.       If people had any idea who you really are their jaws would drop.  

I would love to see that "more" you have along with that video on the space command.

Mercuriel wrote:

Mercuriel wrote: Ei Yei Yei...

orthodoxymoron wrote:Clouds and Pyramids on the Moon? OMG!!! We can't order those pictures from NASA can we!?

Nope - Thats very Unlikely. They'd (NASA = Never A Straight Answer) deny that these were even Pictures of the Moon and They'd say whats always said about most Disclosure Photos NOW...

"They're photoshopped..."

That said - As far as I know They aren't...

orthodoxymoron wrote:It would be sort of cool to live on the Moon, wouldn't it? Or, would the novelty wear off rather quickly? We humans like new and exciting things, but we often get bored rather quickly, and then we're off on another adventure! But seriously, I would love to spend a decade on the Moon, especially if Moon-walks, huge telescopes, and Cray supercomputers were part of the deal!

It would be VERY cool Oxy. That stated - If thats ever going to happen for the Average Joe - Its gonna take the Masses waking up to the larger Reality around Them now. This is the Crux though isn't It and hence the reason for all the Fear, Chaos and subsequent Control They're now attempting to exert over the World as a whole. Gotta FORCE that Negative Harvest which is a Reality that We'll either have to Avert or Deal with...

In fact - I'm going to start a Thread on this very thing today so We can begin the discussion.

orthodoxymoron wrote:I like the idea of colonizing the solar system, but how would we keep it pristine ? I wonder what the solar system was like before the huge ancient wars screwed everything up, and turned Maldek into the Asteroid Belt? I fear that Earth could become an asteroid belt in a matter of minutes. Why does there always have to be a goddamn war?? I understand competition, but I don't understand war.

As anything observed by Consciousness converts Itself from a Wave to a Particle so It can be observed by Consciousness - Its impossible to keep anything Pristine or in It's Elementary State that would be Colonized by Us or any other Lifeform. Its not possible due to the properties of observing something in Matter. An Observed State and an Unobserved State cannot exist in the same Space.

As War is the most extreme version of Competition that there is in Matter - It makes sense that some Lifeforms would engage in this practise after the Polarity Game became the standard for this specific Universe Cycle...

orthodoxymoron wrote:The mystery of iniquity, I guess. If there really is an Orion - Sirius - Egyptian - Roman Empire (or something similar), lead by a Draconian Reptilian Queen, what would it take to have a Peaceful and Happy Solar System where Human Beings would not be enslaved, exterminated, or abused in any way, shape, or form??

It would take one of two things.

1. That They were somehow stopped in Their plans for War and the Conquest of other Species including but not limited to Mankind (The Greys would also like release).

Now - This could be through Them either stopping Themselves by finally listening to Their own Wise Counsel - Or - By having another more Powerful Actor enter the Scenario - Thereby forcing THEM to cease and desist on Our behalf...

Or...

2. We rise up against Them Ourselves and take Our Power back in various ways. This would require Them being exposed and thrust into the Full Light of Disclosure and while I understand that this is the most difficult thing to actually get rolling - Once We do and It comes out as being Verified - It'll be like a Dam busting...

orthodoxymoron wrote:Should the solar system be integrated or segregated ?

Well as the Universal Goal is Integration back into the Whole as a Singularity before the next Universe Cycle - Integration is what should be practised as that is the Path of Unity and all else is Competition...

orthodoxymoron wrote:Greys v The Board of Education? Should the solar system be completely human, or what? How many human planets and moons are there in the galaxy? How many reptilian planets and moons are there in the galaxy?

Does it really matter as long as the Mentalisms displayed above are taken into account ?

orthodoxymoron wrote:How much of a prize is this solar system? What is the big issue in this current mess?

Its a great prize. There are Wormhole Portals in this System that link up with many other Constellations and Dimensions or Parallel Realities if You will. As well - This is a System rich in Minerals and Resouces that ALSO has a Slave Race called Humans which is located on Terra / Earth - The Third Rock from the Sun...

orthodoxymoron wrote:How accurate is Robert Morningsky's material?

Hmmm - I'm not sure so I guess We'll just have to see won't We. That said - Its easy to put up a Warning saying beware without Dates as to when to really beware. This makes the Warning open ended where It can never be placed into the Categeory of disinfo as its open ended and always moving to It's already drawn Conclusiuon - That of "Beware".

That said though - If We reach the Stages that He says We're approaching or at least His Grandfather (IIRC) did - Then We're truly "pooched" and the conclusions about Our Reality from that point then are pretty accurate I'd say. That stated - Those results will have to occur to be accurate and as with Consciousness - Visions of the Future can always change based on Our next collective decision...

orthodoxymoron wrote:Until I receive a helluva lot of evidence, I will assume that this solar system is a Human Island in a Draconian Reptilian Universe, and that we are on the brink of extinction.

Good - Because if You do then You'll be approximating things correctly. The Elites or EL'ites (More on EL'ites later in another Post as there is good and bad in All) have Us on the Brink of Total Domination and They're doing It for Their Offworld and Subterranean Masters. As D. Icke so correctly puts It - The Totalitarian Tiptoe does have Us on the Brink of total Domination and exclusive of that - Destruction if We will not Capitulate...

orthodoxymoron wrote:What would it be like to be on the bridge of a Draconian Reptilian Queen-Ship? Can you imagine observing a dozen drac warriors debating battle strategy? Can you imagine how bad a Drac v Drac Star War might be?!

In the current Paradigm - It would likely be Awesome until They saw the Human(s) and then We'd be fighting for Our Lives I believe. That said - If We were Reps (I like to use Lizards as a term as They really hate It) - We'd be Slaves of the Nobility and / or Ruling Class of Draconians - Would be answering to the Officer Class as to Orders and so therefore We'd likely take It for granted...

orthodoxymoron wrote:Why can't there be a completely peaceful universe?

That was the last Universe Cycle called the "Time of No Waiting" (Instantaneous Manifestation). That said - As not much Learning was done due to there not being a need to Learn anything at all - Just the want to in that Cycle - This Universe Cycle was and is to be all about Spin - Competition from that Spin and the Striving of the Dualities as They make Their way back home to Prime Creator in Integration for the next Universe Cycle and Grand Experiment.

We are still upon the Outbreath...

orthodoxymoron wrote:Why can't Responsible-Freedom and Constructive-Competition be the MO in a Brave New Universe?

Perhaps if enough Aspects become Aware that this is the best Path forward in this Universe Cycle - That will indeed come to pass. With that said - I will offer this Oxy...

As Prime Creator wishes that through Divine Will - It will occur. The only point as limited Aspects that We need think on is when. I would wager then that as long as We don't give up trying to make that a Reality - It will happen sooner - Rather than later...

orthodoxymoron wrote:Hope springs eternal, and thank-you very much for the fantastic photos Mercuriel!!

You're welcome. I will Post more over time when They're Relevant and can make an Impact...

Mercuriel wrote:Why are You Posting excerpts from Scripture Oxy ?

To what end I mean ?

Carol wrote:

You've become quite the scholar Oxy with varied personal experiences with interesting people.
Good for you.

orthodoxymoron wrote:Carol, I've met a few people -- and noticed a few things -- in a pretty-much disappointing, pathetic, and useless life -- but I try to incorporate a little-bit of everyone and everything into my ongoing online-adventure -- for better or worse -- I know not. Which might be better -- a Biblical-Heaven or a Technocratic-Heaven?? Which might be worse -- a Biblical-Hell or a Technocratic-Hell?? What Would Brother Rich Say?? What Would Mr. Edgars Do?? I've come to the conclusion that 99.99% of the souls in this solar-system have NO Idea what's REALLY in their future (and that especially includes me). I get the sinking-feeling that each faction and each Messiah will be made to think they're the Chosen-Ones -- when in reality, they'll all get royally-screwed, just like everyone-else. BTW -- I was looking forward to listening to yet another Sherry Shriner Show -- but she didn't have one last night. The shows are sort of crazy -- but I honestly think she reveals little bits and pieces of the "Good-Stuff" for those with "eyes to see -- and ears to hear". The Horror.

WHO OWNS THE WORLD
by
Kevin Cahill with Rob McMahon

http://www.amazon.com/Who-Owns-World-Surprising-Planet/dp/0446581216/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1376598858&sr=8-1&keywords=who+owns+the+world

Editor's Note: Almost 70 years ago Woody Guthrie wrote one of America's most famous folk songs in which he extolled the idea that this land is your land from California to the New York island -- his more descriptive way of saying this land is your land from coast to coast. 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxiMrvDbq3s 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqZ3oNsMVr0 If taken literally, it's almost as if the lyrics imply a sense of landownership to all US citizens. Whether this is true or not is a matter of interpretation, but for me the greater question this song triggers is what do we know about the land of America's fifty states? Or for that matter, what do we know about the land of the seven continents or the 197 countries that are profiled in this book? In particular, as the title of this book bluntly states, what do we know about who owns the world?

This book will answer questions you never dreamed to ask and reveal facts both startling and eye-opening. You'll learn that of the world's 6,602,000,000 citizens only about 15% of the population lay claim to owning any of its 36,933,896,500 acres of land. You'll also learn that 26 of the 35 still ruling monarchs own and control one-fifth of the world's land. And of these 26 monarchs, Queen Elizabeth II of England is the sole owner of 6,698,000,000 acres of land -- or approximately one-sixth of the entire land surface of the earth. By way of comparison, the Queen's landholdings total nearly three-times the size of the United States putting into clear perspective how and why she is the world's largest individual landowner.

As for the United States, two of the country's largest landowners are the federal government and media mogul Ted Turner, who owns many of the largest ranches. But more than just who owns what and how much they own, you'll learn how the country, as well as each state, is divided between farmland, forest land, and urban land. And maybe, like me, you'll be taken aback when you discover that in the world's third largest country four-fifths of the population resides (or crams) in urban areas. This revelation that so few people live in the wide open spaces of America is still difficult to fathom.

You'll also come to understand the role the four largest organized religions (Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, and Buddhism) play in the scheme of world landownership. For example, the Catholic Church is one of the largest landowners in the world as the church has a presence in more than 190 countries. The Vatican is such a powerful and formidable state that it is recognized as an independent country in international law and is a member of the United Nations. I always knew the Catholic Church had power and influence, but for the first time I now understand just how much power and influence.

I promise this book will change the way you view the United States and the world, as I doubt you'll ever look at, or take for granted, the land you live on or visit ever again. More than likely, you'll want to learn more. Which is ideal, because this book only begins to tell the story as it's an edited and abridged version of Who Owns the World: The Hidden Facts Behind Landownership by Kevin Cahill first published in Great Britain in 2006 by Mainstream Publishing Company.

The original book is a seminal work that not only reveals the history and extensive data behind landownership (particularly in Great Britain and Ireland), but explores in depth how an excess of landownership in too few hands (as has always been the case throughout history) is the single greatest cause for poverty throughout the world. Cahill's original book also makes the argument that the best, and fastest, way to overcome poverty is to grant each individual on earth one small slice of urban land for a home or an acre or two of rural land.

This book is a first resource for viewing the specific details behind the land and landownership of each country in the world. The first four chapters examine the arguments made in the original book, but more specifically these chapters provide background as to how the world's land has come to be divided by ownership and geography. Chapter five profiles the United States and the balance of the book focuses specifically on each country in the world. By studying the individual profiles of each country, it becomes immediately clear that Kevin Cahill is correct in his claim that landownership is indeed a game with too few players. A sad realization, but armed with the information these two books provide, on that hopefully can begin to be rectified before too long.

Introduction: When work on this book began in 2002, there was no map to follow. No attempt had ever been made to compile a structured, numerate account of landownership in the world, or to create a single summary of landownership in each country, however general. The ownership of most of Planet Earth could have been far more easily enumerated around 1900, when most of the planet's land was still held by empires, operating on the feudal or earlier Roman principle, that the emperor or sovereign owned all land in the empire. But no one made this attempt. Even Jack Powelson's great 1989 work, The Story of Land, failed to close the thesis that was everywhere present in his book: that the human population is relatively landless now and had always been almost totally landless throughout history.

That fact raises the most profound questions in three specific areas: ethics, economics, and survival.

The ethical question arising from the history of landownership is simple: Why did the planetary population put up with a continuous crime, a crime committed mainly by the ethical leadership of the planet in the form of sovereigns and their supporting priesthoods? The leadership preached morals and good conduct, while engaging in the basest of greed and misconduct, a greed for land that regularly killed thousands, hundreds of thousands, and in many cases, millions. Hypocrisy is bad enough of itself. In relation to ethics and land, it has proved continuously lethal to the race throughout history.

In economic terms, there is no economics of landownership. That book or work has never been written because no economist has started out from the framework dimensions of the planetary land surface, and then the numbers of the planetary population. On this basis all current economics are ad hominem and as such totally unreliable, as we recently discovered.

Third, survival. The core greed of sovereigns -- now replaced by states but by states operating on the same principle as the sovereigns of old -- has, through the misuse of land and the resources that go with land, put the future of the planetary population at risk. The ecological and environmental leadership never properly address, indeed never address, the issue of land ownership and its role in conservation. To do so they would have to address their masters in governments and ruling establishments and profoundly disturb them -- something they will never do.

The issue of landownership is almost universally the subject of deceit by those in authority and those behind it. The most extraordinary example of this occurred in the UK between 1873 and 2001. In 1872 Parliament commissioned a record of every individual holding an acre or more of land in England, Wales, Scotland, and Ireland. The four-volume record, titled The Return of Owners of Land, was everywhere referred to as the second Domesday at the time of publication (between 1873 and 1876). This was a reference to the first Domesday, compiled in 1086 by William the Conqueror -- known in France as William the Bastard -- a record of landownership in the UK. It was nothing of the sort, however, confined as it was to about 35 of the 40 English counties. It was the King's swag list, and books like it occur throughout history, starting in 2030 BC in Egypt. Works like the second or true Domesday are extremely rare. That of 1873-1876 was excised from both the scholarly and the public record in the UK, between 1881 and 2001, when it reappeared in Who Owns Britain and Ireland and formed the foundation of that book.

Who Owns the Solar System??!!
Who Owns the Technology??!!
Class-Warfare Gets My Goat!!

Carol wrote:

Talking to Crazy
How to Deal with the Irrational and Impossible People in Your Life
By Karl Lawrence on Saturday, December 26, 2015
http://www.wellness.com/drmark

Whether it's at work or within our own family, we all have to deal with people who are just plain irrational. Though at times it may seem hopeless, there are things we can do to penetrate that thick-skulled source of frustration and irritation. Here's how... Don't Let Difficult People Suck the Life Out of You...

In this week’s episode of Your Best Life, Karl interviews Dr. Mark Goulston, who is a psychiatrist, hostage negotiator, trainer, and one of the top experts on listening. Mark has been a crisis psychiatrist for 30 years, has been a UCLA professor of Psychiatry for 25 years. and a fellow of the American Psychiatric Association. During this episode, Karl and Dr. Goulston discuss ideology and communication, mental real estate, hacking Steve Jobs, losing warmth, and breaking the cycle.

orthodoxymoron wrote:

Carol wrote:

Scientists simulating Mars mission on Hawaii

long for end to year in isolation

US, French and German volunteers have been living on freeze-dried food and trying to avoid personal conflicts on the red planet-like slopes of Mauna Loa. A scientist simulates working on the surface of Mars at the Hi-Seas habitat on the northern slope of Mauna Loa in Hawaii. Photograph: Neil Scheibelhut/AFP

Associated Press in Hilo, Hawaii
Sunday 21 August 2016 15.36 EDTLast modified on Sunday 21 August 2016 16.40 EDT

Six scientists are close to wrapping up a year of near isolation in a Mars simulation on a Hawaii mountain.

The scientists are housed in a dome on Mauna Loa and can go outside only in spacesuits, the Hawaii Tribune-Herald reported. They manage limited resources while conducting research and working to avoid personal conflicts. Communication is delayed by 20 minutes, the length it would take to relay messages from Mars.

The Hawaiian dome where Nasa prepares humanity for life on Mars
Kim Binsted, principal investigator for the Hawaii Space Exploration Analog and Simulation (Hi-Seas), said this simulation was the second-longest of its kind after a mission that lasted 520 days in Russia. “They’re doing OK, as far as we can tell,” Binsted said of the scientists.

Previous simulations in the Mauna Loa dome have lasted four to eight months. Mauna Loa soil is similar to what would be found on Mars. The area’s high elevation means almost no plant growth. Nasa funded the study run through the University of Hawaii.

The scientists will have access to fresh produce and other foods not available to them in the dome when the simulation ends on 28 August.

“They are clamoring to get into the ocean,” Binsted said. “I think they will enjoy having a beer as well.”  The current simulation has been the fourth and longest, with volunteers from France, Germany and the United States, including a soil scientist, an astronomer, a physicist and an astrobiologist, who have survived on freeze-dried foods for months. An eight-month simulation starts in January.

VIDIO at LINK: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/21/scientists-simulation-mars-mission-hawaii-hi-seas

Eartheart wrote: orthodoxymoron wrote: Imagine a science-fiction series featuring a power-struggle between an Ethical-Righteous Reptilian-Human Nazi-Mason-Jesuit Agent-Attorney-Queen (Vala Mal Doran??!!) and an Unethical-Unrighteous Reptilian-Human Nazi-Mason-Jesuit Agent-Attorney-Queen (Qetesh??!!) to control a Theocratically-Implemented United States of the Solar System!!! OMG!! Further -- imagine BOTH Queens being in conflict with the just-mentioned Universal-Reptilian-Theocracy (Led by Lord Baal??!!)!!!! OMG SQUARED!!! What if this is what we've been dealing with for a very long time??!! OMG CUBED!!!

OMOxy Clubbed! Havnt been out since a few days - since some voice and vibe talked me into looking for you again, and you know coffee stops working after 2 sleepless nights with sherry & Dr.Oxy   At least i have complex fruits and advocado/Moringa smoothies to help when the ghostwar starts and i need some freqs orchestrated...Didnt manage to listen to cherrys latest shows since her downloads, i missed the 12 Monkeys too and my little pony, but this is just to sirius to avoid and Meshiach seems to want us informed, want he Dr.?    

Eartheart wrote:like Pranayama is a highly specialist yogic praxis to change your frequency resonant assembly in the autoholon mirroring ("hold tight babe", says the adrenaline juncked driver to his kiddnapped girl on the backseat???) so is Oxygen-Breath while reading Dr.Oxys Threads a futuristic quantum-method to implode the paradigm to free the holodeck of our lightship from ghostspaces and particleresidue -        Hail the Kings Dream and our Queens Loove  
 To grasp the bigger picture after the collapse of delusional astral patterns and implants, after the freewilled implosion of fake pixelclouds, the original sourcing outside the hologram and resourcing of direct input sensors, an active envisioning and dreaming will allways be paramount for a spiritual civilisation. Not to forget the oldwise humor presented by Dr.Oxys remedy to pure panic and black out syndrome. His antidotes to the vipers poison have helped around the globe in many mansions. It enabled some of us to even take the Anticrist by his loosh-lash and tickle it till out of breath to allow a trickling holy spirit to poure inn the shared sourcefields...Like my beloved "Geronimo" once said: "here we have to hide an oxymoron, so once it can befound!". Inscribing the Realparadox via your aural envelope opens the holodeck for you, dreaming has to be teached to your senses, unity continuiation via quantumtunneling has to switch on higher chakras, overcharge plasmastates can reassemble any configuration, even Loove is possible....     Honoring the despairlike emotional charges of celestials, who having lost their planets/suns to wars, machines, Ai and borgs seems a theme  reflected here as well with the obvious recollection, that "Humanity is Screwed!!", whichjust shows how importand it is to find there as well remedy!!!! Blessed Harvest

Eartheart wrote:Parents often tell their kids disinfo, because of uncomfi questions! Start there!!! Then we got a fake history indoctrinated by missinformed monks since atlantis! Then we have falsified science since the moneywars where brought to every family home, since the brutish-eeh-british geological society controlled education with a stick and pedophil brainfu**! Disinformation agenda by every goverment since all leaders have to do what their sick wifes want - more greed ect.! Disinfo by all secret societies like religious derivats, sexual derivats, race and genetic derivats, uneducated subcultures and remnants of starwars incarnated here to resurrect feeling ect.! Freewill experimentation

Eartheart wrote:Aloha Bob simple & holy, its worth than in my pix above, you will copy that after victory day...Which jeff R. you pointingout? The bible code stunner? As all the Bibles where after 14th century instructions (same with thora), they contain only tainted propaganda, so any sholar of mentioned wordcraps brainwraps is a disinformation agent by definition. Look how they do it? Software to compare chiffre and encriptionbased software - used mostly by satanic agencies (which might enroll as well a few good guys - hohoho) - compare patterns recognition  and then their insider teams interpret it and give it spin!  Props and quackscience, put your eyes on the MostHigh and go where the fire is to fight man. With lightcodes and futureself quantumtunnels...  Stop being normal & human,
this will kill yah...

Carol wrote:...continued from the "Contact with Pris" thread now locked at the request of the OP

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Post  blue roller Yesterday at 1:49 am

Okay . I have recieved a number of PM's over the course of this thread. Some are silly, some have been entrapping and some I can't make sense of but a Few of them are really very important questions that deserve an answer. I am just not able to give much time to this forum anymore. My input has been on the fly between jobs and commitments so i have had to dash out replies often during breaks or when exhausted in the evening.

