United States AI Solar System (2)

magamud wrote:

Aquaries1111 wrote:

Thank-you A1. I'll have a look at the '144' tomorrow. Check out 'Legal Epistemology'. http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1183363 Just a note about my occasional use of words such as 'damn' or 'hell' -- these are biblical words -- and convey deep theological meaning. I have been modeling a particular personality which requires these words as 'stage props'. I don't talk like this in public -- and very rarely in private. On a lighter note:

On a heavier note -- the SDA Church took the money and ran -- regarding the Health-Care Business -- instead of following the high road of Prevention and Natural Treatment -- envisioned by the founders of the SDA Church. Follow the Money. 'Health-Care As Usual' is More Corrupt Than Hell Itself. I would've loved to have been part of the Christian Bioethics Center at the Loma Linda University Medical Center http://www.llu.edu/central/bioethics/index.page -- although I continue to be an Ellen White Leaning Preventive Medicine Proponent (EWLPMP) -- which would've probably gotten me fired!! You MUST read 'John Harvey Kellogg, MD' by Richard Schwarz!! http://www.amazon.com/John-Harvey-Kellogg-Richard-Schwarz/dp/0828019398/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1347394547&sr=1-3&keywords=john+harvey+kellogg I'd still like to know the whole story regarding the Proton Accelerator at LLUMC!! What Would James Slater Say?? Think about the 'Healing Centers' in 'V'!! Other Religious Medical Institutions are No Better -- but the SDA Church Knew Better -- Big Time. Shame On Them. I'm VERY sad about life, the universe, and everything -- as I stumble off into the night -- sobbing "It Might've Been!!! The Creator is the Destroyer -- and the Wheels of Justice Grind Exceedingly Fine!!! Many Are Called -- and Few Are Chosen!!! Crime Does Not Pay On Judgment Day!!! The Hour of His Judgment Has Come!!! End of Line!!!"

Aquaries1111 wrote:Oxy,

Listen to this:

UNIVERSITY OF UCADIA-WEDNESDAYS 9PM EST
EPISODE62 - UNIVERSITY OF UCADIA-WEDNESDAYS 9PM ES..

http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=90342&pageNumber=2&pageSize=15

Thank-you A1. I've been rather lax regarding studying UCADIA. I'm frankly a bit worried and creeped-out by the following section:

Article 48 - Treaty of Angels, Saints and Demons
http://one-heaven.org/covenant/article/48.html

48.3

Treaty of the Demons

By the Treaty of the Divine Masculine, the Treaty of the Divine Feminine, the Treaty of the Divine Apostles, it shall be tasked upon the greatest of spirits, these great heroes, who return to the Father, the Mother, the Light, the One, to find and bring all to the One. That their names shall be spoken in reverence, not curses. And so, by the word of the Absolute, the All, the Unique Collective Awareness, their names are listed - the heroes of the new Heaven - the One Heaven, the prodigal sons and daughters that are welcomed. By these words, it is commanded by the word of the Absolute. By these words, We call them by their known names (which includes Moloch) --

We call Abaddon to come home, We call Abalam to come home, We call Adramelech to come home, We call Agaliarept to come home, We call Agares to come home, We call Ahriman to come home, We call Aim to come home, We call Akvan to come home, We call Alal to come home, We call Alloces to come home, We call Allu to come home, We call Amaymon to come home, We call Amdusias to come home, We call Ammit to come home, We call Anzu to come home, We call Amon to come home, We call Amy to come home, We call Andhaka to come home, We call Andras to come home, We call Andrealphus to come home, We call Andromalius to come home, We call Apep (Apophis) to come home, We call Apollyon to come home, We call Armaros to come home, We call Asag to come home, We call Asakku to come home, We call Asb'el to come home, We call Asmodeus to come home, We call Astaroth to come home, We call Astarte to come home, We call Asura to come home, We call Azazel to come home, We call Azi to come home, We call Balam to come home, We call Bagat to come home, We call Baphomet to come home, We call Barbas to come home, We call Barbatos to come home, We call Bathin to come home, We call Behemoth to come home, We call Belial to come home, We call Beleth to come home, We call Bull man to come home, We call Bune to come home, We call Belphegor to come home, We call Berith to come home, We call Bianakith to come home, We call Bifrons to come home, We call Botis to come home, We call Buer to come home, We call Bali Raj to come home, We call Biule to come home, We call Caacrinolaas to come home, We call Caim to come home, We call Cerberus to come home, We call Charun to come home, We call Cheitan to come home, We call Cimejes to come home, We call Corson to come home, We call Crocell to come home, We call Culsu to come home, We call Dantalion to come home, We call Danjal to come home, We call Dasa to come home, We call Decarabia to come home, We call Demogorgon to come home, We call Duma to come home, We call Dajjal to come home, We call Elathan to come home, We call Eligos to come home, We call Ethniu to come home, We call Euryale to come home, We call Exdemoneus to come home, We call Familiars to come home, We call Fleuretty to come home, We call Fobos to come home, We call Focalor to come home, We call Foras to come home, We call Forneus to come home, We call Furcas to come home, We call Furfur to come home, We call Gaap to come home, We call Gader'el to come home, We call Gaki to come home, We call Glasya-Labolas to come home, We call Göap to come home, We call Gorgon to come home, We call Gremory to come home, We call Grigori to come home, We call Gusion to come home, We call Guzalu to come home, We call Haagenti to come home, We call Haborim to come home, We call Halphas to come home, We call Hanan'el to come home, We call Hantu to come home, We call Haures to come home, We call Humbaba to come home, We call Incubus to come home, We call Ipos to come home, We call Iblis to come home, We call Jikininki to come home, We call Judas to come home, We call Kabhanda to come home, We call Kasdaye to come home, We call Kirara to come home, We call Kitsune to come home, We call Kobal to come home, We call Kokb'ael to come home, We call Krampus to come home, We call Labal to come home, We call Labasu to come home, We call Lamia to come home, We call Legion to come home, We call Lechies to come home, We call Lempo to come home, We call Leonard to come home, We call Leraje to come home, We call Leviathan to come home, We call Lilim to come home, We call Lilith to come home, We call Lillu to come home, We call Liothe to come home, We call Lix Tetrax to come home, We call Lucifuge Rofocale to come home, We call Malphas to come home, We call Mammon to come home, We call Maricha to come home, We call Marax to come home, We call Marbas to come home, We call Marchosias to come home, We call Mastema to come home, We call Mathim to come home, We call Medusa to come home, We call Melchiresa / Melki-resha to come home, We call Mephistopheles to come home, We call Merihem to come home, We call Meshinka Destrega Sham to come home, We call Mictlantecuhtli to come home, We call Moloch to come home, We call Murmur to come home, We call Mutis to come home, We call Naberius to come home, We call Naberus to come home, We call Naphula to come home, We call Neqa'el to come home, We call Ninurta to come home, We call Nix to come home, We call Onoskelis to come home, We call Oray to come home, We call Orcus to come home, We call Oriax to come home, We call Ornias to come home, We call Orobas to come home, We call Ose to come home, We call Paimon to come home, We call Pazuzu to come home, We call Penemue to come home, We call Phenex to come home, We call Pithius to come home, We call Procell to come home, We call Pruflas to come home, We call Purson to come home, We call Quina to come home, We call Rahab to come home, We call Rahovart to come home, We call Raiju to come home, We call Rakshasa to come home, We call Rangda to come home, We call Raum to come home, We call Razakel to come home, We call Rûberzahl to come home, We call Ronove to come home, We call Rumjal to come home, We call Rusalka to come home, We call Sabnock to come home, We call Saleos to come home, We call Samael to come home, We call Satanachia to come home, We call Scox to come home, We call Seere to come home, We call Semyazza to come home, We call Shaitan to come home, We call Shax to come home, We call Shedim to come home, We call Sidragasum to come home, We call Sitri to come home, We call Sthenno to come home, We call Stolas to come home, We call Succubus to come home, We call Surgat to come home, We call Tannin to come home, We call Teeraal to come home, We call Thammuz to come home, We call Tzitzimime to come home, We call Uvall to come home, We call Valefor to come home, We call Vapula to come home, We call Vassago to come home, We call Vepar to come home, We call Vine to come home, We call Volac to come home, We call Xaphan to come home, We call Xezbeth to come home, We call Yeqon to come home, We call Yeter'el to come home, We call Zagan to come home, We call Zepar to come home, We call Ziminar to come home.

Consider all of the above in light of 'Dante's Inferno' and the 'Book of Enoch'. The 'Ancient Egyptian Deity' told me that there is a lot of truth in these two sources -- but I took everything they said with a Sea of Salt. 'Paradise Lost' might be worth rereading at this point.

Frank O'Collins (who I enjoy listening to) is somewhat critical of the Human Race, the Catholic Church, the Powers That Be, etc and et al -- yet this 'Treaty of the Demons' speaks of reverencing demons -- who are to be viewed as being heroes -- to be welcomed as prodigal sons and daughters -- into the One Heaven. I have attempted to be open-minded and polite -- but this seems to be insanity. What the hell is going on here??!! Is this a 'Deal with the Devil'?? Jesus Christ is listed as being some sort of a Divine Apostle -- with no mention of any sort of 'reverence' (not that Jesus expects reverence, worship, and praise). I will study the UCADIA material carefully -- but something seems to be VERY wrong here.

I'm expecting nothing but sinister-bullshit, false-flags, economic-disasters, earth-changes, unnecessary-wars, alien-deceptions, supernatural-events, fast-talkers, etc, etc, etc -- in the coming years. I will positively-reinforce the territory I've already covered -- but I am NOT optimistic about the future. Not at all. Once again -- my Grand Strategy is to mostly be a Do-Nothing Researcher and Writer. It's a nasty task -- but someone has to do it -- and it might as well be me. I think I might've been too understanding and accomodating regarding the dark-side. I wish to give everyone a fair-shake -- but I do NOT wish to be taken advantage of. I think I've mostly been attempting to determine who my True Friends and Enemies are -- terrestrially and extraterrestrially.

I think I'm going to spend a lot of time with the 1928 'Book of Common Prayer', the 'Federalist Papers', the 'Gods of Eden', and the 'Desire of Ages' -- while listening to Sacred Classical Music -- including Gregorian Chant and Organ Improvisation. I'm not suggesting that everyone do this. It just seems to be something I need to do at this point in my life -- as a mental and spiritual exercise -- on an ongoing basis -- as a point of reference and stabilizing influence. I am very interested in 'church' -- but I don't see myself attending church anytime soon. I think I might need to 'beat upon the rocks of who knows what' just a bit longer. We all have our crosses to bear.

BTW -- that 'Ritus Verum 144 Truths' video was chilling. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYHcGpR7wd8&feature=player_embedded I frankly listen more closely to Frank's description of the problems than I do to his proposed solutions. It's pretty much the same way I view the work of Sherry Shriner. http://www.blogtalkradio.com/sherrytalkradio/2012/09/25/monday-night-with-sherry-shriner Do Frank and Sherry spend a lot of time discussing the Teachings Attributed to Jesus?? What do they say about the Teachings Attributed to Jesus?? Both of them are extremely intelligent -- but I continue to wonder what they are really all about? Often, things are not what they seem to be.

I will continue to consider the madness from the general context of the Roman Empire and Church. I'm really NOT hostile toward the Roman Catholic Church -- but I think I've angered a lot of people. I can sense it. I'm simply imagining what a Roman Empire and Church should and could be -- so in a sense, I'm really a friend -- in a strange sort of way. You must understand that I sometimes read literature which claims that Jesuit Priests are demon-possessed -- and that Roman Catholics are mostly lost-souls. I'm rather mild -- because I believe that the church literally has to deal with Lucifer, Satan, Demons, Aliens, and Hell -- and that this has a lot to do with what I object to in the Roman Catholic Church -- historically and presently. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nY-l7MhfcPw My meddling is NOT personal regarding various church leaders -- including the Pope and the Black-Pope. I simply think that we would be shocked by what they have to deal with on a daily basis. I'm really rather idealistic regarding the church. I might be guilty of 'crazy-talk' -- but please don't call it 'hate-speech'.

I still think they should install that 1875 Cavaille-Coll Designed Pipe-Organ in St. Peter's -- and create the strongest sacred music program in the solar system -- but it would need to be 'their' idea. A Fisk would be cool -- but there are probably a dozen great organ builders who could approximate the Cavaille-Coll concept in modernity. Organists and Choirmasters should probably be Ministers of Music -- with both Music and Theology Degrees -- and they should be well-paid (with benefits). Most every church-member should probably have some sort of musical training -- even if they are tone-deaf. Once again, I am leaning toward Liturgical Discipline and Orthodoxy -- rather than Doctrinal Discipline and Orthodoxy. I guess I am somewhat Liturgically Conservative and Doctrinally Liberal -- but the Clergy and Theologians should be Biblical Scholars of the First Order -- and they should make their case with eloquence, dignity, and respect. What do you think about John Shelby Spong?? Did he go about things the right way -- or did he make serious mistakes and blunders??? I continue to lean toward Thoughtful Positive-Reinforcement -- rather than Pompous and Supercilious Positive-Thinking and Self-Esteem. You know what I'm talking about.

Once again, I do NOT have access to insiders and inside-information. I am passively modeling several political and theological possibilities. I am NOT surrounded by Experts, Libraries, Archives, Museums, Greys, and Crays. I have a $300 Laptop, a dog named Jake Sully, and a Messy House -- with NO prospects. I guess I have a little bit of the 'little-guy' thing going on -- with a HUGE inferiority-complex. One more thing. I still don't know what we're really dealing with. I feel useless, helpless, and mostly hopeless. I am VERY worried about Syria, Disclosure, and Resets. Bad-Things and Good-Things can BOTH be used for Evil and Nefarious Purposes and Ends. Even the Very Best People, Beings, and Systems can be infiltrated and subverted. Some things never change.

Should the border of the United States of the Solar System be where the Heliosheath meets the Termination Shock (or at least the current distance between the Sun and Heliosheath)?? I tend to think so -- but I am open to other possibilities.

1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaUV-atOfOY
2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vCD4MMz-Qc&feature=related
3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ-pZp1FQPE&feature=related
4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bogr_tZ1JRU&feature=fvwrel
5. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18etkOILqjI&feature=related















Consider taking a closer look at the following -- as a group:

1. Frank O'Collins.
2. Jordan Maxwell.
3. Santos Bonacci.
4. Bill Cooper.
5. Alex Collier.
6. Sherri Shriner.
7. Leo Zagami.
8. Malachi Martin.
9. Ralph Ellis.
10. Orthodoxymoron. (I couldn't resist!!)
11. Genesis.
12. Exodus.
13. Deuteronomy.
14. Psalms.
15. Proverbs.
16. Matthew.
17. Mark.
18. Luke.
19. John.
20. Acts.
21. Hebrews.
22. Revelation.

I have no idea how accurate these sources are (including me). I have no idea what the agendas are (including my own). Take everything with a Sea of Salt. Focus upon:

1. Responsibility.
2. Freedom.
3. Constitution.
4. Law.
5. God.
6. Government.
7. Character of God.
8. Law of God.
9. Kingdom of God.
10. Heaven.
11. Hell.
12. Purgatory.
13. Love.
14. Money.
15. Sirius.
16. Babylon.
17. Egypt.
18. Greece.
19. Rome.
20. Persia.
21. England.
22. America.
23. Germany.
24. Israel.
25. Archangels.
26. Angels.
27. Demons.
28. Aliens.
29. Osiris.
30. Isis.
31. Ra.
32. Horus.
33. Jesus.

This list could really be endless -- but this should keep some of you busy for a while!! Actually, if you're not one of the lucky ones who gets paid to read my tripe -- I tend to doubt that you will spend much time on this. This isn't fun stuff. Not at all. This is SO much bigger than I can possibly comprehend -- and I am VERY afraid of what we're facing. Things could be so many ways -- and go in so many directions. How to disappear in America? Work hard to get to the top of the Red-List. Just kidding -- or am I? Seriously, I'm sensing that no one is safe -- and that there is no place to hide. Both the Rulers and the Ruled seem to be in deep trouble -- but what do I know?? Too much -- and too little -- simultaneously. 'They' probably don't know what to do with me -- and I frankly don't know what to do with myself. Thinking we know -- and knowing -- are two VERY different things. I KNOW that I don't know. I'm going to need the WHOLE TRUTH before I agree to anything or sign anything. I like the general principles and concepts of the United States of the Solar System -- and I have tried to model a USSS within this thread -- but I would need to know a helluva lot more regarding the true state of affairs in this world, solar system, galaxy, and universe -- before I sign-off on anything -- including a United States of the Solar System. My 'demand' in the old Project Avalon -- was a demand for an end to the evil and corruption in this solar system -- along with the conviction that a United States of the Solar System MIGHT be a remedy -- or a partial remedy -- to the nasty predicament in which we find ourselves. Perhaps I was too definite and direct in that particular post -- but how should one attempt to change things for the better in this neck of the woods?? I am VERY worried that I have Really screwed-up this incarnation (in general) and this thread (in particular). BOTH Divinity and Humanity need to speak with me -- and be honest with me -- regarding this matter. Don't play games with me. I'm already quite angry and upset. I feel as if I am being laughed-at and taken-advantage-of. Your silence has NOT pacified me. You probably hoped that I would go away -- or go crazy.

A BIG Thank-You to those who conversed with me -- but I craved a particular type of detailed, technical, and rational conversation -- which never materialized. I have had to manufacture this conversation within the relative privacy of my mind -- and to some, that makes me crazy. Crazy world we live in. People who think deeply about saving the world are deemed crazy -- and a threat to National Security (whatever the hell that means). Once again, it seems as if the New World Order (or equivalent), a One World Government, and a One Solar-System Government have been in full force for thousands of years -- but no one bothered to tell us in a direct and honest manner. It seems as if we've been waiting for the NWO and the AntiChrist -- when they were (and are) already here. The problems didn't start with Greada or Vatican II. They go way, way, way back into antiquity. I'm really tired of sticking my neck out -- and now it might be time to just watch -- while preparing for just about anything. I like the idea of a generalized disaster-preparedness on an ongoing basis -- rather than engaging in fearmongering and making horrific predictions. I have no doubt that we are heading toward some sort of a bumpy ride -- but I certainly don't know the particulars. The eschatological factional-fighting should be interesting. What really happened recently on the backside of the sun?? Is there a star war occurring within this solar system -- and possibly beyond?? I am terrified by powerful forces in conflict with each other. Thinking about this makes me wish to live underground in complete silence. This quest has become way too frightening for me -- and I am VERY sorry if I have caused anyone to experience unnecessary emotional and spiritual distress. I was merely trying to help -- by preemptively dealing with various upsetting possibilities. I continue to advocate subsurface living and working for a significant portion of the population -- throughout the solar system -- for ecological and survival purposes -- but this will obviously take decades to implement.

I continue to seek a royal-model middle-way for Christians. What would various Christian churches have to say about the 1928 Book of Common Prayer -- complete with the liturgy in use between 1928 and 1979?? Is it Catholic enough for Roman Catholics? What would Novus Ordo Catholics say?? What would the Sedevacantists and Latin Mass Catholics say?? What would Orthodox Christians say?? What would Lutherans say?? What would Anglicans say?? What would Liberal Episcopalians say?? What would the Queen say?? What would the Pope say?? What would the Archbishop of Canterbury say?? What would MegaChurch Christians say?? What would Evangelicals say?? Consider reading 'Evangelicals on the Canterbury Trail' -- and note particularly the chapter by David and LaVonne Neff. I'm not an expert in this area -- but I keep asking questions -- which never seem to get answered. I hope some of my wanderings will benefit someone at some point. What do you think about this series of videos?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYapd_KST7E&list=UUXkl-vz7DAVCzd7hpMMhSHg&feature=plpp_play_all Here's an article some of you might find interesting: 'What's wrong with the 1928 Book of Common Prayer?' by Robin G. Jordan http://anglicansablaze.blogspot.com/2009/09/whats-wrong-with-1928-book-of-common.html This article was originally published on The Heritage Anglican Network blog on December 18, 2008.

