Disinformation: Who makes the list and why?

bobhardee wrote:What about Benjamin Fulford?  Come on folks, what do you think?  Agent or Disinformation agent?

bobhardee wrote:6/10/2016  
Good Friday morning everyone.  I have been a member of Mists number of years and have read and watched videos of some incredibly interesting material.  However, during that time, I have never seen where anyone posted who they think are purposeful disinformation agents.  So perhaps its time to start.  Let's recognize that there can be different categories that these people of false information can be placed so let me suggest the following list.

1.  Overall total BS disinformation agent: i.e. Alex Jones
2.  UFO disinformation agent: i.e. Richard Hoagland
3.  Monetary or economic disinformation agent(s): Some of the Russian sources
4.  War disinformation agent:
5.  Health disinformation agent:
6.  Religious disinformation agent:
7.  Other


Richard Hoagland: Why? A video I recently posted was an interview between Richard and Jim Mars. Even though it was only recently posted on YouTube, it was obviously several years old because they were discussing comet Eloine.  Hoagland who has been a long time advocate of the "secret space program" launches into why he believed the comet was artificially made and would reek havoc to planet earth when it returned in Oct.  It didn't.  Thus he became a disinformation agent.  I do not believe that there is any secret space program.  If so where is the proof?  There are others out there who push the idea of a secret space program and some of those seems to be reputable people.  However, until someone can post some solid evidence of the "secret space program" then I say BS.

Alex Jones: Why?  Don't even ask. He is not only a disinformation agent but a Fear agent who makes his living on disinformation.

That's my 2 cents and I welcome yours.
Bob H.......and may the force go with you.

bobhardee wrote:What about Benjamin Fulford?  Come on folks, what do you think?  Agent or Disinformation agent?

Ooohh, great topic, Bob!

I feel like a kid in a candy store...  I'll just tackle a few...


Alex Jones:  I don't ever bother to watch him.  Yes, he's a Fear Porn Pimp of the worst kind.

Richard Hoagland:  Pppfffthh.  Need I say more?

Corey Goode:  his 'insider' space program knowledge complete with big blue birds and spheres comes across as total

Benjamin Fulford: likes to spew mumbo-jumbo:  the 'new age' political wing to David Wilcock's 'new age' religious wing.  They work in tandem to provide two different 'flavours' for everyone so no one will be 'left out'.  

David Wilcock:  I think he's got the start of a religion with his Law of One and Ra.  Spiritually, he pushes his beliefs and seems to be leading people down a very dangerous path (eg. stands behind the work/conclusions of Michael Newton).  David likes to rub shoulders with Richard Hoagland, Corey Goode, and Benjamin Fulford:  all the 'heavy hitters'.

Neil Keenan:  originally rubbed shoulders with David Wilcock, but seems to have been abandoned by David after David's 'Financial Tyranny' article hit the fan.  I really liked that article and think David was doing good work there.  It was probably cutting too close to the bone so David backed off and fell back in line.  I wouldn't be surprised he was threatened.  Meantime, I don't know what to make of Neil.  I used to follow his updates with great interest but not so much now.  There never seems to be any tangible progress in what he's up to.  Oh, and Neil still likes Ben Fulford and David Wilcock if that tells you anything.

Art Bell:  got hooked on Coast to Coast because of him.

George Noorey:  took over Coast to Coast.  He was fine at first but then seemed to sell out and cross over to 'the dark side'.  His agenda is quite clear.  It's so awful, I don't listen to Coast to Coast anymore.

Health disinformation agent:  Dr. Mercola.  Mostly sounds 'good' on the surface and people buy it, then he slips in disinfo and outright and people buy that, too.  I think this guy would sell his own mother to make a buck.

mudra wrote:I would call " Disinformation agents " people who  lead you with great poise into an avenue and then you discover it's either a dead end or a merry go round. They are masters of delusion.

After a while one discovers they serve mainly as a borometer to test one's own gullability .

And then it's game over  your attention isn't drawn to them anymore.



Love from me
mudra

Well said, mudra!

bobhardee wrote:Come on folks, what do you think?

Hey, you encouraged us to talk!  Your fault!  Anyone else care to join in?

bobhardee wrote:What about Benjamin Fulford?  Come on folks, what do you think?  Agent or Disinformation agent?

Carol wrote:

bobhardee wrote:What about Benjamin Fulford?  Come on folks, what do you think?  Agent or Disinformation agent?