In order to engage Pris effectively I have tried to give her enough clues to follow the trail without dissempowering her and everyone one else by doing massive info dumps . If you don't engage the process you don't get enough Potential difference build up to fire the synapses and make the ah ha moments possible.

Question: If what you say is true and they can take over people's bodies using Wi Fi , how does that effect ordinary people like me?

Answer: In star Trek nemesis , Riker's body is possessed by Shinzon so he can experience sex with Deanna Troy . That's body snatching in a Nutshell.

What most people dont realize is that its done all the time. A fathers body can be snatched so that he will be made to sleep with his daughter or mother with son . The effects of this abuse are disastrous for family unity and the bonds of trust and love . Often the possessed blame themselves but they will say "I dont know what came over me when I did it". No they dont but they are forced to live with the heartbreak of defiling those most dear to them.

Wi Fi greatly increases the ability of the Cabal to enter people's homes and do this. Its the ultimate weapon because the enemy is inside the gates and the people cannot see it.

This is strongly illustrated in the Film Kingsman. Eggsy's mother nearly kills her own Daughter until the machine is switched off .

The older pre Wi Fi protocols used amongst other things, the drug rohypnol ( derivative anagram of Hypnosis) ,used to smoke Eggsy and his friends at the nightclub.

This common date rape drug completely wipes surface memory leaving the trauma unresolved in the subconscious mind . Wi Fi does the same thing .

Now its also important to understand and make the connections between Wi Fi abuse and the machine . The abuse does not have to take place physically for it effects to be made manifest . If it happens when you are dreaming the humiliation is just as bad and damaging. The machine impersonates loved ones to gain access to your mind . The machine is an industrial mind hacker feeding on pain and shame to control and enslave.

Yes, it's scary stuff. A good question and one I should have addressed and clarified before .

Question; Why do you limit your interaction to Pris and still make the thread open ?

Answer: Firstly because she is smart ,open minded and shrewd . She makes the effort to really listen and follow up. The results of her hard work are there for all to see .She made this thread work far better than I could ever hope to . Its her thread more than mine.

Secondly, because I just dont have the time and energy to engage a whole bunch of people . Its hard work engaging one person . Its also been at times painful because breaking free is hard work. It threatens other people.

Gotta go but there are a few more Q's worth the candle . And that's what I am trying to do here . Light a warm fire in people's hearts, not fear.

BUT you cant pour new wine in old skins. You don't fill a fresh cup with a hole in the bottom . You have to heal , you have to know your enemy and you have to deal with the ignorance that allowed you to be enslaved. Knowledge gives you the strength to do that.

Question; I had an OBE using pot when I was young . Is that ok to use drugs ?

Answer: When I was very young and stupid I had an OBE smoking pot but at the time I thought I was being eaten by the Sofa . Lmao

Which in itself brings up a very important point. I did not know what was happening so I freaked out.

I think under authentic and experienced supervision drugs can be used effectively but only very cautiously to initiate the first
experiences .

But I do not do drugs and I don't recommend them either. I did it the old fashioned way through research and patient effort . I also had some assistance from my ET family WHEN I WAS READY FOR IT.

You have to be ready for this. You have to be mature enough, mentally stable enough, to cope with entering a whole new world without become a religious nut job or end up in the asylum .

In the Paul Film, Paul knows that a little bit of relaxation smoking pot will help him help Ruth . Religious people are up tight, literally physically up tight . You cannot free your mind from the body prison when you are tense. Relaxation is the major key in OBE. Many people do drugs to escape but I personally suggest that a healthy balanced diet of organic food and a guilt free love life are the best formula.

Now used responsibly ,alcohol relaxes and reduces inhibition. In moderation with a good meal its a perfectly natural and good thing. But again , abuse alcohol and you make your self vulnerable, very vulnerable to having your body jacked ,walked in to. Why do so many drinkers come home and beat /rape their partners? Because they are no longer the master of their mind. They are possessed.

Religious organizations fail to instruct their faithful about whats really happening when they sin because they profit from guilt and shame. Its what brings the punters coming back for redemption from their shame. The catholic church is alcoholics unanimous.

OBE is no different to taking a walk in Downtown Chicago. Wander down the wrong block and you can get in serious trouble . So it pays to have your wits about you , in or out of body. Drugs should be no more than an occasional aid in the beginning.

If you have contact with ET's you trust then they can dramatically increase your range of travel and length of time out. So can the planet mothers. Best internet connection in the universe , the mother net . Talk about your information/galactic gossip super highway.

'OOh did you hear what Venus did last week ?'
'She's been cannoodling with Uranus !'
'Who told you that ?'
'Between you me and the asteroid Belt ,the moon ,'

'OOOOOh ,well I never...........'

Question; I find your attitude to religion offensive and your talk about sexual matters vulgar and infantile ! Where do you get off and why are you so angry about religion ? What makes you think your better than anyone else !?

Answer: Ouch ! well okay fair enough actually .I think the lady who asked me this is genuinely upset and when i thought about it she did make a valid point . My anger .

Lets start with the religion thing . Religion demands you surrender your self to Jesus or Allah or whoever . You turn yourself over to Jesus and make him your personal Savior. You put your faith and trust in him or whoever .

In practice you just gave the Beast/machine permission to hack your mind ! Ordinarily your brain has a guardian to stop that happening .Its called your conscience and gut instinct. It will ring the alarm bells and stop the hack . Disable your virus protection and the devil just walks right in your living room and drags your wife upstairs . Or your husband .

Religion gives the devil permission.

Now in reference to sex . I enjoy it and anyone who says they dont is lying or in denial. But Making love is a far more accurate expression. In fact I often find I have the best OBE's after making love because I am blissfully relaxed.

Sadly far to many people, referring back to my first answer ,suffer from incest Guilt as a result of being hacked/abused etc. So sex is no longer a joyful but shameful thing. My experience suggests to me that at least sixty percent of the human population suffers from this heart breaking state of affairs. Crippled by shame , they withdraw in to their shells and intimacy becomes very difficult. Love ,romance , intimacy etc become a threat . Fear of abandonment ,fear of intimacy , fear of life . All of which leads these poor people back to the last place they should go for comfort or redemption , the Church or the shrinks couch.

Having watched so many dear friends and lovers destroyed by the above , YES it makes me angry and I know that's not healthy but its there and I do my best to manage it because anger is another way to loose control of your body .

Religion provides excuses for denial of joy , denial of true love and intimacy . Devoid of touch and connection, people become neurotic,angry, prudish and unable to enjoy life without feeling guilty. Loneliness in a crowd . Loneliness in every aspect of their lives , the countless millions who suffer from incest guilt live lives of quiet desperation and fear. When they do reach out ,they hedge their bets, ashamed of being seen , ashamed of who they think they are .

They crave attention only to reject it when it gets to real. You see it on forums all the time.

Wow. Got a PM from a lady .She wants to remain anonymous so I am just going to paraphrase as best I can what she wrote to me .She did give me permission to share her story so here goes . It choked me up reading it.

Question/comments: I can't say i really like you that much Mr Roller because I think you are kinda rude and up yourself ! (fair enough) But I read what you said about the wi fi and the incest thing and it choked me up because it explains a lot and maybe you are right .

My daddy was a real nice man , kind and gentle . He worked hard and yes we went to church because were we lived pretty much everyone did . One day he came up to my room and I think he had had a bit to drink but not much . He forced himself on me and I was to young to fight back . Next day he could not look at me and I could see he was real ashamed . He did not hug me ever after that , just ignored me .I never saw him smile at me. It hurt so much .

Then he took to drinking more and more and coming to my room when no one else was home. He did not say anything.His face was dead like I did not even recognize he was my daddy . It was him and it wasn't .

When he was dying in the hospital he asked me to come see him. I did not want to. I hated him for what he did and he messed me up real good . But my family pushed me ,said he needed to see me real bad. So I went .

He said he loved me and I cried and he said can you forgive me for what I did and I was angry and confused and wanted to hit him and say go to hell you bastard . He took my hand real gentle and said something like 'I know you aint gonna believe me when I say this but it was the devil , the devil made me do what I did and i could'nt help it'. He cried like I aint never seen a man cry before and I cried too. But I walked out on him and never said I forgave him.

I dont like the way you disrespect church people , they aint all bad folk but some are . May be your right . I see god though in the flowers in my garden and stuff.

Answer: I guess this is the reason why I find posting so hard. I want to share and maybe help some people but its like no one wants to listen really . They just seem to want to run and hide from the truth . Well Mrs H , I am so sorry and I forgive you completely for everything you think about me . Its OK. YOU can give me a hard time anytime because you speak from the heart and I can respect that.

A long time ago when my mentor started telling me about this stuff I did not want to hear it even though I had experienced attempted walk in and possession ! Its funny how we try to block stuff out when it gets to close to home. They call mindless people Drones don't they ? Well in a very real sense they are . They are not in full possession of themselves. Now we take drones for granted. Flying drones, hovering remote controlled drones and we think nothing of it. I grew up flying radio controlled planes as a kid . Remote control . Same thing .

More and more I see all around me how easily we are partially or completely remotely controlled. How the system is designed to play us ,string us along and frame us .

There is a great deal I dont feel comfortable sharing .Its personal and its heart breaking and I dont want to turn this thread in to a pity party . I have seen the damage though in so many people now that I can recognize the signs and its gut wrenching .

The last time someone attempted walk in on me they used technology to try and paralyze me first. So i turned on the righteous indignation and fried that sucker until he a was little blue ball of light and fizzed out. You can do that in the Lucid dream/OBE state . Never surrender to fear because fear is surrender. Put your hand out in front of you and push them away with energy. Be firm, stand your ground and say NO.

Well so much for making a quiet exit.

Got another PM from Mrs H . First I got a dressing down for making fun of her dialect though I dont think she was to upset about it . I like her dialect but anyway .

I then got a brief lecture on manners followed by a nice follow up story about a dream she had . I had to promise to delete her PM after I had read it so I Just read it a few times to make sure I got the jist of it.

She says shortly after she pm'd me the first time she had a dream where she knew she was dreaming and met her father in a beautiful garden . She saw her father approach her slowly. No, I can't do it like this mrs H , im going to paraphrase you again from memory so its your voice . Yes I know I wont get it completely right but your going to have to put up with it . I will do it without the dialect hows that ?

'I saw my father approach me cautiously . He did not say anything but I saw the love and sadness in his eye's and I knew it was him. I felt angry and happy and sad all at the same time . I knew he needed my forgiveness and I had to struggle with it but I put out my arms and held him . I felt all the pain drain out of me like I was ,dont laugh , taking a big number two . We hugged for a long time and then as we stepped back and looked at each other again I saw just love and gratitude . He kind of dissolved in to the garden and I felt him say in my head that he would always be in my garden when I needed him.'

'I woke up and then I started to cry like I have never cried before . It came from deep down inside like I was regurgitating in big heaving sobs. It was overwhelming but it felt so good to let it out and today I am happier than I have been for the longest time.'

'I still think your rude and insensitive etc but I am glad this happened .'

Well Okay , Mrs H . It was actually really nice to hear from you again and good to know at least somebody got something out of this thread . I love gardening too so at least that's something we have in common .

Well I think that's all the follow up im going to do . I was not planning to but it needed to be done. I dont know if Pris wants to do anymore here . You can all go ahead and take a big dump here now as far as I am concerned because funnily enough that's what this thread is about . Using OBE/lucidity to deal with your sh1t.

Okay Mrs H. One last time and then enough with the questions please. I am not going to reply in a private PM because I know what happens when people take me out of context so im putting it here for the record.

Im not saying people who go to church are all evil . I think the church as an institution is though . Yes i did used to go to church sometimes but its not the same where I grew up. Church Of England is really layed back and you dont get that hardcore sermonizing you may be used to in the US . Europe does not tend to be as in your face about Jesus .

Yes i can see there is virtue in some of what Jesus taught and I get that but you know the most dangerous poisons are usually disguised with plenty of sweetener so you will swallow it.

Yes I know Bach did a lot of beautiful stuff about the passion of christ . The mathew passion just happens to be one of my favorite pieces of music . I know that seems hypocritical to you but what can I say ? maybe the music transcends the crazy stuff and that's good .

I think its great that you were able to open up to someone privately and share anonymously your experience here . It helped you heal ,that's the important thing . I know many people who took thirty/ forty years to even talk about or admit they went through what you did.

Its not unusual , its extremely common ,what you went through . Many abused people get the twisted notion that their abuse makes them 'special' . Its a compensation that twists their mind . There is nothing special about it.

I could spend hours writing up about all the women I have known personally who have been abused but its to painful . But so that you know how it affects the person ,this is what I know from my personal experience with this.

Often the victim projects their abuse on to 'someone they know' ie their sister so that they can talk about their pain through a proxy . Its like the guy who goes to the doctor and says "I have this friend Doc who does not want to to see you personally SO I came here on his behalf......"

Symptoms vary a lot . Different women I have known have all coped in various ways . I think it depends a lot on their personality type and upbringing .

One eg . Daughter of a CIA agent . Went promiscuous and self destructive. Hard drinking ,partying etc. Another friend ,quite the opposite. Withdrew deeply and avoided any kind of intimacy . Both very attractive girls but self esteem was really low .

The other thing I notice is a tendency to pull you in and push you away ,constantly shifting the goal posts to test you then extreme mood swings from happy and full of fun to moody ,cranky and withdrawn . The hard part is getting abused women to stabilize long enough to work through the pain in a healthy way.

Yes I know there are a lot of lousy guys out there but you know that's another tendency you see in abused women. They punish themselves because they blame themselves for what happened and end up going out with losers. Sorry to put it bluntly but its a pattern you see over and over again . Often the guy is a father substitute and they figure they can redeem the father by proxy . There is no sound logic in it but its very typical . OR they pick guys who are Mummy's boys. Safe ,non threatening and rather lame.

Its not about me judging you or them. Im saying objectively and hopefully impartially , this is how the abuse affects them . The trouble is that there is no one to support them when they do come out and tell the truth . Usually the opposite happens . That's when you realize how sick the social system is. It exists to exploit and harness the pain of victims not help them.

But its not just the women being abused and this I think will help you understand . Many men are abused as boys too by their mothers . The trouble is though that sexual abuse by mothers is much harder to detect and see because its more accepted for mothers to demonstrate affection without anyone noticing anything untoward . Yes ,I have known many guys who suffered the results of this kind of thing . It affects men a bit differently though . Often it artificially boosts their self esteem , not destroy it. But mothers boys are bad news usually . Unable to have healthy relationships with other women they tend to reduce their wives to housekeepers.

You get this kind of stagnant superficial relationship where there is no real love and warmth. Its very common . Often the guy ends up becoming Bisexual to avoid the shame he associates with being intimate with a mother substitute !

Yes its crazy , what can I say ? Most important thing is forgive your self. Its not your fault. The child always blames themselves because they think 'I must have done something wrong to be treated like this' .NO ,you did nothing wrong . At least you had the courage to see that your fathers behaviour was actually wrong but then of course its not that easy either . Was it him or was he under someone else's control ?

Some abusers do know exactly what they are doing . I think the research suggests only about ten percent of the population is capable of overt abuse without conscience. Psychopath in other words .

Psychological abuse can be just as damaging as physical ,even more so . All i can say is what I believe to be true and I try to put it in to practice every day with my daughter. Lots of love and laughter and family group hugs . I told my daughter as soon as she was old enough to understand about not letting anyone, including daddy, touch her private places . I went further and told her in no uncertain terms how to kick in the balls, any guy that tried it ! So she did one day at school with a boy who pushed his luck . Education and teaching kids early about the realities of the world is the best protection.

My daughter has got wise to religion early so she is much safer than the kids who get brainwashed . Sorry but that's how I feel.

There are parents who will sabotage other parents kids or put them in harms way .Seen that a few times . I dont trust most people further than I can kick them .Sad but true.

The thing that hurts the most though is believing you are unloved and unlovable because you are unworthy or a slut or some other horrible label that gets attached to you . Everyone deserves and needs to know they are loved . That they are beautiful.

Religion talks love but actually steals it ,rapes it and twists it. That's my experience anyway. I know you think I am a scallywag but im not really . I am an old fashioned romantic at heart. Everyone is if they were allowed to be I think. But you know most guys, if you enjoy holding hands with a girl will make out your soft or 'gay' ! Its rubbish but that's how mothers boys try to look tough.

I have to go . You get out there and love the rest of your life Mrs H . I hope you find the love you deserve.

Carol wrote:I did not mention that I did not agree with the solution you (eNWO) came up with for Khazarian criminals as I don't think that would likely work. What I did say is that I chose to pass that baton onto the younger generation. My professional career was in abuse and violence along with prevention and treatment. And during those years it was primarily focused on families and satanic cults. The horrors of what people can do to others surrounds us everywhere. In addition, I was involved in the political process and involved in getting a law passed giving children rights where they had none. I saw for myself first hand within the State Capital how deals are made on the back steps and outside the doors before the law came up for a vote. IMPO, based on my direct personal experience, the political system is severely flawed. All of my friends who have attempted to participate at the political level failed with the exception of one senior politician senator that I knew.. and even he had difficulty given how impaired the entire political scene is. The key issue is how would something like that be implemented and who would one need to contact/influence to get the job done.

Until a new president is in office (NOT HILLARY), it is unlikely anything will happen. Now Trump is unique. Even Andrew Bassiago is of great interest. If in office one of them may go along with supporting your idea or even come up with a different type of solution altogether.

Carol wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRduwYgrU7A
Video with Ron Paul: Who Owns the Federal Reserve? – Prepare for Change
http://prepareforchange.net/2016/01/04/video-with-ron-paul-who-owns-the-federal-reserve/
This was Uploaded on Jun 4, 2011. See any changes since then?

Carol wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AidBugvVqpw
"Bernanke Threatens The Congress" We will cause an Economic Collapse if you audit the Fed!
This was from 2009... not much has changed in the past 6 years.

orthodoxymoron wrote:I continue to think that the Solar System Situation (SSS) is sort of like an Inoperable Malignant Brain-Tumor. We're screwed, regardless of whether we operate or not. I continue to think that there has been a One Solar System Government for thousands (if not millions) of years -- for better or worse, I know not. I continue to think that the Solar System is a Big-Business (going way, way, way back) -- for better or worse, I know not. I've tried to conceptualize a highly-refined United States of the Solar System in a twenty-second century context -- which positively-reinforces that which presently exists -- for better or worse, I know not. I've wondered what a seamless-integration of Rome, London, the United States, the United Nations, and the Dark-Side of the Moon might look like in a twenty-second century context?! An Individual of Interest told me this would be an "Unholy-Alliance". Another Individual of Interest told me that Ron Paul would be "Bad for the Country". I guess I presently lean toward changing-everything without changing-anything -- for better or worse, I know not. But first and foremost, it is necessary to SURVIVE in order to have ANY sort of Solar System Government and Civilization. I have NO Doubt that the Secret-Government and Secret Space-Program could royally-screw Earth-Humanity -- regardless of whether humans deserve it, or not. "Might" Might "Make Right" in This Solar System (and possibly beyond). Right and Wrong Might Be Irrelevant. I'm attempting to be both Pragmatic and Idealistic -- even though I continue to be a Completely Ignorant Fool. I continue to know that I don't know. We all have our crosses and/or lightsabers to bear, don't we??

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=ron+paul

"Enough Theology, Oxy!! Time for Psychotherapy!!"

King and Queen
(CO-CEO's)
of
Solar Systems Incorporated??




Isis and Osiris??

Carol wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpSOFEtk13c
TRUMP - His Mysterious Connections to UFO Technology!

What is the one thing everyone is ignoring with the Trump presidency? The topic of UFOs. For the last couple decades, U.S. Presidents were asked about Roswell, Area 51, and UFOs on major cultural outlets. With the 45th president, this narrative is strangely missing. Instead, a high level of chaos and turmoil of mass mind control is stirring up division in this country. But what is really going on behind the scenes with Trump? Does Trump have a connection to Tesla or other exotic technology? If so, what does it all mean?

Carol wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKBAs7NZ37k
Time Travelers Brought 10 Alien Videos From Future & We Cannot Explain Any Of Them.

Published on Oct 8, 2017

First of all, so you won't have any doubts that we shall present an actual footage from the future, we will show you following videos: This is Chicago Year 2040. Cannot recognize it in 2017? No wonder.

Next one is San Francisco Year 2020: As you can see Sales force Tower is complete. Now if you look at it you can see 2 cranes still building it. Also see San Francisco Bay full of giant container ship and one is collided with the other giant ship and burning - such events has yet to happen.

This is Minneapolis year 2030 - most of the energy produced by city landscapes.

Houston year 2040 - Star Trek Enterprise is built in reality.

Now we need your help telling what we are seeing in another 10 different videos from the future. But first, 1 month ago on September 9, 2017 we told you that Hurricane will hit cities of New Orleans and Gulfport this month. The video link is link above - or simply scroll down our channel to September 9 Video called. FEMA is wrong: Hurricane Is To Hit New Orleans. You were laughing because Hurricane Irma hit Tampa in Florida and said that well finally great Igor Kryan was dead wrong. Look who is laughing now when hurricane Nate bearing down on New Orleans and Gulfport.

It's certainly not me, because every single prediction we made on YouTube came true (Brexit, Trump victory, Macron Victory, Texas underwater, Mexico Earthquake) and what we seen for the coming months is far worse than happened so far.

Honestly, I was relived when I thought I  wrong about the city the Hurricane hit. And I was thinking if we wrong with New Orleans and Gulfport than when we wrong with other things. Yet, it turned out I was 100% right. How is this possible?