In this article I seek to answer from a Reformed perspective the question, "What's wrong with the 1928 Book of Common Prayer?". Classical Anglican Evangelicalism had disappeared from the Protestant Episcopal Church by 1900. The 1928 Prayer Book was adopted at the time the Anglo-Catholic and Broad Church movements were the dominant schools of thought in the Protestant Episcopal Church and the book reflects their doctrinal emphases. At the 1925 General Convention Anglo-Catholics and Broad Churchmen united to remove the Thirty-Nine Articles from the American Prayer Book. They adopted a resolution dropping the Articles from the Prayer Book. However, they were thwarted by the denomination’s Constitution that required an amendment of the Constitution to abolish the Articles. The resolution, which required the ratification of a successive General Convention, was quietly dropped at the 1928 General Convention.

The 1928 Book of Common Prayer was the first major revision of the American Prayer Book. It goes far toward undoing the work that was accomplished for the Anglican Church at the Reformation. Many things rejected by the sixteenth century Reformers because of their inconsistency with biblical and Reformation doctrine, are introduced into the American Prayer Book.

The 1928 Book of Common Prayer dilutes the American Prayer Book’s doctrine of sin. The ten penitential sentences that had survived the 1892 revision of the American Prayer Book are reduced to three each in Morning and Evening Prayer and placed under the season of Lent. This eliminates an important evangelistic element from Morning and Evening Prayer. Samuel Luenberger draws to our attention:

“The text of our sentences are so compiled that they let one discern for himself the way to overcome sin through repentance. The following texts from the twelve quotations occupy a particularly important position: Ezekiel 18:27; Psalm 51:3.9, and 17; Joe; 2:13, etc.

“The very first quotation from Ezekiel 18 shows the way to prevail over sin:

“When the wicked man turneth away from his wickedness that he hath committed, and doeth that which is lawful and right, he shall save his soul alive.” [1]

In its use of Sentences for the Seasons the 1928 Book of Common Prayer imitates the 1928 English Revised Book of Common Prayer and the 1929 Scottish Book of Common Prayer, both which are much more Catholic in tone than 1662 Book of Common Prayer.

The Evangelicals in the Church of England and the British Parliament rejected the 1928 English Revised Prayer Book because it modified the doctrine of the Church of England, and replaced the biblical-Reformation theology of the 1662 Book of Common Prayer with unreformed Catholic doctrine. The upper house of Convocation would defy Parliament and authorized its use in Dioceses where the Ordinary consented to its use. The Scottish Episcopal Church has historically been more High Church and Catholic than the Church of England, preserving such customs as the wearing of eucharistic vestments during the Communion Service and the elevation of the consecrated host during the Prayer of Consecration. The 1929 Scottish Prayer of Consecration included an Epiclesis invoking the Holy Spirit upon the bread and the wine so that the eucharistic elements should “become” the Body and Blood of Christ. Like the 1928 Prayer of Consecration, the 1929 Scottish Prayer of Consecration is derived from the 1764 Scottish Non-Juror Prayer of Consecration.

The 1928 Prayer Book permits the substitution of a short Invitation for the Exhortation in Morning and Evening Prayer with its view of man “in a strictly evangelical-Reformation way as one who wishes to disguise his sinfulness and lives with a propensity for avoiding God.” [2]

A short Absolution taken from the medieval Sarum breviary may be used in lieu of Cranmer’s fuller Absolution. This short Absolution, as well as a simplified Confession, is offered as an alternative at both Morning and Evening Prayer in the 1928 English Revised Prayer Book and the 1929 Scottish Prayer Book. As we shall see, the short Absolution is one of number of features that the 1928 Prayer Book shares with these books.

The 1928 Prayer Book permits the omission of the first Lord’s Prayer or the second Lord’s Prayer at Morning Prayer. In the 1552 Prayer Book the first Lord’s Prayer forms a part of a sequence that begins with the penitential sentences. Cranmer’s Absolution does not make sense if the first Lord’s Prayer is omitted. The 1928 Prayer Book permits the omission of the Exhortation, the Confession, the Absolution, and the first Lord’s Prayer at Evening Prayer. This represents a significant departure from the Reformed form of Evening Prayer of the 1552 Prayer Book and a return to the unreformed Catholic form of the medieval Sarum breviary and the 1549 Prayer Book.

Invitatories for optional use in the form of medieval Antiphons are prefixed to the Venite. Cranmer had omitted Invitatories from the 1552 Book of Common Prayer because they were interpolated between the successive verses of the Venite and other passages of Scripture and broke the continual course of the reading of the Scripture. (See The Preface in the 1552 Prayer Book). With the Sentences for the Seasons that replace the penitential sentences, they give further emphasis to the Seasons. In the 1928 Prayer Book observance of the Church Year overshadows repentance at Morning and Evening Prayer. This is just one of a number of ways that the 1928 Prayer Book minimizes the gravity of sin.

The revised Order for the Holy Communion includes elements that quite definitely bring it into line with the medieval Roman Mass. Among the changes that 1928 Prayer Book introduced are the following:

1. The opening rubrics of the 1928 Order for Holy Communion direct the priest to stand before the Holy Table, his back turned to the congregation. This is how the priest stood at the medieval Roman Mass. This position, commonly referred to as the “eastward position,” is associated with the unreformed Catholic and Roman doctrinal views that presbyters are a sacrificing priesthood and the Mass is a sacrifice.

2. The rubrics direct the priest to offer the bread and wine and then place them upon the Holy Table at the Offertory. An offering of the bread and wine during the Prayer of Consecration had already been incorporated into the American Prayer Book with the adoption of the Scottish Non-Juror Prayer of Consecration in 1789. The two offerings of the bread and wine, one at the Offertory and the other during the Canon or Prayer of Consecration are taken from the medieval Roman Mass and are associated with the doctrines of the Sacrifice of the Mass and Transubstantiation.

3. The Prayer for the State of Christ’s Church contains a petition for the departed. This is also a feature of the 1928 English Revised Prayer Book and the 1929 Scottish Prayer Book.

4. After the Sursum Corda the rubrics direct the priest to “turn to the Holy Table” with his back turned to the congregation—the eastward position associated with the doctrine of the Sacrifice of the Mass.

5. The 1928 Prayer of Consecration closely follows the pattern of the medieval Roman Canon, except the latter has no Epiclesis.

6. The theology of the 1928 Prayer of Consecration represents a modification of the theology of the 1764 Scottish Non-Juror Prayer of Consecration. 1764 Scottish Non-Juror Communion Office was the work of two elderly Scottish Non-Juror bishops. They were the last of the surviving Usagers, a Scottish Non-Juror church party that taught that the Eucharist is a sacrifice. They believed that Christ had not offered himself as an atoning sacrifice for our redemption on the cross but at the Last Supper. He had only been slain on the cross.

“The Eucharist is both a Sacrament and a Sacrifice. Our Lord instituted the Sacrifice of the Eucharist when He began to offer Himself for the sins of all men, i.e. immediately after eating His Last Passover. He did not offer the Sacrifice upon the Cross; it was slain there but was offered at the Institution of the Eucharist.” [3]

Bishop Thomas Deacon in his Comprehensive View describes a proper celebration of the Eucharist from this standpoint. The priest, he writes

“does as Christ did...he next repeats our Saviour’s powerful words “This is my Body,” “This is my Blood” over the Bread and Cup. The effect of the words is that the Bread and Cup are made authoritative Representations or symbols of Christ’s crucified Body and of His Blood shed; and in consequence they are in a capacity of being offered to God as the great Christian Sacrifice....God accepts the Sacrifice and returns it to us again to feast upon, in order that we may be thereby partakers of all the benefits of our Saviour’s Death and Passion. The Bread and Cup become capable of conferring these benefits on the priest praying to God the Father to send the Holy’ Spirit upon them. The Bread and Cup are thereby made the Spiritual, Life-giving Body and Blood of Christ, in Power and Virtue.” [4]

The theology of the 1928 Prayer of Consecration is far removed from the Reformed theology of the 1552 and 1662 Prayers of Consecration or even the theology of the 1549 Canon. In the latter prayer the Epiclesis precedes the Words of Institution and there is no Oblation, or offering of the bread and wine.

6. The 1928 Prayer of Consecration contains an invocation of the Holy Spirit upon the bread and wine that, as both Martin Bucer and Stephen Gardiner drew to Cranmer’s attention, suggest that the bread and wine undergo some kind of change other than a change in use. For this reason and the following reason the invocation of the Holy Spirit was dropped by Cranmer from the 1552 Book of Common Prayer. An invocation of the Holy Spirit upon the bread and wine is a feature of the 1928 English Revised Prayer Book and the 1929 Scottish Prayer Book.

7. Bucer also objected to the invocation of the Holy Spirit upon inanimate objects. There was no warrant for the practice in the Bible. It also represented a departure from Biblical practice. In the Bible the Holy Spirit is invoked only upon people. The Holy Spirit also descends only upon people. Now where do we find in Scripture the invocation of the Holy Spirit upon inanimate objects.

The blessing of Matthew 26:26-29, Mark 14:22-25, and 1 Corinthians 10:16 refers to the Jewish practice of blessing God over a cup of wine as a form of thanksgiving and not to the blessing of the wine itself. This is clear from Luke 22:17-20:

“And he received a cup, and when he had given thanks, he said, Take this, and divide it among yourselves: for I say unto you, I shall not drink from henceforth of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come. And he took bread, and when he had given thanks, he brake it, and gave to them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me. And the cup in like manner after supper, saying, This cup is the new covenant in my blood, even that which is poured out for you.”

And 1 Corinthians 11:23-26:

“For I received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, that the Lord Jesus in the night in which he was betrayed took bread; and when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, This is my body, which is for you: this do in remembrance of me. In like manner also the cup, after supper, saying, This cup is the new covenant in my blood: this do, as often as ye drink it, in remembrance of me. For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink the cup, ye proclaim the Lord's death till he come.”

It is not an example of Jesus pronouncing God’s blessing upon an inanimate object—a cup of wine.

In the 1552 Communion Service in the prayer, “Almighty God oure heavenly father, whiche of thy tender mecye…,” the priest humbly asks God that those receiving the bread and wine may be partakers of Christ’s Body and Blood. In the 1552 Baptismal Office in the prayer, “Almightie euerliving God, whose most dearely beloued sonne Jesus Christ…,” the priest humbly asks God that all his servants who are to be baptized in the water, may receive the fullness of his grace and ever remain in the number of his faithful and elect children. There is no invocation of the Holy Spirit or God’s blessing upon the bread and wine or the water in the font.

8. Nowhere in Scripture do we read that Jesus commanded the disciples to celebrate and make a memorial before God with the bread and wine or to offer them to God. Jesus instructed the disciples to eat the bread and drink the cup in remembrance of him. He said nothing about celebrating and making a memorial before God as if God needed to be reminded of what he had done. Paul speaks of proclaiming Christ’s death with the bread and the cup until he comes again. But he is not speaking of proclaiming to God but to our fellow men.

9. The 1928 Prayer of Consecration contains the words: “…with these thy gifts, which we now offer unto thee….” It also contains the words: “And though we be unworthy to offer unto Thee any sacrifice, yet we beseech Thee to accept this our bounden duty and service.” The Reformers rejected the doctrine that the priest offers a sacrifice of Christ's Body and Blood. Cranmer therefore removed from the 1552 Prayer Book all expressions that taught a presence of Christ in the consecrated elements, and all expressions that implied the offering of them as a sacrifice. For this reason Cranmer removed the word “Altar,” and all words in the Prayer of Consecration relating to any offering of a sacrifice by the priest. The Reformers also discarded eucharistic vestments such as the chasuble.

10. The rubrical permission to sing a hymn immediately before the distribution of the Communion permits the singing of the Agnes Dei. Coming where it does, it suggests a presence of Christ in the Bread and Wine as a result of the words of Consecration, and for this reason it was removed by Cranmer from the 1552 Prayer Book. This suggestion is further strengthened by the placement of the Lord’s Prayer and the Prayer of Humble Access immediately before the distribution of the Communion. For the same reason they were moved by Cranmer to different positions in the 1552 Prayer Book, the Lord’s Prayer to a position immediately after the distribution of the Communion and the Prayer of Humble Access to a position immediately after the Sanctus.

The 1928 Book of Common Prayer also changes the baptismal theology of the American Prayer Book.

1. The opening sentence of the Exhortation of the Baptismal Office “forasmuch as all men are born and conceived in sin” has been omitted.

2. The 1928 Prayer Book drops the Flood Prayer that had been in the Book of Common Prayer since the 1549 Prayer Book and in the American Prayer Book since 1789. The Flood Prayer teaches that God has “sanctified the element of water to the mystical washing away of sin” through Our Lord’s baptism in the River Jordan. For this reason the form for the private baptism of infants in the 1552, 1559, 1604, and 1662 Prayer Books does not contain a blessing of the water used in baptism.

One cannot make even the slightest alteration in a text without affecting the doctrine of the text. Dropping the Flood Prayer that stresses God’s sanctification of the element of water for the purpose of baptism is as serious an alteration of doctrine in the 1928 Prayer Book as the addition of prayers for the departed.

3. The biblical language of the Prayer for the Baptismal Candidate has been watered down.

4. The 1928 Prayer Book recasts the prayer “Almighty, everliving God, whose most dearly beloved Son, etc…” along the lines of the Prayer of Consecration in the service of Holy Communion. This recasting emphasizes the priestly blessing of the water in the font. This is also a feature of the 1928 English Revised Prayer Book and the 1962 Canadian Prayer Book.

The rubrics of 1928 Prayer Book do permit private baptism even by a baptized layperson in cases of dire emergency without a blessing of the water since its omission would have gone against Catholic tradition but its inclusion does not counterbalance the recasting of “Almighty, everliving God, whose most dearly beloved Son, etc…”.

5. The signing of the newly baptized with the cross upon the forehead, a practice that Evangelicals view as without warrant in the Bible, to which they have long objected, and which was optional in the 1892 Office of Baptism, is made mandatory.

6. The 1928 Book of Common Prayer gives liturgical expression to the unreformed Catholic doctrine that a bishop in a line of succession going back to the apostles, through the imposition of hands, has the power to confer upon an ordinand in turn the power to convert the substance of the eucharistic elements into the substance of the Body and Blood of Christ (Transubstantiation) and to impart to the element of water the power to regenerate the human soul (Baptismal Regeneration).

The Thirty-Nine Articles rejects the doctrine of Transubstantiation. Evangelicals and Anglo-Catholics are sharply divided over the doctrine of Baptismal Regeneration. The Privy Council, the highest judicial authority for the Church of England at the time, ruled against Bishop Henry Philpotts and the doctrine of Baptismal Regeneration in the Gorham decision in 1850. The Privy Council ruled that Baptismal Regeneration was not a doctrine of the Church of England and Bishop Philpotts should not have denied a living to George Gorham in the Diocese of Exeter because Gorham did not believe that the grace of regeneration invariably accompanied the act of baptism.

Baptismal Regeneration was one of the latent Catholic doctrines in the 1789 Book of Common Prayer that, with the growth and increased influence of Tractarianism in the then Protestant Episcopal Church, prompted Bishop George David Cummins and conservative Evangelical clergy and laypersons to leave the Protestant Episcopal Church in 1873 and to form the Reformed Episcopal Church.

The 1928 Book of Common Prayer replaces the Prayer Book Catechism with two Offices of Instruction. The Second Office articulates a view of Confirmation, which has no real basis in the Bible and is not found in the Reformed Prayer Book of 1552, the classical Anglican Prayer Book of 1662, or the first two American Prayer Books of 1789 and 1892. It is a sacramental view of Confirmation that differs from the catechetical view of Confirmation that was held by the English Reformers and is given liturgical expression in these four Prayer Books. It is also a view of Confirmation over which Anglicans are sharply divided.

The 1928 Prayer Book omits the preface to the Office of Confirmation that was a feature of the 1662, 1789, and 1892 Offices of Confirmation and which emphasizes the catechetical nature of Confirmation. The presentation of the candidates for Confirmation to the bishop is modeled upon that of the presentation of candidates for ordination. The 1928 Prayer Book includes Acts 8 as an optional reading. This particular reading and what it means is the subject of much heated debate.

The biblical language of the Burial Office has been diluted. The Burial Office includes a number of prayers for the departed.

In the Ordinal there is a significant change in the form of the question put to the deacon concerning the Bible. Instead of being asked, “Do you unfeignedly believe all the Canonical Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments?” the candidate is asked “Are you persuaded that the Holy Scriptures contains all Doctrine required as necessary for salvation through faith in Jesus Christ?” The candidate is no longer required to affirm a blanket belief in the teachings of the Bible.

In the Form for the Consecration of a Church or Chapel any reference to God’s anger or wrath has been expunged

From a Reformed perspective the 1928 Book of Common Prayer suffers from a number of serious theological defects. This rules out the use of the 1928 Prayer Book in public worship in an Anglican church that is Reformed in its doctrine. If prayers and liturgical material is used from the 1928 Prayer Book, great care should be taken to see that their doctrine conforms with the biblical-Reformation doctrine of the Thirty-Nine Articles, the 1662 Book of Common Prayer, and the 1661 Ordinal.

Anglicans have long recognized how we pray reflects and shapes what we believe. What good does it do to preach one thing when the liturgy that we are using and the worship practices that we have adopted teach another? Both our preaching and our liturgy and worship practices need to convey the same message.

Endnotes:

[1] Samuel Leuenberger, Archbishop Cranmer’s Immortal Bequest The Book of Common Prayer of the Church of England: An Evangelistic Liturgy, (Grand Rapids, Michigan: William B. Eerdmans Publishing Company, 1990) 152.
[2] Leuenberger, 153.
[3]Henry Broxap, The Late Non-Jurors, “Appendix II Non Juror Doctrine and Ceremonies” (Cambridge 1928), 1, appendix on the Internet at: http://anglicanhistory.org/nonjurors/broxapapp2.pdf

1. Anna = Isis = Gabriel?? ( www.amazon.god ??!!)
2. Marcus = Set = Lucifer = Ra??
3. Chad = Horus = Michael??

Think about it. I'm going to think about it -- while rewatching both seasons of 'V' (2009-10) -- while wearing my Fedora and drinking my coffee. I am of peace. Always.

1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zb5pLp-FcRg&feature=related
2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDPGWKfdgwM&feature=related
3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50BZMNhe0j4&feature=related
4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEWGy6gP1jw&feature=related
5. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugWCRliG4Rg&feature=related
6. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFkogeYx3uo
7. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3A6_blpqpU
8. http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=90342&pageNumber=2&pageSize=15
9. http://www.alexcollier.org/
10. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Martel (Look closely at church history between 700AD and 1200AD!!)
11. http://www.blogtalkradio.com/sherrytalkradio/2012/10/02/monday-night-with-sherry-shriner

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/sherrytalkradio/2014/07/08/07-07-14-monday-night-with-sherry-shriner
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/sherrytalkradio/2015/10/20/10-19-15-monday-night-with-sherry-shriner

Pris wrote: I just finished watching the latest two Star Trek movies. Then, while reviewing your old thread, I read you mentioning that Star Trek's Khan is Enki.  Wowee.  It all makes total sense now.  And, your... involvement with Enki more intriguing than ever... Then, I thought about how, in the latest Star Trek movie, Khan crushes the Admiral's head and it hit me that Roy did exactly the same thing in Bladerunner to Tyrell.  Roy is Enki.  The Nexus 6 are 'Roy's people'.  It's the same fight with Khan and his people. And, we've got a small group of Zionist Jews that believe they are the 'chosen ones' whose leader is Jehovah (Enki) -- an 'advanced', genetically engineered human being, kept 'immortal' with nano technology -- a 'superior' human, a megalomaniacal 'god' who has gone insane (that's a mouthful). IMO, no one played him better than Ricardo Montalban.

Pris wrote:You mentioned that Enki is beginning to remember who he is, what's been done to him, and how he had been tricked.  He was never supposed to remember... let alone turn on his 'maker' and his own people.

Pris wrote:

Here, he finds his compassion... his love for all life, his soul released.