Hi Bob, I used to think Benjamin was full of it but I thought his last interview was quite good. That is bits of it. Some other bits I tend to walk away scratching my head asking does he really believe that? I was just going to re-listen to the last interview as I was falling asleep during the first run through. I generally stick with reading the transcripts and have not listened to any of his interviews in months as I don't like to waste the time.. however, in this interview he presented some interesting info that I was aware that most people know nothing of so it captured my attention.

• Jack Conway discovered the ancient lump while working on Emlagh bog
  
• Experts say the find might have been an offering to the gods or spirits 
  
• The product was found 12 feet underground and said to 'smell like cheese'
  

BUSTED: ORLANDO SHOOTERS EMPLOYER, G4S SECURITY DOES MERCENARY CONTRACTS
 
I came up with a major dig!
 

G4S security is featured in a MAJOR WAY on Mercenaryjobs.org! and that certainly does not look good. But wait, it gets better! SEE THIS: "a growing number are military specialists dispatched by the company into what are delicately known as "complex environments" to take on jobs that national armies lack the skill or the will to do" That certainly fits his ex-wife's description of him being evil and violent! yada bada bing! Hey, he worked for a Mercenaryjobs.org featured "security firm" but where did he actually do his security work? I'd bet NO WHERE, and that he did gigs, and was the fall guy for this particular gig.

 
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SCROLL DOWN PAST MY REPORT TO WHAT DAVID STEELE, FORMER CIA BLACK OP SUPERVISOR HAS TO SAY ABOUT ORLANDO
 It is a doozie! 

ITEM 7 BELOW: IT TOOK MORE THAN ONE PERSON TO COMMIT THE ORLANDO FALSE FLAG, JUST LIKE DAVID STEELE PREDICTED AND I REPORTED ALL ALONG.

 

ITEM 8: FINAL ANSWER: ONLY A PATSY WAS SHOT, AND THERE WERE MANY PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THIS FALSE FLAG.

 

I might as well put item 8 on top, because it confirms everything that follows that I reported earlier. The man who wrote this post obviously does not know about false flags, and that most likely ALL non patsy shooters returned to CIA/Mossad headquarters unhurt. He thinks they are not letting the public know about the other two shooters who "got away", when really, they "got away" because they were not the assigned patsy and are not part of the story line. This explains the high death toll, and other reports about it being more than a one man operation.
 

It was an obvious false flag and beyond that, who knows what the real truth is?

 People are pursuing the crisis actor/drill angle with this. I will say this: 
1. Is it not interesting that this happened right in the middle of the Bilderberg meetings?  
 
2: Hmm, remember one of the other shootings, where the shooter's dad was running for President in an arab state? Well, this also got reported in relation to this latest "shooting", that the shooter's dad was running for President in Afghanistan. That is too coincidental, I think the same idiotic psy op team or AI was in charge of this shooting as well. I don't believe this was anything but staged, real blood or not.
 
3: Wait a minute: Why were so many of the injured paraded down the exact same path in front of the cameras? Just like Nick Vogt, who went back and forth in front of the cameras FIVE TIMES with his legs blown off, rather than straight to an ambulance. Now it is looking fishy.

 4: Here is a big one: If you youtube "pulse nightclub orlando" you will see that people constantly make cell phone recordings in the crowd. Yet not one cell phone video of this shooting starting from the crowd in the night club has surfaced yet. AND THAT WOULD BE BECAUSE THEY CAPTURED MORE THAN ONE SHOOTER ON VIDEO, AND GET BLOWN OFF THE WEB THE SECOND THEY ARE POSTED.

 Shooting victims are being listed under fake names. WHY? See this: 

The picture is a link. The quote I captured is under the timeline of 6:10. and it is certainly odd!
 

 
6: Obama: "We" are to blame, not Islamic terrorism, for massacre" MY TRANSLATION: You have guns. You refuse a gun ban. It is your fault, and I will fix that!


7: At least a third person had to have been involved in the night club false flag, because a witness was on the air saying someone was outside holding the doors to the night club shut while the shooters did their work. His testimony ended when he was cut off abruptly by the censors. That would make 2 shooters (minimum) and one outdoor accomplice (minimum). That kills the official story dead, THIS CORROBORATES CODY AGNEW'S TESTIMONY ABOVE, A TOTAL BUST OF THIS FALSE FLAG: see this

Ok, so we have no pictures from inside the club. We have no video from inside the club. We have witnesses saying the "victims" cannot be located, because they are using fake names. We have the shooter's supposed dad already apologizing, and running for President of Afghanistan. We have a shooter who worked for the world's largest mercenary providing security firm. We have ridiculous camera placement catching footage of every victim going by. We have a witness saying there were two shooters. We have an entirely different witness saying someone was holding the doors shut. And it is all happening during the Bilderberg meeting. I am not going to state an opinion about this being yet another total false flag, but I will ask people to think! (ok, that position is becoming a joke I admit)


I made a few mistakes early on, but I can at least post the following portion of my original report (it survived my mistakes) while I sort things out, and I'd also like to say that if whoever staged this thought it would do any good, all it will really do is increase support for Trump.
 