Here is how: We have a chronosphere as I told you before and we can not only see the future but make video recording of the future. I need your help explaining these 10 videos.

One, we have recorded Bay between Oakland and San Francisco in the nearest future - but we cannot tell what in the world is going on there.

Two, it seems like strange dressed black prophet arrived from space ship in 2020s.

Three, the monument with skulls underwater and bronze eagle girl on top. The sign reads: All Knew Its Coming. Made in the USA.

Four, something huge spiraling out of North Sky in a very strange way. We have predicted that International Space Station would fall, but this is something very different.

Five, very strange huge alien looking machine that called human programming device.

Six, it seems like a giant hand rising over the sun and we also cannot tell what atmospheric phenomena we are seeing.

Seven, another monument over green water with a circle filled with diamonds hundreds of feet tall that reads: Mind over Matter.

Eight, All we heard someone saying this trinity event occurring over Pacific ocean.

Nine, Unknown giant beacon.

Ten, entire city in panic over strangest sky phenomena ever.

We hope you can explain these 10 strangest videos from the future.

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Comments:

For all non-believers: Check SF - 2 cranes still building the tower he showed complete I saw it this morning with my own eyes, no such giants ships in the bay even exist today and certainly the spaceship with black guys in strange clothes he shows in detail is not assembled yet. Also if you slow down and enlarge the car part video you see than cars driving without drivers.

video editing?

In my opinion according to a calender it appears that way when several differed calenders are operating in one globe who's to says its not a parallel now add millions of planets many variables at work extremely interesting topic ....I believe evolution plays out the same through genetics in all walks of life in every part of ever solar system the only difference would be the dominant species ......Shoot to chronology?

Some of them are fake for sure... 4:10 those things look like plastic... and this enterprise in reality... look at the keyboards... they blink in random colors..  thats useless... why should people do that

Sanicle wrote:

orthodoxymoron wrote:I'm sick and tired of this stupid guessing-game. I am VERY Suspicious of ALL History. I become more and more suspicious, the further and further back into antiquity one ventures. Anyone Could Write ANYTHING. Think About It. I hate to keep sounding like a "broken-record" BUT how do ALL Sources compare with the following Biblical Sources???

I agree with you completely Oxy.  What I fail to understand is why you keep referring all of that which is said in our day to what's written in the Bible.  How do you know those sources aren't also just a few men's interpretations of what they've heard of the past as well, equally unreliable?  How do you know they are not just recording old fables that others have come up with as stories to bewitch others in their own time and space?  A lot of what's written in the Bible is also said to have been received by "prophets".  Was that what they called channellers back then?  Wouldn't that be just more of what you call "hocus-pocus"?

Unless you were able to do a bit of time-traveling yourself to actually BE there yourself to witness events in the past, you couldn't possibly know for sure that any of what you hear and read is fully true.  My guess is though that you wouldn't even fully accept that, thinking is might all be illusion.

In other words, I don't believe that the certainty you've been looking for for such a long time now is possible, not least of which is because you seem unable to fully trust any source of information that comes to you.  And neither can we really.  As you say........"Anyone Could Write ANYTHING".

My concern is that until you ACCEPT that as so, you'll never find your peace.  Why can't you, do you think?

Carol wrote:Eartheart posted this in another thread but I think it gives hope after listening to Steve Quayle's interviews.

"Let me now summarize the key facts concerning the Christmas Full Moon Portal:

1. On December 20th, the PAT made the most important decision in its history to use this astronomic window of opportunity and accomplish the final separation of the 3D matrix from this highest ascending timeline. For us, the linear time continued, although in fact this portal eliminated linear time and substituted it with the simultaneity of the higher realms, where all past present and future timelines merge into one unity field timeline with infinite alternative possibilities that simultaneously coexist. This is the utmost form of expansion of creation, to which the lower denser holographic models of incarnation are not capable.

2. This was achieved in the first place by the massive influx of old souls as walk-ins before and especially after the ID split of the 3D matrix and the ID shift that raised overnight the light quotient on this uppermost mother planet from the minimal threshold of at least 51% light-filled souls necessary to perform this ultimate ID shift to more than 73%. The repercussions of this dramatic increase in the light quotient will manifest in the next days as a massive ascension leap of the whole humanity that will change the quality of social life and individual well-being dramatically.

3) This earth was saved from experiencing a huge catastrophe, in the first place from the danger of a nuclear WW3.    Get the Flip Real

A very fine-tuned, all-transforming energetic attunement must take place in all human beings and you are well advised to watch very carefully for such signs.

We must expect wonderful times ahead. Now you should all relax and go inside yourselves as to feel the sweetness of our greatest victory over darkness before we leave this reality for ever as human beings."

orthodoxymoron wrote:Sanicle and Eartheart, I simply use Sacred-Scripture as a bridge to antiquity and the otherworldly -- even though I have no idea how much of these writings are true (and how much of them are utter BS). It's really just a big puzzle to me. In a sense, my life has been ruined by the Bible, the Church, Preachers, Teachers, and Ellen White -- but I sense that most everyone meant-well -- but that they got a lot of things wrong. I incorporate my Pseudo Biblical-Research into my Pseudo Science-Fiction. For example, last night I was reading the Book of Job, and I noticed that in several passages, Job "loathed his life". He basically "hated his life". Jupiter Jones hated her life. Is there a connection?? I've made ongoing references to Dr. Who (especially regarding The Trial of a Time-Lord) in which Dr. Who wears a "Coat of Many Colors". The Biblical Joseph wore a "Coat of Many Colors". I have basically cut Exodus through Esther out of my "Idealistic Devotional-Bible" so Job follows Genesis -- and I've been wondering if there is somehow a connection between Joseph and Job (figuratively and/or literally). Notice how much of Genesis is devoted to Joseph. If there REALLY was a Historical-Joseph -- what if Joseph was the writer of a lot of Sacred-Scripture (with various books released hundreds of years after they were written)??!! What if Joseph = Job = Jupiter Jones?? Or what if there is at least a common Ghost-Writer (or something like that)??

Notice in the 1980 movie The Changeling that the murdered little-boy's name was Joseph. Notice that there is a sort of a changeling-phenomenon in The Trial of a Time-Lord. I could go on and on and on -- but I've done so in the U.S.S.S. threads over and over and over again. I don't write books. I don't start churches. I don't raise money. I don't try to convert people. I just ramble on this little website. I simply think that the Bible is a significant part of a much-larger puzzle. I've tried to give the Bible a Science-Fictional Context along with a Free-Thinking Safe-Haven. I actually HATE Doing This -- and I'm NOT Proficient -- but I just can't stop -- even though I REALLY want to. BTW -- I've driven extensively on the same streets George C. Scott drove-on (with an almost identical car). What are the odds?? I've also tried to think in Legal-Terms regarding a Pre-Advent Judgment (with special-attention given to Azazel). I found an image of Azazel which looks a lot like I did as a youth. I find that Extremely-Creepy -- but I keep playing-along with that general-concept (even though the shoe doesn't seem to fit -- at least in this particular incarnation). Raven has called me "Satan" and has said that "the rabbit-hole mostly goes right-up my @$$". Consider also the roles of Russell Crowe and Ben Affleck. One MUST be sort of crazy to go down this hopeless road -- but I keep telling myself that someone must do it -- and I keep making startling discoveries. I try to place myself in the middle of a lot of unlikely contexts. I do it for answers.

Carol wrote:Yes Oxy, Jupiter Jones did hate her life until she experience the bigger picture which also included loving someone and being loved in return.

orthodoxymoron wrote:Hope Springs Eternal. Jupiter nearly died a couple of hundred times. In anything even close to "real-life" she wouldn't have survived. I wonder if Jupiter Jones -- Kalique Abrasax (Kali??) -- and Capt. Singh were really three-aspects of the same-soul??!! Notice that Capt. Singh was sort of a "Universe Policewoman". Dr. Who is sort of a "Universe Policeman". What Would Lilith Say?? Notice that the "Owl" is associated with Lilith -- and what do owls say?? "Who??" What Would Dr. Who Say?? Jupiter Ascending (Rose) = Jupiter Jones = Martha Jones?? What Would Serqet Say?? What Would Amen Ra Say?? I should stop.

Carol wrote:Oxy

According to Quayle:

"God = free will - laughter - love

Jesus = the bridge between light and dark"

When stripping away all the rest understanding the purpose and journey of life becomes simple.

orthodoxymoron wrote:Reading Genesis through Deuteronomy yields a slightly different version of "God". Reading Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John yields a slightly different version of "Jesus" than that which is revealed in Romans through Jude -- and The Revelation of Jesus Christ provides a truly dark and bizarre version of Jesus. "God" and "Jesus" generally get presented in the manner in which the presenter wants them to be seen. I've been thinking in terms of Ethics -- Law -- Chain of Command -- and the State and Fate of the Soul -- regarding Theological Frameworks and Understandings.

Carol wrote:It all boils down to what you choose to hold in your heart Oxy, not your brain.

orthodoxymoron wrote:What I hold in my heart is often in conflict with what I hold in my brain -- neither of which are marketable job-skills. Talking-Logic is worse than Pulling-Teeth. Earth-Realities keep trumping Heavenly-Aspirations. Making-Sense = Causing-Trouble??

Carol wrote:Just keep in mind Oxy that the brain = monkey mind chatter. Stick with your heart and it will lead you true.

orthodoxymoron wrote:Carol, there's a physical--mental--spiritual--social--economic--political--religious "sweet-spot" which I know exists -- yet which I have failed to achieve. I had a college-roommate who spoke of a certain group of students who had highly-educated professional-parents -- and who had a certain "something" which was superior to what we had. These students were overachievers -- yet were quite casual and cultured. One of these students read a complete set of encyclopedias from cover to cover. In retrospect, I think their parents might've been Top One-Percent Movers and Shakers who were very-close to the "Way Things REALLY Work". I think this might be a good-thing and a bad-thing SIMULTANEOUSLY. Once again, I think there is something significant to a Dynamic-Equilibrium Between the Medical--Military--Money Complex and the Prevention--Peace--Philanthropy Complex. Why couldn't the Rich Young Ruler have his cake (and eat it too)?? BTW -- Who Created the "Monkey-Mind"?? Did They "Screw-Up"?? OR Did Someone Screw-Up What the Creator Created??

Carol wrote:Oxy, ego is need in the 3 dimension to deal with duality, opposites where each person is given numerous opportunities to make choices. Learning comes from experiencing the consequences of the choices made. One can determine if it's a good thing or a bad thing when it comes to the consequences... but I discovered that the choice may have appeared "bad" in the immediate present yet in retrospect "good" in the long run due to what was learned. Ego does not exist in the higher dimensions as these types of lessons accrued from choices made seem particular to this dimension.

Letting go and letting god means to set ego aside and allow one's inner being (what's in one's heart) be the guide, not ego. Essentially one learns how to be guided by one's own inner intuition, the voice of where one is connected to god within.

To take this to the next level it appears that once the heart is activated (generally through the vibrational act of prayer and meditation where compassion is generated) one can experience where duality slips into the conscious aware state of singularity. This is where can experience the state of "inner peace" for the rest of their life.

orthodoxymoron wrote:Thank-you Carol. I'm going to read your last-post several-times. There's a lot in it. I've related this story many times BUT once upon a time, at the Crystal Cathedral, I communicated the following "wisdom" to Dr. Robert H. Schuller:

Self-Exaltation is Self-Centered. Self-Degradation is also Self-Centered. True Self-Esteem is Self-Forgetfulness (in the Highest-Sense) such as when an athlete totally-concentrates on the game (with no self-consciousness whatsoever).

Dr. Schuller looked at the ground (impatiently rocking back and forth) as I spoke -- and moved-on to the next person (without comment) -- so I slowly walked away. When I was twenty-feet away, he almost yelled (in a high-pitched mocking-voice) "That was Goooooooood!!" I turned-around, politely-saying "I'll keep listening!!" and kept walking. Next week I spoke with Dr. Schuller, and his attitude was much different. He referred to my "wisdom" as "profound". I had just rejoined the Morning-Choir -- but when Dr. Schuller yelled at me, I quit, even though it was embarrassing for me to do so. I really enjoyed singing in the choir (especially under the direction of Organist-Choirmaster Fred Swann). Shortly thereafter, I moved out of the area, and life has gone digressively downhill ever since.

I was shuttling back and forth between Loma Linda (SDA Smorgasbord) and Garden Grove (Liberal Pseudo-Christian Show-Business) -- singing in two-services at Loma Linda (on Saturday) -- and two-services at Garden Grove (on Sunday). I was pretty-much "Over-Churched"!! I imbibed on Dr. Fritz Guy -- Dr. Jack Provonsha -- Dr. Louis Venden -- Actor Clifton Davis (from Amen) and Dr. A. Graham Maxwell in Loma Linda. Then, I overdosed on Dr. Robert H. Schuller and Dr. Herman Ridder (associate-pastor) in Garden Grove. Later, I became friends with (Schuller-Associate) Dr. Bruce Larson (driving him to and from the airport for many years). He even spoke with Dr. Schuller about me during a flight. Unrelatedly and Separately, Dr. Schuller even slapped a flight-attendant on one occasion!! I learned the hard-way, that Dr. Schuller wasn't always positive and affirming behind the scenes. Once, during a non-televised service, he rudely exclaimed "Try doing THAT in your little Local-Church!!!" (after a celebrity sang a solo) Associate-Organist Mark Thallander was sitting next to me, and looked at me, whispering "Ooooooooooooh."

But really, there is MUCH to be learned from the Peale-Schuller Phenomenon (both positive and negative). I found it interesting to contrast Loma Linda with Garden Grove. They seemed to need each-other. BOTH were in serious-trouble as Stand-Alone Methodologies. David Rose didn't like Dr. Schuller (when I spoke with him at his home). Walter Martin didn't like Dr. Schuller (when I spoke to him at his class in Costa Mesa). An Individual of Interest didn't like Dr. Schuller (when I spoke to him regularly for several years). Actor Clifton Davis liked Dr. Schuller (when I spoke with him in Loma Linda). Dr. Desmond Ford told me that "Dr. Schuller is a very hard worker". How Des knew that, I'd like to know!! The "Ancient Egyptian Deity" told me that the Individual of Interest had changed their mind about me when I attended the Crystal Cathedral for four-years. I continue to maintain that studying the following books are a VERY Interesting Contrasting and Complementary Mental and Spiritual Exercise:

1. Prophets and Kings (Ellen White).
2. The Desire of Ages (Ellen White).
3. The Power of Positive Thinking (Norman Vincent Peale).
4. Move Ahead with Possibility Thinking (Robert H. Schuller).
5. Believe in  the God Who Believes in You (Robert H. Schuller).
6. The 1928 Book of Common Prayer.
7. Sacred Classical Music.

I doubt that anyone has any idea of what I'm talking about -- but I simply wish to place certain things on the record. I honestly think that some sort of a Galactic-Trial is in our future. In fact, such a tribunal might be ongoing -- going way, way, way back. What Would the Watchers Say?? BTW -- Dr. Robert H. Schuller thought he was cracking-up in 1954 (in his own words). That was the year the "Aliens" supposedly landed at Muroc (Edwards Air-Force Base). You don't suppose there was a connection, do you?? One Never Knows. Dr. Schuller was supposedly at least a 33rd Degree Mason. I agreed with 95% of what Peale and Schuller wrote and spoke. I considered their work beneficial as a SUPPLEMENT to Established Belief-Systems (rather than as Stand-Alone New-Theologies). I have some Dynamite-Ideas for a Refined and Minimalist Version of the Peale and Schuller Phenomenon (with an Anglican-Twist) but I don't want to talk about it. I've said too much already. What Would the Cat and the Cat's-Meow Say?? One more thing. Arvella Schuller RAN the Crystal Cathedral -- and THAT is the Gospel-Truth (from the inside).

Carol wrote:

Ramtha’s Prediction of UFOs and President Trump’s Plane
http://www.rse-newsletter.com/2017/01/ramthas-prediction-of-ufos-and-president-trumps-plane/
[Site shows film stills from Fox News of silver saucers escorting Air Force One.]

(UFOs flying right by the military plane taking president-elect Donald Trump from New York to Washington on Thursday January 19, 2017, for the Presidential Inauguration to be held January 20, 2017. The UFOs were spotted in a FOX10 News report featuring the take-off and departure from New York’s La Guardia airport.  See UFOs zoom past USAF-One at 2:55 on FOX News here,)

Last December 8, 2016, Ramtha Predicted that UFOs Would Trail President Trump’s Plane and Described the Significance of these Coming Events for Disclosure

“The first time he looks out the window of his mighty-fine, used-but-nice jet and sees two silver discs waving beside him as an escort, he is going to know it all. This is a man who is not afraid. He is going to know it all. Not only will he learn about the energy systems that have been kept from the American people and the world, used exclusively for the military and the privileged, he is going to expose it all. He had no problem doing what he has just done. He is fearless. He is fearless, because he is an optimist. He knows there is more that can be made. Do you understand?”

“You will learn that there are other alien civilizations. The whole world will learn it.”

Journalist and RSE student Michael Knight published in his North Star Newsletter, January 21, 2017, the news going viral in social media reporting UFOs flying right by the military plane taking president-elect Donald Trump from New York to Washington on Thursday January 19, 2017, for the Presidential Inauguration to be held January 20, 2017. The UFOs were spotted in a FOX10 News report featuring the take-off and departure from New York’s La Guardia airport.  See the video stream from FOX News here, and watch carefully, especially at minute 2:55, to spot the unidentified flying objects zooming by the airplane at great speeds!

Carol wrote:

AIR FORCE ONE escorted by UFO TR-3B !!! Published on Aug 15, 2016 - USA, Seattle. Amazing video showing Air Force One secretly landing at Seattle airport after being escorted by UFO TR-3B. Definitively a proof that TR-3B project is used for security purpose. The TR-3B seems to disappear quickly in the smoke as if it was suddenly cloaking. Click here to read the complete article : http://www.section51-ufo.com/2016/08/air-force-one-escorted-by-ufo-tr-3b-august-2016.html

The TR-3B is Code named Astra. The tactical reconnaissance TR-3B first operational flight was in the early 90s. The triangular shaped nuclear powered aerospace platform was developed under the Top Secret, Aurora Program with SDI and black budget monies. At least 3 of the billion dollar plus TR-3Bs were flying by 1994. The Aurora is the most classified aerospace development program in existence. The TR-3B is the most exotic vehicle created by the Aurora Program. It is funded and operationally tasked by the National Reconnaissance Office, the NSA, and the CIA. The TR-3B flying triangle is not fiction and was built with technology available in the mid 80s. Not every UFO spotted is one of theirs.

The TR-3B vehicles outer coating is reactive to electrical Radar stimulation and can change reflectiveness, radar absorptiveness, and color. This polymer skin, when used in conjunction with the TR-3Bs Electronic Counter Measures and, ECCM, can make the vehicle look like a small aircraft, or a flying cylinder–or even trick radar receivers into falsely detecting a variety of aircraft, no aircraft, or several aircraft at various locations. A circular, plasma filled accelerator ring called the Magnetic Field Disrupter, surrounds the rotatable crew compartment and is far ahead of any imaginable technology.

Sandia and Livermore laboratories developed the reverse engineered MFD technology. The government will go to any lengths to protect this technology. The plasma, mercury based, is pressurized at 250,000 atmospheres at a temperature of 150 degrees Kelvin and accelerated to 50,000 rpm to create a super-conductive plasma with the resulting gravity disruption. The MFD generates a magnetic vortex field, which disrupts or neutralizes the effects of gravity on mass within proximity, by 89 percent. Do not misunderstand. This is not antigravity. Anti-gravity provides a repulsive force that can be used for propulsion. The MFD creates a disruption of the Earth’s gravitational field upon the mass within the circular accelerator. The mass of the circular accelerator and all mass within the accelerator, such as the crew capsule, avionics, MFD systems, fuels, crew environmental systems, and the nuclear reactor, are reduced by 89%. This causes the effect of making the vehicle extremely light and able to outperform and outmaneuver any craft yet constructed–except, of course, those UFOs we did not build.

The TR-3B is a high altitude, stealth, reconnaissance platform with an indefinite loiter time. Once you get it up there at speed, it doesnt take much propulsion to maintain altitude. At Groom Lake their have been whispered rumours of a new element that acts as a catalyst to the plasma. With the vehicle mass reduced by 89%, the craft can travel at Mach 9, vertically or horizontally. My sources say the performance is limited only the stresses that the human pilots can endure. Which is a lot, really, considering along with the 89% reduction in mass, the G forces are also reduced by 89%.

The TR-3Bs propulsion is provided by 3 multimode thrusters mounted at each bottom corner of the triangular platform. The TR-3 is a sub-Mach 9 vehicle until it reaches altitudes above l20,000 feet–then God knows how fast it can go! The 3 multimode rocket engines mounted under each corner of the craft use hydrogen or methane and oxygen as a propellent. In a liquid oxygen/hydrogen rocket system, 85% of the propellent mass is oxygen. The nuclear thermal rocket engine uses a hydrogen propellent, augmented with oxygen for additional thrust. The reactor heats the liquid hydrogen and injects liquid oxygen in the supersonic nozzle, so that the hydrogen burns concurrently in the liquid oxygen afterburner. The multimode propulsion system can; operate in the atmosphere, with thrust provided by the nuclear reactor, in the upper atmosphere, with hydrogen propulsion, and in orbit, with the combined hydrogen\ oxygen propulsion.