Jenetta wrote:

LIFE IN OCCUPIED PALESTINE
This video is an eye opener.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch5XlEZoi1c

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As it is below; so it is above

orthodoxymoron wrote:I'm really trying to be International and Ecumenical -- but I keep getting the sinking-feeling that ALL nations and religions are controlled by a central-power which is above all recognized and visible powers. This is a hypothesis -- but I just can't seem to negate it. In other words -- Israel might not control Israel. The Vatican might not control the Vatican. The United States might not control the United States. England might not control England. Russia might not control Russia. China might not control China. As you well know, I support the concept of the RIGHT sort of Global-Governance -- but I seriously question whether the historical and present Global-Governance is RIGHT, or not??!! I used to listen to Pat Buchanan a lot -- and he always made a lot of sense (to me, anyway). Pat has been critical of the relationship between Israel and the United States. I tend to lean toward an idealistic version of the British-Israel phenomenon (even though I'm not sure exactly what that means) -- but neither Britain or Israel seems to be even close to being idealistic.

Carol wrote:

Medical Doctor Sells Practice Opens Up “Farmacy” Using Food as Medicine
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/york-doctor-builds-farmacy-treat-diseases-healthy-food-pharmaceuticals/#2op3iR5yi0Ssxx4w.99

Dr. Robert Weiss believes that a change is coming about in the way we approach health and medicine, or rather a reconnection with knowledge that was shunned with the onset of big pharma.

He sold his practice in New York and built the first farm-based medical practice on a 348-acre farm in Long Valley, New Jersey. It can be called a “farmacy,” a place that explores and utilizes plant-based “food as medicine.”

“Plant-based whole foods are the most powerful disease-modifying tools available to practitioners — more powerful than any drugs or surgeries,” said Weiss, a doctor of 25 years in Hudson County.

Untold billions have been put into the production of synthetic chemicals to treat the symptoms of disease, yet the research of plant-based medicine has taken a back seat, despite its ancient history and already known potential.

The priority is prevention through proper diet, including fruits, vegetables, grains, nuts, beans and seeds. It’s “paleo” plus the best parts of human agriculture before they were turned into processed foods. However, this strict diet regimen can also be used to treat those already afflicted with ailments.

“I am not saying if you fall down and break your ankle, I can fix it by putting a salve of mugwort on it. You need someone to fix your fracture,” Weiss said. “I am talking about treating and preventing chronic disease — the heart attacks, the strokes, the cardiovascular disease, the cancers … the illnesses that are taking our economy and our nation down.”

He says that the nutrients in fruits and vegetables prevent inflammation, which is believed to be the cause of many chronic diseases.

Dr. Weiss said the lunch that was prepared during the interview—“a salad of baby kale, radicchio, purple carrots, cucumbers, onions and cherry husk tomatoes tossed with a walnut vinaigrette, followed by eggplant rollatini with tofu instead of cheese, and dairy-free chocolate pudding garnished with raspberries”—contains many naturally occurring drugs.

The goal is to reduce the reliance on dangerous pharmaceuticals that bring on a host of negative side-effects, addiction, and overdose death. Also, he strives to avoid, where possible, unnecessary surgeries.

Dr. Weiss points to the case of 90-year-old Angelina Rotella of West New York as model success story. On the night before Christmas Eve, she came to his office in a wheelchair with congestive heart failure.

“I asked her, ‘Do you want me to call 911 and admit you to Palisades General? Or will you let me feed you sweet potatoes and kale?’ Amazingly enough, with the help of her daughter, she chose this,” Weiss said. “She doesn’t have diabetes anymore and chronic heart failure. She is cooking, sewing and walking around town. I’m not saying it’s easy, but she seized the opportunity and she is transformed.”

The prescription was a strict diet including “grains (such as whole-grain brown rice and sweet potatoes), steamed greens (including kale and spinach), fruit (a big serving of wild organic blueberries is a must) and water.” Her daughter, Angie Rotella-Suarez, calls it “more than a miracle,” saying her mother stopped taking her heart blood pressure medication within two weeks.

The plant-based diet was so effective that Rotella-Suarez and her sister took up the same diet and lost 40 pounds, and are no longer pre-diabetic.

The farmacy already has 90 families that pay a membership fee and volunteer time picking weeds and harvesting vegetables. Part of the mission is to get people more interested in their diet through being involved in the food production.


Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/york-doctor-builds-farmacy-treat-diseases-healthy-food-pharmaceuticals/#8SEkZFQSOLTHxdUL.99

Carol wrote:

They may feel they "own the night" ,
but you own The Light when you have the knowledge.  
Find out how the National Security State really works.

UFOS  AND THE DEEP NATIONAL SECURITY STATE:
THE MOST EXPLOSIVE EXPOSE ON SECRECY YOU WILL EVER SEE!

Washington DC - Saturday November 21, 20152 pm - 6pm

Join the founder of the global Disclosure movement, Dr. Steven Greer, in Washington DC for a unique opportunity to learn the most comprehensive and explosive expose of UFO secrecy ever presented!

Dr. Greer has been involved in the highest levels of governments and military for over 25 years and will share what he has learned on the who , what , where and why of UFO secrecy and the deep trans-national security state and the constellation of illegal projects that are currently operating.

This 4 hour workshop will include:

-How is secrecy maintained through the hybrid of corporate and government programs?

-Which military bases and facilities and which corporations are involved in this secrecy?

-How is black -budget and criminal activity funding these operations?

-The Connection between the global financial system , UFO technology, drug-running and covert military airspace and bases;

-Where are the key Underground Bases (UGBs) and how are they connected via subterranean tunnels ?

-Who has been involved in managing this secrecy and how is that entity (MAJIC) controlled and operated?

-How do Unacknowledged Special Access Projects (USAPs) operate and how are they kept secret from the people, the President and Congress?

-The History of UFO secrecy since WW II and how it has devolved into its own illegal trans-national cartel.

-See explosive documents on secrecy, how human military
-controlled "Abductions" are "stage-crafted" - and what is the agenda for this Deception.

-What is the future agenda for the cartel managing UFO secrecy-and how you need to prepare for this future!

- The Planned Cosmic 911 Deception- What you NEED to know!

and MUCH MORE.

The workshop will be held at :
1st Congregational United Church of Christ
"Live at 10th and G"
945 G St. NW
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Saturday November 21, 2015 - 2pm - 6pm

orthodoxymoron wrote:I feel as if I might be caught in the middle of at least a Four-Way Power-Struggle:

1. Benevolent ET.
2. Malevolent ET.
3. General-Public.
4. Insiders of All-Kinds.

I get the sinking-feeling that none of them would approve of my incessant-questioning and unconventional-bias. I keep wondering what my deep-seated loyalties really are?? I doubt that true-disclosure will make any of these four-groups happy!! I think there are a lot of beings (human and otherwise) who would love to control what Dr. Steven Greer is revealing -- but probably no one would wish to be at the bottom of the pyramid which is presently coming into view. I've jokingly modeled some possibilities within this website -- and it's frankly made a wreck out of me -- regardless of whether I imagine being an insider or an outsider. I keep thinking that a proper relationship between Humanity and Divinity has not existed for several thousands of years. I keep thinking that The Garden of Eden (figurative and/or literal) is Central to Understanding Our Present Predicament -- Especially Regarding Physicality, Spirituality, Ownership, and Governance. I wish to make it clear (one more time) that I have taken everything off all tables (especially regarding what I've posted on the internet). I have no idea what I've done, said and/or written throughout the millennia (which might be mockingly thrown in my face in modernity). I simply wish for things to somehow be better for all-concerned (but I honestly know very little concerning what's really going-on). I know that I don't know. It honestly wouldn't surprise me if I turned-out to be some sort of an Ancient-Trailblazer who got into a hell of a lot of trouble. But I am NOT part of some vast evil-conspiracy in modernity (that I know of, anyway). I am NOT Sherry Shriner (or a disciple of Sherry Shriner). I think I know more about Sherry than you can imagine -- but I don't want to talk about it. I hint at a lot of things -- but that's about it. BTW -- I think I spoke with two or three rich and famous people recently -- but I don't want to talk about it. It's easier that way. Now I'm going to make the coffee -- or perhaps I should just drink some coconut-water!!

http://origin.btrcdn.com/sherrytalkradio/2015/10/27/10-26-15-monday-night-with-sherry-shriner























http://www.godtype.com/2014/01/mene-mene-tekel-upharsen-daniels-hidden-prophecy-end-age/

B.B.Baghor wrote:

orthodoxymoron wrote:What if the Fiercest Rebels From Throughout the Universe Were Dumped in This Solar System -- and then "encouraged" to fight with each-other in "mutual-slaughter"?? I'm Sirius. I continue to think we need to understand the relationship between the Sovereignty of God -- and Human Responsible-Freedom. Unfortunately, we might have to learn the meaning of these words the hard-way. Novus Ordo Seclorum. Status Quo Ante Bellum. Reductio Ad Absurdum.

To me, ortho, the fiercest rebels are those who KNOW of all that what you describe as desperate outcomes, doom and fate. They've been there, done that. We've been there, done that, I believe. I can say "I'm done with it" can't I? So can you, if you can find it in you and to really mean it. To me, it's the difference of being exposed to forces, of experiencing them and using them, in fear and survival aka continuous warfare and remembering what it is that causes "trouble in paradise" using those same forces to create a life in peace. Creating our own Eden. The fiercest rebels are those who've accepted to come here in a physical body and do it..... differently. The choice is yours, mine, ours, to me there is no other way. Ughhh

What does that line in Latin mean, ortho?
Novus Ordo Seclorum. Status Quo Ante Bellum. Reductio Ad Absurdum.

Egyptian-Pyramid?
Roman-Numerals?
Latin-Writing?
Who-Rules?

We then, as workers together with him, beseech you also that ye receive not the grace of God in vain.   2  (For he saith , I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold , now is the accepted time; behold , now is the day of salvation.)   3 Giving no offence in any thing, that the ministry be not blamed :   4 But in all things approving ourselves as the ministers of God, in much patience, in afflictions, in necessities, in distresses, 5 In stripes, in imprisonments, in tumults, in labours, in watchings, in fastings; 6 By pureness, by knowledge, by longsuffering, by kindness, by the Holy Ghost, by love unfeigned,   7 By the word of truth, by the power of God, by the armour of righteousness on the right hand and on the left,   8 By honour and dishonour, by evil report and good report: as deceivers, and yet true;   9 As unknown , and yet well known ; as dying , and, behold , we live ; as chastened , and not killed ;   10 As sorrowful , yet alway rejoicing ; as poor, yet making many rich ; as having nothing, and yet possessing all things.   11  O ye Corinthians, our mouth is open unto you, our heart is enlarged .   12  Ye are not straitened in us, but ye are straitened in your own bowels.   13 Now for a recompence in the same, (I speak as unto my children,) be ye also enlarged .   14  Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?   15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?   16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said * , I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.   17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate , saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,   18 And will be * a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons * and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.   2 Receive us; we have wronged no man, we have corrupted no man, we have defrauded no man.   3  I speak not this to condemn you: for I have said before , that ye are in our hearts to die and live with you.   4 Great is my boldness of speech toward you, great is my glorying of you: I am filled with comfort, I am exceeding joyful in all our tribulation.   5 For *, when we were come into Macedonia, our flesh had no rest, but we were troubled on every side; without were fightings, within were fears.   6 Nevertheless God, that comforteth those that are cast down, comforted us by the coming of Titus;   7 And not by his coming only, but * by the consolation wherewith he was comforted in you, when he told us your earnest desire, your mourning, your fervent mind toward me; so that I rejoiced the more.   8 For though I made you sorry with a letter, I do not repent , though I did repent : for I perceive that the same epistle hath made you sorry , though it were but for a season.   9 Now I rejoice , not that ye were made sorry , but that ye sorrowed to repentance: for ye were made sorry after a godly manner, that ye might receive damage by us in nothing. 10 For godly * sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.   11 For behold this selfsame thing, that ye sorrowed after a godly sort, what carefulness it wrought in you, yea, what clearing of yourselves, yea, what indignation, yea, what fear, yea, what vehement desire, yea, what zeal, yea, what revenge! In all things ye have approved yourselves to be clear in this matter.   12 Wherefore, though I wrote unto you, I did it not for his cause that had done the wrong , nor for his cause that suffered wrong , but that our care for you in the sight of God might appear unto you.   13 Therefore we were comforted in your comfort: yea, and exceedingly the more joyed we for the joy of Titus, because his spirit was refreshed by you all.   14 For if I have boasted any thing to him of you, I am not ashamed ; but as we spake all things to you in truth, even so our boasting, which I made before Titus, is found a truth.   15 And his inward affection is more abundant toward you, whilst he remembereth the obedience of you all, how with fear and trembling ye received him.   16  I rejoice therefore that I have confidence in you in all things.

Moreover, brethren, we do you to wit of the grace of God bestowed on the churches of Macedonia;   2  How that in a great trial of affliction the abundance of their joy and their deep poverty * abounded unto the riches of their liberality. 3 For to their power, I bear record , yea, and beyond their power they were willing of themselves;   4 Praying us with much intreaty that we would receive the gift, and take upon us the fellowship of the ministering to the saints.   5 And this they did, not as we hoped , but first gave their own selves to the Lord, and unto us by the will of God.   6 Insomuch that we desired Titus, that as he had begun , so he would also finish in you the same grace also. 7 Therefore, as ye abound in every thing, in faith, and utterance, and knowledge, and in all diligence, and in your love * to us, see that ye abound in this grace also.   8  I speak not by commandment, but by occasion of the forwardness of others, and to prove the sincerity of your love.   9 For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor , that ye through his poverty might be rich .   10 And herein I give my advice: for this is expedient for you, who have begun before , not only to do , but also to be forward a year ago. 11 Now * therefore perform the doing of it; that as there was a readiness to will , so there may be a performance also out of that which ye have .   12 For if there be first a willing mind, it is accepted according to that a man hath , and not according to that he hath not.   13 For I mean not that other men be eased, and ye burdened:   14 But by an equality, that now at this time your abundance may be a supply for their want, that their abundance also may be a supply for your want: that there may be equality:   15 As it is written , He that had gathered much had nothing over ; and he that had gathered little had no lack .   16 But thanks be to God, which put the same earnest care into the heart of Titus for you.   17 For indeed he accepted the exhortation; but being more forward, of his own accord he went unto you.   18 And we have sent with him the brother, whose praise is in the gospel throughout all the churches;   19 And not that only, but who was also chosen of the churches to travel with us with this grace, which is administered by us to the glory of the same Lord, and declaration of your ready mind: 20 Avoiding this, that no man should blame us in this abundance which is administered by us:   21 Providing for honest things, not only in the sight of the Lord, but also in the sight of men.   22 And we have sent with them our brother, whom we have oftentimes proved * diligent in many things, but now much more diligent, upon the great confidence which I have in you.   23 Whether any do enquire of Titus, he is my partner and fellowhelper concerning you: or our brethren be enquired of, they are the messengers of the churches, and the glory of Christ.   24 Wherefore shew ye to them, and before the churches, the proof of your love, and of our boasting on your behalf.

For as touching the ministering to the saints, it is superfluous for me to write to you:   2 For I know the forwardness of your mind, for which I boast of you to them of Macedonia, that Achaia was ready a year ago; and your zeal hath provoked very many.   3 Yet have I sent the brethren, lest our boasting of you should be in vain in this behalf; that, as I said , ye may be ready :   4 Lest haply if they of Macedonia come with me, and find you unprepared, we * (that we say not, ye) should be ashamed in this same confident boasting.   5 Therefore I thought it necessary to exhort the brethren, that they would go before unto you, and make up beforehand your bounty, whereof ye had notice before , that the same might be ready *, as a matter of bounty, and not as of covetousness. 6 But this I say, He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully *.   7  Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly *, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.   8 And God is able to make all grace abound toward you; that ye, always having all sufficiency in all things, may abound to every good work:   9  (As it is written , He hath dispersed abroad ; he hath given to the poor: his righteousness remaineth for ever.   10 Now he that ministereth seed to the sower both minister bread for your food, and multiply your seed sown, and increase the fruits of your righteousness;)   11  Being enriched in every thing to all bountifulness, which causeth through us thanksgiving to God. 12 For the administration of this service not only supplieth * the want of the saints, but is abundant also by many thanksgivings unto God;   13  Whiles by the experiment of this ministration they glorify God for your professed subjection unto the gospel of Christ, and for your liberal distribution unto them, and unto all men;   14 And by their prayer for you, which long after you for the exceeding grace of God in you.   15 Thanks be unto God for his unspeakable gift.

Now I Paul myself beseech you by the meekness and gentleness of Christ, who in presence am base * among you, but being absent am bold toward you: 2 But I beseech you, that I may not be bold when I am present with that confidence, wherewith I think to be bold against some, which think of us as if we walked according to the flesh. 3 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh:   4  (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;)   5  Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ; 6 And having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled .   7  Do ye look on things after the outward appearance? If any man trust to himself that he is Christ's, let him of himself think this again, that, as he is Christ's, even so are we Christ's.   8 For * though I should boast somewhat more of our authority, which the Lord hath given us for edification, and not for your destruction, I should not be ashamed :   9 That I may not seem as if I would terrify you by letters.   10 For his letters *, say they , are weighty and powerful; but his bodily presence is weak, and his speech contemptible . 11 Let such an one think this, that, such as we are in word by letters when we are absent , such will we be also in deed when we are present .   12 For we dare not make ourselves of the number , or compare ourselves with some that commend themselves: but they measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves among themselves, are not wise . 13 But we will not boast of things without our measure, but according to the measure of the rule which God hath distributed to us, a measure to reach even unto you. 14 For we stretch not ourselves beyond our measure, as though we reached not unto you: for we are come as far as to you also in preaching the gospel of Christ:   15 Not boasting of things without our measure, that is, of other men's labours; but having hope, when your faith is increased , that we shall be enlarged by you according to our rule abundantly *, 16  To preach the gospel in the regions beyond you, and not to boast in another man's line of things made ready to our hand. 17 But he that glorieth , let him glory in the Lord.   18 For not he that commendeth himself is approved, but whom the Lord commendeth .

Would to God ye could bear with me a little in my folly: and indeed bear with me.   2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.   3 But I fear , lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.   4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached , or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received , or another gospel, which ye have not accepted , ye might well bear with him.   5 For I suppose I was not a whit behind the very chiefest apostles.   6 But though I be rude in speech, yet not in knowledge; but we have been throughly made manifest among you in all things.   7 Have I committed an offence in abasing myself that ye might be exalted , because I have preached to you the gospel of God freely?   8  I robbed other churches, taking wages of them, to do you service.   9 And when I was present with you, and wanted , I was chargeable to no man: for that which was lacking to me the brethren which came from Macedonia supplied : and in all things I have kept myself from being burdensome unto you, and so will I keep myself.   10  As the truth of Christ is in me *, no man shall stop me of this boasting in the regions of Achaia. 11 Wherefore? because I love you not? God knoweth .   12 But what I do , that I will do , that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory , they may be found even as we.   13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.   14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.   15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.   16  I say again, Let no man think me * a fool; if otherwise, yet as a fool receive me, that I may boast myself a little.

That which I speak , I speak it not after the Lord, but as it were foolishly *, in this confidence of boasting.   18  Seeing that many glory after the flesh, I will glory also.   19 For ye suffer fools gladly, seeing ye yourselves are wise.   20 For ye suffer , if a man bring you into bondage , if a man devour you, if a man take of you, if a man exalt himself , if a man smite you on the face.   21  I speak as concerning reproach, as though we had been weak . Howbeit whereinsoever * * any is bold , (I speak foolishly *,) I am bold also.   22  Are they Hebrews? so am I. Are they Israelites? so am I. Are they the seed of Abraham? so am I.   23  Are they ministers of Christ? (I speak as a fool ) I am more; in labours more abundant, in stripes above measure, in prisons more frequent, in deaths oft.   24 Of the Jews five times received I forty stripes save one.   25 Thrice was I beaten with rods , once was I stoned , thrice I suffered shipwreck , a night and a day I have been in the deep;   26  In journeyings often, in perils of waters, in perils of robbers, in perils by mine own countrymen, in perils by the heathen, in perils in the city, in perils in the wilderness, in perils in the sea, in perils among false brethren;   27 In weariness and painfulness, in watchings often, in hunger and thirst, in fastings often, in cold and nakedness.   28 Beside those things that are without, that which cometh upon me daily *, the care of all the churches.   29 Who is weak , and I am not weak ? who is offended , and I burn not?   30 If I must needs glory , I will glory of the things which concern mine infirmities.   31  The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which is blessed for evermore, knoweth that I lie not.   32 In Damascus the governor under Aretas the king kept the city of the Damascenes with a garrison , desirous to apprehend me:   33 And through a window in a basket was I let down by the wall, and escaped his hands.