 
One thing to consider about where they took the Orlando night club shooting:
 
Is it not interesting that it serves Obama's gay agenda and Obama's gun control agenda in one event? And in the new story the guy shows up with an ASSAULT RIFLE? Why are all these attacks gun attacks? When are we going to finally see a variation in the official story, such as "Man pumps up Weed-B-Gone sprayer full of gas and flame throws night club?" Come on now, the "assault rifle" meme is getting a little bit repetitive. Assault rifles are really not the norm among gun owners, why is it always THAT? And if anything did happen at that night club and it is not all a false flag, it was almost certainly an MK patsy. Time to comb craigslist for "gigs" and look for terror training drills in Orlando. Yep. That again.


 Ok, so we have a patsy and an escaped controller. The handler escaped, early reports said there were two people, and now they have dropped to one. That would be because the patsy was set up by the handler, people witnessed two people, (the handler got noticed) and now they have to drop the handler out of the news because he needs to get back to Israel. Just like I said in the first paragraph: SAME OLD SAME OLD, CREATIVITY IS A PERPETUAL FAIL NOW. Just always assault rifles and suicide vests. They can't have a pissed off homosexual in the mix if they want a war on Islam to proceed. 
I see this crap and say OH, not another one. Same story. Bat Man. Sandy Hook. San Bernardino. The "art festival". Orlando. Patsy dead.


 Oh, and their variance this time I guess was that instead if innocent children getting shot by an ASSAULT RIFLE, it was the poor little gays getting shot by an ASSAULT RIFLE. Yep, they are the victim now, No one can ridicule anymore because THEY ARE THE VICTIMS and gee, if you hate gays, you will go shoot up a night club the way ISIS(tm) did. Yep. Milk it 500 ways. You can bet they will use this to silence anyone who is against the gay agenda.


I'll believe it is real and not pre planned when someone takes out a synagogue over the high holidays. That is something they would NEVER set up.


 Oh, how cool! He was "ISIS" and he attacked the GAYS with a SUICIDE VEST and ASSAULT RIFLE. So if you are anti-gay, you are just like ISIS and you are a potential terrorist. That is how they play this crap. . . . .wait for it. 


What they will try to get from this: 1. Hate crimes legislation. 2. Increased surveillance. 3. A gun ban. 4. An increased hatred for Muslims, thus justifying more wars, all the while the other head of the hydra talks "tolerance" to bury the fact that the hydra hatched it out of thin air.
 
Here is another great take on this:
 
Former CIA false flag director David Steele comments on Orlando shooting

 
This is a doozie!
"The entire world just spent the past week celebrating the life of Muhammad Ali - and Ali's religion, Islam. It was the best PR week Islam ever had.

What's more, we didn't spend the past week celebrating "house Muslim" Uncle Tom style Islam. We just spent an amazing week cheering for Muhammad Ali, a Muslim fighter, a truth jihadi, a man willing to sacrifice everything for truth and justice...a man who famously cheered on armed Palestinian resistance with the immortal words:

"In my name and the name of all Muslims in America, I declare support for the Palestinian struggle to liberate their homeland and oust the Zionist invaders."

For the people behind the Islamophobia-based "clash of civilizations" - and the long list of false flags that created it - the past week of Muhammad Ali adulation was the ultimate PR nightmare. Meanwhile, during the exact same week, the Zionists have been panicking, fearing that Obama is going to take his revenge on Netanyahu by helping the Security Council pass a resolution essentially recognizing and officially establishing the State of Palestine within its pre-1967 borders.

The usual suspects may have responded with a massive publicity stunt in Orlando designed to make us forget Muhammad Ali ... and make it much harder, if not impossible, for Obama to force the Israelis to withdraw from the territory they stole in 1967. In other words, this keeps the Clash of Civilizations going, and Israel expanding.

And who benefits from that? No Muslims that I can see.

Will the alleged perpetrator be interrogated to find out what he did or did not do, what his motives may have been, and who his associates were? Apparently not. Once again, we see the "perp shot dead, will never be interrogated or tried" syndrome. If international terrorism sponsored by groups like ISIS were really what it is made out to be, obviously live captures of all suspected terrorists would be the top priority, so interrogations could take place and terror networks taken down.