What you have to remember is, that the 3 rocket engines only have to propel 11 percent of the mass of the Top Secret TR-3B. The engines are reportedly built by Rockwell. Many sightings of triangular UFOs are not alien vehicles but the top secret TR-3B. The NSA, NRO, CIA, and USAF have been playing a shell game with aircraft nomenclature – creating the TR-3, modified to the TR-3A, the TR-3B, and the Teir 2, 3, and 4, with suffixes like Plus or Minus added on to confuse further the fact that each of these designators is a different aircraft and not the same aerospace vehicle. A TR-3B is as different from a TR-3A as a banana is from a grape. Some of these vehicles are manned and others are unmanned.

orthodoxymoron wrote:I'm presently thinking that we might be dealing with modernized and refined ancient-technology (possibly stolen from the gods). What Would Prometheus Say?? Most (or all) of the UFO's and Aliens might be US and OURS. Disclosure might mostly be the Revelation of OUR Secret Activities. The Rest of the Universe might be Laughing Behind Our Backs!! Siriusly -- I've seen UFO's in this same area. One night, I observed what seemed to be several UFO's attacking and destroying some sort of Spacecraft!! Honest!! It was right before the original Project Avalon was closed. I've seen conventional-looking jets which were going WAY Too Slow!! I once observed a large Boeing jet being closely followed by a small chase-plane which disappeared when the pair briefly passed from my view behind some trees. I once saw a bright as the sun Fireball at 3AM (complete with a sonic-boom -- or whatever it was). Another time, in this same area, I saw the fragmented and burning reentry of what was supposedly a Russian Spacecraft of some sort. I was driving a drunk home at the time, and the guy thought he was hallucinating!! I think the secret-stuff is sort of cool BUT I worry that a lot of it might be in the Worst of Hands. What Would Dwight David Eisenhower Say??

Eartheart wrote: Demigrounded Dr.Oxy, i just hint @ you want yourself and me ect. to shut our mouth/minds to let the torsion fields of our divine equilibrium work its miracles & wonder, and i agree!     Beeing kind to our creations while bathing them in divine Loove could be all we have to do. Dad had it all spread out for us. OOOpps that was before the humans and the rebellion/borgwars....  

So the queens and their powers, a cosmic sitcom with ultimate gore and intimate lore, to much for daddy and the elder son?  
This showdown of deconstructing Heavens splendor, the now constant thread of good wrath and evil wrath with the stick of eternal damnation or postrapture home squeezes my living vortexes into vertical torsionspirals. Will the portal open and
will it be the new law? Was that the origin of your questions?  

The name of the unethical Queen you mentioned was probably vocalized by Egyptians as *Qatiša from the Semitic root Q-D-Š meaning 'holy'. Her city of worship was Qadesh. There is a stupid song Kadosh kadosh holy is the lord... Any bells? Those Hyttits fought for this city in the biggest warcharriot fight of faked history...

Concerning: Should the Ethics and Law be the same in each group?? If so -- why so?? If not -- why not?? Is The Perfect Law of the Lord subject to change at any time (without prior notice)?? What if the Solar System were based upon One Law-Book containing One-Thousand Laws?? What would such a law-book be based upon?? What if such a law-book were the centerpiece of a United States of the Solar System?? Should such a law-book be unalterable?? Why do we need "Law-Makers"?? What was the Law of God prior to the creation of the human-being?? Were the Decalogue and Pentateuch added-temporary emergency-measures?? Are they eternal and immutable?? Is there One Law-Book for the Entire-Universe (perhaps with the exception of Earth-Humanity)?? Should there even be a law-book?? Should the Entire-Universe Absolutely-Obey "Every Word That Proceeds Out of the Mouth of God"?? Once again, is Human Responsible-Freedom in Dynamic-Equilibrium with the Sovereignty of God an Impossible-Dream??

Well, beeing outside of this holographic inscriptions, still in the origin of beginning or  as human fruit/bride in a postresurection solarsystem, my eternal Now is free from those wrathfool adorations. A new passage to free the inner&outer mirrors, that will be our gift to angels and species, our sacrifice and the ending of all the karmic circumcitions... i am dreaming????

Ok, diving into this dream, down to 2Dim...
Should the Ethics and Law be the same in each group?? If so -- why so?? If not -- why not??
Ethics beyond an mutual agreement comes from the well of emotional streams between soul and spirit, giving true and dynamic guidance to the living entety. Laws can only be resonant observations on that phenomenum, allready altering the pristine
sensations into abstractum. As it cannot be the same for the undead or the borg mind, we observed an absense of ethics alltogether there and laws/rules rooted in reverse logo, which make evil out of live.

Is The Perfect Law of the Lord subject to change at any time (without prior notice)??
If dad sent his angels to catch the culprit, he dosnt need laws! Universal laws seem like practical guidlines, cant work around it
and the whole freewill expirience documents it. There is no time in this equation! Inner notice is given!

What if the Solar System were based upon One Law-Book containing One-Thousand Laws??
U mean like a comicbook with a thousand pages, fit for a lizardcommander to read on the toilet?
My resurected solarsystem would enable 144000 inspirations braiding pixelcollums into  raxs of beauty...

What would such a law-book be based upon??
How about a deviant electroschocker, relooping any unlawfool stirring till conciousness generates enough orgone to...
How about those new lightfield we will embedd in shortly (soon) cant contain such concepts anymore???

What if such a law-book were the centerpiece of a United States of the Solar System??
Ad abstractum it will be centered around the living will, tingling every Heart with hymns of devotion.

Should such a law-book be unalterable??
For enteties like U it should be unalterable!

Why do we need "Law-Makers"??
To infiltrate the decision process of a planetary populus and the indoctrinate them by mindfu**s.
So its not we, who needs them!

What was the Law of God prior to the creation of the human-being??
Primal play.

Were the Decalogue and Pentateuch added-temporary emergency-measures?? Are they eternal and immutable??
Decalogue can be traced back (see so called "Book of thou death" egypt/tibetan ect.) where one would come to
the throne/temple and claim: I've not killed, i've not stolen, i've not Xxxxxx bros wife, animal, kids ect.ect...
Pentateuch are middleage (14th) writings faked by the (now called satanists) to subjugate the israelites and give them
falsified history ect...
Both are not eternal and belong into the recycling bin!

Is there One Law-Book for the Entire-Universe (perhaps with the exception of Earth-Humanity)??
Maybe some XXXX can be imprinted on the gravotunnels or spacewaves to act like one light, as all of
Fathers species are made with the rays and divine "bondage"...
Should there even be a law-book??  How else you would know to operate you phablet?

Should the Entire-Universe Absolutely-Obey "Every Word That Proceeds Out of the Mouth of God"??
Since when has communion somthing to do with a loudmouth?

Once again, is Human Responsible-Freedom in Dynamic-Equilibrium with the Sovereignty of God an Impossible-Dream??
Nope, this dynamic dream unfolds like all freewill projections, may we not run in circles!          

Thank-you, Eartheart. You obviously know a lot, but I often have a difficult time understanding your posts. I'd love to see a book with all of your ideas in your words in one column -- with a translation in a parallel-column. I keep getting the impression that Earth-Civilization was purposely built on shifting-sand (for who knows what reasons). I keep thinking that Ancient-Egypt has a lot to do with why things are as they are today. Consider the Story of Joseph. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_(patriarch)

Joseph (/'d?o?z?f, -s?f/;[1] Hebrew: ?????? ??, Standard Yosef Tiberian Yôsep¯; "may He add";[2] Arabic: ?????? Yusuf or Yusif; Ancient Greek: ??s?f Ioseph) is an important person in the Bible, Torah and Quran: his life connects the narrative of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in Canaan to the subsequent narrative of the liberation of the Israelites from slavery in Egypt.

According to the Book of Genesis Joseph was the 11th of Jacob's 12 sons and Rachel's firstborn,[3] and tells how Joseph came to be sold into slavery by his jealous brothers, and rose to become vizier: the second most powerful man in Egypt next to Pharaoh. When famine struck Canaan, Jacob (Joseph's father) and Joseph's brothers came to the Land of Goshen in Egypt.

The Bible offers two explanations of the name Yosef: first it is compared to the word asaf from the root /'sp/, "taken away": "And she conceived, and bore a son; and said, God hath taken away my reproach"; Yosef is then identified with the similar root /ysp/, meaning "add": "And she called his name Joseph; and said, The LORD shall add to me another son."[4]

19th century source criticism divided the Joseph story between the Jahwist, Elohist and Priestly sources of the documentary hypothesis.[5] In the early 20th century Hermann Gunkel suggested that, unlike the Abraham-Isaac-Jacob stories, the Joseph story formed a single unitary story with literary rather than oral origins.[5] In 1953 Gerhard von Rad made a detailed assessment of its literary artistry and drew attention to its identity as a Wisdom novella,[6] and in 1968 R.N. Whybray argued that unity and artistry implied a single author.[7] All three insights are now widely accepted,[8] and the majority of modern biblical scholars date the Joseph story in its current form to the 5th century BCE Persian era at the earliest.[9] There have been many attempts to trace the story's redaction history including work by Donald Redford. His theory states that a first "Reuben version" of the story originated in the northern kingdom of Israel and was intended to justify the domination by the “house of Joseph” over the other tribes; this was followed by a later “Judah-expansion” (chapters 38 and 49) elevating Judah as the rightful successor to Jacob; and finally various embellishments were added so that the novella would function as the bridge between the Abraham-Isaac-Jacob material in Genesis and the following story of Moses and the Exodus.[10]

Some scholars, such as Israel Finkelstein and Israel Knohl, claim Joseph to be a summarizing character of the Hyksos period, created as a referent of the glorious past of Hyksos which was still preserved by their descendents by the time of the Israelites' emergence during the Iron Age in Canaan. From these scholars' point of view the Hyksos' descendents were part of the Proto-Israelite groups which join to form the biblical Israelite nation. The Hyksos began settling in Egypt around 1800 BCE after earlier contacts, grew in power, and were later expelled by Ahmose I around 1550 BCE.

Many modern-day scholars believe the historicity of the events in the Joseph narrative cannot be demonstrated.[11][12] Hermann Gunkel, Hugo Gressmann and Gerhard von Rad identified the story of Joseph as a literary composition,[13] in the genre of romance,[14][15] or the novella.[16][17][18] As a novella, it is read as reworking legends and myths, in particular the motifs of his reburial in Canaan, associated with the Egyptian god Osiris.[19] Others compare the burial of his bones at Shechem, with the disposal of Dionysus’s bones at Delphi.[20][21][22] For Schenke, the tradition of Joseph's burial at Shechem is understood as a secondary, Israelitic historical interpretation woven around a more ancient Canaanite shrine in that area.[23] The reworked legends and folklore were probably inserted into the developing textual tradition of the Bible between the 8th and 6th centuries BCE. Most scholars[24] place its composition in a genre that flourished in the Persian period of the Exile.[25][26][27][28][29]

Joseph, son of Jacob and Rachel, lived in the land of Canaan with ten half-brothers, one full brother, and at least one half-sister. He was Rachel's firstborn and Jacob's eleventh son. Of all the sons, Joseph was preferred by his father, and this is represented by a "long coat of many colors".[30] When Joseph was seventeen years old he had two dreams that made his brothers plot his demise. In the first dream, Joseph and his brothers gathered bundles of grain, of which those his brothers gathered, bowed to his own. In the second dream, the sun (father), the moon (mother), and eleven stars (brothers) bowed to Joseph himself. These dreams, implying his supremacy, angered his brothers. (Genesis 37:1-11)

Joseph's half-brothers were jealous of him; (Genesis 37:18-20) wherefore, in Dothan, most of them plotted to kill him, with the exception of Reuben,[31][32] who suggested to have Joseph thrown into an empty cistern, intending to rescue Joseph himself. Unaware of this secondary intention, the others obeyed his first.[33] Upon imprisoning Joseph, the brothers saw a camel caravan carrying spices and perfumes to Egypt, and sold Joseph to these merchants.[34] Thereafter the guilty brothers painted goat's blood on Joseph's coat [35] and showed it to Jacob, who therefore believed Joseph dead. (Genesis 37:12-35)

Ultimately, Joseph was sold to Potiphar, the captain of Pharaoh's guard.[36] Later, Joseph became Potiphar's personal servant, and subsequently his household's superintendent. Here, Potiphar's wife Zuleika tried to seduce Joseph, which he refused. Angered by his running away from her, she made a false claim that he tried to rape her, and thus assured his imprisonment.[37] (Genesis 39:1-20)

The warden put Joseph in charge of the other prisoners,[38] and soon afterward Pharaoh's chief cup-bearer and chief baker, who had offended the Pharaoh, were thrown into the prison,[39] and suffered dreams interpreted by Joseph, who stated that the chief cup-bearer would be reinstated but the chief baker would be hanged.[40] Joseph requested the cup-bearer to mention him to Pharaoh and secure his release from prison,[41] but the cup-bearer, reinstalled in office, forgot Joseph.[42] After two more years, the Pharaoh dreamt of seven lean cows which devoured seven fat cows; and of seven withered ears of grain which devoured seven fat ears. When the Pharaoh's advisers failed to interpret these dreams, the cup-bearer arranged the summons of Joseph, who predicted seven years of abundance followed by seven years of famine, and advised the Pharaoh to store surplus grain.

Following the prediction, Joseph became Vizier, under the name of Zaphnath-Paaneah,[43] and was given Asenath, the daughter of Potipherah, priest of On,[44] to be his wife. During the seven years of abundance, Joseph ensured that the storehouses were full and that all produce was weighed. In the sixth year, Asenath bore two children to Joseph: Manasseh and Ephraim. When the famine came, it was so severe that people from surrounding nations came to Egypt to buy bread. The narrative also indicates that they went straight to Joseph or were directed to him, even by the Pharaoh himself. (Genesis 41:37-57) As a last resort, all of the inhabitants of Egypt, less the Egyptian priestly class, sold their properties to Joseph for seed; wherefore Joseph set a mandate that, because the people would be sowing and harvesting seed on government property, a fifth of the produce should go to the Pharaoh. This mandate lasted until the days of Moses. (Genesis 47:20-31)

In the second year of famine,[45] Joseph's half brothers were sent to Egypt to buy goods. When they came to Egypt, they stood before the Vizier but did not recognize him as their brother Joseph, who was now in his late 30s; but Joseph did recognize them and did not speak at all to them in his native tongue of Hebrew.[46] After questioning them, he accused them of being spies. After they mentioned a younger brother at home, the Vizier (Joseph) demanded that he be brought to Egypt as a demonstration of their veracity. This was Joseph's full brother, Benjamin. Joseph placed his brothers in prison for three days. On the third day, he brought them out of prison to reiterate that he wanted their youngest brother brought to Egypt to demonstrate their veracity. The brothers conferred amongst themselves speaking in Hebrew, reflecting on the wrong they had done to Joseph. Joseph understood what they were saying and removed himself from their presence because he was caught in emotion. When he returned, the Vizier took Simeon and bound him as a hostage.[47] Then he had their donkeys prepared with grain and sent the other brothers back to Canaan. Unbeknownst to them, Joseph had also returned their money to their money sacks. (Genesis 42:1-28)

The remaining brothers returned to their father in Canaan, and told him all that had transpired in Egypt. They also discovered that all of their money sacks still had money in them, and they were dismayed. Then they informed their father that the Vizier demanded that Benjamin be brought before him to demonstrate that they were honest men. Jacob became greatly distressed feeling that they treated him badly. After they had consumed all of the grain that they brought back from Egypt, Israel told his sons to go back to Egypt for more grain. With Reuben and Judah's persistence, they persuaded their father to let Benjamin join them for fear of Egyptian retribution. (Genesis 42:29-43:15)

Upon their return to Egypt, the brothers were received by the steward of the house of Joseph. When they were brought to Joseph's house, they were apprehensive about the returned money in their money sacks. They thought that the missed transaction would somehow be used against them as way to induct them as slaves and confiscate their possessions. So they immediately informed the steward of what had transpired to get a feel of the situation. The steward put them at ease, telling them not to worry about the money, and brought out their brother Simeon. Then he brought the brothers into the house of Joseph and received them hospitably. When the Vizier (Joseph) appeared, they gave him gifts from their father. Joseph saw and inquired of Benjamin and was overcome by emotion but did not show it. He withdrew to his chambers and wept. When he regained control of himself, he returned and ordered a meal to be served. The Egyptians would not dine with Hebrews at the same table, as doing so was considered loathsome, so the sons of Israel were served at a separate table. (Genesis 43:16-44:34)

That night, Joseph ordered his steward to load the brother's donkeys with food and all their money. The money they brought was double what they had from the first trip. Deceptively, Joseph also ordered that his silver cup be put in Benjamin's sack. The following morning the brothers began their journey back to Canaan. Joseph ordered the steward to go after the brothers and question them about the "missing" silver cup. When the steward caught up with the brothers, he seized them and searched their sacks. The steward found the cup in Benjamin's sack just as he had planted it the night before. This caused a stir amongst the brothers. However, they agreed to be escorted back to Egypt. When the Vizier (Joseph) confronted them about the silver cup, he demanded that the one who possessed the cup in his bag become his slave. In response, Judah pleaded with the Vizier that Benjamin be allowed to return to his father, and he himself be kept in Benjamin's place as a slave. (Genesis 44)

Judah appealed to the Vizier begging that Benjamin be released and that he be enslaved in his stead, because of the silver cup found in Benjamin’s sack. The Vizier broke down into tears. He could not control himself any longer and so he sent the Egyptian men out of the house. Then he revealed to the Hebrews that he was in fact their brother, Joseph. He wept so loudly that even the Egyptian household heard it outside. The brothers were frozen and could not utter a word. He brought them closer and relayed to them the events that had happened and told them not to fear, that what they had meant for evil God had meant for good. Then he commanded them to go and bring their father and his entire household into Egypt to live in the province of Goshen, because there were five more years of famine left. So Joseph supplied them Egyptian transport wagons, new garments, silver money, and twenty additional donkeys carrying provisions for the journey. (Genesis 45:1-28)

Thus, Israel and his entire house of seventy,[48] gathered up with all their livestock and began their journey to Egypt. As they approached Egyptian territory, Judah went ahead to ask Joseph where the caravan should unload. They were directed into the province of Goshen and Joseph readied his chariot to meet his father there.[49] It had been over twenty years since Joseph had last seen his father. When they met, they embraced each other and wept together for quite a while. His father then remarked, “Now let me die, since I have seen your face, because you are still alive.” (Genesis 46:1-34)

Afterward, Joseph’s family personally met the Pharaoh of Egypt. The Pharaoh honored their stay and even proposed that if there were any qualified men in their house, then they may elect a chief herdsman to oversee Egyptian livestock. Because the Pharaoh had such a high regard for Joseph, practically making him his equal,[50] it had been an honor to meet his father. Thus, Israel was able to bless the Pharaoh. (Genesis 47:1-47:12) The family was then settled in Goshen.

The house of Israel acquired many possessions and multiplied exceedingly during the course of seventeen years, even through the worst of the seven-year famine. At this time, Joseph’s father was 147 years old and bedridden. He had fallen ill and lost most of his vision. Joseph was called into his father’s house and Israel pleaded with his son that he not be buried in Egypt. Rather, he requested to be carried to the land of Canaan to be buried with his forefathers. Joseph was sworn to do as his father asked of him. (Genesis 47:27-31)

Later, Joseph came to visit his father having with him his two sons, Ephraim and Manasseh. Israel declared that they would be heirs to the inheritance of the house of Israel, as if they were his own children, just as Reuben and Simeon were. Then Israel laid his left hand on the eldest Mannasseh’s head and his right hand on the youngest Ephraim’s head and blessed Joseph. However, Joseph was displeased that his father’s right hand was not on the head of his firstborn, so he switched his father’s hands. But Israel refused saying, “but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he.” A declaration he made just as Israel himself was to his firstborn brother Esau. To Joseph, he gave a portion more of Canaanite property than he had to his other sons; land that he fought for against the Amorites. (Genesis 48:1-22) Then Israel called all of his sons in and prophesied their blessings or curses to all twelve of them in order of their ages. To Joseph he declared:

"Joseph is a fruitful bough, a fruitful bough by a well; His branches run over the wall. The archers have bitterly grieved him, Shot at him and hated him. But his bow remained in strength, And the arms of his hands were made strong by the hands of the Mighty God of Jacob (From there is the Shepherd, the Stone of Israel), By the God of your father who will help you, And by the Almighty who will bless you With blessings of heaven above, Blessings of the deep that lies beneath, Blessings of the breasts and of the womb. The blessings of your father have excelled the blessings of my ancestors, Up to the utmost bound of the everlasting hills. They shall be on the head of Joseph, And on the crown of the head of him who was separate from his brothers.” - Genesis 49:22-26 NKJV

After relaying his prophecies, Israel died. The family, including the Egyptians, mourned him seventy days. Joseph had his father embalmed, a process that took forty days. Then he prepared a great ceremonial journey to Canaan leading the servants of the Pharaoh, and the elders of the houses Israel and Egypt beyond the Jordan River. They stopped at Atad where they observed seven days of mourning. Here, their lamentation was so great that it caught the attention of surrounding Canaanites who remarked “This is a deep mourning of the Egyptians.” So they named this spot Abel Mizraim. Then Joseph buried Israel in the cave of Machpelah, the property of Abraham when he bought it from the Hittites. (Genesis 49:33-50:14)

After their father died, the brothers of Joseph feared retribution for being responsible for Joseph’s deliverance into Egypt as a slave. Joseph wept as they spoke and told them that what had happened was God’s purpose to save lives and the lives of his family. He comforted them and their ties were reconciled. (Genesis 50:15-21)

Joseph lived to the age of 110, living to see his great-grandchildren. Before he died, he made the children of Israel swear that when they left the land of Egypt they would take his bones with them, and on his death his body was embalmed and placed in a coffin in Egypt. (Genesis 50:22-26)

The children of Israel remembered their oath, and when they left Egypt during the Exodus, Moses took Joseph's bones with him. (Exodus 13:19) The bones were buried at Shechem, in the parcel of ground which Jacob bought from the sons of Hamor (Joshua 24:32), which has traditionally been identified with site of Joseph's Tomb, before Jacob and all his family moved to Egypt. Shechem was in the land which was allocated by Joshua to the Tribe of Ephraim, one of the tribes of the House of Joseph, after the conquest of Canaan.