It is not expedient for me doubtless to glory * . I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord. 2  I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, * (whether in the body, I cannot tell ; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell : God knoweth such an one caught up to the third heaven.   3 And I knew such a man, * (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell : God knoweth   4  How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter . 5 Of such an one will I glory : yet of myself I will not glory , but in mine infirmities.   6 For though I would desire to glory , I shall not be a fool; for I will say the truth: but now I forbear , lest any man should think of me above that which he seeth me to be, or that he heareth of * me.   7 And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure .   8 For this thing I besought the Lord thrice, that it might depart from me.   9 And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.   10 Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for Christ's sake: for when I am weak , then am I strong.   11  I am become a fool in glorying ; ye have compelled me: for I ought to have been commended of you: for in nothing am I behind the very chiefest apostles *, though I be nothing.   12 Truly the signs of an apostle were wrought among you in all patience, in signs, and wonders, and mighty deeds.   13 For what is it wherein ye were inferior to other churches, except it be that I myself was not burdensome to you? forgive me this wrong.   14 Behold , the third time I am ready to come to you; and I will not be burdensome to you: for I seek not yours, but you: for the children ought not to lay up for the parents, but the parents for the children.   15 And I will very gladly spend and be spent for you * ; though the more abundantly I love you, the less I be loved . 16 But be it so , I did not burden you: nevertheless, being crafty, I caught you with guile.   17  Did I make a gain * of you by any of them whom I sent unto you?   18  I desired Titus, and with him I sent a brother. Did * Titus make a gain of you? walked we not in the same spirit? walked we not in the same steps?   19 Again, think ye that we excuse ourselves unto you? we speak before God in Christ: but we do all things, dearly beloved, for your edifying.   20 For I fear , lest *, when I come , I shall not find you such as I would , and that I shall be found unto you such as ye would not: lest there be debates, envyings, wraths, strifes, backbitings, whisperings, swellings, tumults:   21  And lest, when I come again, my God will humble me among you, and that I shall bewail many which have sinned already , and have not repented of the uncleanness and fornication and lasciviousness which they have committed .

This is the third time I am coming to you. In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established .   2  I told you before , and foretell you , as if I were present , the second time; and being absent now I write to them which heretofore have sinned , and to all other, that, if I come again *, I will not spare :   3 Since ye seek a proof of Christ speaking in me, which to you-ward is not weak , but is mighty in you.   4 For * though he was crucified through weakness, yet he liveth by the power of God. For we also are weak in him, but we shall live with him by the power of God toward you. 5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves *. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates *?   6 But I trust that ye shall know that we are not reprobates.   7 Now I pray to God that ye do * no evil; not that we should appear approved, but that ye should do that which is honest, though we be as reprobates.   8 For we can do nothing * against the truth, but for the truth.   9 For we are glad , when we are weak , and ye are strong: and this also we wish , even your perfection. 10 Therefore I write these things being absent , lest being present I should use sharpness, according to the power which the Lord hath given me to edification, and not to destruction.   11 Finally, brethren, farewell . Be perfect , be of good comfort , be of one mind , live in peace ; and the God of love and peace shall be with you.   12 Greet one another with an holy kiss.   13 All the saints salute you.   14  The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all.

Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ,   4 Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:   5  To whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.   6  I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:   7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.   8 But though * we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.   9 As we said before , so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received , let him be accursed.   10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.   11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.   12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.   13 For ye have heard of my conversation in time past in the Jews' religion, how that beyond measure I persecuted the church of God, and wasted it:   14 And profited in the Jews' religion above many my equals in mine own nation, being more exceedingly zealous of the traditions of my fathers. 15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace,   16  To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:   17 Neither went I up to Jerusalem to them which were apostles before me; but I went into Arabia, and returned again unto Damascus.   18 Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and abode with him fifteen days. 19 But other of the apostles saw I none, save James the Lord's brother.   20 Now the things which I write unto you, behold , before God *, I lie not.   21 Afterwards I came into the regions of Syria and Cilicia;   22 And was unknown by face unto the churches of Judaea which were in Christ:   23 But they had heard only, That he which persecuted us in times past now preacheth the faith which once he destroyed .   24 And they glorified God in me.

Then fourteen years after I went up again to Jerusalem with Barnabas, and took Titus with me also.   2 And I went up by revelation, and communicated unto them that gospel which I preach among the Gentiles, but privately to them which were of reputation , lest by any means I should run , or had run , in vain. 3 But neither Titus, who was with me, being a Greek, was compelled to be circumcised :   4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage :   5  To whom we gave place by subjection, no, not for an hour; that the truth of the gospel might continue with you.   6 But of these who seemed to be somewhat, * (whatsoever they were , it maketh no matter to me: God accepteth no man's person:) for they who seemed to be somewhat in conference added nothing to me:   7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me , as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;   8  (For he that wrought effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the Gentiles:)   9 And when James *, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.   10 Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same * which I also was forward to do .   11 But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed .   12 For before that certain came from James, he did eat with the Gentiles: but when they were come , he withdrew and separated himself, fearing them which were of the circumcision.   13 And the other Jews dissembled likewise with him; insomuch that Barnabas also was carried away with their dissimulation.   14 But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews ?   15 We who are Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles,   16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no * flesh be justified .   17 But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid * .   18 For if I build again the things which I destroyed , I make myself a transgressor.   19 For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.   20  I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live ; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.   21  I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth , crucified among you?   2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?   3  Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?   4  Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain.   5  He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?   6  Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness. 7  Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.   8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed .   9  So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.   10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written , Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.   11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.   12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.   13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written , Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:   14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.   15 Brethren, I speak after the manner of men; Though it be but a man's covenant, yet if it be confirmed , no man disannulleth , or addeth thereto . 16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made . He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.   17 And this I say , that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul , that it should make the promise of none effect .   18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.   19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made ; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.   20 Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.   21  Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid * : for if there had been a law given which could have given life , verily righteousness should have been by the law.   22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe .   23 But before faith came , we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed .   24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.   25 But after that faith is come , we are no longer * under a schoolmaster.   26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.   27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.   28  There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.   29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Now I say , That the heir, as long as * he is a child, differeth nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all;   2 But is under tutors and governors until the time appointed of the father.   3 Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world: 4 But when the fulness of the time was come , God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,   5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.   6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying , Abba, Father.   7 Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.   8 Howbeit then *, when ye knew not God, ye did service unto them which by nature are no gods.   9 But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage ? 10  Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years.   11  I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain.   12 Brethren, I beseech you, be as I am; for I am as ye are: ye have not injured me at all.   13 Ye know how through infirmity of the flesh I preached the gospel unto you at the first.   14 And my temptation which was in my flesh ye despised not, nor rejected ; but received me as an angel of God, even as Christ Jesus.   15 Where is then the blessedness ye spake of? for I bear you record , that, if it had been possible, ye would have plucked out your own eyes, and have given them * to me.

Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth ?   17  They zealously affect you, but not well; yea, they would exclude you, that ye might affect them. 18 But it is good to be zealously affected always in a good thing, and not only when I am present with you.   19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until * Christ be formed in you,   20 I desire to be present with you now, and to change my voice; for I stand in doubt of you.   21 Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?   22 For it is written , that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid *, the other by a freewoman.   23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.   24  Which things are an allegory : for these are the two covenants; the one * from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. 25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.   26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.   27 For it is written , Rejoice , thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry , thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.   28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.   29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.   30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.   31  So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.

Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free , and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.   2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised , Christ shall profit you nothing.   3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised , that he is a debtor to do the whole law.   4 Christ is become of no effect unto you * , whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.   5 For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.   6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.   7  Ye did run well; who did hinder you that ye should not obey the truth? 8  This persuasion cometh not of him that calleth you.   9  A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump.   10 I have confidence in you through the Lord, that ye will be none otherwise minded : but he that troubleth you shall bear his judgment, whosoever he be * .   11 And I, brethren, if I yet preach circumcision, why do I yet suffer persecution ? then is the offence of the cross ceased .   12  I would they were even cut off which trouble you.   13 For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.   14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.   15 But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.   16  This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.   17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would .   18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.   19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,   20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,   21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before , as I have also told you in time past , that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.   22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,   23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.   24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. 25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.   26  Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.

Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted .   2  Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.   3 For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself.   4 But let every man prove his own work, and then shall he have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another.   5 For every man shall bear his own burden.   6 Let him that is taught in the word communicate unto him that teacheth in all good things.   7 Be not deceived ; God is not mocked : for whatsoever a man soweth , that shall he also reap .   8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.   9 And let us not be weary in well doing : for in due season we shall reap , if we faint not.   10 As we have therefore * opportunity, let us do good unto all men, especially * unto them who are of the household of faith.   11  Ye see how large a letter I have written unto you with mine own hand.   12  As many as desire to make a fair shew in the flesh, they constrain you to be circumcised ; only lest they should suffer persecution for the cross of Christ.   13 For neither they themselves who are circumcised keep the law; but desire to have you circumcised , that they may glory in your flesh.   14 But God forbid * that I should glory , save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world. 15 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.   16 And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God.   17  From henceforth let no man trouble me * : for I bear in my body the marks of the Lord Jesus.   18 Brethren, the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with your spirit.

Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.   3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:   4  According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:   5  Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,   6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved .   7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;   8 Wherein he hath abounded toward us in all wisdom and prudence;   9  Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:   10  That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him: 11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance , being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:   12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. 13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed , ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,   14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.   15 Wherefore I also, after I heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus, and love unto all the saints,   16 Cease not to give thanks for you, making mention of you in my prayers;   17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him: 18  The eyes of your understanding being enlightened ; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints,   19 And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe , according to the working of his mighty power,   20 Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,   21  Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named , not only in this world, but also in that which is to come :   22 And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church,   23 Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.

And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;   2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:   3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. 4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,   5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved   6 And hath raised us up together , and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:   7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.   8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:   9 Not of works, lest any man should boast .   10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. 11 Wherefore remember , that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;   12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:   13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.   14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;   15  Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one * new man, so making peace;   16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby * : 17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.   18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.   19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;   20  And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;   21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:   22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles,   2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:   3  How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; * (as I wrote afore in few words,   4 Whereby *, when ye read , ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)   5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;   6  That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:   7 Whereof I was made a minister, according to the gift of the grace of God given unto me by the effectual working of his power.   8  Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given , that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ;   9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:   10  To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God,   11  According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord:   12 In whom we have boldness and access with confidence by the faith of him.   13 Wherefore I desire that ye faint not at my tribulations for you, which is your glory.   14  For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,   15 Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named ,   16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;   17  That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,   18  May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;   19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.   20 Now unto him that is able to do exceeding abundantly * above all that we ask or think , according to the power that worketh in us,   21  Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end.

I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called , 2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love;   3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.   4  There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;   5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,   6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.   7 But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.   8 Wherefore he saith , When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. 9  (Now that he ascended , what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?   10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.) 11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;   12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:   13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: 14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro , and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness *, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;   15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:   16 From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part *, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.  

This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as * other Gentiles walk , in the vanity of their mind,   18  Having the understanding darkened , being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart: 19 Who being past feeling have given themselves over unto lasciviousness, to work all uncleanness with greediness.   20 But ye have not so learned Christ;   21  If so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus:   22  That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;   23 And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;   24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness. 25 Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour: for we are members one of another.   26  Be ye angry , and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath:   27 Neither give place to the devil.   28 Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour , working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth * .  29 Let no * corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers . 30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.   31 Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:   32 And be ye kind one to another *, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as * God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.

Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children;   2 And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour.   3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;   4 Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient : but rather giving of thanks.   5 For this ye know * , that no * whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.   6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. 7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them.   8 For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:   9  (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)   10 Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.   11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather * reprove them.   12 For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.   13 But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light. 14 Wherefore he saith , Awake thou that sleepest , and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light .   15 See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise,   16 Redeeming the time, because the days are evil.  

Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is.   18 And be not drunk with wine, wherein * is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;   19 Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord;   20  Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ;   21  Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.   22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.   23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.   24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.   25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;   26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,   27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.   28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.   29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:   30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.   31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one * flesh.   32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.   33 Nevertheless * let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.

Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right.   2 Honour thy father and mother; * (which is the first commandment with promise;)   3 That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth.   4 And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath : but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord.   5 Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ;   6 Not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but as the servants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart;   7 With good will doing service , as to the Lord, and not to men:   8 Knowing that whatsoever * good thing any man doeth , the same shall he receive of the Lord, whether he be bond or free.   9 And, ye masters, do the same things unto them, forbearing threatening: knowing that your * Master also is in heaven; neither is there respect of persons with him. 10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.   11  Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.   12 For we wrestle not against * flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. 13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand .   14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;   15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;   16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.   17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:   18 Praying always * * with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto * * with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;   19 And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open * my mouth boldly *, to make known the mystery of the gospel,   20 For which I am an ambassador in bonds: that therein I may speak boldly , as I ought to speak . 21 But that ye also may know my affairs, and how I do , Tychicus, a beloved brother and faithful minister in the Lord, shall make known to you all things:   22 Whom I have sent unto you for the same purpose, that ye might know our affairs, and that he might comfort your hearts.   23 Peace be to the brethren, and love with faith, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.   24 Grace be with all them that love our Lord Jesus Christ in sincerity.  

Pris wrote:

blue roller wrote: Hey Pris , thanks for putting that up ,blown away are we ?

Oh dont worry there is more . Winchester,a private boarding school has always been a favored training school for our on duty recruits . 'Winchester cathedral , your bringing me down '.
Shrewsbury is another.

Notice the resemblance ?

Yes , I do have pictures of him now but I am not going to put them up here , sorry ,that would be pushing my luck .

In his true authentic self he is the essence of a true warrior . Fearless, devoted and kind to a fault. Much like Picard is portrayed in some ways though not all .

Captain Blacks surname TURNER is obviously a reference to him being 'turned' .

Paul is indeed an exceptional pilot . He is indeed physically immortal . His martial abilities are off the charts . And yes he does come from a long line of proud warriors . His native culture was and still is a warrior culture . Though I share a common ancestry with him , my people were colonists and artificers . Craftsmen and women.

We created the ultimate defensive weapons system . A system that saved souls amongst other things, not destroyed them .
Our Ships ,deep recon vessels of astonishing sophistication are even now , unequaled .

The skills gifted to us were done so for good reason . To balance out the abusers of power . To hold the line and give hope to those who have lost it.
Mass produced weapons may work to control the masses . But Crafted weapons are of much higher martial quality and effectiveness . It is how 'the few' manage to hold the line so effectively against the odds.

'Pris wrote:So, all these 'different' people, represented by different characters, are all in fact the same person, split up / cloned...
And appear to one another as brother, son, father, adversary?

Enki = Enlil

Kirk = Khan

Picard = Shinzon

Luke = Vader

Deckard = Roy

So... how many men does this involve?

This is a long shot. Are we talking about the 'original' man, 'Adam' (immortal [nano technology] super soldier), cloned?

This hybridized human experiment...

Women don't have 'the problem' because they have the mitochondrial DNA?

Men had to be cloned from Adam so we could reproduce ourselves?

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Okay, wait, wait... or is Adam the very first clone made from Enki (immortal, hybridized human super soldier)?

That makes more sense... This is a bit confusing.

I'm trying to figure it out. Am I getting there?

Pris wrote:

blue roller wrote:There is a lot more to this story that I need to fill you in on . Watch Forbidden Planet . You need to understand that Film.

Okay, I've watched it (cool movie, saw it years ago but barely remembered it).

Creature from the id, a creature created with the dark thoughts of one's own mind. It's an aspect of one's self.



It's just like in Star Trek: The Final Frontier, when Sybok realizes he created 'God', an aspect of himself, from his own arrogance and vanity.



I also remember this episode from Star Trek: The Alternative Factor.

Lazarus manages to steal the ship's dilithium and return to the planet. Kirk follows and discovers that Lazarus is two people — one sane and one a madman, with one from an anti-matter universe. The sane Lazarus informs Kirk that the beings can only appear in either universe one at a time. Should both men be in the same place at the same time, both universes would be destroyed. Kirk helps the sane Lazarus trap his counterpart in an intermediate time corridor where they can hurt neither the matter nor anti-matter universe, but where the two will be trapped in fight until the end of time.

►http://www.startrek.com/database_article/the-alternative-factor

Pris wrote:

blue roller wrote: Your Soul crafted your DNA over the millenia . Your mother has kept it in safe keeping for you . She recognizes the true owner and gives you the keys to drive the body . The keys to operate the body at full functioning capacity.

Enki and others have sought to hold the Mothers as well as us Ransom to extort the keys both to Immortality and total control of the Genomes of every species . Now that's greedy.

Fukushima. Break it down. XXXX you she mother ! That's the cabal trying to send a message of fear and domination to mother earth .

That's what we are up against here . A cabal bent on owning everything that lives and breathes .

Same old story . Some psychopath wants to rule the galaxy .

So who do you love ? Mother earth or the machine that is torturing her to death ?

Thats it in a nutshell. That's the message of Avatar isnt it ?

"I will stand and fight ,you know I will , but I could use a little help here "

I was banned from PA accused of recruiting ! Well in a sense that's true . But why would I be condemned for speaking up for mother earth ? What does that say about PA's real agenda ?

Pris , you know the answers already. you Live your truth . That is your Honor and dignity . You see what needs to be seen .That is your strength .
You are the only person that really listened ,really made an effort . That is a sign of great courage and humility .
When you honor life you honor yourself and all around you .

Greed drives most humans because fear dominates their lives . They are completely reliant on the system for everything. They dont build a life , they borrow it. They put their faith in a delusion called god and 'god' gives them delusion they sought. The super computer from Altair 1V was brought here . To feed the illusion and entrap humanity. It lies under the Bermuda triangle. The wounded beast .

Enki is trying to escape this planet .He is the beast and the beast is him. He programmed the beast with his personality to empower himself. If enki is so powerful why does he want to leave ? If he is god , what is holding him back ? He is delusional and a danger to all civilized life in the universe .

What terrible webs we weave when first we practice to deceive.

The beast has enslaved mother earth in an electromagnetic grid . She is fighting for her life and needs our help.

So 'God' is a dirty word in my book and anyone who claims to be one, delusional . We are all children of life , that should be enough to celebrate for ever without sucking up to some psychopath.

I crafted my own DNA?! That's amazing!

F****** unreal.

That PA thread... I did do my best to listen. It was mostly over my head at the time, but there was something about what you were saying that was ringing bells with me. It made me angry because I wanted to hear more but then Bill pulled the plug.

Btw, I think that lady you were mentioning, her avatar's name was Callista (I just checked, I think she's still there):

I found this comment she made:

Callista wrote: I got back from being on duty and woke to the sound of cages rattling!

Everyone, here’s my two cents worth, so please bear with me and don’t attack those bearing gifts.

The problem of course is the Trojan Horse – the negative ego which resides in the reptilian brain. Its called the reptilian brain because its reptilian and we were fitted with one so they could control us . Reptilians like doing the same thing over and over and they like running with the herd. They don’t like change because their ego is sovereign in repetition.

The major problem with that is Heracles’ law of the universe – Change is the only Constant.

So if you want to understand things in a multidimensional sense, you have to allow yourself a few changes of MIND. If you want to circumvent the reptilian brain, try using IRONY.

Irony (from Ancient Greek εἰρωνεία (eirōneía), meaning "dissimulation, feigned ignorance"[1]),

maurice is throwing gems at you and all you see are pieces of undigested meat. You have to get yourself off the milk and tear into the meat with both hands – true self-knowledge does not come on a silver platter, all cut up and ready to go. Its not convenience food.