Another major indicator of "false flag" is the scale of the carnage. More than 50 dead? Only one shooter? And the guy was not even a special forces professional, but a flaky security guard?! (Who just happened to be on all the National Security radar screens, like so many others now-proven patsies.) Sorry, MSM, that doesn't pass the smell test.

It's funny how almost all "Muslim terrorists" are either ridiculously ultra-competent supermen able to take down skyscrapers and blow up the Pentagon using a couple of package-openers as their only weapons; kill ludicrously large numbers of people in mass shootings without any military training; or otherwise perform amazing feats of mass carnage ... or else they are the world's LEAST competent destruction-wreakers, dufuses who can't get a match lit to try to blow up their own shoe, or who pack their underwear with sterno camping fuel and no detonator and somehow expect their crotch to explode.
 Aside from the handful of supermen, practically every wannabe Muslim terrorist in the USA since 9/11 has been a total dufus. As Trevor Aaronson writes in The Terror Factory, almost all of the "Islamic terror plots" in the US since 9/11 have actually been FBI terror plots sold to some hapless patsy - a homeless street person, a retarded teenager - by a professional con artist.

Real terrorism usually falls in the middle of the bell curve: A handful of people (if any) get killed, and/or something of fairly modest size gets blown up. This is the pattern with the 94% of terrorist attacks that, according to the FBI, are not committed by Muslims, but rather by radical Jews, hispanics, leftists, animal rights activists, and so on.

But Muslims...whoah! They're either supermen, defying the laws of physics to make skyscrapers disappear at free-fall acceleration through the path of most resistance or shooting huge crowds of people with a single Glock pistol...or they're retarded kids, homeless people, schlemiels who couldn't succeed in stepping on an ant if the FBI bought them size 20 shoes and released an ant colony next to their feet.

Statistically, the odds that Muslims would almost always either be way-too-lethal or else way-too-incompetent, while all other categories of terrorists would fall in the middle of the bell curve, must be about 20 trillion to one. Go ahead, pull up the statistics and do the math. The inescapable conclusion is that most plots and attacks attributed to Muslims are PR stunts concocted by the FBI and the Deep State, respectively.

We were told, almost immediately after the Orlando shooting, that "the shooter had pledged allegiance to ISIS." Robert David Steele remarks: "The tape pledging allegiance to ISIS is patsy perfect." And since ISIS is a Western public relations operation, a 4th generation warfare psy-op, the ISIS pledge in itself pretty much proves that the shooting was an inside job. (For details, see the section "Who is ISIS" in Another French False Flag.)

Mateen's parents were born in Afghanistan, and he was 'on the radar' of U.S. officials for some time, but was not the target of a specific investigation, law enforcement officials told ABC News.
If the deep state had been running him, setting him up for an event like Orlando, he would indeed have been "on the radar" - but his handlers would have made sure he wasn't targeted by any specific investigation. This is what happened prior to 9/11 when Lt. Col. Anthony Schaeffer of Able Danger was ordered by his superiors to put yellow sticky pads over the faces of Mohammed Atta and other future "9/11 hijackers" and forget he had ever heard of them.

So if the carnage in Orlando is real (and I haven't yet seen any indications that it isn't) how might it have been produced?

The two obvious possibilities include:

(1) Professional killers i.e. multiple shooters may have done the damage and/or assisted the patsy, as appears to have been the case in many other false flags including the Fort Hood shooting, the Batman theater shooting, the Sikh Temple shooting, and the more recent Paris and San Bernardino shootings. Robert David Steele remarks: "Multiple shooters are detected by proper forensics on all bullet paths and all spent rounds. I doubt responsible forensics will be done (if 50 real bodies) am pretty sure that if it were, it would identify multiple weapons not found on the scene from the spent round signatures. This is all way too pat."

(2) The patsy may have been given the equivalent of special forces training, perhaps with the aid of MK-Ultra style hypnotherapy, obviating the need for professional assistance.

Of course, it's always possible that yet another Muslim-named super-terrorist just appeared out of nowhere and decided, for unfathomable reasons, to stage a murderous PR stunt that would erase "Muhammad Ali Week" from the public mind and help Netanyahu resist the international push to force Israel to withdraw from the Occupied Territories. 

But though it's still to early to know for sure, the above-cited circumstantial evidence suggests that we should place the Orlando nightclub shooting in the "strongly suspected false flag" category.
 
Courtesy of Robert David Steele