The motif of dreams/dream interpretation contributes to a strong story-like narrative.[53][54] One can see the structure of a story develop with the distinct episodes containing the dream motif. The exposition contains Joseph’s beginnings as a dreamer; this leads him into trouble as, out of jealousy, his brothers sell him to into slavery. The next two instances of dream interpretation establish his reputation as a great interpreter of dreams; first, he begins in a low place, interpreting the dreams of prisoners. Then Joseph is summoned to interpret the dreams of Pharaoh himself.[55] Impressed with Joseph’s interpretations, Pharaoh appoints him as second-in-command (Gen 41:41). This sets up the climax of the story, which many regard to be the moment Joseph reveals his identity to his brothers (Gen 45:3).

In the midrash, the selling of Joseph was part of God's divine plan for him to save his tribes. The favoritism Israel showed Joseph and the plot against him by his brothers were divine means of getting him into Egypt.[56] Maimonides comments that even the villager in Shechem, about whom Joseph inquired his brother's whereabouts, was a "divine messenger" working behind the scene.[57]

A midrash asked, How many times was Joseph sold? In analyzing Genesis Chapter 37, there are five different Hebrew names used to describe five different groups of people involved in the transaction of selling Joseph, according to Rabbi Judah and Rav Huna. The first group identified, are Joseph's brothers when Judah brings up the idea of selling Joseph in verses 26 and 27. The first mention of Ishmaelites (Yishma'elîm) is in verse 25. Then the Hebrew phrase ?ashîm midyanîm sohrîm in verse 28 describes Midianite traders. A fourth group in verse 36 is named in Hebrew as m‘danîm that is properly identified as Medanites. The final group, where a transaction is made, is among the Egyptians in the same verse.

After identifying the Hebrew names, Rabbi Judah claims that Joseph was sold four times: First his brothers sold Joseph to the Ishmaelites (Yishma'elîm), then the Ishmaelites sold him to the Midianite traders (?ashîm midyanîm sohrîm), the Midianite traders to the Medanites (m‘danîm), and the Medanites into Egypt. Rav Huna adds one more sale by concluding that after the Medanites sold him to the Egyptians, a fifth sale occurred when the Egyptians sold him to Potiphar. (Genesis Rabbah 84:22)

Joseph had good reasons not to have an affair with Potiphar’s wife: he did not want to abuse his master’s trust; he believed in the sanctity of marriage; and it went against his ethical, moral and religious principles taught to him by his father Jacob. According to the midrash, Joseph would have been immediately executed by the sexual assault charge against him by Potiphar’s wife. Arbarbanel explains that she had accused other servants of the same crime in the past. Potiphar believed that Joseph was incapable of such an act and petitioned Pharaoh to spare his life.[58] However, punishment could not have been avoided because of her class status and limited public knowledge of her scream.

Jewish tradition holds that Joseph had his steward plant his personal silver cup in Benjamin’s sack to test his brothers. He wanted to know if they would be willing to risk danger in order to save their half brother Benjamin. Since Joseph and Benjamin were born from Rachel, this test was necessary to reveal if they would betray Benjamin as they did with Joseph when he was seventeen. Because Joseph the Dreamer predicts the future by analyzing dreams, Jewish tradition attest that he practiced divination using this silver cup as the steward charged[59] and as Joseph himself professed in Genesis 44:15.[60]

In one Talmudic story, Joseph was buried in the Nile river, as there was some dispute as to which province should be honored by having his tomb within its boundaries. Moses, led there by an ancient holy woman named Serach, was able by a miracle to raise the sarcophagus and to take it with him at the time of the Exodus.

Joseph is mentioned in the New Testament as an example of faith (Hebrews 11:22).

Joseph is commemorated as one of the Holy Forefathers in the Calendar of Saints of the Armenian Apostolic Church on July 26. In the Eastern Orthodox Church and those Eastern Catholic Churches which follow the Byzantine Rite, he is known as "Joseph the all-comely", a reference not only to his physical appearance, but more importantly to the beauty of his spiritual life. They commemorate him on the Sunday of the Holy Forefathers (two Sundays before Christmas) and on Holy and Great Monday (Monday of Holy Week). In icons, he is sometimes depicted wearing the nemes headdress of an Egyptian vizier. The Lutheran Church–Missouri Synod commemorates him as a patriarch on March 31.

In addition to honoring him, there was a strong tendency in the patristic period to view his life as a typological precursor to Christ.[61] This tendency is represented in John Chrysostom who said that Joseph's suffering was "a type of things to come,"[62] Caesarius of Arles who interpreted Joseph's famous coat as representative of the diverse nations who would follow Christ,[63] Ambrose of Milan who interpreted the standing sheaf as prefiguring the resurrection of Christ,[64] and others.

This tendency, although greatly diminished, was followed throughout late antiquity, the Medieval Era, and into the Reformation. Even John Calvin, sometimes hailed as the father of modern grammatico-historical exegesis,[65] writes "in the person of Joseph, a lively image of Christ is presented."[66]

In addition, some Christian authors have argued that this typological interpretation finds its origin in the speech of Saint Stephen in Acts 7:9-15, as well as the Gospel of Luke and the parables of Jesus, noting strong verbal and conceptual collocation between the Greek translation of the portion of Genesis concerning Joseph and the Parable of the Wicked Tenants and the Parable of the Prodigal Son.[67]

Joseph (Arabic: ???????, Yusuf) is regarded by Muslims as a prophet (Qur'an, suras vi. 84, xl. 34), and a whole chapter Yusuf (sura)(sura xii.) is devoted to him, the only instance in the Qur'an in which an entire chapter is devoted to a complete story of a prophet. It is described as the 'best of stories'.[68] Joseph is said to have been extremely handsome, which attracted his Egyptian master's wife to attempt to seduce him. Muhammad is believed to have once said, "One half of all the beauty God apportioned for mankind went to Joseph and his mother; the other one half went to the rest of mankind."[69] The story has the same general outlines as the biblical narrative, but with certain differences.[70] In the Qur'an the brothers ask Jacob ("Yacub") to let Joseph go with them.[71] The pit into which Joseph is thrown is a well, and Joseph was taken as a slave by a passing caravan (Qur'an 12:19).[72]

In the Bible, Joseph discloses himself to his brethren before they return to their father the second time after buying grain.[73] The same is true in the Islamic story, but they are compelled to return to Jacob without Benjamin, and the father weeps himself blind.[73] He remains so until the sons have returned from Egypt, bringing with them Joseph's garment which healed the patriarch's eyes as soon as he put it to his face (Qur'an 12:96).[73]

There are numerous mentions of Joseph in Bahá'í writings. These come in the forms of allusions written by The Báb and Bahá'u'lláh. In the Kitáb-i-Aqdas, Bahá'u'lláh states that "from my laws, the sweet-smelling savour of my garment can be smelled" and, in the Four Valleys, states that "the fragrance of his garment blowing from the Egypt of Baha", referring to Joseph.

Bahá'í commentaries have described these as metaphors with the garment implying the recognition of a manifestation of God. In the Qayyumu'l-Asma', the Báb refers to Bahá'u'lláh as the true Joseph and makes an analogous prohecy regarding Bahá'u'lláh suffering at the hands of his brother, Mírzá Yahyá.[74]

Thomas Mann retells the Genesis stories surrounding Joseph in his four novel omnibus, Joseph and His Brothers, identifying Joseph with the figure of Osarseph known from Josephus, and the pharaoh with Akhenaten.
Joseph and his Brethren, 1743, an oratorio by George Frideric Handel.
Josephslegende (The Legend of Joseph) is a 1914 work by Richard Strauss for the Ballets Russes
The long-running musical Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat by Andrew Lloyd Webber and Tim Rice is loosely based on the biblical story of Joseph, up through Genesis chapter 46. It was adapted into a film in 1999 called Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat (film)
In 1995, Turner Network Television released the made-for-television movie Joseph starring Ben Kingsley as Potiphar, Lesley Ann Warren as Potiphar's wife, Paul Mercurio as Joseph and Martin Landau as Jacob.
In 2000, DreamWorks Animation released a direct-to-video animated musical film based on the life of Joseph, titled Joseph: King of Dreams.
Yousuf e Payambar (film) or Joseph, the Prophet is an Iranian television series from 2008, directed by Farajullah Salahshur, which tells the story of Prophet Joseph from the Quran and Islamic traditions.
The cultural impact of the Joseph story in early-modern times is discussed in: Bernhard Lang, Joseph in Egypt: A Cultural Icon from Grotius to Goethe. New Haven: Yale University Press 2009.
Rappresentatione di Giuseppe e i suoi Fratelli / Joseph and his Brethren - a musical drama in three acts composed by Elam Rotem for ensemble Profeti della Quinta (2013, Pan Classics).

Footnotes

1.Jump up ^ "Joseph". Random House Webster's Unabridged Dictionary.
2.Jump up ^ verse, note and commentary on Genesis 30:24, The Anchor Bible, Volume 1, Genesis, 1964, Doubleday & Company, Inc., Garden City, New York
3.Jump up ^ JewishEncyclopedia.com - JOSEPH
4.Jump up ^ Friedman, R.E., The Bible With Sources Revealed, (2003), p.80
5.^ Jump up to: a b Gunkel, H. Genesis (trans. ed. Mark E. Biddle), 1997, p. 387
6.Jump up ^ Michael V. Fox, “Wisdom in the Joseph Story” (Vetus Testamentum, Brill, 2001)
7.Jump up ^ R.N. Whybray, “The Making of the Pentateuch: A Methodological Study” (Sheffield Academic Press, 1999) pp.54-55
8.Jump up ^ J.A. Soggin, “Notes on the Joseph Story”, in “Understanding Poets and Prophets: Essays in Honour of George Wishart Anderson” (JSOTSupp 153, Sheffield Academic Press, 1993)
9.Jump up ^ J.A. Soggin, “An Introduction to the History of Israel and Judah” (1998, trans. John Bowden, SCM Press, 1999) p.102-3
10.Jump up ^ Donald Redford, "A Study of the Biblical Story of Joseph (Genesis 37-50)" (VTSupp 20, Brill, 1970)
11.Jump up ^ Moore & Kelle 2011, p. 174: ‘The majority of current scholars believe that the historicity of the Egyptian sojourn, exodus, and wilderness wandering that the Bible remembers cannot be demonstrated by historical methods.’
12.Jump up ^ de Hoop 1999, p. 420: ‘In conclusion, it is the question for evidence, principally falsifiable, that forms historical probability. This evidence is not found in narratives like the Joseph Story.
13.Jump up ^ de Hoop 1999, p. 412: ‘The departure from the historical approach, which sought for the exact period when Joseph rose to power, was mainly caused by the recognition of Gunkel, Greßmann, von Rad and others, that the Joseph story is a literary composition, a novella. Von Rad even stated that the Joseph Story ‘has no historical-political concern whatsoever, also a cult-aetiologic tendency is lacking, and we even miss a salvation-historical and theological orientation...the Joseph story with its clearly didactic tendency belongs to the ancient wisdom school’.’
14.Jump up ^ de Hoop 1999, p. 412.
15.Jump up ^ Louden 2011, p. 63‘Joseph’s myth has basic affinities with romance’.
16.Jump up ^ Sills 1997, pp. 172–174
17.Jump up ^ Redford 1993, pp. 422–429,p.423: ‘as has long been realized, the Joseph story is in fact a novella or short story.
18.Jump up ^ Redford 1970, p. 66-58: ‘The Joseph story as Märchen-Novelle.’
19.Jump up ^ Völter 1909, p. 67
20.Jump up ^ Goldman 1995, p. 124
21.Jump up ^ Völter 1909, pp. 64–5: Die Erzählung aber, dass die Lade mit dem Leichnam des Joseph, nachdem sie lange in Aegypten geblieben war, beim Auszug von den Israeliten mitgenommen und nach Palästina gebracht worden sei, kann kaum etwas anderes bedeuten, als daß der Cultus eines toten, in einer Lade liegenden Gottes, der eigentlich in Aegypten zu Hause war, von den Israeliten übernommen worden ist, Dieser Gott is Osiris.’
22.Jump up ^ Rivka 2009, pp. 113–114: Joseph’s double burial, and his first resting place in the Nile, shares several motifs extant in the Egyptian Osiris myth.
23.Jump up ^ Schenke 1968, p. 174: ‘die Tradition von seinem Grab bei Sichen kann also nur als sekundäre Israelitische, nämlich geschichtliche Deutung eines älteren kanaanäischen Heiligtums bzw. heiligen Platzes verstanden werden.’
24.Jump up ^ Sperling 2003, p. 98 writes:'there are no compelling linguistic or historical reasons to date the story later than the ninth to eighth century of the first millennium B.C.E.’
25.Jump up ^ Smith 1984, pp. 243–244 n.1, 268:’a romance, of the ancient genre of romantic-religious novellae that revived in the Hellenistic world...the first great example in Israelite literature is the Joseph romance.’; ‘The old peasant stories of the Patriarchs and Joshua (heroes of holy places at Bethel, Hebron Beersheba and Shechem) had doubtless long been collected in cycles and may, before Persian times, have been connected with some or all of the other elements in the hexateuchal narrative, myths about the beginning of the world, the flood and so on, the Joseph romance, nomads’ tales of Moses, and stories about the conquest of the country. These components are clear; how they were put together is hazy; but most scholars would agree that the Jerusalem priests of the Persian period were the final editors who gave the material substantially its present form...and rewrote many stories to serve their own purposes, usually as legal precedents.’
26.Jump up ^ Redford 1970, p. 242:’several episodes in the narrative, and the plot motifs themselves, find some parallel in Saite, Persian, or Ptolemaic Egypt. It is the sheer weight of evidence, and not the argument from silence, that leads to the conclusion that the seventh century B.C. is the terminus a quo for the Egyptian background to the Joseph Story. If we assign the third quarter of the fifth century B.C.E. as the terminus ante quem, we are left with a span of two and one half centuries, comprising in terms of Egyptian history the Saite and early Persian periods.’
27.Jump up ^ Redford 1993, p. 429:’the Biblical Joseph story was a novella created sometime during the seventh or sixth century B.C. (the end of the Judean monarchy or the Exile).
28.Jump up ^ Wright 1973, pp. 113–114
29.Jump up ^ Finkelstein & Silberman 2001, pp. 37,67: ‘The camel carrying “gum, balm, and myrrh,” in the Joseph story reveals an obvious familiarity with the main products of the lucrative Arabian trade that flourished under the supervision of the Assyrian empire in the eighth-seventh centuries BCE.’:’A seventh century BCE background is also evident in some of the peculiar Egyptian names mentioned in the Joseph story.’
30.Jump up ^ Another possible translation is "coat with long sleeves" - see "A Dictionary of the Targumim, Talmud Bavli, Talmud Yerushalmi and Midrashic Literature", 1903. ISBN 1-932443-20-7
31.Jump up ^ Genesis 37:21-22
32.Jump up ^ Josephus. The Antiquities of the Jews, Book II, 3.1, 2
33.Jump up ^ According to Josephus, Reuben tied a cord around Joseph and let him down gently into the pit. - Josephus. The Antiquities of the Jews, Book II, 3.2.31
34.Jump up ^ The Septuagint sets his price at twenty pieces of gold; the Testament of Gad thirty of gold; the Hebrew and Samaritan twenty of silver; the Vulgar Latin thirty of silver; Josephus at twenty pounds
35.Jump up ^ According to Josephus, the brothers tore the coat to pieces then dipped it into goat’s blood. - Josephus. The Antiquities of the Jews, Book II, 3.4.35
36.Jump up ^ Genesis 37:36, Genesis 39:1
37.Jump up ^ Josephus claims that Potiphar fell for his wife's crocodile tears though he did not believe Joseph capable of the crime. - Josephus. The Antiquities of the Jews, Book II, 4.1-5
38.Jump up ^ Genesis 39:21-23
39.Jump up ^ Genesis 40:1-4
40.Jump up ^ Genesis 40:5-22
41.Jump up ^ Genesis 40:14-15
42.Jump up ^ Genesis 40:23
43.Jump up ^ Josephus refers to the name Zaphnath-Paaneah as Psothom Phanech meaning “the revealer of secrets” – Josephus. The Antiquities of the Jews, Book II, 6.1.91
44.Jump up ^ Josephus refers to Potipherah (or Petephres) as the priest of Heliopolis. - Josephus. The Antiquities of the Jews, Book II, 6.1.91
45.Jump up ^ Genesis 45:11
46.Jump up ^ Genesis 42:23
47.Jump up ^ William Whiston comments that Simeon was chosen as a pledge for the sons of Israel’s return to Egypt because of all the brothers that hated Joseph the most, was Simeon, according to the Testament of Simeon and the Testament of Zebulon. – Whiston. Works of Josephus: Antiquities of the Jews, Book II, 6.4.110 (ISBN 0-913573-86-, 1993, Commentarial note, p. 60
48.Jump up ^ Genesis 46:27
49.Jump up ^ Josephus has Joseph meeting his father Jacob in Heliopolis, a store-city with Pithom and Raamses, all located in the Egyptian country of Goshen. - Josephus. The Antiquities of the Jews. Book II, 7.5.184
50.Jump up ^ Genesis 44:18
51.Jump up ^ Geness 20:12: Sarah was the half–sister of Abraham
52.Jump up ^ Genesis 22:21-22: Uz, Buz, Kemuel, Chesed, Hazo, Pildash, and Jidlaph
53.Jump up ^ Kugel, James L. (1990). In Potiphar's house: the interpretive life of biblical texts. Harvard University Press. pg 13
54.Jump up ^ Redford, Donald B. (1970). A study of the biblical story of Joseph: (Genesis 37–50). Supplements to Vetus Testamentum. 20. Leiden: Brill. pg 69
55.Jump up ^ Lang, Bernhard. (2009). Joseph in Egypt: a cultural icon from Grotius to Goethe. Yale University Press. pg 23
56.Jump up ^ Scharfstein, S. Torah and Commentary: The Five Books of Moses (ISBN 1602800200, ISBN 978-1-60280-020-5), 2008, p.124
57.Jump up ^ Scharfstein, 2008, p.120
58.Jump up ^ Scharfstein, 2008, p.125, 126
59.Jump up ^ Genesis 44:15
60.Jump up ^ Scharfstein, 2008, p.138, 139
61.Jump up ^ Smith, Kathryn (1993), "History, Typology and Homily: The Joseph Cycle in the Queen Mary Psalter", Gesta (University of Chicago Press) 32 (2): 147–159, doi:10.2307/767172, ISSN 0016-920X, JSTOR 767172
62.Jump up ^ Chrysostom, John (1992), Homilies on Genesis, 46-47, trans. Robert C. Hill, Washington DC: Catholic University of America Press, p. 191
63.Jump up ^ Sheridan, Mark (2002), Genesis 11-50, Downers Grove: InterVarsity, p. 231
64.Jump up ^ Sheridan, Mark (2002), Genesis 11-50, Downers Grove: InterVarsity, p. 233
65.Jump up ^ Blacketer, Raymond (2006), "The School of God: Pedagogy and Rhetoric in Calvin's Interpretation of Deuteronomy", Studies in Early Modern Religious Reforms 3, pp. 3–4
66.Jump up ^ Calvin, John (1998), Commentaries on the First Book of Moses Called Genesis 2, Grand Rapids: Baker, p. 261
67.Jump up ^ Lunn, Nicholas (March 2012), "Allusions to the Joseph Narrative in the Synoptic Gospels and Acts: Foundations of a Biblical Type" (PDF), Journal of the Evangelical Theological Society (Evangelical Theological Society): 27–41, ISSN 0360-8808
68.Jump up ^ Quran 12:3
69.Jump up ^ Tottli 2002, p. 120
70.Jump up ^ Quran 12:1
71.Jump up ^ Quran 12:12
72.Jump up ^ Quran 12:19
73.^ Jump up to: a b c Differences of Tradition
74.Jump up ^ Naghdy, Fazel (2012), A Tutorial on the Kitab-i-iqan: A Journey Through the Book of Certitude, Fazel Naghdy, p. 563, ISBN 978-1466311008

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Let's Do It Again!!"

Carol wrote:

Huma Abedin Can’t Be Found After Judge Uncovers
What She Hid From Americans About Benghazi
Friday, August 11, 2017 6:02

Huma Abedin Can’t Be Found After Judge Uncovers What She Hid From Americans About Benghazi. After five long years and countless hearings on Benghazi, we are finally getting the facts about what really happened between Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and other State Department officials. Huma Abedin was always the linchpin who coordinated all of Hillary Clinton’s communications, and one judge just uncovered what she hid from us all along. Now, Abedin can’t be found as the Department of Justice just confirmed her worse nightmare. You don’t want to miss this.