In this paradigm you have to go out into the wilderness and hunt and gather, feed yourself and toughen up for what is to come. If you are lucky you will find a wise man sitting under a tree who will give you some cryptic gems that will challenge you and get your DNA working. Yes it will get you angry and resentful and frustrated but it will break down the illusionary walls of the ego and give you freedom.

You are experiencing the fear of the open heart, and I do understand that, I have been there, but mistrust and fear is the old language. Humanity is on the knife-edge right now. Please try and work out who you really are. And appreciate those few who are handing you gifts, while we are still here. You ask for disclosure, and here it is, but you don’t recognize it because it is in a meat suit.

much love and believe me I mean it

Callista

Here's one of your quotes, Maurice, that caught my eye:

Maurice wrote: One beast , many heads . If you are hacked by the beast you are one of its talking heads . In the old days they called it Medusa . An insane woman with snakes heads pouring out of her head, Yes ?

The beast is powered by a singularity , a black hole . Its tendrils are millions of magnetic strings surrounding the earth and feeding you with its hate . It monitors all of you and looks for weak hearts to hack and turn into its mouthpieces . Yes ! that's what it does.

But because its growing weaker and loosing power (the mothers are sucking away its venom literally ) the people are no longer as fully under its control. Enki feeds the beast with war . Its the ultimate dysfunctional relationship .

I'm so glad you found me and have taken the time to help me learn who and what I really am.

If this is about recruiting, you can count me in.

B.B.Baghor wrote:

orthodoxymoron wrote: If the Secret-Government -- the Secret Space-Program -- and All Secret-Technology is NOT for the General-Public -- I think they could've kept the secrets a lot better. If All of the Above IS ultimately for the General-Public -- I think they could've done a MUCH better PR Job. Imagine if all those working in All of the Above were completely-removed from contact with the Outside-World. Imagine if All of the Above occurred within the Moon. Imagine if we never went (or even faked going) to the Moon (officially) -- and simply operated conventional spacecraft in low Earth-Orbit -- with no unconventional spacecraft EVER visible to the General-Public. Imagine if there were no questionable governmental-activities  -- state-sponsored terror -- stupid-wars -- etc. -- to make the public suspicious and angry. You know -- just fund all the secret-stuff in a very subtle and invisible manner. I'm NOT saying this would be ethical and advisable -- but wouldn't it make a lot more sense than what the PTB have been doing?? What if there are no reptilians and greys from other solar systems?? What if WE created reptilians and greys within THIS solar system?? What if reptilians were created by one corporation -- greys by another corporation -- and humans by yet another corporation?? What Would the Rand Corporation Say?? What Would the Ilaria Corporation say?? What Would Julia, Constance, and Spencer Say?? What Would Balem Abrasax Say?? What Would Jupiter Jones Say?? What Would Monseigneur Bowe Say??

                  Ortho, you'll only find more questions by trying to find answers in this way
           And you know that it is so.

You know so much and yet... you seem to have a hard time believing in it yourself
at least that's how I see you at this moment, like a cat turning in circles before lying down on that spot.
I know you're modeling at the same time, that's what makes it difficult to really "get" you, when discussing

matters here, see what I mean? I think, but not with my mind, that I do get you, but on a level that is beyond words.
Saying that, doesn't help you to find peace of mind, when it's your mind that rules, foremost when the door with the word
"Surrender"

on it is in sight. As human beings, as a humanity, we've been tricked and fooled so often, in so many ways, that our mind yells

all the time "NO, that's a NO GO for me!!!" I don't suggest AT ALL that that door should be opened, to be clear. To me, that

would be in the same category of "trick or treat" manipulation, as all those of our past, through eons of time.

Imagine, for a moment, that all human thoughts and spoken words are genuine (and feeble) attempts to find truth, mainly frag-

ments of truths, for the sole reason that we still live on the dark side of DISCLOSURE, in fragmented consciousness with duality

as a cherry-twin on top of that rather solid cake. At the same time, we need words in the condition we live in now, to define and
make clear to others, what we mean to share and clarify. You're doing it in your way and I do it in mine.
Let's not be toooo sirius about it, okay?
Hello weaning off siriusness...  Hello humor.... even in the dark of almost October 31?

Imagine, for a moment, that there's a presence, a consciousness, that is kind of.... prime... root... of life.
Call it alpha & omega or the spark of life in a void not yet expressed in form, the WORD not yet spoken,
present beyond our human mind, present below
currents of life and forms of 3D planet Earth' life-expressions.

Imagine, for a moment, that your soul is present and aware of that presence, in a state of BEING, your own BEING, part of you,

and that your personality is trying to make chocolate of how life works, what makes you and others tick the way they tock.

There's the gap, as I see it, that we're trying to bridge all the time, at least, when we've made that our purpose.

Imagine, for a moment, that knowing of that presence beyond words makes a difference in how we believe or not believe,
in what our mind tells us and in how we lose our lightness and brightness of inno-sense, in need of satisfying that same impatient
mind of ours, so in need of control when fear rules.

I've found a most beautiful creation of Mozart's Magic Flute opera, a movie by Ingmar Bergman in Sweden.
I've found so many symbolic meaning and keys to wisdom, in this work of Mozart.
This scene in that movie-opera is an example of (and hopefully making clearer) what I mean to say in this post.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG7DLcSc7PI

In how I experience disclosure now, on levels that I'm aware of, is that by being in control coming from fear,
the fear for that inno-sense, which involves vulnerability, coming from fear for being in affinity with myself in my own heart,
fear for believing in that BEING-NESSthat is to me all embracing, never excluding,
I begin to see the coldness of perfection, the ice of fixed views in need of a status quo, in control.
Mostly all conditions of life now, as I see it, are created based on that control, part of our human "Quest for truth"
our attempts in finding ways to make it work, this way... or that way.

The amount of learning from that determines our state of BEING and our DOING.
A genuine attempt is sufficient, for the BEINGS that we all are, individually.
I'm now sighing in relief, for having told this to myself also
It's never about a finished form, for life is ever changing in its expressions and vibrations

I can witness and see myself freezing the flow of life force energy and create exactly the opposite of what I long for.

Isn't that a dark Halloweenish humor?

P.S. I highly recommend Bob Deans "Cosmic Top Secret" video-presentation,
in one of shilo's latest posts, for Bob Deans' energy is close to BEINGNESS, as I perceive it.

B.B.Baghor wrote:

Yehudi Menuhin

"But above all, my Earth-Heaven is for me the acceptance by civilized man of those bonds

which make all life interdependent and which make of us conscious custodians of the future".

Heaven on Earth

Yehudi Menuhin’s manifesto, reprinted in full from the May/June 1970 issue of Resurgence magazine.

Besides being a musician of world renown, Yehudi Menuhin is deeply concerned with problems of philosophy, morals and religion,
both on the personal level and in terms of institutional structures. In this remarkable essay, which is concerned with the ecological
crisis that now confronts the human race, he brings to bear the fruits of many years of sensitive awareness and reflection on the
profounder issues of human destiny. Our sense of indebtedness in being permitted to present his material here is the greater for
knowing he has been a subscriber and supporter of Resurgence since its earliest issues.

Man today has created as vicious and vindictive a God as ever extorted the tribute of a superstitious people. The dragon we worship

enshrines the inanimate and consumes the animate: only the clank of metal survives the devastation of species and for all the human

courage and sacrifice spent, only the coins and the weapons dug up centuries from now may bear testimony to the madness of the

once-living. But need it be so? Can we not subjugate the inanimate and enshrine the living? Life on earth exists on a severely limited

budget. With each generation mankind has multiplied, but only in recorded times has he ceased enlarging his capital, life's organic

capital, and only very recently has he been approaching at accelerating pace the limits of this budget. Oxygen, sweet water, green

leaves and topsoil- these are but a few of the essential elements of life which have become exhaustible. Privately most of us know

the limits of our personal financial budgets and when we exceed these only the culprit and his dependents suffer.

Humanity, however, just like many an individual has not yet learned that its survival depends upon resources which until now have

been mostly free and apparently infinite. Money and weapons are merely measures of relative wealth and power between groups of

human beings, but they can never form the basis for the absolute balance-sheet which is that of all life, man included, with Nature.

God, the banker, does not deal in gold. His equity is Life's respect for Life, humanity's collective investment in the living and in the

organic. Our weapons and so many of our tools have been reduced to weapons against Nature, if not against man. However necessary

they may be for relative survival, they are ultimately an investment in the dead. Our exploitation of man, woman and child, our extermi-

nation of species, as of recognizably different fellow-men, is an investment in death. Money and weapons cause instant effect, but

can either grow a tree?

Our greatest efforts seem to serve to increase our dependence on that fire-breathing dragon with metal scales and a fissionable heart.

As our dependence increases, so does the volume of our propitiatory sacrifices: we have discovered not only how to sacrifice present

generations, but future ones as well. Now at least, and at last, we know this cannot go on for ever: it cannot even go on another fifty

years. Heaven will come to mankind when we learn to respect our limits. It sounds paradoxical that the infinity and eternity of Heaven

is in reality only the distance to the heart of a stranger, to the heart of your enemy and eternity is the instant of recognition.

To recognize truth is to win the trust of the innocent and the weaker.

God told man he was to be custodian of all life. Other animals, all kinds everywhere, were there for his pleasure. Pleasure is synonymous

with protection. Is this not the case with our wives, our husbands, our children, our dogs, our trees? Is not our pleasure synonymous

with their well-being, their security, independence and satisfaction? Why indeed is the conception "for our pleasure”; taken to mean "at

our mercy?" And if these objects that are essential to our pleasure, and indeed to our survival, are now largely at our mercy, must this

not imply the injunction of mercy and protection to all things at our mercy? As Shakespeare with his infinite sensitivity said: "The quality

of mercy is not strained, it droppeth as the gentle rain from Heaven upon the earth beneath . . . "

Our pleasure, everyone's pleasure, must be found henceforth in the non-competitive and the non-exploitative. In recent millennia the

human race has thrown up quite a few men who have seen the emerging truth of man's condition: "Turn the other cheek," "Do unto

others"-the latest being Gandhi's example of non-violence. Now we have reached the stage in man's evolution when we can no longer

afford to crucify, poison or shoot our wisest men, or even belatedly to canonize them: we are now at the very gates of Heaven or, if we

choose, of Hell. What is this Heaven on Earth? The stress should be first on individuals and secondarily on interests, because the former

are the heart and bloodstream of the latter.

Here are a few rough definitions.

1. Our technology would live within our budget. At no time would it be allowed to deplete capital resources and resources essential to

future generations of all life: nor would our technology be allowed to produce waste or poisonous matter not into the stream of life,

or prejudicial to the value of life.

2. Our technology would be made infinitely more refined and flexible. Power from the sun, tides, Earth-core, differences of temperature

would be delivered unobtrusively, discretely, noiselessly to the user. A technology encouraging to regional and individual diversity by its

infinite flexibility.

3. Organizational, administrative and bureaucratic structures offering a maximum of approaches and cross influences between governed

and governor, the greatest possible adaptability to individual needs; gifts, talents, difficulties, schools and classes, of all kinds geared to

every character and requirement.

4. The inculcation of a contemporary morality drawn from and built upon all religions, but relevant to our era, its discoveries, its

responsibilities, its maturity, its revelations.

5. The humble wisdom of admitting that everything is not for everybody, nor can humanity any longer do everything in its power.

A diversity of ambitions and a newly interpreted feudal structure (by feudal I mean not service given vertically to the baron above one,

but the fee that each and every human being should pay laterally to his fellow-man as part of his debt to life itself and which might cure

the crippling narcissism that commercialism and its Mephisto advertising has evoked in us all)–a structure in which money or power alone

would no longer remain the chief yardstick of achievement: a pride and a humility of function and a respect for anothers' function be he landowner or garbage-man-actually the garbage-man should represent the first stage to resurrection, for he is the retriever!–a working

faith and a trust in the slow and inevitable distillation of excellence, in the course of a lifetime, in the course of generations, provided it is achieved in ceaseless confrontation and through constant reassessment between ourselves, our fellow-men and our environment.

A new appreciation, a new cultivation of our senses and of our intuition, a respect and an honesty in dealing with life, beauty and truth.

I have used the word feudal deliberately to evoke a concept which still carries, and quite rightly so, many reprehensible connotations:

the wretched condition of serfs from Russia to Ireland, the exploitation not so much of conditions of the land as of the peasant-these

were the abuses which condemn feudalism. But what about words like capitalism in China, communism in Texas, or Christianity in certain

areas of the Middle East? Yet each one of these has contributed a very valuable ingredient or two to humanity's cumulative experience

and wisdom. In like manner and in the same way I would wish an enlightened Moslem to speak about Christianity, an enlightened capitalist

to analyze communism, and so on. The catch of course is that it would take a real Christian to do so and all who are Christian in name

only are from my point of view not really Christian. In the same way it is essential to break down blind and prejudiced reflexes against

different ways of life, different concepts of existence from which we too can retrieve and distil a valuable lesson and learn a few pointers.

Progress is neither inevitable nor continuous. Forgive me, therefore, if in line with my concept of a respect and curiosity owing every

human manifestation from witchcraft to polytheism-forgive me if I offend with a word, but not with my heart. Of feudalism, of communism

too, there is something to learn, something to conserve. The spirit of conservation must oft like the gold prospector sift a mountain of

pebbles and sand for one nugget of gold. There are quite a few manifestations of the human spirit that are totally bad, but even they

must be carefully studied to yield not inspiration, but warning of the way in which the partly bad or rotten can become wholly bad and

rotten. Nazi Germany was one such example: it became a deliberate effort to collect together all the worst elements of the German people-

it was wholly evil. It will always be to the glory of Great Britain that she was attacked, unprepared and without being directly provoked,

that she refused peace offers and stood by her Allies, even alone, and finally won the day. Certainly no Jew or American can ever do

enough for this country in return.

To return to our perception of our environment. Must we forever assault our senses or condemn them to their lowest uses? There is

no need for mankind forever to remain imprisoned within his mechanism of aggression and defense. The eye is better when trained

to observe through painting, architecture, sculpture, drawing, or through the eyepiece of a telescope or microscope, than it is in sighting through a rifle; the ear by music and lovely sounds, and so on for all our five senses-and from them the sixth, which is intuition.

THE CREATIVE ACT

We have so much to live for beyond the brute motivation of aggression and defense: these we gradually evolve through the generations

and within each lifetime, and finally transform into their opposite expression–the creative act, as of a painter, sculptor, composer, great

architect, or the creative vision of an inspired scientist. As a musician, I am accustomed to the submission and transfiguration of emotions, thoughts, motives and acts. Surely if the artist indulged in the reverse process of reverting to primal motives, he might be the criminal of

all time, but one easily caught, for by my very definition he would act out of his first impulse! And we would have no art. For it is the very

removal from and distance between primitive desires and sublimated realization which spells the quality of human expression.

Literature, which is merely a photographic record of acts, can never be great literature and certainly never be poetry. Knowledge and

beauty do not require quantitative material corroboration. Truth is true even if proven only once; moreover it will never be within the

bounds of reason for every man to tread the surface of the moon: he must be content to dream and write about it and express it in

his art. One of the most disturbing symptoms of the superstition of our day, to which I referred, that blind faith in a monstrous god

so antagonistic to man and his art- is our passion for anonymity. Our obsession and prostration' in front of the scientific abstract

induces a mania for reducing the name to the cipher.

We can see this in the complete and unnecessary removal of those convenient memory aids to our telephone numbers such as Whitehall

or Archway, which are in fact shorthand for three numbers and a human reminder of origin. This same obsession will substitute numbers

for names in the categories of restaurants, motorcars and so on. We are suffering from a sick obsession for numbered corpses:

"So many killed today". This sickness extends to a preference for an antiquated decimal system instead of introducing a logical duo-

decimal system. If only God had given us twelve fingers! We evince an emotional blockage and embarrassment, a certain intellectual

cowardice and laziness in the face of guineas and shillings.

A genuine innovation for the better is still highly suspect, but a change authorized by the venal high priests of our age-this is embraced

with meek dutifulness and trust. To call a child, we shall soon be saying "Hey, 427," just like with our car licence plates. At least with our

licences that practicability of combined alphabet and numerals has been recognized! We no longer will say "My mother, my child, my King

or Queen," but will cite a cyphered function which only the computer will react to. We may not even say "My God!", but simply "No. I,

Latitude 60, Longitude 65". That way lies madness and destruction.

One great characteristic of life is its aspiration towards uniqueness. As we rise in the consciousness of life, this hallmark becomes ever

more pronounced. Although no doubt every crystal snowflake is recognizably unique and so must every leaf be different, only man can

so savagely distort the concept of uniqueness as to equate it with the idea of being himself only–above and at the expense of all others. Uniqueness, which should be a doctrine of mutually respected variety, becomes in man the doctrine of tyranny. Man must pursue his

knowledge and understanding of nature and of himself not with the object of domination and the extension of power, but in a way in

which awe and humility in front of the mystery of life and nature grow in equal proportion to his knowledge.

Man must continue to worship nature. That short period of simple-minded and vainglorious consciousness in man's capacity to reconstruct nature is finally giving way to a conception of the magnitude to which we belong and the complexity which we are. Only in the last weeks

it has been revealed that the genetic code in a microscopic bacteria allows for 20 million variables or possibilities for each single individual:

in a human being these possibilities are of the order of 12 billion. To calculate the weather, the micro-climate of an area only 15 miles square,

the factors and variables are so complex that to cope with them would necessitate a computer extending from London to Moscow.

Such is the order of variety in the individual's and society's means of expression.

Our main concern is to allow this almost infinite range of free, automatic choice-genetic and otherwise–to remain undamaged, and to guide

the choice towards ideals of beauty and perfection. So far our deliberate efforts towards change have for the most part only reduced and damaged our potentialities, as for instance through radiation, and debased our ideals and multiplied our monsters. This is true not only figuratively, but literally, for they are born in greater numbers than ever before. I have always wished that in our age of comparative studies,

in addition to anthropology-which was one of the first, thanks to Darwin-and along with comparative religions, that comparative political

systems would be assessed for their qualities, defects, timeliness and achievements.

For my part I can conceive of many permutations and commutations, but the lucky societies will always be those which are blessed with a hereditary, constitutional monarch as Head of State. This political comment is absolutely in place. Its absence would have been an unpardo-

nable oversight, for we are discussing the conservation of the most evolved, beneficent, organic and civilizing manifestations of the human

spirit. Politically this manifestation is without doubt the distillation through generations of the crude tyrant into the living human symbol of

unity in diversity, of tolerance and respect, that is surely the hallmark of constitutional monarchy.

In past ages before man discovered the common denominators of science, in biology and finally in psychology, he viewed each phenomenon

as separate, assigning deities to each. With one God, however. He began to see relationships and to discover the broad lines of a basic structure. He also began to reduce and to gather into common likeness his fellow-men-into armies, into slaves, or for that matter into Christians. We are beginning to emerge from this crudeness and this brutal conception of "order" as we discover an infinity of degrees

between contrasting phenomena, degrees which as in an arc link the opposites.

DELIGHT IN VARIETY

Now, having achieved this, we must begin finally to cultivate, to respect, to delight in variety. We must formulate the philosophy and

the morality which sees every act of blind and automatic multiplication as, in degree, a gesture of death, whether it be the endless piling

of apartment blocks or the repetitive gestures of a factory worker. Discipline again is a different thing; for instance the discipline of choice,

of a craft, an art, a science, a scholastic field, in the preparation for adventure, or of a companion. But by and large man now–to achieve

his Heaven–must nurture, cherish, revel in every variety of life, every manifestation of colour, language, dress, gesture he can see, hear

or study. Man's great destiny is to bring the infinite variety of life into harmony, but decidedly not to reduce it to uniformity and false order.

Perhaps the most misused words at the moment are "progress" (which is a shoddy and transparent cloak for convenience) and "order";

but one must ask "progress where?" and "whose order?". These words still carry an echo of romantic interpretation, just as democracy, socialism and the much-regretted concept of freedom (freedom for what?) had until recently. Other words are used indiscriminately and prejudicially as well: words like "weeds" and "vermin" are used to condemn. We have seen that progress is not uniformly bad. Mice and guinea-pigs are used in medical experiments-often unnecessarily-because they are so close in many ways to human beings, and among

the weeds there are some very good and useful grasses.

Personally I cannot wait for the debunking of that inevitable "progress" which is supposed to happen as soon as we surrender our

prerogatives to the high priests of technocrazed greed and power. Nor for the debunking of the inevitable blessing of "order" at all costs:

that order which does not stand for a living, changing, balancing state as in that form of art, the mobile, but which is represented by the reduction of all differences, all variety to a common denominator, a common yardstick.

I would suggest a new crusade, a new slogan–one already discernible among the younger generation, perhaps not yet spelled out in its

full implication. "Create and conserve beauty. Destroy ugliness and replace it with beauty". Is it not fortunate that by divine coincidence

what we most desperately need is also beautiful? Sewage is neither beautiful nor healthful; oxygen is purest where green plants and

open space are at hand; pure water flows in bubbling streams where salmon thrive. Imagine were it the opposite! Imagine that oxygen

were only available in cylinders at the bottom of coal-pits and that we had to drink sewage for health! That this nightmarish myth has

all but become a reality in some urban industrial areas is a thought too uncomfortable to be taken seriously.

By ugliness I mean not only the obvious assaults upon our senses-visual, aural, our sense of smell, of taste; not only offences against

our innate, instinctive and intellectual sense of balance, proportion and reason, but equally the ugliness of human facial expressions

conditioned by pre-occupation with suppression, aggression, fear, hypocrisy, false values, moral superiority, cruelty, exploitation, greed;

so much of sickness and disease is a result either immediate or once-removed of these causes. We all known the precedents of thalilomide, cyclamates, and shortly to come of a thousand other death-dealing and sophisticated substances.

By beauty I mean the constant search and effort to create in all objects which we use, handle, in all activities, and foremost in ourselves

to create expressions of nobility and exaltation, as of humour and compassion, each different, as varied, personal and particular as possible. This cannot happen suddenly. Money, a freely exchangeable currency, will always be needed; it is in fact in many ways one of the blessings

of civilization, but as we cannot buy everything we covet, so too, by the same token, we cannot convert all things into money. Wars will still happen, engulfing millions of people in agony; plagues and famine too, but above it all and maintained by those peoples who may be spared

the ultimate in annihilation, above it all must be borne high the greatest obligation, the most binding duty of mankind: to redeem his fellow-

men from ugliness, and for his fellow-men to create a living, working, continuum of beauty in all spheres.

I believe that most people in Britain and all the Western countries–as North America and Western Europe-are becoming aware of the

issues which concern us. I would like to refer you to a wonderful article by Peter Laurie in one of the recent Supplements of the Sunday

Times. But it was even more heartening to read of the same concerns in a young people's journal in which many articles confirmed my

trust in our young generation, articles wherein they prove their preoccupation with these very problems, all related – the needs for beauty, justice and conservation. By conservation, I do not mean the conservation of everything intact-as of a corpse. I mean the conservation of everything beneficient and life maintaining which nature bequeathed man, and the conservation of every expression of man's need for beauty.

The Georgian squares of London are an example; the blue whale, the narwhal another; the few remaining oak forests a third! I also mean

the conservation of things, values and institutions which represent a very long, expensive and painful investment of experience. Today with

our instant explosive and brutal shock methods we threaten all and everything which has taken time, centuries and millennia to accumulate,

to achieve. So long as man belongs to the animal kingdom, so long as he is born of flesh and blood, so long as man and woman join in the creative act-so long is he bound to the realm of nature.

Regardless of how far his intellect may explore the word of inorganic matter, for his pleasures, his pains, his fulfillment and peace of mind,

he belongs to the pulsating life he shares with his frail and fragile co-breathers on this earth. Just like "progress" and "order," so too the ambiguity in the different interpretations of the word conservation. Our ear, so dominated by man-made change and by the new has lent

the word conservation a rather dusty connotation. It has lost the commanding concern of maintaining, of conserving a way of life–our way

of life, and implies a somewhat charitable, almost superfluous concern with a fossilized preservation in suspended states of alien matter.

It is hard to drive home that total concept of life on earth, that ecological unity which makes us all at least as dependent upon all life as we

are competitive with all life. When I speak of conservation, I have in mind the defense of humanity, of the living protoplasm which has

struggled with and triumphed over the vast mass of inorganic, molten, cooling matter. I speak of defending our global heritage, this life-

promoting environment which is our only defense against the timeless inanimate- the ageless dragon whom we worship, now clothed

in steel, plutonium and plastic which has risen to new powers to challenge all life anew, even as we assume we are about to dominate it.

LIVING, CHANGING TAPESTRY

Naturally, at the lowest level life is overwhelmingly competitive, but this is because each species fills only one segment of the ecological

structure of life; it is one thread in the pattern of a gigantic interwoven living and changing tapestry of which it is not aware. Here

stability and continuity are achieved by the automatic checks and balances of opposing forces, by their own individual inbuilt limitations

and restrictions, and by the fact that all destruction of life, i.e. death from all causes, only enriches and builds up the reserves of living

matter. Thus even our fuel is provided by coal, the material remains of living plant-life and oil, the material remains of living animal life.

Man, however, has raised himself by grafting himself on to bigger and bigger brains (now about to be done surgically) to a position from

where he can see a goodly part of that living tapestry, even while his native physical equipment has fallen: claws, fangs, fur, armour, even wings-these he has forsworn biologically but, in league with the inanimate demon he has achieved all of these and with a vengeance!

But the cruder defensive and aggressive means belong by right only to the fractionally alive, because as we reach the higher levels of life

and as we enjoy a broader view of our living tapestry, the competitive requirements of survival must give way to the collaborative

requirements of both society and survival.

As we begin to identify ourselves not only with the immediate in time and place-as does, say the ant-but with life generally and literally everywhere, we must by the same token depend for our survival upon the broad realm which we perceive and upon which we exercise

effect; upon which we therefore depend for survival and for which we are responsible. Remember, God told man that he was to be

custodian of all living matter, not its destroyer.

As a musician, I live with vibrations, a state which is neither animate nor inanimate, but is common to both. Vibrations are of all phenomena

the ones which allow us to touch, as it were, the most distant source, both in space and time. Because we are vibrating, pulsating beings,

we can sense and in fact relive the sensations, sentiments, impulses and thoughts of thousands of other musicians, and as musicians we

can communicate these to millions of people.

When I speak of conservation as a musician, it is not only in terms of wonderful illuminated manuscripts from the Middle Ages, but in

terms of their actual sound, the complex of vibrations they provoke in the human mind. My Heaven on Earth is not a museum or a static

state of unlikely bliss, but a situation fraught with problems and challenges, ones that would absorb tremendous amounts of courage,

curiosity, effort, patience, dedication and self-sacrifice.

CONSCIOUS CUSTODIANS

But above all, my Earth-Heaven is for me the acceptance by civilized man of those bonds which make all life interdependent and which make

of us conscious custodians of the future. After all, we already determine our future; we condemn it in fact when we say "apres moi le deluge:'

I am afraid that death, pain and disappointment are an intrinsic part of my Heaven, but suffering would, I hope, not be inflicted deliberately

by blind men and selfish men, blind and deaf to the consequences of their actions. Perhaps the greatest importance must be attached to the inculcation of a respect for continuity, a respect for all life, a sense of relative values, and a readiness to admit error. By relative values I mean, for instance, the multiplication of cars and roads without building a commensurate organisation for handling road accidents.

I mean the production of jet and internal combustion engines and nuclear bombs without any thought of the amount of pollution our living atmosphere can absorb. I mean the infliction of untold horror in the name of liberty, democracy, communism and socialism. l mean the multiplication of both the sick and their care without the measures necessary for preventive medicine. I mean the exploitation of life for its

lowest common denominator, for greed and power, as man did in the instances of slavery and child labor, and as we do now at the other extreme of consumer power, in which for the purpose of profit, the appetite is constantly irritated and whetted so that the

market can depend upon a continuously unsatisfied and restless people.

Each time we destroy irreversibly an organic element on our planet, we are cutting the ground from under our own feet; we are destroying

our own living tissues and those of our children and our children's children. We are destroying the helpless water and air, the helpless leaves,

the helpless blood cells and bone marrow of living flesh. The problem that faces us now is actually behind us and beside us too, that is to say

we have to think spherically, as it were, to see synoptically and to learn to live and judge at two levels: that of the visionary long-term one

and that of the day-to-day one.

Immediates are indissolubly linked to ultimates, the wind to the whirlwind; sow the one and you will reap the other, and with the frightening acceleration of our present age neither King nor Head of State can hope for the "deluge" to overtake his successor–the likelihood is that he

will be drowned in the instant after-effects of his own actions!

Will this shrinking of time-space evoke greater caution in the wrong sense? More conservative reaction in the negative sense? Or will we be

able to expand and extend our minds, become aware but not frightened of dangers, consider responsibilities the inevitable concomitant of

rights and find dignity in being an active part of a general community, instead of an isolated cog in a wheel that seems to turn to ever smaller and less worthy purpose? Do we know what we should conserve? Can we agree upon it? I think of the good burgher of Bath who recently

could only envisage a particularly beautiful sweep of lawn, not as had the 18th century architect to whom it was an intrinsic part of the design

of his terrace, but as "A criminal waste of building space"…

Must finance in its short-term aspect always dictate? For that it is short-term and eventually disastrous has been proven in this last decade

in America, where the structure of the cities of the 19th century mainly as huge market places has so alienated the human being that those

who cannot escape to the suburbs stay behind to be mugged (or if they are lucky to mug others).

Must fear of other men, of ourselves, forever determine our behavior? If the human creature could advance in goodwill, tolerance and self- abnegation at the same speed as has been the case with his scientific inventions: could he replace his lost faith in the institutional religions with a real sense of the stake each and every member of the human race has in the human condition, then we might see a recrudescence of the spirit of man and redress the sad imbalance visible to the young who search for values and find none, who have weighed us older generation in the balance and found us wanting.

Solomon said: "A wise man's heart discerneth both time and judgment." How far we still are from wise man! And yet our only hope for self-preservation is just the exercise of this, the ability to focus on the far-off while dealing with the everyday.

Yehudi Menuhin (1916–99) was one of the greatest classical violinists of the 20th century.

Source: www.resurgence.org
Yehudi Menuhin (in a picture with his violin about the same age as in the one above) was the first man I fell in love with, when I was 16
This musician could've played at presentations with Bob Dean, I can see them shake hands and exchange a huge smile. Bob Dean mentions
now and than, that one of his past lives happened to be in close company with "that young man of Galilei". And so I understand, why I can relate to the way he expresses himself. It's astonishing, how familiar it/he is to me, it never wears off due to a profound truth present in it.
It may look different to others, for truth is in the eyes of the beholder. Or in the ears, specially when you're a great musician.

orthodoxymoron wrote: Thank-you for posting this, B.B. I tend to think that Music dominated the Pre-Madness Earth -- but something went very, very wrong. I tend to think that Music will dominate the Post-Madness Earth. From a Minimalist-Traditionalist Ecumenical-Perspective -- I keep thinking in terms of Sacred Classical Music and Gothic Cathedral Architecture (plus little or nothing). I'm presently listening to one of my favorite recordings -- Hymns of Grace by the Choir of Men and Boys of Grace Episcopal Cathedral in San Francisco. My intentions are to silently study my two United States of the Solar System threads endlessly for the rest of my life -- without doing much (if anything) with them. There is a battle I must fight -- and I do not intend to drag others along with me. This Present Darkness will simply have to play-out (for better or worse? I know not). Namaste and Godspeed.

orthodoxymoron wrote:

That statement may have been made, by C.S. Lewis, with the best of intentions, but I see it also as a potential misinterpretation
of what God is supposed to expect from us, ordained by human beings in costumes of vicars and priests in purple robes. Brought
home to us through the megaphone of their church institute! Hallelujah, bow down in submission and accept suffering. Amen.
What a great way to give meaning to the crucifiction.. ehmm crucifixion of Jesus of Galilei. I do believe that pain is a signal, a voice
that tries to make itself heard, by the ears of awareness inside the body in pain, be it physical or spiritual. There's no judgment
involved in that, nor is punishment part of it, or guilt and shame. The dogma of suffering in "God offers strength equal to your cross"
as we say in Calvinistic Holland, is one of the most manipulative and dis-empowering tools that have been used, readily and by mistake.

By mis-interpretating and possibly deliberate suppression of the empowering effect of pain accepted as friend and messenger/teacher.
For your eyes only, none other can share in that privacy of heart and soul. It's supposed to be very private, though not in loneliness
endured. When it is God who sends us suffering, we're transformed into submissive devotees and we forget the powerful transforma-
tional knowledge present in nooks and crannies of our hearts, guts and big toes. To the convenience of any church institute with this
attitude. When, through time, it becomes an unconsciously practiced program, it's condemning itself into submission that way too.

And so, history repeats itself... if not a Mother Superior.. ehmmm, a minister's daughter stood up and spoke her truth
I've written a letter to the president of the United States, for once in my life. Following Dr. Steven Greer's recommendation
to jump into action, promoting steps towards disclosure. He has written to the president too, recently. I'll let you know when
I find a response to it. And also to mine!

B.B.Baghor wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-GC20KIRUY

Good to hear you've got an ear for truth in music, ortho. I'm sort of jokingly referring to the last line of my former post here. I can understand how you appreciate these 2 examples in your post and many others you've shared already here. That organ playing is almost a storm of notes, knocking me off my Afghan socks. I remember my childhood ears, while listening to the organ in church, twice on Sundays. At least that music was a welcome break in all the monotony of Biblical sermons without any true livelihood in it (this is the early '50's keep that in mind). That video with yoga, gongs, modern spirituality, in a Gothic San Francisco church, is beautiful, ortho! Are you used to join those excersizes, while leaning on the pews too? I've had a year or so, of piano lessons, played the piano at the teacher's home, the organ at home. A piano we couldn't afford. By my own choice, for I liked the piece, I played Largo by Handel often, at home, where we had an organ with foot-pedals and those knobs showing strange names, which had to be pulled or pushed, to change the sound and balance saturation of tones. The music video here is different, I hope you'll be able to appreciate it for your ears to hear and for the other parts too, as a gift.

orthodoxymoron wrote:Thank-you B.B. I've sadly realized that my spiritual-path is one I must walk alone. It's too complex and problematic for even small-groups. The problem is that in this world, this sort of thing is viewed as being a mental-illness. There is an established modus-operandi in the world, as we know it, which will change or stop for no one (probably not even for God). I think I've sort of figured things out -- and the aforementioned "playing-out" might have to occur in the coming months and years. BTW -- I'm not a "classical organ-music only" sort of person. I've simply chosen to highlight that "road less traveled" in my internet-posting. I actually prefer organ, orchestra, choir, and congregation (as an integrated-group) performing innovative hymn-arrangements. I once spoke with Lynne Davis -- following her organ-recital at Grace Cathedral -- regarding "Hymn-Improvisation". In that particular concert, Lynne performed the Toccata by Louis Vierne -- along with the Allegro movement from the Sixth Symphony of Charles Marie Widor. At the time, Lynne was an American, living in Paris. Notice how exquisitely she introduces and performs that Vierne Toccata at the end of the video, below!! That fine lady has CLASS!! That introduction reminded me of when Cherie Rhodes introduced Marie Claire Alain at a Master-Class I attended!! I think I've exhausted my attempted reforms (which have accomplished absolutely nothing) -- but I think that someday, someone will benefit from my exercise in futility (but not in my lifetime). That 2133 A.D. target (for a highly-refined United States of the Solar System) might be rather realistic.

B.B.Baghor wrote: Well, if you must walk alone, ortho, I'm very happy that you don't talk alone You seem to have valuable insight in the position you're in, which is exceptional, as I perceive it. Please never give up the quest for truth, when the answers seem to disappear out of sight.
When voiced, questions and answers, while still near, to me it sometimes helps to memorize better, or to see their relative truth, or value in the moment of need. Or feel the joy of sharing them, also while walking one's path alone. If the way to do it that way is found, I'm questioning myself now.

blue roller wrote: I am too busy to write continuously except in the evening when I am to tired to write much. I have deliveries coming in and contractors to deal with. Its just a bit mad right now.

I am going to kick back this weekend ( I say that but I rarely do ), try and recoup a bit . I am not putting much energy in to lucidity at the moment myself . Its all going in to project management and problem solving .

Your doing really well . Dont feel pressured . Its not a race to ascend or become some super guru . Its just about being and doing what makes you happy and stimulates you . Being at peace does not mean sitting on your butt surrounded by new age paraphernalia . To me its eating well , loving well and following your passion .

I am glad to know you Enjoyed watching Paul . I think its a very good film . It grounds ET in the real rather than all that ephemeral garbage. I am surrounded by them here and I can assure you they swear , spit, fart and love a dirty joke . Its not a fluffy love fest gift wrapped in new age mumbo jumbo . All that love and light sappy stuff .

What it is ,is a big multi species family of individuals who enjoy life and dont take themselves to seriously . Why bother when you have no reason to fear death ? You know that classic Worf statement "perhaps today is a good day to die" . That's no joke for my people . Going down in flames is considered ,well glorious. Crazy wonderful ,hey what the hell . If all they can do is Kill me ,they are doing me a favor.

blue roller wrote: Life is the best teacher , not me or any bozzo from wherever . My mentor used to play devils advocate to test me . See how I would react . He set me up with all sorts of events ,when I was ready . He did it very artfully and to good effect . Yes ,you could say I was a bit of a guinea pig but a voluntary one .That makes a big difference . Pride stifles the growth of wisdom. Never admitting you made a mistake, you just end up making the same ones over and over again .

I hope your enjoying this tete a tete as much as I am . Its much more engaging than being in a gaggle and competing for a slice of the conversation.''

Never liked parties much myself . I have always been one to enjoy devoted attention to a person who is both interesting ,fun to be with and shares similar or complementary values.

I treasure most the time and love and laughter I have shared with my GF's and wife . There is a charming epigram by the poet John Donne which resonates for me .

Thou callest me effeminate.
For I love women's Joy's.
I call thee not manly.
Though thou follow boys.

I am never happier than when I am in the arms of a woman I love . I love everything about them . Always have . I like them strong and free thinking. I like to see them Kick ass and take names. Only true love can capture the full beauty of a woman's smile . Or a mans for that matter.
Waking up next to a beautiful woman , Bliss. Making her laugh when she is ready to cry . Transforming grief in to wisdom with tender care .
How wonderful life is when you find love and nurture it. Why do people chase the facade when they can be themselves ? Love is permission to be not submission to me.

I told Robin Williams a funny story about myself once and he stole it . Its Ok , he would know I did not mind . He cleaned it up a bit when he used it in Good will Hunting though. Matt was in on it too I bet . Cheeky buggers.

Sometimes you have to spin a good yarn before you can weave a great dream.  Threads of love and experience . True gifts without strings attached .
Live on Pris .

Sanicle wrote:

blue roller wrote:

The important thing to have is mentoring so you know whats happening and dont get out of balance or misinterpret the material .
Ego inflation is one of the great dangers of first contact with other dimensions ,ESPECIALLY IF  someone infers you are now a 'god'.

I, personally, am getting so tired of that one.  Surely they can come up with something new!  It gets a bit old after a while and puts me off continuing to explore altogether sometimes.  Or the "I can teach you so much and give you so much power" trip.  

(Its' OK blue roller.  I'm not looking for comment from you.  I know 'the rules'.  Just couldn't help commenting on that one .......... and the following comment you made.)

blue roller wrote: It grounds ET in the real rather than all that ephemeral garbage. I am surrounded by them here and I can assure you they swear , spit, fart and love a dirty joke . Its not a fluffy love fest gift wrapped in new age mumbo jumbo . All that love and light sappy stuff .