For years, Americans have been demanding justice for those heroes who lost their lives in Benghazi. We always knew there was a cover-up, but with Obama in charge and insulated, even Trey Gowdy couldn’t break through and get what he needed to nail those rats. Well, President Donald Trump is at the helm now, and that has alleviated the backlash for judges ruling on highly sensitive government cases.

So, why is Huma Abedin nowhere to be found? “A federal judge ordered the State Department on Tuesday to resume its search for emails and other records related to the 2012 attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi in which four Americans died,” reports The Hill. This may seem like no big deal, but it is, and here’s why. Shockingly, Hillary’s top aid’s emails were never searched in regards to Benghazi, which means Abedin lied in 2015 when she testified behind closed doors in the Benghazi hearings.

Never fear, the judge isn’t talking about Hillary’s home brewed server emails that were destroyed. No, these are the emails coming from Ambassador Chris Stevens and all “Benghazi” related topics to Abedin through the dot.gov accounts, which are archived at the State Department. These are so lethal that Hillary and Huma couldn’t destroy them since they were on the government server, but they made damn sure no one knew they were there, and yes, they lied under oath.

This includes any high-level communication coming to or leaving the State Department that has anything to do with Benghazi. “The court finds that State’s search [on Benghazi] was inadequate insofar as it did not search the official state.gov e-mail accounts of Secretary Clinton’s three aides, and orders State to conduct a supplemental search of those accounts,” according to the ruling, The Hill further reports.

The aides include Huma Abedin, former deputy chief of staff; Cheryl Mills, former chief of staff; and Jacob Sullivan, former director of policy planning. “Documents may include additional communication between Hillary Clinton, who was secretary of state at the time, and her staff,” The Hill adds.

We are focusing on Huma Abedin here because, clearly, if there is a smoking gun that will prove Hillary and Obama screwed up in Benghazi, only Abedin would be privy to it. “This major court ruling may finally result in more answers about the Benghazi scandal — and Hillary Clinton’s involvement in it — as we approach the attack’s fifth anniversary,” Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton said in a statement Thursday.

There is one concerning issue that remains, and that’s the Obama holdovers who are looking out for Hillary and Barack. Judicial Watch’s Tom Fitton, who was directly responsible for this Benghazi breakthrough with the courts, added that he was getting flack still from the DOJ and the State Department, even though this is Trump’s administration.

Why are Tillerson and Sessions wasting taxpayer dollars protecting Hillary Clinton and the Obama administration?

We know Trump would only want Hillary and Obama brought to justice, so why the cryptic tweet from Fitton? I think he is bringing the fact that there is still an ongoing problem with getting cooperation to Sessions and Tillerson’s attention, and the only reason that would be is due to Obama holdovers who are sabotaging these investigations.

“It is remarkable that we had to battle both the Obama and Trump administrations to break through the State Department’s Benghazi stonewall,” Fitton said in his statement. The State Department has until September 22 to update the court on its additional search. So, let Hillary and Huma go on the run, but they can’t hide. At some point, they will have to resurface and face the music.

It seems like such a long journey for those Benghazi families who were let down by the Obama rats while Americans kept crying for justice. Sometimes justice takes an awfully long time to get here, but this is finally one step in the right direction after five long years.

The Establishment continue to push forward in their attempt to shut down the alternative press that is rapidly growing and pushing out the faltering mainstream media. As the EU demands social media sites censor fake news and Reddit, Facebook and other sites begin blocking Fusion Laced Illusions and other alternative media it is now alarmingly evident that their truly is a war on free speech.

Carol wrote:

Republicans Strike Back: Congressman Circulates Letter Demanding Mueller Open Hearing
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-11/republicans-strike-back-congressman-circulates-letter-demanding-mueller-open-hearing

According to an exclusive report from the Daily Caller, Representative Brian Babin (R-TX) has apparently circulated a letter in DC asking for congressmen to sign onto an effort to force special counsel Robert Mueller testify publicly in an open congressional hearing.  Among other things, Babin says that Congress has a right to question the independence of Mueller's investigative staff and the scope of his investigation.

Babin’s letter, which was obtained by TheDC, was sent out to congressmen Thursday and asks for members to cosign a letter he plans to send to House Judiciary chairman Bob Goodlatte and Senate Judiciary chairman Chuck Grassley.

“Every nominee for United States Attorney must be confirmed by the Senate, a process that brings to the forefront any concerns regarding the nominee’s ability to hold their position in a decent and impartial manner. However, as Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller III and his team of lawyers investigate our very own president, we as a nation wait in the dark with very little information about those given this great authority,” Babin wrote in the letter to his fellow representatives.

Babin writes in the letter that there are “serious concerns” about conflicts of interest with regard to members of Mueller’s counsel who donated “generously” to Democrats or even represented Clinton herself.

“In addition, this investigation has the potential to drag on for months, or even years, and cost millions in taxpayer dollars,” Babin added.

Babin’s goal is to have one or both of the judiciary committees “bring Mr. Mueller and his team out of the shadows” to answer questions about the “potential expenses incurred by Mr. Mueller, the scope of his investigation and the selection of his special council team.”

Of course, this request from Babin comes as people have continued to question the impartiality of several of Mueller's early, notable hires, many of whom have been contributors to Hillary's and/or Obama's previous campaigns, with one, Jeannie Rhee, actually represented the Clinton Foundation.

Michael Dreeben, who serves as the Justice Department’s deputy solicitor general, is working on a part-time basis for Mueller, The Washington Post reported Friday. Dreeben donated $1,000 dollars to Hillary Clinton’s Senate political action committee (PAC), Friends of Hillary, while she ran for public office in New York. Dreeben did so while he served as the deputy solicitor general at the Justice Department.

Jeannie Rhee, another member of Mueller’s team, donated $5,400 to Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign PAC Hillary for America.

Andrew Weissmann, who serves in a top post within the Justice Department’s fraud practice, is the most senior lawyer on the special counsel team, Bloomberg reported. He served as the FBI’s general counsel and the assistant director to Mueller when the special counsel was FBI director.

Before he worked at the FBI or Justice Department, Weissman worked at the law firm Jenner & Block LLP, during which he donated six times to political action committees for Obama in 2008 for a total of $4,700.

James Quarles, who served as an assistant special prosecutor on the Watergate Special Prosecution Force, has donated to over a dozen Democratic PACs since the late 1980s. He was also identified by the Washington Post as a member of Mueller's team.

Starting in 1987, Quarles donated to Democratic candidate Michael Dukakis’s presidential PAC, Dukakis for President. Since then, he has also contributed in 1999 to Sen. Al Gore’s run for the presidency, then-Sen. John Kerry’s (D-Mass.) presidential bid in 2005, Obama’s presidential PAC in 2008 and 2012, and Clinton’s presidential pac Hillary for America in 2016.

Meanwhile, as we pointed out yesterday, Mueller has also started to go after the family members of anyone surrounding the Trump campaign with Paul Manafort's son-in-law, Jeffrey Yohai, being the latest target. The strategy, more or less, entails digging up whatever dirt can be found on those in Trump's orbit and then using that dirt to coerce potential witnesses into cooperation.  That said, the aggressive tactics have left many questioning whether the scope of Mueller's investigation is becoming far too wide-ranging.

“Manafort is — on many levels — a key subject of the investigation and someone who might be leveraged to share information about others,” said one Washington-based white-collar attorney with a client involved in the Russia probe.

The approach involves finding a suspected crime — false statements on tax returns or loan applications, for example — and then offering leniency on prosecution in exchange for cooperation. “They always start with the people on the low end of the ladder and try to get information on someone high up on the ladder,” said William Jeffress, a white-collar attorney who represented Vice President Dick Cheney’s chief of staff, I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby, in the President George W. Bush-era Valerie Plame leak investigation.

Mueller would clearly have jurisdiction over any real estate dealings between Yohai, Manafort and Russians, Jeffress said. In addition, he could press Yohai for details on what he knows about Manafort’s role in the campaign.

Of course, we're sure that the mere suggestion that Republicans stand up against an investigation that has clearly morphed into an all out "witch hunt," and one which is backed by the full capabilities and support of the intelligence community, will just be way too controversial for some mainstreamers to support.

Carol wrote:

Watchdog Sues FBI For Failure To Turn Over Comey "Exit Papers"
“How is it the FBI allowed Mr. Comey to walk out the door with sensitive documents about President Trump?”
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-11/watchdog-sues-fbi-failure-turn-over-comey-exit-papers

After scoring a major court victory on Thursday in its years-long pursuit of any and all emails sent by former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton pertaining to the Sept.11, 2012 attack in Benghazi, watchdog group Judicial Watch has announced that it’s suing the Department of Justice for failure to turn over records pertaining to former FBI James Comey’s handling of the infamous “Comey memo."

The group is escalating its fight to learn everything it can about the memo that Comey allegedly wrote following a meeting with President Donald Trump where, Comey claims, the president improperly pressured him to drop the bureau’s investigation into former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn. Specifically, Judicial Watch would like to know how Comey was allowed to walk out the door with a copy of this memo. There’s a strong legal argument that the document, because it was written in his official capacity as FBI director, belongs to the Justice Department and unlawfully taking it would be a felony offense.

Judicial Watch announced today that it filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit against the Department of Justice for all non-disclosure agreements pertaining to the handling, storage, protection, dissemination, and/or return of classified information that were signed by or on behalf of former FBI Director James Comey (Judicial Watch v. U.S. Department of Justice (No. 1:17-cv-01624)).

“The suit was filed in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia after the Justice Department failed to respond to a June 13, 2017, FOIA request seeking “any and all non-disclosure agreements pertaining in full or in part to the handling, storage, protection, dissemination, and/or return of classified and/or sensitive information that were signed by or on behalf of former FBI Director James Comey.”  Such records would include:

All SF-312 (Classified Information Nondisclosure Agreement) forms
All FD-857 (Sensitive Information Nondisclosure Agreement) forms
All FD-597 (Receipt for Property Received/Returned/Released or Seized) forms
All FD-291 (FBI Employment Agreement) forms
All Case Briefing Acknowledgement forms”

Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton said it’s “outrageous” that JW has had to push so hard for what should be readily available public information.

“How is it the FBI allowed Mr. Comey to walk out the door with sensitive documents about President Trump?” said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton.  “It is remarkable that we have to sue the FBI in federal court to get these answers about this scandal.”

Judicial Watch has filed several lawsuits seeking more information about the Comey memo. Back in June, it sent a warning letter to the FBI reminding it of its obligation to “recover records” – i.e. the memo, which has never been made widely available to the public.  

“In June, Judicial Watch sent the FBI a warning letter concerning the FBI’s legal responsibility under the Federal Records Act (FRA) to recover records, including memos Comey subsequently leaked to the media and unlawfully removed from the Bureau by former Director James Comey.

Judicial Watch later filed a FOIA lawsuit against the U.S. Department of Justice for information about Comey’s memorandum written after his meeting with President Trump regarding potential interference by the Russians in the 2016 presidential election (Judicial Watch v. U.S. Department of Justice (No. 1:17-cv-01189).”

In July, Judicial Watch filed a FOIA lawsuit against the U.S. Department of Justice for the metadata for the memoranda written by Comey memorializing his conversations with President Donald Trump as well as records about Comey’s FBI-issued laptop computer or other electronic devices and records about how Comey managed his records while he was FBI Director (Judicial Watch, Inc., v. U.S. Department of Justice (No. 17-cv-01520)). The metadata information may include details about when the memos were created or edited and by whom."

Comey said during testimony before the Senate Intelligence Committee in June that he understood the memo to be “my recollection as a private citizen” and that he felt it was important to get it out. Trump responded with an angry tweet claiming that Comey’s decision to leak the memo was “so illegal.” During his Senate testimony, Comey described how he turned over the memo to a friend, later revealed to be Columbia Law Professor Daniel Richman, who eventually leaked it to the New York Times on Comey's behalf. We’ll see what Trump - who enjoys sticking it to his opponents and rivals when they're down - has to say about the suit, if anything. With the tense rhetoric and tensions surrounding the US and North Korea, the commander-in-chief may not have time for one of his favorite hobbies: Bashing the FBI and its former director.

Read the full lawsuit below at link above:

JW v. DOJ Comey Exit Records Complaint 01624 by zerohedge on Scribd

"Enough Psychotherapy!!
What a Wonderful Workout, Oxy!!
Now It's Time For Theology!!"

"If You Don't Know, Say 'I Don't Know.'"

QAnon Reveals Effort to Frame Russia in False Flag Nuclear Attack on US – the Fourth Reich Connection

Written by Dr Michael Salla on May 2, 2018. Posted in Featured, world politics

QAnon has repeatedly referred to the movie the Sum of All Fears in posts dating back to November 2017 that suggest the Deep State is involved in an effort to foment a nuclear false flag attack on the United States. In the most recent post QAnon explicitly says that a nuclear weapons facility being secretly assembled in Syria would use uranium that could be linked to Russia.

QAnon revealed that after a false flag nuclear attack on US territory, the uranium would be traced back to Russia, and the stage would be set for forcing the US military to launch a retaliation that would precipitate World War III.

Before examining QAnon’s posts, it’s worth repeating that the consensus of many analyzing his/her posts is that QAnon represents a group of very senior military intelligence officials working with the Trump Administration. According to Dr. Jerome Corsi, it was a group of three military generals that approached Trump to run for President in 2015, in order to help the US break free from Deep State control and prevent covert efforts to orchestrate World War III.

QAnon’s posts reveal the inner thinking of senior military intelligence officials connected to the Trump White House. The posts provide the general public a unique opportunity to fathom what is really happening in the rarefied world of military intelligence and special operations, despite mainstream media efforts to distract the public through fake news reports.

In the movie, The Sum of All Fears, the US and Russia come to the brink of war when a nuclear device is detonated in the city of Baltimore. The nuclear attack is blamed on Russia and the world stands on the brink of World War III until the movie’s main protagonist, a CIA analyst/Ben Affleck, shows the uranium used for the device was in fact a stolen US nuclear device.

Here’s what QAnon wrote on April 30:

There is much detailed intelligence data contained in this April 30 post that needs to be unpacked.

First, QAnon tells us that Iran had secretly built a nuclear facility in northern Syria:

   What if Iran created a classified ‘satellite’ Nuclear facility in Northern Syria?

   What if the program never ceased?

   What other bad actors are possibly involved?

The term “bad actors” is a reference to rogue operators that are linked to the Deep State, who enabled this nuclear facility to be secretly assembled. Presumably, Iran’s and Syria’s leadership was being tricked, manipulated or blackmailed, into building this secret nuclear facility that would be controlled by shadowy individuals linked to the Deep State.

It’s worth pointing out that QAnon has repeatedly said that the Deep State involves a global Satan worshiping group linked to the Rothschild family. This group uses its vast wealth and occult power to compromise politicians and elites around the world, which are subsequently controlled to do the Deep State’s bidding.

QAnon goes on to say that the nuclear material being used in this satellite Nuclear facility in Syria had been arranged by the Deep State:

    Where did the U1 material end up?

    Is this material traceable?

    Yes.

    Define cover.

    What if U1 material ended up in Syria?

    What would be the primary purpose?

    SUM OF ALL FEARS.

Here QAnon asserts that the Uranium One (U1) deal reached between the Obama administration and Russia back in 2009, when Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State, was designed to supply Russia with uranium that could be traced back to the US. The Deep State plan was to use the U1 uranium at the secret nuclear facility in Norther Syria, to build a nuclear device that would be detonated in the US.

The next part of the April 30 post says:

    In the movie, where did the material come from?

     What country?

    What would happen if Russia or another foreign state supplied Uranium to Iran/Syria?

    WAR.

    What does U1 provide?

    Define cover.

In the movie the uranium came from a US source. In the secret Iranian nuclear facility in northern Syria, the U1 uranium sold to Russia by the Obama administration, provided a means of incriminating Russia. According to QAnon, this would have led to WAR – a military retaliation by the US covertly planned to escalate to World War III.

QAnon’s next reference is important for understanding the real target of the US, French and British military strikes into Syria on April 14:

    Why did we strike Syria?

    Why did we really strike Syria?

    Define cover.

    Patriots n control.

    Q.

QAnon is telling us that the chemical weapons justification used by President Trump to authorize the strike was a charade, a cover. The US military was really targeting the secret nuclear facilities ostensibly controlled by Iran, but were in fact Deep State assets.

This would help explain why the Russians stood down in the US coalition attack on its ally, Syria. Russia was briefed in advance, and very likely approved the plan to take out the secret Iranian nuclear facility which it could not do itself given its alliance with Iran in the Syrian Civil War.

Furthermore, in the movie, the actors involved in the false flag attack is connected to a secretive neo-Nazi group. In a March 10 post, QAnon also links the effort to frame Russia in a nuclear attack on the US to a secretive Nazi group.

Here QAnon is suggesting that the North Koreans had likewise been helped by a Deep State/Nazi group that had supplied it secret nuclear assistance. After Kim Jong-Un realized that the Deep State had betrayed him by attempting to frame North Korea in a failed nuclear attack on Hawaii, the North Koreans decided to end their cooperation with the Deep State.

The failed false flag attack on Hawaii was therefore the real reason for North Korea’s change of heart and decision to cooperate with President Trump. As discussed in a previous article, the U.S. military shot down the ballistic missile intended to frame North Korea, and stood down its forces rather than retaliate against the North Koreans.

This is the meaning of the stage being set for “FREEDOM” for North Korea. Apparently, the same thing is happening now in Syria and Iran, by the Deep State’s Iranian satellite nuclear facility being destroyed in the US military strike.

The picture that is emerging from QAnon’s April 30, March 10 and other posts is that the repeated references to The Sum of All Fears movie is revealing a secretive effort by the Deep State to contrive a nuclear war through a false flag attack on the US.

QAnon’s information here dovetails well with my own research into a breakaway World War II Nazi group linked to occult secret societies that established underground facilities in South America and Antarctica.

This occult led Nazi group established a Fourth Reich possessing highly advanced weapons and aerospace vehicles that is a key pillar of a global control system established by Deep State Satan worshipers.

If I am interpreting QAnon’s posts correctly, then it is clear that The Sum of All Fears movie was a Deep State initiative to hide the truth in plain sight, which is a well-established occult principle.

QAnon is telling us that there is a global network of Deep State actors who are Satan worshipers that work closely with a secretive Nazi group that survived World War II. This Dark Alliance is intent on fomenting a catastrophic World War. Recent events in Syria and North Korea, firmly point to Presidents Trump and Putin secretly cooperating to put an end to these evil Deep State plans.

https://www.exopolitics.org/qanon-reveals-effort-to-frame-russia-in-false-flag-nuclear-attack-on-us-the-fourth-reich-connection/

orthodoxymoron wrote:I'm leaning toward the theory that just about everything is BS -- but we have to do the best we can with what's been placed on the table. The Bible seems to be BS in so many ways -- yet who wrote the BS?? Why did they write it?? I've been around a number of Ivy-League Theologians, and it's a humbling experience. I've tried to hint-at what Secret-Government Ivy-League Theologians might say about Life, the Universe, and Everything -- in the secrecy of an Underground-Base -- with no recordings or minutes. Just several hours of completely honest debate. I think there are many clues in the Bible, but it seems as if one has to sort of "go nuts" to start understanding the clues, and their relationship to historical and esoteric research. I am NOT a Bible-Thumper. I just think there really are Gods, Goddesses, Angels, and Demons. There really are things that go "BUMP!!" in the night!! I really think the God (and/or Goddess) of This World plays ALL Sides -- and might be the Best of the Best -- and the Worst of the Worst. If one were arguing with them, the GTW might be capable of arguing all-sides of any subject (in a very convincing manner). They might be capable of playing the parts of God, Jesus, Archangels, Satan, Preachers, Politicians, Rock-Stars, Completely Ignorant Fools, et al. I'm Sirius. I think I might've encountered them in several forms. The Bible is very well written BS (if that's what it is). I've been pointing toward a particular Bible Commentary, which is highly-scholarly (with a huge amount of contextual information). Encyclopedias just seem to be a way to get a multidisciplinary cross-section of the world we live in. Obviously, they sugar-coat a lot of stuff, but it might be a rather benign and neutral "place of beginning".

I just found out that I have serious organic health issues, which are probably affecting my mind. I'm probably going to require surgery. I doubt that will ultimately make everything better and happy, but apparently my "madness" is NOT "all in my head". I honestly think I've been targeted my whole-life, for a variety of reasons. The problem with this whole-mess is that I don't have enough information to make responsible judgments and conclusions. Not even close. I just get the impression that too many individuals on this forum (and in real-life) know more about me than I know about myself (and NOT in a good way). I think I'm screwed in more ways than I can imagine. I suspect that everyone will take advantage of everyone (if given the opportunity -- especially if they think no one will find-out what they're doing). I suspect that the History of Earth-Humanity has been VERY Well Documented -- Right From the Beginning. This Whole-Mess is Probably a HUGE Experiment. I'm not even going to attempt to convince ANYONE that I'm right about ANYTHING. I've placed certain things on the record within this website -- but I'm not sure why. I'm sure I'll pay dearly for my openness, honesty, irreverence, and innovation. No Good Deed Goes Unpunished. I'm trying to not post for a significant time-period -- so I might not respond to your comments or questions. Namaste, Godspeed, and Geronimo.

Pris wrote:

All the best to you always, Oxy, especially should you require surgery.

LOL yeah, I think you're right and pretty much everything is BS, too!  To put it lightly, it's annoying.  