How disappointing. Mainly the males of the various different species I hope?  Surely there's got to be a classy species out there SOMEwhere!  Again with the  

blue roller wrote: Body Functions . We all have them .We all need them. The body has to excrete .It has to sweat , it has to release gas .

So why do prudish spiritual types get so upset about it ? Burping ! Why is that disgusting ? A good healthy meal will do that for you ,deal with it.

Oh and dont express anger or frustration either . That's vulgar and uncouth . No joking ,no laughing ,no pranking ,no being silly or kicking back and having fun.

Actually whatever it is your thinking of doing that is not approved by 'god and his angelic host' the answer is no.

There is a good reason for this compensatory, fastidious prudery and moral grandstanding by the dictators of spirituality. They dont practice what they preach. They steal the moral high ground to cover their own hypocrisy and dirty laundry.

Civility does not mean propriety. It means freedom to express without impinging on others freedom. Propriety is the mockery of civility. It is a mask.

When it counts , the greys , the authentic original greys, are the most polite of species . Look at them ! Do they look like the kind of ET's that would kick sand in your face and try to start a fight ? But they do love having fun and we love the fact that they join in , in their own unique way. Its funny to watch them dance with us in the hangar bay parties but you know its not what they are best at . But can you imagine the scene Pris , hundreds of species jamming and kicking back in the same place and being totally fine with each other ? Its magic to see souls expressing themselves in such a vast variety of body types . Its a blast . Do I got hot under the collar when a feline humanoid wraps her tail around my thigh? You bet I do.

Everybody makes jokes about my people , including me. The point being we try not to take ourselves to seriously and put ourselves above others.
Its important to let out what needs to be released. Be it gas ,crap or anger. Stew on it and it will stew you. Let it go.

Ashtar Command ! Oh please . The love and light brigade . Car salesmen wearing fake tan lotion. Cringe.

If your not getting it ,its because your jealous your not getting it. No need for that . Let go of the guilt and shame and fear , rip a fat one at the cabal and ask for some fun in your life. You know you want it.

blue roller wrote:

Pris wrote:

blue roller wrote: Of course when you are part of an organization that prides itself on its ability to ridicule the strutting of power hungry idiots like Enki , you end up making films like Hot Shots. A total send up of all that stupid posturing egotism in Top Gun.

Taking yourself to seriously is asking for a take down . Oh yes , I have copped it many times believe me . Nobody gets to ego trip long before they are set up for a healthy dose of 'get real' .

You can play all sorts of fun tricks with technology . Beam someone up while they are reading the newspaper on the toilet ,(a favorite of the greys). walk someone in to a hologram for a prank hot date , with a 'babe' who turns out to be something else . That's another grey prank and they are very good at it.

They are also very good at precise time travel. They will take you in one time line in to another , and seamlessly put you back at the timeline you were in before . To the millisecond.

The toilet part -- that totally cracks me up!  Are greys like that with both men and women?... anyone they interact with?  Cheeky.

You know that old joke about talking to Ralph down the great white telephone ? Its kind of a jokey play on that . Its not just the Greys that loving pulling fun stunts . We all do it. The point is its never done to be cruel or demeaning . Its just having fun. If you can transcend fear with fun and laugh at yourself with good friends , what could be better and healthier ?

Only pompous egotists cant stand humor. They take themselves far to seriously for that . You know the types . "oh that's SOO Immature". Okay, go off and sulk with your toys, you misery guts.

Seashore wrote: On her blog Kerry has posted some photos that she got from an undisclosed contact (understandable) taken a couple days ago at John Edmonds' ranch :

http://projectcamelotportal.com/kerrys-blog/2697-ets-at-john-edmonds-place

"KA!!!"

Carol wrote:

The Nikola Tesla's Outstanding Interview Hidden For 116 Years

Nikola Tesla – Everything is the Light
by GEORGI STANKOV
Interview with Nikola Tesla from 1899

Once, in 1899, Nikola Tesla had an interview with a certain journalist John Smith, when Tesla said “Everything is the Light“. In one of its rays is the fate of nations, each nation has its own ray in that great light source, which we see as the Sun. In this interview this greatest inventor and seer of modern time unravels a new vision of humanity which we, the light warriors of the first and the last hour have created a century later. A must read for every Ascended Master from the PAT.

Part of this interview is dedicated to Tesla’s critics on Einstein’s theory of relativity that discards the ether as energy. I have proved in the new Theory of the Universal Law why Einstein’s theory of relativity is entirely wrong and why there is no vacuum (void), and that everything is energy. Thus I confirm Tesla’s ideas as expressed in this interview.

George, May 7, 2015

Journalist: Mr. Tesla, you have gained the glory of the man who got involved in the cosmic processes. Who are you, Mr. Tesla?

Tesla: It is a right question, Mr. Smith, and I will try to give you the right answer to it.

Journalist: Some say you’re from the country of Croatia, from the area called Lika, where together with the people are growing trees, rocks and starry sky. They say that your home village is named after the mountain flowers, and that the house, where you were born, is next to the forest and the church.

Tesla: Really, all it true. I’m proud of my Serbian origin and my Croatian homeland.

Journalist: Futurists say that the Twenty-and Twenty First Century was born in head of Nikola Tesla. They celebrate conversely magnetic field and sing hymns to Inductions engine. Their creator was called the hunter who caught the light in his net from the depths of the earth, and the warrior who captured fire from heaven. Father of alternating current will make the Physics and Chemistry dominate half the world. Industry will proclaim him as their supreme saint, a banker for the largest benefactors. In the laboratory of Nikola Tesla for the first time is broken atom.

There is created a weapon that causes the earthquake vibrations. There are discovered black cosmic rays. Five races will pray to him in the Temple of the future, because they had taught a great secret that Empedocles elements can be watered with the life forces from the ethers.

Tesla: Yes, these are some of my most important discoveries. I’m a defeated man. I have not accomplished the greatest thing I could.

Journalist: What is it, Mr. Tesla?

Tesla: I wanted to illuminate the whole earth. There is enough electricity to become a second sun. Light would appear around the equator, as a ring around Saturn.

Mankind is not ready for the great and good. In Colorado Springs I soaked the earth by electricity. Also we can water the other energies, such as positive mental energy. They are in the music of Bach or Mozart, or in the verses of great poets. In the Earth’s interior, there are energy of Joy, Peace and Love. Their expressions are a flower that grows from the Earth, the food we get out of her and everything that makes man’s homeland. I’ve spent years looking for the way that this energy could influence people. The beauty and the scent of roses can be used as a medicine and the sun rays as a food.

Life has an infinite number of forms, and the duty of scientists is to find them in every form of matter. Three things are essential in this. All that I do is a search for them. I know I will not find them, but I will not give up on them.

Journalist: What are these things?

Tesla: One issue is food. What a stellar or terrestrial energy to feed the hungry on Earth? With what wine watered all thirsty, so that they can cheer in their heart and understand that they are Gods?

Another thing is to destroy the power of evil and suffering in which man’s life passes! They sometimes occur as an epidemic in the depths of space. In this century, the disease had spread from Earth in the Universe.

The third thing is: Is there an excess Light in the Universe? I discovered a star that by all the astronomical and mathematical laws could disappear, and that nothing seems to be modified. This star is in this galaxy. Its light can occur in such density that fits into a sphere smaller than an apple, a heavier than our Solar System. Religions and philosophies teach that man can become the Christ, Buddha and Zoroaster. What I’m trying to prove is wilder, and almost unattainable. This is what to do in the Universe so every being is born as Christ, Buddha or Zoroaster.

I know that gravity is prone to everything you need to fly and my intention is not to make flying devices (aircraft or missiles), but teach individual to regain consciousness on his own wings … Further; I am trying to awake the energy contained in the air. There are the main sources of energy. What is considered as empty space is just a manifestation of matter that is not awakened.

No empty space on this planet, nor in the Universe.. In black holes, what astronomers talk about, are the most powerful sources of energy and life.

Journalist: On the window of your room in hotel “Valdorf-Astoria”, on the thirty-third floor, every morning, the birds arrive.

Tesla: A man must be sentimental towards the birds. This is because of their wings. Human had them once, the real and visible!

Journalist: You have not stopped flying since those distant days in Smiljan!

Tesla: I wanted to fly from the roof and I fell: Children’s calculations could be wrong. Remember, the youth wings have everything in life!

Journalist: Have you ever married? It is not known that you have affection for love or for a woman. Photos from the youth show you were handsome man.

Tesla: Yes. I did not. There are two views: a lot affection or not at all. The center serves to rejuvenate human race. Women for certain people nurtures and strengthen its vitality and spirit. Being single does the same to other people. I chose that second path.

Journalist: Your admirers are complaining that you attacking relativity. The strange is your assertion that the matter has no energy. Everything is imbued with energy, where it is?

Tesla: First was energy, then matter.

Journalist: Mr. Tesla, it’s like when you said that you were born by your father, and not on you.

Tesla: Exactly! What about the birth of the Universe? Matter is created from the original and eternal energy that we know as Light .It shone, and there have been appear star, the planets, man, and everything on the Earth and in the Universe. Matter is an expression of infinite forms of Light, because energy is older than it. There are four laws of Creation. The first is that the source of all the baffling, dark plot that the mind cannot conceive, or mathematics measure. In that plot fit the whole Universe.

The second law is spreading a darkness, which is the true nature of Light, from the inexplicable and it’s transformed into the Light. The third law is the necessity of the Light to become a matter of Light. The fourth law is: no beginning and no end; three previous laws always take place and the Creation is eternal.

Journalist: In the hostility to the theory of relativity you go so far, that you hold lectures against its Creator at your birthday parties..

Tesla: Remember, it is not curved space, but the human mind which cannot comprehend infinity and eternity! If relativity has been clearly understood by its Creator, he would gain immortality, even yet physically, if he is pleased.

I am part of a light, and it is the music. The Light fills my six senses: I see it, hear, feel, smell, touch and think. Thinking of it means my sixth sense. Particles of Light are written note. O bolt of lightning can be an entire sonata. A thousand balls of lightning is a concert.. For this concert

I have created a Ball Lightning, which can be heard on the icy peaks of the Himalayas. About Pythagoras and mathematics a scientist may not and must not infringe of these two. Numbers and equations are signs that mark the music of the spheres. If Einstein had heard these sounds, he would not create theories of relativity. These sounds are the messages to the mind that life has meaning, that the Universe exists in perfect harmony, and its beauty is the cause and effect of Creation. This music is the eternal cycle of stellar heavens.

The smallest star has completed composition and also, part of the celestial symphony. The man’s heartbeats are part of the symphony on the Earth. Newton learned that the secret is in geometric arrangement and motion of celestial bodies. He recognized that the supreme law of harmony exists in the Universe. The curved space is chaos, chaos is not music. Einstein is the messenger of the time of sound and fury.

Journalist: Mr. Tesla, do you hear that music?

Tesla: I hear it all the time. My spiritual ear is as big as the sky we see above us. My natural ear I increased by the radar. According to the Theory of Relativity, two parallel lines will meet in infinity. By that Einstein’s curved will straighten. Once created, the sound lasts forever. For a man it can vanish, but continues to exist in the silence that is man’s greatest power.

No, I have nothing against Mr. Einstein. He is a kind person and has done many good things, some of which will become part of the music. I will write to him and try to explain that the ether exists, and that its particles are what keep the Universe in harmony, and the life in eternity.

Journalist: Tell me, please, under what conditions Angel adopt on the Earth?

Tesla: I have ten of them. Keep good records vigilant.

Journalist: I will document all your words, Dear Mr. Tesla.

Tesla: The first requirement is a high awareness of its mission and work to be done. It must, if only dimly, exist in the early days. Let us not be falsely modest; Oak knows that it is oak tree, a bush beside him being a bush. When I was twelve, I have been sure I will get to Niagara Falls. For most of my discoveries I knew in my childhood that I will achieve them, although not entirely apparent … The second condition to adapt is determination. All that I might, I finished.

Journalist: What is the third condition of adjustment, Mr. Tesla?

Tesla: Guidance for all the vital and spiritual energies in labor. Therefore purification of the many effects and needs that man has. I therefore have not lost anything, but just gained.

So I enjoyed every day and night. Write down: Nikola Tesla was a happy man… The fourth requirement is to adjust the physical assembly with a work.

Journalist: What do you mean, Mr. Tesla?

Tesla: First, the maintenance of the assembly. Man’s body is a perfect machine. I know my circuit and what’s good for him. Food what nearly all people eat, to me it is harmful and dangerous. Sometimes I visualize that chefs in the world are all in conspiracy against me … Touch my hand.

Journalist: It was cold.

Tesla: Yes. Bloodstream can be controlled, and many processes in and around us. Why are you frightened young man?

Journalist: It’s a story that Mark Twain wrote a mysterious stranger, that wonderful book of Satan, inspired by you.

Tesla: The word “Lucifer” is more charming. Mr. Twain likes to joke. As a child I was healed once by reading his books. When we met here and told him about, he was so touched that he cried. We became friends and he often came to my lab. Once he requested to show him a machine that by vibration provokes a feeling of bliss. It was one of those inventions for entertainment, what I sometimes like to do.

I warned Mr. Twain as not to remain under these vibrations. He did not listen and stayed longer. It ended by being, like a rocket, holding pants, darted into a certain room. It was a diabolically funny, but I kept the seriousness.

But, to adjust the physical circuit, in addition to food, dream is very important . From a long and exhausting work, which required superhuman effort, after one hour of sleep I’d be fully recovered. I gained the ability to manage sleep, to fell asleep and wake up in the time which I have designated. If I do something what I do not understand, I force myself to think about it in my dream, and thus find a solution.

Tesla: The fifth condition of adjustment is memory. Perhaps in the most people, the brain is keeper of knowledge about the world and the knowledge gained through the life. My brain is engaged in more important things than remembering, it is picking what is required at a given moment. This is all around us. It should only be consumed. Everything that we once saw, hear, read and learn, accompanies us in the form of light particles. To me, these particles are obedient and faithful.

Goethe’s Faust, my favorite book, I learned by heart in German as a student, and now it can all recite. I held my inventions for years ‘in my head “, and only then I realized them.

Journalist: You often mentioned the power of visualization.

Tesla: I might have to thank to visualization for all that I invented. The events of my life and my inventions are real in front of my eyes, visible as each occurrence or the item. In my youth I was frightened of not knowing what it is, but later, I learned to use this power as an exceptional talent and gift. I nurtured it, and jealously guarded. I also made corrections by visualization on most of my inventions, and finish them that way, by visualization I mentally solve complex mathematical equations. For that gift I have, I will receive rank High Lama in Tibet.

My eyesight and hearing are perfect and, dare to say, stronger than other people. I hear the thunder of a hundred fifty miles away, and I see colors in the sky that others cannot see. This enlargement of vision and hearing, I had as a child. Later I consciously developed.

Journalist: In youth you have several times been seriously ill. Is it a disease and a requirement to adapt?

Tesla: Yes. It is often the result of a lack of exhaustion or vital force, but often the purification of mind and body from the toxins that have accumulated. It is necessary that a man suffers from time to time. The source of most disease is in the spirit. Therefore the spirit and can cure most diseases. As a student I got sick of cholera which raged in the region of Lika. I was cured because my father finally allowed me to study technology, which was my life. Illusion for me was not a disease, but the mind’s ability to penetrate beyond the three dimensions of the earth.

I had them all my life, and I have received them as all other phenomena around us. Once, in childhood, I was walking along the river with Uncle and said: “From the water will appear the trout, I’ll throw a stone and it is cut.” That’s what happened. Frightened and amazed, his uncle cried: “Bade retro Satan’s!” He was an educated and he spoke in Latin …

I was in Paris when I saw my mother’s death. In the sky, full of light and music floated are wonderful creatures. One of them had a mother’s character, who was looking at me with infinite love. As the vision disappeared, I knew that my mother died.

Journalist: What is the seventh adjustment, Mr. Tesla?

Tesla: The knowledge of how the mental and vital energy transform into what we want, and achieve control over all feelings. Hindus call it Kundalini Yoga. This knowledge can be learned, for what they need many years or is acquired by birth. The most of them I acquired by birth. They are in the closest connection with a sexual energy that is after the most widespread in the Universe. The woman is the biggest thief of that energy, and thus the spiritual power.

I’ve always knew that and was alerted. Of myself I created what I wanted: a thoughtful and spiritual machine.

Journalist: A ninth adjustment, Mr. Tesla?

Tesla: Do everything that any day, any moment, if possible, not to forget who we are and why we are on Earth. Extraordinary people who are struggling with illness, privation, or the society which hurts them with its stupidity, misunderstanding, persecution and other problems which the country is full of a swamps with insects, leaves behind unclaimed until the end of the work. There are many fallen angels on Earth.

Journalist: What is the tenth adaptation?

Tesla: It is most important. Write that Mr. Tesla played. He played the whole of his life and enjoyed it.

Journalist: Mr. Tesla! Whether it relates to your findings and your work? Is this a game?

Tesla: Yes, dear boy. I have so loved to play with electricity! I always cringe when I hear about the one also the Greek who stole fire. A terrible story about studding, and eagles peck at his liver. Did Zeus did not have enough lightning and thunder, and was damaged for one fervor? There is some misunderstanding…

Lightning are the most beautiful toys that can be found. Do not forget that in your text stand out: Nikola Tesla was the first man who discovered lightning.

Journalist: Mr. Tesla, you’re just talking about angels and their adaptation to the Earth.

Tesla: Am I? This is the same. You could write this: he dared to take upon himself the prerogatives of Indri, Zeus and Peron. Imagine one of these gods in a black evening suit, with the bowler hat and wearing white cotton gloves prepares lightning, fires and earthquakes to the New York City elite!

Journalist: Readers love the humor of our paper. But you confuse me stating that your findings, which have immense benefits for the people, representing the game. Many will frown on it.

Tesla: Dear Mr. Smith, the trouble is that people are too serious. If they were not, they would be happier and much longer would have lived. Chinese proverb says that the seriousness reduces life. Visiting the inn Tai Pe guessed that he visits the Imperial Palace. But that the newspaper readers would not have frowned, let’s get back to things which they consider important.

Journalist: They would love to hear what your philosophy is.

Tesla: Life is a rhythm that must be comprehended. I feel the rhythm and direct on it and pamper in it. It was very grateful and gave me the knowledge I have. Everything that lives is related to a deep and wonderful relationship: man and the stars, amoebas’ and the sun, the heart and the circulation of an infinite number of worlds. These ties are unbreakable, but they can be tame and to propitiate and begin to create new and different relationships in the world, and that does not violate the old.

Knowledge comes from space; our vision is its most perfect set. We have two eyes: the earthly and spiritual. It is recommended that it become one eye. Universe is alive in all its manifestations, like a thinking animal.

Stone is a thinking and sentient being, such as plant, beast and a man. A star that shines asked to look at, and if we are not a sizeable self-absorbed we would understand its language and message. His breathing, his eyes and ears of the man must comply with breathing, eyes and ears of the Universe.

Journalist: As you say this, it seems to me like I hear Buddhist texts, words or Taoist Parazulzusa.

Tesla: That’s right! This means that there is general knowledge and truth that man has always possessed. In my feeling and experience, the Universe has only one substance and one supreme energy with an infinite number of manifestations of life. The best thing is that the discovery of a secret nature, reveals the other.

One cannot hide, there are around us, but we are blind and deaf to them. If we emotionally tie ourselves to them, they come to us themselves. There are a lot of apples, but one Newton. He asked for just one apple that fell in front of him.

Journalist: A question that might be set at the beginning of this conversation. What was Electricity for you, Dear Mr. Tesla?

Tesla: Everything is Electricity. First was the light, endless source from which points out material and distribute it in all forms that represent the Universe and the Earth with all its aspects of life. Black is the true face of Light, only we do not see this. It is remarkable grace to man and other creatures. One of its particles possesses light, thermal, nuclear, radiation, chemical, mechanical and an unidentified energy.

It has the power to run the Earth with its orbit. It is true Archimedean lever.

Journalist: Mr. Tesla, you’re too biased towards electricity.

Tesla: Electricity I am. Or, if you wish, I am the electricity in the human form. You are Electricity; too Mr. Smith, but you do not realize it.

Journalist: Is it thus your ability to allow fails of electricity of one million volts trough your body?

Tesla: Imagine a gardener who is attacked by herbs. This would indeed be crazy. Man’s body and brain are made from a large amount energy; in me there is the majority of electricity. The energy that is different in everyone is what makes the human “I” or “soul”. For other creatures to their essence, “soul” of the plant is the “soul” of minerals and animals.

Brain function and death is manifested in light. My eyes in youth were black, now blue, and as time goes on and strain the brain gets stronger, they are closer to white. White is the color of heaven. Through my window one morning, landed a white dove, which I fed. She wanted to bring me a word that she was dying. From her eyes the light jets were coming out. Never in the eyes of any creature had I not seen so much light, as in that pigeon.

Journalist: Personnel in your lab speak about flashes of light, flames and lightning that occur if you are angry or into kind of risk.

Tesla: It is the psychic discharge or a warning to be alert. The light was always on my side. Do you know how I discovered the rotating magnetic field and induction motor, which made me became famous when I was twenty-six? One summer evening in Budapest, I watched with my friend Sigetijem sunset.

Thousands of fire was turning around in thousands of flaming colors. I remembered Faust and recited his verses and then, as in a fog, I saw spinning magnetic field, and induction motor. I saw them in the sun!

Journalist: Hotel service telling that at the time of lightning you isolate into the room and talk to yourselves.

Tesla: I talk with lightning and thunder.

Journalist: With them? What language, Mr.Tesla?

Tesla: Mostly my native language. It has the words and sounds, especially in poetry, what is suitable for it.

Journalist: Readers of our magazine would be very grateful if you would interpret that.

Tesla: The sound does not exist only in the thunder and lightning, but, in transformation into the brightness and color. A color can be heard. Language is of the words, which means that it is from the sounds and colors. Every thunder and lightning are different and have their names. I call some of them by the names of those who were close in my life, or by those whom I admire.

In the sky brightness and thunder live my mother, sister, brother Daniel, a poet Jovan Jovanovic Zmaj and other persons of Serbian history. Names such AsIsaiah, Ezekiel, Leonardo, Beethoven, Goya, Faraday, Pushkin and all burning fires mark shoals and tangles of lightning and thunder, which does not stop all night bringing to the Earth precious rain and burning trees or villages.

There is lightning and thunder, and they are the brightest and most powerful, that will not vanish. They are coming back and I recognize them among the thousands.

Journalist: For you, science or poetry is the same?

Tesla: These are the two eyes of one person. William Blake was taught that the Universe was born from the imagination, that it maintains and it will exist as long as there is a last man on the Earth. With it was a wheel to which astronomers can collect the stars of all galaxies. It is the creative energy identical to the light energy.

Journalist: Imagination is more real to you than life itself?

Tesla: It gives birth to the life. I have fed by my taught; I’ve learned to control emotions, dreams and visions. I have always cherished, as I nurtured my enthusiasm. All my long life I spent in ecstasy. That was the source of my happiness. It helped me during all these years to bear with work, which was enough for the five lives. The best is to work at night, because the stellar light, and close bond.

Journalist: You said that I am, like every being, the Light. This flatter me, but I confess, I do not quite understand.

Tesla: Why would you need to understand, Mr. Smith? Suffice it to believe it. Everything is light. In one its ray is the fate of nations, each nation has its own ray in what great light source we see as the sun. And remember: no one who was there did not die. They transformed into the light, and as such exist still. The secret lies in the fact that the light particles restore their original state.

Journalist: This is the resurrection!

Tesla: I prefer to call it: return to a previous energy. Christ and several others knew the secret. I am searching how to preserve human energy. It is forms of Light, sometimes straight like heavenly light. I have not looked for it for my own sake, but for the good of all. I believe that my discoveries make people’s lives easier and more bearable, and channel them to spirituality and morality.

Journalist: Do you think that time can be abolished?

Tesla: Not quite, because the first feature of the energy is that it transforms. It is in perpetual transformation, as clouds of Taoists. But it is possible to leverage the fact that a man preserves consciousness after the earthly life. In every corner of the universe exist energy of life; one of them is immortality, whose origin is outside of man, waiting for him.

The universe is spiritual; we are only half that way. The Universe is more moral than us, because we do not know his nature and how to harmonize our lives with it. I am not scientist, science is perhaps the most convenient way to find the answer to the question that always haunt me, and which my days and nights turned into fire.

Journalist: What’s the matter?

Tesla: How are your eyes brightened!… What I wanted to know is: what happens to a falling star as the sun goes out? Stars fall like dust or seed in this or in other worlds, and the sun be scattered in our minds, in the lives of many beings, what will be reborn as a new light, or cosmic wind scattered in infinity.

I understand that this is necessary included in the structure of the Universe. The thing is, though, is that one of these stars and one of these suns, even the smallest, preserves.

Journalist: But, Mr. Tesla, you realize that this is necessary and is included in the constitution of the world!

Tesla: When a man becomes concuss; that his highest goal must be to run for a shooting star, and tries to capture it; shall understand that his life was given to him because of this and will be saved. Stars will eventually be capable to catch!

Journalist: And what will happen then?

Tesla: The creator will laugh and say: ”It fall only that you chase her and grab her.”

Journalist: Isn’t all of this contrary to the cosmic pain, which so often you mention in your writings? And what is it cosmic pain?

Tesla: No, because we are on Earth … It is an illness whose existence the vast majority of people are not aware of. Hence, many other illnesses, suffering, evil, misery, wars and everything else what makes human life an absurd and horrible condition. This disease cannot be completely cured, but awareness shall make it less complicated and hazardous. Whenever one of my close and dear people were hurt, I felt physical pain. This is because our bodies are made as of similar material, and our soul related with unbreakable strands. Incomprehensible sadness that overwhelmed us at times means that somewhere, on the other side on this planet, a child or generous man died.

The entire Universe is in certain periods sick of itself, and of us. Disappearance of a star and the appearance of comets affect us more than we can imagine. Relationships among the creatures on the Earth are even stronger, because of our feelings and thoughts the flower will scent even more beautiful or will fall in silence.

These truths we must learn in order to be healed. Remedy is in our hearts and evenly, in the heart of the animals that we call the Universe.

Read also Nicola Tesla’s second interview from 1915 here in original:

http://www.teslauniverse.com/sites/default/files/article_files/19150600-01.pdf

blue roller wrote:Pris. the true essence of you has always been right there . Lying next to you , waiting for you to give it a chance to lift you up .

The programming of the beast is designed to separate you from your self. The golden fleece is all the knowledge and experience your soul has stored over countless life times. They take what is yours .

That's why that con merchant Jesus talks about his flock ! He is not a Savior , he is just another hustler . You don't want or need some f***er shepherding you . To hell with shepherds.

Bring the children unto me so I can fleece them as early as possible , before they get a chance to embrace freedom and free will.

Jesus Was a Nazarene right ? Nazi. Yeah , its a con. Right under your very nose. Jesus was designed by the Sanhedrin as a divide and conquer poster boy. That's all he ever was . Jesus saves ! Yes his bank is loaded from the ill gotten shearing of his flock.

The Jews laugh because they know Jesus is their tool , their card board cut out hero, to pacify ,molify and misdirect the goyim. They worship Jehovah , the dark lord , Enki , Enlil (same person) whatever name he uses on the day.

All religions serve the same 'god'. Mason , Jew , christian ,Catholic , mormon , you name it .

blue roller wrote:You know though, the funniest thing about the Cabal and their lame ass Dark Lord ? They actually believe their own BS . Go figure.

First rule of sales . Believe in the product or you wont be able to sell it.

But wait , there's more . Because if you act now for a limited time only we can save your soul while your jealous neighbors rot in hell for all eternity and I will throw in these FREE steak Knives so you can feast on their flesh Folks. Yes ,that's right . Our operators are standing by for YOUR call.

Don't delay ,act today while stocks last .

Its funny because its true.

blue roller wrote:

Pris wrote:

blue roller wrote:Project everyone ! Just spent a bit of time checking it out . Yes I reckon its a crock too . And it burns me to see celebs backing it .

But you know, its like this . Agenda 21 tanked so they have re badged it with concessions to try and make the sale. Me ? I say truth bomb their crappy feel good BS agenda .

I did some major truth bombing on a particular celebrity who sold out big time when his doco hit you tube. I love ripping sell outs in the comments section.

I am utterly disgusted with Jamie Oliver for backing this brown paper bag full of burning turd burger. I am equally disgusted with Leonardo di Caprio for his punt . Grow a pair ,the both of you .

As always its pitched to sound reasonable, fair and feel good . But the reality is its just another nuttella Sandwich full of brown paste in a sesame seed bun of Macdronealds super sized disorder. Fetch the bucket dear , I think i am bout to barf this one all over Angelina Jolie's designer schlock frock.

Discernment Pris. Exercise it every chance you get .

In order to make an informed decision you have to get informed . To verify you reach out with your feelings. Feel the soul behind the mask and prepackaged script . Is that celeb really a true believer or is he/she going through the motions ? Its very hard to fake sincerity and pull it off.

Reaching out with my feelings... I have to say I've often sensed something wrong about someone and chose to ignore my 'little voice'.  There's an idiotic part of me that sometimes takes over telling me not to jump to conclusions.  We, especially the ladies, are taught/brainwashed that it's not nice to be 'rude' -- even when we feel our lives may be at risk.  How f***** is that?

Good point. 'Lady like behavior' ( read total submission) just makes it easier for you to agree to submitting to humiliation that is very far from civilized.

That's another issue dealt with in PAUL. Ruth is heavily indoctrinated with that christian fundamentalist crap. She cant swear , she cant laugh , she has NO freedom at all. Great Film.

Hey Jesus , yes you . Go f**k yourself. There , I said it and it felt GOOOOOOD.

Pris wrote: This is so great.  I love this stuff.

I may have this wrong, I think I heard this from Robert Morning Sky that 'Jesus' originally was a group of rebellious, anarchistic people that turned against Enki.  It would be just like 'the bad guys' to take something wonderful and mess it up completely for their own agenda.

Pris wrote: Everyone, Maurice definitely isn't afraid to express himself.  Even if you don't agree with him, you have to respect that.  I'm rethinking this whole 'Jesus' thing because of it.  And, I think that's fantastic.  I'm constantly amazed to discover how many (limiting) things (beliefs) I just 'accept' without question.

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blue roller wrote: I know your probably thinking Captain America ! your kidding me Maurice. That's just a huge Hollywood wankfest action flic !

Ordinarily I might agree with you. But actually , the Winter Soldier does have precedence in fact .

So then you will say, 'Okay Maurice but surely those stunts are exaggerated for effect ?'

Nope. If anything they have been taken down a notch.

Modulated electro gravitic fields allow you to do crazy stuff that would kill a regular flesh and blood body . Shield is called shield for that reason. Electromagnetic shielding is very powerful stuff and makes a man bullet proof . He can bounce where others crush and break . Enki is trying to rebuild an army of super warriors using this knowledge. But to do so he has to hack the mother programming in the DNA . He is training people as we speak in Washington State . He even calls it his army . Quite open about it.

Captain America's Dilemma with his best friend being turned by Hydra is the same Dilemma as mine . I'm not capt America though. This dilemma of hijacked souls is massive , not isolated to a few people. This whole planet and its people have been hijacked by the cabal .

Its in Lord of the Rings .The orc's are Elves who were captured by the dark lord and twisted to evil. Same thing. Yes , it is heart breaking.

So watch Winter Soldier with that in mind . He is VR.  It only takes a few good souls to take down the biggest monsters.

Okay, I put Captain America and Winter Soldier on the 'list'.

Yes, when I first found out that the orcs were originally elves, 'tortured and mutilated', the feeling of grief was incomparable.  At first, you think it's 'impossible'... because the truth is so unfathomably horrible...

It reminds me of Luke finding out for the first time that Vader is his father.

Pris wrote:

blue roller wrote:

Pris wrote:

blue roller wrote: I know your probably thinking Captain America ! your kidding me Maurice. That's just a huge Hollywood wankfest action flic !

Ordinarily I might agree with you. But actually , the Winter Soldier does have precedence in fact .

So then you will say, 'Okay Maurice but surely those stunts are exaggerated for effect ?'

Nope. If anything they have been taken down a notch.

Pris wrote:Okay, I put Captain America and Winter Soldier on the 'list'.

Oh, hang on, I thought Winter Soldier was another movie.  There's two Captain Americas, are both worth watching or just the second one?

Watch them both but Winter Soldier will surprise you . It nails the new world order , the cabal , the tech , the abuses . Good film.

Kingsman , you gotta watch that .

Pink Floyd's the wall album says it all. Exposes the education system for what it is .Humiliation and brain washing . I mean , just look how much your average American High school f***s kids up. My god !
Brutal. Cruel . Demeaning.

Every time I read some new age tosh about 'earth being a school' I just want to barf hot chunks of undigested carrot and stale beer over their shirt front. I'm not here to get slapped down , bullied and brain washed by your religious BS or fluffy new age , Evergreen (CIA ) College sponsored green wash . Its no accident that the 'School of Enlightenment' is just down the road from Evergreen and Fort Lewis for chrissakes !

You want to get your dope stroke from the horned one , just keep on shelling out for a hot fresh slab of recycled fluff bunny ,'age defying', plastic surgery Enhanced, channeled Subway sh** sandwich.

Yeah , you know who I am talking about. Surf the channels all you want people but they are never going to give you your eyesight back without putting the blinkers on first.

Sorry Pris . Just having a Direct poke at the new age pope.

Normal service will resume after a short word from their sponsors.

No need to apologize to me.  I think it's all crappola, too.  Awhile back, someone started 'following' me on Twitter (worth mentioning because almost nobody follows me there ), calling themselves 'Council of Enlightened'...  I thought that sounded pretty pompous, self-aggrandized.  Checked out their website... symbolism and all... made the hair stand up on my neck...  course I ignored them.

Pris wrote:

blue roller wrote:

Pris wrote:

blue roller wrote: Now I want you to go back and watch avatar yet again and tell me how much more significant the script is now .

That's your homework assignment .

Yeah , your getting it Missy. Big time . High Five .

You betcha I'm going to watch it.  Now.  Earlier we finally finished watching all the behind the scenes stuff and I'm so stoked to watch it tonight and was actually planning on it!  So forgive me if I tie up early tonight!

Oh that's right !Just leave me hanging here while you snuggle up with lover boy in front of your big screen TV . Where is the gratitude ?

What have the Canadians ever done for us ? Apart from maple syrup ,Mounties and lumberjacks ?

Just the hottest chicks north of Everywhere, that's what.

No its okay . Im Fine . No, you do what you have to do. I'll just wait till tomorrow. Maybe go for a long walk to the pub and smash my head in with a Canadian Club or three, or four .

Who knows ,I may meet an off duty honeypot from the NSA and spill my guts as long as her company credit card holds out for the night.

Just trying to guilt me, eh?!  Yah Bum!  Nope, my lover boy is already off to bed.  It's just me watching it alone.  But, I'm good.  I can give it my undivided attention.

luv you bunches, Maurice!

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Pris wrote:

blue roller wrote:

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blue roller wrote: Far out is right .Way far out beyond their control far out is how far out that far out is . That's like far out to the max infinity plus with extra secret sauce to go . You can super size that order .

Oh for christ's sake who taught you to fly that thing ? It wasn't me . Only pleidians fly those crappy old discs . That is SOOOO last millenium .
I can make a hub cap fly better than a pleidian beam ship . Groan Home ET. I would rather drive a Pacer interstate than be seen in one of those.

'So exactly how does that thing hover ?'

'We don't know,we got it second hand from Honest Johns used UFO lot in Roswell .'

"Gov surplus ?'

"They wouldn't say."

LOL!!

Is this better?

What the hell is that ? It looks like a Christmas tree shat an automatic vacuum cleaner with a reversing light. That's it , i'm outta here until those gif guys come up with something serious. My cat could come up with something better than that .

blue roller wrote: Let me give you a classic Example of Enki's cunning and duplicity.

The Sun . Comes up every day ,goes down every night . So far so good . But not good enough for Enki.

So Enki says , 'Lo and behold , I am the sun ,giver and taker of life ,and you shall worship me.'

So all those silly cabalists now associate the sun with their lord and master.

If the sun is rising , you are in his favour . If it is setting , you have incurred his disfavor and will die a slow horrible death for refusing to acknowledge and bow down before him !

Such bullshit right ? But it works on so many people. Because it is imprinted through fear to associate the sun rising with him as your omnipotent 'god'.
That's why you get so much sun symbolism being used by the illuminists. Sneaky bastards.

He takes something beautiful and twists it in to a fear based symbol of domination. Outrageous.

Enki is not the Sun and neither is his only begotten sun, Marduk (jesus) .Marmalade Marmaduke is a total tool. The orange hybrid , house of orange ,Dutch  royal Family , bunch of sleaze bags . Why are the Dutch so notoriously greedy and money centered ? Because they get their lead from the banking house of Orange. Direct descendants of marduk . Not saying all Dutch People are like that but sadly ,realistically , it is the prevailing culture. Same in Switzerland.

So I don't go in much for national identity. Its a con and a religion that gets people to fight over borders for profit.

Having been so Maligned I would Imagine the Sun is pretty pissed with Enki right now .

"Oh God!!"

I Still Think This Might've Been a Cool Meeting-Place for a United States of the Solar System!!

bobhardee wrote:

11/3/2015
Are you a Starseed?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MMadGIbMJs

orthodoxymoron wrote:Thank-you for starting this thread, Bob. I started this website in 2008 http://www.krlll.com/index.html and I've done virtually nothing with it. Hardly anyone has responded -- but my opening page hints at a Pleiadian Starseed Background. I just made it up -- but what if at least some of it is true?? At least one Individual of Interest has hinted that I'm not from around here -- which might explain why my life has not gone well. I've been told that I have "Friends in High Places" and that they "Like Me On Phobos". I have no idea -- but I can't take much more of this. BTW -- I've been told that the Jesuits don't like me. That's probably a bad-thing -- especially if they really do run everything on Earth (and possibly beyond). The Bad@$$es shall inherit the Earth?? Seems that way -- doesn't it?? What Would Jupiter Jones Say??

B.B.Baghor wrote:

Thank you bobhardee   and ortho  for re-animating this subject of our origin. I imagine that studying the past,


to learn, includes this subject too. For many years I've focused on my presence on planet Earth, I simply had to and even more,


my presence in a physical body I seldom use these little green creatures, but they're funny and meaningful here, for me,


while having felt often, like an alien present in my life on planet Earth, that I looked at life in different ways and deeper too,


compared to most people around me. In short: It was about "Where do I fit in?"


In the background there are life-stories in former existences and my choice to return on planet Earth and sort out some trunks


I've stored here. Part of feeling like a wanderer is my being highly sensitive to energies. Now that I'm becoming conscious of it,


I turn a weakness into a strength, learning how to use it as a skill and not having to live with the onslaught of it, like a cat in a


whirlpool, swept along into its depth. The more we understand the alien within, the more at ease we become with those aliens

"out there" I believe.


Now that we've potentially easier access penetrating through the veil, entering the Akashic records and who knows certain info

that is triggered by listening to trailblazer-whistleblowers like Bob Dean, Simon Parkes and Dr. Steven Greer, it may be that it's


meaningful now, to delve into our soul-origin. Synchronistically I recently posted an article by Doreen Virtue:

Excerpted from Realms of the Earth Angels

"People have come from all over the universe to live upon earth. In my private psychic counseling practice,
I've been able to get to know many people whose origins are not of this earth. I've learned that there are
many incarnated extraterrestrials (ET's), angels, and walk-ins upon the planet right now.

The first time I worked with an incarnated ET—what I call a "star person," I was startled. She defied all of
my stereotypes about extraterrestrials. She looked a lot like an ordinary person (although there are some
subtle, but key physical distinctions among star people, that I've listed below). Yet, until I psychically
discerned that she was working with a spacecraft, I had no clue that she wasn't from the earth".


Here's the link to that post of mine:

http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t8496-discerning-your-origin-by-doreen-virtue?highlight=Doreen+Virtue#117067