One thing that bothers me about the Bible is how much it's been rewritten/altered, much deliberately.  So, all those who wrote it originally... whatever their message may have been has likely been lost or confounded to throw us off.  Certain individuals and groups of people going waaay back seem to rewrite history for their own ends.  But, we're starting to figure it out.  They didn't cover their tracks well enough.  And, we are capable of remembering and uncovering clues to our past no matter how hard they try to erase it.

This is just me -- I don't think there are literally 'Gods', 'Goddesses', 'Angels', and 'Demons'... I think there's just us.  When I say 'us', that includes any and all spirits driving physical bodies.  And, we concoct it all.  It's 'real' in the sense that 'energy flows where attention goes' and our intent/creator abilities shape our reality -- for good or bad.  Each individual's viewpoint is unique and 'real' to themselves but may not be 'real' to anyone else.  Belief and faith play a huge role in 'magic' and manifestation across multiple dimensions.  Some of us have pretty FAT heads and might think we are 'gods', but, that's about it.

Yes, roleplaying...  I think we enjoy playing different parts.  Maybe our existence is like a giant buffet, and we like to taste a little bit of everything.

Is this an experiment?  Possibly.  Maybe we didn't choose this.  On the other hand, maybe we set it up.  Maybe, it's a little bit of both.  Maybe this is all 'simply' consciousness, advanced as individuated entities...  And, here we are, learning, growing, playing... finding all different kinds of ways to express ourselves through the experience of life.  At the moment, we happen to be billions of individual voices expressing ourselves (and that doesn't even include the myriad of all other wonderful non-human life forms!) as we take on the challenge Earth provides.

Earth could also be a trap.  Anything is possible.  If there's a way in, there's a way out.  Awareness is the key.

"No Good Deed Goes Unpunished."  Really, Oxy?  Sounds like a sadomasochist came up with that one.  

Here on Earth, there seems to be 'something for everyone'.

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Carol wrote:Aloha Oxy. An upcoming surgery can be anxiety producing. Last year at this time after an MRI and confronted with some scary facts I got deeply depressed to where I just wanted to stay in bed with the covers up over my head. Needing cervical spinal surgery requiring 3 discs to be replaced totally freaked me out. What helped was talking to several other people that I knew who underwent a similar surgery and who had excellent results. We also tracked down previous medical records from a previous surgery to find out what went wrong and discovered that this one doc had upped a med that they NEVER give patients who are going in for surgery, so clearing up the mystery and having a good talk with my doctors helped a lot. What also helped was going online to research the surgery process. Sometimes learning as much as you can about the procedure is helpful at the emotional level. By the time I ended up in the OR I was joking around with the team and having an enjoyable time until the lights went out for the procedure.

Please keep us informed how things are going for you and know we're always here rooting for you.

As for your journal books that you keep here there really isn't any need to worry as most folks can't separate out fact from fiction, so you're likely covered and SAFE.

orthodoxymoron wrote:Thank-you Carol and Pris. I hope the surgical-results exceeded-expectations. My father had lower-back disk-surgery (involving the sciatic-nerve) with poor-results. The pain and suffering of that good and great man HUGELY Disillusioned me. Digging into the Historical and the Otherworldly is a Quagmire. What Would Dick Cheney Say?? This Present Illusion is SO Much Easier (for a while)!! I saw the contrast between the Church of My Youth -- and the Big-Shot Mega-Church Television-Shows -- and I understood the chemistry. Dr. Walter Martin told me that Dr. Robert H. Schuller taught a "Corrupt-Theology"!! He also told me that "The Kid Doesn't Have It!!" This was in reference to Dr. Schuller's son, Robert Anthony Schuller. BTW -- I have a couple of things in common with RAS. I might even have something in common with HAL and COR -- but I don't want to talk about it. I understand "Going With the Flow" and "Kicking Against the Pricks". My online-diary just scratches the surface of a VERY Nasty and Deadly Wound. I've hinted-at a lot of things I could've blatantly blurted-out.

I've suggested that my continued study in this area might honestly and truly put me in the nuthouse -- and completely discredit me as a viable-option. I should mention that once upon a time, a complete-stranger told me that the Human-Race and the Pauline-Epistles were Excellent!! Another complete-stranger told me that the Dr. Who Trial of a Time-Lord was essentially true. I continue to think there's a Solar-System War-Room where All is Known -- and that What is Known is NOT Nice!! I seem to be BOTH For and Against BOTH Humanity and Divinity!! This Present Madness seems to have EVERYTHING to Do with Ancient and Ongoing Star-Wars. I think I see how humanity has been played for thousands of years. The Ancient Egyptian Deity said "I've Always Remained One Step Ahead of Humanity!!" RA also told me "Humanity is Screwed!!" The AED said I would "Manifest My Bad-Side" and "Where You're Going It's Going to Be Dark!!" Oh Wretched Man That I Am!! That Nice Nuthouse in the Rockies (with Rooms with Views and Sexy Sex-Therapists) is looking better all the time!! Perhaps I could start a business in Colorado Springs!! What Would James Dobson Say?? BTW -- I've liked James Dobson for decades!!

Pris wrote:

That 'Ra' is such an overconfident p***k.  
So, he claims he's always remained (key point, past tense) one step ahead of humanity?

You can't fool all the people all the time.

Sure, humanity has been screwed (in some respects).  But, is screwed?...  
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.  
I'd say Ra's time is up (should he/it [imposter?] exist for 'real').

As for Ra saying you're going to manifest your 'bad side', Oxy, and 'where you're going it's going to be dark'...  
Big whoopie.  We ALL have a dark side.  It's called looking into the abyss and facing our deepest, darkest fears.  
It's a personal journey we all need to take.  Once you do that, you come to the realize 'there's nothing to fear but fear itself'.


It's about choosing your own path.  

When I look around, I see a crazy world, Oxy.  It's recently been suggested that I may have lost all touch with 'reality'...  
I take that as a compliment because it means I'm learning to see through this 'matrix' of bullshite and I just don't fit in anymore.  
In this insane world, people locked up in the 'nuthouse' are likely to be more sane than those on the 'outside'.

Hang in there, Oxy.  We're all in this together.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jb7Xdu7STx8
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"Thoth!! You're a Dick-Head!!  

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orthodoxymoron wrote:Thank-you Pris and Carol. The videos are no longer a problem for me (after loading some sort of Flash upgrade) -- but I have a heck of a time getting the posted-images to appear. Regarding the shunning -- I suspect that some of it is imagined -- some of it is real -- and some of it is just more of my online theatrics. I take real problems -- and enhance them with "script-writing". I'm confused and crazy -- but I do a lot of online acting -- which would be deceptive if I didn't keep telling everyone that's what I'm doing. But I suspect that my warnings are mostly not heeded -- which is part of the experiment. You know -- telling people what you're doing, and then see if they pay attention. I've come to the conclusion that's what the Bible does. There are certain key-phrases which change everything -- yet which are ignored by the major religions, churches, and theologians -- which would make sense if they're all controlled by the same guy and/or gal. What Would Amen Ra Do?? I'm almost to the point of wishing to move to a small mountain cabin (with or without a bunker-basement) and NOT have the internet. A telephone might be a necessary-evil. But just go as minimalist as possible -- yet make a decade-long study of the following seemingly boring sources:

1. The Best and Latest Set of Encyclopedias.

2. The Latest Version of the SDA Bible Commentary (Approximately 8,000 Pages of Core-Commentary with probably 5,000 pages of Supplementary-Material).

3. Sacred Classical Music (All of It).

The idea would be to go through all of the above (straight-through over and over) year after year. No UFO's. No Aliens. No PTB. No Conspiracy-Theories. No Violent and Horrific Science-Fiction Movies. No Corrupt Politicians, Bankers, CEO's, et al. Just hour-long hikes -- chopping wood -- gardening -- looking at the planets with a 16" Dobsonian telescope -- etc.  Perhaps they have a Nice Nuthouse in the Rockies (with Rooms with Views and Sexy Sex-Therapists)!! Hope Springs Eternal.

Pris wrote:

orthodoxymoron wrote:1. The Best and Latest Set of Encyclopedias.

The 'best', Oxy?  The best of what?  A soup of fiction laced with a carefully planted factual crumb or two just to throw you off?  Have fun with that one.

Over the years, I've gotten rid of some of my 'mainstream' informational books because I see now how they are so much in error.

Bullshite will have you going in circles indefinitely when there is no clear delineation between a lie and a truth...  Doesn't it make more sense to study possible truth (from more trustworthy sources) rather than what you know to be outright BS for answers?  That's just me.

Unless you're one of those people who get a kick out of reading BS purely for its entertainment value... (like the Bible lol... even I have some curiosity about the Bible but prefer to have a guide take me on the Official BS Tour and hit on all the high points packed into one fun-filled afternoon rather than waste my time diving in on my own)

It's good to hear you upgraded your Flash and your videos are working now, btw.
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orthodoxymoron wrote:I appreciate your work on this thread, Bob. I guess I'm dealing with the same problem from a completely different angle on "my" thread. I wonder how many people really study this sort of thing on an ongoing basis. Probably not very many. This sort of thing is probably not what people want to hear about. But if and when TSHTF people will cry "Why Wasn't I Told??!!" and "Why Weren't We Warned??!!" But just knowing about this stuff is probably not a preparation or prevention. It's probably more of a morbid-curiosity than anything. On the other hand, I keep applying this sort of thing to ethical, legal, political, and theological science-fiction (which will hopefully help someone somewhere). I agonize because I can. But realistically, ignorance is bliss and a virtue. "Drink the Kool-Aid and Get Back to Work!!"

Eartheart wrote:  ied and this was all i could get out of your list:
Blessings Beloved Light Tribe

We yet monitor 'real time' growth on our Divine Ascension Journeys into the Nowhere as the Starhuman spheres we are.
The pathway has been cleared...and it is up to each of us to now follow our Souls guidance in prayer, faith in trust, in what ever we are going through.
‘I permit myself to see, sense and acknowledge beyond the physical reality to recognise the truth essence of the Creator.’
‘I choose to connect with and embrace the truth essence of the Creator within every person and situation.’
‘I trust in the truth essence of the Creator within every person and situation as I recognise it to be a reflection of my truth.’
‘I acknowledge and gratefully receive the wisdom, guidance, healing and empowerment which flows forth to me from the truth essence of the Creator.’
‘I honour the truth within me and the guidance it shares through my being.
I honour the reflection of my truth in others and situations, thank you.’
Goddess of Creation ~ Create an Expanded Reality, a  beyond in quantum Loove...

Soon, you will live, surprise after surprise. In amazing wonder and Glory. And you will fully be in the arrived state of being.
In the magic of it all. In love with life. In love with yourself. In love, with every breath you take. And so it is.
In the magical Bliss, of All That is...
That's the ultimate process, always. To dissolve any form and information in the mindless, time-less and space-less
Radiant Essence of Divine Being...
That Is our True Nature. Undying, Eternal. Pure, Refreshing.

Blissful and self-fulfilled—Sovereign—outside reality is a product of the love we hold, the beauty, the magic, the brilliance, the respect, the integrity, the light....
For those existing AS energy, this brings your dreams, desires, opportUNITIES on fast! Embrace loves!!!!! This is what we all worked for.

Are you ready? It's always JUMP time in a postjump space! We honor you, dear ones, and ask you three things only: To treat each other with respect. To nurture one another at every opportunity and do not forget to play well together.
Heavenlys arise.

1 Corinthians 15:19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men the most pitiable.
Matthew 24:32  
“Now learn the parable from the fig tree: when its branch has already become tender and puts forth its leaves, you know that summer is near; King James Bible

(This is referring to a Spiritual DNA Awakening foretold in Hosea 6th chapter and has nothing to do with fake israel that decietfully became a nation in 1948 and stole our land & heritage, propagated by lies from false prophets, false preachers, and false teaches. The Fig Tree Is Real Hebrew Israel And The Branches Are The Branches Of DNA That Currently Are Domant And Need To Be Activated. The Spiritual DNA will begin to Bloom when the 3 Days Of Darkness Cosmic Burst DNA Activation Holy Spirit Rain Event Occurs In Which The THIEF-ISHI WILL COME IN THE NIGHT. We Have Spiritual 12 Strand DNA And When They Are Activated Our Spiritual Angelic Powers Will Begin To Manifest In The Flesh, PSALMS 82:6)

Psalm 82:6
I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the Most High. (We Are Like Transformers More Than Meets The Eye….Because The WORD of THE MOST HIGH is inside of us Hebrews, even within our souls and bones-Fire or Spirit is shut up in our bones-12 STRAND ROOT DNA. Governments will call us aliens when we activate-ignite and we will become radiaoactive even emitting light, glowing blue and green when the Spiritual DNA Is Activated. The Song By Imagine Dragons “RADIOACTIVE” Spoke About This Future DNA Activation Event And Changing Of The Cosmic Age To The Age Of Aquarius…THE AGE OF THE OUTPOURING OF THE SPIRIT OF THE MOST HIGH ON ALL OF CREATION…ALL RIGHTEOUS BEINGS BECOMING LIKE HIS FIRST BEGOTTEN SON, ISHI, Hosea 2:16. SELAH)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Coming The Second Coming (sometimes called the Second Advent or the Parousia) is primarily a Christian concept regarding a future return of Jesus to Earth after his "first coming" and ascension to heaven about two thousand years ago. The belief is based on messianic prophecies found in the canonical gospels and is part of most Christian eschatologies. Views about the nature of Jesus' Second Coming vary among Christian denominations and among individual Christians.

Most English versions of the Nicene Creed include the following statements: "...he ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, and his kingdom will have no end. ... We look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come."

Several different terms are used to refer to the Second Coming of Christ:

In the New Testament, the Greek word ?p?f??e?a (epiphaneia, appearing) is used five times to refer to the return of Christ.[1]

The Greek New Testament uses the Greek term parousia (pa???s?a, meaning "arrival", "coming", or "presence") twenty-four times, seventeen of them concerning Christ.[2] The word is also used six times referring to individuals (Stephanas, Fortunatus and Achaicus,[1Co.16:17] Titus,[2Co. 7:6-72] and Paul the Apostle [2Co. 10:10][Phil 1][2:12]) and one time referring to the "coming of the lawless one".[2Thes 2:9]

The etymology of the Greek word parousia is related to para "beside" ousia "presence". In English "parousia" always has a special, Christian meaning.[3]

The Lexicon of Joseph Henry Thayer defines the Greek word parousia as Strong's G3952:

...In the N. T. [New Testament] esp. [especially] of the advent, i.e., the future, visible, return from heaven of Jesus, the Messiah, to raise the dead, hold the last judgment, and set up formally and gloriously the kingdom of God.[2]

The Bauer-Danker Lexicon provides the definition:

...of Christ, and nearly always of his Messianic Advent in glory to judge the world at the end of this age.

The Catholic Encyclopedia article on the "General judgment" states:[4]

In the New Testament the second Parousia, or coming of Christ as Judge of the world, is an oft-repeated doctrine. The Saviour Himself not only foretells the event but graphically portrays its circumstances (Matthew 24:27 sqq. [Olivet Discourse]; Matthew sqq. [Judgment of the Nations]). The Apostles give a most prominent place to this doctrine in their preaching (Acts 10:42,Acts) and writings (Romans 2:5-16; 14:10; 1 Cor. 4:5; 2 Cor. 5:10; 2 Tim. 4:1; 2 Thess 1:5; James 5:7). Besides the name Parusia (parousia), or Advent (1 Cor. 15:23, 2 Thes. 2:1-9), the second coming is also called Epiphany, epiphaneia, or Appearance (2 Thes. 2:8; 1 Tim. 6:14; 2 Tim. 4:1; Titus 2:13) and Apocalypse (apokalypsis), or Revelation (2 Thess. 2:7 1 Pet. 4:13). The time of the second coming is spoken of as "that Day" (2 Tim. 4: "the day of the Lord" (1 Thess. 5:2), "the day of Christ" (Phil 1:6), "the day of the Son of Man" (Luke 17:30), and "the last day" (John 6:39-40).

Gustav Adolf Deissmann (1908)[5] showed that the Greek word parousia occurred as early as the 3rd century BC to describe the visit of a king or dignitary to a city - a visit arranged in order to show the visitor's magnificence to the people. The Roman advent coins struck by the cities of Corinth and Patras for Nero's visit reveals the correspondence between the Greek "parousia" and the Latin "Adventus" and their relationship to the Greek word "epiphany" that means "appearing".[citation needed]

According to historian Charles Freeman, early Christians expected Jesus to return within a generation of his death and the non-occurrence of the second coming surprised the early Christian communities.[6]

Children, it is the last hour; and just as you heard that Antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have appeared; from this we know that it is the last hour. —?1 John 2:18

The position associating the Second Coming with 1st century events such as the destruction of Jerusalem and of the Jewish Temple in AD 70 is known as Preterism.[7]

Some Preterists see this "coming of the Son of Man in glory" primarily fulfilled in Jesus' death on the cross. They believe the apocalyptic signs are already fulfilled including "the sun will be dark",[8] the "powers ... will be shaken,"[9] and "then they will see".[10] Yet some critics note many are missing such as "But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up." (2 Peter 3:10)[11] And "Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory." (Matthew 24:30)[12]

Some, such as Jerome, interpret the phrase "this generation" to mean lifetime of the Jewish race; however, other scholars believe that if Jesus meant "race" he would have used genos (race) not genea (generation).[13][14]

Most English versions of the Nicene Creed in current use include the following statements about Jesus: "...he ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, and his kingdom will have no end. ... We look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen."

It is the traditional view of Roman Catholics and Orthodox Christians, preserved from the early Church, that the second coming will be a sudden and unmistakable incident, like "a flash of lightning".[Mt 24] They hold the general view that Jesus will not spend any time on the earth in ministry or preaching.[15] They also agree that the ministry of the Antichrist will take place right before the Second Coming.[15]

Orthodox layman Alexander Kalomiros explains the original Church's position regarding the Second Coming in River of Fire[16] and Against False Union,[17] stating that those who contend that Christ will reign on earth for a thousand years "do not wait for Christ, but for the Antichrist." The idea of Jesus returning to this earth as a king is a heretical concept to the Church, equated to "the expectations of the Jews who wanted the Messiah to be an earthly King." The Church instead teaches that which it has taught since the beginning—Christ will not return to earth, rather the Kingdom of Heaven, the New Jerusalem, will be established through the Resurrection of the dead.

The many denominations of Protestantism have differing views on the exact details of Christ's second coming. Only a handful of Christian organizations claim complete and authoritative interpretation of the typically symbolic and prophetic biblical sources.

A short reference to the second coming is contained in the Nicene Creed: "He [Jesus] shall come again in glory to judge the living and the dead; and His kingdom shall have no end." An analogous statement is also in the biblical Pauline Creed.[1Cor 15:23].

Some Lutheran, Anglican and United Methodist liturgies proclaim the Mystery of Faith to be: "Christ has died, Christ is risen, Christ will come again."  [Anglican Church of Canada, Book of Alternative Services, p 195]

In Rosicrucian esoteric Christian teaching, there is a clear distinction between the cosmic Christ, or Christ without, and the Christ within.[18] According to this tradition, the Christ within is regarded as the true Saviour who needs to be born within each individual[19] in order to evolve toward the future Sixth Epoch in the Earth's etheric plane, that is, toward the "new heavens and a new earth":[20] the New Galilee.[21] The Second Coming or Advent of the Christ is not in a physical body,[22] but in the new soul body of each individual in the etheric plane of the planet[23] where man "shall be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air."[24] The "day and hour" of this event is not known.[25] The esoteric Christian tradition teaches that first there will be a preparatory period as the Sun enters Aquarius, an astrological concept, by precession: the coming Age of Aquarius.[26]

Latter-day Saints have particularly distinct and specific interpretations of what are considered to be signs stated in the Book of Revelation.[27] Their scriptures say that Christ will return, as stated in the Bible. Their church also teaches that "When the Savior comes again, He will come in power and glory to claim the earth as His kingdom. His Second Coming will mark the beginning of the Millennium. The Second Coming will be a fearful, mournful time for the wicked, but it will be a day of peace for the righteous."[28]

Fundamental Belief #25 of the Seventh-day Adventist Church states:

The second coming of Christ is the blessed hope of the church, the grand climax of the gospel. The Saviour's coming will be literal, personal, visible, and worldwide. When He returns, the righteous dead will be resurrected, and together with the righteous living will be glorified and taken to heaven, but the unrighteous will die. The almost complete fulfillment of most lines of prophecy, together with the present condition of the world, indicates that Christ's coming is imminent. The time of that event has not been revealed, and we are therefore exhorted to be ready at all times. (Titus 2:13; Heb. 9:28; John 14:1-3; Acts 1:9-11; Matt. 24:14; Rev. 1:7; Matt. 24:43, 44; 1 Thess. 4:13-18; 1 Cor. 15:51-54; 2 Thess. 1:7-10; 2:8; Rev. 14:14-20; 19:11-21; Matt. 24; Mark 13; Luke 21; 2 Tim. 3:1-5; 1 Thess. 5:1-6.)[29]

Jehovah's Witnesses rarely use the term "second coming", preferring the term "presence" as a translation of parousia.[30] They believe that Jesus' comparison of "the presence of the Son of man" with "the days of Noah" at Matthew 24:37–39 and Luke 17:26–30 suggests a duration rather than a moment of arrival.[31] They also believe that biblical chronology points to 1914[32] as the start of Christ's "presence", which continues until the final battle of Armageddon. Other biblical expressions they correlate with this period include "the time of the end" (Dan 12:4), "the conclusion of the system of things" (Matt 13:40,49; 24:3) and "the last days" (2 Tim 3:1; 2 Peter 3:3).[33][34] Witnesses believe Christ's millennial reign begins after Armageddon.[35]

Recent surveys show that about 40% of Americans believe that Jesus is likely to return by 2050. This varies from 58% of white evangelical Christians, through 32% of Catholics to 27% of white mainline protestants.[36]

Belief in the Second Coming was popularized in the US in the late nineteenth century by the evangelist Dwight Moody and the premillennial interpretation became one of the core components of fundamentalism in the 1920s.

Some Christians writings say that there will be a great deception before the Second Coming of Christ. In Matthew 24, Jesus states:

If anyone says to you then, 'Look, here is the Messiah!' or, 'There he is!' do not believe it. False messiahs and false prophets will arise, and they will perform signs and wonders so great as to deceive, if that were possible, even the elect.

—?Matthew 24:21, 24 (NAB)

Ellen G. White, the early Seventh-day Adventist leader, wrote:

As the crowning act in the great drama of deception, Satan himself will impersonate Christ. The church has long professed to look to the Saviour's advent as the consummation of her hopes. Now the great deceiver will make it appear that Christ has come. In different parts of the earth, Satan will manifest himself among men as a majestic being of dazzling brightness, resembling the description of the Son of God given by John in the Revelation. (Revelation 1:13-15). The glory that surrounds him is unsurpassed by anything that mortal eyes have yet beheld. The shout of triumph rings out upon the air: "Christ has come! Christ has come!" The people prostrate themselves in adoration before him, while he lifts up his hands and pronounces a blessing upon them, as Christ blessed His disciples when He was upon the earth. His voice is soft and subdued, yet full of melody. In gentle, compassionate tones he presents some of the same gracious, heavenly truths which the Saviour uttered; he heals the diseases of the people, and then, in his assumed character of Christ, he claims to have changed the Sabbath to Sunday, and commands all to hallow the day which he has blessed.

—?The Great Controversy, p. 624[37]

A number of specific dates have been predicted for the Second Coming of Christ, some now in the distant past, others still in the future.

Victor J. Stenger notes that Jesus is recorded as saying, " ...there are some standing here, which shall not taste death, till they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom ", Matt 16:28. He makes similar predictions in four other places in the Gospels; Mark 9:1, Mark 13:30, Matt 24:34, Luke 9:27. In Stenger's view, when the coming did not happen within the life-times of his disciples, as Jesus prophesied, Christianity changed its emphasis to the Resurrection and promise of eternal life.[38]

Bahá'u'lláh announced that the Return of Christ, understood as a reappearance of the Word and Spirit of God, was manifest in His Person. Baha'u'llah wrote to Pope Pius IX, "He Who is the Lord of Lords is come overshadowed with clouds...He, verily, hath again come down from Heaven even as He came down from it the first time. Beware that thou dispute not with Him even as the Pharisees disputed with Him without a clear token or proof."[39] He goes on to refer to Himself as the Ancient of Days and the Pen of Glory.[40] Baha'u'llah also said in this connection: "This is the Father foretold by Isaiah, and the Comforter concerning Whom the Spirit had covenanted with you. Open your eyes, O concourse of bishops, that ye may behold your Lord seated upon the Throne of might and glory."[41] Baha'u'llah also wrote,"Say: We, in truth, have given Ourself as a ransom for your own lives. Alas, when We came once again, We beheld you fleeing from Us, whereat the eye of My loving-kindness wept sore over My people."[40] Followers of the Bahá'í Faith believe that the fulfillment of the prophecies of the second coming of Jesus, as well as the prophecies of the Maitreya and many other religious prophecies, were begun by the Báb in 1844 and then by Bahá'u'lláh.[42] They commonly compare the fulfillment of Christian prophecies to Jesus' fulfillment of Jewish prophecies, where in both cases people were expecting the literal fulfillment of apocalyptic statements. Bahá'ís claim that the return of Christ with a new name parallels the return of Elijah in John the Baptist as stated by Jesus in the Gospels.[43][44]

In Islam, Jesus (or Isa; Arabic: ?????? ?Isa) is considered to be a Messenger of God and the Masih (messiah) who was sent to guide the Israelites (bani isra'il) with a new scripture, the Injil.[45] The belief in Jesus (and all other messengers of God) is required in Islam, and a requirement of being a Muslim. In the Quran, the second coming of Jesus is heralded in surah Az-Zukhruf as a sign of the day of judgement.

And (Jesus) shall be a Sign (for the coming of) the Hour (of Judgment): therefore have no doubt about the (Hour), but follow ye Me: this is a Straight Way. 43:61[46]

In his famous interpretation of the Qur'an or Tafsir al-Qur'an al-Azim, Ibn kathir also uses this verse as proof of Jesus' second coming in the Qur'an. [47]

There are also Hadiths that clearly foretell of Jesus' future return such as:[48] Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 43: Kitab-ul-`Ilm (Book of Knowledge), Hâdith Number 656:

The Hour will not be established until the son of Mary (i.e. Jesus) descends amongst you as a just ruler, he will break the cross, kill the pigs, and abolish the Jizya tax. Money will be in abundance so that nobody will accept it (as charitable gifts).

According to Islamic tradition, Jesus' descent will be in the midst of wars fought by the Mahdi (lit. "the rightly guided one"), known in Islamic eschatology as the redeemer of Islam, against the Masih ad-Dajjal (literally "false messiah", synonymous with the Antichrist) and his followers.[49] Jesus will descend at the point of a white arcade, east of Damascus, dressed in yellow robes—his head anointed. He will then join the Mahdi in his war against the Dajjal. Jesus, considered in Islam as a Muslim (one who submits to God) and one of God's messengers, will abide by the Islamic teachings. Eventually, Jesus will slay the Antichrist Dajjal, and then everyone from the People of the Book (ahl al-kitab, referring to Jews and Christians) will believe in him. Thus, there will be one community, that of Islam. Sahih Muslim, 41:7023

Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until the son of Mary (Mariam) (i.e. Jesus) descends amongst you as a just ruler, he will break the cross, kill the pigs, and abolish the Jizya tax. Money will be in abundance so that nobody will accept it (as charitable gifts)."

After the death of the Mahdi, Jesus will assume leadership. This is a time associated in Islamic narrative with universal peace and justice. Islamic texts also allude to the appearance of Ya'juj and Ma'juj (known also as Gog and Magog), ancient tribes which will disperse and cause disturbance on earth. God, in response to Jesus's prayers, will kill them by sending a type of worm in the napes of their necks.[49] Jesus's rule is said to be around forty years, after which he will die, (according to Islam Jesus did not die on the cross but was taken up to heaven and continues to live until his return in the second coming). Muslims will then perform the Salat al-Janazah (funeral prayer) for him and bury him in the city of Medina in a grave left vacant beside Muhammad.[48]

The Ahmadi sect, who identify as Muslims, believe that the promised Mahdi and Messiah arrived in the person of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (1835–1908). This is rejected by other Muslims, who consider the Ahmadiyya not to be Muslims.

The hadith (sayings of the Islamic Prophet Muhammad) and the Bible indicated that Jesus would return during the latter days. Islamic tradition commonly depicts that Jesus, upon his second coming, would be an Ummati (Muslim) and a follower of Muhammad and that he would revive the truth of Islam rather than fostering a new religion.

The Ahmadiyya movement interpret the Second Coming of Jesus prophesied as being that of a person "similar to Jesus" (mathil-i ?Isa) and not his physical return, in the same way as John the Baptist resembled the character of the biblical prophet Elijah in Christianity. Ahmadis believe that Ghulam Ahmad demonstrated that the prophecy in Muslim and Christian religious texts were traditionally misunderstood to suggest that Jesus of Nazareth himself would return, and hold that Jesus had survived the crucifixion and had died a natural death. Ahmadis consider Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (the founder of the movement), in both his character and teachings, to be representative of Jesus; and subsequently, he attained the same spiritual rank of Prophethood as Jesus. Thus, Ahmadis believe this prediction was fulfilled and continued by his movement.[50][51]

Judaism believes that Jesus is one of the false Jewish Messiah claimants because he failed to fulfill any Messianic prophecies, which include:

1.Build the Third Temple (Ezekiel 37:26-28).
2.Gather all Jews back to the Land of Israel (Isaiah 43:5-6).
3.Usher in an era of world peace, and end all hatred, oppression, suffering and disease. As it says: "Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall man learn war anymore." (Isaiah 2:4)
4.Spread universal knowledge of the God of Israel, which will unite humanity as one. As it says: "God will be King over all the world ? on that day, God will be One and His Name will be One" (Zechariah 14:9).[52]

Regarding the Christian idea that these prophecies will be fulfilled during a "second coming," Ohr Samayach states "we find this to be a contrived answer, since there is no mention of a second coming in the Jewish Bible. Second, why couldn't God accomplish His goals the first time round?"[53] Rabbi David Wolpe believes that the Second Coming was "grown out of genuine disappointment" and invented by Christians to theologically compensate for Jesus' death.

In modern times some traditional Indian religious leaders have moved to embrace Jesus as an avatar, or incarnation, of God. In light of this, the Indian guru Paramahansa Yogananda, author of Autobiography of a Yogi, wrote an extensive commentary on the Gospels published in 2004 in the two-volume set The Second Coming of Christ: The Resurrection of the Christ Within You.[54] The book offers a mystical interpretation of the Second Coming in which it is understood to be an inner experience, something that takes place within the individual heart. In the introduction of this book, Yogananda wrote that the true Second Coming is the resurrection within you of the Infinite Christ Consciousness. Also stated in the Book of Luke - "Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you." (Luke 17:21)

Daya Mata wrote in the preface of The Second Coming of Christ that the "two-volume scriptural treatise thus represents the inclusive culmination of Paramahansa Yogananda's divine commission to make manifest to the world the essence of original Christianity as taught by Jesus Christ." In sharing her memories of when she wrote down his words, she shares - "the great Guru, his face radiantly enraptured, as he records for the world the inspired exposition of the Gospel teachings imparted to him through direct, personal communion with Jesus of Nazareth."[54] Larry Dossey, M.D., wrote that "Paramahansa Yogananda’s The Second Coming of Christ is one of the most important analyses of Jesus’ teachings that exists....Many interpretations of Jesus’ words divide peoples, cultures, and nations; these foster unity and healing, and that is why they are vital for today’s world."[55]

Jesus Christ returning to earth has been a theme in several movies and books, for example:
Black Jesus - Comedy Central Adult Swim Television Series (2014- ) created by Aaron McGruder and Mike Clattenburg, tells the story of Jesus living in modern-day Compton, California, and his efforts to spread love and kindness on a daily basis. He is supported in his mission by a small-but-loyal group of downtrodden followers, while facing conflicts involving corrupt preachers, ethnic tensions, and the hate spreading activities of the manager of his apartment complex.
Left Behind - Film- and book-franchise (1995- ) built by Tim LaHaye and Jerry B. Jenkins based on the time-period before, during and after the Second Coming of Christ.
The Seventh Sign - 1988 film starring Demi Moore about a pregnant lady who discovers the Second Coming of Christ has rented a room from her, in order to begin the countdown that will trigger the Apocalypse.
End of Days - 1999 action-adventure film starring Arnold Schwarzenegger about a policeman who must stop Satan before he ends the world.
SCARS: Christian Fiction End-Times Thriller by Patience Prence - 2010 novel about a girl named Becky who struggles through the time of the Great Tribulation.[56]
At the End of All Things by Stony Graves - 2011 novel about the days following the Rapture, and right before the Final War between God and Satan.[57]
The Second Coming: A Love Story by Scott Pinsker - 2014 novel about two men who claim to be the Second Coming of Christ. Each claims that the other is a liar - but only one is telling the truth.[58]
Thief In the Night by William Sears - The popular TV and radio personality plays the role of a detective in writing a book about identifying the clues and symbols from the Biblical prophecies of the return of the Christ that have been overlooked or misunderstood, and settles on a shocking conclusion (2002) [1961]. Oxford, UK: George Ronald. ISBN 0-85398-008-X.

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blue roller wrote:Got a busy day today so I will have to keep this brief .

The power of Pipe organs (yes I do know quite a lot about them) is that you can hold chords indefinitely right ? So regardless of whether you prefer mechanical/ tracker action or electro pneumatic , pipe Organs are powerful tools as indeed are all musical instruments.

I am very partial to the fiery reeds of Cavaille Coll and I LOVE  Frank . The two CD set from saint Sulpice is one of my favorite recordings ever.

But I also like the north German school of organ building .

If you must obsess about the Bible then the king James version is probably the only version worth the candle . Yes , it is enciphered and I am sure John Nash would be able to tell you more about that side of encryption than I can .

My grandfather was a cryptanalyst at Bletchley Park. Unfortunately AGAIN , LIKE ALL USEFUL GEN , ITS BEEN REMOVED.

If your going to worry about what people know , know this . All the crap you feel guilty about , they have done it too . So its all even in the end.

Here's a book you should check out . Its way older than the Bible , goes back to the very beggining and every body has a copy . It can be corrupted slightly but the core Data is always authentic . Its fully annotated and comes with an exhaustive reference library . Its fully reproducible , you get a free copy with every life and you can share information at no charge or fear of copyright infringement.

Its Called , wait for it ...............DNA.

You are your most valuable prophet Orthy. Not me or anyone else . You have to stop beating yourself up to get peace . Masturbation is nothing to be ashamed of . If god was to punish every guy that did that there would be no men left on the planet for crying out loud . As long as you diminish yourself you will not give yourself what you really need .

Go to an escort , seriously .You dont have to have sex if you dont want to. Ask her what you need to get it right . She is being payed to give you objective advice . She has nothing invested in messing you up because she wants you to be a satisfied customer right ? A shrink wont give you the physical connection your body craves . Sexual intimacy unlocks DNA . That's why the churches frown on it and demonize it.

You think you are ugly ? Rubbish . What have you got to loose by asking a female associate or friend 'okay whats the price of admission , how do I get to first base ?' Women will find your blunt directness refreshing and they LOVE giving advice . Take it with a pinch of salt ,get a second opinion of course and enjoy the process .

Was Nash a Sexy beast Physically ? He still got lucky. Its all relative Orthy. Stop making excuses and hiding behind your bible . Its not big enough to hide behind anyway . You can do this . I want answers man , Damn it!

Go forth , orth . Your time is now.

blue roller wrote:Oh and one more thing before I dash . Don't get advice from the women on this forum, Worst mistake you could make . They are mostly to neurotic and in denial . All this spiritual posturing is just that . They are mostly lonely, angry and in denial . They wont give you any straight Gen . They see your insecurity and it mirrors their own . So they are just going to ride you for cheap kicks and beat you up . Its like looking for love in a country and western Tavern . All you will get is broken teeth and a pool cue wrapped around your kidneys.

There is a real world out there . Did you know Bach got caught having sex with his wife in the Organ Loft Once ? You go , Johann . Dude .

Bach was no fool. He knew he was a ghost in the machine . But what a legacy he left . Talk about your hardcore Passion of Mathew . Rock on you crazy German Diamond .

I have met that Organist in person . She is one Horny Babe . Talk about a flirt . Why is it that most male organists are gay and most female organists are dare I say it here , Horn bags ?  Woa , I said it . Oh now I am in trouble . The lord will come in fury and Strike me down ! NOT.

You know all that Masonic Crap about Boaz and Joachim ? The twin pillars ? You know what it really means ? A woman's legs and the gateway to heaven that lies between them . That , my friend is what that really means .

blue roller wrote:I have lost count of the number of Christians I knew personally when I lived in the US who read their Bible in the toilet at work while their marriages fell apart from neglect ,guilt and self righteous indignation brought on by the impossible demands of the ten commandments .

I mean please , thous shalt not covet thy Neighbors wife ? There is not a man on the planet who has not done that . Its impossible to comply with such a demand . I knew a christian pastor who's wife was sleeping with the previous pastor of their church . One wrecked family later this guy has lost everything trying to be a 'good christian'.

Why are Americans so fanatical about religion ? Because their nation was founded by fanatics ,that's why . Salem Witch hunts, the genocide of 100 million native Americans. And now ,the war on terror . Or in plain speak , AMERICAN IMPERIALISM. Guilt ridden fanatics always project their guilt on to the innocent. ANd who owns congress now ? The Jewish Lobby.

The Bible is a play book for war by the ultimate terrorist , Jehovah . You know . The guy that wiped out a whole planet . Nuked two cities and encouraged Abraham to kill his own son and sleep with his own daughters ? Hello . There is nothing civilized about the old testament.

A NEW SONG
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orthodoxymoron

blue roller wrote:The tricky part with all this Orthy is separating the personal from the general when I express an opinion.

While I cant say I agree with everything Christina Rad says , Damn she's Hot , and I dont mean just to look at . You dont have to agree with everything a person says to like them or admire them .

Its a shame that humanity puts so much guilt on attraction and passion. I am shameless when it comes to complementing women , even if I dont agree with their politics ,religion .

That's the thing that's hard to quantify , a persons spirit. Who are we to say they are wrong ? Maybe they need to be wrong in order to experience what they need to get on.

I have been wrong so many times and I am still getting things wrong I'm sure. But i needed to get it wrong before I got it righter , not absolutely right, but righter in the sense of more balanced , more content ,getting better results and being at peace ,happy.

Interesting thing is I find when I ask myself why is that person so angry ? its like turning on a magnifying glass and your brain starts to analyze the exterior of that persons gestures, voice , smile or lack of it.

We are all looking for whats missing in our selves and others . Strangely its easier to see other people's lacks than our own . But if you get out there and relate to them regardless its going to give you useful feedback .

I come here to stimulate my mind and see if I can connect with a person at a genuine level without the baggage static . Everybody is looking for the one person and yet the many are one and every interaction is at some level sexual . Not overtly physically sexual , but exchanging information /ideas is intimate ,even if a person has all their defenses up .

Men and Women love to flirt with ideas and beliefs . There's  nearly always a sexual dance to interactions . The more a person denies that ,the chances are the more they are suppressing their need for intimacy .

Having said that , in practice, full on sexual intimacy that is comfortable warm and truly honest ? Well you are not going to find that with others until you have brought yourself to the party without the baggage.

I have seen women fall head over heels for a man who may be physically in theory a plain type . BUT the inner strength that they have built up is way sexier to women. Women never ever respect men for being weak and immature . They want inner strength and they know what it takes for a man to get there . Few men stand on their own feet long enough to become themselves .

When I was young I took crazy risks and did crazy stuff . Worked with trailer trash and bad asses . I saw the America that most Americans fear to get close to . But I loved it . I loved being on the edge even when I was thinking "holy Sh111t ,these guys are freaking dangerous". I faced fear many times and realized something important . Its the down at heel that reach out hardest to feel. It all comes out wrong because they are insecure and have low self esteem , but they taught me more than my most favorite books ever could about life . Bar fights , drugs, violence , acts of desperation and despair . Never mind the Hollywood BS . Reality beats reality TV hands down.

I used to love to talk to waitresses .American waitresses can teach you more about life than some spoiled ivy league princess with a Psych degree ever could .Because they live on the edge . Not in the Hedge.

Every now and then though ,the angels take you under their wing and they often disguise themselves as Bikers ,whores and tramps ! Yes .We are talking ET's with multiple degree's . Not just in physics and the arts , but LIFE. They LOVE coming here to get down and dirty with Humans . Its like being in a gangster movie only for real. And if they get killed during the trip , that's like GOLD STAR experience .

"You got Killed in a Bar in LA ? On Santa Monica Boulevard ? "

"Yep it was awesome . I was talking to an underage hooker and her pimp just wasted me with a .40 cal Glock !"

" Dude , I TOTALLY have to try that ."

Life is such an awesome experience and if this is Hell , its a Helluva trip.

blue roller wrote:You know what I found out when I turned Fourty ? I was standing/living on top of what is probably the Biggest most important ET underground base in the southern Hemisphere .

No biggy really . There is a string of them all around the coast line of Australia. Way more important than that piddly ass base in new Mexico.

You can always tell your living near a GENUINE ET base . There is a certain Buzz , a sense of expansiveness . Because you are literally living next to a gateway to the stars . So while most ET's walking the streets here stay incognito , occasionally they will drop their disguise to say hello .

Its nice and I promise you its no big deal once you get past the WTF phase .

This tiny backwater planet is kind of the hicksville of this quadrant. Well it is basically . The first thing any human would notice about the many species of females they may bump in to here is that they are strong, Sexy ,relaxed and comfortable in their own skins . Kinda like Charlies Angels. The guys are easy going and relaxed. No strutting or posing . No rudeness or arrogance .

There are Humanoids out there that you would not superficially pick for ET's  but you can feel they are different . This does not freak me out at all. But it makes most earth humans VERY uncomfortable . Nervous , angry , suspicious ,resentful. Its kind of like the reception I get on Forums.

I had one lady walk up my drive way to say hello one day , Fighter Pilot . Drop dead sexy but not in a slutty pole dancer way . Platinum blond hair and very pale skin . Massive blue blue eye's. She could not talk as long as I would have liked but it was wonderful. Physical beauty is nice but inner beauty ,that's the biggest turn on.

Sometimes I wish I could just sit and stare at  them but its a tad rude to do that. So I pay the complement and sincere complements are always appreciated. Its not that ET Chicks go out to attract sexual attention or flaunt it .They just are so fabulous , you cant help thinking 'WOW!

These people are FREE Orthy . They are not hung up and ashamed . They are happy adventurous individuals.